Man... you have the hands of a surgeon, the patience of Job, and the bravery of a tightrope walker! If I HAD the knowledge and those skills I would be afraid of ruining the board and components! Those are some skills you have there, my friend! BRAVO! Love the vids. 👍
These are hands down my favorite kinds of videos to watch on RUclips. I really enjoy seeing the in-depth upgrading of something that initially didn't have the best specs change to something better.
Very likely masses of them It's not just M Mini's It's any Mac with a Tx processor If you buy one online and it's locked, who's going to give you their iCloud pasword to unlock it ? You'd have access to their whole account !
@@Wannes_ The iCloud account holder can remove the activation lock from their account without having the machine in front of them and without giving you their details. However if it was stolen, that's definitely not going to happen, and if it was e-wasted, it probably isn't going to happen.
i have thought the same he really did that very well he also fixes 8600m gt macbook logic boards that have failed with the g84-603-a2 gpu chip I do own such an revised gpu laptop
Last time I checked most people don't store their macmini logic boards in their back pockets :D Underfill is basically unnecessary on stationary computers.
This is a very well done repair. I find it interesting too that the board was able to boot with one of the NAND chips missing, I would have thought that the absence of one or the other would cause it to not POST.
Awesome! WIth a video guide like this, anyone can do it. Congrats. I might give it a shot on my M2 Pro but I have some DYI home user questions: 1 - Is the process identical? 2 - What is the reference of 1GB and 2 GB NANDS for it? 2 - Do the reballing stencils come together with the NANDS? 3 - What decent affordable heat gun should I get? Thank you
@@OscarTroya Assuming you currently have 2TB or less installed, you’ll need to source a second NAND module in order to achieve an 8TB upgrade. They can be hard to find, but a friend of mine is working on a custom one, and expects to be done with it in a few months. I can indeed do the upgrade for you once the second NAND module is sourced.
How did he align the second nand so perfectly? For the fist one he had the goo that was removed to go on. I assume you can't be off more than a fraction of a millimeter. I think I would have needed to make some sort of L-shaped ridge to get it right. Or at least draw a pencil outline.
Capillary action is an amazing thing. If you look it up, you’ll be amazed how soldering components and capillary action go hand in hand to make a perfect solder. You see the process in action with the first NAND falling into place after being heated up. Science is pretty sweet!
@@learnitalready thanks! I had a hunch it would be that, although I had forgotten it was called capillary action. To me it is called the water vs mercury thing :) Cohesive / adhesive if I remember it right. So solder loves to be in the right spot. Got it! Thank you.
Do you have tried to implement maybe 64GB RAM into a iPad? To test, if a iPad could handle that? If yes. maybe this could be a hint, that a iPad could handle a "small macOS version" ...
Don't need 64GB for that, it absolutely could technically handle a regular macOS install purely by its hardware specifications as is (think of all the older MacBooks with only 4 or 8GB RAM running macOS), but that would mean competition with their own laptop market
Hey dude, I quite enjoy your videos. I am hoping to refine my skills and be at that level one day. I was wondering if you have ever tinkered with an Apple TV. Specifically the 4k Apple TVs that brick with updates and have no physical usb port to restore them. Would be great to find a solution for those.
A few reasons... A, the chips needed can't be bought anywhere, B, actually removing the chips from the SoC is practically impossible, due to the bonding material used (not the same as normal underfill), and C, the RAM config data is likely fused into SoC, and cannot be changed. So unfortunately, the RAM cannot be upgraded.
@@sir.fender6034I thought it was alibaba, I remember that using preexisting nands with crap on them failed (hence why that mac studio upgrade was a bust) vs fresh unused nands
You are amazing 👍 I feel bad just using my Mac Mini m1 knowing one day the storage could die, thinking about it writing all the time when using Logic Pro and this is what it will take to get it back 😢 enough to just use Reaper on the PC! same with my iPad but at least that’s almost cheap enough to replace!
Common sense would’ve been to remove the melted connector first and keep it aside safe, then at the end solder that to the one missing it… just saying. Good work and well done!👍
You mentioned easier to use power button pins on the other side. Do you maybe have some source showing them? Using mini with a KVM would be great if soldering to the actual power button wasn't needed.
There is something that just feels wrong about doing a dfu restore with a mac mini.. lol I get how it works but after years doing it the old way on Mac's and only using dfu mode with iPhones and ipads..
You said in the video you think you know what the tiny BGA chip is. Would you please say what you think it is? Purely curiosity, not because I need it. I don't own an M series device.
