I love zhongli but I’ll admit he is quite useless against azdaha in co-op without c2. Like c0 zhongli can be good for co-op if his meteorite can actually turn the mobs into stone, but if not then there’s just no point in bringing him at all. The way a c1 Layla contributes more to azdaha then c0 zhongli is so funny to me 😂
Yeah, that's why I bring c1 Layla to co-op even though her shield might be waay less stronger than Zhongli and break easily, but at least I'm helping my teammates rather than just protecting myself with a thicc shield. 😂 it's just selfish.
This. I have no problem with people bringing C0 Zhongli as long as it can contribute to the damage. Physical or heck burst damage c0 zhongli's are welcome but when they're not only c0 but just a shield bot... Then why are you even there? 🤦🤦
Yes zhonglis big problem is that he doesnt share his shield until you have c2 and its not even everytime(i think its only after burst.) Its really a shame because i absolutely love to play this character but i also coop a lot
@@alinee7698 as a C2 zhongli haver with a favonius lance and careful pillar placement you can basically get his burst up even before the cooldown ends
As a c0 burst support zhongli haver I don't even dare bring him to co-op since he doesn't contribute much. Also, I always give way to the host when they want to bring the same char. Anyway nice choice of bgm/music (not me jamming to it instead of paying attention to the vid lol).
In co op I always feel bad when I see another Yoimiya main because they probably have a better build then me but she’s my only well built character so if I want to contribute I have to use her 😥
No your situation is different. The problem is when someone has multiple well built characters but decides not to use a different one when there's someone else like you who wants to use them too. You don't have to worry about what other ppl think. Just tell them you don't have other characters that are well built and I'm sure 99% of them will understand and switch to someone else :)
Today (in my time zone) I formed a Pyro army by accident and the best there was c6 Bennett and Klee and uhh I hadn’t played Genshin in a while and just returned so firework girl
well unless their character level is 60 or under. In that case everyone should just leave since they probably just want to be carried so they can get friendship.
Don’t be afraid of people in coop man. If you know you have the better character, then tell them. If you’re sure that they will be useless then leave that coop team and find another one. I’m not saying to trashtalk them but if they don’t care then don’t waste your time on them. Coop is used to make things easier especially if your characters aren’t well built. The main point of coop in domains and bosses is finding other good players to help you farm. If they won’t cooperate then just leave them and don’t help them, they find good people to team up with but they just won’t cooperate when someone else has a better character. I hate people like these that think they are the best and just won’t listen.
True. I was hosting one time and someone had a c3 Scara that was lvl 90 the other had c0 Scara at lvl 80. I told the lower lvled person if they could switch. They got mad and starting whining for like a while. So I uh kicked em lol cos they were wasting time and like you said if they don't want to cooperate why co op.
Good point. If they understand the game well then they wouldn't enter a coop bc they could easily beat everything alone. Idk why we look down on people when they need help. I remember when I first joined a coop I'm so scared, I even couldnt manage to say that I only had Ganyu as the most well-built character and i couldn't switch to anyone else, i didnt even have a healer and rely on food. Now I can at least >33 stars Abyss and just bring a dps or Bennett to everywhere to help them
I beg to differ. The main point of playing co-op is having fun and experience something else than grinding alone. Doing the bosses alone is faster most of the time.
@_lilacxx what? It's not their responsibility to check. If you want to play as your character let the other party know. If anything, both parties are in the wrong
Even without communication you should never bring a shield bot c0 Zhongli to co-op. - Can shield-bots deal dmg? No. - Can c0 shield teammate? No. - Can c0 heal? No. The only thing a shield-bot c0 do is 20% res on all dmg, which only happens if you stay close to the enemies, at the expense of everything else. Is communication necessary? Yes. But so is knowing that you have the responsibility to contribute to the co-op. It’s called co-op, not everyone-for-themselves, for a reason. And if anyone should reach out first in this situation, it’s the c0 Zhongli user. Maybe they want to farm his friendship, or is a newbie who has no healer/support/dps decently built and that’s fine. But in that case they need to state that this is a c0 shield-bot and for these reasons they can only use Zhongli and need to be carried so that the others choose their characters accordingly. Heck I once went in with a 20Cr/200Cdmg c1 Heizou and said that I hadn’t been lucky with artifact but wanted to farm his friendship and therefore needed to be carried and my teammates were ok with it too. You just need to ask politely (and maybe pull out your r5 catch c2 zhongli if they refuse)
ok i haven’t watched the whole video yet.. but honestly you could always just explain nicely that your c6 zhongli will be more help and ask if you can use him instead. I bet they just wanted friendship levels for their zhongli, or maybe just pulled him and wants to use him more. There’s no point in silently changing character then judging other people’s build/wallet/weapons LOL
Or the c0 shield-bot can ask for help nicely if they can’t contribute to the co-op (it’s called co-op, not everyone-for-themselves, for a reason). It’s okay to not have the most meta characters, or the most meta builds, but they need to state that they need help so others know what to do in that situation. What if the other 2 ppl were newbies who can’t clear this boss alone and yet were trying their best to contribute? In that case isn’t it unfair for a c0 shield-bot who only cares about their own survival/enjoyment to also receive the same reward off of the other two’s efforts? Once again, it’s okay to need help, but you don’t expect people to politely ask if they have the permission to help you. You ask others nicely for help if you need it.
