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You are right to point out that there is something a bit strange with the XBox Series X and it's Black Levels - it does that in other modes too - like when using VRR. But I think it's not so bad that a bit of fiddling with your TV setting won't mostly compensate for it. For someone like me who isn't going out and buying racks and racks of discs it's perfectly adequate I feel.
Really depends on your collection imo. If you have a few hundred 4k discs then the relative value of the dedicated player is a lot better than if you only have a few dozen.
@@roflryan7464 are there even that many 4K blu-rays available? I know it’s improved considerably in recent years, but several hundred still seems like a stretch.
I think the Xbox does an amazing job competing against one of the best 4k dedicated players around. With updates the Xbox could get even better. I’m perfectly happy with the capabilities of the Xbox, impressive. I’d like to see how well it does upscaling 1080p blu ray discs.
I recently tested out my Ice Age 3 Blu-ray Disc on the series x on a 4K display. (I got the Blu-ray back in like 2013 so I believe it’s 1080p) Needless to say the movie looked really good on the 4K tv. It honestly looked like it could be 4K itself
@@Green_Stache_Productions the Xbox always had a good upscaling technique, the HD DVD add-on for the 360 even improved the image on regular DVD movies.
You could get the same image output as the standalone player on Xbox by simple creating a custom tv profile and calibrating. Good comparisons though. Always refreshing to see someone creating comparisons like this. Kudos sir.
But he's way to late bringing this out xbox have been using a 4k player since the one x and one s ..and its made by Samsung plus its a fantastic player to be fair
If you're ok with less than ideal blu-ray playback then the console is fine. If you want the best possible image you can get then you want a dedicated blu-ray player. Someone who is watching on a Vizio, TCL, or Hisense isn't going to notice a difference. Someone who is watching on a high end OLED very well could. There are other things a dedicated blu-ray player can do that a console can't as well, like play SACD, DVD-A, video and audio files from USB, etc. It all comes down to what you expect to get from the player and what it's worth to you. Same reason Microsoft is selling an XSS as well as an XSX, not everyone needs/wants the top of the line and that's perfectly fine.
@@TheGreatMunky blu Ray is 30 fps and 4k is 60 to 120 fps ...the xbox one x 4k blu ray player is made by Samsung its absolutely brilliant and I see no difference on the xbox 4k played or my LG 4k player...if anything the xbox is better than my 4k player ..it gives me better and smoother picture ..so your talking shite
@@darrenhayes7786 I can't speak for LG players as I've never had one, but I have had a few Sony players and have had great luck with them. The drive in the Xbox may be made by Samsung but the playback depends entirely on the Xbox blu-ray app. I'm not sure if they've changed it or not but on the original Xbox One console I own the audio output was inferior to a standalone player. Not sure what 30, 60, and 120fps has to do with anything. What tv are you watching on? Just watching this video I could see a difference between the two players. On an OLED there's a big difference between near-black and black. If the Xbox player raises the black level then that would ruin the true-black of an OLED. Like I said though, if the Xbox player is good enough for you then that's fine. I'm not trying to say I'm better than you because I want a standalone player. I wish I wasn't as picky in regards to picture and audio quality, it would save me a ton of money.
@@TheGreatMunky im using LG 65 inch qled dolby vision with nanocell tech ..it plays my console at 120hz in full 4k thats full 60fps on the XBX and I cab tell you that the xbox plays 4k dvds better than the original as the original xbox one had a blue Ray player the xbox one X has a 4k uhd blu Ray player lol its not ps4 pro with standard blu Ray lol
FYI when you toggle the two images you changed the background color light. In doing so you affected the way our eyes see the image and how our brains interpret the image and its color. Great vid. not complaining
@@ThaVillaMan I found myself trying to block the background color with my hands so I could focus more on the differences in the picture image. For me personally my eyes had a hard time noticing the image differences everytime the background color changed. Great video though and keep up the great work!
@@ThaVillaMan The colors and light in out environments change the way we see other colors in our environment. Different types of light let off different colors of light. Thus changing how we perceive our world. It is why different type of exposure in film is used. There is way to much to cover in a comment on a video. Look up Color Temperature in lighting, for starter. Take it from there. Think about how your eyes a ust walking from outside in doors. It takes a few seconds for your eyes to see the world correctly. But it is really just your brain reimaging what we see.
I had the exact same thought but figured I'd be alone in this... Good to see I'm not crazy! I suspected mr villaman was making them different colors as a way to label them which is cool but the way the colors surrounding an image affect its perception is profound. This is why I'm not a fan of entertainment center bias lighting in general; it's neat in theory but its effect can be oddly too influential over the perceived temperature of the image. Great video nonetheless!
Theoretically the 2 devices should reproduce the identical images if the decoding and rendering is correctly implemented without post processing, Chroma upscaling and such.
This time in life, you need eyes of an eagle to see differents between all those things. The most Its al about tv settings.And it doesn’t make the movie any better with this tiny tiny tiny black black shadow with shadow differents???
@@keithkool8308 The contrast difference the from blackness level makes every thing pop more on the Panasonic player not just shadow details but the whole picture. But you are right there will be many other factors playing into bigger difference from settings and tvs. But for people who buy top tvs and calibrate them and use blurays for watching movies that difference is enough for not using the series X as a primary source of watching. Or at least that's how I feel about it 🦅☺️
Very informative... I use my Series X as a game console and UHD Blu-ray player. No complaints, although I haven't been watching any movies lately.. too many games to play
@@airnhere. I have AC Valhalla and beat it, Watch Dogs Legion, Cyberpunk 2077 that are the newest... I actually really like Cyberpunk. I haven’t had the issues that others are reporting and the story is really great. Lots to see and explore.
@@flystevejobs Yeah, cyberpunk is a really good game, that was just too ambitious to run well on last gen games. If CD Projekt Red had been honest and upfront about that there wouldn't have been this whole backlash. Maybe a small amount from idiots, but not all this.
90% of people won't be able to tell the difference, and if you have to have a screen to tell the difference side by side then it doesn't matter. Also it's hard to have them both compete when for the Xbox the blueray function is not its primary purpose vs the blueray player which is build for that purpose only. Great video man I like your channel keep them videos coming
Seems like there is a miniscule improvement with a standalone player. The type of thing no human being would notice (or care about) unless they review them for a living.
There’s an entire sector of the headphone market targeted exclusively at people wanting the best sound quality. They buy so much stuff for what to us seems a minuscule improvement. So I’d reckon the same is true for video quality. Still if this is your reaction to this video, then it wasn’t made for you.
@@femboyfoxfurry2603 I'm actually a headphone collector, haha. So I'm very well aware. My whole point is that most people don't care and shouldn't bother. I might, they probably won't.
