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I'm OBSESSED with Rio's meta exit by cutting through the set. They're actors working on a sound stage similar to the Wizard of Oz, filming a fantastical TV show about a magical boy who LOVES movies and inspires their reality to be like the Wizard of Oz sound stage. Adding the fact that Aubrey Plaza is primarily known to be a darkly comedic actor, having her literally cut THROUGH the sound stage was so perfectly absurd. Honestly, whoever cast Plaza as death is a genius, give them a raise
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever. And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
Damm Marvel ...... props ...this was Glorious ...Charlie called it with The Hex..... Just Waiting for Agatha to offer her nanny services to The Fantástic Four...
I think Agatha’s reason for killing so many witches comes down to distracting Death. Nicholas was supposed to be stillborn and Agatha was unsure when she would return, so she started killing as many witches as possible to keep Death occupied with taking them to the afterlife. I think when Nicky says “we can kill more witches tomorrow,” he’s saying that because she’s prolonging his time as much as possible by adding to the death toll Death needs to manage. The day Nicky didn’t carry out their daily routine, Death caught up. I think this is reinforced by Death saying she was distracted from claiming Billy by Agatha via the death of Alice, Lilia, and Sharon.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever. And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
I think further than your Theory, Agatha' journey of the road actually started much like Alice's mother adapted it; A protection spell for Scratch that attracts victims AND offers protection when people elsewhere sing it.
@@orangejuice27 That's fine, she was still getting power from them that's what she gained from it. It's fair to assume all her killing is what drew Death to her romantically until that eventually backfired due to her son being one of the victims. Yet, because of their previous relationship, she could be aware of Rio's process of leading people to the afterlife and more strategically killed to give herself time since there was no concrete timeline for how long Scratch would live. Just playing the theory game, no need to be boring
Not exactly. Billy's hex never messed with people's minds like Wanda's did. He probably could have, but it speaks to a difference between the characters that it didn't.
@@darrekworkman5595 i understand...but if you look at Billy's hex...it created a reality all the witches except Agatha thought was a real place...so in effect he did mess with their minds...he just didn't control them like Wanda...and he, like Wanda, did it unconsciously and that's the parallel I'm referring too...
Billy's pocket dimension was actually real, it wasn't like the hex which was just an illusion. Billy's creation led to people dying for reals, Wanda didn't kill anybody with the hex.@@darrekworkman5595
Dang Emergency you were spot on with Wiccan unknowingly using his reality warping powers like his mother the whole time! This is why i love watching your content 🙌🏾 The way did that last episode was a satisfying setup for the Vision series
@@nooneneeded588he only affected 13 people with his hex and I for one don't think Death or the Salem Seven are innocent here. So the count of 'innocent' people is four. Of those four, Jennifer survived and got her powers back, Agatha (not Billy) killed Alice, Lillian died a hero's death that she chose, leaving just Sharon which was messed up.
Knowing that Nicky was supposed to die in childbirth and Jen was a midwife; it gives new light to the scene where Agatha reassures Jen of her abilities during the first trial. We now know how deeply she meant it when she told her "I left you alone because your work was important!"
Death likes Agatha because she culls the witch population. I imagine that if there were an alternate reality without Agatha there would be a lot of witches around. And they’d be living way too long.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever. And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
Now, to me, it did. I never cared for Wanda and her obsession with her made up sons. I wanted to see a straightforward witchie story. I didn't expect Agatha to get her powers back, exactly, but all this business of Death chasing Agatha and wanting her son, and Billy being the sequel to WandaVision was not what I signed up for. Sorry, this one was a miss for me. Really, it was ever since Sharon died.
What a great ending. Agatha using both Billy's and Nicky's innocence to con people for her own ends felt in character and suitably tragic. And Rio's grave for Agatha, with the flowers, fungi etc was fantastic and a subtle way of showing her affection. Overall just a great series - writing and acting, and I hope the reworking of DD means its of at least this quality, as all the actors deserve.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever. And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
I wonder if Billy Really closed the road at the end or just temporarily hid it. He believed it and made it, and the witches all gained power with each trial. Imagine another set of witches start entering Agatha’s basement singing the song and it reopens. Jennifer survived so she might actually believe in the road now.
Rio cutting through the backdrop of the road just felt like Aubrey Plaza being her normal chaotic self. Like she was bored that day and wanted to have fun.
Thanks for putting this breakdown out as soon as possible. Much appreciated. I loved seeing Rio as Lady Death in episode 8, and when she claimed Alice's soul. I loved all the characters but Rio/Lady Death always fascinated me the most during the series. Glad to know I'll see more of her as well as Billy and Agatha in MCU.
Aubrey is just sexy AF so you can’t ignore her. But Agatha was the most fascinating character to me. I also liked the other 3 witches, forget their names protection, potion and divination.
I just want to point out that there's a scene where Agatha told Nicholas (after he told her to use her purple to conjour food), "I can't heal you, or protect you, or divine when she will come for you" (something along those lines). Which corresponds to Protection witch, Potions witch, and Divination witch.
So why not just... Not kill them then? Also why can't she do those things? Doesn't she take their power when she kills the witches? If she's sacrificing witches to keep death away, why was she killing them before nicki? And/or why continue "serving death" by killing witches afterwards?
@@thomasfisher1829 Agatha lost the ability to trust people. People forget her mother's coven tried to kill her. That's why she's been a covenless witch. And it's not because of something she can fix, it's because of her power to absorb powers, so she just settled for being evil and focusing on them. She said it that they would just try to kill them if they joined in the episode.
@@seanfrancis5723 All witches in the show are girls, no? Except for Billy? That tells me that she is a she, inside the body of a he. Just my perception. I could be wrong. Not a coincidence that they are all girls...except for the gay guy, imo.
My husband was curious as to how it would be "Agatha All Along" and I was glad they answered that with the whole concept of the road being her all along.
The cast and crew really hit it out of the park with this show. I really enjoyed each character’s story but to see how well they did to make you connect with Lilia, Agatha, Jen, and Billy was so well done.
SPOLIERS: LOOK AWAY! It really was Agatha All Along! 😉 If you know, you know. She pulled a fast one on the witch community for centuries. This was such a beautiful ending to this show. The final episode recontextualizes the entire ballad and the journey on the road in such a perfect way, and I respect the show so much for executing properly and even attempting to go this route at all. Congratulations to the amazing Agatha All Along team on making such an incredible show! 👏🏽🔮✨️ Making TV is incredibly hard, and they managed to pull it off excellently!
I wholeheartedly agree! Even with Charlie calling it, and when he does that he often ends up being right... I enjoyed the character building and the ending made WandaVision's ending much better in my opinion. You see what Agatha's motivation was the whole time. It felt a little rushed in WandaVision. Now the Scarlett Witch saga is why I keep watching Marvel. So far it's the best story overall with Loki in second.
