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This is good. Not the optical quality but the compactless Next version should be called Dwarf Large? Anyway i have an idea , give this idea to them. Most of the cost is due to mount. And it has almost no amplification unless u put zoom camera or something on it But why not use Refractor design but with a a mirror inside Basically one side is your light reciever. but it can be magnifed in Horizontal tube that can be extended to 1 meter total half meter from each side. Key is center of gravity.. you move one side for amplification and other side controlled by motor. I mean opposte side is micro adjustment to get center of gravity at middle. So there will be ring motor at center and that can move and rotate 180 degree At present design probably do that way but not sure it can handle 8" Mirror. it move only two axis x ( 360 degree) , Y 180 degree. It can cover all sky. The difference is there will be addional element that could be costly. That is a super high quality mirror recieves light and change direction like binocular at 45 degree Now how much quality go down ? we dont know. Depends on mirror or the prism to find which does better. This reduces cost of Mount because this need small motor. Even existing one can rotate bigger tube because it will have zero load at center to rotate as each side weight is adjusted to perfect with another motor adjusting length of tube one side. (fine tune), coarse tune is add some plastic weights or some weight rings at end. I mean everything pre assembled but if there is attachment added one side and other side should have equal weight rings Telescope industry can flourish. Easy to transport means you can go star parties or go anywhere in world with telescope you can carry. it should have remote wifi to TV so u control everything from inside home. Good software can separate the telescope but who ever make it can license the idea. 8" and 12" will be easy. We could even make 3D telescope.
@@nastybadger-tn4kl : LOL! You snarkmeister! Late 90's I grabbed a 1st gen Meade ETX for ~$400 but before digital controls. But damn... that little MakCass was a treat (my nicer big Schmidt Cass was just a relative anchor! Lost all to a house fire. 😡 ). But damned if these new digi comp toys aren't tempting! 😛
Hey Cuiv. Great review man! Regarding the speaker and microphone, Dwarf Lab has told me that it's designed for voice control down the road, and they've recently put together an interface that's aiming to enable it through a firmware upgrade in the future. This means we'll be able to talk to the DWARF 3, and it will do what we ask. However, they don't have a specific date for when this feature will be available.
Hi Cuiv! This is Claire from DwarfLab! A few things I would like to tell you on behalf of the dev team: 1. The scope can be rotated by your hands freely(seeing you carefully move it back before powering off, so adorable)2. The limit-hitting failure notice must be added up in the next update, so confused for beginners! 3. The scope actually comes with some sets of darks out of the factory, if you have hit the go take darks button, you will see a list of your available darks saved! Save your laziness lol! And lastly, love your video100000%! Thanks for sharing it with everyone!
It might be an interesting option to have at my cottage observatory (Bortle 3/2) as a secondary, while my main scope is imaging. I’ll be curious to see how well it performs in skies a bit darker than Tokyo (that is, pretty much everywhere! 😂 Nice review, I’ll look forward to your further testing!
Hi Claire, from my experience with the Dwarf2 there are lots of simple workflow improvement tweaks you could add that have been available on entry level Alt-Az goto scopes for decades. I will send you a list. The #1 confusing issue for beginners and experts alike is that there is no shooting settings preset as it is always reset back to 1s, gain 80 and IR pass for calibration, gotos, focusing and end stacking session. The software should restore the values in the preset after each of these options and they should be displayed at the top of the screen along with the current local/UT time. The number of times I've had to delete a session and reshoot because I forgot to set IR cut for capturing stars instead of DSO's ...
Please have your team consider a partner for; A possible tele converter , and close-up lens? ( sorry if I offended anyone, I am remembering old Olympus, digital cameras) As a disabled person, this is now on my 2025 Buy list,.
Fantastic unboxing and first light report! Thank you! I pre-ordered this in late May, wanting a second smart telescope to go alongside my Seestar, especially with a wider FOV and even more portability. D3 looks like it would also be perfect on its own for nights when I don’t have a lot of time. Love that it has an EQ mode and dithering. Smart telescopes really open up the sky for those of us living under heavy light pollution, and D3 looks like the next great smart telescope!
I love the fact that the size and form factor hasn’t changed much. Not having a garden or even a balcony to image from, I appreciate being able to carry it easily to the nearest park or field. I can’t wait to take it camping 🙂
as always great review Cuiv, and of course, you must take it on your trip to France, many like myself, we are all eagerly waiting for your content, I can't wait to see the setup for the EQ mode, my favorite operational mode
I was eagerly waiting for this video! I started with the Dwarf2 and the wonderful step-by-step tutorial on how to do post-processing with Siril and PixInsight! Thank you, and I hope to see more videos on the Dwarf3 soon!
Even though I already have a nice astrophotography rig, I'm definitely getting one of these! This looks like a load of fun. I can't wait to see more videos on the Dwarf 3. Thanks!
Great review! I was pretty impressed at the photos, especially for being rushed in a city environment. This is gonna be my first telescope. Can’t wait for this to arrive.
That's awesome, enjoy it!! I've recently tried in in equatorial mode and it's excellent there as well to go deeper compared to the standard smart telescope mode!