The only time I brought my C0 zhongli was with my friend to to a troll team, I finished the boss with my 2000 damage zhongli while having a blast and everyone cheering x) Now I want to pull for C2 to help them :)
"Oh no, Raiden's down...but we still got Nahida! Go, Nahida!" ...Umm...no...Nahida can't DPS when the only remaining members are anemo, geo and dendro, and the anemo isn't Jean or Kazuha (self-swirl...pretty suicidal with Azhdaha tho...lol ) Even with C6, it's still pretty tough...Venti was the only DPS that was left there...lol
This is why id rather bring my c4 lvl 70 diona than my c0 lvl 90 zhongli in this boss(or any domains honestly)…i feel embarassed being useless in co op and not contributing anything on the team. Besides i only built him as a shieldbot so his dmg is shit too. I’ll prolly only use him when i get him to c2 and have decided to build his stats more.
Yeah, I almost never use Zhongli in weekly bosses coop. He's my favorite character in this game and I love playing him but I only have him at C0, I don't wanna be a burden😞 I wish I had his C2 but I can't really spend that much money on one character since I prefer having multiple units. I build him burst dps with staff of homa, so he does deal some damage, but at that point I rather use Diona, Bennett or Kokomi.
if its a decent amount of damage (comparable to that of a sub dps or higher) id say you could get away with bringing zhongli in if there is someone else bringing a healer or you may want to mention your zhongli is a damage dealer and not c2
Can relate to this.. lol.. i said to them guys i got your shield coz im c2, and the other player said nobody cares just start. Okay. So i just go on with my Tighnari and just watch them get slayed by Raiden boss from a distance..lol
If i were you, i would let that Zhongli main know that my Zhongli is c6 even if it sounds arrogant just for the sake of keeping everyone in the party alive. Just saying.
I hate this too. Someone forced me to swap my level 90 hu tao for their level 60 in the dragonspine domain. Then when I pulled out Diluc, they kicked me out. So I simply farm alone.
Ive done thousands of coop domains and having bad experiences with jerks is few and far between. Don't let those few bad experiences keep you from coop because the good outweighs the bad by a lot.
A bit of topic but I really wish c2+ Zhonglis could tell us their c2+. I remember I joined as Koko this one time and this c2 Zhongli didn't communicate. Another person chose Hu Tao and another Ayato. So the whole time I felt I was doing more harm than good :( So I basically stayed back. When I'm Koko I like being the only person keeping us alive, the only character I'm fine with being Deyha. So I prefer communication
To be honest I'm a C2 Zhongli user but I'm afraid to tell people that mine is C2 bc - It can be seen as bragging - C2 can only shield when Q, which isn't much of a problem for Zhongli, but I do f up sometimes and not have my Q off cooldown (and I'm extra scared when Hu Tao users are involved)
@@fluffymeow885 Ah I understand your point. I think that if people see you using Zhongli they may think of you in a bad way until you mention c2 they’ll be relieved and the second point I do understand completely as well. Yes you have a point. If there’s Hu Tao involved especially it is a problem
Typically, I dont use my c0 zhongli in Azdaha's domain. I rather use characters that can contribute to the damage than someone who doesn't do anything other than provide shields for oneself. Same reason in coop domains, I'll use c0 zhongli, but ONLY because he does dmg with his burst and I can get it repeatedly.
Oh my god. This is so painful to watch. Even my c0 burst damage dealer has consistent uptime of burst with favonius lance and has bigger damage on his burst. 😭😭 Why is he using black tassel on coop ??? He can't even consistently burst because of it.
There were times the whole team carried a lvl 20 in weekly and everyone’s cheers for graciousness, then there were times like one player brought a C0 lvl 90 toon and suddenly everyone shamed him.. why?
i don't mind C0 zhonglis in coop since, if well built, they do absolutely decent damage (even with hp sands and goblet mine easily hits 3K with autos), but bringing C0 zhongli to azhdaha is literally pointless because of his insane geo and physical resistance. ESPECIALLY when it is clearly a shieldbot build with black tassel who rushes to hold E the moment it's CD ends. like, you shielded yourself, good for you, now what are you gonna do when all your teammates die? tickle azhdaha to death? honestly, annoying asf, not because of selfishness (i know how to dodge and i always have nre, i'll be fine), but because of absolute stupidity and ignorance. seems like they joined the battle not to help the team win, but to participate in "i can't afford losing a single hp" challenge.
@@Platina_ Its just minor frustrations. No ones getting as worked up as you claim to be. The video is bound to have these types of comments so Idek why you’re here when the entire comment section is like this and promoted by the video
At first I even tried to give them BOTD, maybe they need to be carried… but they didn’t even claim the reward at the end. Lmao. Some of the people in the comments keep defending them and it makes me remember why I don’t ever coop weekly bosses.
played on my alt for reasons and i didnt have my c4 zhongli so i just went w/ my c0 one but i mean the team did have like 2 healers so they didnt mind much its just that when i was abt to get my reward i forgot that i already claimed a reward this week 😞😞
My yao yao and zhongli have the same build, but lately I just have been leaving it on yao yao bc I'd never take my c0 zhongli into co op and he doesn't even need the artifacts anyway, you can literally just put him on any support artifact with an HP main stat
i got zhongli for myself to help in early game but later on i ended up building diona (i already had her c2) so that i could shield people in coop. I only ever brought my c0 zhongli to coop when i played with one friend and couldn't survive without him
my zhongli is c0 and i knowingly never brought him into co-op cause id feel so bad for the others if i basically just run around not getting hurt while they do all the work
this reminds me of that one time when someone with a level 60 Raiden cooped with me but i also had my Raiden out but my Raiden was level 80 but that person still refused to change
Respect to the Player who allow John Lee C0 enter Coop bettel Nice job🗿👍 But sometime random Coop need to allow DPS John Lee Join Coop i'm always getting Kick with my John Lee C1 133k burst C1 John Lee why can't join🤧🤧🤧
not even trying to be toxic...but c0 zhongli in co op is ass like bro you're just shielding yourself and sending down an occasional meatball from the sky.