Yesterday, before the finale I decided to see it all again I noticed a lot of things: -how Agatha was confused and looked around when they entered the door - when Sharon dies, Agatha says 'I didn't think you had it in you' which didn't made any sense to me because her only explanation was winking at him. -Also the blue colors, and the comments from Sharon of "I thought we would only find the remainings of the understation -Billy is the one that ALWAYS either finds the clue or starts the trial -when Rio is 'summoned' she is laughing and acting kooky, and walking/jumping sayong "so the witches road eh? Cool" kinda of when Agatha was trapped in her detective tv show, and that's why she never took it seriously (first time watching it thought she was immortal and didn't care) and ever since she gets here you can see her just like "admiring" everything BONUS. They wrote Billy as 🖤 because no witch could say, write or know his name!!!
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever. And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
@@sckaze777agatha killed the withces just to prolong her life, and to gain power, she has been doing this before nicki was born, since the 1600s, and did it anyway when nicki was alive, and she even used her own son, for her own good, shes just evil, who only thinking about herself, but i think, her moral change when nicki was born, she probably killed the witches, so she is strong enough to protect nicki, but everything change after nicki died, she became evil as she was before, and killing witches for her own good, to gain power, but deep down shes just not ready to die and to meet nicki, even after she died, she became a ghost, just to stall the time, she probably felt bad using nicki for killing the witch, and probably felt she was never a good mother
Bitter sweet to see the show end and have to wait to see what they do next, so spot on with the analysis and predictions this show was great in every way.
i liked how the ending also tied in with the wizard of Oz reference. Oncd you look behind the curtain, the wizard isnt real ; he doesn't grant wishes , the roads isnt real it doesn't grants wishes. Agatha deceived them like the wizard.
Which means she can’t claim him… if she killed him his soul would then reincarnate unless marvel is trying to say he’s powerful enough to make an entire new soul for himself
Your theory came through Charlie. There was no witches road, it was Billy’s Hex. Agatha meant to end the witches in the beginning in her basement so Billy’s Hex gave them more time.
Everything made so much sense after seeing this episode. The whole season i kept feeling like agatha was super confused about everything that was going on yet supposedly was the expert and now we know she was actually confused cause she made the road up in her head and suddenly it appears lol
Agatha saying she left Jen alone because of the good work she was doing, makes so much sense now. Jen was a midwife, helping babies be born safely, and Nicky was meant to be stillborn
I think it’s very satisfying in a way to see that Agatha was consistently a villain. Does this make her technically the first _true_ Disney Villain we’ve had for decades? It’s also funny and ironic how Agatha in the comics was an old lady who was simply a magical babysitter and mentor to other super-powered children and witches. She then died and became a ghost, acting as Wanda’s mentor and guide on the Witches Road. Then with the popularity surge due to WandaVision, the character was brought back to life as a young woman, fully independent and with her own autonomy, now very morally ambiguous. We have the reverse in the MCU - an evil woman, Agatha antagonises Wanda, takes Billy on the Witches Road with her own goals in mind, before dying, and becoming and old lady ghost to mentor Billy. I also noted that while Agatha is coded as the Wicked Witch of the West, Billy seems to be the Wicked Witch of the East. The WWotE was a far less evil witch that terrorised Munchkinland, and is known in pop culture by her signature black and white striped stockings. Billy, from *_Eastview_* is shown to still terrorise Westview and be responsible for deaths, albeit, far less than Agatha and without deliberate intent. And he’s shown wearing a black and white striped shirt. Much like Buffy, they really made it clear that Thomas Shephard is a boy who has no friends, family or love in his life - a boy that was _literally_ bullied _to death._ William Kaplan was conversely a boy with a loving family, stable home and many friends. I think this parallels Buffy and Faith. Faith was written to show who and what Buffy Summer would be and become if she never had her love and support from her friends and family, and who made all the wrong decisions in life. Like seeing the two futures a person could have if they followed one of two diverging roads. Billy and Tommy are twins. And while Billy is popular, beloved and a personable character in the comics, Tommy is often forgotten or actively disliked, especially due to his very obnoxious, arrogant and antagonistic nature. Again, not unlike Buffy vs Faith.
Just talking to a friend about this and we both have the attitude that if they make MCU Tommy the same way, we'll be pissed. He desperately needs to be toned down, if not completely changed - just like they did with Agatha Harkness' character.
AAA has been one of the better MCU series by far. I had a different take on the Nicholas situation though. When Agatha said she made him from scratch, it came across more like an immaculate conception, like he wasn't supposed to exist, and that's why Rio (Death) came for him because it went against the laws of nature. Kinda the same reason she wanted to claim Billy. Anyway, just a theory.
@@nelclarke4017 I also interpreted it as such when I was watching the show. I felt that it gave Agatha something similar to Wanda (creating life from scratch), that's why she's kinda sympathetic towards Wanda.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever. And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
Just wanted say shout to Charlie for his theory of Billy creating the witches road and shout to the cosmic wonder for his theory Agatha never been on the road and created as hoax to lure the witches and stealing their power
I think when she says because “the truth is too awful” she means the truth is that she, Agatha, couldn’t protect her son. In the flashbacks we see her showing fear when she tells young Nicky that someday he will die, and I think that fueled her desire to drain more and more witches to “survive” maybe she thought she could fight Rio when she finally showed up to claim Nicky. I think that’s the reason why when she is leaving to let Rio have Billy, and Billy asks her if that’s how her son died, that triggered her memories and now she actually CAN protect this young person, overcoming her pain for not being able to do anything for her own son
This is a big plot hole for me... because Rio is death, and clearly the Nicholas was meant to die at childbirth, it wasn't 'personal'. So there seems to be more to this story than they are telling us.
@@progamer1000-ro2grThe writer for Agatha All Along Jac started with Wandavision, this trilogy of shows is hers. She's been working on VisionQuest too, so I'm having a lot of hope for the third show.
I am going to miss this show so much. I haven’t enjoyed much of the mcu stuff on tv since Moonnight but this was so freaking amazing. I hope you get a nap. You have been so freaking fast! This episode duo was so freaking emotional.
The DARKHOLD wasn't a misdirect. Billy made that appear because Kale told him she heard Agatha might have traded him for the Darkhold or made a deal with Mephisto. It was definitely mentioned and then Billy made that real because he was thinking it.
I have seen multiple analysts talking about this series.. and I love the fact that you are the only one who mentioned that the road is created by Billy.. to the point that I wasn't even surprised when the exposed this fact.. You are genius..