Your early review of the Dwarf 2 convinced me it was for real! I've shot a hundred targets since then and take it everywhere. Looking forward to getting my D3, and yes take it to darker skies in France 🌌
Learning Japanese for the past 3 months and actually kinda understood what you said 😀. I have not much interest in these scopes but am glad its getting more and more people into the hobby. At our group meetups theres now 3 or 4 smart scopes floating around and our members showing the public all sorts of cool stuff. Now with my new am5n, im as portable as i need to be (dropping my previous 150lb mount).
I'm going to have to get this. I have an original eVscope and it works well (I was a backer) but this thing is really awesome! Much easier to use. Thanks for the demo!
Waiting on my preorder to arrive in the next few weeks. Upgrading from the 2. Absolutely the 2 was my go to, quick and easy transportable choice. The 3 looks to be a good upgrade and will be my new go to quick grab and go kit. For reference my semi-portable rig is an Askar71f, Star Adventurer GTI with Touptek Canera and ZWO EAF and guider. Using a quiet4c with Stellarmate OS to control.
I'd been totally sold on a Seestar until this came along. I definitely value the smaller size/weight of the Dwarf products as I'll often be carrying them on foot, but it was clearly a better product than the Dwarf II with respect to image quality. Now that the Dwarf III seems to at least match the Seestar in that respect, I'm very much torn. Can't wait for a direct head-to-head matchup!
For now I've been testing the Eq mode and it's amazing! Three point polar alignment built in, together with 60s exposures and the internal dual band filter...
Nice review of initial experiences, a very impressive device ! Looking forward to hearing more. Amazing how many capable portable scopes have been released in the last few years. Interesting that camera features included. I see such devices as helping more people get some hands-on experience with astronomy. I wonder if more consumer-level features are/wiil be available (time-lapse, meteors, aurora, ISS snapshot, SpaceX launch boosters...).
Ola la that was a very cool video, I have for decades - yes I am the super astro amateur that never took off to the skies ,but never say never - and this review of a smart telescope kept me captivated for once and with a balcony quite similar towards dark northern forest i really felt this relevant to me. Me and my partner - a good glass of Japanese Nikka Whisky from the barrell - say merci beaucoup for this very interesting video 🙏🌞
Is there a "guide" that you would recommend for a very inexperienced beginner like me that shows remarkable astronomical objects that would make great photos? I have zero experience with astronomy, but am eager to learn. Really enjoyed your tutorial video. Thanks!
It's a tough one! Plus there is a new version of the Seestar coming out soon apparently! The Dwarf III has a larger field of view and less resolution, but can be used in equatorial mode. But let's wait until we get new information on the new Seestar!
Hi Cuiv, thanks for this enthusiastic first look - really considering buying one, since I'm too lazy to set up my proper rig most of the time. One thing thou: some of your short links in the description get caught by my AVG antivirus software as beeing malicous websites or blacklisted or whatever. Maybe you can check those. Examples are the "Dwarf III Smart Telescope" as well as the second Seestar link. Thanks for your great content - can't wait for more Dwarf 3 insights!
Incredible, I need to study up on the photography , astro photography, the stacking process everything bone by a computer. Thats great but I would really like to be good at doing it the old fashion way then I will appreciate this amazing stuff. I would want the 4000 dollar smart scope . One year from now it will be 100 bucks.
@Rohit-oz1or Which when editors like pixinsight also offers AI corrections, really means nothing. You can simply download the raw frames if you prefer and stack them yourself in post. Of course you'll still have your AI fear. How do you know pixinsight/DSS/etc doesn't just download images from the Internet?
Thanks for the video as always, Cuiv. I received notice on Friday that my Dwarf 3 is shipping right away, so I hope to have it in a week or two. I have enjoyed the Dwarf 2, as well as my Seestar S50, since the first of 2024, and I look forward to adding this new scope to my arsenal. Quick question... the D3 is supposed to have Mosaic mode. Have you seen any sign of it in the software?
Thanks again for another great review video, I actually ordered mine just before seeing your review on it. I'm excited for EQ mode, I'll be impressed if 60s exposures actually work out without guiding. How much control over gain settings does it have? I've seen a couple of discussions about it being set to something other than the HCG gain point.
@@CuivTheLazyGeekhow many frames were lost with 30s exposures from start trails? I've heard dithering will be enabled by default as well, so hopefully that combats walking noise well.
I ordered on faith (already having Dwarf 2) at launch. I was hoping to already have it in my hands but delivery was further postponed until November. I hope this time is the right time...
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Je te le souhaite! A propos, j'ai aussi commencé (à 56ans) le parapente. On se verra p'têt un jour à Annecy! Bons vols et cieux clairs.
Wow they have really polished this new Dwarf! The software is so mature now. Now we just need a maybe "pro" version with a IMX676 which has the same pixel size but 12MP and very low dark current. Either way well done Dwarf Labs, evolution of tech right before our eyes! Thanks Cuiv for the excellent unboxing and demo!
Can you please demonstrate how EQ mode works and longer exposures? This should be one of the main selling points, its a bit weird that you left these out
Give him a chance. Remember this was just first light. Based on the multiple videos he did of the Dwarf II, I am sure we will see more once he has had a chance to play with it a little more.
Yep, coming soon (tm)! I've done EQ mode and 30s exposures last night, working great. This is just an unboxing and first light, as per the video title!
