As a metal head I’ve always used a tube screamer into a high gain amp. Then I discovered doom and got a few fuzz pedals, and now recently I’ve been using distortion and occasional fuzz for some nirvana or smashing pumpkins. Currently my favorite is to take the boss super od and run it into a blues driver and that gets some screaming rock tones.
@@gamerchap7138 there’s actually a chance that that might not be true. We don’t know what Kurt used for incestcide. There has been no evidence suggesting that he used the DS1. I’ve actually tried to re-create the tone countless times bouncing back-and-forth between mustangs Jaguars and high fliers. Even my Moserite, and the Proco rat has always sounded closer than the DS1 for aneurysm. Kurt did use krist’s rat on nevermind, so it is definitely possible!!!!
@@castleanthrax1833 there was this decade of anti-Boss nonsense I seem to remember. That and the true bypass brigade in the early 2000s left a small mark. These are like Lego though, you can build any sound with them.
Distortion: If I'm not using the amp distortion, then it's likely the Proco Rat 2. Just an all around great distortion. I also do like the MXR Custom 78, Metal Muff, and if I owned one I'd also say the Revv G3. Overdrive: Green Rhino MkII and Bad Monkey. Honestly my favorite green screamer style OD because of the flexibility with the tone and the 100hz knob making insane changes to the tone. Bad Monkey for reasons people have slept on for years. It's honestly just a great screamer style OD that is simple and easy to use. Phil X got me into it years before JHS made that video. Fuzz: Big Muff Tone Wicker and Big Muff Bass. The tone wicker pedal is great for getting a lot of garage rock and stoner rock tones. While the Big Muff Bass on a guitar has a surprising Gilmourish sound to it.
Hahaha. Yeah, you had to clarify that about the Bad Monkey, if for no other reason than not having a hundred replies asking you if you're only using it because of Josh's video. ✌️ Edit: I listen to Phil Xs recommendations, too. He's phenomenal.
@@nonamedsai6793 Try distortion mixed with overdrive set mostly to boost the signal and not distort it more, it's used that way in so many songs. Especially good for some older marshalls like the jcm800, it makes them much more interesting
a hack i’ve found for a really kickass tone is to run a tubescreamer into a big muff type fuzz (i use a black arts tone works pharaoh fuzz but i assume it sounds just as good on a normal muff) and set the tubescreamer like how you would to boost a distorted amp. it’s my secret for super grimy distorted tones that still have a decent amount of definition.
I stopped doing that because I hit a really great sweet spot one day, and I couldn't replicate it the next time I was playing. It bugged me so much that I've decided not to stack my drive pedals ever again. If I'm going to stack them, I'll only use a modeller so I can save the combination.
The good ole ts 808. I use this sucker with a crunch setting on my amp. It sounds sick, almost like a chainsaw. Btw, if anyone wants the Linkin Park tone, here's how to get it. First in the chain is a noise gate. Threshold is at -40 and decay is at 0. Next, you want to compress your signal to get more sustain and bite. Use an LA-2A compressor and set the threshold at -53 and the gain at 0. (There's a free vst version called modern lost angel if you don't have one and podfarm also has one that's just called compressor). Then, set up your tube screamer. Leave the drive at 0, set the level/gain 90% and the tone at 17% (There are great free ones and podfarm has one too) after that, you're gonna use a free amp sim called LePou Legion. It's been described as a Rectifier on crack. Put the first switch on red. Set the mode to Rhythm and turn on tone stack. Leave the drive at noon, set the low knob at 1 or 2 o clock, the mid at 8 or 9 o clock, the high knob at 1 o clock the contour at 10 or 11 o clock, leave the presence at noon and set the volume to taste. After that, get a free cab sim called Ignite NadIR and get some mesa OS 4x12 V30 impulse responses. Plague Scythe Studios has a free pack listed in the description of his tone tutorials. After that, eq to taste and you're all set!
