This single-handedly got me into PC building. If someone asks me "how did you come to like computers and want to learn more?" i will always tell them that it was this video. Thank you.
"Just remember that it's not, it's not cause like they're... y'know... fucking... I dunno, ah, I dunno I don't even... I dunno (where the fuck I am). I dunno. Y'know? I just don't know." The quintessential argument against AMD in 2018
Intel is fucked with the new Ryzen processors. Don't know about the new AMD graphics cards vs RTX though. Heard RTX is terrible to the point people make memes out of it.
Oh my lord, Philip, you gave me a nostalgia of my life, I remember back in 2010 or 9 when my older brother was into parkour and bought mirror's edge and we were so amazed with the graphics, level design, story and overall gameplay that it shocked me so hard that untill now I was in a mindset that this game is almost brand new. When you said about "playing older classics like this one" I just felt a warm punch in my heart. Good times Philip, good times...
@@pancakesandsyrup1233 brother the story is genious, the graphics are genious, the game is genious, definitely should try it if you like story games or pakrour :)
Do condoms really come in sizes. Like if your dick is a thick as a baguette you have something wrong with you. Pretty sure even if its big you could just roll it up a bit.
I like how you include shroud in this video. It's one of my pet peeves about him (and other big streamers). He doesn't understand computers well and misleads people on his stream. Like how he never turns off his PC (only once a month) because once it restarts, something is "off" or "broken", but he doesn't go in detail why and often presents misinformation. It seems like his whole streaming setup is working because... "it just works". I remember him fucking up the AMD CPU socket thing a while ago, boy was that annoying. It's amazing how good you can be at video games, but fail to understand basics of PC. Anyway, I am ranting.. But thank you for including that!
Its annoying that hes good at one thing but bad at other, you know there are people that are good at analyzing and coaching football for example, but bad at playing it, same goes for shroud knowing how to play well but being worse at other, thats how everyone works, youre not amazing at everything aswell
Just to give my 2 cents here, I’ve run my RUclips channel for over 8 years now, 7 of which all my videos were recorded and rendered on a rig with the AMD HD5870. The HD series were, back then, one of the best cards that were ever released! Great video, it really shows that, with the right setup and mindset, you can easily achieve about anything you need!
This shows that getting into PC gaming is easier than ever. Great video with many many examples, I can imagine this one took longer to edit than usual.
Maybe, but I think the biggest appeal about PC gaming is the huge library of games, as opposed to raw performance. As Philip said in the video, this setup is still great to play older titles and classics, especially if someone is new to PC gaming and has never gotten to experience them yet.
Believe it or not, "small" vs "large" condoms are how much slack they give when worn. Small will be tighter around the base and cut circulation on thicker dicks. And "large" gives more slack, with more material, so it doesn't break during sex. I promise you small vs big isn't a case to berate anyone over since people are majorily uninformed about this whole thing.
I've always eyeballed this one, and the 2400g. The 2400g sits about £30 above the 2200g. Does anyone know if the 2400g gives £30 worth of extra performance?
Generally, more cores is better nowadays. The 2400g does is still a quad-core, but it does have double the threads, and slightly better on-board graphics. But the Ryzen 5 2600 is just a little bit more, (like 5 dollars USD, don't know how much in pounds), and it gets you 2 more cores and 4 more threads. That would be a great boost seeing how in some modern games 4 core CPUs are getting topped out, 100% usage. But if you're looking to use the on-board graphics, I say the 2400g is a perfectly reasonable choice. The extra threads should help with more CPU intensive task, and the graphics is comparable performance-wise to a GTX 750 ti. Hope this helps.
No. You can get the same performance with a memory overclock. If you really want even more performance, buy a B430 and overclock the fuck out of the CPU and iGPU.
You just triggered a flashback to my old college days where I had a 720p macbook pro but played some games in 480p. GPU had 128 MB vRAM and I remember constantly thinking "gah, should've gotten the 256 MB version". I didn't even bother scaling up; the game didn't officially support that resolution so I had to do some weird hack and it ended up being a tiny window within my screen with giant black borders. Got maybe 20 fps on average. Still had fun, 10/10.
People keep bringing up the fact that Phillip could have changed his motherboard to a less cheap one so that you could overclock the PC even despite the bundle, but I honestly disagree with them. I think that it's fair enough if you saved money through a bundle. I guess if someone wanted to squeeze more performance they could overclock but for people who are new to PC gaming or just mostly computer illiterate, I honestly don't think recommending overclocking is a good idea. People newer to PC gaming will likely not want to spend as much money on their build (or time to learn what is the best and how to overclock) and instead want a simple way to get a PC up and running cheaply. I think Phillips recommendation is placed for the right reasons, and hey at worst this video is a worst case scenario for someone thinking of getting this.
Exactly, and that's how I viewed the video myself but then again I started out on a system that could barely run old games at 30 fps, so I guess that's just a mindset thing. I guess in future to avoid the elitist crowd you could preface the video stating that it's for people that just want a quick solution, but hindsight is 20/20.