Seriously lol. I don’t get it. Not a single other character they could bring? They’re shielding themselves… to do what? Defeat slimes faster with the black tassel? 😩
I don't really mind people bringing C0 Zhongli, he might be the only viable char for some newbies, unless if they insist to solo when everyone else dies, doing minimal damage and act like why y'all die then I'm not okay lol
Cases like this is the reason I practiced solo not only because I can find my optimal character to use in the domain, but to find possible alternatives depending on the situation. But yeah, communication is most important when in co-op otherwise the whole team could start pointing fingers and blaming others.
I don't really see the issue. I've got C6 Zhongli but I still let people play Zhongli if they want even if they're C0. Coop is supposed to be fun. I find it more fun that we actually struggle a little with the chars we bring. If it doesn't work we'd just leave and try a different team. No big deal, smh.
The issue is they're not contributing anything at all, they're only protect themselves not to mention that zhongli is probably built full hp for shield. That's selfish and it's not fun playing with people like them. also azhada has a huge geo res, they could've atleast brought a healer if they can't afford his c2 or if they're just building friendship exp they could've had just solo azhada.
I would just told this player that my Zhongli is technically better because he can shield us and kick them out if they don't want to switch lol it should be obvious that the person who has a better build or constellations should use the character.
It's ironic at 5:10 bc both anemo and geo don't work together plus their personalities are the total opposite XDD But u two still completed the domain anyway so well done
Yeah, also people wants to use their support and low built venti even if i took him first. My Venti is a 3 crowned well built dps with c2 and pole star. But they dont let me take him even if i took him first and they have other good/better chars. Dont get me wrong, im a f2p, im just waiting for Venti as long as i can because i like him. Same goes for all mondstadt chars. And im a bit lucky. But im kind so i always let them take venti 🥲 they only let when they see they couldnt do much. Then they see my dmg.
I think holding E skill before going inside the domain will avoid these kind of situation. But yeah some ppl might still use C0 coz they want to troll/they gen don't know/just hard headed.
My zhongli using the catch, C0 ofc. But atleast he can give 40k+ dmg when burst. But I never use zhongli in coop, I rather use kokomi. Zhongli C0 only for solo (for me)
this video popped up in my recommended section and it reminds me of a player who refused to change his Eula although his build was really sh*t and he scolded me although my Eula was better than him * he was continuosly spamming "f*ck you" until I decided to change
I wanna play zhongli on coop already (but kind of buillt him as a burst dps hahah so my shield aint the thickess but it'll do),,, so I'm saving for his c2 huhu hoping for him to have a rerun soon
Please don't hate on C0 Zhongli users in co-op domains! Sometimes, they just need a little carrying but do not want to die early on, so they use Zhongli to survive. And they might also only have Zhongli built. Edit: This comment section is so disgusting. Everyone hating on newbie coop players are so fking toxic. TELL THEM that u dont want them to use that character. That player probably DOESNT EVEN KNOW that Zhongli cons can share shield. Speak up. Y'all so fking toxic not saying anything during choosing phase, then go on genshin comment sections to roll ur eyes and berate them for being useless. Take the L because YOU who knows better did NOT speak up.
Dunno about other ppl, but personally I'd rather have someone bring a lv1 character to Azhdaha than bring lv90 C0-1 Zhongli tho...bcs when someone pick Zhongli in Azhdaha, a lot of times, the other ppl will just trust that you have C2 and don't bring any other shielder or healer in...If you just made it clear you want a carry and the team lets you without any toxicity, at least someone else might help bring another healer or shielder in and it might end a lot faster...Just my opinion tho...Not like you can help deal any dmg against boss with 70% geo resistance anyway, so I see no point of bringing Zhongli just so you alone can survive while everyone else dies...
@@J-D-S fr tho, but I lost hope in every Zhongli I’ve met 😢 every time they bring Zhongli I just pray that he’s C2 or more but they’re always C0, they even flex their C1 too
@@J-D-S The thing is, I never had an issue with anyone bringing who they wanna use in domains. I play in Asia server and no one rly gives a shi who you're using. Let's not forget those who don't even read five star cons and stick to C0 all the time. They don't even know that's the "norm" when bringing in Zhongli. Just scrolling down the comments on this video makes me so shocked that other people are so pressed by someone bringing a certain character. But I guess, that's also just my opinion. I guess I'm glad I never been in that situation where I have to change character because someone thinks my character is bad for the domain
@@J-D-S hmm.. i don't know usually when i see someone use a zhongli I wouldn't immediately assume they'd have cons to be honest because most of the times people just gets c0.. so unless we play and i see shield around me then I'd assume oh they have cons. And while I don't recommend c0 shield bot zhonglis because they'd contribute less, i'm fine with it if they're dps or burst damage dealers. a help is a help especially when it helps in damaging. Though, uhhh I don't know if I'd be fine with anyone bringing a level 1 character more than a zhongli c0. :/
Not only do you need C2 Zhongli in co-op, but should have enough ER that his burst comes up often enough. I don't get people. My rules for co-op selection: 1) host gets to play whomever they want 2) If someone else plays same character give it to them unless I have more levels 3) use your words: "My Zhongli is C2, lvl 90, triple crowned, homa ... how's yours?" and agree from there 4) Sometimes include CR/CD in that 5) if someone insists, let them. Maybe that's their best character for the situation. 6) Don't be a dick and, say, play a healer/shielder as 2nd choice then not heal or shield people! So I really don't get arguments. Zhongli, though. Love him but don't use him in co-op unless C2 at least!
