Peugeot 308 SW 2017 facelift (ENG) - Test Drive and Review
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Peugeot 308 is up there with Volkswagen Golf, as far as modest mid-life cycle refresh measures are concerned. Changes are subtle, but that's not a bad thing, because Peugeot 308 SW, station wagon or estate was a pretty good car from the start. In my opinion 308 SW is actually better (although not prettier), than Peugeot 308 hatchback. What has changed?
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Starting price: 19 800 euro
As tested: ~26 000 euro
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I have the 308 SW Active 2018 model.
Here my impressions of the car:
1. The 1.2 liter 130 hp engine runs very silent and has a good amount of torque.
2. The 6 speed manual gearbox works nice.
3. The boot is one of the biggest in its class (610/1660 l) and bigger than in the VW Golf or even in a BMW 5 series touring.
4. The small steering wheel and the Peugeot i cockpit works perfect. I did already appreciate it very much in my Peugeot 208.
The Peugeot sat nav works flawless in Germany. The graphics and the color combinations of the touchscreen look very high class.
5. Handling the automatic two zone climate control via touchscreen is very easy.
I just set the temperature for driver and codriver, put the system in auto mode and that's it. The car does the rest for me.
6. I ordered the safety package which also includes a special screen between the speedometer and the rev counter.
There I can see the digital speed.
If I want the car will show me consumption figures there.
And, very important, the sat nav sends me information there about where and when to turn.
This way I have my digital speedo active all the time which I like very much. Interrupted for short moments when the sat nav shows and tells me to turn right or left.
7. The suspension of the car is comfortable but not soft.
8. The car feels much smaller than it really is while driving.
9. The interior styling and quality is very high class. Very reduced, very few buttons.
10. The illumination of all the buttons has the right color: white.
Calm, worthy and not distracting.
11. All in all the car feels very nice.
After Peugeot 208 diesel, a very good and smooth diesel engine, I nevertheless enjoy the silence of the petrol engine. And the huge panoramic sunroof.
12. The seats are very comfortable and give a decent amount of side support.
13. My average consumption is between 5.5 and 5.8 l/100 km.
A little bit more than with my 208 (4,2 l/100 km). But I have a much roomier and a little bit stronger car . Which already has a petrol particel filter and Euro 6d.
I didn't go for the diesel version anymore because I only drive about 15.000 to 17.000 km a year.
Most of the time short distances and almost no Autobahn.
So the petrol engine is the better choice for me.
Do you remember what was you service schedule and cost in Germany? I'm also interested on a used 308 SW but I'm finding a BMW 318 and VW Passat Variant (both estate versions) at the same price range. Thanks!
308 is so much nicer than Golf.
its good that they didnt changed much.
I own the pre-facelift and now i dont feel the need to upgrade :D
love my car
I love my 2016 308 SW as well! Super pleased with it so far. Excellent highway cruiser, love the panorama sunroof, big trunk, quiet inside, etc. Not to mention that the car is extremely fuel efficient! 4.6l in the summer and 5.6l/100km in the winter, not bad!
my average is 4.8l (overall) with 2.0 BlueHDI 150.
if I would drive with "recommended" speed it would be like 4.5l :D
im sure if I had the new 1.5L engine as a hatchback without the sunroof I would even get something like 4 litres :)
I have a '15 308 SW, average is around 6-7 liters for 100km (1.2 puretech 130hp). I love it but I would like to find some way to update / upgrade the infotainment system with the facelift one. It's a shame our doesn't support apple car play / android auto
Looks more sophisticated than a Golf
Golf is totally dull and characterless.
Nice review, Marek. As an owner of the 2016 model of this car, I feel it would have been nice to mention that this new version supports Apple Carplay and Android via MirrorLink, which I think is a decent upgrade for some. Shame you didn't get a test car with the panoramic sunroof! The experience certainly is nicer in my opinion with one. Keep up the good work!
I need to remember about those. I'm an Android guy, so I never remember ACP. And Android Auto is unavailable in Poland :(
You can change the information shown on the small display between the meters. Just push the button on the end of the right satellite behind the steering wheel.
I like your style to the point yet fair and positive..
Excellent place for the meters indeed. I really enjoy your reviews, even though I have no intention (or money) to buy a new car. Still interested in new car models and tech inside them.
The magic flat seats are awesome!
Hi Marek, I really enjoy watching your reviews as I like how you judge cars from a totally unbiased point of view. I’m in Ireland and always watch your reviews before I watch the UK ones! Keep up the good work.
I do have a question for you to answer for me though. Which engine would you pick if it was between VAG 1.6 TDI 115, PSA 1.6 BlueHDI 120 or the Renault 1.5 dCi 110 engine?
I always found the BlueHDI 120 to be a superb engine, lovely spread torque yet very refined and economical. Would like to hear your thoughts! Thanks :-)
I think I'd go with PSA as well. As far as the engine is concerned. Because I think Golf is more usable.