Siege's T-AA is a bit tricky, you should have told us what were your setting exactly, because T-AA renders thing in lower resolution and then uses magic to make it look like there's more pixels than there actually are. Great video, Ryzen is a game changer in countries where graphic cards are considered exclusive items and taxed horribly high. This new CPU might bring more people to gaming and allow for a decent budget rig. Thanks for showing us this, Philip.
Ubisoft's CEO sold his soul in exchange of this cosmic technology they used in Siege. Getting all the settings right is Sisyphean labour, even understanding how it works is beyond many minds. It's very interesting and complicated, to be honest I haven't seen it used anywhere else before. It was a good idea to use benchmark as a solid test environment, it shows pretty much every aspect of the game.
1:01 maybe also point out that proper standoffs are a thing too because you almost just blew up your board right there. (notice the spark coming from the underside of the mobo)
Ryzen APUs are a thing I would love to tinker with, as other people have said with enough patience you can OC, you can thinker with RAM latency down to the nanosecond. If you want low budget this is the way to go, however if you see any deal on the 2400G you should take it, those extra threads will help out a lot even tough the extra GPU horse power might not do much. Its also a provides challenge optimizing both your OS and games while trying to get that "silky smooth 60fps" some .cfgs here and some .inis there and you can most likely achieve it.
+0xDEADBEEF Hmm interesting. I didn't know. He said something about it in the video I recall but I wasn't paying too much attention. Technically, every normal GPU performance is bound by memory bandwidth...but it's own ; this means VRAM, not normal system RAM.
Mercenaru I'm fully aware but you forgot that APUs are entirely reliant on System RAM for their iGPUs, which are allocated amounts of System RAM to be used as VRAM, meaning that the Vega 8 / 11 iGPUs are completely dependant of the System RAM since they don't have their own dedicated VRAM like their dedicated GPU counterparts
Shroud is a good player and all that stuff, but he is kinda ignorant with PCs and very stubborn when he has something in his mind.. also, I had to enable DX12 in Rise of the Tomb Raider to get playable framerate with an i7 4790 and a 980ti! otherwise it would lag so bad because the CPU was at 100% all the time, it was kinda weird.
It is not only him a lot of other pro players who are big community figures don't know a lot about pc and only thing they know is 8700k + 1080ti = high fps = good everything else = bad
I want to just add on that the Threadripper is better than his 8700K and that PUBG is actually INCREDIBLY unoptimized. Crysis 1 at medium settings looks better than high in PUBG. Why is Unreal Engine so good but so bad at the same time?
It doesn't really matter too much about the engine... a bad developer will still make a bad game with the best game engine and a good developer can still make something good on lesser engines.
It doesn't matter to him, because he has money, and it shouldn't matter. Think about it like this, if money isn't an issue and the only factor that's important for your job is high fps or graphics or whatever, than you don't really give a shit that certain CPUs or GPUs give more performance per dollar, the only thing you give a shit about is which ones objectiverly perform better even if they cost idk $1000 more. As another example movie studios have the same mindset with their recording equipment. Now if shroud was giving advice in that video.....that's a different story
@dxfxct "the Threadripper is better than his 8700K" Like, for gaming? Not at all. Rendering, probably. But even then 12 threads are still plenty unless you want to to something like encoding 4k in realtime. Unless you have some very CPU heavy workload that supports that number of cores threadripper offers you're better off getting a Ryzen or Intel and Overclock it for even better IPC.
I am really glad that someone figured doing fps tests on a bunch of games since when ever I was looking at graphics card reviews n shit, I never knew how much fps should I expect from it. Thanks for great videos, and no matter if I'm intrested in the game or topic you talk about in them, I always find them interesting. Also, don't scrap an intire video if you don't end up liking it yourself as much as you expected, trhow em out anyways, I bet a lot of people would enjoy em!
I still can't believe a pc could run all these games with just a CPU and ram, i remembered when i got into pc gaming, you couldn't even open solitaire if you didn't had a GPU, great video philip!
@@Anderson-ov4tp Just straight up budget/Mid range king. APU's like the 2200g or the 2400G are decent, but they're not long lasting, at some point in the next year or so they'll be kinda obsolete. But If you get something like a Ryzen 2600 (not x), overclock that a little (Which is easy) and any mid-range 1080p gaming card like the RX580(480) and you could even overclock that one and you got a system that can last for a few years pretty comfortably
I love these videos. Building a budget pc for someone else and seeing them really enjoy it is a very satisfying feeling because it reminds you of where you started!
Welp, this beats my laptop's dedicated 940mx. But to be fair that thing has DDR3 memory bottlenecking the GPU itself hard. Edit: I also beat Rise of The Tomb Raider with the said laptop. My performance was horrible, even worse than you had in the video. With everything set to lowest settings with a custom 800p resolution and further tweaks to Nvidia Inspector to make textures load horrible muddy extreme distance LOD textures and the such, I was barely getting playable 40-ish FPS. And even that got worse the more I played towards the end of the game. During the end game I was constantly dropping below 30 with those settings. My conclusion, don't play this game unless you have a beefy system.
