most people had to pay to get another higher level player to run vilmark with them too. the higher level player usually demanded that the other players die in the first room so that they could grab the terranite with the drop rate of a full party. You also couldn't trade Seria for the cube fragments, so you would either buy them or have to run to lotan every run to save a little money on the cubes. I think that only the leader had to unlock vilmark to enter it, but i could easily be wrong on that detail. As you might imagine, some people made a killing on selling runs of the towers (for the vp), vilmark, and the terranite that the runs of vilmark should have netted you. The new system is a huge improvement.
DUDE HOLY CRAP ! AT FIRST WHEN THIS VIDEO WAS GOING ON I DIDNT REALLY REMEMBER THEN ONCE YOU STARTED GETTING INTO IT, IT ALL FLASHED INTO ME AT ONCE. IT WAS SO SO SOOOOOO DREADFUL I REMEMBER GOING FROM RICH TO BROKE TO RICH TO BROKE AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS AWAKENING. IT WAS GRUESOME. SO VERY REPUGNANT UGH THE HORRID MEMORIES OF AWAKENING. I AWAKENED TWO CHARACTERS IDK HOW BUT IT WAS COMPLETELY HORRIBLE. YALL IDIOTS CAN COMPLAIN BUT GOD BLESS THE NEW AWAKENING SYSTEM !!!! A LIKE FROM ME SIR!
The PTSD is real. Oh man. I had some good times in old dfo, but this gave many people including me some real bad times. If collecting some seals and cubes is the worst part of it these days, then I have nothing to complain about.
We veterans were so sick of running Vilmark, since those robots keep running EVERYWHERE in the boss room. Before you know it, the entire army you tried so desperately to kill in the previous rooms, were ALL BACK. I remember how my Hell Bringer was crying back then.... though it wasn't Behemoth's Tear lol
Main reason why I never capped in old DFO was because I could barely complete dungeons in Ghent as a ranger ( even with a +13 Purple Revolver ) with my PvP build. I already spent most of my time PvPing, but whenever I got into the mood to PvE, the runs took far too long. I peaked at lvl 62. New players don't understand the struggle, man.
Lord Nick Tell me about it. I never capped either till level 70 cap came out in old DFO. At the 60 cap, I just stayed at level 54 since I grew too lazy to grind. PvP all day though =P
You reminded me so much about how much I HATED awakening. I had a goal of obtaining one of each class, awakening and capping them all. I enjoyed them all but I absolutely hated having to do the awakening quest line. On my Necro I failed to get the doll of 40 times!
I'm old veteran Korean player. Been playing and enjoying dfo community for 7 years. Even in Korean server, old awakening quests were considered near impossible even for dedicated 4 players united. I begged to high level players or wait for dedicated party that will never come. One awakening took 2 todays of my precious life; it doesn't get easier. It was dark and miserable time, and people shouldn't be admiring those miserable challenges.
+Picmanreborn Same. It was terrible. Especially for people who weren't rich. I had to grind if I wanted to get cubes after failing danjin doll. Too bad we don't have straight punch like a man anymore though...
Aww man this takes me back, I remember as a pve mech player trying first of all get those points back then when people used to HATE mech in pvp and had no mech no cube rooms... I had like 8 jobs awakened before nexon let go of dfo such a pain each one. Great video man.
As shitty as it sounds, I can understand where that "veteran" is coming from. Back when the Priest Patch first happened, I was super pissed that the dungeons were getting easier. I was actually clamoring for dungeons to go back to being tedious mana-sinks (remember 2nd Spine), because I missed when Behemoth was "the rite of passage" for new players and Scoria Core being a literal hell/proving grounds for magic classes. I didn't want those FILTHY CASUALS in the Aphelia and Ghent servers (despite the fact that I never Awakened multiple characters or even made it past Ghent in old DFO). I'm glad to say that I grew out of that mentality. Nowadays, I'm just happy that more people are playing the game now, and the game finally seems to be getting the respect it deserves.
Hoarseplay Interesting perspective. I think you and the other guy that MT mentioned think differently though. He wanted the old awakening because he felt the current one was too hard, but you want it back because you felt the current one is too easy =P
Hoarseplay dude i hear ya back when nen maser did a nen shot on the wisp and killed everyone in the party and those random tentacles came and took out a third of your health.and getting to Lotus was harden then actually fighting him.
After seeing this, I still cannot believe I have done all that shit - I am so thankful that the new way isn't so tedious. It is more dignified than the last.
Wow hearing you talk about the old awakening made me never realise how much of a pain old awakening was. I think I had it pretty easy cuz I was a summoner back then so the ancient dungeons were kinda easy. I do remember the danjin doll fiasco tho, I think I was kinda lucky with that too tho, never had to reach 10 tries before. Now that I think about it I'm not even sure how I even managed to awaken so effortlessly back then lol.
