Hi there, I'm Oriol the dev of the game. Sorry about the bug, all moves should've been bishop moves, it'll be fixed by release (Feb 27th). I'm also working on extra AI difficulty, but that may come in a patch after release. Thanks again for playing my game Tyler! :D
@@9volt65 -- No way any form of stockfish is used here. Even at the highest AI difficulty the AI was making really weak moves. I guess it could be stockfish but forced to make junk moves occasionally, but that feels bad.
Chess roguelikes are possibly the nerdiest creations on this planet and I absolutely love them. Unfortunately I’m terrible at chess and can’t imagine I’d do much better at even more complicated versions of the game
I've played Chesscraft and CEO (Chess Evolved Online). Having an uncapturable piece that can capture other pieces is beyond broken. Probably worth around 28 points, if it can even be evaluated that way. Also, if this game implemented the Fairy Stockfish chess engine, at max depth, you would lose. Be careful what you wish for.
If you're lucky enough, surround your king with them and nothing can checkmate you. Since Kings and Generals are the only pieces that can kill an Immortal, they can bypass your barrier, but since neither of you can move into check without losing, that isn't a good move so you can just sit back and relax while the enemy can't do anything (you need at least one other piece so you can attack).
with the difficulty thing at the end, its not like stockfish where it knows the best move at any possible time up to like 20 moves into the future. i think the dev just made an ai that thinks just a couple moves into the future since it isnt THAT smart tbh. at times it did make some actually really good plays, but obviously sometimes it blundered. hm, maybe thats why it isnt an engine and ai instead?
Maybe I'm not fully understanding the rules or I'm just missing something, but I believe that Tyler could've just ended the match at 9:55 with his Blade Dancer. Using the top left of the board as the origin, if he'd moved through the portal and taken the Pegasus at F4, then the Rook at F2, the Bishop at D2, then the General/King at F1, that would've been game right then. Edit: After reviewing the description of the Blade Dancer, it moves by "jumping," so maybe it can't use portals. If so, that's kinda dumb, but probably done that way specifically to not make that piece too OP.
Yeah neither of them should be able to capture the king imo, except maybe if blade dancer does it as its first move. That and/or limit blade dancer to two moves. Edit: also blade dancer's ability should be nullified under bottles. If it's supposed to move like a rook, it shouldn't get extra moves.
@@Subt0nix Blade dancer absolutely deserves a nerf even if bottles didn't exist. You can fork any two pieces and most of the time you can keep chaining from there until you capture the king, or at least wipe several pieces of the board in one turn. And even if your chain fails you get to retreat for free. It's by far the most powerful piece in the game right now.
Gotta say that any Bottle item with the Portal Mage is pretty broken. The opponent’s King/General doesn't see the Portal Mage as a threat, but by using a bottle you can immediately take the King/General out.
Blade dancer works with rocks! If you ever have a blade dancer and have the opportunity to get the shovel which places rocks you can sometimes win in 1 or 2 turns and sometimes you get a lot of pieces because of the combo
21:42 turns out you can just edit the config file and the game doesn't care, currently at 200% it seems to be slightly *worse* than 100%, and i can confirm that at 4472% is literally just makes random moves
at 3:58, while yes the pegasus rider can attack those pieces, the editing is inaccurate in properly explaining how the pegasus rider moves. The king is attacked by 2 moves of down 2 left 1. Your depiction of how the pegasus is attacking the agent + is accurate.
In the marsh of madness level 6 you could have used rook in the bottle on immortal and move to the square right in front of tabetha, and its defended by agent +, meaning you would have won on move 2
I absolutely HATE how this game seems allergic to the word "Orthogonal", every other part of this game seems so good, but it also seems to forget that a perfectly good counterpart to diagonal already exists. 10/11
Hi there, I'm Oriol the dev of the game. Sorry about the bug, all moves should've been bishop moves, it'll be fixed by release (Feb 27th). I'm also working on extra AI difficulty, but that may come in a patch after release. Thanks again for playing my game Tyler! :D
Ayyy it seems like an awesome game, fantastic job!!