@@hootbaez6185 no offence was intended, I realize that my comment comes across a bit harsh, I just wanted to voice out my interest in these particular features
Would be nice to see a full session of one evening , maybe doing even 50image stacks of few different stars with the Dwarf3. Maybe moon, Jupiter , rings of saturn, maybe a few nebula. To give the view and ease of use for the average man. To see what one can see and do in say 1hour or 2hours of taking it out and seeing what it can see and how it performs.
This scope isn't made for planetary, so Jupiter and Saturn are out, and what it can do depends a huge amount on light pollution, so that's a difficult ask :)
Thanks Cuiv for the excellent unboxing and demo!!!! Do you know if to use the EQ Mode function the program has a function to set the equatorial mount to polar alignment and adjust azimuth and altitude? Thank you very much from Argentina. Javier
For traveling I have dragged my seastar s50 on flights without issue including to Japan, where I shot on Enoshima. Fits comfortably right under the seats without issue or in a backpack. And the case is really protective.
Not my sort of thing, really but I do think these are great pieces of kit for the money and have plenty of uses. I can understand why these smart scopes are so popular with people getting into the hobby or even some experienced astro photographers as well, I don't know why some people seem dead against smart scopes, most people ar using fulIy automated rigs for imaging these days anyway, I think they are responsible for getting more people interested in astronomy and astrophotography and that can't be a bad thing. Anyway, enjoy your holiday Cuiv, I hope you get better weather that I'm currently experiencing in my part of the UK ( another forcasted clear night isn't)
Nice progress for these small, self contained image factories! Pretty soon it will be like a soccer ball that you just kick out the door in any weather and it will set itself up, rocket up into orbit and go to work imaging everything with a 3 meter fold out f1 apo objective and your choice of sensors...
I'm very interested in your further experiences with this little smart telescope; eq mode and various subjects you point this toward. I have a Seestar S50 I like very much, but would appreciate a wider field of view in a small travel friendly smart telescope to accompany the Seestar. I would love to get one of these before the end of the year.
The Dwarf has been described as not being a telescope but rather a motorized camera with zoom lense. It appears to work rather well for such a small aperture.
I keep wondering why people make this distinction? A lens is a telescope and vice versa :) It's a motorized camera with prime lens, it's a motorized tiny telescope, potato potahto! :) I agree it has really nice results!
grâce à cette vidéo... je viens de l'acheter. Quel est le "power" du zoom ? ps: j'ai dit à Dwarf Lab que c'est cette vidéo qui m'a parlé du produit... ça aide toujours !
Impressive for the price but it seems like it needs a better higher resolution lower light sensor and higher zoom... do they have a "pro" version? Also if you were going to buy today and money was no object what would be the best telescope you could get with this sort of form factor and feature set? I'm planning on taking a roadtrip across the country and want to take something like this with me but best of the best.
Just wonder how long it will take them to update the software? Maybe when Dwarf 4 is nearly out. I felt they burned us who bought the D2 as they did no update for 12 months, and think they only updated the app due to D3 coming out as there was only this big update 2 months or so before D3 came out, so does that mean D3 wont get any big update of the app till D4 is almost out.
Wow I'm very impressed with this one. As an astrophotographer who sometimes does live stacking streams, this looks like a great way to do that without having to get out my whole rig or while letting my main rig click away on some faint fuzzy.
I notice overnight Dwarflab updated the anticipated delivery schedule for the Dwarf 3. Looks like delivery dates have been pushed back 2 - 2.5 months until late December for orders placed in August/September. January 2025 for orders placed in October. Bummer...
I've seen a number of quality hardware devices that fail to connect to the app or fail to accept firmware updates, basically rendering them useless. I always check the app before buying devices. I'm glad that the Dwarf 3 doesn't appear to have these issues. The worst Google Play (Android) review talks about an intermittent connection to an iPad Air... which doesn't run Android.
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Nice.. I never see the Milky way ever here.. have to go away from the city or camp in the desert and wow.. what a view.. but here.. a few bright stars.. all the planets to Saturn..and the moon.. thats it..
It creates its own Wifi network for direct peer to peer connection between telescope and phone - so it doesn't need any internet connection and can be used in the field
Thanks for the excellent and comprehensive review Cuiv! Now I'll have to buy one of these too as soon as I can convince The Bride! Is dew an issue at your location? Without active dew control where I live, observing sessions are measured in minutes. I know the Dwarf 3 has a 'CPU mode' that can be activated in the app, which increases the internal temperature, but I'm wondering if it is effective in controlling dew. Keep up the good work!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek yes the panorama feature is of interest to me - if you decide to do further testing. easy way to attache to a dovetail to mount to EQ mount?
Small pixel camera seems like star trailing is going to me more of an issue with times over 5 seconds. Looking forward to more videos about this version. :)
Excellent device and review. Can you test the wide angle lens in astro mode to show stacked wide field milky way images please? This is one of dwarf 3 selling features for me!
Hi Cuiv. I need some help. I have a Sv705c camera , but it only seems to be imaging in monochrome. Using NINA, sharpcap and firecapture. Would you have any information on how the change it back to RGBG.
