To quote you, only this includes the episode And the reaction: "Utterly adored it." I do find it interesting that the show has to Constantly remind us that Spike doesn't have a soul and won't always do the right thing, no matter how he cares for Buffy, he's hurting her and she's hurting him, it needed to end. Wife was awesome. Loved that scar analogy. I was glad to see Riley help Buffy see who she is as his leaving is part of why she forgot back in season 5. It was a good amends. And he's right, we forget who we are and assume what happens to us isn't who we are and what we chose is isn't always who we are, if it makes us unhappy or we're hurting someone (like having used Spike or not been there for family like Dawn), we can always chose differently and reclaim ourselves, and restore others where possible (being kind enough to be frank and call him William). The Xander and Anya stuff was nice. I think given what he said, maybe they should have eloped? Least it's what I would do.
Liam, I came by your videos by chance after watching a Buffy youtube vid that someone posted. I have to say your truly authentic reactions have me remembering back to when I first saw them back in the day. Just wait until the end of this season. Dude, it's gonna be rough.
Agreed.....a fantastic piece of closure for Riley's character, his wife was a lush addition, Buffy and Spike had a great moment of ending things in a respectful way....a welcome surprise! X
@jockadoobee Uh, you do know that asking your sexual partner for sex *isn't* sexual assault, right? In fact, she openly admits to just using him, which could be an assault in itself.
I was pretty indifferent towards Riley when him and Buffy were together, but I loved him in this. He helped Buffy finally remember who she was - a hell of a woman - and it helped her to start finally pulling out of her depression. His, “The wheel never stops turning, Buffy. You're up. You're down...” is a quote I often think about when I’m going through a tough time.
I love how Riley reminded Buffy who she really is, she's a hell of a woman ♥️ And the end scene between Buffy and Spike is one of my favourite scenes of season 6.. Buffy ending things with him and walking out into the light is a sign that she's finally starting to come out of her depression..
How you could get hate from anyone is beyond me. You are the sweetest, funniest, most wholesome reactor on RUclips. In short, my dear Liam, you are MY cinnamon roll
As a Buffy and Angel fan, but also someone who didn't hate Riley at all, I thought his addition in this series was absolutely wonderful. That Riley should be the person to put Buffy back on track is absolutely perfect. He was always straight and narrow guy, and this 11th hour guidance he gives Buffy is pure joy.
Great reaction and I totally agree about Riley! I used to be a hater when I first watched Buffy.. but on my current rewatch, I came to appreciate him a lot more.. and this episode showed how much he has really matured. His appearance was everything that Buffy needed too.. it brought back the old Buffy I knew. A lot of words of wisdom in this video 👍
I love how the camera pushes in on Buffy outside the Magic Box. It's a small moment, but one of my favorites. You can see it in Buffy's eyes: she is profoundly affected by what Riley said to her. It's a pivotal moment for her. I absolutely adore Buffy's depression arc. It's so fucking well done.
@@genevieveking5078 Hmm, I'm racking my brain for specifics so it's kind of a pity I'm going to forget some here but Clannad and especially after story is the first one that comes to mind in terms of on par with this. I'd say where but massive spoilers. To this day though I debate which did it better, the movie or season 2 which is essentially the movie without magic. I like the lesson in the movie but the sci-fi element explains so much and ties the show together so well that I think I lean towards that. Hanasekeru has a suicide arc, madness, trauma all sorts of political intrigue, who knew as it started out with a silly rich girl 'marriage game's but yeah, fate of country behind that crap. In live action, well the whole world is depressed in Dark Angel but somehow it really shows the light even with Cameron who Whedon'ed long before we had a Whedon. I also recall Eureka starts out seeming like a comedy, like Buffy but swiftly becomes something real and Henry's arc was interesting in that way. Though I feel they rushed the recovery, even though I love that episode, more clues would have been nice. Babylon 5 and Umbrella Academy are all perspective but I'd say how they do various types of trauma is more like a present you have to unwrap and watch a few times to fully grasp. Fruits Basket is similar although more a family show, it really isn't afraid to go for the pain and the serious turning points. There's a rain scene that to this day makes me ball. New version hasn't done season 2 yet but it better do that justice. The Twelve Kingdoms more covers the dangers of giving into fear, blame and self pity and healing in the process. But that's if you can survive before the rat shows up. Like 5-6 episodes of Why am I watching this? And you have to be able to take in a whole bunch of world building. I know there's more but that's all I got off the top of my head. But in terms of full, obvious depression arcs, Clannad, which is interesting for something with so much anime humor. But then Buffy starts with camp so you never know. Anywho hope that helps.
Barbara Baker I wasn’t expecting a long comment reply. But thanks for taking that effort and I’ve never heard of those shows. The only other one I can think of is American Horror Story that had a character in season 1 going through some depression. But I didn’t like it as much.
What I like about Sam is how she feels like a character who's went through a lot yet we know nothing about her past. Just the writing and acting gives you this vibe that she's had events in her past that caused her to be this way, rather than her always just having this honesty and expressiveness all her life.
I do love the closure that this episode brings. Willow's pretend hate of Riley's wife is amazing. Buffy breaking up with Spike is done so well. Not my favorite episode, but it's a good one.
Does anyone else think he looks like Mark Jindrak, the pro wrestler? My nephew thought they were the same person when this first aired because they were on TV at the same time.
You are the best and most genuine Buffy reactor out there and especially because of your in depth critiques! No one else does it. Ur awesome keep it up.
Lorne would have been very useful in season six of Buffy. If he had been in Sunnydale during Once More With Feeling, I think he could have sorted out everyone's problems in just one episode.
