Sport BJJ: Good Enough Self-Defense? Or Dangerous Fighting Habits? - Kama Vlog
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I believe sport jiu jitsu would get you hurt in real fight. That's why I switched gym from Atos to Gracie jiu jitsu. Peace and Love
I train sport and was able to apply self-defense. Jiu-Jitsu is Jiu-Jitsu.
@@rand_-mk5lb no, it's definitely not. how can you defend yourself when you don't practice stand up? majority of sport bjj schools don't, you can't deny this fact. you lucked out
@@quickstep2408 Pretty sure a lot of the good ones train wrestling these days and throw Judo in for good measure.
Well said 👏👏
The world needs to know the difference between sport and self defense bjj..
Love the focus on street self-defense, not sport. Awesome video as always!
"Every once in a while, I'd have to take a beating. But by then, I didn't care. The way I saw it, everybody takes a beating sometime...." - Henry Hill, Goodfellas
Love this philosophy. I think it captures the essence of old school BJJ.
I worried about my grandson in our local "sport" BJJ gym for a short time, until he got into a real fight, did a takedown, mounted, and pounded. I had to grab him off the other kid. No worries, most "sport" BJJ technique can be used in real fights. He was only a white belt with one year training.
Good job!
That’s good. Most sport practioners will be fine against an untrained person. They’ll shoot in for the perfect takedown and get the guy down. The problem with that though is a fight is unpredictable. If a sport guy ends up on his back because he slips or maybe gets taken down by a good wrestler and he’s never trained how to defend punches from guard he’s going to be in trouble. Maybe the sport guy gets grabbed by surprise and has no idea how to escape. Again he will be in trouble.
in one year Judo training, the fight is over with one seoi nage on concrete.
interesting ,but I have to point out that any completely untrained person can put his head down, run and tackle some one, then sit on top of him and rain down punches? How many times did I see this growing up, long before I had ever heard of "ground and pound"? A larger, more athletic or more aggressive person can usually impose their "game"on some one athletically inferior or unprepared..so what? the essence of self defense is being able to deal with situation when you have all the disadvantages. How many times did i see people be able to stop the first surprise punch (and im talking about face to face) in those same street fights i saw growing up? Not many if any. This kind of situation takes training to deal with realistically and BJJ has given me that edge on several occasions.
Its true that most BJJ techniques will be effective in the street. However, many of those techniques have fatal flaws that may not be apparent in a sporting context.
I absolutely love and agree with the points you make in this video! This has filled in the gaps in my mind as to the issues I was having with BJJ. Turns out I go to effectively a club, and that's one reason I'm frustrated with it. No curriculum and no beginner classes. Thank you also for the spot on self defense perspective!
YES! Match vs Fight! thanks for clarifying unko.
I started training in Jeet Kune Do at 15 and it made my Judo better because I was able to defend myself standing up also then taking the fight to the ground.
Sport jiu jitsu and self defense jiu jitsu are different. I have trained in both and I'll give a subtle example of how they differ. Take a basic triangle choke in sport bjj we were taught to secure the triangle and then reach underneath and hook the individual's leg on the same side as your "bite" leg. The problem with that is as you reach you're setting yourself up to be possibly punched in the face.
Meanwhile in GJJ we are taught to be mindful of the potential punches and if necessary use your arms to defend while shoulder walking back to secure a proper triangle.
When doing sport BJJ Inwas told over and over to never do this in a street fight which told me all I needed to know about sport BJJ
you're exactly right.
btw, i think your name is cool!
"D"-Eric, DEric, not just "an" Eric, but THE Eric!
@@KamaJiuJitsu thanks! I'm looking forward to training with you guys one day when I am in Texas visiting family or if I can ever make it down the road to Irvine.
come on by!
Fact: the way you train is exactly the way you will respond in a real street fight. If you train in bjj sport and when you get in a street fight YOU WILL RESPOND WITH BJJ SPORT. if you think you will respond with bjj self defense or anything else you got another thing coming. It's called muscle memory. Neuro memory
that's why sport bjj is quite dangerous for self defense. since most sport bjj gyms in the world neglect stand up and encourage pulling guard, buttscooting, going staight to the ground, that's what they will automatically do in a self defense situation.
if you want to train self defense train mma, if you want to get better at grappling train jiu jitsu
The biggest mistakes ALL JJ schools make and it doesn’t matter if it’s Gracie school or not is not doing enough takedowns and all the rolling from the Knees. All fights start from standing and you have to know takedowns and even defend takedowns.