ChangBenson I also had an easier time than most since I was naturally lucky but I wasn't a summoner...but a pvp Elementalist. So uh...running those dungeons were a huge pain. I paid someone to do them lol
Old Awakening Quest 1 - Talk to "Class Teacher". Quest 2 - Clear 'King's Relic' 3 times. Quest 3 - Clear 'Vilmark - Area 50' 4 times. Quest 4 - Earn 500 Victory Points. Quest 5 - Collect 50 'Terranite' from 'Vilmark - Area 50'. Quest 6 - Collect 10 Red/White Cubes and 100 Superior Iron/Hardener Quest 7 - Talk to "Class Teacher". Congrats, you awakened. This was one of the older Awakening lines. I know the process was changed several times before the "Rebirth" patch and a few times afterwards.
You also got victory points from killing npc in towers that where character type mobs (ie slayer,fighter,priest,mage, gunner etc) So people grinding ToD for VP also
fivedudes I think they added this later on, right? I actually don't remember haha but I do recall that being a thing. Just not sure if it was early on or later.
looking back I realize my expirience was extremely atypical, got dajinn doll 2nd time, only failed one vilmark and no times on king's relic (with randoms) when trying to awaken. But I still recognize that it was crazy hard and I just lucked out/hard a strong class.
I had a lv10 fighter who existed purely to help my friends and guild mates farm VP for awakening. Her PvP record was around 1400 losses and I decided to PvP for fun & told the first person I beat, "I've played over a thousand rounds but you're the first person I've won against." He immediately left the room :p
You forgot to mention the part where we had to run vilmark/relic for the quest item that had a mythical drop rate. I for one did that step with f.launcher, ran vilmark about 30 times... it was bad
I mean, geez, simply getting your subclass in old DFO took a surprising amount of time, nowadays you're pretty much handed it for free. I'm not complaining, quite the opposite, and don't even get me started on Nexon's ways.
Those dark times... Only reason I quited because of the corrupted system. It was like North Korea. I decided to play DFOG and loved it. Thanks to Neople for bringing back the game with a better system.
I actually got all the stuff needed to Awaken from Avenger to Doom Guardian just by getting mats from him. the only thing that was tough to get were the Emperor Helm Seals and Chaos Stone Debris everything else was so much easier. I remember getting Soul Reaper awakened.....and having the title be inferior........Back then were traumatizing times, I'm happy to leave them behind me.~Zero
Yeah.....haha I laughed then slowly cried at it. I kinda miss the titles I wanna show off I'm a doom Guardian, also was gonna ask are you guys gonna do basic character guides?
If you actually pick up all the Rusty IRon, Raw Hardeners, and Seals you will have more than enough by the time you hit Lv50. There is no reason to not have enough mats when you are ready, exception being Chaos Stone Debris which won't drop much before 50 .
Oh yeah I remember that bullshit. Terranite was expensive too it was like 25k a piece and running them ancients was bullshit. If I died I always prayed that someone in the party will survive til the end. When I did awaken for my zerk I was pissed cause the awakening was bullshit. The dmg was garbage and not only that it didn't have knock down at the time. Enemies just walked away from my awakening, and the icing on the cake is that I have super armor and can't move while my awakening is active. I can get pummeled and I just need to sit there grooving on it. I'm so happy with all the changes that neople made. Whoever wants the old awakening back is clearly on crack.
dragonslayer015 I remember them costing as much as 50k once upon a time T_T. Those were bad days...and yeah, awakenings were beyond useless back then too lol
I remember doing the old awakening quest back in 2009 when i was playing on the CDnf server, i remember specially that i 'hired' a hacker to help me with the ancient dungeons.....LOL i was so desperate
I'm also pretty sure if they bring back the old Awakening system, they're going to have to run True Vilmark or something. I think they revamped the ancient dungeons too. By that I mean they're going to have to be a certain level to get those dungeons, right? Even in CDnF I don't know where those dungeons are.
Any player new or old complaining on the current Awakening system has never earned the Awakening like a lot of us older vets. *Mecha Tau Flashbacks here* That said, Awakenings now are practically given.
I kinda remember the old Nexon days although since i live outside the U.S and Asia i had to use a horrible VPN to trick the game into thinking that i was in america which came with a LOT of lag i also remember that advancing into a subclass was or rather even just leveling was a pain nothing compared to Awakening though as you pointed out also Summoner was really useless back then.
Im one of those people that went through the pain and I remember that I got the danjin doll in like my 3rd time and did everything pretty much solo(it was painful,really really painful) took me over a week to awaken and also awaken solo during the alpha test when red cube frag were like 3 - 4.5k a piece
TheNario94 Oh wow, I didn't really pay attention to the market in alpha since I was busy playing Wildstar at the time, but 3-4.5k a piece? Wow, that's insane.
RiseMT Yea it was one of the most painful things to get because there wasn't auction hall either you can only buy them from people through megaphone or just stand there and hope if someone is selling them
I'm a veteran and I say the new 1st Awakening system is much more easier to complete solo for all classes. Blech, I hated getting those materials just to make the Awaken weapon, Then there's those annoying dungeons I can't solo like Relic because i mostly solo. Even in quick party, I doubt it'll be of any help.
I didn't awaken right away when I hit lvl 50 in kdnf, because my account was new around lvl 55 I awoke. mostly because I didn't have enough money to buy the materials.