I doubt it considering he was trying to convince Angel, who is immortal and will turn literally evil if he's too happy, to be romantically involved with Cordelia. The entire reason he moved to LA was because he can't be in a romantic relationship.
this version of riley was the best version of riley. he matured a lot in not judging buffy for being with spike and for giving her that speech knowing she needed it. so even though i am generally a huge hater of riley, i actually love him in this episode.
Loved this closure for Buffy and Riley too. Grate episode! The only tiny little extra thing I wanted too was the conversation between Buffy and Riley, about Joyce; because there is no way he didn't ask. But I do get that for the flow and time of the episode, they might have had to leave it as an off-screen conversation in the car. I think the scar is more to show that he's had stories and a reminder that he does live a dangerous life. Sam is definitely cool. 🖤
I still don't like Riley, although he was better here than he was in season 5, but he was still kinda shitty to not communicate with her very simple things like "don't kill the demon" and "I'm married now". Honestly. His wife is way too good for him but I do think she's awesome. Riley does seem to have grown as a person which is good and about time.
Love this episode! and I LOVE your reaction! Seeing Riley and his wife was so refreshing, a good wakeup call for Buffy. Willow's the best friend ever! Poor Spikey, though.. Like you said, it was probably for the best to end things with him.
I'm glad you enjoyed it that much! Willow is so hilariously awesome in this one aha. Also that ending is so perfectly perfect, one big footstep for Buffy.
Great episode. He needed to come back for Buffy's growth. I love anytime that Spike gets called William, it shows his human side. Other than Angel he is the most human of the vampires.
This episode was needed honestly and I’m glad you liked it especially the whole Willow playing the typical “chick flick Best friend” role. I knew you’d find that hilarious. 🤣 Can’t wait to see this on Patreon when I get some more free time. Gosh, we are getting close to the end of S6. My gosh🤐
@TJ sorry its funny and adorable, she is there to support buffy first and foremost even if it means pretending to hate someone to make her feel better and as its right after a nice sweet fairwell moment it just snaps you back out of it and stops it getting to sickly sweet
Hello from France ! NO SPOILERS AHEAD : ) Your reaction videos to Buffy is really my joy during the lockdown ! Seeing your genuine reactions to my favorite show in the world feels like I finally convinced a friend of mine to watch it with me. So thank you ! Can't wait to see the next one
I still think the Doctor plot is a weird one - how on EARTH am I supposed to believe Spike is essentially an international demons dealer? And why would he use a codename like “Doctor” when “Doc” last season is the villain he couldn’t defeat that lead to Buffy’s death? I know why the plot needed to happen but like - why were those the details lmao?
Agreed, Liam. I really enjoy this episode. I really like seeing Riley again, and I LOVE his wife Sam, she's amazing. While Riley isn't one of my favorite characters, I don't hate or dislike him at all. I think Riley gets a lot of unnecessary hate. This episode was great for closure between Riley & Buffy (and apparently Riley & Dawn). It was really cute to see Riley and Sam provide Xander & Anya some wedding tips lol so fun. Can't wait for the remaining Season 6 reactions!
For me this ep was fairly run-of-the-mill, but I can't see why anyone would mind your loving it! I'm glad they tied a bow on the whole Riley thing: I didn't dislike him, but his character became redundant to the plot. I think this was a sweet bit of closure, as you said.
Knowing how this season ends makes me excited for you to experience it! It was phenomenal and shocking and everything in between. Love your reactions. Keep the Buffy ones coming :-)
Is anyone going to believe that demon is a bear? The disposable camera idea was a good one, but very much of its time, before phone cameras. Sam Finn is nice, it's a shame she doesn't stick around. That's a highly explosive grenade!
I really like this one as Riley and Sam are wholesome. Yes, we need Sam's openness and honesty right now. Riley appearing in Buffy's life now, is a great reminder of who she was and who she can be again.
I’ve always loved the takeaway for Buffy with this episode, too. 🙂 Life can remind you in several different ways why you’re not doing the best job..but it only takes one person to remind you how to change it. Usually, it’s who you least expect. And in the middle of Season 6’s reputation as a downer, that moment was a genuinely healthy one. Glad you enjoyed it so much, and I’m glad you have such an unwavering appreciation for the good bits in this show. Super refreshing. ☺️
Am I the only one who finds the whole situation of Buffy being in a low-paying job and treated like crap by others darkly hilarious? The scene where the vamp doesn't want to eat her because she smells like fast food is such a frikking hilarious low point lol. I think SMG brings the humor out of the situation so well. There's till some *spark* to Buffy even when she's depressed.
Yes, I enjoy the Doublemeat Palace part of the series more now that I'm older. It's funny how as teens, we never think about where money comes from, and then in our 20s, we suddenly have to pay for our basic needs. My one problem is why doesn't Willow contribute? She's never shown working or helping with finances. Does she live at Buffy's for free?
@@SessVlogs I wish I knew. The worse thing is they took my son's nappy bag. It looks like a back pack so chances are they had no idea what they were taking. Waking up to no wipes and a good chunk of his nappies gone wasn't a great start to the day.
I love this episode too! I used to be a Riley hater when I was younger, but changed my mind the older I got and started appreciating his character a lot more
I have an unpopular opinion but I always liked Riley. He was good for Buffy even though she wasn’t ready for the serious relationship that he was wanting
Is that why it didn't work out? I don't think it was about the seriousness of the relationship, more than Buffy did not feel the same way about Riley as he did about her.
I think it's safe to say i like Riley but never loved him. And just like with Angel when they are away from Buffy they mare much more intrresting. The feels the need to nerf the guys so they don't overshadow buffy
I like Riley and honestly don't think the majority of the hate he gets is warranted. Although I also like Dawn and lots of other characters that are heavily hated for what I think is really no reason
Good for Buffy? Was it really good for Buffy to be constantly reminded how she's a freak that will make men feel threatened because they're not as strong as her? Riley was garbage.
