RUclips really became a good place for education if you want it to be that.There are incredebly good channels about maths,biology etc but i always was a bit sad about the lack of classical music edjucation especially when there are 1000 videos about how to play the riff of some rock song that has 3 notes in it.There are so many possibilitiese.g.:visualisation,explaining forms or single pieces or composers .Anyways,thank you, i really enjoyed this well made video and hope ,as the channel is pretty young,that there will be more in the future :)
Yes. I’m making a series of videos on Classical Music myself. I call the series Analysis from the Arranger’s Perspective and I plan on going over how I went about arranging the piece obviously, like how I decided on the instrumentation and things like that and I also plan on going over why I find some composers easier to arrange than others. And of course I will show the arrangement. The introduction video is out, now I just need to decide on which Mozart piece to arrange for the first arrangement video. On an earlier poll I made (not in community tab because I don’t have a yet) more people voted for Sonata than the other options, so now I’m just down to deciding on which sonata to arrange.
Note that the ABACABA form has, itself, the ABA form. More explicitly put, consider the (ABA)C(ABA) form. It might be amusing to examine some of the extant former forms to discover if B and C are related to A. That is, upon first glance, a musical piece that appears to be as simple as ABACABA might, upon closer inspection actually be aaa(aba)aaa(aca)aaa(aba)aaa for example. Your video is a pleasure, by the way -- both visually and aurally!
It is amazing how architecture can be connected to music that way. Actually, it is amazing how all the arts can be connected. Do you think is intentional, or an unconscious human tendance? (sorry, my english is not very good)
Also, in the classical period, the A section is always presented in the main key of the piece, while the episodes are in closely related keys (or modulate several times).
@@caterscarrots3407 yeah they just play around with similarities towards the melodies, thank you so much for your answer. Have you learned anything related, that awed your mind? This is pretty simple
@@caterscarrots3407 what about the length of Rondo segmets? Do they have to be about the same length or can B be significantly longer for example? Also, can composer use "bridges" between segments or no?
@@krzysztofq7420 Early on in the Classical period, the segments of a rondo are indeed roughly the same length. As time goes on though, the rondo as a whole expands in scope and the C section in particular tends to get longer than the A and B sections as a development section of sorts. And yes, composers can use bridges between segments of a rondo. Beethoven I know to be one composer in particular that uses bridges between segments of some of his rondos. This is particularly noticeable when transitioning from contrasting material back to the A section. Here are a few examples that show how the rondo has progressed over the years ruclips.net/video/317LBGFeds8/видео.html - Haydn's Gypsy Rondo, segments are roughly the same length ruclips.net/video/TiGKnxAnee0/видео.html - Rondo from Mozart's Piano Sonata in Bb major, it starts out similarly to the Haydn example, but the C section is longer, starting with a development of the B theme, going to contrasting material, and then ending with a development of the A theme. An Exposition/Recapitulation type of asymmetry also shows up in this rondo with the second to last B section twisting into a cadenza, Rondo starts to resemble Sonata form more ruclips.net/video/Ifj8dwuAzAQ/видео.html - Pathetique Sonata Rondo, In Beethoven's rondos, including this one, the bridges between sections of the rondo start to show up on a regular basis. Likewise, Beethoven takes the development section within a rondo that shows up in later Mozart works and makes it the norm, really merging the sonata and the rondo into a single Sonata-Rondo form ruclips.net/video/L6nLtGcYozU/видео.html - Rondo from Brahms' Piano Quartet in G minor, Each section is more expansive than even the Beethoven example and often separates into 2 subsections. Bridges between and within sections occur here. Like the first example, this Rondo is also in the Hungarian or Gypsy style. As you can see from these 4 examples, the Rondo goes from being roughly equal to having a definite asymmetry and more development, becoming like Sonata Form in many ways. And the bridges go from almost nonexistent to definitely being present.
