Gotway MsuperX 1000km Video Review
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- It's been a while, but it's finally here, Ian hits 1000km on the Gotway MSuper X.
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Great review Ian,
I’ve clocked up 265km on mine in the last week or so, I absolutely love it.
It’s got much more power than you could ever need, it’s also great on inclines, stairs, off-road, as you said.
Riding this wheel has fulfilled all the expectations I had from when I first saw an electric unicycle.
I would recommend it to anyone, and I regularly do. With that, I also recommend buying sufficient armour for safe riding. Armoured vest, helmet, wrist guards and knee pads. That gives you so much confidence when riding too. And with the power of this wheel, it’s pretty much a necessity.
Thanks again for all the great info and after purchase customer service.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Glad you are enjoying it! Yes armour a MUST!
PS - those looking for the armour I am wearing - see: www.speedyfeet.co.uk/collections/clothing-safety-protection/products/flex-force-pro-top-full-armour
I wish I had spent 600 more dollars and gotten the MSX instead of the v10. I like the V10 but it’s kind of underwhelming.
therealestmc85 yeah I hear you. I was afraid of the same thing. My previous wheel was a Ninebot One, which is quite limited once you know what you’re doing. I wanted to make sure my next wheel didn’t leave me wanting more.
I was actually holding out for the Z10, mostly because it looks so damn good. But after reading some of the negatives, plus the Z10 basically doesn’t lean over when banking around bends etc. I decided to just go for the MSX. Soooo glad I did, I literally can’t leave the thing alone 😂
I’m finding any excuse to get out and rip forest trails or commute to neighbouring towns etc.
Just done a 45km trip, flat out all the way, amazing.
How does it do against Z10?
Marko Niksic I haven’t tried the Z10 myself, have watched a shit load of reviews. The MSX is faster, and by the looks of it, better handling too. The high pedals really make a difference when off-road.
There's no doubt that the MSX has been the best received wheel that Gotway has made. A true tank. Nice summation :-)
Summation😊 can you suggest some euc apps for android phones please..?
@@rcpete7055 There's really only one worth considering: WheelLog, available from the PlayStore
I'm waiting for mine to arrive (I'm a complete newbie to this). After all you guys have basically given it such a glowing review I couldn't resist. I've been waiting a year to see how the technology has changed and a chap from Austin Texas gave the Gotway a glowing review back then. It looks like the company got it right. I don't really want a boom box on a wheel either. I look at the utilitarian POV and want something that will last and not go obsolete quickly. Music and the like is easy to add with a pair of earbuds/headphones/pocket speaker. Most of the time I like quiet and love to enjoy the surroundings. Would welcome others thoughts. Would also like to know which forums to join. Looking forward to sharing stories !!!
@@pentachronic Congrat's on your upcoming first wheel. Exciting times ahead for you. There where I spend a lot of time: forum.electricunicycle.org/
Hey Marty! Check out the video below, I have similar problem, if you can tell me what’s wrong with it! Thank you
ruclips.net/video/UH4BQnC0Yfw/видео.html
Also as a computer nerd I appreciate the 1337 length of the video 🤘👾
The Kingsong KS18XL is the best wheel in my opinion. Better trolley handle - better looking - better carving & the replacement panels are much cheaper than the panels in the MSX. If you just want speed & range then go for the 100v MSX.
Yeah not as robust though, they almost fixed it on gen3 inner shell design change...but still not quite there. Nice looking wheel though!
18XL is just awesome... I got nearly 2500km on mine and still riding 30mph all the time like it was fresh one.
80kg bw and I can do 70+km no problem, pretty hilly terrain here though... Love it.
Richard Šulc Jon has hit 1000km on his, review coming SOOON!
The handle isn’t that big of a deal once you get used to it. For me the biggest concern when it comes to wheels is comfortability and stability at top speed. I have my high end boards for carving. I use my wheels mainly as a transportation vehicle. The Kingsong 18XL seems like a pretty sweet ride and is fast enough as well.
I did over 3000km on mine. Love it! Haven't put it through much abuse other than hitting ~32mph every now and then. Great wheel!
Hopefully they'll eventually get one with the power of the 100v and the range of the 84v wheel all in one package. Sometimes with a little tail wind I don't realize I'm getting near the cutout speed until I hear the beeps. Never wear a helmet that blocks your hearing. For that reason, it's actually more dangerous than not having one at all. I highly recommend the bell super 3r helmet for that reason.
It's Binh Repaired completely agree regarding the helmet, it’s the whole reason I didn’t go full face. It can already be an issue hearing if it’s windy enough. 👍
@@neilio666666 there's no issue with the bell super 3r helmet :) it has the option to remove the chin guard, but never found the need to.