StormWolf I disagree. He wasn’t garbage. Spike is garbage. And yes. It’s expected because he is a vampire but Riley and Buffy’s relationship was not as bad as the relationship Buffy had with Spike it was extremely destructive and abusive. Riley made bad choices and had different believes that did not agree with many and he wasn’t used to a women being stronger than him but he wasn’t garbage.
So weird, when I first watched this 15 or so years ago I was bored by the episode and with Riley. But I was so invested and interested in it this time. It was a joy to see Riley and Buffy being adults, and see Buffy feeling and giving affection and growing, even letting go of Spike in an empathetic way.
That's interesting. This is definitely a very adult episode, dealing with adult themes in a respectful and grownup way. I wonder if those that watched this as kids or teens would have gotten something different out of it.
I felt this way about the majority of season 6 first time round it took me getting older and learning about real adult life to appreciate how great this season was
Heyyy Honestly! I saw your video about two months ago and that made me want to watch Buffy again I finished the entire series in two months for like the 10th time 😂 You made me remember why I loved it so much So thank you! Honestly I’m excited for you to watch the rest of the season but a little scared 😂 Good luck!!
I hold my breath as the next few episodes build to the climax for this season. I hope that you keep bingeing them and don't have to wait a couple of weeks.
I really enjoyed your reaction. I love this episode too. Stay strong and keep having your own opinions, no matter what others say. It's each persons right to experience the show in their own way, to feel and think about it exactly as they do. We're here to experience the world from our individual point of view. On the internet there are a lot of people who think there's only one right way to see things, but there's not. Perspectives and values differ and often they change over time. And not to forget, there's not only mind but also heart and soul, and sometimes what we like, what gives us joy, can't be explained by mind. And it doesn't need to be. You're doing great.
I think the scar was just to emphasise that like Buffy he has a dangerous job and he can still get hurt and to let you know that he hasn't just been in cryo sleep up until now. Like in the wish when Buffy showed up and she was scarred, that might have been to make her look cooler, but with Riley I think it was just making the world feel fleshed out.
Bruh Liam comin thru with the content like a hero. I'm about to go stand outside and clap for you!! 😭 (I was so bored I was gonna die then notification lmao)
I hate Riley but I love this episode. TBF I love most of them. It was hilarious the first time I watched Banshee and saw Sam(Ivana Milicevic) Buffy actors pop up everywhere. Which I love.
None of which was Buffy's fault. It was the year he found out his mentor was a villain, he was being poisoned & experimented on, his profession was greyer than he knew and ended up quitting, his best friend was killed, had surgery, etc. Buffy was always there for him and was a good girlfriend. She just didn't see him as the love of her life.
Buffy is also a better person with out Riley. Maybe not at the moment but that’s beyond Riley. Riley was not secure enough to be with Buffy and it was never gonna work.
@@lightgivener I think you mean season 5. He left in Into the Woods (5x10). In s5, Buffy has Riley attend her wounds, sit by her side for hours in the hospital as she waits for news about her mom, help her pack up her dorm room, babysit her little sister, etc. She thanked & rewarded him whenever she wanted to show her appreciation "you're like the god of boyfriends" "there could be outfits". They go to the beach with her friends, watch movies on a double date, go with her friends to apartment shop, attend Tara's birthday party, and he's at each Scooby meeting. She convinced him to get heart surgery and told him she needs him. Giles was the only one she told about Dawn being The Key until Blood Ties, 4 months after discovering it. She wasn't even going to tell her mom but the brain tumor led to realizing some of it herself.
@@lightgivener I agree. She never let him in. When Joyce was sick, she kept him at the loop when he wanted to support her and be part of the family unit.
I've said this before, but I love that you like Riley! I think this is one the strongest of the middle part of season 6. Unlike some other episodes I like the execution and the very "real life sucks" aspect of it, and the closure for Riley is satisfying. It's really nice to see Marc Blucas again.
I always felt conflicted in this episode because Buffy and Spike do have some super sweet moments (I'm never over how tenderly he cups her hands after he finds out she crawled out her grave) because Spike always has loved deep but he is still a monster, and so whilst I love the more tender moments because it's nice to see Buffy have someone adore her and not be someone she chases- when Buffy breaks up with him I can't help wanting her to walk away because they've walked a good line of showing that their relationship isn't healthy even though Buffy is craving it. I love Sam because I feel like it shows what a healthy person in this world can be and that's what gives Buffy strength in this episode- maybe everything isn't doomed she's just not in the right place yet.
Does Willow contribute financially? She's never shown to have a job or helping with bills. Does she live at Buffy's for free? I enjoy the Doublemeat Palace part of the series more now that I'm older. As teens, we never think about where money comes from, and then in our 20s, we suddenly have to pay for our basic needs. It makes you appreciate what your parents used to handle.
I can buy Spike being the doctor if the reason is him trying to get money for Buffy. The problem is the show never says that's the reason. Other than that, I like this episode just fine. I appreciate the closure with Riley.
Wow I didn't recognize the actress who played Sam is Diyoza from the 100. She look so young in this episode and you recognized her right away that is incredible. :)
I really loved this episode. I loved the bit about Spike still being up to no good. It's easy to forget with the chip and Spike being lovey-dovey with Buffy and friends with Dawn, but he doesn't have a soul. He's not a good man.
Here is a really good interview with Sarah by British talk show host Richard Blackwood, which was made during the making of this episode. ruclips.net/video/znb3l6hIbqA/видео.html
I'm very late to this but I just wanted to put out a theory about why Spike dealt with those eggs as it seemed so out of nowhere and didn't really fit his character at that point of the series. But in Doublemeat Palace he tells Buffy he can get her Money so she can quit her job and suddenly he's dealing with those eggs? It would fit so much if Spike, in his twisted thinking, thought this was a good way to help Buffy. It's dangerous and really not a good idea but we all know Spike's ideas are usually not great, no matter the intention.
