That's 8x PCI Express. One way to tell, besides the product spec list, is by that little extra piece sticking out just before the connector. Notice here there are no extra pieces sticking out on this PCI card. There are also two notches cut out in a modern PCI edge connector. www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/zt-50610-10l_image3_1.jpg
I feel like I am seeing the infancy of a future giant channel. There are no channels doing the "I wonder how x" tech investigating with such high quality videos. It is amazing to see how much you know and how competently you are able to get the information across while being entertaining. You are going to go far with this kind of work!
I have sunk nearly my whole day re-watching nearly your entire channel all over again. Love it.
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The GT520 was the first GPU I ever bought with my own money back in 2011. For someone who only played Minecraft and TF2 on a Pentium E2160 on a 720p display, it served me well enough for the better part of 4 years. Long live my GTX970 SLI
RUclips made me dig so hard for this video, and it was EXACTLY what I was looking for! Thank you for doing some real world testing of PCI bus graphics cards!
Great videos, good that someone is showing how far we've come, 15 years ago I had a PCI 9200SE as it was all I could afford (and PC only had PCI slot), always wondered how much extra I got now from my 1060! I'll see if I have any of the old hardware and contact you to see if you want it.
nVidia had an interesting way of increasing performance on the low bandwidth systems around the later part of the ION days. When Intel went to the SoC style Atom chipset, nVidia still offered a 1x embedded gpu for those netbooks, however they also had a software compression option built into the drivers for it. And this provided a very light compression to interface bandwidth, however in some circumstances it was a very large increase in performance. This was only ever intended to be usable on those atom platforms, however it is possible to enable this mode on other configurations. And it is able to get the PCI interface to actually out perform the 1x interface (without compression) in nearly all situations. It is especially useful on more powerful systems that have the cpu power to implement the compression. Whereas the Atom had limited performance to do so.
I work with arcade games, and I keep a few of these PCI cards around to use on games where the motherboard graphics have gone out. They tend to work well, as long as the motherboard supports the card drivers. Also used a few with motherboards that have no onboard graphics at all, mainly server boards. Not gonna get a great gaming experience, but they have been lifesavers for old boards that need to be serviced and repaired.
Judging by the quality of content on this channel I thought I was looking at a RUclipsr with more than 20 times the amount of subscribers than this channel actually has.
I know right? I just hopped on the PixelPipes train a little over a week ago and the channel was sitting at ~1K subs. And I see this channel just continuing to grow because there are seriously interesting videos, and the video "The Fastest Graphics Card on a PCI Bus" is actually hella useful for me since I'm in the market for a low-pro PCI card.
pattern spotted. games with a lot of asset streaming will stress the bus a lot more and kill performance on the pci card. games with very demanding shaders won't care as much, as the code being passed for the card to process isn't large and the complex operations are all done within the card itself, with no need of going through the bus. makes sense. btw, subscribed. love this kind of video.
+GraveUypo Yes. For instance in 3DMark03 Mother Nature test, framerate is actually quite fast just looking at the water (shader intense), but dives when a lot of geometry is on screen and animating (swaying trees/grass) which requires frequent updates from the CPU.
YEA! i'm was too young to be into computer building when AGP was still a thing. in the mean time can you make a video explaining agp x2,x4,x8 and agp pro for people like me who are confused as pcie has been the only thing i've had too work with.
Guessing its a bit down too how much power it can use as well in each respective port as it might be different clock speeds or ram types. Also how about checking how much you can overclock as well on pci-e 16x as the card has 75w from the slot there you should be able to get a bit extra performance out of it & the card should only pull 29w in load on the pci-e version. Which might open up a bit on people looking at cheap silent options for an older system that just needs a graphics card for a certain era of games + some visual goodies such as anti aliasing & texture filtering.
What kind of wattage does the PCI Slot supply? i assume the 520 does not take external power, and i know the pcie e slot can supply something up to 75w.
I kinda hope you will dig the pci/AGP/PCIe video idea out of the scrap bin at some point in the future. Maybe there is a beefier card that supports all 3? Or maybe you could delve into AGP 2x, 4x, 8x, PCIe 1x, 4x, etc and see where things level off for each interface. I saw someone request a video detailing AGP and the 2x, 4x, etc. I would like to see a vid on that too.