@@dosdude1 Thank you very much for the info. I am just trying to find the prices for the NANDs and LPDDRX5-7500 RAM to see how much would they cost versus just normal fast DDR5 memory.
Hi Collin, I suspect that somewhere on the motherboard of the mac mini M1 and M2, there are soldering points very close to the original SSD, which can accept the connection of an NVMe SSD adapter. Here's a suggestion, do you accept the challenge?
dosdude1 I have a question please. The other day I saw your video where you swapped 8th worth of storage into a mac studio (the takeaway was that you MUST use a new chip so that the DMG more can set it up) does that go for the macmini as well where you simply need to swap a new chip?
Now I'm so curious which one of Action Retro's projects this was from - did he mention this broken board in any of his videos? Or is this technically "behind the scenes" content? 😂
@@dosdude1I thought it looked familiar! Good to know that there are power button pads exposed on the top - should help other people trying the same build. Thanks for the video ✌️
Do you think it would be possible to mount an M2 mac mini board into a 2018 mac mini enclosure? I can't handle the silver of the current enclosure. Like they say, once you go black... Anyway, great job repairing and upgrading this unit, I'm sure Sean will get some good use out of it.
Yes, should be possible, though the board couldn’t be screwed into the chassis and the two rear fan screws couldn’t be used. You’d also need to transfer the power LED assembly from the original chassis into the 2018 chassis, along with the power supply.
@@dosdude1 Awesome! I probably won't try it on my working 2018 mini or a brand new M2, so I'll go looking for second-hand models to try out the swap on. Thanks!
I did something similar on an iPhone years ago. I seem to remember having to read the old nand and program the new one with things like the serial and Bluetooth Mac. Why didn't you have to do that here? Is this process unique to the iPhone? Thanks for posting these videos
You can’t do that, as the firmware programmed onto the NAND is telling the system that it’s the only NAND installed. Simply adding a second one will cause ANS2 to panic which will of course cause the restore to fail.
board space and cost. It's just pennies per unit, but every company's management is under intense pressure by shareholders to keep returning record corporate profits. So even though we're talking shorter lifespan, too bad. Lenovo does this now too. The only way to protect your right to repair and upgrade is with legislation (which is damn difficult, even. if the EU demanded it)
Is it possible for a setup like Collin's to be able to physically upgrade/swap RAM chips? If so, is the only thing holding an upgrade like that back the complete lack of documentation for what kind of resistors to change for it to register properly?
I'm guessing adding higher ram would be the same process. I would have offered him that since 16gb is fine but 8gb is to low if you are wanting to use the machine to its protentional.
Hello Colin, i will say thank you for your Great Job on RUclips. I will Upgrade a MacBook Air M2 2022 A2681 EMC4074 from 512GB NAND Flash Storage to 1TB. Can you give me advice, where i can buy such NAND?
Looks like it. But he's drawing on prior experience where he probably had to repair mistakes to get the technique down (would love to see those vids... I'm too afraid to try stuff like this, even owning a heat gun)
this is very much useful video even i have mac mini m2 and want to upgrade as well. Can you suggest me the website for finding nand storage online on cheaper for my mac mini
This modern Mac Mini can't handle Action Retro's "shenanigans" 😂
He called his soldering "janky" in the iMac G4 video - sometimes jank do be killing boards 🙃
More like crimes against humanity
Action Retro can’t handle an orgasm without shame and guilt 🫃🏻 such soy
Dude has such a good “radio voice” for narration
So video didn’t kill the radio star after all.
just admit it you pleasure yourself to his voice
asmr king
@@TinCole yes........
@@mai-deum3731 real
mad skills. solder surgeon.
He even looks like Shaun from Good Doctor 😂
Man... you have the hands of a surgeon, the patience of Job, and the bravery of a tightrope walker! If I HAD the knowledge and those skills I would be afraid of ruining the board and components!
Those are some skills you have there, my friend!
BRAVO! Love the vids. 👍
These are hands down my favorite kinds of videos to watch on RUclips. I really enjoy seeing the in-depth upgrading of something that initially didn't have the best specs change to something better.
Apple is watching you! Great video!
These are the most harmless things Apple can see))
Icloud lock for a mac mini is insane. Good for sales though. How many of these are gonna go to a landfill while being perfectly functional.
Very likely masses of them
It's not just M Mini's
It's any Mac with a Tx processor
If you buy one online and it's locked, who's going to give you their iCloud pasword to unlock it ?
You'd have access to their whole account !