You’re absolutely right.
Kama Jiu-Jitsu I understand not letting beginners start live training from standing because of the higher injury potential (imo all beginner sparring should be positional controlled sparring) but when u get to blue belt live sparring should start from standing as much as possible if the space is available.
I do think “sport JJ” has its value. It’s always evolving and keeps people interested wanting to come back for more. It’s a fun game. Schools have to just make sure to balance it out and not forget the main purpose people come to learn from a school is for self defense.
In my utmost humble opinion.
Totally agree, and what is said here transcends any
“ sport/martial specific system” and should be implemented regardless of the arts practiced.
“ it is the practitioner that defines the art” and again, the truth is ready available for everybody to hear if they let go of ego and dogma, as body mechanics and logic( ie common sense) should be applied on all levels when it comes to learning the science of fighting. One needs to be deemed capable, and that includes being able to strike from all positions, as well as learn basic standup/ wrestling/ grappling/ clinch/ground( Especially how to reposition and get back up)
“ Perfect practice makes perfect “
“ self perfection/ self preservation are two sides of the same coin”
“ Everything goes in the land of make believe”
“ nothing more dangerous than the illusion of self delusion”
-Chinese proverb.
A joy to hear your thoughts on these matter sir.
Sincere regards.
Fellow martial artist.
Tom Framnes.
Norway.
A lot of people miss what is in traditional martial arts. Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is a traditional martial art it teachs how to defend from a strike with Jiu-Jitsu. Me personally I like to train Japanese Jujitsu and Kajukenbo with my BJJ. Also I train Kickboxing. Cross train with your Jiu-Jitsu with other arts and stop saying traditional doesn't work because with out traditional you wouldn't have self-defense or Jiu-Jitsu.
If self defence is your goal, would you rather train sport BJJ or Japanese Jiu Jitsu? My country has no GJJ affiliate
I think if you do sport bjj but have your game based on takedowns/top game that will be the best self defense
Maybe
Interesting. I live in an area that only has 1 gym. It's focus is sport, but defense is sprinkled in as they can as we have police who are there for the defense and don't compete. I try to supplement with Kama YT vids! I must say, slams should be done to train us to release guard. I got slammed by a new wrestler, no injuries but it got me thinking to be conscious of it rather than trusting in the rules of sport.
Just let it go, brother. Keeping guard is never worth a potential slam. Lots of other options if you have to give up the closed guard.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Indeed. Something we're not taught at my gym but something I'm now working on on the side!
Soon to be 62 training since early 70's. Bruce Lee planted the seed in the 60's. Growing up in NYC it was always about street survivalI. Bjj is 1 component of total self defense system . I've rolled with plastic knives,simunitions,shockknives and they will bring your training to another level. Tactics fight or flight.
If you aren't learning throws and takedowns and also on the opposite spectrum how to defend them, then your jiujitsu is incomplete... period. How can you do any ground techniques if you can't even get someone to the ground? Also, if you don't know how to fall correctly, your jiujitsu is incomplete. Just like one of my Professors says while pointing to her black belt "Don't try to be a person to get one of these and you can't even fall or get back up safely off the ground"
Good words!
Who’s your professor?
@@KamaJiuJitsu, I train under a few different black belts. But the main Professor and the one that said that is Professor Miriam Cardoso
I agree with what you are saying in the video - I can think of a million reflexes I have built up as a sports practitioner that would get me punched in the face on the street, even from a dominant position for me. I suppose one way to look at it is that there is something missing from the schools' BJJ curriculum. But in my experience 90% of BJJ gyms are also MMA gyms and your subscription is all access - so wouldn't somebody that is primarily interested in self-defense just fill those holes by going to MMA/grappling sessions where strikes are part of training? Do you think that this approach is a mistake on the part of the schools and that they should specifically include self-defense elements into actual BJJ training instead of assuming students will understand the need to also train MMA for self-defense?