You don't actually need to cut the GPU, instead you make a small notch on the right side of the motherboard connector with a dremel (HP does this with some boards, I saw it on a C2D system for the 4x slot. It has a small notch on the right side cut out so any size GPU can fit).
Not really related to the topic of this video but I'm amazed by the performance gap from the Ti 4600 and the 9800 pro, I own a Ti 4400 and a 9800xt, ti4400 is in my slot 1 p3 rig, and the 9800xt I have installed in a p4 3ghz windows 98 project at the moment
I have two PCIe 1x slots and I have no idea what to do with them. I have WiFi on Ethernet so I won’t need a wireless connection. Do you have any recommendations?
I have an old Optiplex gx110 that I run OS/2 on, I switched out the integrated video with a GeForce mx4 440 pci, I can say this with confidence the PCI card is much, much faster then the "AGP" integrated intel graphics... ironically the model before that used an Ati 128 pro right on the motherboard. The use of Intel graphics was certainly a step back in that era. Thankfully that system at least as a PCI slot.
Have you tried cards on Pcie 16.x 3.0 since or at anytime ? As for pci slots far as i know the mini must be the one you call 1x i think it's now 2.0 as the ordinary PCI slots are 2.0 also now days eventually maybe all PCI will be upgraded to 3.0 (not mentioning the 16x which is already at 4.0)
I have a dual pentium III system with VIA chipset and AGP 4X (Universal AGP). However it's unstable with 4x mode and have to be in 2x mode to avoid crashes. So i wonder what is the fastest AGP card for 2x mode without too much bottleneck because of the lower bandwith?
At this time, yes. The development of PCIe is quite good at staying ahead of the requirements for single cards. It also comes down how much of the offered bandwith the card actually uses. Any multi-GPU setup that doesn't use an additional connector between the cards will most likely the best to test out the limitations.
I have a GT 520 16x card on the computer I built from a scrapped hp compaq dc7700 business computer... I can't really play the most modern stuff as I'm limited to 4GB of RAM and my CPU is a Pentium D 945 @ 3.4 Ghz... It does let me play older games though
This will become more relevant for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 and IO Board owners. It has a PCI-E 2.0 1X connector. It'll be Linux kernel drivers for armhf and aarch64 that'll be the problem.
I wonder if you can switch the heatsinks from one of the PCI-e variants of the GT520 to make the PCI into a low profile card and the PCI-e into a fanless card. I might buy the PCI-e card and try it. My mini ITX Atom D410 only has one PCI expansion slot.
Good, and very informative video, but do you can try overclock buses, its be a nice and budget try speedup those cards, especially agp versions (some can run with faster clock speeds) ?
As noted at the end of the video, I won't be addressing PCI Express bandwidth performance any more than I have in this video. For information on that, I suggest looking at other tech channels focusing on modern hardware.
You shown average FPS and benchmark scores but what about the real problem with PCI what about the 1% and .1% lows and stutter that can't necessarily be represent in a benchmark score? Especially in older systems with no AGP or PCIe where it's likely that the GPU will have to share the PCI bus with other major I/O devices in the machine like the HDD controller.
Now thats an i7 overclock... 3.5Ghz to 4.5Ghz. Some serious water-cooling? The best I've every done was this X4 860k from 3.7Ghz to 4.3Ghz with just a cheap DEEPCOOL Ice Blade Mini CPU Fan (with 2x 80mm fans.)
I have a similar awesome OC, I have a Xeon W3680 (basically a I7 980X) and it's stock is 3.33Ghz I managed a 4.54Ghz OC with a H110i GT and temps of only 75max. With that OC I benchmark similar to Ryzen 5 1600
4.5 GHz is not that spectacular on SandyBridge. Some talkied about like >80% of chips would to that. The E8600 on 4.3 is rather nice on the other hand. Got my E8400 only to 4.2 while staying under 1.4v. Currently have a X5460 in that machine running on 4.1 /w 1.396v
this leads me to think that maybe the 520 just isn't a very fast card , lol. obviously. But it does have me wondering how well a faster pci-e card will do given a pci bus. one thing i will say , you have to consider........ even though these cards have the same specs / product number / company....... we have no idea how efficient the tech is between the card and the bus. for all we know it's terribly inefficient during conversion from pci-e down to pci. You also have to consider , pci , is lower wattage than pci-e x16. so how well would a pci version of a high end card do considering it would have auxilerly power connectors. I'm gonna start working on this soon becuase i want to know
If you want to see Ultra high end cards on PCIe 1x vs 16x, let me know. I've got a few monsters (and a Titan coming). Mostly just because I'm curious and I ask a lot of "what if?" questions. I could also test on my old ATI Fire-GL V8650, but I'm afraid that might burn the riser up, LOL, talk about jet engine sounds too, the thing is louder than my 1970's push mower!