Damn, even my shield bot c0 Zhongli does bigger dmg than this (13k burst without crit) Even if you want to farm friendship, this isn't reasonable to bring shield bot c0 Zhongli
Tbh.. I love my C0 Zhongli.. But for Co-op.. It's time for my Kokomi to take over.. I mean.. If J can't shied u.. Let me heal u real quick alright..?? 😂
I wonder what's ur stats. I have 30k hp, 2007 atk (homa passive, hp less than 50%), 205 cd, 64 cr, and I only hit 97k with his shield shredd only. I spent a year in r/zhonglimains, and from what I've noticed, most like to exaggerate abt their dmg for sm reason.
Omg. I just watched to the end. The dumbass didn’t even collect the boss drops. SO HE WAS DEADWEIGHT FOR NOTHING…. (I also am mean but I also don’t have good feelings when someone frantically runs around in coop… I know a lot of kids play the game lol…) you’re very nice to have continued playing lmfao.
@@unrestrictedaccess7sure that’s fine but like I mentioned they didn’t even help and insisted on bringing their c0 Zhongli when the host clearly was trying to bring their own (c6) Zhongli. Not trying to shake anyone’s c0 since I too only have c0 but then they’re being deadweight to the team
Hi venti main here, I haven't tried em but did it with atk. 2k atk is average for venti and you could easily reach 3k burst with vv and 1:2 crit. I currently using 2 atk and 2 vv and he did almost 4k burst
@@TighnariMainWithoutTighnari Also my Talent for the burst is 8..I think it was the Talent for the burst- I want him to be my first triple crowned so the talents are currently a work in progress 😅
Bringing or using C0 Zhongli is just hella selfish as I learned from experience so I try using mine if its really necessary as I built mine for just the shield and bringing C2 Zhongli is good enough. Moral of the Story never bring C1 or C0 Zhongli to a domain or co-op
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I love zhongli but I’ll admit he is quite useless against azdaha in co-op without c2. Like c0 zhongli can be good for co-op if his meteorite can actually turn the mobs into stone, but if not then there’s just no point in bringing him at all. The way a c1 Layla contributes more to azdaha then c0 zhongli is so funny to me 😂
Yeah, that's why I bring c1 Layla to co-op even though her shield might be waay less stronger than Zhongli and break easily, but at least I'm helping my teammates rather than just protecting myself with a thicc shield. 😂 it's just selfish.
Also I think Azdaha has geo resistance too so Zhongli's probably not the best character to use in his domain 😅
@@yabrofenko boi it's not a dps there talkin abt it's about shields get ur 10 yr old brain out of here
Same with venti ish
For real tho, even my Diona is more useful than this C0 Zhongli. Not only she is a healer she also gives shield.
Azhadha:" You dare overstep your mortal authority!?"
Venti and the others: "Bruh"
Yeah, it’s frustrating when your coop teammate is a man-child. C0 Zhongli has only 1% contribution in coop battle, unless it’s dps or physical
This. I have no problem with people bringing C0 Zhongli as long as it can contribute to the damage. Physical or heck burst damage c0 zhongli's are welcome but when they're not only c0 but just a shield bot... Then why are you even there? 🤦🤦
Yes zhonglis big problem is that he doesnt share his shield until you have c2 and its not even everytime(i think its only after burst.) Its really a shame because i absolutely love to play this character but i also coop a lot
@@alinee7698 as a C2 zhongli haver with a favonius lance and careful pillar placement you can basically get his burst up even before the cooldown ends
I mean even kokomi is more useful in this situation
@@choog5650 yes but u need a crertain build with er then, u cant just do your e and thats all
As a c0 burst support zhongli haver I don't even dare bring him to co-op since he doesn't contribute much. Also, I always give way to the host when they want to bring the same char. Anyway nice choice of bgm/music (not me jamming to it instead of paying attention to the vid lol).
I use my sweet C0 Zhongli only for myself, i wouldnt DARE to take a shielder that only shields itself on co-op.
Bringing a c0 zhongli in coop is one of the most selfish things especially if its builded just for the shield
O-oh
Should have told him that you have C6, but not sure since it might be seen as bragging.
In co op I always feel bad when I see another Yoimiya main because they probably have a better build then me but she’s my only well built character so if I want to contribute I have to use her 😥
No your situation is different. The problem is when someone has multiple well built characters but decides not to use a different one when there's someone else like you who wants to use them too. You don't have to worry about what other ppl think. Just tell them you don't have other characters that are well built and I'm sure 99% of them will understand and switch to someone else :)
Bring a c6 Yun jin with the yoymiya
@@PomahPon he literally said yoi is his only built character. And not everyone has a c6 yun jin
As a C1 Zhongli haver, this is why I want to pull another constellation for him due to this co-op circumstances.
You might not be able to use your C6 Zhongli, but you managed to get one of the luckiest co-op teams
Also nice song choices
YEAAA ONE TIME WE HAD LITERALLY ALL ARCHONS UNTIL SOMEONE SWITCHED AND EVERYONE DID UNTIL ONLY RAIDEN WAS LEFT 😭
wholesome 💝
Today (in my time zone) I formed a Pyro army by accident and the best there was c6 Bennett and Klee and uhh I hadn’t played Genshin in a while and just returned so firework girl
Well, they are the last of the seven who lived.😁
lmaoo
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For a second there was the archons, but arranged by size.
knowing co-op rules, the host always gets the right to use whatever character, no matter the level
well unless their character level is 60 or under. In that case everyone should just leave since they probably just want to be carried so they can get friendship.
This reminds me of the time I did the Blizzard Strayer domain with a C0 Zhongli...I ended up soloing with Yanfei
HOW DID THEY DIE!???
Don’t be afraid of people in coop man.
If you know you have the better character, then tell them.