@@rsolsjo ah sorry. I just assumed you didn’t realize based off the other comments in this comment section. They act as if this channel isn’t for enthusiasts lol
If it's addressed though then there would be no need for dedicated 4K Blu-ray players. It's all about the $$$. These companies could do more for the money, but if they did how would they make more money on upgrades and better versions of the same hardware?
@@tb1235 erm, Microsoft isn't making a dvd player, it's making a console 😂. The raised blacks issue is that, a bug/ issue. There isn't any money in it for Microsoft, if anything they would be happier not putting a disk drive in the console at all. That disk drive is for games, and happens to also be a 4k blueray player, it's an added bonus not really something that Microsoft cares about having.
I presume you set the HDMI Black Level on the Xbox to PC Mode, and the same on the LG? If you didn’t, then you are likely operating 240 levels for RGB rather than 256 hence the difference.
@@ThaVillaMan I'm still a amateur to the home theater community. Got my 1st OLED TV this year (nothing special, just 55" B9) and a LG SN7Y Dolby Atmos soundbar (I'm going to replace it with a dedicated Atmos system later) with the rear speakers 😁
@@Mike_v_E hey...I don't mind build quality as long as it performs well. Look at the Xbox Series X...as someone whose had every Xbox since the 360 Arcade...hate the design of the Series X...for looks alone I prefer the PS5. In dark it's basically invisible...in my room anyway 😊
@@newandroid14 build quality and design is something different. Build quality is objective and design is subjective. You may not like the Series X’ design, but the build quality is insanely good
This is like an eye exam. "One or two?....ummm" 😂 I cant tell a difference. Great review. Ver professional. I subscribed to support your channel. Best wishes. Stay blessed 🙏
I initially upgraded to 4K bluray with the XBOX One X at launch in 2017 (I'd had a 4K LG LED TV and PS4 Pro for a year prior). My initial thought was it will be great, 2 for 1 but found the One X player to have a washed out image with poor HDR regardless of how I adjusted the settings (gaming was fine though). As a result I bought an LG UBK80 player as I'd changed TVs to a Samsung QLED (didn't originally go for an OLED because I was worried about burn in) and because Samsung don't support Dolby Vision didn't need the UBK90. I recently upgraded my whole bedroom AV set up due to the new consoles to a 55" LG OLED CX6LA TV (supports 4K / 120Hz with HDMI 2.1 and VRR), Sony UBP-X800M2 4K BR player, PS5 and XBOX Series X. Tried the XSX BR player app and still found it to be washed out plus the app currently doesn't support Dolby Vision for movie playback although the console does supports it for gaming. I suppose a firmware update will fix it eventually but I really like Dolby Vision.
Got both the UB820 and the Series X myself. As a movie entusiast, and collector of 4k discs, the Xbox simply lack too many features and settings to be a fully dedicated player, IMO. Love the Xbox though, but I really bought it exclusively for gaming. The Panasonic player is waay to slow to navigate though, but that picture and sound quality more than makes up for it for me, when used with a calibrated Panasonic OLED. I do think the vast majority however, even a lot of movie enthusiasts will be satisfied with the Xbox as their only player. It really is a great piece of tech.
Players really affect the sound.??? I have a q950a 1800 dolllar samsung surround sound soundbar system. I heard that they dont. Can you really hear better sound on stand alone 4k player vs the series x???
I appreciate your videos: good detailed info that looks to have research behind it. So that you know: there’s already a fix for the black level issue. It’s currently in the Insider program (Xbox beta firmware test program). I have 2 Xboxes and one is signed up to the insider program. I suspect it will rolled out to the masses in a few weeks. Keep up the good work.
Just my recent update and experience. So I've always played UHD disks on an X One, and now an X Series. I just got the UB820 a couple days ago, and these comparison videos don't do it justice. Having played both Dolby Vision and regular HDR10 movies on the UB820, there's a big difference/upgrade compared to the Xbox UHD player. I highly recommend those who can, to purchase a dedicated UHD player. I chose the Panasonic UB820 because it's regarded as one of the best players out there, and because it auto switches to Dolby Vision display.
Since the Xbox Series X got lots of updates and fixed the black levels. Would you be willing to do an updated review? Soon the 4k player will support Dolby Vision. This will be a new device for lots this year and the Xbox is way different now.
I love the Xbox SX don’t get me wrong BUT!! They definitely need to update the Blu-ray app because often the image will turn black and you can only hear the audio specially when playing 4K movies (who else has this problem)?
I've got the Xbox Series X, but there was something not quite right with the 4K DVD movies, so I bought the Panasonic PD-U820 and watched Maleficent 1 and 2. The section going over the forest at the beginning the movie on the Panasonic was nice a smooth where on the XSX had a stuttering effect and with Dolby Vision on 2 Dolby vision definitely helped bring some pop into the movie, like that colourful walk in the city in Alita ( great movie 🙂)
I have a Panasonic Ub9000 and against my other players and consoles the biggest difference is ability to tweak settings and watching poor quality disc. It does an outstanding job improving videos that weren't great transfers.
No comparison the ps5 requires you to mess with settings if you want the best of both worlds. Gaming and hometheater also tmit doesn't easily send atmos due to Sony wanting to push their 3d sound engine.
@@jukeplays7572 so he shouldn't do a video on this, because? This is also completely incorrect atmos is supported while playing blueray videos. And video and audio settings for gaming and movie watching are separate. Dont spread misinformation...
Me too last night I was watching the fellowship in the 820p, I can tell you that with the Dolby vision enabled is worth it the upgrade, very clean and sharp the details, in the Series X you’re missing the Dolby vision since it’s only for streaming and gaming, that’s the bad side
I'm so jelous. Still tryna get my hand on the ps5 so I can also use the 4k BluRay player too. LOTR is the first thing i wanna get for it. Should look awesome on my Sony a8h.
@@Wylde5996 unless you have a native 12 bit 67 billion colour panel dolby vision isnt really giving you anything extra over a hdr10+ non static 10 bit 1.07 billion colour image, most people only have an 8 bit frc panel using 10 bit software anyway, so I wouldn’t pay it too much attention at the moment, thats one that's going to be amazing in the future I have a true 10 bit panel 1000nits and it looks oudsranding without the dolby vision support
@@nathanpickering6742 mate I was blown away, amazing image, decent hdr (lotr isnt the best hdr but its decent) and the sound mix is out of this world, seriously, the atmos track was phenomenal. I cant stress how good the sound is, it was by far the best part. Watching the start where Isildur cuts the ring from Saurons hand was like watching a brand new film, looked and sounded absolutely amazing
@@battfinkz dude that's exciting to know!, Sound quality is an important aspect when remastering a film. And about the 10 bit thing, alot of newer 4k hdr panels are using 10 bit now, and all the OLED TVs are using 10 bit I'm pretty sure.
I tried a dedicated blu player twice one was Sony and other was Samsung. Both were horrible experience from freezing, rebooting in the middle of movies . My xbox one x as a blu Ray player works flawlessly. The day when I can get an xbox serries x and not have to pay a $1000 is when I will buy it .
