How to Rebuild a Muncie 4 Speed - Tip # 2
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Muncie 4 Speed synchronizer sizing and matching,deburring gears and a quick look at the shop. Best watched in HD!
Paul your attention to detail is staggering. Watching you do all these little tricks is really making me want to redo my Muncie even though it works perfectly fine. Thank you for sharing your expert knowledge with us!!!
Thank you.
Videos like this clearly show what one pays for when buying a transmission from you.
It is not just the effort to do the work. It is the observation, and persistence to final workable solutions.
And the inventory you have to keep... GOODNESS.
I hope some youngster comes along to learn the craft from you. You do amazing work.
I started as an apprentice at age 12. Went to school and started the biz 36 years ago. It takes patience and drive. Hopefully I can find someone one day.
WOW!
Another astoundingly detailed video that I can easily understand.
I'm gunna be dreaming of Muncie's again tonight.
That bind is such a simple and fundamental thing, yet most people wouldn't recognize it as an issue. Great tutorial.
Hey Paul, i also do think it is very important to be able to "aware" quality of the parts and how they go in and work together between correct amount of tolerances. I really appreciate your videos and teaching style. Not only people can learn about manual transmissions but also your videos deliver some important aspects about any kind of machine assemblies in general.
Paul, great video about your Zero Rock sliders and hubs. I didn't realize you did all that work to match the sets so nicely. I'm sure my M-21 will shift smoothly know this now. Thanks so much for your help on my rebuild.
Mike C.
Watching you do your magic is fascinating!
Paul, You are the Oracle of Muncie 4 speeds. Wonderful video.
Thank You
Mechanical Metal Working is a lost art, especially in this day of spec racing. I'm lucky I came up when it was still done by everyone. There's something more about taking parts out of the box and doing them up for just a little more edge, than just taking them out of a box and bolting it on. As always, these are great lessons!
Great information...If you don't have his book on muncies, find one and buy it. Thanks Paul
Shifted many a Muncie back in the day, would love to shift one of yours, I'm sure I would feel the difference. Very interesting stuff, thanks for sharing!
Out of all the excellent videos you've done on syncros and cones, this little bit of information is obviously very key. Thanks so much for this. I've watched it a few times to really get the gist of it, as your latest version of the book doesn't seem to make mention of it. Cheers.
The SA103 yellow does go into detail for about 3 pages. Book content is limited by the publisher's page count and image maximum
@@GearBoxVideo Thanks Paul
Great video! I'd love to see you rebuild a standard 3 synchro mgb transmission. If you made a book on it I'd definitely buy it!
centromatic89 Hi! My publisher CarTechbooks decides what they deem sell able when it comes to books. Could be something worth doing for a RUclips video maybe. It would not fit into their format. Got a core trans and some parts and I'd be up for doing a video on one. Let me know.
+7351rick Your security settings won't allow me to post a reply directly: Why go to Ebay when you purchase a kit direct from me? here is the link. My kits now include my Redline Gaskets. goo.gl/DeytFW
Paul !!, Great eye for damaged Pieces and fixes True Technological Skills, I See you Spend a Lot Nights killing the work nice to know you enjoy it,
Amazing, A Dimond in the Rough peace.
This step is very important.
Thanks for sharing Paul
fiddlerpin Your welcome.
I am Visnusak, from Thailand Thank for Good Video from your expert.
Paul, I bought your Muncie book and watched all your videos probably 3 times. Nice job, man, you clearly know your stuff. You taught me a lot. I'm rebuilding my M21 and I have a question I can't find the answer to. The bearing cage for the input shaft is is tapered on 1 side and flat on the other. I did not make note of that orientation when I took it apart. Can you please tell me which direction the cage should go into the input shaft. It appears to be important, as the bearings will be offset one way or the other
Thank you
The taper is there to make it easier to install the cage. So it faces forward. The bearings run flat so even if it is installed backwards it will not be a problem.
Wonderful content, thanks from Argentina
very nice work paul,enjoyed every minute! thanks alot!
lewwoodthing Thanks much appreciated.
+GearBoxVideo So how much are the Spec-25's
+lewwoodthing all pricing is at MuncieBook.com
+GearBoxVideo i dont see a price for the Spec-25, will you be building the Spec-30 and 35? if so, when will they be available?
+lewwoodthing Its at munciebook.com read the features section or go to www.spec25.com
Thank you for the great Information
Paul do you scrap the assemblies that have rock and slop in them? sounds expensive $ ?
