The War on React Content (xQc, SSSniperwolf)
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
- React creators xQc and SSSniperwolf have found themselves bombarded by drama and controversy for weeks. This is partially thanks to Jacksfilms and DarkViperAU, two of the most vocal opponents of react content in the creator space. Many have argued for years that react content is theft, and creators like xQc and SSSniperwolf need to either solve compensation, or find a new gig.
This is a video essay discussing the conflicts surrounding react content on RUclips.
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ok, but it surprises me that no one has made a react channel where they just play xqc clips and leave the room 5 seconds in and come back after 10 minutes
get him a taste of his own medicine so to speak
He’d whine on twitter then the person who made it would be doxxed by his 12yo and 44yo basement dweller fans. It would be hilarious but too risky 😂😭
Justin whang on his second channel and Man Carrying things did something like that but it was just for one video
Yeah but then they’d actually have to try and figure out what he’s saying. Easier said than done
I said the exact same thing on Twitter the other day lmfao
noted
Jacksfilms is one of the actual good guys on this platform who cares about entertainment, the community and the culture, who has been around for forever and who seems genuinely thankful for what RUclips gave him
can’t help but feel like creators succeed on here in spite of youtube, not because youtube gave them much of anything of substance besides a hosting service
Not "what RUclips gave him," what he earned by being talented and working hard. RUclips "gave" idiots like Ssniperwolf money because they stole and RUclips doesn't defend creators from thieves.
@@EGarrett01 fair enough
he is garbage like you
Yeah well, maybe if he hadn't obsessed over Sssniperwolf. look where that got him.
We had this discussion in RUclips Germany about 2 years ago. What I would like is a "share" function for reactions, so you could give like 30 percent to a creator that u are reacting to. If I would see someone as XQC react on my content i would try to claim it, ngl. What he does is really cringe.
That's pretty smart! Now ik why people from my country go study in Germany,must be a really stimulating enviroment! My country was famous for it's artists and poets but now it's a sh*thole :P
I like the concept of the "share" function, but considering some of the react videos shown in this video, I'd think even 30 percent would be stealing. If I live stream a 2 hour documentary and don't add anything of merit, even 90% to the creator seems unfair to the creator. Though making an easy way for reactors to connect with content creators and decide together what the split would be seems like a great idea. It protects the creators and also allows reactors to more easily find videos to react to in an ethical way. Especially if that monetary split can be built into RUclips so the money is immediately disbursed to both parties in the share they agreed upon.
@@yapparan8147agreed, 30% is nowhere near fair
also so you "could" give them 30 percent? almost nobody will want to do that if it's an option, so the issue will persist. I don't see this working at all unfortunately.
@@johnjson well if it would be a possible thing u can thoroughly establish that its morally wrong to not share, which makes it easier to strike a reaction youtuber for not sharing
What I’ve always loved about jacksfilms is that whenever he features other people's content, he makes sure to give them as much credit as possible, especially when he asks fans to submit videos for YIAY. And when he does do "reaction" style content, he actually does add watch value with how genuinely surprised/impressed he can be with his fans' submissions.
Yeah!!!
While this drama is up I've seen a few people saying things like: "ughh but jack is heavily dependent on other people's content too" - and like??? No??? That's totally different?
First of all - it's all about consent, everyone who gives their answers to Yiay know that they do this to get featured.
Second, for him it's like a no-brainer to shout out people in his videos, he constantly highlights usernames. And he has an actual personality and personal stuff to add to this whole thing.
@@povarenskyhonestly I think that’s why he’s kinds the best person to call these People out
I saw someone mention how like, jacksfilms is youtubes best bibliographer@@ihavenoclueeither
@@povarenskyDarkViperAU is the same with his reddit recap series, he let's the audience knows he's reacting to content made for him by his fans.
DarkViperAU and Jacksfilm should do a podcast or something because those two (I feel at least) care deeply about how RUclips favours these content theives instead of genuine hardworking content creators.
Also it becomes a kind of community content. Where his viewers actually contribute to what they're watching!
I just feel bad for the amazing creators like Lemmino who spend so much time and effort on a video only for 10 reaction videos to spring up and get a significant amount of views that otherwise would have gone to the original creator.
Yeah
Yeah
It’s less likely that those views would go the that specific creator rather than being spread evenly throughout all the other videos on the platform. Nonetheless, it’s would still be worthwhile as no one would be stealing in that case.
This might be an L take but, when i watch react video its either bc i want to see the creators reaction too the video or bc i saw there reaction recommended to me on RUclips. Then if i liked the video they reacted too i would go and watch one of the creators other videos, and if i liked that one i would do it again. And it would keep going like that
@@badbitch9773 The size of the L would depend on WHICH reactor you're watching. If you're watching xQc, that's a massive L. Big fat one. xQc's reactions are so boring.