I’m not sure what it was but the finding tommy scene was just so perfect and like hypnotic I completely forgot I was watching anything and got lost in Billy’s acting
The finale was so good! Now, no wonders why chaos magic is considered to be the most powerful & chaotic magic in Marvel. It can bring things out of balance & order. Wanda used her chaos magic to create Vision & dare even I say, a functional copy of the Mind Stone. We saw Vision used its power to sense what's wrong with the townies & freed the mind of that guy who was under Wanda's spell & shot out an energy beam at the White Vision, clearly using the Mind Stone's power. Wanda created Billy/Tommy, creating souls essentially & gave Billy a form of magic similar to that of hers. He then used it unknownily to resurrect himself into another body, cheated Death, created the Road, resurrected his brother, etc, causing more chaotic events around him. That's why Lady Death was not having any of it. It's like a cancer in a way, breaking rules and laws left and right. All of this stemmed from Wanda's breaking down and accidentally created the hex & living beings inside of it & a copy of an infinity stone. This is just crazy! That's why Agatha was so afraid of Wanda & the prophecy about the Scarlet Witch, because chaos magic can bring imbalance across the universe/multiverse if not used properly.
In the comics at least, the magic Billy uses, comes from a powerful unknown source. Where the Scarlet Witch uses chaos magic and creates chaos, Wiccan can do much more than just chaos. We'll have to wait and see where the MCU takes it though.
29:14 I think she created Nicky like Wanda created Billy, that’s why she was so obsessed with how Wanda can do it, and figured out it was chaos magic that’s why she’s so chaotic. That’s what she called him scratch because she made him herself from magical scratch.
So VisionQuest as the 3rd culmination where the adventure of finding Tommy takes place and to end it off with the Scarlet Witch movie where everyone reunites to pay off “we’ll say hello again” and where the family teams up to fight a big bad. I’m good with this!
Old Scratch is an ancient nickname for the Devil. Also Agatha admitted it was Billy who released her from Wonda's hex and not the death of the scarlet witch. So Wonda maybe isn't dead after all.
I will need to rewatched to maybe understand Agatha better. After all she started planning to murder them all, except for Teen because she sent him upstairs when they were "trying to open the door" and I guess was planning to use him to lure in more witches, just like he used his son. I don't understand her end transformation yet, it's too early.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever. And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
West view house prices must have lost a lot of value 😂 man this has to be the best mcu show as far as Disney plus not sure if it was the actors or the writing but they deserved raises and promotions.
Honestly though this finale, I have to say it was very emotional. It was very out of sorts, but I think the finding Tommy part was probably the most emotional and I think it was very unexpectedly amazing
Bro Agatha could care less about having killed those other witches. She told Billy many times to get used to killing people as a witch. She didn’t want people to know she has a heart and how painful it was to have lose her son through his natural death. She’d rather have them all believe she’s a monster than someone experiencing heart break. Billy is the only one to see through her full on tough witch act and tries to get her to be more than evil.
The best I could find on Death/Rio’s flower is it’s called Beach Spider Lily, this is what wiki says about it Hymenocallis littoralis Beach Spider Lily) has been utilized for its medicinal value. The leaf and bulb extract contain anti-viral and anti-neoplastic properties, making it a traditional medicine for wound healing
Maybe it was to give to agatha to help heal the pain of losing a kid? (Not literally heal her but a gift to show she understands or something along those lines)
Not this universe, but DC's Endless (of which Death is one) are implied to both represent a core element of existence and define its antithesis - e.g. Dream defines reality, Destruction defines creation, etc. So perhaps this is a similar idea - Death is actually both life and death, the natural cycle of growth and decay. It also sets her up as the exact opposite of her sibling, Eternity.
1. The scene where Billy is in his room when he realizes it was him all along is a homage to the revealing of the plot in the movie "Unusual Suspects" when the detectives realize that Verbal was in fact Keyser Soze. 2. Nicholas Scratch, in this series, was conceived by Agatha alone through a conjuring spell from the self induced "scratch" between her knuckles which we see a few times in the series. This is the reason Rio came immediately for the baby because like Billy, the soul was created unnaturally.
Idk it kinda bothers me that Agatha wanted to take her recent coven's magic. She warned Lilia not to blast her when they first met. Jen was bound. Sharon didn't have powers. That leaves only Alice whose magic she stole later wasn't enough. Plus Lilia called her scam after she tried to goad them into attacking her and warned everyone else about it.
But when they get together as a coven- a “spark” happens and they (Alice and Lillia) could blast her - yes, she to,d Lillia. BUT IF SHE MADE THEM MAD ENOUGH, then Lillia might lose control and not say anything and let them blast her.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever. And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
I think the road's creation was different than the hex. He didn't make up all the rules, the song and generations of oral tradition made up the rules - the other witches in the coven regularly state the "rules" based on the song and what they heard about the road. I think it's more like - his subconscious put a prompt into Generative AI and it created the road with his magic. If you think about it, any mythical place or object or story was originally created at some time. Belief makes it real.
Damn the last three episodes were really solid.Let's see what the future holds for agatha-Billy duo. Kathryn Hann was splendid. I wonder, who was the father of Nicholas?
I loved this series. They did a really good job of closing the loops whilst leaving just enough of a cliffhanger to keep us interested. Katherine really pulls at the heartstrings during the Nicolas scenes. I think Agatha truly believes it was her fault that Nicolas died, so she put up walls and refused to let anyone get close enough to hurt her that way again - until Billy saved her. I believe they all got what their hearts wanted from the road - Alice broke her familys curse, Lilia saved her coven, Jen got her power back, Billy saved Tommy, and Agatha was able to save her 'son' (Billy) from Death and begin to forgive herself for not being able to save Nicholas. Even Sharon will have been reunited with her husband after she died with friends who, somewhat, accepted her into their group.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever. And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
@@sckaze777 People were screaming for a pure evil character, but when you actually get one like Agatha's character, you wrote a long ass paragraph on why she has a personality disorder and should do a redemption arc for her instead.
@sckaze777 I may be wrong, and Agatha may turn back to her 'evil' self and try to turn Billy and Tommy to the dark side (it could even tie everyone back to Mephisto), but its my takeaway from the series. Agatha was draining witches to save her son, and then once he died, she blamed herself and couldn't face him. At some point between Nicholas dying and WandaVision, she ends up with the Darkhold - the book that corrupts its reader absolutely. She, like Wanda, thought the Darkhold would give them what they wanted - their sons, alive and breathing. They are women who have lost EVERYTHING. They are women with UNTOLD power. They are not inherently evil. They are griefstriken mothers who would do anything and who can do almost anything to get their kids back. Agatha had no reason to fight the darkness once Nicholas was gone until Billy came to her. A young Witch, without a mother, wanting to learn the craft, and, most importantly, believing in her. That was when she changed - when Billy said he believed in her and trusted her not to drain his power. She didn't just let Rio take Billy. She had to make it look like she was walking away so that Rio wouldn't be able to stop the 'kiss of death'. Agatha did sacrifice herself to save him - a death for a life. Even once she had saved Billy, she still couldn't face Nicholas because she blamed herself for his death. She knows she is done bad things, but as Wanda so eloquently put it in MoM, 'when you do it, you're a hero. When I do it, I'm the villain. That doesn't seem fair'
Was Rio Nicholas Scratch’s ‘father’ as the Green Witch and Agatha as the maiden drained her original coven to power his conception? We saw Agatha as the Mother, and finally as the Crone, so Agatha’s ‘sacrifice’ was a guess on her part to weave herself into the Ballard and the Hex to become the guiding spirit, thus survive after her death.