The old, sport BJJ vs Gracie Jiu-Jitsu debate lives on!!! What I appreciate about Gracie Jiu-Jitsu (Torrance, CA), and, I'm sure Kama Jiu-Jitsu is that they DO NOT MISLEAD anyone by saying they are something that they are NOT!!! They clearly, at EVERY TURN, let you know that their entire core of learning and philosophy is SELF-DEFENSE FIRST!!! And if you're interested in competing, perhaps their school is NOT a good fit. Unfortunately, that is NOT true of certain schools. I've got absolutely NO problem with ANY other school so long as they are UPFRONT with their new 'potential' students about their training objectives. But to lie to their faces and claim that they teach self-defense is BS!!! For some schools, it's ALL about the $$$-ABOVE honesty. I don't want to get those other comp schools angry at me by naming them because it serves no purpose, but I'd just wish they'd NOT MISLEAD people.
Thank you master , the best advice ever
Self-defense was the focus of GM Helio Gracie, yet so many think It is okay to dismiss it. Whether you compete or not has never been the issue. Whether or not you can defend yourself and others against violence on the street or a home invasion. Can you defend against weapons or at least two people is the question? I've had to supplement my bjj with the Self-Defense Unit and GM Helio Gracie's First 40 Lessons. Do what you gotta do to be able to defend yourself and others.
If you're watching this and feeling confused, as to what you actually need to do to make your bjj work in a real fight.
Which this guy does a great job of avoiding talking about the specifics for some reason.
All you need to know from guard is how to break posture, you should be able to completely break your opponent down to where they are not able to hit you.
Your hips should be on top of their hips you squeeze you're knees on the ribs and pull towards you, you get an over hook on one side and control the head on the other side.
That way the opponent can't hit you, from there you'd rather be on your side (not flat), the over hook side should be up, then you can control the other arm and start attacking.
You should look into something called Williams guard in my opinion it's perfect for self defense.
In general any guard where you have an over hook and you and head control with your opponent close to you is pretty good, I think clamp guard and Williams gaurd are the Best, there's also the Irish collar and rubber guard.
Bjj scout made a great video about it called trap guarding.
I remember watching this video a long time ago and feeling frustrated because i didn't know how make my bjj street effective and I watched so many of his videos hoping I'd find the answer, but it's all theoretical.
he doesn't give examples, so I've been researching this for the last couple of years.
Hopefully this was helpful to someone out there. Cheers
Great!
Now everyone go practice your 10,000 repetitions and become flawless at this.
Oh, wait. You’ll now have a self-defense Jiujitsu guard “game” at that point.
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Adam zoabi
so this is only when it goes to the ground... you didn't talk AT ALL about the stand up portion of self defense, you know, how it will most likely start? or how you got into that position in the first place... something that you 'avoided talking about'.
you typed before you thought this through, that's ok! we all do it sometimes. just use your head next time. stay safe bud
Another fantastic video.....
Yess we start often from the feet when we roll and incoorporate wrestling n throws into the curriculum. I m mostly after the basics because i train mostly for self defense and that s what the fundamentals are for. The only "fancy" concept i m after is the rubber guard. But nontheless i still tryout some delariva guard stuff for example from time to time because it makes fun
I am a GJJ guy. I believe that if you master the fundamentals of GJJ it will take you further in jiujitsu and in life then BJJ - competition techniques. To include competition! I am living proof
This sport wont work in the street talk drives me crazy. lol cant we all just be jiu jitsu - yes judo players im talking to you too lol. but how quickly we forget about the vale -tudo guys the boys from carlos -carlson gracie -Ricardo liborio camp.( the bull dawgs team lol ) with out those guys sport jiu jitsu / mma would not be where it is today. and i think there sport jiu jitsu would work in the streets that style of jiu jitsu is amazing and those guys helped build sport jiu jitsu.. idk different erra i guess. . how ever those late years in the 90s and early 2000s was a crazy time for mma and bjj. now im a little bias because my instructor is under that camp. but i dont know.. im 35 train in all sorts of styles i lovee bjj cant we all just get along. weather sport or self defenses lets make the world a better place thru jiu jitsu.. lol great video again man great stuff cheers..
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My black belt bjj coach has been teaching bjj for at least 10 years in his school and he doesn't have a specific curriculum, everyone shows up at 8pm and he teaches us some moves we drill and the we roll.
Does that mean our school is not a school?
Mind you my coach is one of the first few black belts in the country (I recently found that out).
I keep waiting for someone to walk up and pick a fight with Professor Young.