@@khoado2060 ik it was crazy how much ram costed I got my pc a few years ago and the prices for any component skyrocketed.. instead of paying $90 for ram I can now pay $30 for 8gb
"If you are incredibly poor" well, here in latin america someone with almost 400 pounds just to build a PC for gaming purposes only is someone incredibly rich, and i said that with plenty experience as a proud owner of a 100 pound laptop from 2013 with no more graphic than the intel's hd 4000 and i'm the envy of my friends house only have ps2s and or, mini laptops and I the only one that can run far cry 3 st 720p in low at an playable 30 fps :)
I've tried very hard to find a inexpensive computer build being on console all my life only 3 years ago getting laptop that can play games but I can never really play a game well and nobody ever helped because unlike console its not as simple whats the best and I found all of my friends got animated when I asked and would brag about there own pcs expecting me to know instantly what there talking about so this really helps and would be a massive step up thank you for making the console to computer transition more possible for me
u can always look on forums, really helps a lot. i love pc because of the versatility, even on a decent non gaming pc, u can play almost all games till ps3,xbox 360 era, no need to buy different console just to play old games. PCMR is bullshit. yes the first time investment can be high, but if u do your research and buy games on steam sales, its cheaper in the long run.
@@11matt555 it depends on place, on Amazon india the 1050ti is always in stock and is less than half of rx470. Rx470 is 30k whereas the 1050ti is just 13k.
Thanks for this video. While I have no use for this, I know me six years ago would have absolutely loved to know this video. My first gaming build ended up being an AMD build after struggling with a Dell laptop with a first gen i3 processor. This video was super informative and honestly if I was getting into cheap PC gaming now, this would be so helpful
i am really impressed with the performance of this 90€ chip, but if you want to buy something similar and are able to spend just a little bit more, try to get the 2400G it may cost a bit more but you get an even better CPU and GPU at the same time.
@@welltypedwitch in Germany ists about 90€ often even below that www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G-4x-3-50GHz-So-AM4-BOX_1227064.html Should have mentioned it in my first comment that my price was based in Germany
Even though I have a i5 6600K and R9 390X it really makes me happy that people can enjoy PC Gaming in such a low cost...I wish that was the case when I bought my Q8200 and GT 9600 like 9 years ago...Awesome video Philip! Always a blast to have you talk to me through my computer for 20 minutes
I'm not exactly the target demographic but i can appreciate that there are solid gaming entry options for people who aren't ready to take the dive into the deep end right away with a high end graphics card and processor. It's also fun to see just how much juice you can get out of affordable hardware. Nice video.
I've always stuck to the midrange (currently on i5 4690 and rx 480) and whenever I get a bit of envy for the high end I turn my game down to low and lock it to 30fps. After about 5 minutes of that, I revert it back to how I was playing previously (typically High and up with a consistent 60fps) and I'm instantly happy with what I have again.
he's sponsored by intel or nvida i can't remember but maybe that's why he decided not to go on what he was about to say and just act like a complete stupid. Or he is stupid you kno'.. I dunno.
Seeing a very reality-grounded PC-building video like this is a treat. Some PC-building videos are still way above the general people's budget with the necessity that you MUST achieve 60 FPS at higher than 720p resolutions. So, thanks a lot manykliksphilip for this video as I'm sure a a lot of university students like myself want a cheap but good enough rig that could play at acceptable FPS.
You make a really good distinction regarding frame times over the gold standard 60fps. I wonder how many times I've strived to be at solid 60fps despite the fact that it would probably still feel quite smooth if I didn't have a frame counter on screen telling me it's sub 60
I just built a R3 2200g Build and I am really happy with the performance I am getting in games. Also got a freesync monitor which helps a lot by saving me around 20% of gpu power by not always targeting for 60fps.
Not ignoring the classics or just older games in general is great advice... I've been playing on PC properly for what I would say about 3 years, and there are still tons of old classic games which I haven't played it. It's a good thing, because you could say on hardware like this for a long time and have a satisfying experience. Older games are much cheaper than newer games anyway.
I am more than happy with this processor in my previous PC with Intel HD graphics I struggled to run even games from 2008 above 20 fps. This is a good for 720p gamers.
Any PC is a gaming PC if you’re patient enough
I guess 5 fps is playable if you lower your standards considerably
Wat about gt210 rb6s?
This is true. I'm still waiting for my potato to boot up cs:source. Eta is another 10 years or so
@@olibearws I played D2 at 6fps and got second on the leaderboard. it was running all slow motion too.
This Sentence is False. Yeah I use my brothers old laptop to play tf2 and csgo.
This single-handedly got me into PC building. If someone asks me "how did you come to like computers and want to learn more?" i will always tell them that it was this video. Thank you.