Yeah there are definitely limits with power which is why you only ever see these low profile budget cards on PCI. In this case I don't think it's a factor to performance with this lowend chip. I do wonder myself how efficient the PLX bridge chip really is.
Can always give an additional power plug on the card. In the past I've seen floppy and Molex connectors being used on AGP cards, so there is a way to give a PCI card more juice. It will still be drastically limited by the bus.
I don't think that's possible, since there are no MBs with full support of PCIe x16 and AGP x8 MBs (Dual SIS boards have bad performance). However from what I gather, there woudn't be much of a diffrence (if both versions are clocked te same).
Today it's not that much difference... this is due the low bandwitch x1 PCIe gen. 1 wich is double PCI 32 bits... Gen 2 is double Gen 1... Gen 3 is double Gen 2... Still x16 PCIe ver.3 is lot of unused bandwich for any gaming graphics card... That's why SLI/CrossFire works, couse with x4 PCIe ver. 2 you got all the performance you need... uj
I think you should buy (or at least think about getting) a LGA 1366 MB and Xeon HexCore CPU, so that you could get best PCI-e 2.0 performance (with SLI/CorssFire), and without the need of using UEFI BIOS of Sandy Bridge platform [I think that's the cause of GT 520 PCI boot problem] or an inconvience of dismantling your main rig. PS. I also have that NZXT Tempest case with window in my main rig :D
See, buddy what you're doing wrong here is that the PCI card was made for systems that don't have PCIe or AGP. Compare the GT 520 PCI to something like Intel 845G or an ATi Radeon 7200 PCI and tell me if you think it's a worthy upgrade!
wait, this shitty card gets bottlenecked by pci-e 1x? that's weird. doom 2016 is playable on my 1070 using a 1x slot riser (yep, for mining ethereum). obviously crippled performance, but it still manages to run ultra settings 2560x1080 at 40+ fps.
doesn't the gt 710 also have a pci slot variant? so wouldn't the gt 710 be the fastest pci slot card?
To my knowledge, it does not. It has 8x PCIe variants which are easy to mistake for PCI at first glance.
PixelPipes may I send you a link to one I think its PCI but I want your opinion.
Sure!
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2F84BC9276
is this pci or something else?
That's 8x PCI Express. One way to tell, besides the product spec list, is by that little extra piece sticking out just before the connector. Notice here there are no extra pieces sticking out on this PCI card. There are also two notches cut out in a modern PCI edge connector.
www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/zt-50610-10l_image3_1.jpg
I feel like I am seeing the infancy of a future giant channel. There are no channels doing the "I wonder how x" tech investigating with such high quality videos. It is amazing to see how much you know and how competently you are able to get the information across while being entertaining. You are going to go far with this kind of work!
+Turbo Tutorials Wow thank you very much!
Agreed! :) This channel is going places for sure.
This.
I have sunk nearly my whole day re-watching nearly your entire channel all over again. Love it.
The GT520 was the first GPU I ever bought with my own money back in 2011. For someone who only played Minecraft and TF2 on a Pentium E2160 on a 720p display, it served me well enough for the better part of 4 years.
Long live my GTX970 SLI
RUclips made me dig so hard for this video, and it was EXACTLY what I was looking for! Thank you for doing some real world testing of PCI bus graphics cards!
Great videos, good that someone is showing how far we've come, 15 years ago I had a PCI 9200SE as it was all I could afford (and PC only had PCI slot), always wondered how much extra I got now from my 1060! I'll see if I have any of the old hardware and contact you to see if you want it.
nVidia had an interesting way of increasing performance on the low bandwidth systems around the later part of the ION days. When Intel went to the SoC style Atom chipset, nVidia still offered a 1x embedded gpu for those netbooks, however they also had a software compression option built into the drivers for it. And this provided a very light compression to interface bandwidth, however in some circumstances it was a very large increase in performance.