I like Riley's wife too. I like this episode a lot and it was good for Buffy to get some closure. I think Riley and his wife worked so well together. I never hated or really disliked him aside from his actions with the vamp girls. I thought he was Buffy's healthiest relationship and I was glad to see him again. He and his wife balance so well that I liked him even more this episode.
I have seen all of these on Patreon. It would be a shame if the RUclips Algorithm missed out... Going through all of these videos makes me realize how many hours of entertainment you have provided to me. Thank you again Liam. Well deserved success and long may it continue. I will miss the anticipation of seeing your reaction to a Buffy episode, but there are a few Angel ones left, so all hope is not lost :-)
I'm unsure if self-isolation has reduced my sense of humor to chunky salsa or if Liam was just especially quippy this video. Anyways here are some Liam funnies I think you should watch again: 2:52, 3:10, 7:28
One detail I liked was how in the end scene, Buffy hair and style seem to evoke her Season 2 self, as if she had become her old self again but looking forward.
I wish there was more in the last conversation with her and Spike, maybe him explaining why he was trying to make money, and her explaining herself better. It feels so rushed to me. He says earlier that she knows who he is, but she doesn’t explain that it really is her issue and that there isn’t anything he can do. They had such a lovely friendship at the start of the season and it’s disappointing that the writers were like nah fuck that forget about that lol. Just think the writing could have been better
Looking back on this, it’s a good episode. And needed, not just for the closure for Buffy with Riley, but giving her the ability to have the strength to end things with Spike.
I never noticed this before. What a difference from Buffy walking into the sun after confessing where she was to Spike to here where she’s ready to get back into her life again.
@@sarahxo2317, I take it you noticed Buffy climbed her way out of the ground in the last episode of this season, just like she did in the first episode.
This is an unpopular opinion but I liked Riley too. They ended up writing him into a box which was sad because they could’ve done a lot more interesting things with him. Though saying all that, the show didn’t suffer after he left and this episode was welcome closure.
The problem is that what the writers wanted for Buffy in S4 was a normal boyfriend to contrast with the supernatural high drama of the Angel relationship. The problem is the writers confuse "normal" with "boring". Clark Kent and Captain America have the same archetype, but they're not dull. It seems like the writers just missed the mark with Riley until the last bit of S5 and this one appearance.
Finally Buffy doing what she should have done since the beginning, end that disgusting and abusive relationship with Spike. Her relationsip with Riley was the healthiest, they had problems but he truly loved her and wanted the best for her. I love his speech at the end, it was the push that she needed to take the right path again.
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To quote you, only this includes the episode And the reaction: "Utterly adored it."
I do find it interesting that the show has to Constantly remind us that Spike doesn't have a soul and won't always do the right thing, no matter how he cares for Buffy, he's hurting her and she's hurting him, it needed to end.
Wife was awesome. Loved that scar analogy. I was glad to see Riley help Buffy see who she is as his leaving is part of why she forgot back in season 5. It was a good amends. And he's right, we forget who we are and assume what happens to us isn't who we are and what we chose is isn't always who we are, if it makes us unhappy or we're hurting someone (like having used Spike or not been there for family like Dawn), we can always chose differently and reclaim ourselves, and restore others where possible (being kind enough to be frank and call him William).
The Xander and Anya stuff was nice. I think given what he said, maybe they should have eloped? Least it's what I would do.
Liam, I came by your videos by chance after watching a Buffy youtube vid that someone posted. I have to say your truly authentic reactions have me remembering back to when I first saw them back in the day. Just wait until the end of this season. Dude, it's gonna be rough.
Buffy not telling Riley that she came after him shows how big of a person she is, even while she's going through the worst period of her life.
That was good of her.
Yes so well said and very true.... Quite, the humility. 👏🏽🧡👏🏽 #LoveMeSomeBuffy
Agreed.....a fantastic piece of closure for Riley's character, his wife was a lush addition, Buffy and Spike had a great moment of ending things in a respectful way....a welcome surprise! X
Riley: "Are you coming?"
Liam: "She just did!"
Me: *dead* 🤣🙈
Liam never misses us a sex pun when it's available LOL
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I love Buffy's respectful way of ending things with Spike. The use of his real name and how gentle she is about it.
@jockadoobee "repeatedly sexually assaulting" When?
Olivia Rivera Exactly. I’d say it’s closer to the other way around.
@jockadoobee she was a willing participant
@jockadoobee I believe at this point everything has been consensual.
@jockadoobee Uh, you do know that asking your sexual partner for sex *isn't* sexual assault, right? In fact, she openly admits to just using him, which could be an assault in itself.
I was pretty indifferent towards Riley when him and Buffy were together, but I loved him in this. He helped Buffy finally remember who she was - a hell of a woman - and it helped her to start finally pulling out of her depression. His, “The wheel never stops turning, Buffy. You're up. You're down...” is a quote I often think about when I’m going through a tough time.
"He's got a scar, cause he's more interesting now."
@@quinnsinclair7028 And how quickly that sarcastic reaction was taken back.
“I didn’t know I wanted this closure.”
YES!
"What a bitch." In such a dramatic season for Willow, this episode has some great comedic moments for her.
I love how Riley reminded Buffy who she really is, she's a hell of a woman ♥️ And the end scene between Buffy and Spike is one of my favourite scenes of season 6.. Buffy ending things with him and walking out into the light is a sign that she's finally starting to come out of her depression..
i wish they had a moment to explicitly mention that Spike was selling the eggs to get money for Buffy so she didnt have to work that job anymore.
How you could get hate from anyone is beyond me. You are the sweetest, funniest, most wholesome reactor on RUclips.