This review is an absolute perfect. No doubts about that. Spot on, you with the reviewing and the euc with its performance, thanks for the quality that you provide guys
Thanks for following along, glad you liked the video!
It's the perfect euc on the market at the moment, imho
The GotWay msx is a beast so much power that it’ll vibrate u right off the foot pedals.Being I ride bmx also i figure y not screw metal studs on the foot pedals.The best decision ever,wet shoes stick like glue on the metal studs.
I have to say, the build quality of my KS18XL is truly impressive. It's taken some truly nasty falls (bouncing waist high half dozen times), and aside from some scratches, no cracks or damage whatsoever. It really is a very well built wheel, and isholding up wonderfully after 800 km of abuse. My only gripes are the terrible BT module and horrible lift sensor (1st batch, I hear that has since been corrected). And the overheating... GW appears to do a much better job at keeping their wheels running cool. But still, a truly impressive wheel. From what I've seen if the Electric Games held in France just recently, at least 80% of all wheels were MSXs or 18XLs. The Top wheels out there, IMHO. The only things that tipped the scale when deciding between an MSX and an 18XL was KS's reputation for build quality, the great mileage and the pedals (am not a fan of GW's angled pedals, and the 18XL's XL pedals are a game-changer!) , but if I were to go back in time, I'd be hard pressed to choose one over the other. Either way, I love the MSX v. 18XL rivalry, it keeps tur manufacturers on edge and striving to improve and innovate (as seen with the 16X and Nikola). Great review, keep up the good work! 😁
Cheers dude! Glad you are getting on well with yours!
Brilliant review Ian, you have said it all, there is no other big wheel to touch it. Is a great all rounder.
Hey Ian, I agree with all your positives and negatives, I'd like to add a couple though. I owned, sold and had ridden my MSX 1500 miles. I was riding a ton in the city and surrounding residential areas. Like 35 to 45 miles a day. So couple things I noticed. I'm 5'5 and constantly getting off and on the wheel would get tiring sometimes because of the pedal height/angle. So at a stop light it was like one leg was straight and the other was scrunched on the pedal and would get uncomfortable after a while. Also braking on the MSX feels sort of loose/weak especially around the lower speeds and can feel sketchy. So I used the handle to pull back on to enhance braking power, not sure if you've ever done that? Other that that again it is a BEAST and awesome and feels super planted and confidence inspiring! Anyway nice review!
Any falls? How the shell hold up? I have an v3 and that she'll is a tank shell...my shell with the msx is probably awesome. Thanks. Eager to hear your opinion on shell resilience
Hey tbh it held up great! Really no issues with durability. I really never dropped it on concrete though or that many times period. I know people that did though and they didn't seem to have any issues what so ever Only thing I'd say is the petals were wearing a little quicker than I like. The rubber was starting to rub off and the grip tape was starting to come off in certain corners a little bit, not major but annoying.
@@Mpower31 I appreciate
Did you say that you sold your MSX already?
@@pioneer7777777 yup
Great review Ian
OMG that fall at the start 🥴😮😂
Tell me about it, its always nice when you can walk away ha ha
Great review and spot on.
I'm on 500km with no problems at all on my MsuperX. Don't do all the jumping stuff - so mine looks pretty brand new still.
With about 50/50 on track & road.
Agree - on this machine you do need to wear the armoured vest, knee, wrist and helmet etc
Fantastic all round machine.
Question though - Did/have you re-calibrated your machine after the falls?
Awesome, glad you are getting on with it! No, have never calibrated it.
Tony it looks like you're a PPG guy as well as an EUC guy. I was looking into PPG but I decided to wait. EUC is on order and my first step to levitation !!
@@pentachronic - Sorry Gazza, but flying does not touch wheeling around on a EUC. Some guys use them at Fly-ins when it's too windy. Good fun, but you must choose Paramotoring. Once you look up to the skies - you will never look down again. I guess you have checked out "Tucker Gott' YT channel, if not, then watch him fly.
EUC'ing is secondary to paramotoring.
Take care though.
Tony, yes I've looked at all the PPG stuff. Have read the PPG bible, have discussed with many. Would love to do it but finances are not good enough at this point. Looks like a blast though. Maybe next year...
i ride mine to work every day, everyone loves it even the police have been ok. done over 600miles on it and not had any major problems other then the case squeaks a bit when first getting on. It keeps up with traffic too, still use my v5f though as its a bit more fun.