Played this game in the old Nexon days. I REALLY enjoyed the game and you have to tell me. How has the revival system changed? Is it still the 3 a day coins/ buy them off the store system or has it changed? Man I miss this game I'm ALMOST tempted to pick it back up again since Nexon is out of the picture.
hondragrid It's so much better now. There's still 3 per day but they give out so many like hotcakes it's great. Events every damn week, 2nd awakenings, and all the more. I have like 60 tokens on all my characters just from playing the game. If you liked it back in nexon days, you'll absolutely love it now lol.
anyone who says new awakening is harder didn't awaken in old dfo,though to be quite frank I wouldn't mind the awakening being more run accomplishment oriented as opposed to materials oriented. And you should've asked one of the video makers with vilmark footage to use some of theirs for this video.
RiseMT Still a great video, just feel like having footage of the actual dungeons you had to do (especially if it was people getting destroyed) would add a lot to it.
Lets not forget you only got about 3 terranite a run, AND you didnt even touch the cost of entry passes into vilmark and kings relic. oh and "do it for the cool" was all over dfo
aeroforce2202 Haha yeah, the entrance passes are a good point. I think it was black cube frags and some gold for vilmarks? Can't remember off the top of my head but yeah...those were fun times..
so basically you went to hell and back just to get a skill that does slightly more damage the the big skill you get before it, so IE if you don't care about appearances Awakening was the most stupid pointless thing you could do. seems about right for Nexon.
These were carried over from the old version of the game and the JP version. It was a grinding hell, no SP reset, "cancel" actually cost 50sp and requires lv5 of that skill (I am dead fucking serious) And the FUCKING HYPER JAMMER quest that u have to do to fight the stupid looking and extremely weak Lotus, which, if u r unlucky, also cost tones of money to buy materials, at LEVEL FUCKIN 35, which is just early gameplay Oh yea, in JP version which was very early version of the game back then, there was no Auction Hall, you can only sell at trade channel and it cost u real money, so u have no way to make money but grinding I capped my lancer within 2 weeks easily in thr current game I am so glad that the old days are gone
Although the new system is much better, I feel like some of these things were exaggerated. You definitely could've gotten victory points through other means (I think the towers gave them? Maybe it was one of Albert's things? Don't remember exactly). It wasn't impossible to do the dungeons at the time, just difficult, which is made better when you party up with people who know what they're doing. You could even conceivably solo them if you were a good enough player. The Danjin doll was pretty bad, but that's luck. Couldn't you get it on the first try, technically? I'm actually surprised you didn't mention the 3 token limit. I don't think I've ever payed 10m for awakening in either the new or old DFO. I probably awakened like 10 times on the old DFO. I never payed for VP (again, there were other ways to get VP, and getting VP via pvp wasn't that difficult honestly) and I never payed for runs, although I did get help in Ancient Dungeon runs. Try joining a guild or something and asking for help. Additionally, you haven't mentioned that some classes actually greatly benefited from awakening, like Elementalist, who needed her passive to debuff for a constant 240 int (when that worked with Disenchant) and a good burst skill. Dervishes basically required Giant Tornado because it's such a good hold. I'm sure those're not the only case of a useful awakening. Actually, in the new DFO, it feels more difficult to awaken by the time you get to 50 moneywise. I would almost never have enough money or materials to afford awakening, though that was probably because it is much faster to get to 50, so you have less gold/items. I guess it's not as big a deal anymore, though. New Skill system is SOO much better.
***** Interesting perspective. I did forget to mention the tower VP. A few people mentioned you could get it via towers. Honestly, I forgot since I never played towers back then. I got all my VP via PvP, that was my bad. I'm a pvp addict =P Anyway, you do have a point with the Ele awakening. I probably would've mentioned it if I was commentating (I'm Rise and my main is an Ele). The three token limit, goddamnit. How could I forget that... Anyway, thanks for the feedback. Besides those points, I do disagree with the exaggeration. It was a horrible experience for me hahaha, not fun at all. Especially since I had a pvp build (remember those days, they didn't have multiple skill builds so I had to build my ele as pvp), so trying to play like that was a nightmare (in the ancients)...
and yet no matter how much easier new awakening is compared to the old, there are _still_ beggars clogging up megaphone chat trying to bum seals of Emperor Helm off of random players. doesn't exactly help that people give in, enabling these lazy bastards (and i'm a pretty lazy bastard myself).
freecomkcf Hah, I guess whatever works? I still sort of cringe when someone uses megaphones. They are free in this version, sure, but in the old nexon days, each of those cost 300-500k on the AH lol. So whenever I see someone spamming megaphones, I immediately imagine that person drowning a ton of cash down the toilet hahaha
I did the old awakening once. Playing with AOL. Meaning i cant PVP. Only way i could do it is beat apcs in tower all day every day in 6 months. I Already have my awakening in the new version.
LimitedTimeGamer Haha oh wow, I didn't even realize it took that long with towers (I always got my VP from pvp personally). Thank god we have the new awakening system.