I was thinking that Agatha had to kill the witches to keep Rio from claiming Nicholas. Kind of like a trade off for more time with him. If she provided Rio bodies, then Rio would give them more time together. That last night that he was alive, they had started the con, but then Nicholas asked that they do it another day. I was thinking that was why Rio came that night because they didn't finish the job that they had started.
She killed the witches to keep death happy so she could have more time with her son. That’s why the one time they did not kill the witches. Is the night Nichols died.
@ 4:45 of the episode, she said she made nick from scratch. no spells. (FLOWER:) Red spider lily (Lycoris radiata). Used in day of the dead celebrations, in Japan they plant them near graves. Poisonous to us and wildlife.
Loved this show. Great writing and acting. Someone was chopping onions in the last episode lol 😭 Can't wait to see these characters again in the MCU ❤️
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@@emergencyawesome In Charlie we trust 🙏🤘
Love how they made agatha ghost like her comic counterpart It cool if she shows up in the fantastic four!!
Will they even address the young avengers team in any way ?
@@olivergarrick1175I mean technically it would be her tho
Thanks!
There’s something hilarious about Wicca in his superhero suit getting in his car and driving off 😂.
It's his parents car 😂😂😂 he has to take it back
Especially after he did the same hood thing Wanda did before she flew away 😂
Came in flying in and then drove off lol
I literally lol’d as he did this and rolled eyes pretty hard. Dude looks ridiculous in that outfit.
Exactly, trying to keep the show budget under control 😂
Now let's go find Toby... I mean Tommy.
lol
😹
Tobey is a bit old for Tommy.
Agatha: who?
No please god, no! No! No! NOOOOO--
I'm OBSESSED with Rio's meta exit by cutting through the set. They're actors working on a sound stage similar to the Wizard of Oz, filming a fantastical TV show about a magical boy who LOVES movies and inspires their reality to be like the Wizard of Oz sound stage. Adding the fact that Aubrey Plaza is primarily known to be a darkly comedic actor, having her literally cut THROUGH the sound stage was so perfectly absurd.
Honestly, whoever cast Plaza as death is a genius, give them a raise
She exited like the post scene from Dr.strange movie where the lady comes to get Strange because of the incursions her created.
Take you're meta nonsense somewhere else.
Yeahhhh this is all your head cannon bub
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever.
And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
@@sckaze777 and the fact that the darkhold kind of got forgotten
Damm Marvel ...... props ...this was Glorious ...Charlie called it with The Hex..... Just Waiting for Agatha to offer her nanny services to The Fantástic Four...
Thanks!
@@emergencyawesomefor sure, great call!
does Agatha have connections with Franklin Richards in the comics?
@cabs0110 She was his nanny... That was her intro
@@cabs0110yes
I think Agatha’s reason for killing so many witches comes down to distracting Death. Nicholas was supposed to be stillborn and Agatha was unsure when she would return, so she started killing as many witches as possible to keep Death occupied with taking them to the afterlife. I think when Nicky says “we can kill more witches tomorrow,” he’s saying that because she’s prolonging his time as much as possible by adding to the death toll Death needs to manage. The day Nicky didn’t carry out their daily routine, Death caught up. I think this is reinforced by Death saying she was distracted from claiming Billy by Agatha via the death of Alice, Lilia, and Sharon.
She was killing witches before she killed witches after she’s just an evil person
@@orangejuice27😂😂 right?
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever.
And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
I think further than your Theory, Agatha' journey of the road actually started much like Alice's mother adapted it;
A protection spell for Scratch that attracts victims AND offers protection when people elsewhere sing it.
@@orangejuice27 That's fine, she was still getting power from them that's what she gained from it. It's fair to assume all her killing is what drew Death to her romantically until that eventually backfired due to her son being one of the victims. Yet, because of their previous relationship, she could be aware of Rio's process of leading people to the afterlife and more strategically killed to give herself time since there was no concrete timeline for how long Scratch would live. Just playing the theory game, no need to be boring
The finding Tommy scene was unexpectedly emotional
The bullied part went to tommy instead of billy unlike the comic makes me emotional 😢
It was the WandaVision music and hearing Wanda and Vision’s voices. It broke me
@@Dangitwhynotme facts drowning that boy for no reason 😂
And the best part is that Tommy is being played by JOSHUA BASSETT like can you believe it???
@@Dangitwhynotme fr 😭 god I was sad
The parallel between Billy and Wanda was awesome...he really is..."just like his mother"
He's a real Mommy's Boy, lol
@emergencyawesome this is true...now...On 2 Franklin Richards!
Not exactly. Billy's hex never messed with people's minds like Wanda's did. He probably could have, but it speaks to a difference between the characters that it didn't.
@@darrekworkman5595 i understand...but if you look at Billy's hex...it created a reality all the witches except Agatha thought was a real place...so in effect he did mess with their minds...he just didn't control them like Wanda...and he, like Wanda, did it unconsciously and that's the parallel I'm referring too...
Billy's pocket dimension was actually real, it wasn't like the hex which was just an illusion. Billy's creation led to people dying for reals, Wanda didn't kill anybody with the hex.@@darrekworkman5595
I love how the finale episode is titled "Maiden Mother Crone," and we get see Agatha go through all 3 of them.
Dang Emergency you were spot on with Wiccan unknowingly using his reality warping powers like his mother the whole time! This is why i love watching your content 🙌🏾
The way did that last episode was a satisfying setup for the Vision series
Thanks!
To be fair Charlie gets alllll the down low lol. Got to be a straight shooter to get all that good info . We're lucky
Billy was like" oh, It was me all along".
It Me, lol
@@emergencyawesome He caused so much trouble. 😂😂
the song WAS Agatha All Along
@@nooneneeded588he only affected 13 people with his hex and I for one don't think Death or the Salem Seven are innocent here. So the count of 'innocent' people is four. Of those four, Jennifer survived and got her powers back, Agatha (not Billy) killed Alice, Lillian died a hero's death that she chose, leaving just Sharon which was messed up.
She just went along with it 😂
Knowing that Nicky was supposed to die in childbirth and Jen was a midwife; it gives new light to the scene where Agatha reassures Jen of her abilities during the first trial. We now know how deeply she meant it when she told her "I left you alone because your work was important!"