Biggest issue for me is the Series X doesn't support Dolby Vision for blu-ray playback. Also it's bugged now and has raised blacks. Picked up a Sony UBP-X800M2 to supplement my series X and I think it was worth it.
@@Solidariity I decided to stick with my series X for now. Going to look at the price of the UB820 in 1-2 years and grab one if it drops in price. I'm currently using an LG CX so I think it's tone mapping should be decent enough for me atm. I eventually want that control that the UB820 offers as well as the Dolby vision disc support which the series X lacks. In 4-5 years I hope to own a projector and I know a UB820 will be extremely useful for that because it'll tone map HDR content better than the projector can once it's dialed in to how I want.
First time to watch a video from your channel. I must say that I like how you produce your videos. I guess I’m a finicky control freak because your description of the UB820 is exactly what I’m looking for. I have been an Xbox owner of all generations of microsoft consoles with the series x being the exception (not enough content yet to warrant a purchase). I have not been entirely impressed thus far with the software blu ray player of the Xbox One X. It’s ok. I am very curious as to the performance of the PS5 in terms of the blu ray performance. I would guess that the lack of controls that the series x has with the software blu ray player (in contrast to the UB820) will be equivalent to the PS5 as well. I look forward to your next video. Thanks!
I have the Panasonic UB-820 and it does wonders for hdr on a projector compared to an Xbox which I used primarily as my 4k player prior to getting the dedicated player. The movie Solo particularly, which is very dark and almost unwatchable on a projector, the UB-820 hdr settings was awesome and made it fun to watch in my theater. But on a tv the Xbox does a great job and most people couldn’t tell the difference. By the way thank you for your post on Xbox launch day cause I was able to get one at Best Buy after your heads up! Another great video!!!
@@natehgh that’s strange. GM works perfect for me. I did have to replace my copy of Blade Runner though, as one spot in the movie would freeze up my 820. No issues at all with the replacement disc. 🤷♂️
Quick question. I'm thinking about buying The Lord the Rings Trylogy all in 4K Blu Ray. Will my Xbox Series X play this without any issues? Is it like plug and play?
Matbe a bit late but yeah its plug and play. Atmos is great and picture is sharp. Still wonder if I can notice the difference between en xsx and the Panasonic 820 player.. maybe when its on discount ill try. Most reviews are not checking the sound quality difference via HDMI. Hopefully someone can tell the difference in Atmos performance?
Did the xbox one S also receive the improvements. Or does the one x get exclusive chip or sw upgrades that make it superior to the one one s when it comes to 4k playback?
I don’t understand how you came to conclusion of an elevated black level, when scientific equipment has been used to show that the Xbox Blu-Ray app properly renders black at 0 cd/m as instructed by the Blu-ray Disc. I’d prefer if you were able to actually measure what the black level is on blu-ray player and have you updated the app? Also when did you film it because the elevated black has been addressed for a while now, it’s possible you filmed before that. Overall, I enjoyed your content.
It is a bit annoying that the Series X doesn't support Dolby Vision via 4K Blu-rays. Not all dedicated 4K blu-ray players support it either as the one you use in the video comparison. I'm sure this video will be useful for many. Thanks for the info.
If you are a movie /video enthusiast in the true sense of the word, you will have a quality stand alone BD player because it's likely to that the rest of the components in your system are enthusiast level as well. If you don't care so much about such things and simply like to watch movies, then the Xbox (or a cheap BD player for that matter) is a good choice. I use a UB9000 as main with the Series X as a backup outside of gaming if necessary.
great video compare. to bad for the youtube compression. HDTVTest did an HDR test and the xbox only get 11,11,11 and not 0,0,0 for black levels. Hopefully it is patched some and you could make a new compare. thanks again
One thing I find almost as important as the quality of the videos is the capabilities of resolution upscale. For example, watching full HD movies on an Xbox One on a 4K display is unacceptably bad because the movie is like 1/4 of the display size and there's 3/4's black "bazels" and you cannot adjust it through the tv because then all other elements on the Xbox is F'ed up. So... Do the Xbox Series X got a better video playing capability than the Xbox One?
I wonder. Is the Xbox One X, any different? I have both. The Series X and the Xbox One X. But I use my One X in my living room as a DVD player. And my Series X as my gaming console. Is it worth swapping consoles every time I want to watch a movie?
honestly, all your findings make me wonder. did you do the tv calibration steps in the xbox series x? it might be resolved if your calibration profile is different between the player and the console
Short answer: Yes. Long answer: No, but the difference isn't great enough for most users and requires an additional cost if you already have an Xbox 4K capable console.
It might be a good option for some, however mine refuses to play any 4K UHD Blu-ray movies. It shows blank black screen with audio playing in the background. Regular 1080p HD Blu-ray’s work fine. I’ve read multiple forum posts describing the same problem. Bought my XBOX about two years ago, and only recently upgraded to 4K with Hisense U8K TV, so I haven’t tested 4K until now, and by now it’s out of warranty. XBOX shows green check marks for all available audio/video settings including 4K 120, I am using proper HDMI 2.1 cable on eARC, no other devices are connected, and I did troubleshoot various things, including power cycling, updating system+apps, resetting the console, and clearing persistent storage. Nothing worked for me. I’m debating, if I should get a proper dedicated player such as Panasonic DP-UB820-K or PS5.
THANK YOU for your Opinion. You cleared up some things for Me. I just bought the LG OLED CX, so I don't think I need a Dedicated Bluray at this time. I will save my money and enjoy. Thanks again.
Yeah, I mean even just adjusting the gamma can make a big difference. Most people have it at 0, but -2 looks the best tbh, and sometimes -1. But just adjusting it by 1 can alter the perceived contrast and colour saturation.
Are the features that are missing on the Xbox software related? The Xbox needs the bluray app to play blurays and it feels like it's pretty lacking and seems mostly unchanged since 2015
I think the different background color lighting adds to the effect of a brighter/more contrasty image depending on the color and so to do a more fair comparison you have to use the same background color lighting
The different background colors are to help viewers tell the difference and to help me with editing. I can assure you they didn’t have any effect on the actual picture
@@ThaVillaMan I understand why you did it, but writing at the bottom of the video which image is from the blu-ray player and which is from the series x would be enough. Otherwise very good comparison :)
Are you able to get Dolby Atmos out of the SeriesX? Because I only Dolby true HD even though when I play video games i get Dolby Atmos. I only have this issue with the blue ray player. I have an LG C9.
I really want to justify a dedicated blu-ray player for Dolby Vision but after watching this comparison, I don’t know if I can. Maybe the difference is more apparent in person?
In the Xbox setting did you have it to output expanded color depth? I know there are several output config settings. Wonder if adjusting any of those might change the output we are seeing.