Back then you DID get VP from ToD player based enemies. But I also enjoyed pvp back then so I was glad more people were lured to PvP. I do NOT miss fucking Danjin rolling for days and never getting what you needed. But I do miss a lot of the old stuff from DFO, dungeons were actually challenging and forced players to be you know good, or party. Now dungeons are so easy that, you have to admit the player skill is deteriorating. And with every update partying is kind of being discouraged more and more :| I Still remember when spider's lair was the last dungeon in the game and Aracluso could nuke your ass like you were his bitch. Tbh, Zerker was the only one I leveled awakening on on all of my alts, cause his awakening's buff ability got a huge buff per level that was actually really good, if you did the smart thing and ran the sword to the end of its duration instead of just popping it the second it's ready
Haha，it was painful, but not that painful, well, some classes r really make diff with awakening, but some r not.,have fun in new dfo, I have to say, new dfo is too easy.
Jin Wei Well, if you are talking about the 70 cap, I'd agree that some awakenings were worth the trouble. This is more referring to 60 and below cap. Unless you were referring to that...then, I respect your abilities to enjoy that rofl. I know I can never do it.
Okey hold on... you're comparing THE FIRST method of awakening on this video which was really painful..the veteran that complained was probably someone who played during ALPHA and completed the awakening when it was MUCH easier than what it is now. Also about VP they were dropped in TOD not only PVP like you claim on your video. so even PVE players could awaken even if they never step on pvp
***** and i can't really seem to recall when it was CHANGED but 2nd method was in fact a LOT easier to awaken that what it is now.. so that veteran wasn't completely WRONG when he made claims that awakening used to be a lot easier.
RiseMT started with clearing floor 30th of tod, then you had to beat Albert in the moonlight tavern, collect some cubes forgot the amount, and lastly collect 200 crystals(the one that drop in the slums place) and 100 debris fragments.
CSDragon Someone else also mentioned this. I think this might be a regional thing. I live near MT (the person commentating on this video) and we both pronounce it the same way. Almost everyone does here. Very interesting though haha.
By old DFO you mean the one owned by Nexon? If that's a yes, I don't really care since they are well known for fucking up any game they have and turning it into nothing more than a cash cow. In Dragon Nest I understand skill reset scrolls but 20$ for one in DFO? Lol...
Relhio Haha yeah, but this system of awakening (the old one) was in all the old versions of DFO, including the foreign versions. I'm not too sure on the cost of skill resets in the foreign versions (when they used to have it), but it probably wasn't 20 bucks.
Nexon closed DFO, they also seem to have closed Dekaron. Also people seem to complain a fucking lot about the Dragon Nest lag issues. In my opinion Nexon is hands down the WORST gaming company out there, they mess up the game by making it revolve too much around p2w and end up closing it because nobody is playing it anymore, and they don't seem to want to learn. I can't imagine how DFO was under them but I'm sure it was a game that wasn't updated at all and just there to make money, glad it got closed.
Relhio Highly the reason why I told myself to never play any games by Nexon. Actually just because they closed DFO when I decide to go back after getting hacked.
Wow, the old awakening is like a well oiled Guantanamo bay.
TLCBonaparte Haha, man this made me laugh pretty hard. Fantastic analogy.
Wow well Im glad I joined DFO just a few weeks a ago
Souldriver9 Thank based Neople haha.
OH GOD DANJIN DOLL WHY DID YOU REMIND ME OF THIS HORROR
Primo Yiliaster DANJIN DOLL CAN BURN - MT
I think the most i had to do it on the 5 characters i awakened back in the day was 5
most people had to pay to get another higher level player to run vilmark with them too. the higher level player usually demanded that the other players die in the first room so that they could grab the terranite with the drop rate of a full party. You also couldn't trade Seria for the cube fragments, so you would either buy them or have to run to lotan every run to save a little money on the cubes. I think that only the leader had to unlock vilmark to enter it, but i could easily be wrong on that detail. As you might imagine, some people made a killing on selling runs of the towers (for the vp), vilmark, and the terranite that the runs of vilmark should have netted you. The new system is a huge improvement.
DUDE HOLY CRAP ! AT FIRST WHEN THIS VIDEO WAS GOING ON I DIDNT REALLY REMEMBER THEN ONCE YOU STARTED GETTING INTO IT, IT ALL FLASHED INTO ME AT ONCE. IT WAS SO SO SOOOOOO DREADFUL I REMEMBER GOING FROM RICH TO BROKE TO RICH TO BROKE AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS AWAKENING. IT WAS GRUESOME. SO VERY REPUGNANT UGH THE HORRID MEMORIES OF AWAKENING. I AWAKENED TWO CHARACTERS IDK HOW BUT IT WAS COMPLETELY HORRIBLE. YALL IDIOTS CAN COMPLAIN BUT GOD BLESS THE NEW AWAKENING SYSTEM !!!! A LIKE FROM ME SIR!
Pinhead Larry I AM SORRY TO REMIND YOU OF THOSE HORRORS, BUT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE - MT
The PTSD is real.
Oh man.
I had some good times in old dfo, but this gave many people including me some real bad times.
If collecting some seals and cubes is the worst part of it these days, then I have nothing to complain about.