Death likes Agatha because she culls the witch population. I imagine that if there were an alternate reality without Agatha there would be a lot of witches around. And they’d be living way too long.
This finale did not disappoint!
They did a great job with the ending. Not all series can say that!
Magnificent story. Surpassed my expectations in terms of how good the story was.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever.
And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
Strong Disagree.
Now, to me, it did. I never cared for Wanda and her obsession with her made up sons. I wanted to see a straightforward witchie story. I didn't expect Agatha to get her powers back, exactly, but all this business of Death chasing Agatha and wanting her son, and Billy being the sequel to WandaVision was not what I signed up for. Sorry, this one was a miss for me. Really, it was ever since Sharon died.
So the real witches roads was the friends Billy killed along the way.
That got a laugh outta me.
@@FutureDeep me too
Me three 😂
I thought that Nicholas died because Agatha hadn’t killed any witches recently. She was keeping Rio away by sacrificing witches to her.
Wow and the reason why he died on that specific day is because she didn’t kill any witches that day. Didn’t put that together until this comment.
Yes this is it
Oh holy hell😳. I didn’t put that together
So he was supposed to have died soon after his birth? Hmm, that is interesting.
Same thought!
What a great ending. Agatha using both Billy's and Nicky's innocence to con people for her own ends felt in character and suitably tragic. And Rio's grave for Agatha, with the flowers, fungi etc was fantastic and a subtle way of showing her affection. Overall just a great series - writing and acting, and I hope the reworking of DD means its of at least this quality, as all the actors deserve.
Ooooo that's a good catch. Didn't think of it that way, that is actually quite touching 😭
RUBBISH DRAMA
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever.
And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
I wonder if Billy Really closed the road at the end or just temporarily hid it. He believed it and made it, and the witches all gained power with each trial.
Imagine another set of witches start entering Agatha’s basement singing the song and it reopens. Jennifer survived so she might actually believe in the road now.
@ithamarlowe6158 it's called fake road
The “Don’t take it all” was so sincere
She learned how to control it
@@Che_sells_CshellsI think she always could.
@@KhronnusI wanna say she always could too, but it really seems like she didn’t mean to kill Alice.
@@Scomusiq-o7cI don't think she cared about Alice.
@@Che_sells_CshellsI don't think she could take all of Billy's power. He basically has Death in a stand off and he isn't even aware of it.
Rio cutting through the backdrop of the road just felt like Aubrey Plaza being her normal chaotic self. Like she was bored that day and wanted to have fun.
That wasn’t a special effect it was just Aubrey Plaza being Aubrey Plaza.
It was Aubrey all along
Director: So cut the air and walk forward and we'll put in a cool CG effect later.
Aubrey Plaza: Nah, I'll just cut the backdrop. Peace.
Reminds me of the ASMR video where she shows she loves to play with that knife.
Thanks for putting this breakdown out as soon as possible. Much appreciated. I loved seeing Rio as Lady Death in episode 8, and when she claimed Alice's soul. I loved all the characters but Rio/Lady Death always fascinated me the most during the series. Glad to know I'll see more of her as well as Billy and Agatha in MCU.
Awesome!
Aubrey is just sexy AF so you can’t ignore her. But Agatha was the most fascinating character to me. I also liked the other 3 witches, forget their names protection, potion and divination.
Both episodes were incredible and man Kathryn Hahn give one hell of performance
She was great! It will be fun to see ghost Agatha show up in future movies and series.
Yeah phenomenal actress , awesome character
SHE IS ABSOLUTELY A ICON 😊
I thought she overacted everytime she was on screen, literally the only person I couldn't stand
I just want to point out that there's a scene where Agatha told Nicholas (after he told her to use her purple to conjour food), "I can't heal you, or protect you, or divine when she will come for you" (something along those lines). Which corresponds to Protection witch, Potions witch, and Divination witch.
Oh man, totally missed this.
so you’re saying: if she had a coven… she would have had everything she needed 😳
@@mariazendeh6644 😳 who would've known, that you need friends/family/a coven to survive in a tough world.
So why not just... Not kill them then? Also why can't she do those things? Doesn't she take their power when she kills the witches? If she's sacrificing witches to keep death away, why was she killing them before nicki? And/or why continue "serving death" by killing witches afterwards?
@@thomasfisher1829 Agatha lost the ability to trust people. People forget her mother's coven tried to kill her. That's why she's been a covenless witch. And it's not because of something she can fix, it's because of her power to absorb powers, so she just settled for being evil and focusing on them. She said it that they would just try to kill them if they joined in the episode.
I love the parallel between Billy leaving Westview just like her mother
Her ?
@seanfrancis5723
Probably an auto correct error.
Along with Jen flying away
@@seanfrancis5723 All witches in the show are girls, no? Except for Billy? That tells me that she is a she, inside the body of a he. Just my perception. I could be wrong. Not a coincidence that they are all girls...except for the gay guy, imo.
Guys can be called witches too. Wiccan is canonically male, and just because he's gay, doesn't make him a woman @@TengAi21
My husband was curious as to how it would be "Agatha All Along" and I was glad they answered that with the whole concept of the road being her all along.
The cast and crew really hit it out of the park with this show. I really enjoyed each character’s story but to see how well they did to make you connect with Lilia, Agatha, Jen, and Billy was so well done.
love the flashback of Agatha and Nicolas was so emotional losing him to death
It was made even sadder because it was simply illness that caused his death, not Agatha 😭
I WEPT
SPOLIERS: LOOK AWAY!
It really was Agatha All Along! 😉
If you know, you know. She pulled a fast one on the witch community for centuries. This was such a beautiful ending to this show. The final episode recontextualizes the entire ballad and the journey on the road in such a perfect way, and I respect the show so much for executing properly and even attempting to go this route at all. Congratulations to the amazing Agatha All Along team on making such an incredible show! 👏🏽🔮✨️
Making TV is incredibly hard, and they managed to pull it off excellently!
I wholeheartedly agree! Even with Charlie calling it, and when he does that he often ends up being right...
I enjoyed the character building and the ending made WandaVision's ending much better in my opinion. You see what Agatha's motivation was the whole time.
It felt a little rushed in WandaVision. Now the Scarlett Witch saga is why I keep watching Marvel. So far it's the best story overall with Loki in second.
Yesterday, before the finale I decided to see it all again I noticed a lot of things:
-how Agatha was confused and looked around when they entered the door
- when Sharon dies, Agatha says 'I didn't think you had it in you' which didn't made any sense to me because her only explanation was winking at him.
-Also the blue colors, and the comments from Sharon of "I thought we would only find the remainings of the understation
-Billy is the one that ALWAYS either finds the clue or starts the trial
-when Rio is 'summoned' she is laughing and acting kooky, and walking/jumping sayong "so the witches road eh? Cool" kinda of when Agatha was trapped in her detective tv show, and that's why she never took it seriously (first time watching it thought she was immortal and didn't care) and ever since she gets here you can see her just like "admiring" everything
BONUS. They wrote Billy as 🖤 because no witch could say, write or know his name!!!