I think the only thing that kind of sucks in my opinion is that Microsoft still won’t update the blu ray app I mean there are still a lot problems with it like bugs, crashes, even frame drop problems like whenever you fast forward or rewind a part on Xbox it’ll act all buggy where as with Sonys PS5 when you fast forward or rewind it’ll act a lot more smoother compared too Xbox’s version I hope that one day with this new generation of gaming Microsoft will finally see what the problems people are having too struggle with some of the bugs on the blu ray app since Microsoft do a really good job on communication and deeply care about their customers and the Xbox community that always find a solution for these types of issues
What u talking about I play 1080p blurays on the xbox one s no issue and also bluray on the xbox if u put it on a monitor You get that computer related
Interesting, seems like it's a lot closer than expected. Would you say something like a CX could handle the tone mapping job well enough using a series X
Why didn't you show if you used the same TV-settings and same HDMI input? Makes me think that both devices are connected at the same time in different inputs with different settings each... I'm pointing this because I seen enough reviews to know that you can have deferent settings for deferent inputs.
There is no difference at all. I would be more concerned about quality of the surround sound and atmos from xbox series x. Is everything working smoothly?
Why do the 2 devices decode and render the digital movie differently? With the correct hardware and software implementation, they should output the identical image. Does the uhd player post-process the image?
My Xbox One S has a very loud 4K player. It's actually so loud that it's distracting. I'm not sure if it's the disk spinning or the fan, but would love to know if the XSX suffers from the same issue.
My Xbox Series X is currently making a loud humming noise when watching 4K Blu Ray Disc movies. I looked it up in “Reddit” a lot of them say that Xbox Series X lacks on the 4K Blu Ray side. Also it has a terrible audio delay. I’m watching “Bumble Bee Movie” and the audio delay is really bad.
Alita y matrix vienen en un contenedor Dolby visión y el Panasonic si lo reproduce así mientras que la Xbox no, por lo tanto manda la señal en hdr10 y por eso lucen distintas. Una comparación más justa habría sido entre dos películas 4k con hdr10 (no hdr10+ , ni DV).
Wasn't there an issue with the series X black level not being 0-0-0 (something like 16-16-16) where as previous gen (OneX) had a darker black level where true black was 0-0-0.
The one and only issue with the xbox as a blu ray player in my opinion is the insane noise it produces when playing 4k discs. The spinning noise and vibration emission is ridiculous and disqualifies it as a player.
Late to this but... I have two PS3s I use exclusively as blu-ray players. The reason is that I originally had a dedicated player, but disk protection schemes continued to be updated but the player's firmware didn't, so I ran into disks it couldn't play. The Sony's advantage was/is continuing updates. I don't know the situation with UHD disks, but will be more sanguine about a game machines support. My only question would regard Cinavia. The X have it? It seems likely, but since it's more of a PC base maybe not?
Apparently youtube got rid of polls, so comment down below if you guessed right!
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@@AnImperfectSoul im sorry but isn't that what he said in the review?
@@jukeplays7572 Yea lol
You are right to point out that there is something a bit strange with the XBox Series X and it's Black Levels - it does that in other modes too - like when using VRR. But I think it's not so bad that a bit of fiddling with your TV setting won't mostly compensate for it. For someone like me who isn't going out and buying racks and racks of discs it's perfectly adequate I feel.
Only way to appreciate how deep the black levels are is to watch on an OLED panel👌
IMO, it's not different enough to warrant getting a stand-alone Bluray player, especially when it costs $500.
Yes I was going to say the same
Really depends on your collection imo. If you have a few hundred 4k discs then the relative value of the dedicated player is a lot better than if you only have a few dozen.
a stand-alone bluray player can read burned discs
Especially when you could easily adjust tv settings to compensate.
@@roflryan7464 are there even that many 4K blu-rays available? I know it’s improved considerably in recent years, but several hundred still seems like a stretch.
I think the Xbox does an amazing job competing against one of the best 4k dedicated players around. With updates the Xbox could get even better. I’m perfectly happy with the capabilities of the Xbox, impressive. I’d like to see how well it does upscaling 1080p blu ray discs.
I recently tested out my Ice Age 3 Blu-ray Disc on the series x on a 4K display. (I got the Blu-ray back in like 2013 so I believe it’s 1080p) Needless to say the movie looked really good on the 4K tv. It honestly looked like it could be 4K itself
@@Green_Stache_Productions the Xbox always had a good upscaling technique, the HD DVD add-on for the 360 even improved the image on regular DVD movies.
@@codezero7981 interesting. Shame they lost the DVD battle with Sony
@@Green_Stache_Productions yeah even though Blu Ray was "technically superior" I would have loved to see HD DVD winning the format war
@@codezero7981 Then Blu-ray and HD-DVD would coexist with each other to this day
You could get the same image output as the standalone player on Xbox by simple creating a custom tv profile and calibrating. Good comparisons though. Always refreshing to see someone creating comparisons like this. Kudos sir.
Whatever the outcome, let me ask you this, can that BR player play games as well as the xbox plays BluRays
But he's way to late bringing this out xbox have been using a 4k player since the one x and one s ..and its made by Samsung plus its a fantastic player to be fair
If you're ok with less than ideal blu-ray playback then the console is fine. If you want the best possible image you can get then you want a dedicated blu-ray player.
Someone who is watching on a Vizio, TCL, or Hisense isn't going to notice a difference. Someone who is watching on a high end OLED very well could.
There are other things a dedicated blu-ray player can do that a console can't as well, like play SACD, DVD-A, video and audio files from USB, etc. It all comes down to what you expect to get from the player and what it's worth to you. Same reason Microsoft is selling an XSS as well as an XSX, not everyone needs/wants the top of the line and that's perfectly fine.
@@TheGreatMunky blu Ray is 30 fps and 4k is 60 to 120 fps ...the xbox one x 4k blu ray player is made by Samsung its absolutely brilliant and I see no difference on the xbox 4k played or my LG 4k player...if anything the xbox is better than my 4k player ..it gives me better and smoother picture ..so your talking shite
@@darrenhayes7786 I can't speak for LG players as I've never had one, but I have had a few Sony players and have had great luck with them. The drive in the Xbox may be made by Samsung but the playback depends entirely on the Xbox blu-ray app. I'm not sure if they've changed it or not but on the original Xbox One console I own the audio output was inferior to a standalone player.
Not sure what 30, 60, and 120fps has to do with anything. What tv are you watching on?
Just watching this video I could see a difference between the two players. On an OLED there's a big difference between near-black and black. If the Xbox player raises the black level then that would ruin the true-black of an OLED. Like I said though, if the Xbox player is good enough for you then that's fine. I'm not trying to say I'm better than you because I want a standalone player. I wish I wasn't as picky in regards to picture and audio quality, it would save me a ton of money.