The pain. It hurts.
Lxkill I feel your pain - MT
We veterans were so sick of running Vilmark, since those robots keep running EVERYWHERE in the boss room. Before you know it, the entire army you tried so desperately to kill in the previous rooms, were ALL BACK.
I remember how my Hell Bringer was crying back then.... though it wasn't Behemoth's Tear lol
Main reason why I never capped in old DFO was because I could barely complete dungeons in Ghent as a ranger ( even with a +13 Purple Revolver ) with my PvP build. I already spent most of my time PvPing, but whenever I got into the mood to PvE, the runs took far too long. I peaked at lvl 62. New players don't understand the struggle, man.
Lord Nick Tell me about it. I never capped either till level 70 cap came out in old DFO. At the 60 cap, I just stayed at level 54 since I grew too lazy to grind. PvP all day though =P
Lord Nick As a pvp focused soulbender, pretty much my story. My last dungeon was supply camp.
You reminded me so much about how much I HATED awakening. I had a goal of obtaining one of each class, awakening and capping them all. I enjoyed them all but I absolutely hated having to do the awakening quest line. On my Necro I failed to get the doll of 40 times!
oh god i thought i forgot about this but the vid refreshed my memory, that was hell doing my awakening for my ranger and monk
This makes me happy I never played in the Nexon days.
I'm old veteran Korean player. Been playing and enjoying dfo community for 7 years. Even in Korean server, old awakening quests were considered near impossible even for dedicated 4 players united. I begged to high level players or wait for dedicated party that will never come. One awakening took 2 todays of my precious life; it doesn't get easier. It was dark and miserable time, and people shouldn't be admiring those miserable challenges.
Aaaaah I remember the days of farming for a Danjin doll to get into Vilmark..... I hated it 😂😂😂
+Picmanreborn Same. It was terrible. Especially for people who weren't rich. I had to grind if I wanted to get cubes after failing danjin doll.
Too bad we don't have straight punch like a man anymore though...
Aww man this takes me back, I remember as a pve mech player trying first of all get those points back then when people used to HATE mech in pvp and had no mech no cube rooms... I had like 8 jobs awakened before nexon let go of dfo such a pain each one. Great video man.
+DaMond Smith That's rather impressive. I've only managed 3 characters in total to awaken in old Nexon T_T
Jesus Christ the doll quest I completely forgot about that shit the moment you brought it up I closed my eyes and started crying
Ezey Brito The trauma truly runs deep.
As shitty as it sounds, I can understand where that "veteran" is coming from. Back when the Priest Patch first happened, I was super pissed that the dungeons were getting easier. I was actually clamoring for dungeons to go back to being tedious mana-sinks (remember 2nd Spine), because I missed when Behemoth was "the rite of passage" for new players and Scoria Core being a literal hell/proving grounds for magic classes.
I didn't want those FILTHY CASUALS in the Aphelia and Ghent servers (despite the fact that I never Awakened multiple characters or even made it past Ghent in old DFO). I'm glad to say that I grew out of that mentality.
Nowadays, I'm just happy that more people are playing the game now, and the game finally seems to be getting the respect it deserves.
Hoarseplay Interesting perspective. I think you and the other guy that MT mentioned think differently though. He wanted the old awakening because he felt the current one was too hard, but you want it back because you felt the current one is too easy =P
Hoarseplay dude i hear ya back when nen maser did a nen shot on the wisp and killed everyone in the party and those random tentacles came and took out a third of your health.and getting to Lotus was harden then actually fighting him.
After seeing this, I still cannot believe I have done all that shit - I am so thankful that the new way isn't so tedious. It is more dignified than the last.
Wow hearing you talk about the old awakening made me never realise how much of a pain old awakening was. I think I had it pretty easy cuz I was a summoner back then so the ancient dungeons were kinda easy. I do remember the danjin doll fiasco tho, I think I was kinda lucky with that too tho, never had to reach 10 tries before. Now that I think about it I'm not even sure how I even managed to awaken so effortlessly back then lol.
ChangBenson I also had an easier time than most since I was naturally lucky but I wasn't a summoner...but a pvp Elementalist. So uh...running those dungeons were a huge pain. I paid someone to do them lol
Old Awakening
Quest 1 - Talk to "Class Teacher".
Quest 2 - Clear 'King's Relic' 3 times.
Quest 3 - Clear 'Vilmark - Area 50' 4 times.
Quest 4 - Earn 500 Victory Points.
Quest 5 - Collect 50 'Terranite' from 'Vilmark - Area 50'.
Quest 6 - Collect 10 Red/White Cubes and 100 Superior Iron/Hardener
Quest 7 - Talk to "Class Teacher".
Congrats, you awakened.
This was one of the older Awakening lines. I know the process was changed several times before the "Rebirth" patch and a few times afterwards.
You also got victory points from killing npc in towers that where character type mobs (ie slayer,fighter,priest,mage, gunner etc) So people grinding ToD for VP also
fivedudes I think they added this later on, right? I actually don't remember haha but I do recall that being a thing. Just not sure if it was early on or later.