I think if theres one thing I learned over the 20 years of collecting and playing with pedals amps and guitars, one top tip I would give to people is to play your fuzz, overdrive, and distortion into a CLEAN AMP and if you use an amps gain side, use it alone without pedals. Theres no rules but that was something I learned I like the most. Another tip, I used to always crank the hi end on the amp, specifically Fender tube amps, but Fenders are too shrill for me. I like my Twin Reverb without the Bright switch, treble at 4, mids at 10 and bass at about 6. But my Orange, I crank almost all the tone knobs. A clean Orange with cranked tone and a Big Muff+Rat is something special, and the amps gain without pedals is something to behold. And Ive grown to not like reverb pedals into Fenders it muddies up the articulation and adds shrill, no matter how you set tone knobs. But all Reverb pedals are different. Hardwire RV-7 may be my favorite and Ive literally tried just about all of them.
I disagree with OD pedals only being for clean. Two examples: Tube screamers boosting high gain sounds. Treble boosters into dirty Vox/alnico blue amps.
I mostly do the same, only running dirt into a clean amp, but as the reply before me has said, a tube screamer often works wonders to tighten up an already overdriven amp. I don't use one that way, but plenty of accomplished guitarists do.
Horizon devices precision drive is by far my favourite. Level cranked to full and drive all the way down at zero paired with a high gain amp is one of the tightest tones you’ll ever get
I use a Big Muff and a DS-1 because those are what I own. I have a PV XXL amp now that has a lot of distortion options built-in that have been fun to play with!
The first distortion sound didn't come from a pedal. Someone poked a hole in their cab speakers and recorded the playing while the cab is broken, pedals ever since we're used to mimic those sounds bc it actually sounded great/new for the time
An excellent presentation dude. :D I love the fuzz sound with a strat because of Jimi. I love my Marshall cranked to the Sweet Spot for the overdrive. I love the distortion I get from the preamp of my Marshall. :D Never had use for a RAT pedal although I like the sound. Cheers :D
I'm currently using a Boss OD-1 in my pedalboard and it sounds great and combines with most of my other pedals and equipment. The versatility is limited but it still gives all you need for its price.
Best explanation of these three that I’ve seen in short and long form content. Thanks man
"Literally overdriving" is a good explanation? No.
I find it rather shallow and pedantic
Agreed. Thank you.
@@Peter..Griffin😂😂😂
True
"Broken equipment"
Plays one of the best strat tones I've heard
Well, it's not a broken guitar that fuzz is emulating... it's a "ripped" speaker, ala Dave Davies.
they literally used to poke holes in the speaker to get a distorted sound lol, that's what he means
It's called broken until someone likes it and avoid fixing it
As a metal head I’ve always used a tube screamer into a high gain amp. Then I discovered doom and got a few fuzz pedals, and now recently I’ve been using distortion and occasional fuzz for some nirvana or smashing pumpkins. Currently my favorite is to take the boss super od and run it into a blues driver and that gets some screaming rock tones.
Have you tried the SF3000 super fuzz?
have you tried the op-amp big muff?
As in doom metal?
What're y'all's fav doom bands? I really like My Dying Bride personally
Nice I run my ds 1 with by bd 1, creates a beautiful tone
Thanks for doing Aneurysm!
It confused me a second cause he was using bar chords instead of the classic cobain chords! 😂🤘🤘
@@Kian_Thawne and kurt used a ds-1 for that song not a rat lol
@@gamerchap7138rat live
@@gamerchap7138 there’s actually a chance that that might not be true. We don’t know what Kurt used for incestcide. There has been no evidence suggesting that he used the DS1. I’ve actually tried to re-create the tone countless times bouncing back-and-forth between mustangs Jaguars and high fliers. Even my Moserite, and the Proco rat has always sounded closer than the DS1 for aneurysm. Kurt did use krist’s rat on nevermind, so it is definitely possible!!!!
This guy explain it better than most 1 hour plus overdrive vs distortion video
TS9 adds such a warmth to the guitar.