@@TheGreatMunky im using LG 65 inch qled dolby vision with nanocell tech ..it plays my console at 120hz in full 4k thats full 60fps on the XBX and I cab tell you that the xbox plays 4k dvds better than the original as the original xbox one had a blue Ray player the xbox one X has a 4k uhd blu Ray player lol its not ps4 pro with standard blu Ray lol
FYI when you toggle the two images you changed the background color light. In doing so you affected the way our eyes see the image and how our brains interpret the image and its color. Great vid. not complaining
I noticed that too
Thanks for the feedback. What effect do think it had on your perception of each picture?
@@ThaVillaMan I found myself trying to block the background color with my hands so I could focus more on the differences in the picture image. For me personally my eyes had a hard time noticing the image differences everytime the background color changed. Great video though and keep up the great work!
@@ThaVillaMan The colors and light in out environments change the way we see other colors in our environment. Different types of light let off different colors of light. Thus changing how we perceive our world. It is why different type of exposure in film is used. There is way to much to cover in a comment on a video.
Look up Color Temperature in lighting, for starter. Take it from there. Think about how your eyes a ust walking from outside in doors. It takes a few seconds for your eyes to see the world correctly. But it is really just your brain reimaging what we see.
Glad someone already commented this
The LEDs in the background are not the same color ( one is Red and the other is Purple), I think it might change the perception of the image.
Agreed
Couldn't agree more, really threw me off and diminished the usefulness of the test. Still appreciate the video and the time taken however.
I had the exact same thought but figured I'd be alone in this... Good to see I'm not crazy! I suspected mr villaman was making them different colors as a way to label them which is cool but the way the colors surrounding an image affect its perception is profound. This is why I'm not a fan of entertainment center bias lighting in general; it's neat in theory but its effect can be oddly too influential over the perceived temperature of the image. Great video nonetheless!
Theoretically the 2 devices should reproduce the identical images if the decoding and rendering is correctly implemented without post processing, Chroma upscaling and such.
Same here spun me.
This was the exact product comparison I was looking for!
Side by side I could not tell, toggling back and forth I had to really look. Great video! Just makes me want a Series X even more lol
I can't see much difference, so I'm gonna stick with my VHS player.
i prefer beta
I can’t tell difference honestly hahaha
Haha I’d say you win then. You’ll save a bunch of money
Just compare the black bars, you can see the Xbox black bars are a really dark grey, instead of black
Go to 4:35. You don't see a difference?! It's pretty huge in my eyes 🙃 But yea guess your lucky if you don't see it 😄
This time in life, you need eyes of an eagle to see differents between all those things. The most Its al about tv settings.And it doesn’t make the movie any better with this tiny tiny tiny black black shadow with shadow differents???
@@keithkool8308 The contrast difference the from blackness level makes every thing pop more on the Panasonic player not just shadow details but the whole picture. But you are right there will be many other factors playing into bigger difference from settings and tvs. But for people who buy top tvs and calibrate them and use blurays for watching movies that difference is enough for not using the series X as a primary source of watching. Or at least that's how I feel about it 🦅☺️
I personally am just going to get the Xbox since I can bearly tell the difference
I don't see significant difference to justify the purchase of a dedicated blue ray player honesty.
Really needed a video like this! Thank you so much :)
Very informative... I use my Series X as a game console and UHD Blu-ray player. No complaints, although I haven't been watching any movies lately.. too many games to play
I hear that!
Which games? Because there's only 5+ to buy.
@@airnhere. I have AC Valhalla and beat it, Watch Dogs Legion, Cyberpunk 2077 that are the newest... I actually really like Cyberpunk. I haven’t had the issues that others are reporting and the story is really great. Lots to see and explore.
@@airnhere. I got Yakuza: Like a Dragon and Immortals Fenyx Rising which are great games (and Dirt 5 which is actually a bad game 💩)
@@flystevejobs Yeah, cyberpunk is a really good game, that was just too ambitious to run well on last gen games. If CD Projekt Red had been honest and upfront about that there wouldn't have been this whole backlash. Maybe a small amount from idiots, but not all this.
90% of people won't be able to tell the difference, and if you have to have a screen to tell the difference side by side then it doesn't matter. Also it's hard to have them both compete when for the Xbox the blueray function is not its primary purpose vs the blueray player which is build for that purpose only. Great video man I like your channel keep them videos coming
Seems like there is a miniscule improvement with a standalone player. The type of thing no human being would notice (or care about) unless they review them for a living.
There’s an entire sector of the headphone market targeted exclusively at people wanting the best sound quality. They buy so much stuff for what to us seems a minuscule improvement. So I’d reckon the same is true for video quality. Still if this is your reaction to this video, then it wasn’t made for you.
@@femboyfoxfurry2603 I'm actually a headphone collector, haha. So I'm very well aware. My whole point is that most people don't care and shouldn't bother. I might, they probably won't.
@@rsolsjo ah sorry. I just assumed you didn’t realize based off the other comments in this comment section. They act as if this channel isn’t for enthusiasts lol
@@femboyfoxfurry2603 It's alright. Yeah it can be annoying for certain.
Yes...the Series X 4K player has that well known raised blacks issue. Hopefully it gets addressed at some point.
If it's addressed though then there would be no need for dedicated 4K Blu-ray players. It's all about the $$$. These companies could do more for the money, but if they did how would they make more money on upgrades and better versions of the same hardware?
@@tb1235 erm, Microsoft isn't making a dvd player, it's making a console 😂. The raised blacks issue is that, a bug/ issue. There isn't any money in it for Microsoft, if anything they would be happier not putting a disk drive in the console at all. That disk drive is for games, and happens to also be a 4k blueray player, it's an added bonus not really something that Microsoft cares about having.
@@tb1235 they actually had this issue before with the X-Box one S version where it had lifted blacks but got patched through an update.
@@tb1235 ms doesn't make a stand alone player so what incentive does it have for sending more people to Panasonic or another 4k player manufacture?
I presume you set the HDMI Black Level on the Xbox to PC Mode, and the same on the LG? If you didn’t, then you are likely operating 240 levels for RGB rather than 256 hence the difference.
Brilliant comparison. I use the following:
Xbox Series X for gaming,
Panasonic UB820 for 4K Blu-ray playback and,
Nvidia Shield TV for streaming 😊
All bases covered eh? Nice!
same, only difference is that I use the UB450 instead of the 820, which is basically the same but with lower buildquality
@@ThaVillaMan I'm still a amateur to the home theater community. Got my 1st OLED TV this year (nothing special, just 55" B9) and a LG SN7Y Dolby Atmos soundbar (I'm going to replace it with a dedicated Atmos system later) with the rear speakers 😁
@@Mike_v_E hey...I don't mind build quality as long as it performs well. Look at the Xbox Series X...as someone whose had every Xbox since the 360 Arcade...hate the design of the Series X...for looks alone I prefer the PS5. In dark it's basically invisible...in my room anyway 😊
@@newandroid14 build quality and design is something different. Build quality is objective and design is subjective. You may not like the Series X’ design, but the build quality is insanely good
This is like an eye exam. "One or two?....ummm" 😂 I cant tell a difference. Great review. Ver professional. I subscribed to support your channel. Best wishes. Stay blessed 🙏
I initially upgraded to 4K bluray with the XBOX One X at launch in 2017 (I'd had a 4K LG LED TV and PS4 Pro for a year prior). My initial thought was it will be great, 2 for 1 but found the One X player to have a washed out image with poor HDR regardless of how I adjusted the settings (gaming was fine though).