Bro u sneaked up on me from behind on pubg lol and then u just quit the game :( 6:12
:(
wtf thats amazing
Lmao
holy fuck ahahahahahah
holy scheiße hahahahahaah
6:55 Shroud really persuaded me. Great arguments!
hahaha
"Just remember that it's not, it's not cause like they're... y'know... fucking... I dunno, ah, I dunno I don't even... I dunno (where the fuck I am). I dunno. Y'know? I just don't know."
The quintessential argument against AMD in 2018
Sir Caco My friends when I said I got an R5 1600 instead of a 7600k
Well it's far more better option then that shitty i5, gj bro
Mate he's sponsored by Intel what arguments were you expecting OMEGALUL
@@matyasselmek3673 u sure buddy? I5 is waayy better lol
Intel is fucked with the new Ryzen processors. Don't know about the new AMD graphics cards vs RTX though. Heard RTX is terrible to the point people make memes out of it.
Oh my lord, Philip, you gave me a nostalgia of my life, I remember back in 2010 or 9 when my older brother was into parkour and bought mirror's edge and we were so amazed with the graphics, level design, story and overall gameplay that it shocked me so hard that untill now I was in a mindset that this game is almost brand new. When you said about "playing older classics like this one" I just felt a warm punch in my heart. Good times Philip, good times...
I haven't played it yet! Should I pick it up?
Yeah, theres no other game like mirror's edge. Thanks for answer
@@pancakesandsyrup1233 brother the story is genious, the graphics are genious, the game is genious, definitely should try it if you like story games or pakrour :)
@@PolajLive Alright, I'm down then 😃
@@pancakesandsyrup1233 :) hope you enjoy it
thanks for the condom size comparison, i really understand now
mein pp smol
Small sized
@Jimpa THANK YOU! already feared i am the only one questioning that :D
Do condoms really come in sizes. Like if your dick is a thick as a baguette you have something wrong with you. Pretty sure even if its big you could just roll it up a bit.
@@philip_bray Very much so, the vary a lot in girth and in length
I like how you include shroud in this video. It's one of my pet peeves about him (and other big streamers). He doesn't understand computers well and misleads people on his stream. Like how he never turns off his PC (only once a month) because once it restarts, something is "off" or "broken", but he doesn't go in detail why and often presents misinformation. It seems like his whole streaming setup is working because... "it just works". I remember him fucking up the AMD CPU socket thing a while ago, boy was that annoying. It's amazing how good you can be at video games, but fail to understand basics of PC. Anyway, I am ranting..
But thank you for including that!
It’s not annoying that he doesn’t knows, it’s annoying that he talks as if he knows stuff when he doesn’t
Its annoying that hes good at one thing but bad at other, you know there are people that are good at analyzing and coaching football for example, but bad at playing it, same goes for shroud knowing how to play well but being worse at other, thats how everyone works, youre not amazing at everything aswell
@@Glade4 if you dont know shit about something,you shouldnt talk about it,would u agree?
@@noamias4897 Exactly
"The individual pixels has reached such a large size that they were beginning to anti-aliase themselves" Hahaha
As I was reading this comment I heard him say that at the same time int the video. The timing wow
SoidSnake d
This is legitimately the concept behind FXAA. "well if you make it blurry enough eventually you won't be able to see the pointy bits at all"
SoidSnake d
How does it work / mean?
Just to give my 2 cents here, I’ve run my RUclips channel for over 8 years now, 7 of which all my videos were recorded and rendered on a rig with the AMD HD5870. The HD series were, back then, one of the best cards that were ever released!
Great video, it really shows that, with the right setup and mindset, you can easily achieve about anything you need!
my HD 6850 can still run most games at low. only in the last 3 years did I have to avoid AAA games because 1Gb memory doesnt cut it anymore.
This shows that getting into PC gaming is easier than ever.
Great video with many many examples, I can imagine this one took longer to edit than usual.
Dangerous waters though, they're just going to say that it's less powerful than the console you can buy for the same up front cost :P
Maybe, but I think the biggest appeal about PC gaming is the huge library of games, as opposed to raw performance.
As Philip said in the video, this setup is still great to play older titles and classics, especially if someone is new to PC gaming and has never gotten to experience them yet.
Yeah I totally agree, just saying how I'd expect many people to respond
Yeah, get a freesync monitor and it will be buttery smooth
MegaKosan give old punt
0:50 "small sized condom" Why would you have one of those?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Why did you lewd the loli
Believe it or not, "small" vs "large" condoms are how much slack they give when worn. Small will be tighter around the base and cut circulation on thicker dicks. And "large" gives more slack, with more material, so it doesn't break during sex.
I promise you small vs big isn't a case to berate anyone over since people are majorily uninformed about this whole thing.
Your name...
He meant *T I N Y*
Man that TR:The Last Revelation music while you were showing off Rise Of The Tomb Raider gave me chills. So much nostalgia.
man ikr?!
I never did play TR:The Last Revelation, but the original TR music got me the same way.
I've always eyeballed this one, and the 2400g. The 2400g sits about £30 above the 2200g. Does anyone know if the 2400g gives £30 worth of extra performance?