If you’re sure that they will be useless then leave that coop team and find another one.
I’m not saying to trashtalk them but if they don’t care then don’t waste your time on them.
Coop is used to make things easier especially if your characters aren’t well built.
The main point of coop in domains and bosses is finding other good players to help you farm.
If they won’t cooperate then just leave them and don’t help them, they find good people to team up with but they just won’t cooperate when someone else has a better character.
I hate people like these that think they are the best and just won’t listen.
True. I was hosting one time and someone had a c3 Scara that was lvl 90 the other had c0 Scara at lvl 80. I told the lower lvled person if they could switch. They got mad and starting whining for like a while. So I uh kicked em lol cos they were wasting time and like you said if they don't want to cooperate why co op.
Good point.
If they understand the game well then they wouldn't enter a coop bc they could easily beat everything alone.
Idk why we look down on people when they need help.
I remember when I first joined a coop I'm so scared, I even couldnt manage to say that I only had Ganyu as the most well-built character and i couldn't switch to anyone else, i didnt even have a healer and rely on food.
Now I can at least >33 stars Abyss and just bring a dps or Bennett to everywhere to help them
I beg to differ. The main point of playing co-op is having fun and experience something else than grinding alone.
Doing the bosses alone is faster most of the time.
True, I had a similar experience but with wanderer. I should've just kicked them instead of just switching cuz it lowkey made me mad ☠️
I'd rather have another braindead dps teammate than a c0 Zhongli.
I would never dare to take non-C2 Zhong Li in co-op, luckily I have C3 Zhong Li and hope to get C6)
I mean... that’s what happens when you don’t communicate. You never mentioned yours being a C6 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Sherlock could've asked "is your zhongli C2?" instead of equipping their C0 Zhongli 😭 LIKE it's not Jimmy's fault, that person def in the wrong
@_lilacxx what? It's not their responsibility to check. If you want to play as your character let the other party know. If anything, both parties are in the wrong
Even without communication you should never bring a shield bot c0 Zhongli to co-op.
- Can shield-bots deal dmg? No.
- Can c0 shield teammate? No.
- Can c0 heal? No.
The only thing a shield-bot c0 do is 20% res on all dmg, which only happens if you stay close to the enemies, at the expense of everything else.
Is communication necessary? Yes. But so is knowing that you have the responsibility to contribute to the co-op. It’s called co-op, not everyone-for-themselves, for a reason.
And if anyone should reach out first in this situation, it’s the c0 Zhongli user. Maybe they want to farm his friendship, or is a newbie who has no healer/support/dps decently built and that’s fine. But in that case they need to state that this is a c0 shield-bot and for these reasons they can only use Zhongli and need to be carried so that the others choose their characters accordingly.
Heck I once went in with a 20Cr/200Cdmg c1 Heizou and said that I hadn’t been lucky with artifact but wanted to farm his friendship and therefore needed to be carried and my teammates were ok with it too. You just need to ask politely (and maybe pull out your r5 catch c2 zhongli if they refuse)
but i thought it's common sense to not be selfish by bringing c0 zhongli to protect only ur ass
Normally I will look at other players weapon if their weapon is much better than mine I will just give way..
ok i haven’t watched the whole video yet.. but honestly you could always just explain nicely that your c6 zhongli will be more help and ask if you can use him instead. I bet they just wanted friendship levels for their zhongli, or maybe just pulled him and wants to use him more. There’s no point in silently changing character then judging other people’s build/wallet/weapons LOL
Or the c0 shield-bot can ask for help nicely if they can’t contribute to the co-op (it’s called co-op, not everyone-for-themselves, for a reason).
It’s okay to not have the most meta characters, or the most meta builds, but they need to state that they need help so others know what to do in that situation. What if the other 2 ppl were newbies who can’t clear this boss alone and yet were trying their best to contribute? In that case isn’t it unfair for a c0 shield-bot who only cares about their own survival/enjoyment to also receive the same reward off of the other two’s efforts?
Once again, it’s okay to need help, but you don’t expect people to politely ask if they have the permission to help you. You ask others nicely for help if you need it.
Not really saw player which is horrible but still insist their chac…
The only time I brought my C0 zhongli was with my friend to to a troll team, I finished the boss with my 2000 damage zhongli while having a blast and everyone cheering x)
Now I want to pull for C2 to help them :)
"Oh no, Raiden's down...but we still got Nahida! Go, Nahida!"
...Umm...no...Nahida can't DPS when the only remaining members are anemo, geo and dendro, and the anemo isn't Jean or Kazuha (self-swirl...pretty suicidal with Azhdaha tho...lol ) Even with C6, it's still pretty tough...Venti was the only DPS that was left there...lol
Actually can't Venti swirl surrounding elements? I am not sure myself just asking :D
@@cutetip520 he can but anemo x dendro doesn't work 😭😭😭😭 i know i h8 it
i find it fortunate that venti was able to absorb pyro with the nahida, with azdaha luckily not going to cryo
But she trigering burning which does decent damage
But I was able to main Nahida.... as a dps... or am I using her wrong?
Raiden Nahida trust on Zhongli for shield turn out Zhongli only shield himself
This is why id rather bring my c4 lvl 70 diona than my c0 lvl 90 zhongli in this boss(or any domains honestly)…i feel embarassed being useless in co op and not contributing anything on the team. Besides i only built him as a shieldbot so his dmg is shit too. I’ll prolly only use him when i get him to c2 and have decided to build his stats more.