This was only ever intended to be usable on those atom platforms, however it is possible to enable this mode on other configurations. And it is able to get the PCI interface to actually out perform the 1x interface (without compression) in nearly all situations. It is especially useful on more powerful systems that have the cpu power to implement the compression. Whereas the Atom had limited performance to do so.
You have surprisingly good production values for such a tiny channel !
Great stuff :) I look forward to the new videos.
Informative video, Good to see that there are still new people coming into the technology area on youtube, best of luck to you and your channel
Man, this channel is going places! :) Keep up the excellent work!
+Levi Guiney Thanks!
You are quite welcome! :)
I like the potential this channel has. subbed
I work with arcade games, and I keep a few of these PCI cards around to use on games where the motherboard graphics have gone out. They tend to work well, as long as the motherboard supports the card drivers. Also used a few with motherboards that have no onboard graphics at all, mainly server boards. Not gonna get a great gaming experience, but they have been lifesavers for old boards that need to be serviced and repaired.
Judging by the quality of content on this channel I thought I was looking at a RUclipsr with more than 20 times the amount of subscribers than this channel actually has.
My god I wish I had your channel’s level of growth, at this rate you’ll pass me in a week or two at most. Congrats man.
Thanks!
I know right? I just hopped on the PixelPipes train a little over a week ago and the channel was sitting at ~1K subs. And I see this channel just continuing to grow because there are seriously interesting videos, and the video "The Fastest Graphics Card on a PCI Bus" is actually hella useful for me since I'm in the market for a low-pro PCI card.
pattern spotted.
games with a lot of asset streaming will stress the bus a lot more and kill performance on the pci card.
games with very demanding shaders won't care as much, as the code being passed for the card to process isn't large and the complex operations are all done within the card itself, with no need of going through the bus.
makes sense.
btw, subscribed. love this kind of video.
+GraveUypo Yes. For instance in 3DMark03 Mother Nature test, framerate is actually quite fast just looking at the water (shader intense), but dives when a lot of geometry is on screen and animating (swaying trees/grass) which requires frequent updates from the CPU.
Tanks for pointing out the tape topic.
Often overlooked. Also there are open 1x and 4x slots that will fit 16x cards just fine.
I guess I found my new favorite tech channel :)
9:20 cut little of the plastic form the slot, not the video card! I did this on my server mother board to fit 16x video in to 8x slot
can you do a fastest agp video card
I really want to! Don't have the necessary hardware as of yet.
YEA! i'm was too young to be into computer building when AGP was still a thing. in the mean time can you make a video explaining agp x2,x4,x8 and agp pro for people like me who are confused as pcie has been the only thing i've had too work with.
It will probably be the Radeon HD 3850 AGP, though there's a newer (but slower) AGP card: the Radeon HD 4650 AGP.
I got a Radeon HD 3850 AGP in a VisionTek mystery box. Sadly, I have no systems with AGP slots, but I'd love to try it out someday.
I have one myself (Sapphire HD 3850), kicks ass with Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA & Athlon 64 X2 6000+. :P
Make your fonts larger please. Its micro on my phone
I love this channel!!!
Guessing its a bit down too how much power it can use as well in each respective port as it might be different clock speeds or ram types.
Also how about checking how much you can overclock as well on pci-e 16x as the card has 75w from the slot there you should be able to get a bit extra performance out of it & the card should only pull 29w in load on the pci-e version.
Which might open up a bit on people looking at cheap silent options for an older system that just needs a graphics card for a certain era of games + some visual goodies such as anti aliasing & texture filtering.
What kind of wattage does the PCI Slot supply? i assume the 520 does not take external power, and i know the pcie e slot can supply something up to 75w.
I kinda hope you will dig the pci/AGP/PCIe video idea out of the scrap bin at some point in the future. Maybe there is a beefier card that supports all 3? Or maybe you could delve into AGP 2x, 4x, 8x, PCIe 1x, 4x, etc and see where things level off for each interface. I saw someone request a video detailing AGP and the 2x, 4x, etc. I would like to see a vid on that too.
I have seen some motherboards with open end 1x sockets, these allow a full 16x card to be plugged straight in, they are rare but do exist
You don't actually need to cut the GPU, instead you make a small notch on the right side of the motherboard connector with a dremel (HP does this with some boards, I saw it on a C2D system for the 4x slot. It has a small notch on the right side cut out so any size GPU can fit).