Generally, more cores is better nowadays. The 2400g does is still a quad-core, but it does have double the threads, and slightly better on-board graphics. But the Ryzen 5 2600 is just a little bit more, (like 5 dollars USD, don't know how much in pounds), and it gets you 2 more cores and 4 more threads. That would be a great boost seeing how in some modern games 4 core CPUs are getting topped out, 100% usage.
But if you're looking to use the on-board graphics, I say the 2400g is a perfectly reasonable choice. The extra threads should help with more CPU intensive task, and the graphics is comparable performance-wise to a GTX 750 ti.
Hope this helps.
No. You can get the same performance with a memory overclock. If you really want even more performance, buy a B430 and overclock the fuck out of the CPU and iGPU.
wow, love your videos dude, didnt expect to see you comment here.
great testing dude!
Worst build I ever seen
what
@@headrushuk what
@@headrushuk What
What
"If you're a student or incredible poor"... that hurt man, that hurt deep in my third world country soul.
man love that you have subtitles in your vids amazing
I totally agree, specially because i speak Spanish and helps a lot to understand.
quick tip for any budget gamer, lowering the resolution increases FPS the most.
I have a 1080p screen, but play everything 720p
You just triggered a flashback to my old college days where I had a 720p macbook pro but played some games in 480p. GPU had 128 MB vRAM and I remember constantly thinking "gah, should've gotten the 256 MB version". I didn't even bother scaling up; the game didn't officially support that resolution so I had to do some weird hack and it ended up being a tiny window within my screen with giant black borders. Got maybe 20 fps on average. Still had fun, 10/10.
Omg thank you so much you improved my fps by 30%
Daan I play most of my games on 640p
...isn't PC community so helpful if you look hard enough in places where you would never expect to find any help? :3
Yea, i have 1080p screen but i never play games with 1080p, the only one is roblox because you can't change resolution
"PLEASE RECRUIT ME POLYGON"
Niiiiiiiiiiice
Noice
People keep bringing up the fact that Phillip could have changed his motherboard to a less cheap one so that you could overclock the PC even despite the bundle, but I honestly disagree with them.
I think that it's fair enough if you saved money through a bundle. I guess if someone wanted to squeeze more performance they could overclock but for people who are new to PC gaming or just mostly computer illiterate, I honestly don't think recommending overclocking is a good idea. People newer to PC gaming will likely not want to spend as much money on their build (or time to learn what is the best and how to overclock) and instead want a simple way to get a PC up and running cheaply. I think Phillips recommendation is placed for the right reasons, and hey at worst this video is a worst case scenario for someone thinking of getting this.
Exactly, and that's how I viewed the video myself but then again I started out on a system that could barely run old games at 30 fps, so I guess that's just a mindset thing.
I guess in future to avoid the elitist crowd you could preface the video stating that it's for people that just want a quick solution, but hindsight is 20/20.
The condom is a bad comparison, we watch your videos, we don't have sex lives
Just kidding i love you, although i still don't have a sex life
@@tape2063 we can do it while watching My Little Pony on vhs.
Still a better love story than twilight.
Must not spill MLP spaghetti....
Damn it...
Indeed.
It's a bad comparison.
Oh hi Larry.... .... .... .... ....
Anyway how's your sex life?
@@tape2063 well, then it works vice versa, take it as a guide to buying condoms
I love the 2Kilks style of jamming your finger into everything, i miss the days when he thought a cooler was a PSU
*NUMBER OF PC GAMERS INCREASE TO 100%*
Sadly enough fanboys impede the PCMR utopia we all dream off
I just got a Nintendo Switch lolol
*DESPACITO 2200G ANNOUNCED BY AMD*
Nice, now the school kids have a budget pc to join our online games! I'm thrilled.
Gets killed by dragon in skyrim:
*Aw, so disgusting! Only 30 FPS*
*cries in 15 fps*
Cries in 230 fps
*dies in 0 fps cuz laptop broke*
@@anirvana I remember playing minecraft on my first computer and if I didn't look at the sky 24/7 the fps was 0
Siege's T-AA is a bit tricky, you should have told us what were your setting exactly, because T-AA renders thing in lower resolution and then uses magic to make it look like there's more pixels than there actually are.
Great video, Ryzen is a game changer in countries where graphic cards are considered exclusive items and taxed horribly high. This new CPU might bring more people to gaming and allow for a decent budget rig.
Thanks for showing us this, Philip.
Ubisoft's CEO sold his soul in exchange of this cosmic technology they used in Siege. Getting all the settings right is Sisyphean labour, even understanding how it works is beyond many minds. It's very interesting and complicated, to be honest I haven't seen it used anywhere else before.
It was a good idea to use benchmark as a solid test environment, it shows pretty much every aspect of the game.
1:01 maybe also point out that proper standoffs are a thing too because you almost just blew up your board right there. (notice the spark coming from the underside of the mobo)
Funny how I built my pc with this apu then I keep getting videos on why it’s such a great part really nice to see
man that nostalgic tomb raider melody... you always have the right choice of music man, great stuff!