As a result I bought an LG UBK80 player as I'd changed TVs to a Samsung QLED (didn't originally go for an OLED because I was worried about burn in) and because Samsung don't support Dolby Vision didn't need the UBK90.
I recently upgraded my whole bedroom AV set up due to the new consoles to a 55" LG OLED CX6LA TV (supports 4K / 120Hz with HDMI 2.1 and VRR), Sony UBP-X800M2 4K BR player, PS5 and XBOX Series X.
Tried the XSX BR player app and still found it to be washed out plus the app currently doesn't support Dolby Vision for movie playback although the console does supports it for gaming. I suppose a firmware update will fix it eventually but I really like Dolby Vision.
Got both the UB820 and the Series X myself. As a movie entusiast, and collector of 4k discs, the Xbox simply lack too many features and settings to be a fully dedicated player, IMO. Love the Xbox though, but I really bought it exclusively for gaming. The Panasonic player is waay to slow to navigate though, but that picture and sound quality more than makes up for it for me, when used with a calibrated Panasonic OLED.
I do think the vast majority however, even a lot of movie enthusiasts will be satisfied with the Xbox as their only player. It really is a great piece of tech.
Players really affect the sound.??? I have a q950a 1800 dolllar samsung surround sound soundbar system. I heard that they dont. Can you really hear better sound on stand alone 4k player vs the series x???
I appreciate your videos: good detailed info that looks to have research behind it. So that you know: there’s already a fix for the black level issue. It’s currently in the Insider program (Xbox beta firmware test program). I have 2 Xboxes and one is signed up to the insider program. I suspect it will rolled out to the masses in a few weeks. Keep up the good work.
Your intro in choice of words was so smooth, liked video just based on that👌
@Tha_Villaman_ gore may I contact you 🙌
Just my recent update and experience. So I've always played UHD disks on an X One, and now an X Series. I just got the UB820 a couple days ago, and these comparison videos don't do it justice. Having played both Dolby Vision and regular HDR10 movies on the UB820, there's a big difference/upgrade compared to the Xbox UHD player.
I highly recommend those who can, to purchase a dedicated UHD player. I chose the Panasonic UB820 because it's regarded as one of the best players out there, and because it auto switches to Dolby Vision display.
Auto switches? so does every other Dolby Vision capable UHD player, my UBK90 switches to everything you feed it for 200 less.
Hi
Great video!
How is about the audio quality difference between these two when watching dolby atmos content?
Great content as always. I have the Panasonic UB-820 blu-ray player. I love these comparisons. Can't wait to see PS5. And Merry Christmas!
Since the Xbox Series X got lots of updates and fixed the black levels. Would you be willing to do an updated review? Soon the 4k player will support Dolby Vision. This will be a new device for lots this year and the Xbox is way different now.
I have not seen anything about the Xbox getting Dolby Vision support for discs.
Link about the Dolby Vision part of your comment ?
That is not possible, as it requires hardware for DV for Blu ray.
@@senatormarrero You didn't because it's not possible. Xbox lacks the physical hardware. It can't be added via firmware if the SOC isn't there.
@@leeeverett4067 Its BS. The xbox doesn't have the hardware to support it. They couldn't implement it now even if they wanted to.
I love the Xbox SX don’t get me wrong BUT!! They definitely need to update the Blu-ray app because often the image will turn black and you can only hear the audio specially when playing 4K movies (who else has this problem)?
You get so much more from the Series X for the same price.
Don't buy series x if your wanting to watch dvd. It simply doesn't work after all this time it's still broken and just shows flickering green screens.
I've got the Xbox Series X, but there was something not quite right with the 4K DVD movies, so I bought the Panasonic PD-U820 and watched Maleficent 1 and 2. The section going over the forest at the beginning the movie on the Panasonic was nice a smooth where on the XSX had a stuttering effect and with Dolby Vision on 2 Dolby vision definitely helped bring some pop into the movie, like that colourful walk in the city in Alita ( great movie 🙂)
Awesome A/B technique / editing. Loved this comparison.
That ain’t no $500 difference. I’ll just use the Xbox. That screen in your background is a crazy HDR around your head.
It's a projector screen 🙃
Great Channel. Subscribed👍🏽
I have a Panasonic Ub9000 and against my other players and consoles the biggest difference is ability to tweak settings and watching poor quality disc. It does an outstanding job improving videos that weren't great transfers.
Yep, that's the main difference. Same with my Oppo 203.
Very good video, great expertise, thank you very much!
PS5 vs UB820 comparison please!
No comparison the ps5 requires you to mess with settings if you want the best of both worlds. Gaming and hometheater also tmit doesn't easily send atmos due to Sony wanting to push their 3d sound engine.
@@jukeplays7572 so he shouldn't do a video on this, because? This is also completely incorrect atmos is supported while playing blueray videos. And video and audio settings for gaming and movie watching are separate.
Dont spread misinformation...
@@jukeplays7572 The PS5 can send Atmos and DTSX to the receiver/amp just fine, what are you talking about?
Thanks, man, gr8 comprehensive review! gr8 advice, too! Thank you very much!!
This is exactly the video I was waiting for. A comparison vs budget Blu-ray player should be nice
Just watched the new lord of the rings 4k trilogy on my series x and it was glorious
Me too last night I was watching the fellowship in the 820p, I can tell you that with the Dolby vision enabled is worth it the upgrade, very clean and sharp the details, in the Series X you’re missing the Dolby vision since it’s only for streaming and gaming, that’s the bad side
I'm so jelous. Still tryna get my hand on the ps5 so I can also use the 4k BluRay player too. LOTR is the first thing i wanna get for it. Should look awesome on my Sony a8h.
@@Wylde5996 unless you have a native 12 bit 67 billion colour panel dolby vision isnt really giving you anything extra over a hdr10+ non static 10 bit 1.07 billion colour image, most people only have an 8 bit frc panel using 10 bit software anyway, so I wouldn’t pay it too much attention at the moment, thats one that's going to be amazing in the future
I have a true 10 bit panel 1000nits and it looks oudsranding without the dolby vision support
@@nathanpickering6742 mate I was blown away, amazing image, decent hdr (lotr isnt the best hdr but its decent) and the sound mix is out of this world, seriously, the atmos track was phenomenal.