To me the craziest thing about Reaction Channels is how much RUclips aknocwledges and supports them. It is completelly bollocks because by that, RUclips is basically saying that the top content that RUclips as a platform has to offer is OTHER PLATFORMS CONTENTS. Like seriouslly, we can all give shit to gameplays, vlogs or even gossip channels, but them, to the very least are producing new content instead of literally watching tik toks and saying what they are seeing.
I swear i remember at some point on the video of ludwig interviewing susan (The ex ceo of youtube). She said something among the lines I want to support react content more in the future since ludwig was bitching that he got a lot of copyright claims
It's going to bite RUclips so hard when they keep supporting this because sooner or later some crazy poor person is going to sue say Sniperwolf and RUclips while representing themselves in order to basically bleed them dry of lawyer funds because Lia is stealing content and RUclips actively promotes and platforms her thievery.
youtube loves parasites apparently
RUclips is a for-profit business. If they can get people to essentially rewatch the same video with a reactor, that’s twice the revenue for them or more. Or, if it’s content from another platform, they now get a piece of the profits that other site was seeing. Of course they’d acknowledge and support reactions. It’s good for their bottom line!
That's not what they're saying at all. They aren't saying that reaction channels are the best.
Yeah. My respect for Charlie went up as soon as he admitted his mistake
I wish more creators were able to do that
@@JimmyRobins You wish Creators would go back on their word and react to content on twitch which then gets onto youtube? Charlie went back to doing the thing he acknowledged was wrong
@@rinneganofrage7206 He doesn't though. I watch his streams.
@@Suo_kongque its possible he stopped doing it recently but i see his reactions uploaded to youtube that seem recent
@@rinneganofrage7206 I agree that reaction content is bad, but I dont mind Charlie's kind of reaction videos. He cuts the videos he's reacting, edits it, and adds in commentary along side anecdotes which in turn makes the content he's producing more transformative contrary to what someone like xQc is doing (which is just blatant stealing).
The "exposure" argument is maddening because its disingenuous on its face. They make no effort to steer their own traffic to the original creators. Its just a thing they say in the hopes of silencing criticism.
Even if they did, if they just show the whole thing on their channel without much added to it, few people would actually go to the original creator
Meat Canyon did a great reaction last week. He did a cartoon about xqc that xqc reacted to, so he reacted to xqc reacting to his cartoon, and didn't say a goddamn word the whole time. Just hit play and had his face in the corner and nodded every now and then. Brilliant.
This video has helped me understand what always rubbed me the wrong way about most react content. Like I love watching professionals react to videos on things in their field(attorney reacting to something legal, marine biologist reacting to something on marine life, ect) but things like watching someone just react to a video or show with no real commentary added to it has just always rubbed me the wrong way. It just didn't quite feel right to watch someone just passively make little comments or facial expressions, never pausing to voice thoughts and opinions sometimes correcting incorrect facts, you know adding to the discussion. I can see now that my issue was with the fact that it just felt wrong to not be watching the original bit of content when nothing was being added by the person reacting.
I actually find reactions to shows and movies to be a lot better, simply because they are actually edited videos only showing the best moments, and generally geared towards people who have already seen what is being reacted to. I appreciate in particular some creators (especially BlindWave), who actually post well edited videos containing a sizable review of what they just watched at the end.
@@Durk42 Agreed! I love reactors like BlindWave, since they make theories/predictions about what they're watching.
One of the only Reactors I like to watch nowadays is the Matthews Fam. He often pauses videos and gives his insight on different situations; some videos I could easily point to is him reacting to Weird Al songs. Throughout the videos he pauses and rewinds to highlight particularly clever lyrics, compliment Weird Al's musical know-how, or just laugh at the goofy dance moves.
Back in the day, I was a pretty big fan of Blasphemous HD, as he would often do the same thing. He'd pause videos and give his current thoughts/predictions, or just to make a joke. He also deserves a special mention, as he'd often make a point of cutting parts of the video out, encouraging people to go and watch the original video as well.
I once watched a Historien react to "history of the entire world i guess" and the amount of knowledge he dropped, on an already info heavy original video blew my mind. Actually got me interested to learn more history.
I'm happy someone's talking about DarkViperAU's react series. It's so good but so many people either never watched it or never heard if it
And there was a lot of misinformation about him being unhinged about it yet he was spot on.
This is crazy to me because reaction videos have been an issue on RUclips since 2010. It’s so odd seeing how reacting will become an issue on YT, disappear, then come back like every 3 years. It’s just so fascinating to me seeing it constantly repeat.
it's basically one of the cornerstones of yt content, early yt from =3 to the react bros
tho i do understand that we've come a long way from featuring funny home videos to more people creating content for an audience
I think what a lot of people really have an issue with is how RUclips themselves will do nothing about it. They will push the react content to recommended/trending pages and further boost it in the algorithm … while the original videos they “react” to get stifled in the algorithm and often can’t even get that type of traction. Some have even had their abilities to trend, receive ads, and be recommended be removed for the content it may contain, yet the people that “react” get to keep those features for themselves.