Ah so that *was* a bug. Game looks cool, excited for it to come out next week!
Will you add PVP?
@@matko8038 I plan on adding a practice mode than can be used for local PvP
Will it be released on mobile???
Can't wait until people make chess engines for this game so you can see how your best move was actually to bongcloud into blade dancer.
mittens in this game lol
Someone could do it today since Fairy Stockfish exists, but not sure how to use it.
Fairy stockfish is a thing
Game already (probably) uses Fairy Stockfish. It’s open source and free. No reason *not* to.
@@9volt65 -- No way any form of stockfish is used here. Even at the highest AI difficulty the AI was making really weak moves.
I guess it could be stockfish but forced to make junk moves occasionally, but that feels bad.
I love that “rook” has become a reoccurring joke.
So then Tyler sacrifices THE ROOOOOOOK
and he sacrificed.... THE "rook"-KKKKKKKK
_Tyler and Levy mashup_
rookurring joke
I was worried when it was not present in the previous video but fortunately it's back
@@jakistam1000id it take some time to *piece* that joke together? Pretty good *move* gotta say
I didn’t know chess rougelikes were such an appealing concept to my brain. They just cause neuron activation
Right? It's especially wild since I'm terrible at chess
If you don’t mind adding deckbuilding, there’s one on Opera GX’s games service called Advise The King, surprisingly fun
Chess roguelikes are possibly the nerdiest creations on this planet and I absolutely love them. Unfortunately I’m terrible at chess and can’t imagine I’d do much better at even more complicated versions of the game
The only other chess roguelike I can think of is pawnbarian. I wonder how many there actually are out there.
@@Rogeryoo There's also "Shotgun king" which Aliensrock played on his channel
19:15 I find it funny that he forgot the immortal was immortal in the immortal build episode
The immortal can be taken by a king/general but the king/general can't take it if it is protected.
@@coltonwarren9478 so the only reason you should lose Immortals is from f**king up?
@@coltonwarren9478 he asked why the AI didnt take the immortal with the knight. but the immortal is immortal
@@coltonwarren9478 Yeah, this was about an immortal being captured by a knight
This is rapidly becoming my favourite series on the channel
The interaction between Assassin/Blade Dancer and Piece in a Bottle seems weird and under-defined, definitely questionable.
Dev has said it's a bug, all moves were supposed to be bishop moves in that last battle.
You know the weirdest thing, mounded king isn't mentioned, so it can be assumed they can't kill the immortal.
Pretty sure they’re counted under King
@@therealchaosguy general is a king upgrade too and it's specifically mentioned
@@billyoneshot3337 isn't general a enemy's king?
@@billyoneshot3337 Idk then, maybe because Mounted King has “king” in its name?
A general is any controlling unit on the board so counts anything including all king upgrades. Its phrasing is used in several chess games.
I don't understand why these videos get less viewership they're so engaging??
I'm so glad you're doing a video on this piece, you took it in one of your previous runs but sacrificed it for a manticore.
That classic Age of Empires edit at 8:57 was pretty nice.
oh god i just realized how many times he's gonna say the words "my immortal" in this video
so much psychic damage
I hate that phrase. I read the first 2 paragraphs of that fic and was out of there. To this day i am still traumatized by that story.
I forced myself to read it all. Probably my biggest regret in life
I forced myself to read it all. Probably my biggest regret in life
I've played Chesscraft and CEO (Chess Evolved Online). Having an uncapturable piece that can capture other pieces is beyond broken. Probably worth around 28 points, if it can even be evaluated that way.
Also, if this game implemented the Fairy Stockfish chess engine, at max depth, you would lose. Be careful what you wish for.
Now imagine if Stockfish played Ouroboros King.
20:55 looks like a bug. why would the 2nd move have bishop movement but not the 3rd? it doesn't make sense.
Props to the editors for highlighting the relevant items so us dumb folks can still be highly entertained by this video!!! 10/10
If you're lucky enough, surround your king with them and nothing can checkmate you. Since Kings and Generals are the only pieces that can kill an Immortal, they can bypass your barrier, but since neither of you can move into check without losing, that isn't a good move so you can just sit back and relax while the enemy can't do anything (you need at least one other piece so you can attack).