Yeah, I almost never use Zhongli in weekly bosses coop. He's my favorite character in this game and I love playing him but I only have him at C0, I don't wanna be a burden😞 I wish I had his C2 but I can't really spend that much money on one character since I prefer having multiple units. I build him burst dps with staff of homa, so he does deal some damage, but at that point I rather use Diona, Bennett or Kokomi.
if its a decent amount of damage (comparable to that of a sub dps or higher) id say you could get away with bringing zhongli in if there is someone else bringing a healer or you may want to mention your zhongli is a damage dealer and not c2
Can relate to this.. lol.. i said to them guys i got your shield coz im c2, and the other player said nobody cares just start. Okay. So i just go on with my Tighnari and just watch them get slayed by Raiden boss from a distance..lol
All those frustration could be avoided with communication.
Since you are the host, maybe Sherlock will listen had you asked them to switch.
Host gets priority, I wouldn't have changed.
If i were you, i would let that Zhongli main know that my Zhongli is c6 even if it sounds arrogant just for the sake of keeping everyone in the party alive. Just saying.
That was my first time seeing those attacks, I never knew he could do that.
only the oldest archons survived
6:45 I love how you started playing Ventis version of Soldier Poet King
I hate this too. Someone forced me to swap my level 90 hu tao for their level 60 in the dragonspine domain. Then when I pulled out Diluc, they kicked me out.
So I simply farm alone.
Ive done thousands of coop domains and having bad experiences with jerks is few and far between. Don't let those few bad experiences keep you from coop because the good outweighs the bad by a lot.
A bit of topic but I really wish c2+ Zhonglis could tell us their c2+. I remember I joined as Koko this one time and this c2 Zhongli didn't communicate. Another person chose Hu Tao and another Ayato. So the whole time I felt I was doing more harm than good :( So I basically stayed back. When I'm Koko I like being the only person keeping us alive, the only character I'm fine with being Deyha. So I prefer communication
To be honest I'm a C2 Zhongli user but I'm afraid to tell people that mine is C2 bc
- It can be seen as bragging
- C2 can only shield when Q, which isn't much of a problem for Zhongli, but I do f up sometimes and not have my Q off cooldown (and I'm extra scared when Hu Tao users are involved)
@@fluffymeow885 Ah I understand your point. I think that if people see you using Zhongli they may think of you in a bad way until you mention c2 they’ll be relieved and the second point I do understand completely as well. Yes you have a point. If there’s Hu Tao involved especially it is a problem
I could never bring my Zhongli into coop for this reason. Super sad that his shield doesnt share with others at c0
There's still the "rule of the host" kinda exists and i don't mean to be toxic by saying it. Well, at least it was full Archon team ;)
0:10 Early day Zhongli with Old Present day Zhongli
Typically, I dont use my c0 zhongli in Azdaha's domain. I rather use characters that can contribute to the damage than someone who doesn't do anything other than provide shields for oneself. Same reason in coop domains, I'll use c0 zhongli, but ONLY because he does dmg with his burst and I can get it repeatedly.
Oh my god. This is so painful to watch. Even my c0 burst damage dealer has consistent uptime of burst with favonius lance and has bigger damage on his burst. 😭😭 Why is he using black tassel on coop ??? He can't even consistently burst because of it.
I love your video it's so chill
c0 zhongli players: "you're fools, you all are just my tools. go defeat him. Im waiting inside this comfy shield."
This makes me appreciate my Layla even more, at least got C1 from the previous event
You should have told him you have Zhongli C6, he would have thought you were C0 too.
There were times the whole team carried a lvl 20 in weekly and everyone’s cheers for graciousness, then there were times like one player brought a C0 lvl 90 toon and suddenly everyone shamed him.. why?
"toon"???
^^Who's toon?
i don't mind C0 zhonglis in coop since, if well built, they do absolutely decent damage (even with hp sands and goblet mine easily hits 3K with autos), but bringing C0 zhongli to azhdaha is literally pointless because of his insane geo and physical resistance. ESPECIALLY when it is clearly a shieldbot build with black tassel who rushes to hold E the moment it's CD ends. like, you shielded yourself, good for you, now what are you gonna do when all your teammates die? tickle azhdaha to death? honestly, annoying asf, not because of selfishness (i know how to dodge and i always have nre, i'll be fine), but because of absolute stupidity and ignorance. seems like they joined the battle not to help the team win, but to participate in "i can't afford losing a single hp" challenge.
Geez imagine getting so pent up over what character someone decides to play in a video game
@@Platina_
Its just minor frustrations. No ones getting as worked up as you claim to be. The video is bound to have these types of comments so Idek why you’re here when the entire comment section is like this and promoted by the video
At first I even tried to give them BOTD, maybe they need to be carried… but they didn’t even claim the reward at the end. Lmao. Some of the people in the comments keep defending them and it makes me remember why I don’t ever coop weekly bosses.
well I've no problem with c0 burst dps zhongli's with homa and so on. At least they do some decent burst damage. But bruh, black tassel really?
played on my alt for reasons and i didnt have my c4 zhongli so i just went w/ my c0 one but i mean the team did have like 2 healers so they didnt mind much its just that when i was abt to get my reward i forgot that i already claimed a reward this week 😞😞
My yao yao and zhongli have the same build, but lately I just have been leaving it on yao yao bc I'd never take my c0 zhongli into co op and he doesn't even need the artifacts anyway, you can literally just put him on any support artifact with an HP main stat
i got zhongli for myself to help in early game but later on i ended up building diona (i already had her c2) so that i could shield people in coop. I only ever brought my c0 zhongli to coop when i played with one friend and couldn't survive without him
my zhongli is c0 and i knowingly never brought him into co-op cause id feel so bad for the others if i basically just run around not getting hurt while they do all the work
The arcon war visualized
this reminds me of that one time when someone with a level 60 Raiden cooped with me but i also had my Raiden out but my Raiden was level 80 but that person still refused to change
How was the coop going? Chaotic?