It’s made even worse when RUclips openly puts a spotlight on these channels and props them up as content creators - like they did with Sssniperwolf, but they never reach out to those that put in 110% effort to create content that gets passed around on the platform to begin with. All they care about is the views and subs they have and automatically label them as being a “top creator”.
People have constantly brought up ways to implement a feature that will force “react” channels to link the video they’re watching and have a way for so much of the earned revenue from views go to the original creators, but of course … it goes ignored.
It’s a vicious cycle repeating for a reason, but I’d argue it’s even worse now than it was prior. At least back then, the majority of people were on board with calling it out once it happened. Most people clearly saw the issue and helped shun those that did it. _However_ … now we have people that will actively justify and defend this type of content. People that has been raised on watching Twitch all day, watching other people watch other people. It’s become so normalized that it’s hard to even make a joke about it anymore. I think that’s why this round of the repeating cycle is more vicious with more people talking about it. It’s gone beyond just mere drama that disappears and reappears, and other content creators are trying to get others to continue speaking about it to maybe help enforce a change to where we don’t have to repeat this shit anymore and seeing the cycle as the “norm”. Pair it with AI generated content on the rise (stealing content with AI voiceovers using loopholes with the policy), it’s hurting genuine creators who simply can’t compete anymore.
It's not crazy. Remember America's Funniest Home Videos? You probably don't, but it is essentially a react channel except it's on TV. It's been running for 37(!!!) years. The "react" format is a staple in entertainment, and RUclips has always had a version of it.
Ray William Johnson, the OG react channel, was the first channel on RUclips to reach 5M subscribers; from 2009-2013 he was the most popular channel on this platform until PewDiePie came along.
@every_username_is_taken Reaction content is fine. The problem isn't the format but how it is accomplished by these creators. Talentless hacks who don't add anything nor credit the creator because it takes too much time to actually do that when you need to pump out 50 videos in a set. AFV would also be in the wrong for pirating people's content.
It never went away, and it never will, lol
I’m personally pissed at RUclips about this because, like you mentioned at the end, as a small creator, my channel was completely demonetized for “reused content” despite having never uploaded a single unaltered clip and always giving credit when transforming other creators’ work, and when I applied for appeal, it was rejected. Thanks RUclips! Great video btw
Jay Exci also fought against this "react" content when he fell victim to it from Hazan if anyone remembers. Him, Jacksfilms, and DarkViper have my respect personally.
I think he didn’t mention jay exci because he didn’t want to mention several specific “creators” including Hasan, because he didn’t want to take the chance of backlash from their communities.
Then Hasan had the audacity to smear Jay Exci (a trans leftist), saying that they were a neo nazi, all because Jay called him on his shit
@@computethis1533I mean yea, Jay Exci was branded and called a Nazi when they went up against Hasan.
It's a pretty big risk to take
Makes me kind of upset that DarkViperAU's arguments he made in his long essay and in his videos on the topic were misrepresented or just dismissed because because it was too wordy or something, not to mention that people claimed he compared reactors to rapists, which he literally didn't do. I thought his arguments were very logical and convincing
Yeah that bothered me too. It was clearly hyperbole. If you wanna say it wasn't GOOD hyperbole, fine, that takes two seconds to say and then you can move on to the actual subject matter.
Darkviper has always had strong choices in comparisons, but even then I believe all he said was was something along the lines of if you met a reactor in a bar cover your drink or straight up say you don't want to fuck them, which is not as bad as people made it out
@@atothetacoDarkViperAU said that the concept of "consent" is valuable in any context. Saying that consent never matters is stupid because then it means that it would mean that things like consensual sex wouldn't be necessary.
"huh?!?! someone made a video criticizing me that is longer than 2 minutes?!??! not reading allat!!"
@@baggelissonicthat's pretty decent hyperbole
Gotta feel bad for Jinx, all he had to do was wait a little bit to do his thing lol
Yeah Jinx got fucked, all the people that called him out started doing the exact same shit as soon as he was gone
Or be a pretty girl. Lol.
bro was ahead of his time
easily a top five commentary channel rn, good work
Thank you!
Come to think of it; maybe RUclipsrs should push for the same rules Hollywood movies and TV shows have: Stream it on Twitch and you're getting banned.
In a way, that would help immensely but it would also harm those who DO make transformative content. So we'd have to reply on Twitch actually using their heads to find a middle ground with RULES that EVERYBODY has to abide to....which I don't think they are capable of.
But xqc on his first day of being on Kick he literally streamed Batman the dark knight until a kick employee had to go to his chat and tell him to turn off his stream. He also plays full episodes of a lot of copyrighted anime from Crunchyroll on twitch as well and received 0 backlash or copyright strikes. This is extremely dangerous cause if a corporation took it to court they could easily have twitch/kick taken down screwing thousands of streamers out of their main incomes and xqc will still have his millions to fall back on. It's actually sickening when you think about it.