@@CuivTheLazyGeek What do you think the true difference versus the final version will be, and why didn’t you wait for it? I’ve heard that the early versions were all deemed to have issues with deep sky object imaging and that’s why they pulled the first batch. Will they replace yours with the final version by any chance?
Hi cuiv, You don't see the mosaic feature ? It seems they speak about it on their website . I was thinking to buy it, but zwo put mosaic mode to seestar now so...
@@CuivTheLazyGeek the way to make a mosaic is very different on these smart telescopes than on our classic ring telescope. On the seestar, the way to set the area and orientation of the field of view is very similar to the way to do it on asiair, it's pretty cool. but the way to cut the panels and make the mosaic is very different.
I think I have my answer. D3 is smaller and lighter. Don’t need to use an external finder. No need to worry about leveling, although it would really help to level the tripod before mounting the D3.
I'm watching the video right now. Without the ability to manually move the lenses, how will it be possible to align them vertically for polar stationing (as I always do, thanks to one of your videos)? Will it be enough to use the motor?
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0:30 "But alors you are french???" (La grande vadrouille... Louis de Funès à Bourvil)
This is good. Not the optical quality but the compactless
Next version should be called Dwarf Large?
Anyway i have an idea , give this idea to them.
Most of the cost is due to mount. And it has almost no amplification unless u put zoom camera or something on it
But why not use Refractor design but with a a mirror inside
Basically one side is your light reciever. but it can be magnifed in Horizontal tube that can be extended to 1 meter total half meter from each side.
Key is center of gravity.. you move one side for amplification and other side controlled by motor. I mean opposte side is micro adjustment to get center of gravity at middle. So there will be ring motor at center and that can move and rotate 180 degree
At present design probably do that way but not sure it can handle 8" Mirror. it move only two axis x ( 360 degree) , Y 180 degree. It can cover all sky.
The difference is there will be addional element that could be costly. That is a super high quality mirror recieves light and change direction like binocular at 45 degree
Now how much quality go down ? we dont know. Depends on mirror or the prism to find which does better.
This reduces cost of Mount because this need small motor. Even existing one can rotate bigger tube because it will have zero load at center to rotate as each side weight is adjusted to perfect with another motor adjusting length of tube one side. (fine tune), coarse tune is add some plastic weights or some weight rings at end.
I mean everything pre assembled but if there is attachment added one side and other side should have equal weight rings
Telescope industry can flourish. Easy to transport means you can go star parties or go anywhere in world with telescope you can carry.
it should have remote wifi to TV so u control everything from inside home.
Good software can separate the telescope but who ever make it can license the idea.
8" and 12" will be easy.
We could even make 3D telescope.
@@nastybadger-tn4kl : LOL! You snarkmeister! Late 90's I grabbed a 1st gen Meade ETX for ~$400 but before digital controls. But damn... that little MakCass was a treat (my nicer big Schmidt Cass was just a relative anchor! Lost all to a house fire. 😡 ). But damned if these new digi comp toys aren't tempting! 😛
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Hey Cuiv. Great review man! Regarding the speaker and microphone, Dwarf Lab has told me that it's designed for voice control down the road, and they've recently put together an interface that's aiming to enable it through a firmware upgrade in the future. This means we'll be able to talk to the DWARF 3, and it will do what we ask. However, they don't have a specific date for when this feature will be available.
Alexa, image the flying bat nebula and process it for me to apod standards
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Interesting! Thanks for the info!
Hi Cuiv! This is Claire from DwarfLab! A few things I would like to tell you on behalf of the dev team: 1. The scope can be rotated by your hands freely(seeing you carefully move it back before powering off, so adorable)2. The limit-hitting failure notice must be added up in the next update, so confused for beginners! 3. The scope actually comes with some sets of darks out of the factory, if you have hit the go take darks button, you will see a list of your available darks saved! Save your laziness lol! And lastly, love your video100000%! Thanks for sharing it with everyone!
Thanks so much Claire! Haha, I was too careful with the scope, let me add this good information to the description and pinned comment!
It might be an interesting option to have at my cottage observatory (Bortle 3/2) as a secondary, while my main scope is imaging. I’ll be curious to see how well it performs in skies a bit darker than Tokyo (that is, pretty much everywhere! 😂
Nice review, I’ll look forward to your further testing!
Hi Claire, from my experience with the Dwarf2 there are lots of simple workflow improvement tweaks you could add that have been available on entry level Alt-Az goto scopes for decades. I will send you a list.
The #1 confusing issue for beginners and experts alike is that there is no shooting settings preset as it is always reset back to 1s, gain 80 and IR pass for calibration, gotos, focusing and end stacking session. The software should restore the values in the preset after each of these options and they should be displayed at the top of the screen along with the current local/UT time.
The number of times I've had to delete a session and reshoot because I forgot to set IR cut for capturing stars instead of DSO's ...
Please have your team consider a partner for;
A possible tele converter , and close-up lens?
( sorry if I offended anyone, I am remembering old Olympus, digital cameras)
As a disabled person, this is now on my 2025 Buy list,.
Please make a review of Dwarf in equatorial mode using 60s. And THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR VIDEOS!!. I learn a lot with your tutorials
For now I've done in Eq mode 30s, it's been working great until the clouds rolled in, I'll do a video soon!