I have a feeling that the politicians will want their Tax cut from these wheels, so it's only a matter of time they will require registration, licenses, etc...... And people have been riding them crazy on the busy city roads too. I can imagine that would irritate some drivers
@@WTF_BBQ Drivers love them, iv never had a problem from drivers they all give me thumbs up and are amazed how it works. They ask where they can get one. Most of them even give me right of way, in fact, iv had a better experience on a unicycle then i ever have on a motorbike pushbike or car! Iv met loads of new people just from drivers and passers by.
But i know what you mean about politicions.
Won't happen. Electric Bicycles don't pay taxes so why would a unicycle ?
Amazing video as usual Ian. Great wheel. Thanks!!!!!!
I can't really choose between this and the Inmotion v10. I'm not sure if I would use this speed.
Brilliant opening to the Video glad you kept it in New Sub.
Cheers! Welcome aboard!
I just bought one. It's my first EUC. I'm so amp'd!
The Token Survivor any update?
@@Deuce_Allan Well, I've been riding it for almost two months now and it's the funnest thing I've ever done. People pay more for vacations, so I think two to three years of fun is well worth the price.
The Token Survivor awesome, thanks. I am looking to pull the trigger on buying but don’t really want to buy one just to learn on. I have a lot of experience with skateboarding, rollerblading/ice-skating and snowboarding so I’m hoping it’s a fairly smooth transition? I’m also 6-1 and 220 pounds so I want to get the most able machine for myself, looking forward to hearing more about when the king song 18 S is released with the shock
@@Deuce_Allan Well, it took me a month of daily practice before I was stable enough to ride on the streets around cars. Most people don't take that long, but you should be prepared to dedicate yourself to a period of daily training.
I just got one. It's shipping on Monday...
And ??? Mine's on order.. 😁
Lol, who gave dislike already when video was only up 8 mins ago... Surely you guys upset someone already? :)... This is definitely LIKE button from me :)
We think its a bot, typically we get 2 within seconds of a video going live. Glad you like the video! I am sure many more likes will follow far outweighing the measly dislike score. :)
@@Speedyfeetuk world is full of haters but it's minority definitely... Keep up good job, Ian :)
Someone that hates EUCs lol
One of the wonders I been having is the shell resilience esp compared to the monster. ..bc I been considering the monster as well. Its obvious the performance🖒Any counsel on this would be appreciated. Thanks
An advice, Silicone spray is a really bad idea on a wheel, because:
1. It will make it hard/impossible to repaint (paint don't stick on silicone)
2. You will not be able to use adhesive tape on it if you for example want to add reflexes, jump cushions or likewise
3. It will soak up more dust due to the fat surface.
4. If user decided to remove shin cushions and there is silicone on the body, it will be more slippery = give less control
I understand you want to make it look good when selling, but a wash with water and soap is much more honest to the buyer. Silicone is more of a dishonest car dealer touch up thing and that's not You ;-)
Love the bunny hops
I would love to see a comparison between the MSX and the 18 XL. Especially riding comfort and climbing.
As long as no log jumping, it’s on our list...unless you want to sponsor a KS18XL shell set 😉🤪
@@Speedyfeetuk Mine dissolves too :D
Will it be nice to get Average mile to full charge battery since you review it I never heard anything like that it will be a good addition to review
seems like you have a wheel alignment issue you didnt mention or perhaps dont know about. at 10:30 you can see that you cant see through the wheel on the right side like you cant on the left side.
Oh I noticed, I don’t miss a lot when it comes to wheels 😁. It’s no issue though (as apparent by the 1000km+ travelled. It’s just a spacer on one of the body panels.
I think the MSX is a proper beast. But I definitely think the Tesla is better for road riding. Has more torque with a smaller wheel. Love my Tesla and probably would still have it over a MSX. For off roading it’s hopeless though. Footplates are too low and hit pretty much everything apart from gravel 😂😂.
Low footplates are a pain for off-roading for sure! Mario has the same issue with the MCM5 when we did trail riding. Kept hitting all the rocks! (See ruclips.net/video/qGcdQddq3_k/видео.html).
How far have you ridden the MSX on the road?
Can you please suggest some euc apps for android phones..?
Can anyone help please as I do not enjoy the gotway app..
Euc world
What does the sports/medium/lesiure modes do for the MSX?
Makes it a little less responsive so that when you hit bumps and stuff, it has a slightly delayed acceleration so you don't feel it as much. Similar feel to lowering the tire pressure. Try them out and see for yourself.
I didn’t understood a single word you said haha 🤣
That’s a shame, it’s a great review. Mind you the footage is great as well so still enjoyable.
what is the expected life time mileage for an ECU? i would like to get one to commute but i would be doing 40km a day. So that would probably 9000km a year! could you expect an ECU to last than long?