Best explanation on youtube yet
Wow, thanks!
Oh really? You have seen every video I guess. Nerd
Thanks for the lesson! My favorite Overdrive pedal is the: BOSS BD2 Blues driver.
I love that pedal!
I just commented that everyone should have it on their pedalboard.
I honestly don't understand why it's not more popular.
@@castleanthrax1833 I know such a nasty overdrive pedal. Goood sustain too
@@Fl4ppers Nice
@@castleanthrax1833 there was this decade of anti-Boss nonsense I seem to remember. That and the true bypass brigade in the early 2000s left a small mark. These are like Lego though, you can build any sound with them.
Distortion: If I'm not using the amp distortion, then it's likely the Proco Rat 2. Just an all around great distortion. I also do like the MXR Custom 78, Metal Muff, and if I owned one I'd also say the Revv G3.
Overdrive: Green Rhino MkII and Bad Monkey. Honestly my favorite green screamer style OD because of the flexibility with the tone and the 100hz knob making insane changes to the tone. Bad Monkey for reasons people have slept on for years. It's honestly just a great screamer style OD that is simple and easy to use. Phil X got me into it years before JHS made that video.
Fuzz: Big Muff Tone Wicker and Big Muff Bass. The tone wicker pedal is great for getting a lot of garage rock and stoner rock tones. While the Big Muff Bass on a guitar has a surprising Gilmourish sound to it.
Hahaha. Yeah, you had to clarify that about the Bad Monkey, if for no other reason than not having a hundred replies asking you if you're only using it because of Josh's video. ✌️
Edit: I listen to Phil Xs recommendations, too. He's phenomenal.
Best use of a RUclips short I've seen in a while.
Great explanation
Vintage Morley Fuzz and power wash, BOSS Metal Zone, and Marshall Overdrive
Boss metal core is better, but there are still so many batter ones
Univox Superfuzz and EHX Big Muffs are easily better than a Morley fuzz. Or even a Fuzz Face at that.
@@poopsock7991big muffs aren’t the same kind of “fuzz” they’re more like distortion pedals, modern distortion pedals.
Boss Heavy Metal eats both Metal Zone and Metal Core in my opinion
Basic choice but i love the boss DS-1 and BD2
The fuzz, with the phaser, and just a little delay. That tripadelic Hendrix sound!
Boss Blues Driver.......my pedal of choice.👍
I love this
Just learned about sound waves in science class today finally starting to understand this aspect of music
The best overdrive i've ever tried was boss blues driver. The grit from that thing was unreal.
Keep fighting the good fight. 🤜
My best favorite is the one that has Metal written in it
Ibanez TS9, Big Muff nano, and Boss DS1 all have a home on my board.
The Ibanez TS-9 was my main go to for a long time but I just recently bought an EVH 5150 overdrive and it’s pretty amazing
I saw a video where Tim Pierce praised that pedal. He said it's one of his favourite "dirt" pedals, which is a pretty good endorsement. 👍
fuzz: big muff op-amp
distortion: ds-1
overdrive: tone driver
Hell yea!
This is the first time I’ve seen someone explain it simply but with good detail. Thanks.
Combinded Overdrives forever 🤘
Get all three, simple
But the question is do I need all of them on one board 😂
Not particularly. Distortion and Overdrive pair well together for metal tones but aside from that you don't really need to mix and match them.
Yes
@@Rowanexenwould distortion and fuzz be a good combo? I don’t like overdrive too much
Yes....
@@nonamedsai6793 Try distortion mixed with overdrive set mostly to boost the signal and not distort it more, it's used that way in so many songs. Especially good for some older marshalls like the jcm800, it makes them much more interesting
fuzz sounds so good
Thank you, best explanation I’ve ever heard
Overdrive + fuzz give amaizing sound
Greer Amps Lightspeed Overdrive - best overdrive pedal ever.
Best explanation of this. Thanks for the lesson.