I am curious about the following. Most of the cars you review are offered in 2 or 3 or 4 different diesel engine variants and another 2 or more petrol variants. In the United States, car models are offered with, at most, 2 different engine options (except for trucks which have 1000 variants). Why is this? Are there so many specialized markets or regulations in Europe that this is necessary? It seems SOOO expensive to offer so many engines in other basic, low-end cars. Do customers really need to choose between 100hp, 110hp and 130hp diesels? Wouldn't one fit the bill for most everyone? I can understand offering 1 diesel and 1 petrol, but every model you review offer 3, 4 or 5 different motors. Maybe I am just not understanding either the localization regulations or the consumers in Europe. Please explain.
Pricing and company fleets.
It is often the case that least powerful engine is available only on the lowest trim, which makes a good XX999 price to put in the advert. As trims progress and more powerful engine variants are introduced it's easier to conceal the extra price. You may ask "How much for sat nav?!?" And the dealer will tell you that it's not just sat nav, but also extra 10 hp :) That's for individual clients.
However in Europe company sales are just as (or even more important), and this is where different power outputs (and associated emission levels) come into play. If a company wants to be perceived as "green" it will buy a low-emission fleet, so the less power and lower displacement the better. But corporations wouldn't be corporations if they didn't have some policy allowing its more senior staff to drive more powerful (less green) cars. So you look at the carpark and all you can see are grey station wagons. But a few of them have more hp and better trim, and people who know, KNOW :)
In the end this is pretty much the same 1.6 HDi engine with different programme. I doubt they are using different drivetrain parts for different power outputs, so you could probably chip tune it for a couple of hundred euro. Of course, that voids the warranty, etc., but some people do it.
If we wanted to go into more detail, I guess there are also different use scenarios. Some cars are used mostly on the highway, others are driven mostly in the city. I think European cities are (in general, we're not talking about LA) more congested, and less spread out than American cities, so more engine choices make more sense. At least that's the theory.
THANKS for great explanation! I did not think of different chips. I understand so much more clearly now. Very interesting. GREAT GREAT GREAT site. Big fan!
Yiepie, in the past it was difficult to buy a french car with automatic gearbox, there was always one model with one trim level available.
So good news for automatic junkies.
The Peugeot 308 SW Diesel estate wagon is very unique in the Philippine market. I wonder if they will bring the facelift model here in the Philippine market
About the boot. Look at it, don't just read the numbers!!!! Definitely more useful boot space then Kia Ceed, Seat Leon, Ford Focus, Toyota Auris... basically only Skoda Octavia and VW Golf have better boots in the segment, but then octavia is a bigger car in general and definitely not nearly as comfortable
Octavia is next class up so difficult to compare size wise.
My 308 Sw pre-facelift has 620 litres of cargo area. Why is that diferent? Its because of the spair tire?
Yes, in Poland spare tire is standard in all Peugeots, and it affects boot volume.
Peugeot 308 SW has a larger boot then the Audi A6 Avant...you do like your German producers more 😉
Actually it doesn't, but it's almost as big.
Of course not, the biggest is Honda Civic Tourer even size of car itself is smaller
Talking about the i-cockpit, there must be a full digital version available where you can see also the navigation, but you need to pay extra for that, isn't it so?
I have no clue. I remember asking Peugeot about it, and they weren't too clear as to what/how/why.
Marek Drives you can get, at least in Norway, a screen which shows average fuel consumption, satnav, speed and so on. But it's only available from the allure spec and up.
Right. I would assume trip computer is not a luxury I would have to choose top spec version for. But it seems little has changed since 2000, when I could choose a 306 either with AC or with ABS+thermometer. I chose AC of course :)
Marek Drives yeah it's typical Peugeot to have wierd equipment levels;)
And imagine the equipment level you got on a basic audi trim delivered at the same price.....
1000E solution was epic :D
Should I buy this one 308 or 508 please answer me
Depends on what you need.
@@MarekDrivesENG my English is so bad I wish I could understand what u talk about the cars ,please give me good choice
What's your thought - this or the Škoda Octavia Combi?
If you want a big car with more tech, get an Octavia.
Marek Drives Thank you, just needed your confirmation!
Skoda's are typical VW - bland, dull and characterless.
Marek, would you buy this over a Ford Focus?
No.
Marek Drives Thanks.
He hates French cars.
Pedro Silva Hi, Pedro！
I could not find comfortable seating position behind Focus steering wheel - my left knee was hitting light switch. Was it ok with you？ That car was on my list until, but it was deleted after test drive.
Here in Latvia we have very good discounts as the new Focus model is coming out at the end of the year...
I did buy this over the outdated focus. its far superior. the focus interior is simply awful and so far behind now. yes the focus might have bit better handling but thats where it ends. Marek is knit picking here, hes trying very hard to find faults with the 308. The dash display and bonnet opening mechanism?? simply ridiculous petty things to be pointing out when they aren't even issues at all.
The top of the steering wheel is between your eyes & the dials or not?