Before you watch the video read this comment; A Rondo is a work that has repeating sections with the first section repeating the most and the being the last section. A common form of this is A-B-A-C-A-B-A If the letter act as an algebraic representation for sections in a song.
I would add another form of rondo to the list of forms that you have and the first Mozart example you have, Rondo alla Turka, is a good example of what I would call an Episode First rondo, as it’s the A major theme, the C theme that feels like the main theme or the refrain, whereas the A theme, the A minor theme at the start of the rondo only appears one more time in the rondo.
Amazing video! I love the way you explained everything and I hope nothing but growth for your channel, I also have a question... what is the name of the pice in the background of the video at 2:50?
your video is perfect. But i have one question. I want to compose my own rondo with its classic form. A theme can be slightly change? For example turning the A theme's melody from major into minor?
Yes, as did I. It’s incorrectly attributed to him, or at least he wasn’t the first to say it. Who knows, Schelling might not have been the first to say it either.
Amazing video! I LOVED the connection to architecture and literature!! By the way if anyone is curious about the awesome handwritten style font, it's "Opera Lyrics Smooth"
Thanks for the great video. I think it's really useful for someone who studies classic music. I am practicing a rondo of Mozart recently. May I share this video and the one about la folia to bilibili? If I can get the permit, I will definitely prepare the Chinese caption and label the RUclips channel where I found them.
I'm so sorry and this is a fantastic video that's really helped me a lot. But you sound EXACTLY like Pinky from Pinky and the Brain. Seriously though man, great job! I love your videos!
today is the 31.12.2024 after getting high on pot haha i got the great idea of a presentation that is going to change eveything for the better you ll all hear about it soon it will be on the 23.01.2025 i put mein name un das thema Shleer O. -ARCHITEKTUR IST ERSTARRTE MUSIK.
@@caterscarrots3407 Rondo is definitively a very special form, its somehow both sophisticated and simple, flamboyant and subdued, and definitively has that "je ne sais quoi" attraction to it, not surprised to learn its rooted in French style...After all, a circle is the "perfect" form...
Another great video. I feel as if I'm watching a channel that will one day have 200,000 subscribers, not 200.
Keep it up.
I've actually felt the same
@based tadge
10.2 now.
almost 15k now. Gettin' there.
101k in 2023
5:00 great observation with the symmetry of buildings and music connection, I’ll never see architecture the same, amazing video!
RUclips really became a good place for education if you want it to be that.There are incredebly good channels about maths,biology etc but i always was a bit sad about the lack of classical music edjucation especially when there are 1000 videos about how to play the riff of some rock song that has 3 notes in it.There are so many possibilitiese.g.:visualisation,explaining forms or single pieces or composers .Anyways,thank you, i really enjoyed this well made video and hope ,as the channel is pretty young,that there will be more in the future :)
Yes, there are incredebly so many possibilitiese.g.: of edjucation.
Yes. I’m making a series of videos on Classical Music myself. I call the series Analysis from the Arranger’s Perspective and I plan on going over how I went about arranging the piece obviously, like how I decided on the instrumentation and things like that and I also plan on going over why I find some composers easier to arrange than others. And of course I will show the arrangement. The introduction video is out, now I just need to decide on which Mozart piece to arrange for the first arrangement video. On an earlier poll I made (not in community tab because I don’t have a yet) more people voted for Sonata than the other options, so now I’m just down to deciding on which sonata to arrange.
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Very well explained! Love the music and the background video!! Thanx!
I was amazed to the architecture! Wow! He IS SUCH A GENIUS! By that little piece of artwork, it made us understand more what RONDO is🖤😖 thank you🤝☺️
There has never been a bad upload on this channel
An EXTREMELY helpful video. Thank you so much!
This was extremely well done. Great work
Note that the ABACABA form has, itself, the ABA form. More explicitly put, consider the (ABA)C(ABA) form.