It was a thing for as long as the towers where around. You got like 50 per run if I remember :V
Yup i played old dfo after it came out of beta and never did pvp for my awakenings always stupid tower of death.
looking back I realize my expirience was extremely atypical, got dajinn doll 2nd time, only failed one vilmark and no times on king's relic (with randoms) when trying to awaken. But I still recognize that it was crazy hard and I just lucked out/hard a strong class.
Yeah, the old awakening was nuts. It really felt like an accomplishment though to do xD
I had a lv10 fighter who existed purely to help my friends and guild mates farm VP for awakening. Her PvP record was around 1400 losses and I decided to PvP for fun & told the first person I beat, "I've played over a thousand rounds but you're the first person I've won against." He immediately left the room :p
Nananki Hahaha, that's great.
You forgot to mention the part where we had to run vilmark/relic for the quest item that had a mythical drop rate. I for one did that step with f.launcher, ran vilmark about 30 times... it was bad
I mean, geez, simply getting your subclass in old DFO took a surprising amount of time, nowadays you're pretty much handed it for free.
I'm not complaining, quite the opposite, and don't even get me started on Nexon's ways.
Those dark times... Only reason I quited because of the corrupted system. It was like North Korea. I decided to play DFOG and loved it. Thanks to Neople for bringing back the game with a better system.
Tl;dw: Thank you based neople
I actually got all the stuff needed to Awaken from Avenger to Doom Guardian just by getting mats from him. the only thing that was tough to get were the Emperor Helm Seals and Chaos Stone Debris everything else was so much easier.
I remember getting Soul Reaper awakened.....and having the title be inferior........Back then were traumatizing times, I'm happy to leave them behind me.~Zero
grim566 Oh...I forgot that could happen with titles.... *shudder*
Yeah.....haha I laughed then slowly cried at it. I kinda miss the titles I wanna show off I'm a doom Guardian, also was gonna ask are you guys gonna do basic character guides?
Yup eventually. That's on a long...long to do list. There's so many topics to cover haha.
Sweet, I've been mostly sticking to the classes I know but I've always been curious about Blade Master and Rogues.
If you actually pick up all the Rusty IRon, Raw Hardeners, and Seals you will have more than enough by the time you hit Lv50. There is no reason to not have enough mats when you are ready, exception being Chaos Stone Debris which won't drop much before 50 .
Oh yeah I remember that bullshit. Terranite was expensive too it was like 25k a piece and running them ancients was bullshit. If I died I always prayed that someone in the party will survive til the end.
When I did awaken for my zerk I was pissed cause the awakening was bullshit. The dmg was garbage and not only that it didn't have knock down at the time. Enemies just walked away from my awakening, and the icing on the cake is that I have super armor and can't move while my awakening is active. I can get pummeled and I just need to sit there grooving on it.
I'm so happy with all the changes that neople made. Whoever wants the old awakening back is clearly on crack.
dragonslayer015 I remember them costing as much as 50k once upon a time T_T. Those were bad days...and yeah, awakenings were beyond useless back then too lol
I remember doing the old awakening quest back in 2009 when i was playing on the CDnf server, i remember specially that i 'hired' a hacker to help me with the ancient dungeons.....LOL i was so desperate
God NO THE DANJI DOLLL GOD NOOOOOO
I'm also pretty sure if they bring back the old Awakening system, they're going to have to run True Vilmark or something. I think they revamped the ancient dungeons too. By that I mean they're going to have to be a certain level to get those dungeons, right? Even in CDnF I don't know where those dungeons are.
Any player new or old complaining on the current Awakening system has never earned the Awakening like a lot of us older vets. *Mecha Tau Flashbacks here* That said, Awakenings now are practically given.
I kinda remember the old Nexon days although since i live outside the U.S and Asia i had to use a horrible VPN to trick the game into thinking that i was in america which came with a LOT of lag i also remember that advancing into a subclass was or rather even just leveling was a pain nothing compared to Awakening though as you pointed out also Summoner was really useless back then.
i like the new one i was able to do it as soon as i hit 50 on my first character
thanks for reminding of the nightmare i had to go through in Nexon DFO . . . really enjoyed that . . . .
Did Nexon burn in a fire yet? = n =
KiroShiftYusay Not yet, we will keep you updated so stay tuned! - MT
Im one of those people that went through the pain and I remember that I got the danjin doll in like my 3rd time and did everything pretty much solo(it was painful,really really painful) took me over a week to awaken and also awaken solo during the alpha test when red cube frag were like 3 - 4.5k a piece
TheNario94 Oh wow, I didn't really pay attention to the market in alpha since I was busy playing Wildstar at the time, but 3-4.5k a piece? Wow, that's insane.
RiseMT Yea it was one of the most painful things to get because there wasn't auction hall either you can only buy them from people through megaphone or just stand there and hope if someone is selling them
I'm a veteran and I say the new 1st Awakening system is much more easier to complete solo for all classes. Blech, I hated getting those materials just to make the Awaken weapon, Then there's those annoying dungeons I can't solo like Relic because i mostly solo. Even in quick party, I doubt it'll be of any help.