Fantastic unboxing and first light report! Thank you! I pre-ordered this in late May, wanting a second smart telescope to go alongside my Seestar, especially with a wider FOV and even more portability. D3 looks like it would also be perfect on its own for nights when I don’t have a lot of time. Love that it has an EQ mode and dithering. Smart telescopes really open up the sky for those of us living under heavy light pollution, and D3 looks like the next great smart telescope!
Yes! And the EQ mode seems to be fantastic based on initial tests! Hope you get yours soon!
"It can dither???" your expression is priceless! 8:26
Hahaha :)
I love the fact that the size and form factor hasn’t changed much. Not having a garden or even a balcony to image from, I appreciate being able to carry it easily to the nearest park or field. I can’t wait to take it camping 🙂
YES! you can still absolutely take it hiking :)
Thanks very much! Can't wait to see your images from France! I ordered one back in may for hiking/camping trips.
Unfortunately I didn't have the weather to use it in France! It is what it is I guess....
The moment we all have been waiting for.... 👍
At some point I'll make a proper review :)
as always great review Cuiv, and of course, you must take it on your trip to France, many like myself, we are all eagerly waiting for your content, I can't wait to see the setup for the EQ mode, my favorite operational mode
I was eagerly waiting for this video! I started with the Dwarf2 and the wonderful step-by-step tutorial on how to do post-processing with Siril and PixInsight! Thank you, and I hope to see more videos on the Dwarf3 soon!
Thanks
Thank you so much for your support!
I pre-ordered mine back in June. Can´t wait for it to arrive! 😁
Woohoo! Fingers crossed you get it soon!
Even though I already have a nice astrophotography rig, I'm definitely getting one of these! This looks like a load of fun. I can't wait to see more videos on the Dwarf 3. Thanks!
Great review! I was pretty impressed at the photos, especially for being rushed in a city environment.
This is gonna be my first telescope. Can’t wait for this to arrive.
That's awesome, enjoy it!! I've recently tried in in equatorial mode and it's excellent there as well to go deeper compared to the standard smart telescope mode!
Amazing! I'll buy it right now no matter what!!
Dithering can also provide better colour information by using different parts of the bayer pattern.
Your early review of the Dwarf 2 convinced me it was for real! I've shot a hundred targets since then and take it everywhere. Looking forward to getting my D3, and yes take it to darker skies in France 🌌
It's a really good evolution of the scope :) hope you get yours soon!
Welcome to the club =)
Small remark, Gain 60 - 80 is great.
Awesome, thanks for the tip!!
Learning Japanese for the past 3 months and actually kinda understood what you said 😀. I have not much interest in these scopes but am glad its getting more and more people into the hobby. At our group meetups theres now 3 or 4 smart scopes floating around and our members showing the public all sorts of cool stuff. Now with my new am5n, im as portable as i need to be (dropping my previous 150lb mount).
Have fun learning Japanese! And yes smart scopes help introduce people to the hobby, which is always good!
The new Dwaft 3 looks very interesting. I like the wider field view and it finally has filters!
Yesss! It's a lot of fun for now :)
Yay! I had been hoping you would get one of these to test out.
Yep! It's honestly a lot of fun for now and the EQ mode works great :)
I'm going to have to get this. I have an original eVscope and it works well (I was a backer) but this thing is really awesome! Much easier to use. Thanks for the demo!
It's great to see technology evolving like that and at such prices!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek It's evolving SUPER fast!
Wow! Amazing! I will include that to my bucket list and hope that i can have money to buy also. I'm watching here in the Philippines 🇵🇭
Waiting on my preorder to arrive in the next few weeks. Upgrading from the 2. Absolutely the 2 was my go to, quick and easy transportable choice. The 3 looks to be a good upgrade and will be my new go to quick grab and go kit.
For reference my semi-portable rig is an Askar71f, Star Adventurer GTI with Touptek Canera and ZWO EAF and guider. Using a quiet4c with Stellarmate OS to control.
I'd been totally sold on a Seestar until this came along. I definitely value the smaller size/weight of the Dwarf products as I'll often be carrying them on foot, but it was clearly a better product than the Dwarf II with respect to image quality. Now that the Dwarf III seems to at least match the Seestar in that respect, I'm very much torn. Can't wait for a direct head-to-head matchup!
For now I've been testing the Eq mode and it's amazing! Three point polar alignment built in, together with 60s exposures and the internal dual band filter...
love a night planner walk-through just ordered loved the 2 also better curvers during or after in editing? great intro to 3
情報、ありがとうございます。
ドワーフ3🕶️、いい感じですね。
とても軽くて使いやすいそう。
SeeStar S50も買ったばかりですが、これもあるとたくさんの天体が撮れそうですね。
欲しいですね✨
日本語も話されるのですね、嬉しかったです😊
great review looking forward to mine arriving
Nice review of initial experiences, a very impressive device ! Looking forward to hearing more. Amazing how many capable portable scopes have been released in the last few years. Interesting that camera features included. I see such devices as helping more people get some hands-on experience with astronomy. I wonder if more consumer-level features are/wiil be available (time-lapse, meteors, aurora, ISS snapshot, SpaceX launch boosters...).