It’s hard to say really, batteries would be the point to go first (if the control board held up ok - if you looked after the machine by not going flat out every where). If you had a Monster - 2400wh, after 9000km you might see a 30% loss of range. It does ~60 miles per charge. So it would probably give you 2-3 years of riding.
I would recommend then replacing the control board yearly (~£150), just for safety.
Hello Ian,These are still available on ebay at £1300 odd quid. I believe they were fazed out to make room for the MSP in the high speed/high torque versions. The MSP is going for around £1800 quid at Speedy Feet. Im not having a dig at your pricing, or trying to poison your well in any way I think you are a top guy and I love what you do, but are thier significant upgrades to the MSP you are stocking as opposed to the MSX still selling from the Netherlands? Are there any inherrent problems with the MSX like weak MOSSFETTS or faulty control boards that preceded the companies decision to ditch it and go with the MSP?
Bryan Johnson they stopped the MSX quite some months ago now, so these must be fairly old stock, so perhaps they just want to clear them so the can get latest models? We havent sold an MSX for a long time. No real issue with that, but it would explain the price slash.
Would you get on with an MSX, absolutely - its a brilliant wheel.
@@Speedyfeetuk Frankly id rather send my business to you. Is there major advantages in buying an MSP over an old stock msx? What improvments were made?
Hello . I wanna ask you please after all this experience of riding what’s your best monawheel at the moment . For me v10f and you
You're making me think I should cancel my ks16x order and get this instead. Commuting and off roading.
The best I think first to try boath wheels before paying for something that can bring a light shadow of regret.
Adam Hilliker wait until we do the review on the KS16X before you do something rash...it might be awesome! 😎
Dose it count how many km it dose
It does yes, stored on the control board.
Which wheel do you ride the most? Please
How often did you ride this in the rain?
Hi, how about rain? any water damage?
Not had any water damage in the last 12 months / 2000km, dont forget to sign up to the community www.ElectricPeople.org!
It's 100v 1230wh or 84v 1600wh
84v 1600wh
What is the difference between the 84v and 100v models? Range? Speed? Acceleration? I haven't even gotten my first wheel yet, and I'm already thinking about this for the second, LOL!
I ride 100v and it's purely for speed.. Hit 66.9 kph, my max speed I have ever hit... I clocked over 2500km already so far... Hitting over 60 kph is like normal thing with MSX 100V but if you are not speed person then get 84V for longer range
@@sby1076 Wow! That's insane! Hope you have some really sturdy protective gear! I've pretty much decided the V10F will be my first wheel. Just waiting for the right time to order it. Hopefully around this time next week if all goes well. Thanks for the reply!
The Flying Veteran bro I’ve just put 1800 miles in the last 3 months of having it, it is an awesome wheel but way too slow for my tastes and not enough batterrie given that I ride full speed from beginning to the end. Now I just got the 84v MSX, and It’s a totally different beast. I just love it and it my 2 day with it so far and been hitting 33/34 mph easy like it’s nothing!!!
i'm looking at a used Gotway MSX 100V 1230wh with 600 miles on it. what's the life expectancy under normal riding? is $1350 a fair price? is the tire worn at 600 miles?
Thx
Seems fair (if its in great condition) maybe shoot for $1200-$1250. Tire will do much more than 600 miles. Life of a wheel depends but around 3000+ miles should be no issue if looked after well (some of our customers are still going on at 5000)
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lol 00:05 so unlukcy...and so lucky ...was a close call.....
It sure was!
@@Speedyfeetuk Hi, just question with no link to this video, I just bought a v10, what pressure tire did u used when testing one ? Im 80kg and feel good with 2.0 bar, a lot of people seems to enjoy 2.8 bar for same weight, sounds like crazy for me, I tested 2.8 bar and it was so bumpy (jumpy)....
M@nµ I ride at 40psi. Did you get your V10 from us or elsewhere out of interest?
@@Speedyfeetuk I m french, I bought it form amazon.fr, on the inmotion official store, payment in 4 times was nice.
It seems that Im the kind of wheeler that prefer low pressure lol I remember that you are a bit heavier than me, 90kg ish, so for me it should be equivalent to 2.4bar 35psi, maybe 2.5bar. I have test at this pressureit was a lot better, but still a bit to much for my taste. Im just starting I will maybe change my mind, thanks for the answer, nice to you.
Have you ever wanted something sooo bad it hurts?
Ha ha
@@Speedyfeetuk LOL Curse you GOTWAY!