And now it's even cheaper ever since origin 1st awk was a quest and 2nd awk only needed seals which is cheaper than superior materials
I didn't awaken right away when I hit lvl 50 in kdnf, because my account was new around lvl 55 I awoke. mostly because I didn't have enough money to buy the materials.
oh god, I remember trying to do ancients with my summoner, it was such a pain.
***** Honestly I'm not even sure how I survived with my summoner back then. I was terrible at the class too so it just made things worse haha.
It didn't help that Summoners were SP locked back then cause Eche was a HUGE SP dump due to its insane pre-req
Old Dfo was like effing dark souls when it came to awakening and other things....I only succeeded in maxing 1 character...my ranger
Played this game in the old Nexon days. I REALLY enjoyed the game and you have to tell me. How has the revival system changed? Is it still the 3 a day coins/ buy them off the store system or has it changed? Man I miss this game I'm ALMOST tempted to pick it back up again since Nexon is out of the picture.
hondragrid It's so much better now. There's still 3 per day but they give out so many like hotcakes it's great. Events every damn week, 2nd awakenings, and all the more. I have like 60 tokens on all my characters just from playing the game. If you liked it back in nexon days, you'll absolutely love it now lol.
Is there a stories of the past video on dfo before awakening? for example Priest skill differences and appearence
KenGsable Not...yet haha. An interesting topic though. I might cover it in the future =)
anyone who says new awakening is harder didn't awaken in old dfo,though to be quite frank I wouldn't mind the awakening being more run accomplishment oriented as opposed to materials oriented. And you should've asked one of the video makers with vilmark footage to use some of theirs for this video.
AdumbroDeus Yeah I was considering grabbing it from EnigmaticBlitz but decided not to in the end. Probably should have though.
RiseMT Still a great video, just feel like having footage of the actual dungeons you had to do (especially if it was people getting destroyed) would add a lot to it.
of drops for the heart thing
Lets not forget you only got about 3 terranite a run, AND you didnt even touch the cost of entry passes into vilmark and kings relic. oh and "do it for the cool" was all over dfo
aeroforce2202 Haha yeah, the entrance passes are a good point. I think it was black cube frags and some gold for vilmarks? Can't remember off the top of my head but yeah...those were fun times..
god running my male mech in vilmark oh god the 3% percent
but soul bender would be able to destroy everything with the first awakening skill
looking up builds for skill builds in old dfo ..... man how many charas I messed up'
20 DOLLARS FOR SKILL RESET?!!! AAAAHHH!!!
+Rogers Rainheart sounds like nexon all right XD
Gevoian Yasin
hahahahahahahaha!!! you got that right.
I don't like either versions of awakening...both are way too time consuming, but I personally like the old version of the game in general
so basically you went to hell and back just to get a skill that does slightly more damage the the big skill you get before it, so IE if you don't care about appearances Awakening was the most stupid pointless thing you could do. seems about right for Nexon.
xXEPIKgamerXx Slightly more damage and it was pretty useless too considering you couldn't use it often and it cost a ton of SP lol
These were carried over from the old version of the game and the JP version.
It was a grinding hell, no SP reset, "cancel" actually cost 50sp and requires lv5 of that skill (I am dead fucking serious)
And the FUCKING HYPER JAMMER quest that u have to do to fight the stupid looking and extremely weak Lotus, which, if u r unlucky, also cost tones of money to buy materials, at LEVEL FUCKIN 35, which is just early gameplay
Oh yea, in JP version which was very early version of the game back then, there was no Auction Hall, you can only sell at trade channel and it cost u real money, so u have no way to make money but grinding
I capped my lancer within 2 weeks easily in thr current game
I am so glad that the old days are gone
Although the new system is much better, I feel like some of these things were exaggerated. You definitely could've gotten victory points through other means (I think the towers gave them? Maybe it was one of Albert's things? Don't remember exactly). It wasn't impossible to do the dungeons at the time, just difficult, which is made better when you party up with people who know what they're doing. You could even conceivably solo them if you were a good enough player. The Danjin doll was pretty bad, but that's luck. Couldn't you get it on the first try, technically? I'm actually surprised you didn't mention the 3 token limit.
I don't think I've ever payed 10m for awakening in either the new or old DFO. I probably awakened like 10 times on the old DFO. I never payed for VP (again, there were other ways to get VP, and getting VP via pvp wasn't that difficult honestly) and I never payed for runs, although I did get help in Ancient Dungeon runs. Try joining a guild or something and asking for help.
Additionally, you haven't mentioned that some classes actually greatly benefited from awakening, like Elementalist, who needed her passive to debuff for a constant 240 int (when that worked with Disenchant) and a good burst skill. Dervishes basically required Giant Tornado because it's such a good hold. I'm sure those're not the only case of a useful awakening.
Actually, in the new DFO, it feels more difficult to awaken by the time you get to 50 moneywise. I would almost never have enough money or materials to afford awakening, though that was probably because it is much faster to get to 50, so you have less gold/items. I guess it's not as big a deal anymore, though. New Skill system is SOO much better.