Yeah good idea
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Not really related to the topic of this video but I'm amazed by the performance gap from the Ti 4600 and the 9800 pro, I own a Ti 4400 and a 9800xt, ti4400 is in my slot 1 p3 rig, and the 9800xt I have installed in a p4 3ghz windows 98 project at the moment
And both are way, way faster than the FX 5200 :D
I have two PCIe 1x slots and I have no idea what to do with them. I have WiFi on Ethernet so I won’t need a wireless connection. Do you have any recommendations?
I have an old Optiplex gx110 that I run OS/2 on, I switched out the integrated video with a GeForce mx4 440 pci, I can say this with confidence the PCI card is much, much faster then the "AGP" integrated intel graphics... ironically the model before that used an Ati 128 pro right on the motherboard. The use of Intel graphics was certainly a step back in that era. Thankfully that system at least as a PCI slot.
Have you tried cards on Pcie 16.x 3.0 since or at anytime ? As for pci slots far as i know the mini must be the one you call 1x i think it's now 2.0 as the ordinary PCI slots are 2.0 also now days eventually maybe all PCI will be upgraded to 3.0 (not mentioning the 16x which is already at 4.0)
I have a dual pentium III system with VIA chipset and AGP 4X (Universal AGP). However it's unstable with 4x mode and have to be in 2x mode to avoid crashes. So i wonder what is the fastest AGP card for 2x mode without too much bottleneck because of the lower bandwith?
Man I love the look of the Zotac cards.
i believe even high end modern cards have trouble filling the pcie 3.0x16 using up to an 8x bandwith.
At this time, yes. The development of PCIe is quite good at staying ahead of the requirements for single cards.
It also comes down how much of the offered bandwith the card actually uses. Any multi-GPU setup that doesn't use an additional connector between the cards will most likely the best to test out the limitations.
You should really show some gameplay while showing us numbers because it's a tad boring in my opinion :/ Cool video and awesome concept nonetheless!
Quality video, but I feel that the music in the video is a bit too loud compared to your voice.
Please song at 7:53 ?
I have a GT 520 16x card on the computer I built from a scrapped hp compaq dc7700 business computer... I can't really play the most modern stuff as I'm limited to 4GB of RAM and my CPU is a Pentium D 945 @ 3.4 Ghz... It does let me play older games though
This will become more relevant for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 and IO Board owners. It has a PCI-E 2.0 1X connector.
It'll be Linux kernel drivers for armhf and aarch64 that'll be the problem.
I wonder if you can switch the heatsinks from one of the PCI-e variants of the GT520 to make the PCI into a low profile card and the PCI-e into a fanless card. I might buy the PCI-e card and try it. My mini ITX Atom D410 only has one PCI expansion slot.
Can you run Crysis on PCI ?
Next time you should try thunderbolt 2 vs thunderbolt 3 external GPU encousers!
PCI gaming
When you truly hate yourself.
Good, and very informative video, but do you can try overclock buses, its be a nice and budget try speedup those cards, especially agp versions (some can run with faster clock speeds) ?
I paused another video to play this one.
So what about pci-e 4x or 8x? and, of course, comparison between pci-e 1/2/3 generations
As noted at the end of the video, I won't be addressing PCI Express bandwidth performance any more than I have in this video. For information on that, I suggest looking at other tech channels focusing on modern hardware.
Waitaminute!!! AGP was merely doubling? I feel ripped off now!
Can you do 8x vs 16x PCI-e?
You shown average FPS and benchmark scores but what about the real problem with PCI what about the 1% and .1% lows and stutter that can't necessarily be represent in a benchmark score? Especially in older systems with no AGP or PCIe where it's likely that the GPU will have to share the PCI bus with other major I/O devices in the machine like the HDD controller.
+Brandon Upchurch I don't disagree with you! Thanks for the feedback!
Next: ISA vs PCI vs AGP vs PCI-e X1 vs PCI-e X4 vs PCI-e X16
Now thats an i7 overclock... 3.5Ghz to 4.5Ghz. Some serious water-cooling? The best I've every done was this X4 860k from 3.7Ghz to 4.3Ghz with just a cheap DEEPCOOL Ice Blade Mini CPU Fan (with 2x 80mm fans.)