Ryzen APUs are a thing I would love to tinker with, as other people have said with enough patience you can OC, you can thinker with RAM latency down to the nanosecond.
If you want low budget this is the way to go, however if you see any deal on the 2400G you should take it, those extra threads will help out a lot even tough the extra GPU horse power might not do much.
Its also a provides challenge optimizing both your OS and games while trying to get that "silky smooth 60fps" some .cfgs here and some .inis there and you can most likely achieve it.
“I just don’t know,I don’t know, you know, I just don’t know”
Nice video Philip 2! I enjoy your videos a lot man, keep up the amazing work!
I gotta say i really enjoyed that you put the tomb raider revelations theme in the background when you showed the benchmark for tommb raider 2013 :)
set your RAM to 3200MHz if you can, Vega's performance really improves with faster RAM
He did. If you watched.
The ram frequency has been debunked many times. It doesn't affect performance too much, just in 1-5 % ranges, so it's not worth the price.
Mercenaru
1. This isn't DDR3
2. This is with an APU where the integrated GPU performance is bound by memory bandwidth
+0xDEADBEEF
Hmm interesting. I didn't know. He said something about it in the video I recall but I wasn't paying too much attention.
Technically, every normal GPU performance is bound by memory bandwidth...but it's own ; this means VRAM, not normal system RAM.
Mercenaru I'm fully aware but you forgot that APUs are entirely reliant on System RAM for their iGPUs, which are allocated amounts of System RAM to be used as VRAM, meaning that the Vega 8 / 11 iGPUs are completely dependant of the System RAM since they don't have their own dedicated VRAM like their dedicated GPU counterparts
This is pretty awesome and I totally love that we can make a PC that anyone can play with.
Shroud is a good player and all that stuff, but he is kinda ignorant with PCs and very stubborn when he has something in his mind.. also, I had to enable DX12 in Rise of the Tomb Raider to get playable framerate with an i7 4790 and a 980ti! otherwise it would lag so bad because the CPU was at 100% all the time, it was kinda weird.
It is not only him a lot of other pro players who are big community figures don't know a lot about pc and only thing they know is 8700k + 1080ti = high fps = good everything else = bad
I want to just add on that the Threadripper is better than his 8700K and that PUBG is actually INCREDIBLY unoptimized.
Crysis 1 at medium settings looks better than high in PUBG. Why is Unreal Engine so good but so bad at the same time?
It doesn't really matter too much about the engine... a bad developer will still make a bad game with the best game engine and a good developer can still make something good on lesser engines.
It doesn't matter to him, because he has money, and it shouldn't matter. Think about it like this, if money isn't an issue and the only factor that's important for your job is high fps or graphics or whatever, than you don't really give a shit that certain CPUs or GPUs give more performance per dollar, the only thing you give a shit about is which ones objectiverly perform better even if they cost idk $1000 more.
As another example movie studios have the same mindset with their recording equipment.
Now if shroud was giving advice in that video.....that's a different story
@dxfxct
"the Threadripper is better than his 8700K"
Like, for gaming? Not at all. Rendering, probably. But even then 12 threads are still plenty unless you want to to something like encoding 4k in realtime.
Unless you have some very CPU heavy workload that supports that number of cores threadripper offers you're better off getting a Ryzen or Intel and Overclock it for even better IPC.
"I'm pretty good"
**picks up P90**
Shroud: "When it comes to AMD bro... uhh idk."
I mean. . . I have used an AMD RX 580 for like two years now. No issues, but I just dont know man. I dunno.
I am really glad that someone figured doing fps tests on a bunch of games since when ever I was looking at graphics card reviews n shit, I never knew how much fps should I expect from it.
Thanks for great videos, and no matter if I'm intrested in the game or topic you talk about in them, I always find them interesting.
Also, don't scrap an intire video if you don't end up liking it yourself as much as you expected, trhow em out anyways, I bet a lot of people would enjoy em!
I was thoroughly not expecting the condom...
i find that british people (especially philip) tend to be extra extra subtle and surprising with their sex jokes.
I was thoroughly expecting the condom, especially from klikphilip
The soundtrack of Mirror's Edge is so good I was struggling to hear what Philip was saying in that segment
Can't wait for the next video with the ryzen 5 2400g
As a student with a console and a slow laptop, this was very informative, thanks!
I still can't believe a pc could run all these games with just a CPU and ram, i remembered when i got into pc gaming, you couldn't even open solitaire if you didn't had a GPU, great video philip!
Tehnology improves, and apparently AMD is now the budget cpu/apu king
@@Anderson-ov4tp Just straight up budget/Mid range king. APU's like the 2200g or the 2400G are decent, but they're not long lasting, at some point in the next year or so they'll be kinda obsolete. But If you get something like a Ryzen 2600 (not x), overclock that a little (Which is easy) and any mid-range 1080p gaming card like the RX580(480) and you could even overclock that one and you got a system that can last for a few years pretty comfortably
Awesome video. I made a new "PC Building" playlist due to this. Excellent work!