It might be amusing to examine some of the extant former forms to discover if B and C are related to A. That is, upon first glance, a musical piece that appears to be as simple as ABACABA might, upon closer inspection actually be aaa(aba)aaa(aca)aaa(aba)aaa for example.
Your video is a pleasure, by the way -- both visually and aurally!
Of course you are pretentious and pseudo-intellectual, your name is Wigglesworth.
Amazing video, thank you for making these
"Abacaba" just conjures the image of Wisdom Dog memes
Looking forward to more of these 'form' videos. Sonata etc. Thanks
this channel is simply incredile!
It is an interesting way to explain the concept of art.
It is amazing how architecture can be connected to music that way. Actually, it is amazing how all the arts can be connected. Do you think is intentional, or an unconscious human tendance? (sorry, my english is not very good)
Most definitely intentional.
At least a few hundred years ago.
Also, in the classical period, the A section is always presented in the main key of the piece, while the episodes are in closely related keys (or modulate several times).
the second (final) A B were both in the same key ?
skyline That is typical for the second B section to be recapitulated in the tonic key.
@@caterscarrots3407 yeah they just play around with similarities towards the melodies, thank you so much for your answer. Have you learned anything related, that awed your mind? This is pretty simple
@@caterscarrots3407 what about the length of Rondo segmets? Do they have to be about the same length or can B be significantly longer for example? Also, can composer use "bridges" between segments or no?
@@krzysztofq7420 Early on in the Classical period, the segments of a rondo are indeed roughly the same length. As time goes on though, the rondo as a whole expands in scope and the C section in particular tends to get longer than the A and B sections as a development section of sorts. And yes, composers can use bridges between segments of a rondo. Beethoven I know to be one composer in particular that uses bridges between segments of some of his rondos. This is particularly noticeable when transitioning from contrasting material back to the A section. Here are a few examples that show how the rondo has progressed over the years
ruclips.net/video/317LBGFeds8/видео.html - Haydn's Gypsy Rondo, segments are roughly the same length
ruclips.net/video/TiGKnxAnee0/видео.html - Rondo from Mozart's Piano Sonata in Bb major, it starts out similarly to the Haydn example, but the C section is longer, starting with a development of the B theme, going to contrasting material, and then ending with a development of the A theme. An Exposition/Recapitulation type of asymmetry also shows up in this rondo with the second to last B section twisting into a cadenza, Rondo starts to resemble Sonata form more
ruclips.net/video/Ifj8dwuAzAQ/видео.html - Pathetique Sonata Rondo, In Beethoven's rondos, including this one, the bridges between sections of the rondo start to show up on a regular basis. Likewise, Beethoven takes the development section within a rondo that shows up in later Mozart works and makes it the norm, really merging the sonata and the rondo into a single Sonata-Rondo form
ruclips.net/video/L6nLtGcYozU/видео.html - Rondo from Brahms' Piano Quartet in G minor, Each section is more expansive than even the Beethoven example and often separates into 2 subsections. Bridges between and within sections occur here. Like the first example, this Rondo is also in the Hungarian or Gypsy style.
As you can see from these 4 examples, the Rondo goes from being roughly equal to having a definite asymmetry and more development, becoming like Sonata Form in many ways. And the bridges go from almost nonexistent to definitely being present.
Before you watch the video read this comment; A Rondo is a work that has repeating sections with the first section repeating the most and the being the last section. A common form of this is A-B-A-C-A-B-A If the letter act as an algebraic representation for sections in a song.
I would add another form of rondo to the list of forms that you have and the first Mozart example you have, Rondo alla Turka, is a good example of what I would call an Episode First rondo, as it’s the A major theme, the C theme that feels like the main theme or the refrain, whereas the A theme, the A minor theme at the start of the rondo only appears one more time in the rondo.
Amazing video! I love the way you explained everything and I hope nothing but growth for your channel, I also have a question... what is the name of the pice in the background of the video at 2:50?
Oh, sorry I did not read the description before asking, have a nice day!
Thank you for making this video!