@@Wannes_ The iCloud account holder can remove the activation lock from their account without having the machine in front of them and without giving you their details. However if it was stolen, that's definitely not going to happen, and if it was e-wasted, it probably isn't going to happen.
You make that look so easy. Amazing work!
Of course the Mac chime is too iconic
Love Apple, hate the chime. Makes it impossible to do certain types of work late at night (wakes people).
@ you can disable ir as theirs videos on how to enable it
getting rid of the "ESG" solder is always a good idea lead leads to good results :P
Bravo! You did a great job aligning those BGA chips while there was no outline to guide you.
i have thought the same he really did that very well he also fixes 8600m gt macbook logic boards that have failed with the g84-603-a2 gpu chip I do own such an revised gpu laptop
All of my jank laid bare 😂😅
Hey, at least it wasn’t hard to fix haha.
Can't wait to see the followup video from your side!
Would have loved to see HDD speed test before and after.
20:22 there's no concern that they might have issues in the future without any underfill?
Last time I checked most people don't store their macmini logic boards in their back pockets :D Underfill is basically unnecessary on stationary computers.
The wizard does it again
Amazing soldering skills...being doing this since 87, SMD is also fine...but never BGAs....and not during the past 5-6 years, honestly.
I wish I had your tools and talent. Love watching your vids. Thanks!!
How do you stop all of those passives on the reverse from just dropping off into that grate underneath?
This is a very well done repair. I find it interesting too that the board was able to boot with one of the NAND chips missing, I would have thought that the absence of one or the other would cause it to not POST.
This is insane, thank you for your work! Keep it up
I just started watching the video, but I already know you will do an amazing job as always!!! Keep it going!! Cheers!! 🍾 🥂
Awesome! WIth a video guide like this, anyone can do it. Congrats.
I might give it a shot on my M2 Pro but I have some DYI home user questions:
1 - Is the process identical?
2 - What is the reference of 1GB and 2 GB NANDS for it?
2 - Do the reballing stencils come together with the NANDS?
3 - What decent affordable heat gun should I get?
Thank you
Well done Collin
Good work on this one Dude. Is there any hope for the same upgrade for Mac Studios?
Yep, doable on Mac Studio as well. Up to 8TB with two of those removable NAND modules.
@@dosdude1 would looooove to have this done on my Mac Studio.
@@OscarTroya Assuming you currently have 2TB or less installed, you’ll need to source a second NAND module in order to achieve an 8TB upgrade. They can be hard to find, but a friend of mine is working on a custom one, and expects to be done with it in a few months. I can indeed do the upgrade for you once the second NAND module is sourced.
How did he align the second nand so perfectly? For the fist one he had the goo that was removed to go on. I assume you can't be off more than a fraction of a millimeter. I think I would have needed to make some sort of L-shaped ridge to get it right. Or at least draw a pencil outline.
That was my thought as well, without outline he aligned them perfectly
Capillary action is an amazing thing. If you look it up, you’ll be amazed how soldering components and capillary action go hand in hand to make a perfect solder. You see the process in action with the first NAND falling into place after being heated up. Science is pretty sweet!
@@learnitalready thanks! I had a hunch it would be that, although I had forgotten it was called capillary action. To me it is called the water vs mercury thing :) Cohesive / adhesive if I remember it right. So solder loves to be in the right spot. Got it! Thank you.
Do you have tried to implement maybe 64GB RAM into a iPad? To test, if a iPad could handle that? If yes. maybe this could be a hint, that a iPad could handle a "small macOS version" ...
Don't need 64GB for that, it absolutely could technically handle a regular macOS install purely by its hardware specifications as is (think of all the older MacBooks with only 4 or 8GB RAM running macOS), but that would mean competition with their own laptop market
@@resneptacleHis idea is a good experiment never the less
M1 ipad could handle macOS just fine, it's just Apple saying no
Impressive repair!
Hey dude, I quite enjoy your videos. I am hoping to refine my skills and be at that level one day. I was wondering if you have ever tinkered with an Apple TV. Specifically the 4k Apple TVs that brick with updates and have no physical usb port to restore them. Would be great to find a solution for those.
Dosdude is a genius.
Man, I want to learn how to do this. This seems so cool to learn.
I have a M2 Mac Mini that has a fan that's making a very concerning grinding noise.
Out of curiosity, other than impracticality, difficulty and possible parts, what stops you from doing a ram upgrade?
A few reasons... A, the chips needed can't be bought anywhere, B, actually removing the chips from the SoC is practically impossible, due to the bonding material used (not the same as normal underfill), and C, the RAM config data is likely fused into SoC, and cannot be changed. So unfortunately, the RAM cannot be upgraded.