In short, my dear Liam, you are MY cinnamon roll
**Correction** - 'Our' Cinnamon Roll! :D
Of course. Forgive me. There's more than enough Liam for all of us :D
Agreed, and beside, he's obviously loved. 168 comments in one hour. So proud of our cinnamon roll!
Hear hear! And so say all of us!! 😁❤️✌️🤘🖖
As a Buffy and Angel fan, but also someone who didn't hate Riley at all, I thought his addition in this series was absolutely wonderful. That Riley should be the person to put Buffy back on track is absolutely perfect. He was always straight and narrow guy, and this 11th hour guidance he gives Buffy is pure joy.
Great reaction and I totally agree about Riley! I used to be a hater when I first watched Buffy.. but on my current rewatch, I came to appreciate him a lot more.. and this episode showed how much he has really matured. His appearance was everything that Buffy needed too.. it brought back the old Buffy I knew. A lot of words of wisdom in this video 👍
I love how the camera pushes in on Buffy outside the Magic Box. It's a small moment, but one of my favorites. You can see it in Buffy's eyes: she is profoundly affected by what Riley said to her. It's a pivotal moment for her.
I absolutely adore Buffy's depression arc. It's so fucking well done.
One of the best I've seen.
Yes and I haven't seen other tv shows do much with depression to compare.
@@genevieveking5078 Hmm, I'm racking my brain for specifics so it's kind of a pity I'm going to forget some here but Clannad and especially after story is the first one that comes to mind in terms of on par with this. I'd say where but massive spoilers. To this day though I debate which did it better, the movie or season 2 which is essentially the movie without magic. I like the lesson in the movie but the sci-fi element explains so much and ties the show together so well that I think I lean towards that. Hanasekeru has a suicide arc, madness, trauma all sorts of political intrigue, who knew as it started out with a silly rich girl 'marriage game's but yeah, fate of country behind that crap.
In live action, well the whole world is depressed in Dark Angel but somehow it really shows the light even with Cameron who Whedon'ed long before we had a Whedon. I also recall Eureka starts out seeming like a comedy, like Buffy but swiftly becomes something real and Henry's arc was interesting in that way. Though I feel they rushed the recovery, even though I love that episode, more clues would have been nice.
Babylon 5 and Umbrella Academy are all perspective but I'd say how they do various types of trauma is more like a present you have to unwrap and watch a few times to fully grasp.
Fruits Basket is similar although more a family show, it really isn't afraid to go for the pain and the serious turning points. There's a rain scene that to this day makes me ball. New version hasn't done season 2 yet but it better do that justice.
The Twelve Kingdoms more covers the dangers of giving into fear, blame and self pity and healing in the process. But that's if you can survive before the rat shows up. Like 5-6 episodes of Why am I watching this? And you have to be able to take in a whole bunch of world building.
I know there's more but that's all I got off the top of my head. But in terms of full, obvious depression arcs, Clannad, which is interesting for something with so much anime humor. But then Buffy starts with camp so you never know.
Anywho hope that helps.
Barbara Baker I wasn’t expecting a long comment reply. But thanks for taking that effort and I’ve never heard of those shows. The only other one I can think of is American Horror Story that had a character in season 1 going through some depression. But I didn’t like it as much.
I think the show got better after Riley left in season 6 episode 15 from there it got better she got out of her depression came back to her self
What I like about Sam is how she feels like a character who's went through a lot yet we know nothing about her past. Just the writing and acting gives you this vibe that she's had events in her past that caused her to be this way, rather than her always just having this honesty and expressiveness all her life.
I do love the closure that this episode brings. Willow's pretend hate of Riley's wife is amazing. Buffy breaking up with Spike is done so well. Not my favorite episode, but it's a good one.
It's so nice to see all of this appreciation for Riley. He deserves the love, especially in this episode.
Does anyone else think he looks like Mark Jindrak, the pro wrestler? My nephew thought they were the same person when this first aired because they were on TV at the same time.
Years from now, when I think about the 2020 quarantine, your face will come to mind.
"so what what were you doing during the deadly pandemic?"
I watched other people watch TV.
One of my favorite s6 episodes. I've always loved Riley, and I love LOVE that he's the one to remind Buffy that she's so strong.
I love Riley too 😊.
I looove this episode. It was great to have Riley back. It felt like the good old times. And it certainly was the wake up call Buffy needed.
I mean Spike is the only character with a British accent atm. He had to be the Doctor. 😂
You are the best and most genuine Buffy reactor out there and especially because of your in depth critiques! No one else does it. Ur awesome keep it up.
My favorite part is at the end where she steps into the light. Like she’s ready to start something new.
Lorne would have been very useful in season six of Buffy. If he had been in Sunnydale during Once More With Feeling, I think he could have sorted out everyone's problems in just one episode.
Oooooh that sounds amazing
His head probably would have exploded, though...
I doubt it considering he was trying to convince Angel, who is immortal and will turn literally evil if he's too happy, to be romantically involved with Cordelia. The entire reason he moved to LA was because he can't be in a romantic relationship.
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this version of riley was the best version of riley. he matured a lot in not judging buffy for being with spike and for giving her that speech knowing she needed it. so even though i am generally a huge hater of riley, i actually love him in this episode.
At least she didn't say "you're beneath me".
That's cuz she's usually beneath him! :D
@@jacobmielke1223 I was about to be offended on Buffy's behalf until I realized you meant sexually. Carry on.
Loved this closure for Buffy and Riley too. Grate episode!
The only tiny little extra thing I wanted too was the conversation between Buffy and Riley, about Joyce; because there is no way he didn't ask. But I do get that for the flow and time of the episode, they might have had to leave it as an off-screen conversation in the car.
I think the scar is more to show that he's had stories and a reminder that he does live a dangerous life.
Sam is definitely cool. 🖤
I still don't like Riley, although he was better here than he was in season 5, but he was still kinda shitty to not communicate with her very simple things like "don't kill the demon" and "I'm married now". Honestly. His wife is way too good for him but I do think she's awesome. Riley does seem to have grown as a person which is good and about time.