I want to see him on the streets getting peed on for change
Except streamers on twitch stream full movies all the time
Hate to break it you, but they literally did do this. There was a period of time during the pandemic where big streamers like Pokimane and Hasan were watching full copywrited shows (I believe it was specifically Avatar the Last Airbender) and then threw a hissy fit when another streamer (I think it was Ludwig) basically told them "Hey, this might cause some serious issues." Not once did twitch actually step in.
I’m a big fan of jacks films so I’ve been following his beef with sniper wolf very closely. react content isn’t inherently a bad thing if you have something meaningful and transformative to add however the content made by people like XQC or sniper wolf is disgusting.
Actually Sniperwolf reacts well to almost everything that goes on in her content, she also uploads tiktoks and not documentaries or something. You're just a fan of jacksfilms so you're piling on her.
@@RaniaIsAwesome the last thing I am is biased. I’ve stopped supporting people I’m massive fans of if they turn out to be a bad person. You can’t say watching a video of say, a big spider, and responding with “damn that’s a big spider” is “reacting well”. (Not to mention that she never credits anyone and goes as far as to crop out names.) (not to mention pt2 that her sense of hut or sucks) So either YOUR the biased one or your just very ignorant.
@@RaniaIsAwesomeThat’s not the main problem lmao, it’s that she doesn’t credit the creators and she doesn’t even react to some of the videos
Weird that Jinx got 'cancelled' for his lack of reaction despite being a reaction channel, when so many bigger reaction streamers/channels are doing the exact same thing. Goes to the show the internet has a good memory but bad attention span because i remember when react content was basically purged back in 2016ish...
its so awesome knowing that a content creator can just watch someone else's video, upload a video of them watching it, and then have said creator earn more from that video than i do in a year
You made a great point. There is a difference between knowing your making something transformative and just watching it for first time with a whatever guide for baseline. I think that is a pivotal factor
It's refreshing to see someone specifically reference (and recommend) DarkViperAU's series of video essays without either ignorantly or intentionally misrepresenting them. I was a huge fan of watching Hasan's react videos before I'd ever watched a DarkViperAU video, but his video targeting Hasan was impossible to avoid clicking on. I ideologically align with the politics that Hasan proclaims, but this random guy's video essay made Hasan look like such an entitled, defensive hypocrite that I can't watch any of Hasan's content to this day. The people you refer to as the "everyman's" reaction streamer/RUclipsr are undeniably exploiting the labor that others have done, which in my mind is unethical. Our whole society is based off of labor exploitation, but it's extra gross to see it happening in an area that creators and reactor's alike share a space, and therefore should have more solidarity and not be willing to exploit their fellow man's hard work.
Of course is unethical, it should be common sense not only in your mind. They use the work of others constantly, refusing to put any effort themselves.
As for the political streams and so on are even worse, they are doing the same thing stated in my first sentence but they're also spreading a mob full of hatred against anyone who doesn't share the same views as they do, in what world such thing is fine?
I guess hatred is good when it helps strengthen the forces of some beliefs.
Also it was so petty of hasan to attack dark viper au's looks. Like hasan is so narcissistic and you can see it when he gets mad or defensive. He's like LOT OF WOMEN WANT S*X WITH ME OWWWWWWWWWNED. Or once I saw him say to a twitch commenter your gf or wife however much you think they love you would cheat on you with me. Like that is some manosphere Andrew Tate kind of thing to say. Hasan really thinks he's not toxically masculine because he has a picture of him wearing a dress or he paints his nails sometimes which is the most shallow view of toxic masculinity. He uses people's looks to attack them and he uses s*x or just women in general as status symbols to insult others. You will honestly never see someone's true self until they're mad or defensive and I don't like what I saw from Hasan.
@@AH-vm8yo If this is the one I'm thinking of, the conversation started because the chatter was basically talking like a person from the manosphere. It's a really bad representation of Hasan if this is the video I'm thinking of. Also it's insane how bad this thread misrepresents Hasan and how he does react content.
The lazy way out, is what it is.
I have no problem with people doing it once in a while, but making ONLY content like that and not admitting to it being piggy-backing off other people's work is just dumb and really speaks volumes about your personality for me personally.
At least put in SOME effort and comment on your thoughts to the clip or things you're reminded of, not just sit there like a muppet and once in a while go ah, mhm, oh! You're resting on your laurels at that point, however the hell you got those in the first place....
Yeah it's not "just sharing something with your viewers" when that's what you owe your entire fortune to
@@JimmyRobins Exactly! And sadly there are SO many who do it and see nothing wrong with it, even their audiences to a high degree. That just making me worry for the future of all this. THIS being the norm would be horrible in several ways.
@@JimmyRobinsI'm not sure if I'm nitpicking, but XQC earned his fortune as a professional OW player, then made it huge in twitch with the gambling meta.