My favorite FuzzFace , Ts808 , and KLON
best explanation ever
*inhales*
M E T A L Z O N E
LEGEND
Love the Metalzone!! Gotta tweak it with a 10-band MXR after though. Also, put a soft clipper pedal after it and you get some more 80s rock tones.
Love my Soul Food!
For me nothing can top the sound of a 60’s garage rock bands fuzz tone
Sweet explanation
Rocking the Jekyll & Hyde + Swollen Pickle
i've been using them for so long and this actually is nice to know
a hack i’ve found for a really kickass tone is to run a tubescreamer into a big muff type fuzz (i use a black arts tone works pharaoh fuzz but i assume it sounds just as good on a normal muff) and set the tubescreamer like how you would to boost a distorted amp. it’s my secret for super grimy distorted tones that still have a decent amount of definition.
My favorito drive pedal is the JHS Morning Glory, its very versatile
Great video bro
fuzz petal playing pyretta blaze would sound so good
Very well explained thank you
Boss OD-1X hands down the best over drive
Great explanation. You can also combine them.
The Boss Adaptive DS pedal Is amazing .
Not to mention things get interesting when you stack them.
I stopped doing that because I hit a really great sweet spot one day, and I couldn't replicate it the next time I was playing. It bugged me so much that I've decided not to stack my drive pedals ever again.
If I'm going to stack them, I'll only use a modeller so I can save the combination.
@@castleanthrax1833 That's one of the many reasons I've decided to go digital myself.
I never saw a so spot on explanation before
Fuzz face is one of my all time favorites
The good ole ts 808. I use this sucker with a crunch setting on my amp. It sounds sick, almost like a chainsaw. Btw, if anyone wants the Linkin Park tone, here's how to get it. First in the chain is a noise gate. Threshold is at -40 and decay is at 0.
Next, you want to compress your signal to get more sustain and bite. Use an LA-2A compressor and set the threshold at -53 and the gain at 0. (There's a free vst version called modern lost angel if you don't have one and podfarm also has one that's just called compressor). Then, set up your tube screamer. Leave the drive at 0, set the level/gain 90% and the tone at 17% (There are great free ones and podfarm has one too) after that, you're gonna use a free amp sim called LePou Legion. It's been described as a Rectifier on crack. Put the first switch on red. Set the mode to Rhythm and turn on tone stack. Leave the drive at noon, set the low knob at 1 or 2 o clock, the mid at 8 or 9 o clock, the high knob at 1 o clock the contour at 10 or 11 o clock, leave the presence at noon and set the volume to taste. After that, get a free cab sim called Ignite NadIR and get some mesa OS 4x12 V30 impulse responses. Plague Scythe Studios has a free pack listed in the description of his tone tutorials. After that, eq to taste and you're all set!
who cares about a half page of freakin linking park sound ? ? ?
modtone speedbox been my go to for 15yrs
Great video thank you
All of them, you can't choose your favorite child same with these effects they are all great
The huge Big Muff is by far the greatest
Big muff🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
The Shin-ei, Tone Bender, Original Big Muff and Superfuzz Gianinni
It began with a torn speaker paper.
true!
I love to boost fuzz pedals with overdrive pedals, it sounds brutal!!!
There’s just something that sounds nice about distortion and the other 2, I don’t know why tho
I love my Rat, the filter is awesome.