Liam punning with a straight face is hilarious cause it takes my brain a second to register it and then it hits full terrible horrible force 🤣
Sam talking the Hellmouth into destroying itself would be such a great episode xD
The end shot is Buffy figuratively & literally stepping into the light.
This is one of my favs in the season...her interactions with Riley and how she sees her life in comparison to his is really tragic but beautiful!!
Love this episode! and I LOVE your reaction! Seeing Riley and his wife was so refreshing, a good wakeup call for Buffy. Willow's the best friend ever! Poor Spikey, though.. Like you said, it was probably for the best to end things with him.
"He's been hammering something else into her"
Thank you Liam. Your vids are so entertaining. Appreciate it so much. Your humor & warmth comes through.
I'm glad you enjoyed it that much! Willow is so hilariously awesome in this one aha. Also that ending is so perfectly perfect, one big footstep for Buffy.
And I love the way she looks like season 2 Buffy. It's like she is trying to get back to feeling like herself again.
@@ryanlemay6296 Yeah i thought that too ;) She does look really great in that ending scene !
Great episode. He needed to come back for Buffy's growth.
I love anytime that Spike gets called William, it shows his human side. Other than Angel he is the most human of the vampires.
This episode was needed honestly and I’m glad you liked it especially the whole Willow playing the typical “chick flick Best friend” role. I knew you’d find that hilarious. 🤣 Can’t wait to see this on Patreon when I get some more free time.
Gosh, we are getting close to the end of S6. My gosh🤐
i can hardly contain myself for the end of this season🤐
@TJ sorry its funny and adorable, she is there to support buffy first and foremost even if it means pretending to hate someone to make her feel better and as its right after a nice sweet fairwell moment it just snaps you back out of it and stops it getting to sickly sweet
TJ yeah just you... lol
Hello from France ! NO SPOILERS AHEAD : )
Your reaction videos to Buffy is really my joy during the lockdown !
Seeing your genuine reactions to my favorite show in the world feels like I finally convinced a friend of mine to watch it with me.
So thank you ! Can't wait to see the next one
I still think the Doctor plot is a weird one - how on EARTH am I supposed to believe Spike is essentially an international demons dealer? And why would he use a codename like “Doctor” when “Doc” last season is the villain he couldn’t defeat that lead to Buffy’s death? I know why the plot needed to happen but like - why were those the details lmao?
Also why would he keep them somewhere were buffy would see them?
“Whatta bitch!” love Willow so much!
Agreed, Liam.
I really enjoy this episode. I really like seeing Riley again, and I LOVE his wife Sam, she's amazing.
While Riley isn't one of my favorite characters, I don't hate or dislike him at all. I think Riley gets a lot of unnecessary hate.
This episode was great for closure between Riley & Buffy (and apparently Riley & Dawn). It was really cute to see Riley and Sam provide Xander & Anya some wedding tips lol so fun.
Can't wait for the remaining Season 6 reactions!
For me this ep was fairly run-of-the-mill, but I can't see why anyone would mind your loving it! I'm glad they tied a bow on the whole Riley thing: I didn't dislike him, but his character became redundant to the plot. I think this was a sweet bit of closure, as you said.
Knowing how this season ends makes me excited for you to experience it! It was phenomenal and shocking and everything in between. Love your reactions. Keep the Buffy ones coming :-)
I love that there is absolutely nothing wrong with Sam and willow still makes an effort to "hate" her. Its just what we do its so real life lol
Is anyone going to believe that demon is a bear?
The disposable camera idea was a good one, but very much of its time, before phone cameras. Sam Finn is nice, it's a shame she doesn't stick around.
That's a highly explosive grenade!
I really like this one as Riley and Sam are wholesome. Yes, we need Sam's openness and honesty right now. Riley appearing in Buffy's life now, is a great reminder of who she was and who she can be again.
I still don’t understand why people have so much hate for Riley
I like Riley most when he's not with Buffy, I think. In his initial woo-ing, and now once he's matured a bit and moved on.
I’ve always loved the takeaway for Buffy with this episode, too. 🙂 Life can remind you in several different ways why you’re not doing the best job..but it only takes one person to remind you how to change it. Usually, it’s who you least expect. And in the middle of Season 6’s reputation as a downer, that moment was a genuinely healthy one. Glad you enjoyed it so much, and I’m glad you have such an unwavering appreciation for the good bits in this show. Super refreshing. ☺️
Willow's last line in this one is one of my favorite Willow moments ever, and I haven't been too keen on her since they all graduated high school.
"He's got a scar because he's more interesting now." lol
Am I the only one who finds the whole situation of Buffy being in a low-paying job and treated like crap by others darkly hilarious? The scene where the vamp doesn't want to eat her because she smells like fast food is such a frikking hilarious low point lol. I think SMG brings the humor out of the situation so well. There's till some *spark* to Buffy even when she's depressed.
Yes, I enjoy the Doublemeat Palace part of the series more now that I'm older. It's funny how as teens, we never think about where money comes from, and then in our 20s, we suddenly have to pay for our basic needs. My one problem is why doesn't Willow contribute? She's never shown working or helping with finances. Does she live at Buffy's for free?
Spike's expression when Buffy calls him "William" - speaks volumes! I never liked Riley but he's tolerable in this episode and his wife is great.
LOVED what you said about the Hellmouth giving up because Sam talked to people, and vampires fangirling over being staked by her. So funny LOL
I got robbed last night and this being out 100% made me feel better. You hero.
Jeez, what kind of lowlife robs someone during a pandemic?? I’m so sorry. I hope everything gets better for you.
Omg, I’m so sorry that happened to you. I was robbed years ago too. It’s a horrible feeling. I’m glad Buffy made you feel better.