Pretty sure Ryan would walk away from any idiot getting mouthy. If they were dumb enough to put hands on him that would be another matter.
i certainly would walk away (as i'm protecting myself) these days!
but up into my early 30s, i wouldn't walk away from one, i'm sad to say. (and i'm certainly not proud to admit).
i would try to goad people into fighting me. luckily for both parties, the other party would see my eagerness to engage, and some sort of alarm bell in their head would go off and they'd back up. of course, i was never stupid enough to chase/rush a guy, so in those instances, the fight was avoided.
thankfully.
Agree with most but disagree with some your points.If you do not have the first clue on how to properly close the distance you could be knocked out before it hits the ground, as I know of a purple belt that this happened to. Any good instructor should include basic self defense like distance management, takedowns, and some striking on the ground. I believe with this basic self defense knowledge that many JJ guys do not know like you said, even someone with 9-12 months of consistent training can take on most untrained guy unless there is a very big difference in size/strength/athleticism. Something I do disagree with you on is that the guard is a bad position for self defense. Closed guard is not an ideal position, however I think that open guard is great for self defense and honestly as I am not very confident with my takedowns I would rather get on my butt and defend from open guard as I am confident with open guard. I think it is much harder than it looks for someone untrained to be able to stomp you and kick you while you are in open guard. But that is my opinion from my experience and am willing to hear your opinion on this.
My fellow bros are to worried about self defense. If you train sport jiu-Jitsu your gonna be fine considering the vast majority of Americans are out of shape / don’t train / get tired walking up stairs. We got nothing to worry about.
Liking to fight off of your back does not equal not knowing how to fight on top.
If you're currently train in the sports aspect of your respective martial art, don't cry or freak out, and do not think that you've wasted your time. If you stick with it and put in the work, you're going to find out what works and what doesn't. If you're at good at the sports style, you'll have a great foundation to go into the traditional style of it, so you can complete the art. That's my 2 cents
It’s certainly better than nothing (as being athletic is better than being a couch potato), but we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Thank you for responding to my comment! I appreciate it.
Love it.....feel based!
What i've learned from this comment section is that the bjj community is still quite fragmented. just focus on the people you want in your life that inspire you to be the best martial artist and that are constantly re-enforcing the reason of why you took up your martial art in the first place. but i do agree that lineage is important to know, and it's interesting to see how bjj has evolved over time.
I started off boxing and am now interested in doing bjj. The most convenient gym to me is a Gracie Barra in Sydney Australia. I hope to do a free trial soon, but from what I heard the Gracie Barra branches are more sport based than say a Gracie humaita school, which is said to be more traditional and self defence based. And this topic is what I’m afraid about...does anyone have any first hand experience with the gb curriculum, esp on the self defence aspect?
Good advice!!!
Uke Squad checking in. Such a shame so many schools place more emphasis on the sport BJJ. I've been to three schools and they all promised I would learn self defense and none of them delivered on the promise. Last weekend I went to the Gracie Immersion camp in Orlando and it was the best 3 days of training I ever had. After that I decided I would just practice BJJ in my garage with a few friends, following the Gracie University DVDs, until a school opens up in my area that will put self defense over trophies and medals.
Where do you live ?
I guess it's hard for me to have an opinion because I'm biased, one because I go to a sport you jitsu school, but also I've trained other in other self-defense techniques like japanese jiu jitsu and krav Mata, I've also gone all the Gracie combatives course, and I have MMA gloves and roll with the punches. So I say for me, the sports you jitsu is okay for self-defense because I do supplement with other stuff.
Matthew Van Helden then its not ok if u have to supplement with other stuff
@@sliderx1897 bro, reading comprehension. his last sentence said that sports bjj is ok for self defense BECAUSE he supplements with other stuff. he never said that is was effective by itself. you follow now? it's been 2 years and i really hope you've gotten better at this.
@@quickstep2408 this guy responds to a 2yo comment like hes making a point. Lol bro i dont even remember what this video is about nor do i really care
My son just started BJJ with a guy who's lineage comes down from Rolls Gracie- would you say that this would be close to what Rickson teaches? We are in BFE Montana, so choices are very limited.
hard to say, since Rolls died decades ago and Rickson's Jiu-Jitsu has evolved tremendously since then.
Thing is.. I dont think a sport bjj dude would jump guard in a fight, it’s common sense. Bjj teaches you how to handle other persons, that goes a long way against a random dude in the streets, in my humble opinion.
you do what you're trained to do. repetition breeds habit.
Kama Jiu-Jitsu Thats true, and i agree, but in the back of your head i think there is a little voice telling you ”thats concrete man, dont risk getting slammed, and first of all; disengage”. But i still think bjj gyms should have the habit of atleast explaining to people the dangers of certain positions outside of competition.