The DFU mode is handy I was not aware that was possible in my recent Macbook Air repair video where I installed the OS via USB on a broken screen. 😅
Where are you getting the compatible NAND chips?
He is getting them from donor boards off EBay and recycling centers
@@sir.fender6034I thought it was alibaba, I remember that using preexisting nands with crap on them failed (hence why that mac studio upgrade was a bust) vs fresh unused nands
You are amazing 👍 I feel bad just using my Mac Mini m1 knowing one day the storage could die, thinking about it writing all the time when using Logic Pro and this is what it will take to get it back 😢 enough to just use Reaper on the PC! same with my iPad but at least that’s almost cheap enough to replace!
Dude, you rock!!
Common sense would’ve been to remove the melted connector first and keep it aside safe, then at the end solder that to the one missing it… just saying.
Good work and well done!👍
If I didn't have over 100 of those connectors on-hand to use... I would have saved it.
How about ram upgrade for this machine? and damn that's cool!
You mentioned easier to use power button pins on the other side. Do you maybe have some source showing them? Using mini with a KVM would be great if soldering to the actual power button wasn't needed.
If you look at the board on the side closest to where the power supply sits, it's the two pads closest to the rear ports of the board.
Hope this is possible to do on my m3 pro MacBook pro it's the 512gb version its fine for now but would like to upgrade it when its out of warranty
I love it. You toke a big bite out of corporate America. That little memory would have cost $1000’s.
Man, It'd be nice to have schematics for these boards and a way to obtain the Intercell power chips for macbooks
Well done sir !
Any suggestions for aftermarket internal speakers for 2012 macbook pro 15"?
You're the man! 👍
There is something that just feels wrong about doing a dfu restore with a mac mini.. lol I get how it works but after years doing it the old way on Mac's and only using dfu mode with iPhones and ipads..
Well saved!👍👍
I'm surprised that you did not upgrade the ram., as well.
As always great job! nice.
You said in the video you think you know what the tiny BGA chip is. Would you please say what you think it is? Purely curiosity, not because I need it. I don't own an M series device.
Can you convert it to DC 12V? and maybe add a battery instead of the power supply
Yeah, the power supply in these is nothing more than a 12V power supply. So as long as you can supply it 12v, it’ll work.
I believe when IC's have 4 pins onm the bottom it's not enough to count as being a BGA-package but rather a WLCSP (Wafer-Level Chip-scale-package) :)
The 2TB bga315 nands appear to be super scarce. Plenty of 1TB nands to be had on aliexpress, though.
The number of passives on the Apple devices seem so crazy to me. Do they use more than other computer makers? Why?
Thank you. You are master at this.
Is it possible to know the price of the NANDs that you installed? Or at least where the price can be found. Thanks
Price is around $130 for the two NANDs.
@@dosdude1 Thank you very much for the info.
I am just trying to find the prices for the NANDs and LPDDRX5-7500 RAM to see how much would they cost versus just normal fast DDR5 memory.
Hi Collin, I suspect that somewhere on the motherboard of the mac mini M1 and M2, there are soldering points very close to the original SSD, which can accept the connection of an NVMe SSD adapter. Here's a suggestion, do you accept the challenge?
How come you didn't upgrade the memory at the same time? I assume it is soldered on motherboard like storage.
Good vid and fun to watch
can u do more like these?
What is "flux" ? Is it used to isolate the soldered balls?
when you upgraded SSD you also bypassed the user/pass that was on the device ?
No, T2 chip stores it
dosdude1 I have a question please. The other day I saw your video where you swapped 8th worth of storage into a mac studio (the takeaway was that you MUST use a new chip so that the DMG more can set it up) does that go for the macmini as well where you simply need to swap a new chip?
Great job!
Now I'm so curious which one of Action Retro's projects this was from - did he mention this broken board in any of his videos? Or is this technically "behind the scenes" content? 😂
I think this was used in the JuicyCrumb 20" iMac G4 mod video.
@@dosdude1I thought it looked familiar! Good to know that there are power button pads exposed on the top - should help other people trying the same build. Thanks for the video ✌️
Do you think it would be possible to mount an M2 mac mini board into a 2018 mac mini enclosure? I can't handle the silver of the current enclosure. Like they say, once you go black...
Anyway, great job repairing and upgrading this unit, I'm sure Sean will get some good use out of it.