He's just coasting now, which makes it more offensive because he just made 100 mill with kik.
Why's he fighting so hard for such small money these people deserve way more than him.
It's funny you mention that react channels only piggy back off content, because you can say the same for this entire channel. If this drama never happened, he would have nothing. He's piggy backing off of events.
Now, if you say "BUT HE's GivINg uS INSIgHT," well, ither reaction channels can also do that.
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 You missed the point as to WHY people call it piggy backing to begin with.
React channels, those people are talking negatively about here, essentially just play clips or videos from other people while not contributing anything but an occassional "Oh!", "Aha." or "LOL did you see that chat?". They do NOT put anything into the video. Commentary and other (the good) reaction channels comment their thoughts, feelings, go on tangents and tells stories they are reminded of by the clip, they throw in their two cents to a topic adressed in the video and ultimately they contribute something to the entire video seen that interests people.
This is VASTLY different from XQC and co just sitting there (or not even being present) and having other people's work entertain their audience on Twitch and co.
Again, we are talking about the people that do not put anything into the video except for other people's content and an occassional word or two. NOT channels that fill 1/3rd or more than half of their entire video with commentary and transformative content. Those two are vastly different from one another. I fail to see how you can miss that crucial point here.
Again, this is all about people who's content consists of OTHER people's work to a ridiculous degree. Saying that commentary content like in this video is the same as XQC playing someone else's video for 1 hour while he goes to take a shit is absolutely ridiculous in many ways.
I think you need to realize that piggy backing is not what you think it means. Not if THIS is seriously your definition of it.
That's like saying Van Gogh stole artwork from Da Vinci simply because both decided to have a sky depicted in their paintings. Similar aspects in the matter does NOT equal the same problem.
You fully demonstrated how "commentary" content differs from "reaction" content. This video offers context, meaningful analysis, and unequivocal value beyond LoOk aT tHiS tHiNg!!
I'm glad the algorithm thought I'd want to see your stuff 😁
ahhh they make me write a message with this
good video
Thank you and thanks for the super!
So cool of you to classify reaction content in these 2 categories , Professional reactors are so informative and don't feed on the trending video with no knowledge.
Well said! I'm a big fan of DarkViperAU! His explanations of react videos and his gaming videos
I like watching him take so many Ls on his GTA challenges lol
@@orenges7034 And get destroyed in Chaos 😂
As someone who used to practice the dark arts of react content, I used to defend myself saying “it was transformative” but after a year of making that content, I realized that people weren’t their for me, they were only there for who I was reacting to. I may have had 10k subscribers, but I didn’t have 10,000 fans. That’s why I stopped. Sure enough, once I stopped reacting, my channel died.
Yup they basically just liked your ability to curate for them better than the algo
@@lunaloveless7234 yep.
That seems like a problem with your audience instead of reaction content.
Also, if you stop doing what your channel is centered around, then your channel will die. That's just commen RUclips sense. Look at Erynith (even her name has a bad taste in my mouth); she used to upload Dark Souls/Bloodborn memes, but then she turned into a toxic political asshole, and now only other toxic political assholes follow her, and her Fromsoft fanbase followers have left her channel. She stopped posting Fromsoft memes, so she lost the people who were there for the Fromsoft memes. Surprise surprise.
@@DoMorrMusic It's kinda like Fanfiction writing, IMO. Not to say that nobody ever reads fanfiction for the merit of the author. But generally your readership will be affected by what you're making fanfiction OF.
@@Bustermachine yep. that's why I make content for me now. it's just that people like it.
The real question is, why is there even a demand for reactors?
Are people really that lonely?
i think so honeslty
SSSniperwolf adds nothing and xQc takes away
Also with VFX artists react, they don't react to the full content and they also react in a way where it's chopped up so much that you have to see the original to really see the thing they're reacting too i think
YESSS ive been waiting for someone to cover this!!!
On the watch parties thing, some RUclips/twitch streamers get us to sync the movie/show with theirs so that we are paying for it and so their stream is 100% commentary
What really irks me about Reaction Channels and their status on RUclips is that smaller channels really can’t get away with it. For smaller channels, even adding a snippet of a movie can get you copyrighted, but for the channels like sssniperwolf and xQC? RUclips just turns a blind eye.
That's the case across the entirety of RUclips. It's not unique to reaction channels.
It’s like those movie recap channels, literally showing the movie while having a bot read the movie script. How the fuck is that allowed?
Only 12k views is a sham, this is an excellent commentary and deserves so much more exposure
It's more than 58k now , hope it goes higher and higher
this video was really well made. the editing, voiceover/commentary, and the way you organized your points were very interesting and easy to understand. this is the first video ive seen from you, and im really impressed. nice work!
Im currently in the mist of making a video discussing about the react war. While mine may be the more lite and grounded version of your video, I absolutely do like your making the clear distinction from a video piece that is informative VS a video that is nothing but the creator going "Thats crazy". Everything said was on point, gained a sub from me!