My friend was attacked by a white belt in the changeroom in highschool.
This guy got offended, and jumped closed guard, on linoleum. Btw, he was about 170lbs, my friend was maybe 110.
So Mr bad sport BJJ ate a few dozen punches to the face before he was gently lowered to his back, where he finally achieved a sweep, and Mount.
There being twenty odd people watching, he didn't ground and pound, and just left, technically winning the fight.
Moral of the story, don't underestimate how stupid people are, or how much training affects what you're actually do.
Connor Wiebe I bet there are 1000 stories out there with bjj dudes not jumping guard, but then again; if one does it its one too many. I dont think I have ever jumped guard in sparring or competition, it feels super wierd.
15:09 LAWL!!! smooth-jitsu
Competition makes good fighters
My problem with bjj self defense... the answer is bjj centric. When bjj may not be the best solution.
Nothing is always the best solution. For us, the key is finding one present the best solution most of the time. Other martial arts are much too specialized.
I think my gym is sport based only. Self defense has never been brought up in my first week. I would however like to learn how to self defend along with the sport. It is the only gym within an hour drive so it's my only option. Is there any outside source to "supplement" my sport training with self defense?
How do you feel about 10th planets system being sport and self defense since Eddie developed this system and most notably rubber guard for mma?
Will Calkins i wonder what everyone thoughts are on this too. I currently train at a10P gym and I feel like we only cater to competition training and not real life situations.
MBP MAVIC I started at 10th planet .Great school. Great instructors Great people. But I left because there wasn’t a self defense curriculum..self defense was my reason for starting JJ. I am now at a Relson Gracie Academy.
Idk how it cant be self defense when it was specifically designed for mma but I get where you all are coming from...if you guys dont mind me asking are you learning from a black belt under Eddie or one of Eddie's black belts black belts
Not me saying this, but... ruclips.net/video/XGhzN-5gEvY/видео.html
Will Calkins I train under one of Eddies black belts. Don't get me wrong, I do like the comp aspect of it, but I would not likely be doing an imanari roll to heel hook in a real life situation.
Do those sport BJJ guys not know how to do takedowns or are they just not doing them in a competition where the risk/reward isnt worth it? Average Joe wont be able to stuff a low level takedown.
Some schools work on them, some don’t. Most people start their “roll” on their knees, day in and day out. That in itself is not necessarily a bad thing, provided they have time to do regular takedowns/landings during the week.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Yea, I always figured even those schools taught some basic takedowns and worked them from time to time. My thought was those would work with non trained attackers.
As far as self-defense goes, I'd rely on something along the lines of what PFS does, mixed in with catch wrestling. The stick and knife stuff in Gracie bjj is laughable, downright dangerous.
It certainly is versus someone who is trained in stick and knife fighting.
no jiujitsu guy WANTS to fight off their back, and no jiujitsu guy (i believe) would ever be sitting down or pulling guard in a real life altercation. we all know top is best. top top top, if you're underneath you're losing.
having said that i believe the two best techniques for self defense: foot sweep and standing guillotine. these two could end a fight quickly without putting yourself in a compromising position.
thoughts?
Which bjj is best for mma?
How much of the concept of “connection” can be taught vs. how much do you just have to pick up from rolling and feeling?
it's pretty much all taught, from my experience. i MAY have picked up on a segment of it on my own subconsciously, but in my case, it was taught to me by Dave. He'd have to tell you if he picked it up on his own training with Rickson, or if Rickson taught it to him, as well.
First of all UFC exploded yes Jiujitsu created it and it’s also creating Jiujitsu,
Along with every other martial art.
In the old days I would train jujitsu . we put boxing gloves on and train taking each other down and slipping punches putting our head in the refrigerator so to speak etc. a blue belt that’s doing this is going to do a lot better than one that isn’t that’s for sure. At the same time the new Jiujitsu is the MMA fighter that’s the superhero now. Still love Jiu Jitsu I’m not knocking it it’s just a fact. With that said how many fights do you get in if you’re not looking for a fight? Do what you love follow your passion no matter what it is.
I would like to know more about the difference between Gracie Barra and Gracie jujitsu. There is a Gracie Barra next to me in Northridge, California but I don't know if they do more self defense or sport. Are the Gracie Barra schools and Gracie academy's similar?