I enjoyed watching this video my 4th grader found to help her and I understand what a Rondo is in music so she can write her own.
Great Video, Great Topic, Great Video, Well Expressed, Great Video, Great Topic, Great Video.
Another excellent presentation. (Nice to hear the Beethoven D Major in the background. Not a rondo....) Thanks again.
Thanks, stay tuned.
your video is perfect. But i have one question. I want to compose my own rondo with its classic form. A theme can be slightly change? For example turning the A theme's melody from major into minor?
Hey, please upload your Rondo to RUclips when you finish!
Wait aren't you the guy at 1:30
Yes, I’d say that you can change the A theme slightly, that’s actually more common than having an exact repetition of the A theme.
Wow, what a quote.
me when the rondo is asynchronous
Please do one about the sonata
Wasnt it Goethe who said architecture is frozen music? Thanks for the video 👍🙏
It’s misattributed
Very good!
Very good channel, thanks 👌
Well done
Yes
Very interesting video, thank you.
I thought it was Goethe who first made that remark about architecture being frozen music. '"Conversations with Eckermann" (1829)?
Yes, as did I. It’s incorrectly attributed to him, or at least he wasn’t the first to say it. Who knows, Schelling might not have been the first to say it either.
Amazing video! I LOVED the connection to architecture and literature!! By the way if anyone is curious about the awesome handwritten style font, it's "Opera Lyrics Smooth"
I have Rondo form as I ate too much cake during lockdown
Thanks, amazing explanation!
101 comment and omg this vid was so helpful😌this deserves a subb
This was so helpful since I was really confused
I compose and Rondo form is my absolute favorite form! :)
Thank you
Interesting!
Wow just wow!!!
Thanks a lot sir
You deserve much more subs
Thank you!
Keep it up
Thank you
Thanks for the great video. I think it's really useful for someone who studies classic music. I am practicing a rondo of Mozart recently.
May I share this video and the one about la folia to bilibili?
If I can get the permit, I will definitely prepare the Chinese caption and label the RUclips channel where I found them.
your German pronunciation is on point
I like it
Ty sir
What form is ABCD?
That’s subscribe from me my man
Fantástico
Thanx u alot
Al Jarreau gave us the rondo of ❤️
Here i was thinking a rondo needed to be played as a dance😢
Im not clear on what it is...
basically ABACAB by phill collins
@@fucktardickis xD
Black Swan and Acheron brought me here.
I'm so sorry and this is a fantastic video that's really helped me a lot. But you sound EXACTLY like Pinky from Pinky and the Brain. Seriously though man, great job! I love your videos!
Don’t you mean Brain?
I love learning Music 😍 and by the way the speaker's voice sounds like Alan Rickman's you know Snape in Harry Potter
I thought he sounded like alex standall from 13 reasons why
That’s WHAT a rondo is..
but if you wanna know WHO Rondo is? You better ask somebody
Wow
👍
Genisis
le rondeau français était une danse de groupes et de solistes !
Oui je pense que je connais la danse, elle s'appelle "Round Dance" en Anglais.
Dude said broke
Abaca
A B A C A D A could also be a Rondo
you does mean la si do la so la si la .you are talking about classical music no letter notation please
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today is the 31.12.2024
after getting high on pot haha
i got the great idea
of a presentation that is going to change eveything for the better
you ll all hear about it soon
it will be on the 23.01.2025
i put mein name un das thema
Shleer O. -ARCHITEKTUR IST ERSTARRTE MUSIK.
I compose and Rondo form is my absolute favorite form! :)
When?
Mine too, most of my pieces subconsciously end up in Rondo form or Sonata Form, even my dance type pieces gravitate towards the Rondo.
@@caterscarrots3407 Rondo is definitively a very special form, its somehow both sophisticated and simple, flamboyant and subdued, and definitively has that "je ne sais quoi" attraction to it, not surprised to learn its rooted in French style...After all, a circle is the "perfect" form...
Thank you