Hey, just a heads up, it would be great if you could warn or maybe avoid using the flashy filter on clips (the ones in the beginning of jacks film for example) as it’s very optically heavy! That said, I really like this video, just can’t look at some of it oops
The filter is to avoid copyright claims. Agreed on the warning though
This is a really interesting and important topic, reminds me of how big companies get away with using our data. Would be nice for this to be regulated better. Excellent transformative content! lol
This was an awesome video, had my attention the whole time. Was insightful, pointed out other react channels like this, etc. :D
glad the algorithm showed me this channel! your commentary is insightful and i actually love putting it on to listen to as i multitask, though i end up getting distracted and sitting and watching LOL. keep it up (:
Someone I actually see as a textbook quality reactor is Atrioc. Although he’s been on a serious rollercoaster in the past year, his streams/reaction videos have so much input and adds a ton of character
Great work dude. An especially good topic as well!
I dont know how its not obvious to people that people lose out when they have to compete with re uploads of their own video thats straignt up common sense especially if people are only watching the reactor because they wanna feel like theyre watching with with someone. Thats the most common argument i hear for their type of reacting and that just screams "theres no reason to watch the OG video because ive chosen to watch the full video already"
Fantastic video! You expressed yourself so very clearly and covered the topic thoroughly - glad I ran across your channel! (edit: typo 😅)
Another issue is that there are so many “reaction” channels that the actual people that react and give insight on the videos are drowned out
It's funny how this guy just doesn't seem to give any attention to comments like this.
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 what guy?
A comment for the algorithm, good sir.
I just like listening to your videos when im doing other stuff and just realized this was a new one when you mentioned "X"
This apart from Viper's and Jack's video series is probably my favourite video covering react content because unlike a lot of the others it really understands the difference between reaction as commentary as well as understands that in the long run it's about the whole space, not just those two creators. Absolutely a great video man, good job!
JR always bring the 🔥! Most underrated commentary channel.
Hell yeah, Jimmy growing back the hair! Missed the flow.
amazing video, i was sad with penguinz0 originally, but he seemed to have listened the criticisms of his, and since those videos with dark viper really has changed for the better what with the diversification like with comics and esports, wrestling etc, but then again, ive only followed him on youtube so he may still be doing something like reacting with permission on twitch potentially
Considering xQc didn't know what condensation is I'm fairly confident their education is worse up there
Considering you use a sample size of 1 to draw a conclusion; I’d say it’s about the same
@@SanStripes considering you used a sample size of one I'd say it's not.
@@lordteensie6156 lil bro thinks the American education system is better
This is a great video and a great take in general
is that the mario special wii remote in the background? sick
Its definitely a PeepoYay moment seeing people recommend Matt (DarkViperAU)'s Reaction Series, and agreeing with his opinions on the distortionary effects of 'React' content on the wider creator marketplace
its the fact that so many of them dont give a shit while doing it that pisses me off so much providing a link to the original uploader isnt that hard not to mention the fact that reaction videos are more often than not extremely lazy and is essentially saying i dont care enough to be entertaining imo
Wasn't expecting PChal to make an appearance here lol. Great vid as always!
never seen a video from you but this is pretty nice might sub
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This is youtube's equivalent of one person making full blow, beatiful essay and then someone at the end putting his name on it.
great video, wished i watched this sooner. earned my sub
With the Tiktok reactors thing; if they duet/stich a video within the app, it should include the link in the caption, which is easy to see and click. I don't know about others, but when I see react videos on TT, including ones actually adding to the video, I usually like to watch the original video too.
Well I definitely understand the criticism I do think there are some good react RUclipsrs in the “common reactor” category. Especially when they’re reacting to official media like movies or TV shows . One channel I really like have full discussions about the episode after watching it. And there’s others who are just really funny, cut the episodes and tell jokes frequently throughout the video.
This is a very well done video, well done
Reactors are going to hate this idea, but I think a moral way to try and help out smaller creators, that I've seen done before by people like Ludwig etc, is to stop watching before the finale or end point of the video, with line like "if you want to know what happens, go check out their channel, links in the description". This not only shouts the original creator out, directs viewers to watch their content, but also specifically gives an incentive for the audience to do so. I know it's tricky, because it's essentially "blue balling" the audience, but if it works to give the video creator the exposure they deserve, I think it's worth it.
All of this depends on the reactors morals though. Do they have big enough balls to do the right thing?
Well, what happens if something they want to critique is at the ending? As an example, if you ever watches Helleva Boss, the episode Seeing Stars specifically, there's a moment where Luna takes a nut-shot at Blitz. This goes against what she was saying about fathers in general, that her dad (Blitz) is at least trying to take care of her, and genuinely cares about her. If the channel cuts it off here (or maybe even worse, when Luna has a whole paragraph about how her and Octavia should see their fathers), then that would not only cut them off from criticizing the episode, but also the entire series.