I cant stress how good the sound is, it was by far the best part. Watching the start where Isildur cuts the ring from Saurons hand was like watching a brand new film, looked and sounded absolutely amazing
@@battfinkz dude that's exciting to know!, Sound quality is an important aspect when remastering a film. And about the 10 bit thing, alot of newer 4k hdr panels are using 10 bit now, and all the OLED TVs are using 10 bit I'm pretty sure.
nice video , the xbox x to ps5 which console plays blu ray better
And now he’s making me feel like watching alita again lol
I tried a dedicated blu player twice one was Sony and other was Samsung. Both were horrible experience from freezing, rebooting in the middle of movies . My xbox one x as a blu Ray player works flawlessly. The day when I can get an xbox serries x and not have to pay a $1000 is when I will buy it .
Biggest issue for me is the Series X doesn't support Dolby Vision for blu-ray playback. Also it's bugged now and has raised blacks. Picked up a Sony UBP-X800M2 to supplement my series X and I think it was worth it.
It does support dolby vision dolby atmos and dts x ps5 doesn’5
Doesn’t *
The UB820 has been something I've been contemplating whether to buy or not because I own a series X so this video is gonna be a good watch for me
What did u decide?
@@Solidariity I decided to stick with my series X for now. Going to look at the price of the UB820 in 1-2 years and grab one if it drops in price. I'm currently using an LG CX so I think it's tone mapping should be decent enough for me atm. I eventually want that control that the UB820 offers as well as the Dolby vision disc support which the series X lacks. In 4-5 years I hope to own a projector and I know a UB820 will be extremely useful for that because it'll tone map HDR content better than the projector can once it's dialed in to how I want.
Thanks for that review. Decided to go with the Xbox. Nice having an hdmi 2.1 port to connect to my LG CX.
Great vid 👍, but a question still runs in my head which is does the Sony UDP-X700 performs the same as the Panasonic UB820 for a cheaper price?
No
Panasonic has the hdr optimizer that is so good
It’s a beautiful time to be a tech head
First time to watch a video from your channel. I must say that I like how you produce your videos. I guess I’m a finicky control freak because your description of the UB820 is exactly what I’m looking for. I have been an Xbox owner of all generations of microsoft consoles with the series x being the exception (not enough content yet to warrant a purchase). I have not been entirely impressed thus far with the software blu ray player of the Xbox One X. It’s ok. I am very curious as to the performance of the PS5 in terms of the blu ray performance. I would guess that the lack of controls that the series x has with the software blu ray player (in contrast to the UB820) will be equivalent to the PS5 as well. I look forward to your next video. Thanks!
I have the Panasonic UB-820 and it does wonders for hdr on a projector compared to an Xbox which I used primarily as my 4k player prior to getting the dedicated player. The movie Solo particularly, which is very dark and almost unwatchable on a projector, the UB-820 hdr settings was awesome and made it fun to watch in my theater. But on a tv the Xbox does a great job and most people couldn’t tell the difference.
By the way thank you for your post on Xbox launch day cause I was able to get one at Best Buy after your heads up! Another great video!!!
The UB820 is a far better player if you dig in and use added capabilities of that player.
@@brucecarter6205 totally agree. Been very happy with it but for some reason has an issue playing Gemini man. Have to play with it some more
@@natehgh that’s strange. GM works perfect for me. I did have to replace my copy of Blade Runner though, as one spot in the movie would freeze up my 820. No issues at all with the replacement disc. 🤷♂️
@@brucecarter6205 it’s weird what disks have issues. I popped it in my Xbox one c and played fine but froze on my ub 820. Tech is weird sometimes
I have been happy with my One X blu ray player so it seems like the Series X player will be just as good.
Quick question. I'm thinking about buying The Lord the Rings Trylogy all in 4K Blu Ray. Will my Xbox Series X play this without any issues? Is it like plug and play?
Matbe a bit late but yeah its plug and play. Atmos is great and picture is sharp. Still wonder if I can notice the difference between en xsx and the Panasonic 820 player.. maybe when its on discount ill try. Most reviews are not checking the sound quality difference via HDMI. Hopefully someone can tell the difference in Atmos performance?
Did the xbox one S also receive the improvements. Or does the one x get exclusive chip or sw upgrades that make it superior to the one one s when it comes to 4k playback?
I get all my info from your channel! Great tutorial! Ty
Thanks so much!
If you need to toggle a million times, it's not worth it.
yup
A ps5 bluray comparison would be great thank you
I’m pretty sure Sony has Blu-ray mastered they had a Blu-ray drive since ps3
I don’t understand how you came to conclusion of an elevated black level, when scientific equipment has been used to show that the Xbox Blu-Ray app properly renders black at 0 cd/m as instructed by the Blu-ray Disc. I’d prefer if you were able to actually measure what the black level is on blu-ray player and have you updated the app?
Also when did you film it because the elevated black has been addressed for a while now, it’s possible you filmed before that.
Overall, I enjoyed your content.
It is a bit annoying that the Series X doesn't support Dolby Vision via 4K Blu-rays. Not all dedicated 4K blu-ray players support it either as the one you use in the video comparison. I'm sure this video will be useful for many. Thanks for the info.
If you’re tv supports it you can still get it
If you are a movie /video enthusiast in the true sense of the word, you will have a quality stand alone BD player because it's likely to that the rest of the components in your system are enthusiast level as well. If you don't care so much about such things and simply like to watch movies, then the Xbox (or a cheap BD player for that matter) is a good choice. I use a UB9000 as main with the Series X as a backup outside of gaming if necessary.
great video compare. to bad for the youtube compression.
HDTVTest did an HDR test and the xbox only get 11,11,11 and not 0,0,0 for black levels. Hopefully it is patched some and you could make a new compare. thanks again
One thing I find almost as important as the quality of the videos is the capabilities of resolution upscale.
For example, watching full HD movies on an Xbox One on a 4K display is unacceptably bad because the movie is like 1/4 of the display size and there's 3/4's black "bazels" and you cannot adjust it through the tv because then all other elements on the Xbox is F'ed up.
So... Do the Xbox Series X got a better video playing capability than the Xbox One?
I wonder. Is the Xbox One X, any different? I have both. The Series X and the Xbox One X. But I use my One X in my living room as a DVD player. And my Series X as my gaming console. Is it worth swapping consoles every time I want to watch a movie?
Have u tried the series x as a 4k br player yet then.?.
honestly, all your findings make me wonder. did you do the tv calibration steps in the xbox series x? it might be resolved if your calibration profile is different between the player and the console
Calibration has nothing to do with it. The Xbox has a known issue, which won’t be fixed until it’s updated
@@ThaVillaMan ah good to know. im still running this on a 1080p display but i want to be some what future proofed
No such thing. Any TV will last a good while tho
Thanks for your video. Very interested in this Xbox feature.
Can you make the same analysis and comparison with the 4K BR player in the PS5?
Most def
Nice comparison, thanks
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: No, but the difference isn't great enough for most users and requires an additional cost if you already have an Xbox 4K capable console.