Not similar
Gracie Barra = Carlos Gracie Jr. = more sport.
Gracie Academy = Helio Gracie lineage = self defense
that point about a tournament match vs a fight, I have always said this. But I am not sure if this was just a mistranslation from somebody who didn't speak english well, or just brazilian/Gracie mentality of how they perceive things. I always thought back to Helio Gracie saying he "fought" somebody, but it was just a grappling match, no striking, or limited striking.
What do you think of Eddie Bravos Combat Jiu Jitsu? Open palm strikes
We like the concept. Much better than straight BJJ competitions.
On what planet is 5% of the population an upper level martial artist (even if you're only sampling males age 15-35)? I'm including boxing and wrestling in this.
Well, the only planet I know of with the population on it is Earth. What other planets are you thinking of? As far as that 5% of the population number you refer to, I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Maybe you can elaborate?
@@KamaJiuJitsu 5:09 you mention a purple belt should be able to handle 95% of attackers. I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, just the numbers. I would say the number is much higher. Of course, the Grand Master probably associates with a different crowd than I do.
He might still have had Brazil in his mind at the time. Mind you, this was almost 30 years ago when this conversation took place.
Thanks for the perspective coach.
the way you train that's the way you will respond in a real street fight. THE SAME RULE WORKS IN REVERSE: if you train in self defense bjj and then you enter a bjj sport tournament you will RESPOND WITH DELF DEFENSE BJJ!!!!! thus you will LOSE THE MATCH every single time!! because you don't train in bjj sport. meanwhile your opponent trains in bjj sport everyday for years....he knows what to do very fast..but you have to pause and think of what to do because your muscle memory is not geared for bjj sport but self defense bjj. You get it?
I think you have a point, to an extent.
There just aren’t enough traditional guys who enter tournaments. Unfortunately, the only examples of people who trained traditional who did well that I have at the top of my head are Ryron and Kron.
Hopefully, as time goes on, KJJ will change that thinking.
@@KamaJiuJitsu good point. I agree
How do you know your gym or club is sport or defence?
Another thing that worries me. But I am new and know nothing.
When i see people laying on their back if i can do a knee slice between their leggs then i can also do a kick or knee in the balls. Ends a real right very quick. I find it not so easy to lay like that. Am i missing something?
Also attacking by jumping up and throw my leggs around his middle. I am afraid to get a knee between my ....
Sometimes BJJ feels great and i like it. But sometimes i think is this move safe on the streets....
Yesterdsy i see a movie from a black belt laying on his back feets above his achoulders, arms and hands behind his leggs.
Waiting for his attacker and i think are you sure this safe on the street?
If what you described above is what you see in your club, it is sport.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Hi, no it wasnt my school. Some well known BJJ YT teachers.
Wow If you do not know if it is sport or self defense, then it is sport. Easy.🙏
What are your thoughts on the Namajunas fight with her getting dumped on her head when not letting go of an arm lock?
That was her fault. She took a risk, it didn’t pay off. It’s not like she didn’t know her opponent was trying to take her down.
@@KamaJiuJitsu I thought so too. I'd just like to say that it was your videos that helped me decide on a Jiu Jitsu school when i started just over a year ago. I'm currently 4 stripe white belt going for my combatives in the next few months hopefully.
Seriously? That’s awesome!
Love your content. . But the music in the background is very distracting
Ryan had a time crunch so filming at the local cafe had to do! We shot some in a far quieter place. - Rusty
Hi Professor Ryan. WHere can I get one of those cool T-shirts you're wearing? Can I buy one off of the Kama Jiu Jitsu website? Thanks.
Hi, Tom, plse message me at KamaJiuJitsu@gmail.com with the size you wear and I’ll let you know what we have in stock.
Wrong question. Not is it 'good enough', but is it 'appropriate'. You covered this somewhat, with the part about not wanting to fight on the ground. Id say the main issue, is that self-defense prioritizes disengagement and escape, while BJJ prioritizes engagement and winning. I think BJJ fosters an inappropriately aggressive attitude, which is why its *always* BJJ guys and 'MMA' knuckleheads, that end up 'forced' to choke out a drunk, or some guy that's never been in a real fight before, while his buddy films it. 99% of fights, could've been walked away from by either party, for the low, low price of a little pride. The wealth of such videos is the primary contributor to the errant notion that its the 'best' martial art and the only 'real' martial art and that TMA, is 'fake'. The best system, is the one with smallest footprint.