+Jason Hicks Nah just a good chip. Using a Corsair Hyper 212X. Sandy Bridge was always phenomenal at overclocking, it's really probably just average.
I have a similar awesome OC, I have a Xeon W3680 (basically a I7 980X) and it's stock is 3.33Ghz I managed a 4.54Ghz OC with a H110i GT and temps of only 75max. With that OC I benchmark similar to Ryzen 5 1600
4.5 GHz is not that spectacular on SandyBridge. Some talkied about like >80% of chips would to that.
The E8600 on 4.3 is rather nice on the other hand. Got my E8400 only to 4.2 while staying under 1.4v. Currently have a X5460 in that machine running on 4.1 /w 1.396v
this leads me to think that maybe the 520 just isn't a very fast card , lol. obviously. But it does have me wondering how well a faster pci-e card will do given a pci bus.
one thing i will say , you have to consider........ even though these cards have the same specs / product number / company....... we have no idea how efficient the tech is between the card and the bus. for all we know it's terribly inefficient during conversion from pci-e down to pci.
You also have to consider , pci , is lower wattage than pci-e x16. so how well would a pci version of a high end card do considering it would have auxilerly power connectors. I'm gonna start working on this soon becuase i want to know
If you want to see Ultra high end cards on PCIe 1x vs 16x, let me know. I've got a few monsters (and a Titan coming). Mostly just because I'm curious and I ask a lot of "what if?" questions. I could also test on my old ATI Fire-GL V8650, but I'm afraid that might burn the riser up, LOL, talk about jet engine sounds too, the thing is louder than my 1970's push mower!
Yeah there are definitely limits with power which is why you only ever see these low profile budget cards on PCI. In this case I don't think it's a factor to performance with this lowend chip. I do wonder myself how efficient the PLX bridge chip really is.
Can always give an additional power plug on the card.
In the past I've seen floppy and Molex connectors being used on AGP cards, so there is a way to give a PCI card more juice. It will still be drastically limited by the bus.
Do agp vs pcie using a 3650 or 4650 since they are direct x 10.
Android the first card I ever owned was an agp hd3650, it could barely run tf2 on low :(
Visiontek 4 lyf
I don't think that's possible, since there are no MBs with full support of PCIe x16 and AGP x8 MBs (Dual SIS boards have bad performance).
However from what I gather, there woudn't be much of a diffrence (if both versions are clocked te same).
Do a best AGP card please !!!
Interesting, try fitting x16 card by modifying the 1x slot by putting a slit in it.
It only works if there are no caps/ICs/heatsinks, directly on the right of the x1 slot.
Today it's not that much difference... this is due the low bandwitch x1 PCIe gen. 1 wich is double PCI 32 bits... Gen 2 is double Gen 1... Gen 3 is double Gen 2... Still x16 PCIe ver.3 is lot of unused bandwich for any gaming graphics card... That's why SLI/CrossFire works, couse with x4 PCIe ver. 2 you got all the performance you need... uj
But can it run Crys................................ Bit of an eye opener for PCI ain't it?
This is obscure enough to get a sub. :D
I think you should buy (or at least think about getting) a LGA 1366 MB and Xeon HexCore CPU, so that you could get best PCI-e 2.0 performance (with SLI/CorssFire), and without the need of using UEFI BIOS of Sandy Bridge platform [I think that's the cause of GT 520 PCI boot problem] or an inconvience of dismantling your main rig.
PS. I also have that NZXT Tempest case with window in my main rig :D
See, buddy what you're doing wrong here is that the PCI card was made for systems that don't have PCIe or AGP.
Compare the GT 520 PCI to something like Intel 845G or an ATi Radeon 7200 PCI and tell me if you think it's a worthy upgrade!
So they could make GT 520 on AGP, so bad that AGP is dead.
by now everyone should understand why pci won`t benefit from a 1080 ti
wait, this shitty card gets bottlenecked by pci-e 1x?
that's weird. doom 2016 is playable on my 1070 using a 1x slot riser (yep, for mining ethereum). obviously crippled performance, but it still manages to run ultra settings 2560x1080 at 40+ fps.
there is an GT 710 with 192 CUDA Cores and PCI-E 1x... it's better! D:
wtf you could get smth way better than my moms 8x AGP geforce 4 mx440? And it's PCI? lool
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