Your the best builder I've seen.
I replace with all new and scrap the used parts
@@GearBoxVideo What about new parts that have slop in them? I know nothing slips past you if its defective I know you won't use them. Ive learned so much from you Paul.
I buy and manufacture quality parts. You have to know what is acceptable and what is not. Most of the Ebay parts are horrible yet 1000's of people every year buy them because they are simply price shopping. Eventually have early failures or rebuilds that have problems. Hopefully watching my videos you'll educate yourself to know what is good.
All in the details! Great info.
Great stuff! More than enough info to make me never want to get in there! Pay the specialist, its worth it!
Whatever happened to the London video? I think i heard that Jeff wasnt pleased about it buf i cant see that he wouldn't have known? Irrespective, it was a great vid and gavd a great insight into the depth that Jeff got into stuff. Missing that guy and would love to see that vid again!
Its still on the channel
What's it called as I can't find it! I must be wrong in my thinking that it has London in the title. Loving your channel. I've never attempted anything with transmissions as I've been scared of them! I'm soaking up the knowledge! Shame I opted for a tko600 in my 32 coupe! Ha!
Jeff was fine with it.
ruclips.net/video/9Ly53xx4Fj0/видео.htmlfeature=shared
GREAT ! Now I have tg take my Box Apart Again.
Where I grew up there was a place that rebuilt these boxes " Brian " I am sure you know of him,
I had more failures from them. As I later evolved... another place made a Jig and found the cases were distorting
and found ways to get proper dimensions back by boring and bushing..
Have you done any video's on testing cases for distorting ?
I am new here.... You make me Smart ! TY.
I don't have the equipment here to do that. I've been trying to get the guy who aligns and bushes the cases to do a video with me.. But he doesn't have the time..
@@GearBoxVideo I do believe the box failures I experienced were case related and it is a very hidden problem today, as with how many times these have been rebuilt. Thank you for your speedy reply.
Your info and work is Stellar.
Regards, M.
very good explianation
Such a craftsman! I enjoy and learn so much from all of your videos. Any chance there are some T-56 videos in the works?
Tim Traylor I'm trying to get a T56 core in that's affordable since I have to do one for an upcoming book on Tremec transmissions
GearBoxVideo Great news... if it wasn't track season I would send you mine!!!
Nice job Paul your the BEST.
Geo P Appreciate it.
Few questions that pertains to sm465. So its imperative that the hub past unrestricted thru the slider ? When the keys and springs are installed should the springs be installed 180 degrees from each other. Thanks.
the hub and slider should be free and key springs 180 or to give a good balance
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Hi Paul I had a shop rebuilt my m20 for my 1965 corvette and when you shift into 3rd gear under load you get a weird chirpy or squealing noise, only third gear. I am taking it back for them to listen and comment. Any idea what could cause this? They also said to use 30 weight motor oil, I did not like that idea and put in standard gear oil, 80-90. your videos are great, wish I knew about them before taking my transmission to the shop to be rebuilt.
Without actually knowing what making model parts they used in the build I wouldn't be able to help you much.
Excellent info video! Thank you :D
Great tip thanks, im rebuiding a honda j1 jdm transmission.
Thank you Ryan
Awesome tips👍🏼
Thanks for watching!
great work
Thanks again.
great video
Thanks
Paul, have you got any videos on A833's. I believe I've looked over all you have on RUclips. I have a 68 Plymouth B body which I'm converting from Auto to manual.
Not yet. It's featured in my book which is available from Amazon. Search for Paul Cangialosi
very good video learned alot thanks
265chevy Thanks for watching it
Great info!
Thanks
Hi Paul, I've got a box that gets stuck in a gear. With the engine on, brake applied and clutch in, I can get in/out any gears butter smooth. Eliminating all possible causes during strip down and inspection, I can only narrow it down to the synchro hub and slider fitting very loosely on one of the cluster. The assembly rocks quite epicly compared to other cluster that has no issue. Could this be the cause of the issue if the slider gets cocked once engaged?
The fork should hold it from getting way out of square, unless the fork is worn as well. It could be that the rings are low fitting and the keys are starting to slip out
GearBoxVideo Thanks for the reply. One key popped out last time the case was apart and was found in the drain plug magnet. New synchro was put on and checked for gap and grab (which was all good) and new spring was put on. As a non expert, I didn't check the hub and slider until this time around when it got stuck.