@@SessVlogs I wish I knew. The worse thing is they took my son's nappy bag. It looks like a back pack so chances are they had no idea what they were taking. Waking up to no wipes and a good chunk of his nappies gone wasn't a great start to the day.
Kaz Kitty What a scummy excuse for a human being! As long as everyone is safe, I suppose that’s the important thing.
That's awful, sorry to hear that. Hope you can get over it quickly and it's great this channel helps you
I love this episode too! I used to be a Riley hater when I was younger, but changed my mind the older I got and started appreciating his character a lot more
Same
I have an unpopular opinion but I always liked Riley. He was good for Buffy even though she wasn’t ready for the serious relationship that he was wanting
Is that why it didn't work out? I don't think it was about the seriousness of the relationship, more than Buffy did not feel the same way about Riley as he did about her.
I think it's safe to say i like Riley but never loved him. And just like with Angel when they are away from Buffy they mare much more intrresting. The feels the need to nerf the guys so they don't overshadow buffy
I like Riley and honestly don't think the majority of the hate he gets is warranted. Although I also like Dawn and lots of other characters that are heavily hated for what I think is really no reason
Good for Buffy? Was it really good for Buffy to be constantly reminded how she's a freak that will make men feel threatened because they're not as strong as her? Riley was garbage.
StormWolf I disagree. He wasn’t garbage. Spike is garbage. And yes. It’s expected because he is a vampire but Riley and Buffy’s relationship was not as bad as the relationship Buffy had with Spike it was extremely destructive and abusive. Riley made bad choices and had different believes that did not agree with many and he wasn’t used to a women being stronger than him but he wasn’t garbage.
So weird, when I first watched this 15 or so years ago I was bored by the episode and with Riley. But I was so invested and interested in it this time. It was a joy to see Riley and Buffy being adults, and see Buffy feeling and giving affection and growing, even letting go of Spike in an empathetic way.
That's interesting. This is definitely a very adult episode, dealing with adult themes in a respectful and grownup way. I wonder if those that watched this as kids or teens would have gotten something different out of it.
I felt this way about the majority of season 6 first time round it took me getting older and learning about real adult life to appreciate how great this season was
Well there are plenty of showa i god bored off when i was younger but when i got older ended up interested in them.
Heyyy
Honestly! I saw your video about two months ago and that made me want to watch Buffy again
I finished the entire series in two months for like the 10th time 😂
You made me remember why I loved it so much
So thank you!
Honestly I’m excited for you to watch the rest of the season but a little scared 😂
Good luck!!
I loved Riley in the episode
I hold my breath as the next few episodes build to the climax for this season. I hope that you keep bingeing them and don't have to wait a couple of weeks.
I really enjoyed your reaction. I love this episode too. Stay strong and keep having your own opinions, no matter what others say. It's each persons right to experience the show in their own way, to feel and think about it exactly as they do. We're here to experience the world from our individual point of view. On the internet there are a lot of people who think there's only one right way to see things, but there's not. Perspectives and values differ and often they change over time.
And not to forget, there's not only mind but also heart and soul, and sometimes what we like, what gives us joy, can't be explained by mind. And it doesn't need to be. You're doing great.
Couldn't have said it better.
My hat has a cow
I think the scar was just to emphasise that like Buffy he has a dangerous job and he can still get hurt and to let you know that he hasn't just been in cryo sleep up until now. Like in the wish when Buffy showed up and she was scarred, that might have been to make her look cooler, but with Riley I think it was just making the world feel fleshed out.
Bruh Liam comin thru with the content like a hero. I'm about to go stand outside and clap for you!! 😭
(I was so bored I was gonna die then notification lmao)
I hate Riley but I love this episode. TBF I love most of them. It was hilarious the first time I watched Banshee and saw Sam(Ivana Milicevic) Buffy actors pop up everywhere. Which I love.
Riley is a better person without Buffy. He was in misery when they were together.
None of which was Buffy's fault. It was the year he found out his mentor was a villain, he was being poisoned & experimented on, his profession was greyer than he knew and ended up quitting, his best friend was killed, had surgery, etc.
Buffy was always there for him and was a good girlfriend. She just didn't see him as the love of her life.
Buffy is also a better person with out Riley. Maybe not at the moment but that’s beyond Riley. Riley was not secure enough to be with Buffy and it was never gonna work.
@@lightgivener I think you mean season 5. He left in Into the Woods (5x10).
In s5, Buffy has Riley attend her wounds, sit by her side for hours in the hospital as she waits for news about her mom, help her pack up her dorm room, babysit her little sister, etc. She thanked & rewarded him whenever she wanted to show her appreciation "you're like the god of boyfriends" "there could be outfits". They go to the beach with her friends, watch movies on a double date, go with her friends to apartment shop, attend Tara's birthday party, and he's at each Scooby meeting. She convinced him to get heart surgery and told him she needs him.
Giles was the only one she told about Dawn being The Key until Blood Ties, 4 months after discovering it. She wasn't even going to tell her mom but the brain tumor led to realizing some of it herself.
@@lightgivener I agree. She never let him in. When Joyce was sick, she kept him at the loop when he wanted to support her and be part of the family unit.
I've said this before, but I love that you like Riley!
I think this is one the strongest of the middle part of season 6. Unlike some other episodes I like the execution and the very "real life sucks" aspect of it, and the closure for Riley is satisfying. It's really nice to see Marc Blucas again.
I always felt conflicted in this episode because Buffy and Spike do have some super sweet moments (I'm never over how tenderly he cups her hands after he finds out she crawled out her grave) because Spike always has loved deep but he is still a monster, and so whilst I love the more tender moments because it's nice to see Buffy have someone adore her and not be someone she chases- when Buffy breaks up with him I can't help wanting her to walk away because they've walked a good line of showing that their relationship isn't healthy even though Buffy is craving it. I love Sam because I feel like it shows what a healthy person in this world can be and that's what gives Buffy strength in this episode- maybe everything isn't doomed she's just not in the right place yet.