***** Interesting perspective. I did forget to mention the tower VP. A few people mentioned you could get it via towers. Honestly, I forgot since I never played towers back then. I got all my VP via PvP, that was my bad. I'm a pvp addict =P
Anyway, you do have a point with the Ele awakening. I probably would've mentioned it if I was commentating (I'm Rise and my main is an Ele).
The three token limit, goddamnit. How could I forget that...
Anyway, thanks for the feedback. Besides those points, I do disagree with the exaggeration. It was a horrible experience for me hahaha, not fun at all. Especially since I had a pvp build (remember those days, they didn't have multiple skill builds so I had to build my ele as pvp), so trying to play like that was a nightmare (in the ancients)...
and yet no matter how much easier new awakening is compared to the old, there are _still_ beggars clogging up megaphone chat trying to bum seals of Emperor Helm off of random players. doesn't exactly help that people give in, enabling these lazy bastards (and i'm a pretty lazy bastard myself).
freecomkcf Hah, I guess whatever works? I still sort of cringe when someone uses megaphones. They are free in this version, sure, but in the old nexon days, each of those cost 300-500k on the AH lol. So whenever I see someone spamming megaphones, I immediately imagine that person drowning a ton of cash down the toilet hahaha
I did the old awakening once. Playing with AOL. Meaning i cant PVP. Only way i could do it is beat apcs in tower all day every day in 6 months. I Already have my awakening in the new version.
LimitedTimeGamer Haha oh wow, I didn't even realize it took that long with towers (I always got my VP from pvp personally). Thank god we have the new awakening system.
yeah, never again haha
Back then you DID get VP from ToD player based enemies. But I also enjoyed pvp back then so I was glad more people were lured to PvP. I do NOT miss fucking Danjin rolling for days and never getting what you needed. But I do miss a lot of the old stuff from DFO, dungeons were actually challenging and forced players to be you know good, or party. Now dungeons are so easy that, you have to admit the player skill is deteriorating. And with every update partying is kind of being discouraged more and more :| I Still remember when spider's lair was the last dungeon in the game and Aracluso could nuke your ass like you were his bitch. Tbh, Zerker was the only one I leveled awakening on on all of my alts, cause his awakening's buff ability got a huge buff per level that was actually really good, if you did the smart thing and ran the sword to the end of its duration instead of just popping it the second it's ready
jesus christ i dont want terranite and ancients back again...
ultimasurge i mean not for awakening, i was so dam proud of my self when i awakened in old dfo though. the new kids dont a have a clue
Haha，it was painful, but not that painful, well, some classes r really make diff with awakening, but some r not.,have fun in new dfo, I have to say, new dfo is too easy.
Jin Wei Well, if you are talking about the 70 cap, I'd agree that some awakenings were worth the trouble. This is more referring to 60 and below cap. Unless you were referring to that...then, I respect your abilities to enjoy that rofl. I know I can never do it.
Okey hold on... you're comparing THE FIRST method of awakening on this video which was really painful..the veteran that complained was probably someone who played during ALPHA and completed the awakening when it was MUCH easier than what it is now. Also about VP they were dropped in TOD not only PVP like you claim on your video. so even PVE players could awaken even if they never step on pvp
***** and i can't really seem to recall when it was CHANGED but 2nd method was in fact a LOT easier to awaken that what it is now.. so that veteran wasn't completely WRONG when he made claims that awakening used to be a lot easier.
***** Good point, do you remember what the requirements for the second version was?
RiseMT started with clearing floor 30th of tod, then you had to beat Albert in the moonlight tavern, collect some cubes forgot the amount, and lastly collect 200 crystals(the one that drop in the slums place) and 100 debris fragments.
Great video, but I can't help but say, you have a funny way of pronouncing myriad. it's 'ia' not 'ai' and is pronounced more like "MEE-ree-ad"
CSDragon Someone else also mentioned this. I think this might be a regional thing. I live near MT (the person commentating on this video) and we both pronounce it the same way. Almost everyone does here. Very interesting though haha.
You should cut out a lot of the unnecessary chat.
Good informative vid otherwise!
By old DFO you mean the one owned by Nexon? If that's a yes, I don't really care since they are well known for fucking up any game they have and turning it into nothing more than a cash cow. In Dragon Nest I understand skill reset scrolls but 20$ for one in DFO? Lol...
Relhio Haha yeah, but this system of awakening (the old one) was in all the old versions of DFO, including the foreign versions. I'm not too sure on the cost of skill resets in the foreign versions (when they used to have it), but it probably wasn't 20 bucks.
Nexon closed DFO, they also seem to have closed Dekaron. Also people seem to complain a fucking lot about the Dragon Nest lag issues. In my opinion Nexon is hands down the WORST gaming company out there, they mess up the game by making it revolve too much around p2w and end up closing it because nobody is playing it anymore, and they don't seem to want to learn. I can't imagine how DFO was under them but I'm sure it was a game that wasn't updated at all and just there to make money, glad it got closed.
Haha your guess is legit spot on. That's exactly what happened. Gah, nexon is not fun.
Relhio Highly the reason why I told myself to never play any games by Nexon. Actually just because they closed DFO when I decide to go back after getting hacked.