Yes, should be possible, though the board couldn’t be screwed into the chassis and the two rear fan screws couldn’t be used. You’d also need to transfer the power LED assembly from the original chassis into the 2018 chassis, along with the power supply.
@@dosdude1 Awesome! I probably won't try it on my working 2018 mini or a brand new M2, so I'll go looking for second-hand models to try out the swap on. Thanks!
Maybe a weird/stupid question but is it also possible to use both of the chips in a raid1 like configuration?
I did something similar on an iPhone years ago. I seem to remember having to read the old nand and program the new one with things like the serial and Bluetooth Mac. Why didn't you have to do that here? Is this process unique to the iPhone? Thanks for posting these videos
Pretty sure you don't need to do that on a blank NAND as restoring the firmware in DFU will automatically program them.
6 views in 1 minute, bro fell off
jk love your videos haha the Dev Transitioning Kit was the most impressive i’ve seen in a while
As a fellow repairer of Sean's (mis)adventures, yours was way more impressive!
Could you have avoided melting that connector if you put a piece of foil shiny side up over it?
where did you got the extra nanny storage chips, which ones are compatible?
That is my question as well?
this channel is crzy❤
have you ever tryed to just add a secundary nand? do they have to be identical or would it work with two different sizes?
You can’t do that, as the firmware programmed onto the NAND is telling the system that it’s the only NAND installed. Simply adding a second one will cause ANS2 to panic which will of course cause the restore to fail.
Doh, no silkscreen to line-up the chips. I would 3D print a guide to line up with the pads and have a border you can draw around.
Do you think you could handle upgrading ram on those Apple M chips?
This was from the imac g4 conversion video, correct?
Yep!
Juicy Crumb is not responsible for any damage caused by mistakes caused during Mac mini retrofits 😅🤣
How long until you figure out how to upgrade the RAM on the SoC?
Is there a reason why NAND can't be a socketed chip? I Googled this question but not a lot came back
board space and cost. It's just pennies per unit, but every company's management is under intense pressure by shareholders to keep returning record corporate profits. So even though we're talking shorter lifespan, too bad. Lenovo does this now too.
The only way to protect your right to repair and upgrade is with legislation (which is damn difficult, even. if the EU demanded it)
Where do you get replacement nand chips for these?
Is it possible for a setup like Collin's to be able to physically upgrade/swap RAM chips?
If so, is the only thing holding an upgrade like that back the complete lack of documentation for what kind of resistors to change for it to register properly?
Do the M2 Pro Mac minis that can be configured to up to 8 TB instead of 2 TB max have more space for additional NAND chips to get there?
Yes, they support up to 8 NAND chips.
@@dosdude1 Thanks for the clarification!
i guess it doesnt let you cooy the old drive data over to the new chips?
hello, how much do you charge for this?
Cool, next you should do the ssd upgrade on an iPad Pro.
I'm guessing adding higher ram would be the same process. I would have offered him that since 16gb is fine but 8gb is to low if you are wanting to use the machine to its protentional.
nice projekt :)
Do you offer this SSD upgrade for MacBook Air M1 in your repair shop?
Well done i wish you could upgrade the memory on my MacBook m2 air
You cant upgrade the ram because it's built into the m2 processor
what is the price of fixing such mac problem ? and what is the price of upgrading ?
Great stuff, too bad it only has "16gb of equivalent windows ram". Thank you apple for your generosity!!
what is that wifi dongle?? :)
hello, can you please paste the link where you bought the land chips, thankss
Hello Colin, i will say thank you for your Great Job on RUclips. I will Upgrade a MacBook Air M2 2022 A2681 EMC4074 from 512GB NAND Flash Storage to 1TB. Can you give me advice, where i can buy such NAND?
Does it mean it is also possible to upgrade 256gb m2 air to 2Tb?
It indeed does. I’ve done that upgrade a few times.
Are the batteries removed or not fitted?
May I know, what is the max ram and max storage upgrade that can be done on a Macbook Air M1?
i was wondering is pga mod possible on 2008 macbook a1181
Can you upgrade RAM as well?
How do you know when the pads are perfectly aligned to heat them up if you can't see the position of them? You just go for it or...?
Looks like it. But he's drawing on prior experience where he probably had to repair mistakes to get the technique down (would love to see those vids... I'm too afraid to try stuff like this, even owning a heat gun)
Good mythical morning
this is very much useful video even i have mac mini m2 and want to upgrade as well. Can you suggest me the website for finding nand storage online on cheaper for my mac mini
Off-topic question does the antiglare display on a 15 inch MacBook Pro work on the late 2008 15 inch MacBook Pro