Does Willow contribute financially? She's never shown to have a job or helping with bills. Does she live at Buffy's for free? I enjoy the Doublemeat Palace part of the series more now that I'm older. As teens, we never think about where money comes from, and then in our 20s, we suddenly have to pay for our basic needs. It makes you appreciate what your parents used to handle.
I can buy Spike being the doctor if the reason is him trying to get money for Buffy. The problem is the show never says that's the reason. Other than that, I like this episode just fine. I appreciate the closure with Riley.
4:15 This moment with the music makes it look like a soap opera
I love how you like all the episodes I like ! Watching your reactions makes me feel like I’m watching this series for the first time.
DIYOZA! I had the exact same reaction when I saw Diyoza in the 100 for the first time. Omg is that Sam?
I never realized that was Diyoza, I'm so bad at faces XD...
I was so excited to see how you would react to seeing Riley.
Loved your scar comment lol
Great episode! I enjoyed seeing Riley come back, and the closure was so good. I loved Sam Finn too :D
Wow I didn't recognize the actress who played Sam is Diyoza from the 100. She look so young in this episode and you recognized her right away that is incredible. :)
I remember, way back when you started these shows alongside one another, I wondered whether The 100 season 5 or this episode would happen first.
I really loved this episode. I loved the bit about Spike still being up to no good. It's easy to forget with the chip and Spike being lovey-dovey with Buffy and friends with Dawn, but he doesn't have a soul. He's not a good man.
Here is a really good interview with Sarah by British talk show host Richard Blackwood, which was made during the making of this episode. ruclips.net/video/znb3l6hIbqA/видео.html
2:40 Liam, you are adorable
I'm very late to this but I just wanted to put out a theory about why Spike dealt with those eggs as it seemed so out of nowhere and didn't really fit his character at that point of the series.
But in Doublemeat Palace he tells Buffy he can get her Money so she can quit her job and suddenly he's dealing with those eggs? It would fit so much if Spike, in his twisted thinking, thought this was a good way to help Buffy. It's dangerous and really not a good idea but we all know Spike's ideas are usually not great, no matter the intention.
I like Riley's wife too. I like this episode a lot and it was good for Buffy to get some closure. I think Riley and his wife worked so well together. I never hated or really disliked him aside from his actions with the vamp girls. I thought he was Buffy's healthiest relationship and I was glad to see him again. He and his wife balance so well that I liked him even more this episode.
I have seen all of these on Patreon. It would be a shame if the RUclips Algorithm missed out... Going through all of these videos makes me realize how many hours of entertainment you have provided to me. Thank you again Liam. Well deserved success and long may it continue. I will miss the anticipation of seeing your reaction to a Buffy episode, but there are a few Angel ones left, so all hope is not lost :-)
I'm unsure if self-isolation has reduced my sense of humor to chunky salsa or if Liam was just especially quippy this video.
Anyways here are some Liam funnies I think you should watch again:
2:52, 3:10, 7:28
He has a scar cos he's interesting now
hahahahaahahahaaa
I love Riley's wife! What a legend. He doesn't deserve her, obviously.
RILEY ♥️
One detail I liked was how in the end scene, Buffy hair and style seem to evoke her Season 2 self, as if she had become her old self again but looking forward.
Liam: Those nerds... and the murdering
Liam: *hmmms disapprovingly*
Me: 👏👏👏
Also Liam: He can die
Also me: 👏👏👏
For a moment there, I thought he said "nerdering" xD
I wish there was more in the last conversation with her and Spike, maybe him explaining why he was trying to make money, and her explaining herself better. It feels so rushed to me. He says earlier that she knows who he is, but she doesn’t explain that it really is her issue and that there isn’t anything he can do. They had such a lovely friendship at the start of the season and it’s disappointing that the writers were like nah fuck that forget about that lol. Just think the writing could have been better
Spuffy is the best.
Looking back on this, it’s a good episode. And needed, not just for the closure for Buffy with Riley, but giving her the ability to have the strength to end things with Spike.
That’s what I needed today! Thank you ❤️
"Addressing Dawn's loneliness. Kind of a fun episode on its own..."
Haha - Welcome to Season 6 =D
11:08 Just like at the end of 'Afterlife', Buffy walks into the light, leaving Spike in the shadows.
I never noticed this before. What a difference from Buffy walking into the sun after confessing where she was to Spike to here where she’s ready to get back into her life again.
@@sarahxo2317, I take it you noticed Buffy climbed her way out of the ground in the last episode of this season, just like she did in the first episode.
"What a bitch!" Willow is a loyal friend, even though she was cool and nice. Good closure.
This is an unpopular opinion but I liked Riley too. They ended up writing him into a box which was sad because they could’ve done a lot more interesting things with him. Though saying all that, the show didn’t suffer after he left and this episode was welcome closure.
Hey It's not that unpopular. :) I liked Riley too and always thought he was unfairly dislike by the fans.
Based on what I'm reading 1/3 hate, 1/3 neutral and 1/3 love. For some reason that fascinated me.
The problem is that what the writers wanted for Buffy in S4 was a normal boyfriend to contrast with the supernatural high drama of the Angel relationship. The problem is the writers confuse "normal" with "boring". Clark Kent and Captain America have the same archetype, but they're not dull. It seems like the writers just missed the mark with Riley until the last bit of S5 and this one appearance.
Finally Buffy doing what she should have done since the beginning, end that disgusting and abusive relationship with Spike. Her relationsip with Riley was the healthiest, they had problems but he truly loved her and wanted the best for her. I love his speech at the end, it was the push that she needed to take the right path again.