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever.
And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
@@sckaze777agatha killed the withces just to prolong her life, and to gain power, she has been doing this before nicki was born, since the 1600s, and did it anyway when nicki was alive, and she even used her own son, for her own good, shes just evil, who only thinking about herself, but i think, her moral change when nicki was born, she probably killed the witches, so she is strong enough to protect nicki, but everything change after nicki died, she became evil as she was before, and killing witches for her own good, to gain power, but deep down shes just not ready to die and to meet nicki, even after she died, she became a ghost, just to stall the time, she probably felt bad using nicki for killing the witch, and probably felt she was never a good mother
👏🔮 ✨
Bitter sweet to see the show end and have to wait to see what they do next, so spot on with the analysis and predictions this show was great in every way.
Thank you! I appreciate it!
R-I-P for those we lost on the Road
RIP to Billy's victims.
This finale left me wanting more, so it did stick the landing.
It was a great finale, which is not usually the case for most tv series!
i liked how the ending also tied in with the wizard of Oz reference. Oncd you look behind the curtain, the wizard isnt real ; he doesn't grant wishes , the roads isnt real it doesn't grants wishes. Agatha deceived them like the wizard.
Great point!
Westview has suffered enough‼️😂
The fact that they're all still there...
@@hawad.eliasu6914not all, if you look carefully at the start the population of Westview is cut in half since the Wanda accident
So it’s not that Rio CANT claim Billy if he dies. It’s just that she’d lose track of him and she’d have to go out looking for him again.
Which means she can’t claim him… if she killed him his soul would then reincarnate unless marvel is trying to say he’s powerful enough to make an entire new soul for himself
The fact that the final episode AIRS during PREGNANCY AND INFANT LOSS AWARENESS MONTH is probably the MOST heartbreaking reference...
Your theory came through Charlie. There was no witches road, it was Billy’s Hex. Agatha meant to end the witches in the beginning in her basement so Billy’s Hex gave them more time.
I can't wait to see Tommy in the Vision series
The witches road really was inside us all along AND the friends we made (killed) along the way
So glad Jennifer made it out wonder if she will be in midnight sons.
We'll see!
She is a member of that team.@@emergencyawesome
Everything made so much sense after seeing this episode. The whole season i kept feeling like agatha was super confused about everything that was going on yet supposedly was the expert and now we know she was actually confused cause she made the road up in her head and suddenly it appears lol
Agatha saying she left Jen alone because of the good work she was doing, makes so much sense now. Jen was a midwife, helping babies be born safely, and Nicky was meant to be stillborn
I think it’s very satisfying in a way to see that Agatha was consistently a villain. Does this make her technically the first _true_ Disney Villain we’ve had for decades?
It’s also funny and ironic how Agatha in the comics was an old lady who was simply a magical babysitter and mentor to other super-powered children and witches. She then died and became a ghost, acting as Wanda’s mentor and guide on the Witches Road. Then with the popularity surge due to WandaVision, the character was brought back to life as a young woman, fully independent and with her own autonomy, now very morally ambiguous.
We have the reverse in the MCU - an evil woman, Agatha antagonises Wanda, takes Billy on the Witches Road with her own goals in mind, before dying, and becoming and old lady ghost to mentor Billy.
I also noted that while Agatha is coded as the Wicked Witch of the West, Billy seems to be the Wicked Witch of the East. The WWotE was a far less evil witch that terrorised Munchkinland, and is known in pop culture by her signature black and white striped stockings. Billy, from *_Eastview_* is shown to still terrorise Westview and be responsible for deaths, albeit, far less than Agatha and without deliberate intent. And he’s shown wearing a black and white striped shirt.
Much like Buffy, they really made it clear that Thomas Shephard is a boy who has no friends, family or love in his life - a boy that was _literally_ bullied _to death._ William Kaplan was conversely a boy with a loving family, stable home and many friends. I think this parallels Buffy and Faith.
Faith was written to show who and what Buffy Summer would be and become if she never had her love and support from her friends and family, and who made all the wrong decisions in life. Like seeing the two futures a person could have if they followed one of two diverging roads.
Billy and Tommy are twins. And while Billy is popular, beloved and a personable character in the comics, Tommy is often forgotten or actively disliked, especially due to his very obnoxious, arrogant and antagonistic nature. Again, not unlike Buffy vs Faith.
Just talking to a friend about this and we both have the attitude that if they make MCU Tommy the same way, we'll be pissed. He desperately needs to be toned down, if not completely changed - just like they did with Agatha Harkness' character.
Agatha didn’t take Billy on the witches road. Billy did!
Such a good catch on Billy being the wicked witch of the east 🧹👠🌪️
AAA has been one of the better MCU series by far. I had a different take on the Nicholas situation though. When Agatha said she made him from scratch, it came across more like an immaculate conception, like he wasn't supposed to exist, and that's why Rio (Death) came for him because it went against the laws of nature. Kinda the same reason she wanted to claim Billy. Anyway, just a theory.
@@nelclarke4017 I also interpreted it as such when I was watching the show. I felt that it gave Agatha something similar to Wanda (creating life from scratch), that's why she's kinda sympathetic towards Wanda.
@Thamometer yeah, thought the same thing.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever.
And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
Would explain why she hates Rio so much
The only problem I have with that theory are the very deliberate lines Agatha says after he's born: "I spoke no spell. I said no incantation."
I loved the comparison between billy and wanda walking away from the town, placing there hoods up in shame.
Just wanted say shout to Charlie for his theory of Billy creating the witches road and shout to the cosmic wonder for his theory Agatha never been on the road and created as hoax to lure the witches and stealing their power
Thanks!
I think when she says because “the truth is too awful” she means the truth is that she, Agatha, couldn’t protect her son.
In the flashbacks we see her showing fear when she tells young Nicky that someday he will die, and I think that fueled her desire to drain more and more witches to “survive” maybe she thought she could fight Rio when she finally showed up to claim Nicky.
I think that’s the reason why when she is leaving to let Rio have Billy, and Billy asks her if that’s how her son died, that triggered her memories and now she actually CAN protect this young person, overcoming her pain for not being able to do anything for her own son
This is a big plot hole for me... because Rio is death, and clearly the Nicholas was meant to die at childbirth, it wasn't 'personal'. So there seems to be more to this story than they are telling us.
I was oddly relieved to find there was no post credit scene.
The ending was teaser enough to let you know where they're headed next. Usually that's what post credit scenes are for.