@@kotominekirei7330 yep, very chaotic. they kept on saying no, but we got the domain done in the end. Plus, their Raiden was extremely weak.
@@feng012 That is sad to hear. Why didn't they want to change, why didn't you dissolve the team, and what is your server, Asia?
@@kotominekirei7330 my server is actually America
@@feng012 That isn't surprising, coming from US server.
Respect to the Player who allow John Lee C0 enter Coop bettel Nice job🗿👍
But sometime random Coop need to allow DPS John Lee Join Coop i'm always getting Kick with my John Lee C1
133k burst C1 John Lee why can't join🤧🤧🤧
People who bring c0 zhongli to coop should atleast build 400em so that crystallize shields can take some damage.
Me the next time zhongli comes out try to bring him on C2
not even trying to be toxic...but c0 zhongli in co op is ass like bro you're just shielding yourself and sending down an occasional meatball from the sky.
Seriously lol. I don’t get it. Not a single other character they could bring? They’re shielding themselves… to do what? Defeat slimes faster with the black tassel? 😩
And against Azhdaha that occasional meatball is useless too because Azhdaha has 70% geo resistance.
@@ctran1955 but what if they are an zhongli main
@@khurshidalam7850Zhongli’s Main knowing how worst Black Tassel is🙆♀️
I don't really mind people bringing C0 Zhongli, he might be the only viable char for some newbies, unless if they insist to solo when everyone else dies, doing minimal damage and act like why y'all die then I'm not okay lol
Cases like this is the reason I practiced solo not only because I can find my optimal character to use in the domain, but to find possible alternatives depending on the situation. But yeah, communication is most important when in co-op otherwise the whole team could start pointing fingers and blaming others.
I don't really see the issue. I've got C6 Zhongli but I still let people play Zhongli if they want even if they're C0. Coop is supposed to be fun. I find it more fun that we actually struggle a little with the chars we bring. If it doesn't work we'd just leave and try a different team. No big deal, smh.
Also they could’ve communicated in chat that they’re C6 since no one is bringing a healer, and that would clear up all the misunderstandings
The issue is azhdaha has 70% geo and 40% phy resis, so those who use him there either r trolling or have 1 brain cell.
The issue is they're not contributing anything at all, they're only protect themselves not to mention that zhongli is probably built full hp for shield. That's selfish and it's not fun playing with people like them.
also azhada has a huge geo res, they could've atleast brought a healer if they can't afford his c2 or if they're just building friendship exp they could've had just solo azhada.
As a C5 haver,
I feel this.
I only use zhongli in coop when it’s only me and the world host
Zhongli just being greedy bro didn't wanna share the shield😂
I would just told this player that my Zhongli is technically better because he can shield us and kick them out if they don't want to switch lol it should be obvious that the person who has a better build or constellations should use the character.
It's ironic at 5:10 bc both anemo and geo don't work together plus their personalities are the total opposite XDD
But u two still completed the domain anyway so well done
Yeah, also people wants to use their support and low built venti even if i took him first.
My Venti is a 3 crowned well built dps with c2 and pole star. But they dont let me take him even if i took him first and they have other good/better chars.
Dont get me wrong, im a f2p, im just waiting for Venti as long as i can because i like him. Same goes for all mondstadt chars. And im a bit lucky.
But im kind so i always let them take venti 🥲 they only let when they see they couldnt do much. Then they see my dmg.
Let them have fun bruh why do you have to flex so much.. anyway you gonna win.
This is like the canon thing lol with how only the 2 of the original archons remaining
me personally i would not have let that slide
I have zhongli but he's C0. That's why I'd rather bring Diona to Azhdaha domain in co-op
I think holding E skill before going inside the domain will avoid these kind of situation. But yeah some ppl might still use C0 coz they want to troll/they gen don't know/just hard headed.
My zhongli using the catch, C0 ofc. But atleast he can give 40k+ dmg when burst.
But I never use zhongli in coop, I rather use kokomi. Zhongli C0 only for solo (for me)
this video popped up in my recommended section and it reminds me of a player who refused to change his Eula although his build was really sh*t and he scolded me although my Eula was better than him
* he was continuosly spamming "f*ck you" until I decided to change
the Archon who killed La Signora, he was killed by Azhdaha first hahaha
I thought nice he's not shielding he must be DPS and I saw his burst like 4k wtf are u doing
"zhongil walmart."
i dun mind as long keep dmg the boss and we still can dash
His name is sherlock but he is not that very clever lol
I wanna play zhongli on coop already (but kind of buillt him as a burst dps hahah so my shield aint the thickess but it'll do),,, so I'm saving for his c2 huhu hoping for him to have a rerun soon
it's hard to say:i have c6
no it's not
Please don't hate on C0 Zhongli users in co-op domains! Sometimes, they just need a little carrying but do not want to die early on, so they use Zhongli to survive. And they might also only have Zhongli built.
Edit: This comment section is so disgusting. Everyone hating on newbie coop players are so fking toxic. TELL THEM that u dont want them to use that character. That player probably DOESNT EVEN KNOW that Zhongli cons can share shield. Speak up. Y'all so fking toxic not saying anything during choosing phase, then go on genshin comment sections to roll ur eyes and berate them for being useless. Take the L because YOU who knows better did NOT speak up.
Dunno about other ppl, but personally I'd rather have someone bring a lv1 character to Azhdaha than bring lv90 C0-1 Zhongli tho...bcs when someone pick Zhongli in Azhdaha, a lot of times, the other ppl will just trust that you have C2 and don't bring any other shielder or healer in...If you just made it clear you want a carry and the team lets you without any toxicity, at least someone else might help bring another healer or shielder in and it might end a lot faster...Just my opinion tho...Not like you can help deal any dmg against boss with 70% geo resistance anyway, so I see no point of bringing Zhongli just so you alone can survive while everyone else dies...