I liked the Dwarf 3 unboxing very nice job and great selection thank you for sharing
Thank you very much for a great unboxing and FL video. It will be interesting to see how it does on some terrestrial objects as well.
Ola la that was a very cool video, I have for decades - yes I am the super astro amateur that never took off to the skies ,but never say never - and this review of a smart telescope kept me captivated for once and with a balcony quite similar towards dark northern forest i really felt this relevant to me. Me and my partner - a good glass of Japanese Nikka Whisky from the barrell - say merci beaucoup for this very interesting video 🙏🌞
That's some good whisky in a great place :) Glad this video was helpful to you!
Been waiting for this review!!
Just initial impressions for now :)
@@CuivTheLazyGeek You were so keen to get going… ‘Darks? - Later!’ 😆
Is there a "guide" that you would recommend for a very inexperienced beginner like me that shows remarkable astronomical objects that would make great photos? I have zero experience with astronomy, but am eager to learn. Really enjoyed your tutorial video. Thanks!
Now I'm confused. I am saving up for a seestar s50 but this review seems to show that the dwarf 3 will be better in some ways. What do you think Cuiv?
It's a tough one! Plus there is a new version of the Seestar coming out soon apparently! The Dwarf III has a larger field of view and less resolution, but can be used in equatorial mode. But let's wait until we get new information on the new Seestar!
I have the seestar. I’d rather save more and get proper gear. These ones have way too many issues
Excellent Review. Looking at ZWO Seestar S50 and Dwarf 3 but now favouring the latter.
Hi Cuiv, thanks for this enthusiastic first look - really considering buying one, since I'm too lazy to set up my proper rig most of the time. One thing thou: some of your short links in the description get caught by my AVG antivirus software as beeing malicous websites or blacklisted or whatever. Maybe you can check those. Examples are the "Dwarf III Smart Telescope" as well as the second Seestar link. Thanks for your great content - can't wait for more Dwarf 3 insights!
Incredible, I need to study up on the photography , astro photography, the stacking process everything bone by a computer. Thats great but I would really like to be good at doing it the old fashion way then I will appreciate this amazing stuff. I would want the 4000 dollar smart scope . One year from now it will be 100 bucks.
How do you know the telescope isn't generating images by downloading from the internet?
Wouldnt that be funny
I’ve used my D2 in the wilds, away from WiFi and mobile data. It still gets the images….
@@markgarner3505 It is AI powered. AI is trained using pre-existing images and uses it to predict the actual ones...
@Rohit-oz1or Which when editors like pixinsight also offers AI corrections, really means nothing. You can simply download the raw frames if you prefer and stack them yourself in post. Of course you'll still have your AI fear.
How do you know pixinsight/DSS/etc doesn't just download images from the Internet?
Thanks for the video as always, Cuiv. I received notice on Friday that my Dwarf 3 is shipping right away, so I hope to have it in a week or two. I have enjoyed the Dwarf 2, as well as my Seestar S50, since the first of 2024, and I look forward to adding this new scope to my arsenal. Quick question... the D3 is supposed to have Mosaic mode. Have you seen any sign of it in the software?
Wow! I think I’m going to buy this telescope. Thanks.
Have been looking forward to this product review.
First light only for now, I'll make a proper review later on :)
Thanks again for another great review video, I actually ordered mine just before seeing your review on it. I'm excited for EQ mode, I'll be impressed if 60s exposures actually work out without guiding. How much control over gain settings does it have? I've seen a couple of discussions about it being set to something other than the HCG gain point.
You can set the gain freely, but I don't know where it goes to HCG! I've tested 30s exposures in EQ mode for now, and they were well tracked!
@@CuivTheLazyGeekhow many frames were lost with 30s exposures from start trails? I've heard dithering will be enabled by default as well, so hopefully that combats walking noise well.
possible to test the functionality of the milky way shoot in the heart of Tokyo? Like to see how it will perform.
I've never managed milky way photography from here, even with DSLR and lens, so I'll probably test it from a dark area!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek can't wait for the review on this.
I would like to see it in use from no pollution places
Yep will do that at some point
I ordered on faith (already having Dwarf 2) at launch. I was hoping to already have it in my hands but delivery was further postponed until November. I hope this time is the right time...
Hope you get it soon!!
Hey Cuiv! Bon retour en Europe !! Si tu peux prendre un peu de ciel clair dans tes bagages, ça m'arrangerait bien !
Bien sûr, j'apporte le ciel bleu avec moi :) J'irai aussi à Annecy pour faire du parapente, j'espère que le temps sera ok...
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Je te le souhaite! A propos, j'ai aussi commencé (à 56ans) le parapente. On se verra p'têt un jour à Annecy! Bons vols et cieux clairs.
@@IamArtimon-ui4co woohoo!! Le parapente c'est génial! :) Je suis à Annecy la semaine prochaine si tu y es ;)
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Snif ..... Je bosse et suis en Belgique (près de Walibi). Si tu fais un TREEEES long vol, tu es le bienvenu chez moi.
Wow they have really polished this new Dwarf! The software is so mature now. Now we just need a maybe "pro" version with a IMX676 which has the same pixel size but 12MP and very low dark current. Either way well done Dwarf Labs, evolution of tech right before our eyes! Thanks Cuiv for the excellent unboxing and demo!
Yep, it's looking real good!