Perfect ending taking some things from the comics, I already miss this series, AGATHAAAAAA😭💜
Dude! I’ve been waiting to watch you break down this weeks episode! Billy’s suit looks on point 🔥Thanks Charlie!
Thanks! I appreciate it!
They made a masterpiece with so little !
Such a good series cant wait until vision quest.
Same, the first two series in the trilogy have been so good, hope they don't mess up the last one
@@progamer1000-ro2grThe writer for Agatha All Along Jac started with Wandavision, this trilogy of shows is hers. She's been working on VisionQuest too, so I'm having a lot of hope for the third show.
The flower is a chrysanthemum
I am going to miss this show so much. I haven’t enjoyed much of the mcu stuff on tv since Moonnight but this was so freaking amazing. I hope you get a nap. You have been so freaking fast! This episode duo was so freaking emotional.
You got it wrong Charlie. Agatha was absolutely going to let Death take Billy. She is only changed her mind when he telepathically asked about Nicky
The DARKHOLD wasn't a misdirect. Billy made that appear because Kale told him she heard Agatha might have traded him for the Darkhold or made a deal with Mephisto. It was definitely mentioned and then Billy made that real because he was thinking it.
Oh, now that's explained why.
So….. how did he know about the other witches backstories?
@@ryanjohnson781 Unlike Agatha, probably the other witches are easily read through their minds.
The first witch to approach her about the witches road looks somewhat like Mrs Davis
One of the best shows Marvel has done to date. The finale was written so well, I'm gutted it had to end. 😢
I have seen multiple analysts talking about this series.. and I love the fact that you are the only one who mentioned that the road is created by Billy.. to the point that I wasn't even surprised when the exposed this fact.. You are genius..
You called it! Billy creating the road that’s why you #1
thank you charlie for creating this space for us to scream about agatha all along together
No problem!
I’m not sure what it was but the finding tommy scene was just so perfect and like hypnotic I completely forgot I was watching anything and got lost in Billy’s acting
Agatha really dragged Wanda by telling Billy that he did something more interesting with his power than her 😂
The finale was so good! Now, no wonders why chaos magic is considered to be the most powerful & chaotic magic in Marvel. It can bring things out of balance & order. Wanda used her chaos magic to create Vision & dare even I say, a functional copy of the Mind Stone. We saw Vision used its power to sense what's wrong with the townies & freed the mind of that guy who was under Wanda's spell & shot out an energy beam at the White Vision, clearly using the Mind Stone's power. Wanda created Billy/Tommy, creating souls essentially & gave Billy a form of magic similar to that of hers. He then used it unknownily to resurrect himself into another body, cheated Death, created the Road, resurrected his brother, etc, causing more chaotic events around him. That's why Lady Death was not having any of it. It's like a cancer in a way, breaking rules and laws left and right. All of this stemmed from Wanda's breaking down and accidentally created the hex & living beings inside of it & a copy of an infinity stone. This is just crazy! That's why Agatha was so afraid of Wanda & the prophecy about the Scarlet Witch, because chaos magic can bring imbalance across the universe/multiverse if not used properly.
In the comics at least, the magic Billy uses, comes from a powerful unknown source. Where the Scarlet Witch uses chaos magic and creates chaos, Wiccan can do much more than just chaos. We'll have to wait and see where the MCU takes it though.
Billy is leagues above chaos magic considering who he's the reincarnation of.
@@DPSFSUcomic Billy also comes from chaos magic
29:14 I think she created Nicky like Wanda created Billy, that’s why she was so obsessed with how Wanda can do it, and figured out it was chaos magic that’s why she’s so chaotic.
That’s what she called him scratch because she made him herself from magical scratch.
What a wicked breakdown Charlie
So VisionQuest as the 3rd culmination where the adventure of finding Tommy takes place and to end it off with the Scarlet Witch movie where everyone reunites to pay off “we’ll say hello again” and where the family teams up to fight a big bad. I’m good with this!
You were exactly right about basically everything Charlie, well done sir!
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Old Scratch is an ancient nickname for the Devil.
Also Agatha admitted it was Billy who released her from Wonda's hex and not the death of the scarlet witch.
So Wonda maybe isn't dead after all.
I will need to rewatched to maybe understand Agatha better.
After all she started planning to murder them all, except for Teen because she sent him upstairs when they were "trying to open the door" and I guess was planning to use him to lure in more witches, just like he used his son. I don't understand her end transformation yet, it's too early.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever.
And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
Now that the series is done, we’re all gonna be in Detective Mode looking for a teenager wearing beige Saucony shoes because it’s Tommy!!😂😂😂
West view house prices must have lost a lot of value 😂 man this has to be the best mcu show as far as Disney plus not sure if it was the actors or the writing but they deserved raises and promotions.
I love Wiccan's costume. it looks so good
Enjoyed the episodes and the show as a whole. Definitely appreciate your weekly breakdowns Charlie. You're the man!
I appreciate that! What If Season 3 episodes, Dune and Skeleton Crew Episodes coming before the end of this year. Lots of other stuff too!
@@emergencyawesome So many projects. So little time. Thank you as always sir
Turned out awesome!! No complaints from me! Thank you Charlie!
Billy was like, oh no no no no, we’re not letting you live as a ghost, don’t even think about it
😭
Man… this series was amazing. They manage to create a truly wholesome story here.
Story full of murder and death.
Honestly though this finale, I have to say it was very emotional. It was very out of sorts, but I think the finding Tommy part was probably the most emotional and I think it was very unexpectedly amazing
yep!
Cant wait to see Billy Wiccan and Spirit form Agatha going to find Tommy aka Speed. ❤
Billy and his ghost friend go looking for speed.
Bro Agatha could care less about having killed those other witches. She told Billy many times to get used to killing people as a witch.
She didn’t want people to know she has a heart and how painful it was to have lose her son through his natural death. She’d rather have them all believe she’s a monster than someone experiencing heart break. Billy is the only one to see through her full on tough witch act and tries to get her to be more than evil.
Thanks Charlie this series was great really wish Tommy was a longer scene
The best I could find on Death/Rio’s flower is it’s called Beach Spider Lily, this is what wiki says about it
Hymenocallis littoralis Beach Spider Lily) has been utilized for its medicinal value. The leaf and bulb extract contain anti-viral and anti-neoplastic properties, making it a traditional medicine for wound healing
Maybe it was to give to agatha to help heal the pain of losing a kid? (Not literally heal her but a gift to show she understands or something along those lines)
Not this universe, but DC's Endless (of which Death is one) are implied to both represent a core element of existence and define its antithesis - e.g. Dream defines reality, Destruction defines creation, etc. So perhaps this is a similar idea - Death is actually both life and death, the natural cycle of growth and decay. It also sets her up as the exact opposite of her sibling, Eternity.
@@SlightyLessEvolved Yeah that i feel is shown when agatha passes and the flowers grow (life)
Agatha for the Emmys 2025, sweep that shit with your car...I mean broom 😊
Didn’t know this would be so emotional especially the Tommy scene.