It might be a good option for some, however mine refuses to play any 4K UHD Blu-ray movies. It shows blank black screen with audio playing in the background. Regular 1080p HD Blu-ray’s work fine. I’ve read multiple forum posts describing the same problem. Bought my XBOX about two years ago, and only recently upgraded to 4K with Hisense U8K TV, so I haven’t tested 4K until now, and by now it’s out of warranty. XBOX shows green check marks for all available audio/video settings including 4K 120, I am using proper HDMI 2.1 cable on eARC, no other devices are connected, and I did troubleshoot various things, including power cycling, updating system+apps, resetting the console, and clearing persistent storage. Nothing worked for me. I’m debating, if I should get a proper dedicated player such as Panasonic DP-UB820-K or PS5.
Don't Xbox Series X also supports HDR10+ via disc playback (and maybe a couple of streaming apps like Amazon Prime Video)?
No
THANK YOU for your Opinion. You cleared up some things for Me. I just bought the LG OLED CX, so I don't think I need a Dedicated Bluray at this time. I will save my money and enjoy. Thanks again.
Great video. Informative and to the point. New sub from me.
Maybe adding some contrast on your TV settings might do the job depending on the tv you have
Yeah, I mean even just adjusting the gamma can make a big difference. Most people have it at 0, but -2 looks the best tbh, and sometimes -1. But just adjusting it by 1 can alter the perceived contrast and colour saturation.
Are the features that are missing on the Xbox software related? The Xbox needs the bluray app to play blurays and it feels like it's pretty lacking and seems mostly unchanged since 2015
Great video 👍🏼👌🏽
I think the different background color lighting adds to the effect of a brighter/more contrasty image depending on the color and so to do a more fair comparison you have to use the same background color lighting
The different background colors are to help viewers tell the difference and to help me with editing. I can assure you they didn’t have any effect on the actual picture
@@ThaVillaMan I understand why you did it, but writing at the bottom of the video which image is from the blu-ray player and which is from the series x would be enough. Otherwise very good comparison :)
Are you able to get Dolby Atmos out of the SeriesX? Because I only Dolby true HD even though when I play video games i get Dolby Atmos. I only have this issue with the blue ray player. I have an LG C9.
Since this video was posted, Microsoft fixed the Black Level issue. So now black level is on par with the ub820.
Yea I’m going to be making another video
I really want to justify a dedicated blu-ray player for Dolby Vision but after watching this comparison, I don’t know if I can. Maybe the difference is more apparent in person?
In the Xbox setting did you have it to output expanded color depth? I know there are several output config settings. Wonder if adjusting any of those might change the output we are seeing.
I did and it won’t change it. The issue is the black level the console outputs, which can only be fixed by an update
@@ThaVillaMan excellent Info, thanks for being thorough!!!
I think the only thing that kind of sucks in my opinion is that Microsoft still won’t update the blu ray app I mean there are still a lot problems with it like bugs, crashes, even frame drop problems like whenever you fast forward or rewind a part on Xbox it’ll act all buggy where as with Sonys PS5 when you fast forward or rewind it’ll act a lot more smoother compared too Xbox’s version I hope that one day with this new generation of gaming Microsoft will finally see what the problems people are having too struggle with some of the bugs on the blu ray app since Microsoft do a really good job on communication and deeply care about their customers and the Xbox community that always find a solution for these types of issues
Have you had issues on the Audio Delay towards 4K Blu Ray Disc movies on the Xbox Blu Ray app? The Audio Delay on my Xbox Series X is really terrible.
@@Juniorgalle21 No I’m only just saying what Microsoft could improve upon is all
@@fortnitemaster7815 I agree with you!
@@Juniorgalle21 I’m glad we’re on the same track
What u talking about I play 1080p blurays on the xbox one s no issue and also bluray on the xbox if u put it on a monitor You get that computer related
I just bought the X-BOX 1-S a year back I wonder if there is any difference between the two players?
Another fantastic video / these comparisons vids should save folk a few £$.
Merry Christmas🤶🎅🎄🎁⛄
Well technically Sony didn't develop Blu-ray, it was the Blu-ray Disc Association which consisted of 10-20 tech companies which Sony was apart of.
True. Although they were one of the founding companies before it became an association
Interesting, seems like it's a lot closer than expected. Would you say something like a CX could handle the tone mapping job well enough using a series X
Why didn't you show if you used the same TV-settings and same HDMI input?
Makes me think that both devices are connected at the same time in different inputs with different settings each...
I'm pointing this because I seen enough reviews to know that you can have deferent settings for deferent inputs.
If you do not have infinite contrast, i.e.; non-OLED, how critical is that bit of gray fog introduced by the Xbox?
There is no difference at all. I would be more concerned about quality of the surround sound and atmos from xbox series x. Is everything working smoothly?
I love your short.
You deserve more subscribers
Why do the 2 devices decode and render the digital movie differently? With the correct hardware and software implementation, they should output the identical image. Does the uhd player post-process the image?
And what about the Xbox one S? Does it cut it for 4k Bluray player?
My Xbox One S has a very loud 4K player. It's actually so loud that it's distracting. I'm not sure if it's the disk spinning or the fan, but would love to know if the XSX suffers from the same issue.
My Xbox Series X is currently making a loud humming noise when watching 4K Blu Ray Disc movies. I looked it up in “Reddit” a lot of them say that Xbox Series X lacks on the 4K Blu Ray side. Also it has a terrible audio delay. I’m watching “Bumble Bee Movie” and the audio delay is really bad.
One x is quiet for me
Alita y matrix vienen en un contenedor Dolby visión y el Panasonic si lo reproduce así mientras que la Xbox no, por lo tanto manda la señal en hdr10 y por eso lucen distintas.
Una comparación más justa habría sido entre dos películas 4k con hdr10 (no hdr10+ , ni DV).
Wasn't there an issue with the series X black level not being 0-0-0 (something like 16-16-16) where as previous gen (OneX) had a darker black level where true black was 0-0-0.
The xbox one s and one x have the same blu-ray disc player as the series x. Those are other gaming options if you don't need the newest tech.
My one S plays movies wonderfully.
The one and only issue with the xbox as a blu ray player in my opinion is the insane noise it produces when playing 4k discs. The spinning noise and vibration emission is ridiculous and disqualifies it as a player.
The Xbox One S also has an integrated 4k Blu Ray, to this day it still seems like a good option.
Late to this but... I have two PS3s I use exclusively as blu-ray players. The reason is that I originally had a dedicated player, but disk protection schemes continued to be updated but the player's firmware didn't, so I ran into disks it couldn't play. The Sony's advantage was/is continuing updates.
I don't know the situation with UHD disks, but will be more sanguine about a game machines support.
My only question would regard Cinavia. The X have it? It seems likely, but since it's more of a PC base maybe not?