Can you please demonstrate how EQ mode works and longer exposures? This should be one of the main selling points, its a bit weird that you left these out
Give him a chance. Remember this was just first light. Based on the multiple videos he did of the Dwarf II, I am sure we will see more once he has had a chance to play with it a little more.
Yep, coming soon (tm)! I've done EQ mode and 30s exposures last night, working great. This is just an unboxing and first light, as per the video title!
@@hootbaez6185 no offence was intended, I realize that my comment comes across a bit harsh, I just wanted to voice out my interest in these particular features
@@CuivTheLazyGeek super, looking forward to see it in action
@@CuivTheLazyGeek does that mean the telescope is automatically rotating to follow the stars? do you need a seperate triepod for this ?
That was great, mine just shipped....just when I was getting good with the D2 lol
hey when did you order yours? mid july here.
@@zmc33 Months ago, very first day you could preorder....your gonna be waiting
Looks like a good competition for the Seestar 50. How well does it capture the M31?
I'll test some more soon
What a fun thing! Even my Wife want´s one now. Guess i´ll buy it :D
Go for it! It's a lot of fun, plus it's small enough to take hiking :)
How do we know the device isn't just sending you stock images after it determind you've got a clear sky overhead?
I’ve used my D2 in the wilds, away from WiFi and mobile data. It still gets the images….
Would be nice to see a full session of one evening , maybe doing even 50image stacks of few different stars with the Dwarf3. Maybe moon, Jupiter , rings of saturn, maybe a few nebula.
To give the view and ease of use for the average man. To see what one can see and do in say 1hour or 2hours of taking it out and seeing what it can see and how it performs.
This scope isn't made for planetary, so Jupiter and Saturn are out, and what it can do depends a huge amount on light pollution, so that's a difficult ask :)
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いつも楽しいもん
Thanks Cuiv for the excellent unboxing and demo!!!! Do you know if to use the EQ Mode function the program has a function to set the equatorial mount to polar alignment and adjust azimuth and altitude? Thank you very much from Argentina. Javier
For traveling I have dragged my seastar s50 on flights without issue including to Japan, where I shot on Enoshima. Fits comfortably right under the seats without issue or in a backpack. And the case is really protective.
Very nice! The Seestar is definitely good for travel, but I'll also need to bring my paragliding equipment and that takes a lot of space :)
Not my sort of thing, really but I do think these are great pieces of kit for the money and have plenty of uses. I can understand why these smart scopes are so popular with people getting into the hobby or even some experienced astro photographers as well, I don't know why some people seem dead against smart scopes, most people ar using fulIy automated rigs for imaging these days anyway, I think they are responsible for getting more people interested in astronomy and astrophotography and that can't be a bad thing. Anyway, enjoy your holiday Cuiv, I hope you get better weather that I'm currently experiencing in my part of the UK ( another forcasted clear night isn't)
Yep, I think it's some gatekeeping instinct? I had it hard so you must have it hard too? Hope you get some real clear skies soon!
WOW!
... and in Tokyo city, excellent.
Thank you very much!
Impressive preview 🖖👀
Nice progress for these small, self contained image factories! Pretty soon it will be like a soccer ball that you just kick out the door in any weather and it will set itself up, rocket up into orbit and go to work imaging everything with a 3 meter fold out f1 apo objective and your choice of sensors...
Mwahahaha that would be fun lol
Be good to see how this performs against the ST50 - looks a great little tool on first seeing
I'm very interested in your further experiences with this little smart telescope; eq mode and various subjects you point this toward. I have a Seestar S50 I like very much, but would appreciate a wider field of view in a small travel friendly smart telescope to accompany the Seestar. I would love to get one of these before the end of the year.
Sky View App does the same for me for nothing 😂 The only ‘smart’ difference is I point it myself and this one does some fancy moves! Crazy world!!!
The Dwarf has been described as not being a telescope but rather a motorized camera with zoom lense. It appears to work rather well for such a small aperture.
I keep wondering why people make this distinction? A lens is a telescope and vice versa :)
It's a motorized camera with prime lens, it's a motorized tiny telescope, potato potahto! :)
I agree it has really nice results!
Sure that's a great scope that hopefully I will order sooner or later but living in Europe I can forget that great price.
grâce à cette vidéo... je viens de l'acheter. Quel est le "power" du zoom ? ps: j'ai dit à Dwarf Lab que c'est cette vidéo qui m'a parlé du produit... ça aide toujours !
Impressive for the price but it seems like it needs a better higher resolution lower light sensor and higher zoom... do they have a "pro" version? Also if you were going to buy today and money was no object what would be the best telescope you could get with this sort of form factor and feature set? I'm planning on taking a roadtrip across the country and want to take something like this with me but best of the best.
Cuiv please make a comparison video between this and the Seestar.
Just wonder how long it will take them to update the software? Maybe when Dwarf 4 is nearly out. I felt they burned us who bought the D2 as they did no update for 12 months, and think they only updated the app due to D3 coming out as there was only this big update 2 months or so before D3 came out, so does that mean D3 wont get any big update of the app till D4 is almost out.
Wow I'm very impressed with this one. As an astrophotographer who sometimes does live stacking streams, this looks like a great way to do that without having to get out my whole rig or while letting my main rig click away on some faint fuzzy.