I'm a poor student and this is amazing
Yees, please do more PC related videos. I love them.
Shroud: "AMD SUCKS"
Why?
He doesn't know
I love these videos. Building a budget pc for someone else and seeing them really enjoy it is a very satisfying feeling because it reminds you of where you started!
Its insane how towers outclass laptops of the same price by like miles .
Pretty nice build btw .
Man, Mirrors Edge brought back memories. Great video.
Welp, this beats my laptop's dedicated 940mx. But to be fair that thing has DDR3 memory bottlenecking the GPU itself hard.
Edit: I also beat Rise of The Tomb Raider with the said laptop. My performance was horrible, even worse than you had in the video. With everything set to lowest settings with a custom 800p resolution and further tweaks to Nvidia Inspector to make textures load horrible muddy extreme distance LOD textures and the such, I was barely getting playable 40-ish FPS. And even that got worse the more I played towards the end of the game. During the end game I was constantly dropping below 30 with those settings.
My conclusion, don't play this game unless you have a beefy system.
Isn't the 940MX the one that specifically has GDDR5?
Nope 940MX has 2 variants. The one with DDR3 memory is waaay cheaper.
Great video! you uploaded this video on the next day after i finished my R3 2200G build :D
Wow, this is actually possible with my money. Hm.
Funny (actually makes me cry but who cares) how the RAM costs almost as much as the CPU
RAM has been crazy expensive lately, but the prices should be coming down in the near future.
Don't seem to, been monitoring them since like May...
@@nzack7888 Is ram cheap now?
@@khoado2060 ik it was crazy how much ram costed I got my pc a few years ago and the prices for any component skyrocketed.. instead of paying $90 for ram I can now pay $30 for 8gb
While an annoyance, it is also a sign of how good the price is for the APU
another great video like always! you always seem to make every topic and video interesting, and I really like that
"If you are incredibly poor" well, here in latin america someone with almost 400 pounds just to build a PC for gaming purposes only is someone incredibly rich, and i said that with plenty experience as a proud owner of a 100 pound laptop from 2013 with no more graphic than the intel's hd 4000 and i'm the envy of my friends house only have ps2s and or, mini laptops and I the only one that can run far cry 3 st 720p in low at an playable 30 fps :)
I feel ya
@@thermalthruster get me out of latín América D:
@@thermalthruster get me out of latín América D:
I need to get the fuck out of Chile
@@thermalthruster aaaaaaa chale, yo tengo que salir alv de Paraguay, y eso que mi país ni siquiera existe :c
Great video Philip, the music goes great with it
I've tried very hard to find a inexpensive computer build being on console all my life only 3 years ago getting laptop that can play games but I can never really play a game well and nobody ever helped because unlike console its not as simple whats the best and I found all of my friends got animated when I asked and would brag about there own pcs expecting me to know instantly what there talking about so this really helps and would be a massive step up thank you for making the console to computer transition more possible for me
u can always look on forums, really helps a lot.
i love pc because of the versatility, even on a decent non gaming pc, u can play almost all games till ps3,xbox 360 era, no need to buy different console just to play old games. PCMR is bullshit.
yes the first time investment can be high, but if u do your research and buy games on steam sales, its cheaper in the long run.
1050 ti build for $700? You can get an RX 470 (40% faster than 1050 ti) into a $500 build. At $700 you should be looking at a GTX 1060 or RX 480/580.
@@11matt555 it depends on place, on Amazon india the 1050ti is always in stock and is less than half of rx470. Rx470 is 30k whereas the 1050ti is just 13k.
That is true, but Shane was using "bucks", which I assume to be USD.
I bought a cheap gaming laptop with a 1050 ti. It's serving me decently. I can play most games at good fps up until the most modern games
Thanks for this video. While I have no use for this, I know me six years ago would have absolutely loved to know this video.
My first gaming build ended up being an AMD build after struggling with a Dell laptop with a first gen i3 processor.
This video was super informative and honestly if I was getting into cheap PC gaming now, this would be so helpful
i am really impressed with the performance of this 90€ chip, but if you want to buy something similar and are able to spend just a little bit more, try to get the 2400G it may cost a bit more but you get an even better CPU and GPU at the same time.
It's not 90€ it's 90 pounds which is currently 100.95€.
@@welltypedwitch in Germany ists about 90€
often even below that
www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G-4x-3-50GHz-So-AM4-BOX_1227064.html
Should have mentioned it in my first comment that my price was based in Germany
Stampf
Deutsche hier?
Nice
Even though I have a i5 6600K and R9 390X it really makes me happy that people can enjoy PC Gaming in such a low cost...I wish that was the case when I bought my Q8200 and GT 9600 like 9 years ago...Awesome video Philip! Always a blast to have you talk to me through my computer for 20 minutes
Amd's apu is good to play on low while you get enough money for dedicated graphics. Idk why I love AMD and their long use of the same cpu socket
I'm not exactly the target demographic but i can appreciate that there are solid gaming entry options for people who aren't ready to take the dive into the deep end right away with a high end graphics card and processor. It's also fun to see just how much juice you can get out of affordable hardware. Nice video.