So, why not just have it so that the react channels can tell RUclips that they are reacting to a specific video, and have a big portion of the view revenue for the react video go towards the original video?
Ι think a good idea to solve this problem would be to "share impressions" from the react video to the original, so if a react video starts popping off because of the reactor's subscriber views pouring in, those same views could be assigned to the original so it would start popping off too.
The one exception to the “Everyman reaction” that you mentioned is reacting to trailers/ free events.
The reason why is a lot of those events (such as the game awards or Nintendo directs) serve solely as advertising, as they want you to buy their product. They don’t plan to make money off of that ad directly, so a streamer reacting to it actually does help the creator in that case.
it reminds me a lot of the ads i keep getting for genshin impact of literal clips of streamers reacting to the new content trailers
It would be funny if someone reacted to this.
And the reaction was nodding and a few words here and there, and at the end says he thought it was good.
u always be putting out the good shi
There's something I've noticed that not many speak about, but DarkviperAU's 14 pages started this whole debacle and it's unfortunate that Charlie made a video bashing him about it due to him not reading the actual document. This isn't to mention that Charlie is a massive hypocrite in this situation since he still does reactions on his streams and reposts parts on his youtube. I wish youtube would try to do away with react content because that's the only way to kill reaction trash
thank god more people are talking about this
Been waiting for this video, thank you
Thanks for covering this, it’s been an issue for me for quite a while, people on TicToc will grab a snippet of my video and upload it. In one case I had some crazy footage where I fell overboard and it was a whole drama, nonetheless, good viewing, it managed 1k views on my channel, 5 million on a random tictoc account, guess how many subscribers I gained, none, not even credited, and the only reason I know about it is cause my friends saw it, as I don’t have tictoc.
Another great video, Jimmy! I love your channel :)) You bring up an amazing defense for channels like yours that I totally agree with. I say if you can watch the original of something and have a takeaway that's different then a commentary or reaction then you're in the right direction. I also appreciate the difference between transformative reaction and transformative commentary because the former can be done "on the fly". A gynecologist I really like on RUclips, Mama Doctor Jones, I believe does that. It seems to me she finds the clips of content (that she does credit) and uses that specific portion and will talk about it from her perspective as a professional without anything pre-prepared, making it transformative reaction as she does it without a script prepared but also brings something new to the table that I wouldn't have gotten as a viewer without her input. Whereas the channels like yours and the ones you showed as you spoke about transformative commentary have to dig through several sources and write a script beforehand to take existing content and then analyze and synthesize in order to create something new therefore qualifying as transformative. I can't simply watch xQc's entire channel and have come away with the exact takeaway I got from this video you made, which proves how videos like yours are not only ethical but have inherit value to them.
What I don't get is why someone would want to watch someone's "reaction" video when it's not transformative? I would think it gets annoying and distracting to try and watch content yourself for the first time and someone just adds in the occasional "oooo" and "ahhh I see" every once in awhile. Does it have anything to do with people wanting to watch this content in some kind of group setting to be less alone? Or is there something else that'd make it appealing? Because at face value I don't understand why someone wouldn't just want to watch the original especially if it's technically shorter, better quality since it isn't a re-upload, and lacks any distractions via another person "reacting" to it.
I'd get it if the original source was either unreachable to an audience (such as being banned in their country) or if they were avoiding paying for it (not that I condone it, but I get why people would be willing to watch lesser quality if they could see a movie for free, for example). But a video on RUclips is accessible to everyone is most cases, right?
As for exposure, it kinda sounds like maybe for really small channels it might get them attention, even help "blow them up", but mid-sized channels it only serves to hurt their revenue. Even so, if you're not being transformative in your work then I don't see how it's protected by the fair use policy.
But if these reactors genuinely wanted to support other creators then a collab would be the better option, right? That's how I find other creators at least.
These reactors who aren't transformative I think will end up out of a job soon. To be honest, I may be missing something big since I don't fully understand their appeal in the first place, but I genuinely do not see how this "job" wont be utterly replaced by AI here shortly. But people who actually transform work can't be fully replaced by AI.
I know AI is a discussion in of itself and this barely scratches the surface of the topic, but I do wonder how AI is going to change these everyman "reaction" channels as Jimmy calls them. Maybe they'll even switch to using AI themselves and do even less work than they do now, I wonder? I imagine someone is going to attempt to set up a bot that searches for content to reupload with a AI bot that "reacts" to it in "their style" and then puts that video up on their channel all on its own without the original "creator" having to lift a finger. While I do think AI can be used a positive tool, I think it can be exploited in some nasty ways and both are worth talking about.
Really Good Video , Everything Said In The Video Is 100% Correct .
If You're "reacting" To Something You have To Add To The OG Video but If You're Not & Barley Adding Anything Than You Shouldn't Be Reacting .