How much does the self defense and general curriculum defer from one Gracie to the other if any for example Helio sons is there much difference between them curriculum wise?
General concepts the same between Relson, Rickson, Rorion, and Royce. They’ve been very faithful to their father’s original philosophies, although you’ll see some variations between all of them in minor ways conceptually.
Rickson adds a LOT with his additions, though.
Kama Jiu-Jitsu Royler Rolker Robin ? Also included in previous statements?
Very True!! That how I like to train with people I put my self 1 level over them. That way I can work my b,c,d,e stuff while the jr are getting better on their a game.
LOL @ thinking a "Sport" BJJ guy has no idea how to do take downs or is stupid enough to sit down and butt-scoot or pull guard in a street fight.
This is not too far off the mark from what I've seen.
that's because you've been around the block several times.
Regardless what you think in your mind you will do what you have trained 1,000 times to do in the gym or academy. Sport guys don't like to here this and get all butt hurt about it.
@@dragonballjiujitsu Where do people get the idea that academies that are known for having good competition BJJ teams teach zero self defense?
@@joeschmoe9154 Well generally speaking why would a team that is trying to do well in competition train self defense? That's not what they are going to be doing. And you have limited time to train. That's not to say that some hardcore competition schools don't go over some basic self defense stuff the first few classes but its normally not their focus. I get the idea based on about 20 years of Jiu-jitsu and about 30-40 different schools I have visited with and trained at during that time as well as from dozens of black and coral belts I'm personal friends with. Where do you get your ideas?
Ryan @kama jujitsu i want you to answer me a question honestly,altho im not sure you can even if you wanted to,But im gua ask anyway,i have v.i.p to ricksons self defence so i have every part now wat i want to know is 1 will it really work for me in a real fight 2is it wat rickson really teaches his students 3is it really sincere from rickson i mean is it the real deal like wat he would teach somone he wanted to pass knowledge onto and not just a money making enterprise,can i really build a good jujitsu game with that as my foundation is it the real deal.thank you if you could take your time to reply to me and as honestly as you can.
1. Yes, 2. yes, among many other things, 3. yes.
@@KamaJiuJitsu thank you for the reply i did not mean to come across arogant if i did at all but were i live jujitsu is hard to come by and im now 35 and time is against me so i want to make sure i have the correct tools to build my game on as i totaly beleive in the self defence concept it is the only way in my book thank you.
i didn't take your question as such.
@@KamaJiuJitsu ok no problem,great content you guys put out by the way love the channel i think its very important you guys keep pushing self defence out there keep up the good work. PS get your back sides to the U.K soon
@@KamaJiuJitsu And is this really Ryan young im speaking to.
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Thoughts on Professor Machado?
Lol, there’s like 5 of them that are THE Machados, and then there are others.
Lawrence Scott Which One? 😂
A NFL player doesnt know how to survive from his back IF he has to.
Self defense 1 on 1 yeah...2+ on 1 no
2 on 1....you run away!! Or grab anything that's around you and use it as a weapon. (a stick., a rock, an umbrella, a bottle etc)
Working and hanging at a lot of clubs when I was younger, I've seen A LOT of people get jumped. The guy getting jumped almost always got knocked to the ground eventually, no matter how big. Certainly wouldn't want to go to the ground on purpose, but if you don't know how to handle your shit when taken there, you most likely will become the VIP guest at a boot party. I've seen big, strong guys get smashed bad getting jumped by several guys smaller. I've also seen some guys use just enough juijitsu to survive and make an escape in a similar situation.
Why do most martial arts institutions offer a free lesson or 2?
it's good business?
Its a feeling out process for both parties. The introductory private lesson is, as Ryan said, good business. It also allows someone a general idea of what they are getting involved in without the pressure of commitment. Believe it or not, the hardest thing is getting a person to just try the free lesson.
Just bjj will not work this is why you lurn more than one thing
Kama your Helios side so u will be partial to that I’m Carlson Gracie we do both
Sport is part of jiu jitsu just Helios side is bitter they can’t keep up Carlos side kept up I think both should be trained I think some of Helios self defense is good other stuff like gun defense stupid will get you killed but I think Bjj should be trained with strikes few times a week it’s all just nonsense arguing
BJJ should definitely be trained with strikes
I agree.
so THAT'S why you have a buzz cut professor.......just kidding. OSS
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