Very interesting but what is the guy like myself that only bought one set of synchro rings if none fit great? Can they be worked on?
What did you buy ? Where did you buy? What precisely is the problem?
I was just speaking in general terms. I am planning on getting a rebuild kit from you. Actually did some work for an old timer he could not pay but had 3 m20s in parts laying around so I got them. I want to fix them up right they been sitting for 30 years 2 7/8 and one 1 inch bore I want to fix them all up right but keep the 1 inch bore for myself with your m22w gears not looking to make money pers say just want to do them slow and keep one for my 68 Camaro with the 411 rear gears.
Hi Paul,my super t10 4th gear synchro has no endplay when I dry fit the input shaft. I did not forget the .050 spacer. Can and should I add an additional shim to give endplay to the 4th gear synchro. The synchro keys are not interfering. Any suggestions?Thanks for your help. If not for your video I would of never knew about endplay!
+Joe Abbs Make sure you have your spacers set correctly. The .062" spacers go behind each snap ring. If you have the spacer in the wrong position you'll loose the endplay.
Hi Paul,3rd 4th synchro hub is tight against the snap ring of the main shaft. The input shaft when loaded with the needle bearings isn't bottoming out on the 050 spacer on the ;main shaft.& The 4th gear synchro is holding it from bottoming out. The Illustration shows the snap ring then the 3rd 4th synchro hub no 062 washer. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Excellent video Paul, Thank you
One question, Do you sell the matched slider/hub sets separately?
+seamlesspipe Yes I do
61 borg warener 4 sp rear yoke have 23 splice can put muncie shaft in it? thanks
I have this 4 speed manual transmission,with these numbers,please I will like to know what type o model gears etc and I have these numbers P0407,at the top a 3885010 and a patent 3088336 need help
Take the time to read the info on identication at www.munciebook.com
Thanks Paul that was really helpful 👍🏼😁
As always Paul, great video and information! I also loved your T5 rebuild with Eric the Car Guy. Can you tell me anything about the transmissions used on the 1990 Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight Regency Brougham and 1989 Buick Park Avenue? I have these two cars and they both have the 3800 engine (balance shaft). What transmission was fitted to these cars and how do you rate them? I know they are automatic, but wondered if you deal with these as well.
I really dont know much about those cars. Probably a 700R4 or 200R4. Both seem like good transmissions.
+GearBoxVideo Thank you! Do you work on automatic transmissions or just manual transmissions? I love your videos. I am very mechanically inclined. How do I start on learning & rebuilding manual transmissions?
+GearBoxVideo My brother has a Mustang Bullit with a T3650. Are they good? He says it has a hairline crack on it. This is just after he had a brand new engine installed. Have you worked on these transmissions?
Usually they are not cracks, just casting flash that looks like a crack. I have never seen one crack. They are pretty strong units.
+gsantander100 get some books on transmissions you are interested in rebuilding, start taking them apart and learning on your own. there are not too many courses anymore in schools that teach this. my book, building and modifying high-performance manual transmissions is a book used in quite a few school programs you may want to pick it up on Amazon.
I have a M21 and it is having a problem going into 3rd gear when racing! Any idea what the problem is and how to fix it? Any help would be wonderful.
Btw the trans shifts perfectly from 1st to 2nd and 3rd to 4th. My problem is going 2nd to 3rd!!!!
Best to describe what exactly the problem is
@@GearBoxVideo ok it's a 327 L79 with Dart Motown heads and a victor jr intake. When I'm just driving it shifts good 1st to 2nd and so on. When I'm racing it when I try to go from second dear to third is like hitting a wall. Now I can get it to go but only after fighting it into 3rd. It doesn't do any of this going into the other gears! 1st to 2nd is fine and 3rd to 4th is fine it's just 2nd to 3rd. Now if I short shift it at about 6000 rpms it will go but any higher than that well good luck!!! Btw I'm also running 4:88 gears in the rear end!!!
Make sure your air gap is correct for the clutch. If you want to shift at high RPM you need to make sure that you have at least a .040". Your synchronizer assembly may also need to be changed
hi paul, what do you think about carbon synchro from synchrotech company ? thanks
+Ryan Jones Carbon rings are used in most transmissions now. So it's not really a new technology. People are selling rings lined with Carbon Fiber and it really depends on the quality of the bond more than anything.
do you have any vids on the SM465?
Sorry I don't. Old Gm overhaul manuals do a good job of showing the rebuild process
Thank you for the info love the channel