19:14 he cant take with the knight. it's immortal
If the ai was too good, I’m not sure it’d even be possible to win. Either way it should totally affect difficulty rating.
Absolutely masterful editing again! Adds so much to the video
16:29 The Black King: so anyways, I started taking.
As a great puppet chess master once said: When you get to the fork in the road, take it.
Thank you for the video Tyler and editors!
RETURN OF THE “ROOK”
with the difficulty thing at the end, its not like stockfish where it knows the best move at any possible time up to like 20 moves into the future. i think the dev just made an ai that thinks just a couple moves into the future since it isnt THAT smart tbh. at times it did make some actually really good plays, but obviously sometimes it blundered. hm, maybe thats why it isnt an engine and ai instead?
8:57 just this edit alone makes me want to see Tyler play Age of Empires 2 (either HD of definitive edition), which is where the edit came from
just wanna say that from my perspective the ai difficulty making their moves stronger is not a placebo and they played much better than before
"Lets advance the king"
10 seconds later
"you advanced the king, bold play"
I definitely hope this game gets more content updates, currently it seems cool but there's so much potential for more
Please continue the "rook" or "check" memes they are my favorite reoccurring joke in this series.
19:14 I thought the immortal could only get captured by the king?
generals can take it too
What game was the fottage on 08:56 from ?
Age of empires
Age of Empires II
looks like age of empires
Never saw this playthrough til now! Really cool game and nice plays!
14:18 that bomb move was nasty
Ahhh yes, why take a king when you can take a Lepper instead?
"rook" is actually so funny.
Maybe I'm not fully understanding the rules or I'm just missing something, but I believe that Tyler could've just ended the match at 9:55 with his Blade Dancer. Using the top left of the board as the origin, if he'd moved through the portal and taken the Pegasus at F4, then the Rook at F2, the Bishop at D2, then the General/King at F1, that would've been game right then.
Edit: After reviewing the description of the Blade Dancer, it moves by "jumping," so maybe it can't use portals. If so, that's kinda dumb, but probably done that way specifically to not make that piece too OP.
The immortal piece kinda looked like a cube to me.
1:31 What a ripoff. Immortal got killed by pointy sticks on flat board.
5:36 oh god DAMNIT!
_"_ Rook _"_
5:36 YYYEEEEESSSS!!! I WAS SO SAD WHHEN IT DIDN'T APPEAR LAST TIME, BUT WE BACK BABY!!!!!!
For next episode you should play a normal round then a round with lowest AI to see how easy it is.
I have to say blade dancer + bottles is kinda broken, I hope they nerf that a bit, otherwise you spend 300-400 gold and insta win the boss fights.
Yeah neither of them should be able to capture the king imo, except maybe if blade dancer does it as its first move. That and/or limit blade dancer to two moves.
Edit: also blade dancer's ability should be nullified under bottles. If it's supposed to move like a rook, it shouldn't get extra moves.
@@majickman or just make it unable to use bottles which is a significantly better option than nerfing a piece.
@@Subt0nix Blade dancer absolutely deserves a nerf even if bottles didn't exist. You can fork any two pieces and most of the time you can keep chaining from there until you capture the king, or at least wipe several pieces of the board in one turn. And even if your chain fails you get to retreat for free. It's by far the most powerful piece in the game right now.
0:35 That was in the game since the last video????
Thanks for the videos! I'm enjoying this series!
2:24 I absolutely can't believe you didn't put Zoolander meme there
Gotta say that any Bottle item with the Portal Mage is pretty broken.
The opponent’s King/General doesn't see the Portal Mage as a threat, but by using a bottle you can immediately take the King/General out.
19:15
He didn't even take with the knight?
Me: it's the immortal, they can't take with the knight, only kings can take it.
20:30 couldn't you just bishop in a bottle the bladedancer into the mage for an insta win?