@@J-D-S fr tho, but I lost hope in every Zhongli I’ve met 😢 every time they bring Zhongli I just pray that he’s C2 or more but they’re always C0, they even flex their C1 too
@@J-D-S The thing is, I never had an issue with anyone bringing who they wanna use in domains. I play in Asia server and no one rly gives a shi who you're using. Let's not forget those who don't even read five star cons and stick to C0 all the time. They don't even know that's the "norm" when bringing in Zhongli.
Just scrolling down the comments on this video makes me so shocked that other people are so pressed by someone bringing a certain character. But I guess, that's also just my opinion. I guess I'm glad I never been in that situation where I have to change character because someone thinks my character is bad for the domain
I always dodging even without shielder and healer im still alive
@@J-D-S hmm.. i don't know usually when i see someone use a zhongli I wouldn't immediately assume they'd have cons to be honest because most of the times people just gets c0.. so unless we play and i see shield around me then I'd assume oh they have cons. And while I don't recommend c0 shield bot zhonglis because they'd contribute less, i'm fine with it if they're dps or burst damage dealers. a help is a help especially when it helps in damaging. Though, uhhh I don't know if I'd be fine with anyone bringing a level 1 character more than a zhongli c0. :/
Can someone tell the big rock dragon that he’s fighting gods, not mortals😂
5:07 like when Morax threw literal mountains at Venti?😂😂😂
My casual Barbara is better than that, with 1k hits, 25k on that watatsumi set per 3 sec, and 1,2k heals per hit
Hoat is always first in my eyes.
My Zhongli is still c0, but he is 63/176, 5k with NA, 69k burst with geo resonance. I don't use him in co-op though, due to lack of constellations
Not only do you need C2 Zhongli in co-op, but should have enough ER that his burst comes up often enough. I don't get people. My rules for co-op selection: 1) host gets to play whomever they want 2) If someone else plays same character give it to them unless I have more levels 3) use your words: "My Zhongli is C2, lvl 90, triple crowned, homa ... how's yours?" and agree from there 4) Sometimes include CR/CD in that 5) if someone insists, let them. Maybe that's their best character for the situation. 6) Don't be a dick and, say, play a healer/shielder as 2nd choice then not heal or shield people!
So I really don't get arguments. Zhongli, though. Love him but don't use him in co-op unless C2 at least!
Damn, even my shield bot c0 Zhongli does bigger dmg than this (13k burst without crit)
Even if you want to farm friendship, this isn't reasonable to bring shield bot c0 Zhongli
Tbh.. I love my C0 Zhongli.. But for Co-op.. It's time for my Kokomi to take over.. I mean.. If J can't shied u.. Let me heal u real quick alright..?? 😂
Although my zhongli is c0 he's built like a god always carries in coop not less than 110k on burst (except azhdaha fight) idk why .
Well,Azhdaha has geo res
@@dainn55 but then also 40k on azhdaha is it good with geo res active?
@@Lastvozz,It is good
Yeah but really not the best option.. it’s not like really big damage because if he doesn’t have lot of er he can’t really spam his burst..
I wonder what's ur stats. I have 30k hp, 2007 atk (homa passive, hp less than 50%), 205 cd, 64 cr, and I only hit 97k with his shield shredd only.
I spent a year in r/zhonglimains, and from what I've noticed, most like to exaggerate abt their dmg for sm reason.
hm that's why use a healer if this happens!
But you didn’t even tell them that your Zhongli is C6…
Sorry, but it's really funny. It's too hard…😂
Omg. I just watched to the end. The dumbass didn’t even collect the boss drops. SO HE WAS DEADWEIGHT FOR NOTHING….
(I also am mean but I also don’t have good feelings when someone frantically runs around in coop… I know a lot of kids play the game lol…) you’re very nice to have continued playing lmfao.
He is free to take the reward or not. He may play for achievements or because of boredom. You have to learn some manners
@@unrestrictedaccess7sure that’s fine but like I mentioned they didn’t even help and insisted on bringing their c0 Zhongli when the host clearly was trying to bring their own (c6) Zhongli. Not trying to shake anyone’s c0 since I too only have c0 but then they’re being deadweight to the team
@@Alawi_Kinghen they should just play solo lol. if anything that person should learn manners. I only get mad when I see inconsiderate people
who else was cringing at the venti gameplay?
My c0 zhongli can do 5x that damage on a support build 😭
How do you make your Q do 1k-2k damage with your venti? My E does and charge shots do more damage then my Q- it only do around 700 damage
Hi venti main here, I haven't tried em but did it with atk. 2k atk is average for venti and you could easily reach 3k burst with vv and 1:2 crit. I currently using 2 atk and 2 vv and he did almost 4k burst
@@TighnariMainWithoutTighnari Also my Talent for the burst is 8..I think it was the Talent for the burst- I want him to be my first triple crowned so the talents are currently a work in progress 😅
sherlock is so embarassing
I have Zhongli C1😢
how tf his burst does 7k? Mine only hp build (60k hp) and 1/10/1 but it does 30k💀
Cap mines 63k and burst damage 18-22k, are you like on r3 or r5 homa 😂
Overproud Zhongli haver there😂
Bringing or using C0 Zhongli is just hella selfish as I learned from experience so I try using mine if its really necessary as I built mine for just the shield and bringing C2 Zhongli is good enough.
Moral of the Story never bring C1 or C0 Zhongli to a domain or co-op
Is it even worth it going after Zhongli's constellations just for the fact that gives them a shield after his burst??