Its Like Those People Who Put Their Face Under A Meme And Stares Into The Camera Or Sit In Silence While A Clip Is Shown … You're Not Adding Anything
great video, and yes pretty much!! and it is even worse, it is a stream then just re-upload the part to youtube....
Like tf!
also yes, I will be calling twitter X because of that grown up child ugh
17:56 I think the line should remain blurry, as stated by Tom Scott in his video "RUclips's copyright isn't broken, the world's is" and disputes on the blurred line be resolved on case by case basis.
I actually didn’t know about how bad the reaction channel field is until jackfilm’s uploads on sniperwolf. I feel so stupid.
I totally agree about there being two different types of reaction channels, though even in your "Everyman" react videos you can get some generally good content, though much like many things on RUclips you have to dig, I personally enjoy reaction videos, as I watched the original video, and I want to see what someone else thinks, theorize etc. How I often tell the good from the worst is usually length. original video is ten minutes, the react video better be twenty or thirty.
When you consider the line "I get my ideas from my fans" then its ironic that we have this beef between Sniperwolf and Jack's Films. His content has definitely been inspired by his fans like with the your grammar sucks or LWIAY series that couldn't be made without his fans. Sniperwolf is getting help steal from fans, or stealing from fans, while Jack is adding his own creative flair to what he's given by his fans.
This video needs to be seen by lots of people
Good content Jimmy
GREAT researchand video m8 ...i would also recommend looking into EFAP and Jay exci on this topic for anyone who has the time. Jay still to this day having one of the best videos on the subject, revolving around the previous wave of freebooting push-back between Hasan and herself and EFAP covering it for around 40+ hours (Covering Hasan, responding to Denims and Ahrelevant, and covering the Xqc vs Ethan debate) and MauLer, main host of EFAP himself debating xqc and Destiny on the debate prep stream.
Jay has a more chill stance and EFAP going hardcore focuding on the principles of freebooting content.
Fantastic analysis.
Your video on this issues is so insightful and very well edited. I hope you'll grow bigger as a creator.
But please, this is important, don't be a weirdo. Don't EVER talk to your fans inappropriately. Happened too many times...
Great video but one thing missed that I think is insanely important is to point out that at least until (maybe) platforms like RUclips get around to taking action on this, the VIEWER needs to be accountable for the aspect in which we are able to control, by NOT WATCHING obviously ripped content and vocally denouncing guilty parties.
RUclips should implement a special category of video publishing, where if you reacted to a content, you would select "Reaction" and link the video(s) you reacted to.
This way RUclips would split the revenue share and pay those creators as well (as long as they normally get paid), and show their videos to your recommended tab after watching a reaction of them.
And we will also know when a popular (or any) "content" creator puts their reaction videos under that category. It wouldn't be surprising to see people not select that category and hog all the revenue to themselves and be exposed for it. This way, even when the "react" content is absolute turd, at least we will know if the creators get paid.
oh, the video? *damn, thats crazy*
I saw a comment similar to this after writing this, I'm sorry I didn't know they wrote it, I'm not stealing I swear! D:
I think the fact that streamers got so brazen they tried freebooting tv shows is extra insane
i would say movie or tv show reaction channels that debate and theory craft are slightly different as well
keep up the good work, good video
this is why i like channels like ReactToTheK so much; not only are their reactions interesting and sometimes funny, they also teach me new things or give insights into the music and videos they're reacting to
You need to find a new reaction channel to watch
@@illpunchyouintheface9094 why, what happened? (i haven't been watching them or keeping up with them lately)
Did you get a new camera? Visuals look great!
Same one but thank you!
A while back, a German RUclipsr did a series of time intensive and long videos that were really popular and had lots of reactions, some uploaded pretty quickly/reacted to almost immediately on twitch, so he asked the react channels to wait (a week? I don’t remember) before uploading to RUclips so his video didn’t have to compete with theirs and they adhered to that ask afaik. So it can be done without harming others. This way the original creator gets their reward for their hard work and you can still get your favorite react RUclipsrs input if you so wish
11:22 Internet Anarchist's video dips less on the day of the freebooting compared to the steeper downward slope before, not making a case for freebooting but I'm just saying they misinterpreted the graph
Great video
6:08 thing is that the people who ask for these reactions rage out whenver someone pauses the video. Its not just the reactors themselves, although, obviously, they are the main responsible people, but its the viewers that demand the people to be played straight through and with no imput. That is where the term "Pause Andy" comes from, a derogatory term for reactors that pause the video they are watching too much.
Personally, I blame China, the US, the EU, Canada and Russia. Not entirely sure about Africa yet.
xQc especially sucks because you can tell he's NEVER had to worry about money in the slightest, and he genuinely thinks the idea of people working incredibly hard for just a few bucks is funny and ridiculous, not scary. he simply cannot fathom the concept of working for your money.
That zinger at the end left me feeling emotionally distributed.