2:56 *happens*
12 seconds later: and I’m pretty good
I've always stuck to the midrange (currently on i5 4690 and rx 480) and whenever I get a bit of envy for the high end I turn my game down to low and lock it to 30fps. After about 5 minutes of that, I revert it back to how I was playing previously (typically High and up with a consistent 60fps) and I'm instantly happy with what I have again.
too be fair, shroud's not the brightest
i think he's just not into pc building
he's sponsored by intel or nvida i can't remember but maybe that's why he decided not to go on what he was about to say and just act like a complete stupid. Or he is stupid you kno'.. I dunno.
Also, i think hes got a threadripper rig now
I don’t even play on pc, but Phillips voice and presentation is just too enjoyable
7:21 "HOLY Shiii~"
Seeing a very reality-grounded PC-building video like this is a treat. Some PC-building videos are still way above the general people's budget with the necessity that you MUST achieve 60 FPS at higher than 720p resolutions. So, thanks a lot manykliksphilip for this video as I'm sure a a lot of university students like myself want a cheap but good enough rig that could play at acceptable FPS.
This was coincidentally released literally a week after I had already bought my own PC after upgrading since my old one decided it wanted to die
This is the most in-depth game benchmark video I've ever seen.
I kinda like limiting how fast your pc is, so theres a conflict.
Edit: Hmmm philip liked my comment.
Hmmm
Hmmm
Philip, Every video you make is catering to my interests. Never change.
that shroud clip lol
You make a really good distinction regarding frame times over the gold standard 60fps. I wonder how many times I've strived to be at solid 60fps despite the fact that it would probably still feel quite smooth if I didn't have a frame counter on screen telling me it's sub 60
How well does it run ROBLOX?
Barely 30 FPS. Valve, please fix
i only got 7200fps on roblox i think it needs a driver update
@@Belks1453 professional roblox players say you need at least 10k fps right?
I got 2 FPS and got killed by a guy holding a turkey leg
If you actually play anime cross 2 is might not be 60 fps
I just built a R3 2200g Build and I am really happy with the performance I am getting in games. Also got a freesync monitor which helps a lot by saving me around 20% of gpu power by not always targeting for 60fps.
0:48 Very Nice! 2kliksphillip is getting ladies.
Noob Nooby only small size tho
Didn't he stole this condom from his elder brother?
It may not be ladies though.
Awesome video, great you mentioned the GPU is tied to the memory. I was on the edge of my seat thinking if you were going to say haha.
But can it run Teardown?
that was an informative video philip, thanks for sharing
Ha! "Budget"
This PC is better than my own! Exposed!
Ha ha! Ha...
Yea....h...... :(
Yea I found what this system is for 175 pounds on cex(a uk used tech site) and I'm very happy
I have like 2gigs of ram
@Marek Tužák
You got a new PC?
3:11 This. Right. Here. My first PC wasn't the latest and greatest, but is was a big step up and a breath of fresh air from where I came from.
Could you do a video about Arma 3 optimization or there lack of
Cool! You should do a 5600G version of this, i'm getting up to 400 fps with the vega 7 on low settings!
Don't mind me, just leaving a comment for a higher visibility of the video.
TesseracT is the wave.
Thanks for making this video dude. ❤️
"But can it run Crysis?
No. But it wasn't the 2200G CPU, it's because the game is too old."
hahaha
For an APU? That is amazing that you got decent preformance, good job on the video 2kilksphiilip
You should benchmark the Dark Souls series on this PC!
I doubt it's much of a challange for it.
That cable management though.... LOL! Taking out that RAM stick was too funny!
But can it run roblox on highest settings?
D1psy oof
oof
No
lol no
thx philips !!! i already built the pc and it's actually more than enough for me !!!
You didnt test arma 3 on a multiplayer KOTH server with 100 people on.
Arma players are no gamers, -Mohammed Ali
@@StarDustTF2 ye, they're men
He didn't want to blow his house
first name last name the most edgy thing i've ever heard
Wow a decent PC to play a few games in my downtime doesn't seem like a dumb purchased now and is actually feasible. I'm amazed!
Overclocking on this Mainboard is not possible. I had to learn it the hard way.
Not ignoring the classics or just older games in general is great advice... I've been playing on PC properly for what I would say about 3 years, and there are still tons of old classic games which I haven't played it. It's a good thing, because you could say on hardware like this for a long time and have a satisfying experience. Older games are much cheaper than newer games anyway.
i want this design to play TF2
I am more than happy with this processor in my previous PC with Intel HD graphics I struggled to run even games from 2008 above 20 fps.
This is a good for 720p gamers.
crisis 2 look beautiful @ 2:12 love that roof top part with the helicopter :)
you're my favorite philip, philip :))
no they're all identical triplets