Absolutely!
I notice overnight Dwarflab updated the anticipated delivery schedule for the Dwarf 3. Looks like delivery dates have been pushed back 2 - 2.5 months until late December for orders placed in August/September. January 2025 for orders placed in October. Bummer...
Victims of their success...
Absolutely fascinating...almost magic !
Hey Cuiv, what scope do you like better, this one or the seestar 50?
I've seen a number of quality hardware devices that fail to connect to the app or fail to accept firmware updates, basically rendering them useless. I always check the app before buying devices. I'm glad that the Dwarf 3 doesn't appear to have these issues. The worst Google Play (Android) review talks about an intermittent connection to an iPad Air... which doesn't run Android.
Can’t wait to get mines to review as well! Hope you would be able to stop by and pay a visit to the Galactic Hunter team in France.
Hope you get it soon!
Any chance you could do side-by-side comparison of the Seestar S50 and the Dwarf 3?
It's in the plans, will take me a while though!
Problem with me having this is I live at the beach and too close to City Lights. cool product...
Yeah, light pollution is a bummer... I'm in Tokyo, where the video was shot, so I know the pain!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Nice.. I never see the Milky way ever here.. have to go away from the city or camp in the desert and wow.. what a view.. but here.. a few bright stars.. all the planets to Saturn..and the moon.. thats it..
Great video thank you, I may have missed this. Can I go out in the field? Is it totally reliant on WiFi connection? Sorry I am very old.
It creates its own Wifi network for direct peer to peer connection between telescope and phone - so it doesn't need any internet connection and can be used in the field
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thank you so much. Your reply it means a lot. And thanks for a quick reply.
Thanks for the excellent and comprehensive review Cuiv! Now I'll have to buy one of these too as soon as I can convince The Bride!
Is dew an issue at your location? Without active dew control where I live, observing sessions are measured in minutes. I know the Dwarf 3 has a 'CPU mode' that can be activated in the app, which increases the internal temperature, but I'm wondering if it is effective in controlling dew.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you.
Hey Cuiv, How did the Eq mode work?
For now, very well :)
nice review thank you - better then See star?
Can't say for now, but I've since been testing EQ mode and that's a killer feature
@@CuivTheLazyGeek yes the panorama feature is of interest to me - if you decide to do further testing. easy way to attache to a dovetail to mount to EQ mount?
Small pixel camera seems like star trailing is going to me more of an issue with times over 5 seconds. Looking forward to more videos about this version. :)
I was actually impressed in equatorial mode, 30s exposures were fine - without wind the tracking is very decent in another AltAz or EQ mode :)
Excellent, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Merci pour cette presentation du DWarf 3😉, commander au lancement est j'ai trop hate de l'avoir.
You didn't cover off the biggest upgrade, EQ mode???
First light for now, will cover EQ mode later - it's great in my initial tests since filming this initial video!
Can it take night scene pics of aurora or comets?
Excellent device and review. Can you test the wide angle lens in astro mode to show stacked wide field milky way images please? This is one of dwarf 3 selling features for me!
I'll try, but I need to get out of Tokyo for that!
Hi Cuiv. I need some help. I have a Sv705c camera , but it only seems to be imaging in monochrome. Using NINA, sharpcap and firecapture. Would you have any information on how the change it back to RGBG.
Thanks for the informative review! Stars look good. Optics seem improved from those in Dwarf 2, at least my copy which suffers from pinched optics.
Yes, the optics and tracking are much better than the Dwarf II!
Is your Dwarf 3 one of the pre-production original units? To my knowledge shipment of the units to customers won’t happen until November.
Yes
@@CuivTheLazyGeek What do you think the true difference versus the final version will be, and why didn’t you wait for it? I’ve heard that the early versions were all deemed to have issues with deep sky object imaging and that’s why they pulled the first batch. Will they replace yours with the final version by any chance?
Excellent review, thanks
Thanks for watching!
Hi cuiv,
You don't see the mosaic feature ? It seems they speak about it on their website .
I was thinking to buy it, but zwo put mosaic mode to seestar now so...
Not yet, I think still in Beta, but looking forward to it! - that said with the EQ mode a mosaic feature may be a bit less useful :)
@@CuivTheLazyGeek the way to make a mosaic is very different on these smart telescopes than on our classic ring telescope.
On the seestar, the way to set the area and orientation of the field of view is very similar to the way to do it on asiair, it's pretty cool. but the way to cut the panels and make the mosaic is very different.
How does this Dwarf 3 compare with the ZWO Seestar?
I think I have my answer. D3 is smaller and lighter. Don’t need to use an external finder. No need to worry about leveling, although it would really help to level the tripod before mounting the D3.
How does the FOV and resolution compare to the SeeStar?
3 month waiting list here in the uk
I'm watching the video right now. Without the ability to manually move the lenses, how will it be possible to align them vertically for polar stationing (as I always do, thanks to one of your videos)? Will it be enough to use the motor?
Claire chimed in above, you can move them manually, apparently just takes more effort to turn than d2
You can actually move them! I added that to the pinned comment, they had more resistance than the Dwarf II so I was too careful with the scope :) 😁
I'm curious about that EQ mode
Video coming soon!