I currently use a Boss SD-1, a Boss MT-2, and a Behringer SF300. My first distortion was a MXR M86, and I want to one day switch out to a BD-2
Do it today. The BD-2 is an awesome pedal. 👌
@@castleanthrax1833 as a highschool student still relying on their parents, I wish lol
the boss distortion tone in unbeatable imo
I use my tube screamer for metal, but my favorites gotta be the Tube screamer and Boss DS1
I think if theres one thing I learned over the 20 years of collecting and playing with pedals amps and guitars, one top tip I would give to people is to play your fuzz, overdrive, and distortion into a CLEAN AMP and if you use an amps gain side, use it alone without pedals. Theres no rules but that was something I learned I like the most. Another tip, I used to always crank the hi end on the amp, specifically Fender tube amps, but Fenders are too shrill for me. I like my Twin Reverb without the Bright switch, treble at 4, mids at 10 and bass at about 6. But my Orange, I crank almost all the tone knobs. A clean Orange with cranked tone and a Big Muff+Rat is something special, and the amps gain without pedals is something to behold. And Ive grown to not like reverb pedals into Fenders it muddies up the articulation and adds shrill, no matter how you set tone knobs. But all Reverb pedals are different. Hardwire RV-7 may be my favorite and Ive literally tried just about all of them.
I disagree with OD pedals only being for clean. Two examples: Tube screamers boosting high gain sounds. Treble boosters into dirty Vox/alnico blue amps.
I mostly do the same, only running dirt into a clean amp, but as the reply before me has said, a tube screamer often works wonders to tighten up an already overdriven amp. I don't use one that way, but plenty of accomplished guitarists do.
Horizon devices precision drive is by far my favourite. Level cranked to full and drive all the way down at zero paired with a high gain amp is one of the tightest tones you’ll ever get
At the moment I’ve found an awesome blend of a Rat distortion and a Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret OD
Whichever one i find in my dads closet
I like to switch between my joyo zombie with a boost and my joyo bluejay with a fender dual pugilist distortion for some old timey blues sounds.
Friedman BE-OD with the Chase Tone Secret Preamp
Shoegaze: all three is minimum I can do
my blues driver is my go to.
I baited for a bass video... But the explanation was good enough for staying
just got the friedman be-od this thing sounds like a tube amp I love it
Picked up a HW TS808 and it took me a long time to really find where it fit for me. Now it’s my favorite pedal ever probably
Thank you!)
Boss Dual Overdrive ftw
I use a Big Muff and a DS-1 because those are what I own. I have a PV XXL amp now that has a lot of distortion options built-in that have been fun to play with!
I have this thing called a Dan Armstrong Blue Clipper and it sounds really nice but it’s super loud
Ibanez TS. Been using one for 35 plus years. Thanks for you info BTW.
I have that same bass fuzz. Its easily one of the best peddles i own.
mine Boss SD-1 & Big Muff Pi. always use both for distortion
Literally same here.
I remember the boss tone was one of the first fuzzies to come out, that little sucker blew my JBL speakers out twice😂
Its originally the amp overdriven plus some cutting their speakers with stanley knives etc
a lot of work went into this video, and i will be using it to explain this distinction to folks moving forward. action AND information packed 🤘
I love my Bass Soul Food of Electroharmonix 🔥
Put ‘em all together and go to town….your welcome.
The first distortion sound didn't come from a pedal. Someone poked a hole in their cab speakers and recorded the playing while the cab is broken, pedals ever since we're used to mimic those sounds bc it actually sounded great/new for the time
My favorite pedals for all of these is literally just the Nux mg-100
Nice shirt!
I have a big muff, a ds-1 (my first pedal), and a tube pilot. I love my rig
I have a Oberdrive/Distortion and its pretty much just a mix of those two… But it sounds amazing👌
I like regular overdrive as a bassist
I use the Hell Melter distortion pedal
the overdrive installed on my amp goes crazy with bass distortion honestly
An excellent presentation dude. :D I love the fuzz sound with a strat because of Jimi. I love my Marshall cranked to the Sweet Spot for the overdrive. I love the distortion I get from the preamp of my Marshall. :D Never had use for a RAT pedal although I like the sound. Cheers :D
I have been playing guitar for 6 years and I didn’t know the difference
I'm currently using a Boss OD-1 in my pedalboard and it sounds great and combines with most of my other pedals and equipment. The versatility is limited but it still gives all you need for its price.
Hold up. This fella plays Goood
The distinction is that overdrives push the amp, distortions distort the signal, and fuzzes run the signal through transistors