Blade dancer works with rocks! If you ever have a blade dancer and have the opportunity to get the shovel which places rocks you can sometimes win in 1 or 2 turns and sometimes you get a lot of pieces because of the combo
Tyler, may I recommend rogue like deck building game Hellcard?
0:32 ITS THE MANTICORE FROM ANIMAL WELL TYLER
Fairy Stockfish would love this
12:00 “you fucked up by not taking my berserker”
14:23 also 15:17 too even 16:31 word and 17:00 b word
😱 the f word and s word and b too
Editor became so powerful they started backseating blunders, science has gone too far
“why he no take the immortal with the knight!!”
14:20 bro went super Arabian mode
little hint: when in battle on the top left is the money that if you checkmate the enemy general, if you reach low or even 0 gold might as well draw
If he were to draw, he wouldn't get the reward for the map destination either. You always want checkmate.
isn't 20:12 an instant win with bishop in a bottle on blade dancer?
No because for some reason bishop in a bottle affects *two* moves of blade dancer, not just the first one
An absolute banger Tyler! Kepp it up
Literally haven’t watched you in many, many months, but recently re-stumbled upon the Discord when it was well, appley…
21:42 turns out you can just edit the config file and the game doesn't care, currently at 200% it seems to be slightly *worse* than 100%, and i can confirm that at 4472% is literally just makes random moves
That Blade Dancer + Bottle cheese... incredible
do you heard about the bomb/Rock dancer (blade dancer strategy)
This series is the best
19:20 knight couldn’t take your immortal as it can only take with king
4:46 agent x/+ d7 forks
mounted king's really good because it can checkmate and take a normal king in a one v one.
at 3:58, while yes the pegasus rider can attack those pieces, the editing is inaccurate in properly explaining how the pegasus rider moves. The king is attacked by 2 moves of down 2 left 1. Your depiction of how the pegasus is attacking the agent + is accurate.
The bottles just seems to make a piece **able** to move like something else.
Did they buff the immortal? I swear it used to only move in a tiny plus shape
My brain has a hard enough time playing chess this would take a week or two to learn
Day 867 of telling Tyler that he never finished his minecraft series and that he should finish it.
Prob not
Day 827 of agreeing
@@da3peopleguys919 yeah we know
Still going :)
He'll do it at Day 1000.
In the marsh of madness level 6 you could have used rook in the bottle on immortal and move to the square right in front of tabetha, and its defended by agent +, meaning you would have won on move 2
I absolutely HATE how this game seems allergic to the word "Orthogonal", every other part of this game seems so good, but it also seems to forget that a perfectly good counterpart to diagonal already exists. 10/11
right i have been conditioned into hearing tyler say his agent + “rook” everytime he says rook
Well it seems Bishop/rook in a bottle + blade dancer/assassin is a bit broken xD
0:35 that is actually a thing, but apparently not in the version you are playing
It still shows up on the upgrade screens in his version at least.
Did you get an early copy of this unreleased game?
how do you get tabitha and the portals and bombs?
9:13 TAKE THE KING
how is the music on when its zero percent?
Back at it again with the *”rook”* plays
Moving again after taking a piece is such a bullshit power lol, without a cap it can go crazy
I miss the inscryption vids.
But! Since its been like a year, it should feel new again!
And have a good day!♥
Stockfish wants to play too.
How does tyler has access to the full game?
Once i had an assasin and a room in a bottle relic and straight up solloed eida lol
Immortal is neat but should probably be limited in how it can capture
“rook”
amazing chess two is looking great
This proves bottle + blade dancer is just cracked
Editors you are amazing
immortal+the artifact that kill the enemy that took your piece (firs tak)= truly immortal
Man I had to check if the speed was 2X.
It takes me ages to decide every move! This game is hard!
he went from btd6 to chess and i am absolutely enjoying it
can you set up an ouroboros king playlist?
9:11 editor so upset with that he skips the match
with the last battle he could have won with the bishop in a bottle: use it on the blade dancer to kill portal mage and then the king
I want to see 2 stockfishes play this game