Snowpeak74 it can or cannot be. It depends how you adjust it. Usually its user the instrument panel view line.
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Does it have a CarPlay & Android Auto tho?
Peugeot in 2017? LOL
@@MarekDrivesENG What? Isn’t CarPlay was a thing at 2017?
Nope. First of all it was unavailable in Europe, secondly it wouldn't be a feature on mainstream cars.
@@MarekDrivesENGinteresting. Thanks for the info. Just bought Peugeot 308 SW 2017 (manufacture year 2019) Active Business from French auction and seller claims it has CarPlay. I’ll reply to this comment when it arrives just out of curiosity
Carplay was available earlier than Android Auto. Either the infotainment has been upgraded since 2017 (these days it's common to see certain features appear and disappear depending on which WEEK of the year the vehicle was manufactured) or it's an aftermarket solution. I'd love to know, which one was it.
that reverse rev meter would drive me insane.
Obviously not an Aston Martin customer then :)
Can you please test Ford Kuga? THANKS
UN.....BELIEVABLE
golf
Pozwolę się nie zgodzić. Analogowy prędkościomierz jest mało czytelny. Ja w praktyce korzystam z cyfrowego.
I think I'd go with the Seat ST wagon. But then again we don't get either SEAT or PEUGEOT in Canada so my opinion is basically worthless. ;)
What European mass market models do you get in Canada? VW Golf (wagon?), Ford Focus... Anything else?
VW dominates. Ford is considered American here, either built in Canada or the States. Fiat is sold here but they basically sell variants of the 500 only. Mini is sold in special Mini dealers next to BMW. No Skoda, no Seat, no Peugeot, no Renault, no Lada (darn!!!). As for Opel/Vauxhall, they used to bring a couple cars badged as Buicks here but now they have been bought out by Peugeot from GM so I'm not sure what's going on with that relationship. Maybe you could investigate this. Maybe GM is planning on coming back to Europe as GM?
Also, none of the Chinese brands you might see in Europe, are sold over here yet.
I would say the affordable car is dominated by the Japanese and American OEMs over here. Americans are very nationalistic so learning toward American brands and Canadians love Toyota and Honda and Surprisingly Subaru has a rabid following.
I know Ford has a factory in Canada :)
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As far as GM in Europe is concerned, they mainly sold Chevrolet models made in cooperation with Daewoo and Opel (Spark, Sonic, Cruze, Trax, and a couple of others that I think got axed). They were pretty cheap, so they undercut Opel sales, hence GM decision to withdraw Chevrolet from Europe.
Cadillac didn't seel, Corvette is a niche model, so basically GM has 3-4 models, which have potential in Eastern Europe, where people buy cheap cars, and may prefer sedans to hatchbacks (though Cruze was available here as a HB too).
Not really a business case.
Chevy was seen as the cheapest option for the longest time but then Kia and Hyundai came along and matched their price and gave people cars that were attractive so GM seems to be supported by Americans who only want to buy American. Ha I forgot, about that video you made!
KIA and Hyundai are pretty big in Europe too. Interesting thing you said about customers buying GM only (or often) as a statement. Is it the same with Chrysler?
4:53 engine fault
Since then I learned to film car interiors, with the car engine on :)
Bear in mind leaving the car idling for over one minute is illegal in many places, so I'm actually breaking the law in order to keep the viewers happy.
Great review, looks like Peugeot are resting on their laurels a tad. I know it was a good car from the get go but if they overstretch themselves in their business acquisitions they may become fat and bloated on French government subsidies and end up squandering their innovative achievements over the past few recent years down the "British Leyland" drain. Their design language latterly has been good, but improvement is a continuous cycle. Thanks again for the excellent review, pity Peugeot couldn't see there way to providing you with a high spec car to showcase their wares, or perhaps they think they are now too upmarket for such bread and butter sales pitching.
It's a tough call with press cars. Some viewers want to see cars they'd actually buy, others want to see top trim to see what they're missing. I agree it's better to showcase all the features, but this is a fleet car in the end.
「こんなにいいとは思えない」、
Wrong! This car has the biggest boot in its class.
of course not, the biggest is Honda Civic Tourer even car itself has smaller dimensions. Japan !
I see you have nimble finger.
Dumbest ever review I've ever seen.
Wow. The carpet and fabric texture, fit, finish and even sewing on the back of that front seat looks awful. Even the worst, cheapest car offered in America looks better. And this one is 28K Euro? I can see why Peugeot are not offered in the USA.
What's the cheapest car offered in the US? Mitsubishi Mirage? (according to Doug DeMuro) Now that's a nasty ecobox. This is actually relatively nice inside. Perhaps colour, weather and lighting don't do it justice.
Yes, maybe it did not photograph well. It just seems that seatback is poorly constructed and dash is terribly cheap. (Nothing negative to say about your photography- I am BIG BIG fan of your site and technique- LOVE your channel!!!)
Have you even seen a Peugeot ? Your comments are ridiculous.