“Sometimes little boys die.
🥲
They left the door open. the bunny ran out. It’s a street bunny now. A new life.
I can't wait for more Agatha, Billy and Death in future mcu projects
They'll all be back!
1. The scene where Billy is in his room when he realizes it was him all along is a homage to the revealing of the plot in the movie "Unusual Suspects" when the detectives realize that Verbal was in fact Keyser Soze.
2. Nicholas Scratch, in this series, was conceived by Agatha alone through a conjuring spell from the self induced "scratch" between her knuckles which we see a few times in the series. This is the reason Rio came immediately for the baby because like Billy, the soul was created unnaturally.
Idk it kinda bothers me that Agatha wanted to take her recent coven's magic. She warned Lilia not to blast her when they first met. Jen was bound. Sharon didn't have powers. That leaves only Alice whose magic she stole later wasn't enough. Plus Lilia called her scam after she tried to goad them into attacking her and warned everyone else about it.
But when they get together as a coven- a “spark” happens and they (Alice and Lillia) could blast her - yes, she to,d Lillia. BUT IF SHE MADE THEM MAD ENOUGH, then Lillia might lose control and not say anything and let them blast her.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever.
And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
You called it. It's funny I didn't hear any other RUclips channels call it.
Finally been waiting for hours
Only thing heartbreaking after it all.. Is Alice's death, because we see that Agatha can control how much she siphons..
Yes, but like she said, she planned to take all of their powers in the basement... so to her, it was one less witch to deal with later.
I will miss this show 🔮💜
Agatha and Billy will be back, Rio/Death too!
I think the road's creation was different than the hex. He didn't make up all the rules, the song and generations of oral tradition made up the rules - the other witches in the coven regularly state the "rules" based on the song and what they heard about the road. I think it's more like - his subconscious put a prompt into Generative AI and it created the road with his magic.
If you think about it, any mythical place or object or story was originally created at some time. Belief makes it real.
Legit the best part of my wake up routine! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Love it!
Damn the last three episodes were really solid.Let's see what the future holds for agatha-Billy duo. Kathryn Hann was splendid. I wonder, who was the father of Nicholas?
I loved this series. They did a really good job of closing the loops whilst leaving just enough of a cliffhanger to keep us interested.
Katherine really pulls at the heartstrings during the Nicolas scenes. I think Agatha truly believes it was her fault that Nicolas died, so she put up walls and refused to let anyone get close enough to hurt her that way again - until Billy saved her.
I believe they all got what their hearts wanted from the road - Alice broke her familys curse, Lilia saved her coven, Jen got her power back, Billy saved Tommy, and Agatha was able to save her 'son' (Billy) from Death and begin to forgive herself for not being able to save Nicholas. Even Sharon will have been reunited with her husband after she died with friends who, somewhat, accepted her into their group.
I loved this show because of the theme revolving around magic and witches, however the ending is pretty frustrating with how it didn't really give Agatha a satisfying conclusion that punished her wrongdoings. Like, she's killed Alice when she showed that she actually could break the absorption process, and Sharon who really didn't deserve what happened to her. She also killed witches for no reason AT ALL, I thought she was absorbing powers for the sake of healing her son or whatever, but no. She was really just a psychopathic serial killer who kills for fun. And Billy just forgives her for everything she's done in the end? Wow Billy really has no sort of moral consistency whatsoever.
And I know Agatha's a very conniving and deceitful character, but her changes in personality makes her look like she has a personality disorder or something. In the 8th episode she told Billy that she wants to sacrifice herself but once Billy attempts to turn himself in, somehow she flips a switch and walks away letting Rio take Billy? Girl can you make up your mind??
@@sckaze777 People were screaming for a pure evil character, but when you actually get one like Agatha's character, you wrote a long ass paragraph on why she has a personality disorder and should do a redemption arc for her instead.
@sckaze777 I may be wrong, and Agatha may turn back to her 'evil' self and try to turn Billy and Tommy to the dark side (it could even tie everyone back to Mephisto), but its my takeaway from the series.
Agatha was draining witches to save her son, and then once he died, she blamed herself and couldn't face him. At some point between Nicholas dying and WandaVision, she ends up with the Darkhold - the book that corrupts its reader absolutely.
She, like Wanda, thought the Darkhold would give them what they wanted - their sons, alive and breathing. They are women who have lost EVERYTHING. They are women with UNTOLD power. They are not inherently evil. They are griefstriken mothers who would do anything and who can do almost anything to get their kids back.
Agatha had no reason to fight the darkness once Nicholas was gone until Billy came to her. A young Witch, without a mother, wanting to learn the craft, and, most importantly, believing in her. That was when she changed - when Billy said he believed in her and trusted her not to drain his power. She didn't just let Rio take Billy. She had to make it look like she was walking away so that Rio wouldn't be able to stop the 'kiss of death'. Agatha did sacrifice herself to save him - a death for a life.
Even once she had saved Billy, she still couldn't face Nicholas because she blamed herself for his death. She knows she is done bad things, but as Wanda so eloquently put it in MoM, 'when you do it, you're a hero. When I do it, I'm the villain. That doesn't seem fair'
I’m pretty sure Charlie was the first to call the hex!
Was Rio Nicholas Scratch’s ‘father’ as the Green Witch and Agatha as the maiden drained her original coven to power his conception? We saw Agatha as the Mother, and finally as the Crone, so Agatha’s ‘sacrifice’ was a guess on her part to weave herself into the Ballard and the Hex to become the guiding spirit, thus survive after her death.
I was thinking that Agatha had to kill the witches to keep Rio from claiming Nicholas. Kind of like a trade off for more time with him. If she provided Rio bodies, then Rio would give them more time together. That last night that he was alive, they had started the con, but then Nicholas asked that they do it another day. I was thinking that was why Rio came that night because they didn't finish the job that they had started.
Honestly, it seems like Agatha was claiming 'bodies' long before Nicholas entered the picture.
She killed the witches to keep death happy so she could have more time with her son.
That’s why the one time they did not kill the witches. Is the night Nichols died.
Ohhhhhh danggggggg
That doesn’t really make sense though because after he died she continued to kill witches
@@renlysotherlover294 for fun.. for power.. out of habit… to forget about her son?
@@renlysotherlover294Maybe for a different purpose.
@ 4:45 of the episode, she said she made nick from scratch. no spells. (FLOWER:) Red spider lily (Lycoris radiata). Used in day of the dead celebrations, in Japan they plant them near graves. Poisonous to us and wildlife.
I said the exact same thing while watching the show...! " It was Billy all along"!
Loved this show. Great writing and acting. Someone was chopping onions in the last episode lol 😭
Can't wait to see these characters again in the MCU ❤️