Why Homelander Is The Real Victim In “The Boys”
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2023
- In this thought-provoking video, we delve into the layers of Homelander's character in The Boys and challenge the conventional perception of him as a villain. Is it possible that beneath the superhero facade lies a character deserving of empathy? We explore Homelander's journey, examining his struggles, conflicts, and the circumstances that may cast him as an unexpected victim. Join us as we navigate the moral complexities of The Boys and reconsider the narrative surrounding this iconic character
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I don't think it's a bad take that Homelander is a victim, but saying he has no choice is ridiculous. He chooses to be a part of Vought and the Seven every day when he can just leave.
True. Or. He could just apologise to butcher for real, stop randomly murdering people and supes, and just, stop being evil, but he chooses not to.
Yep. Homelander even said it himself. "I can do whatever I want." He could choose to do some good but he won't. He's never shown an ounce of remorse or guilt for any of the things he's done. He never learn's from his mistakes either. In fact, he's hell-bent on hiding his mistakes from the public.
Its just his theory.
Well you need to think about what’s it’s like for the other guy, you’ve probably heard dozens of times that homelander just wants to be loved. Where else would homelander go to feel “loved” at? Family reunion? Keep in mind he was raised his entire childhood to be the most patriotic and loyal product of vought, he literally has nowhere to go. So no, he can’t just choose to leave vought through his eyes.
After everything he’s had to face and endure not only does he have choice’s you’re right; but with Vought he has options; clearly showing that what he told stormfront meant not only does the shows homelander have bigger plans but it also shows that his ego was increasing over time as he was planning to do a lot more when Edgar was around, so for him being the way he is; he can’t just pull an Annie and say “i fucking quit”. He now has the most power not only for what he’s had on the world itself, but he’s stronger than himself when he was in “the room”.
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You mean "Vought International", lol.
Another very interesting fact: In the last episode of the spin off series "Diabolical" (wich is confirmed canon by the director of the show) Despite EVERYTHING that had happened to him, Homelander did tried and was eager to be an actual Hero on the beggining of his career.
Stormfront didn't really care for Homelander that much, she wanted him to be something that when he himself didn't want to she ended herself, if she loved him she'd be okay with his choice and stayed around, so no she did not love him. No one loved him, and that's sad.
He didn't care for her either bro
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259liar.
@@mr_gourmetit was a toxic relationship on both sides. Homelander kept trying to get her to fear him and took out his massive insecurities on her and storm front tried to manipulate him
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 well he did like that she seemed to care
Yep...nobody loved Osama bin Laden too..that is also sad
I’m the real victim here. I had to watch him slurp down Stilwells milk
Nice try Vought employee but I stand with starlight
I don’t know what your talking about 👀
@@BetterCallSahly yeah that bitch who sucked deep to get promotion and than claimed that deep raped her
Starlight is a murderer like any other though lol.
I realized in season 3, Homelander doesn’t have a real name and never changes out of his suit. He is always a character and never himself.
Damn I never realized that but you’re right I’ve never seen him outside of the suit
You do see him naked in season 3 and then in season two you see “him” in lingerie. But other than that he’s always in the suit
His true name is John Gillman
he was seen half-naked so many times. The most iconic one is him masturbating in the sky .
Poor Bin Laden..he never get to shave his beard and never get to change out of his kutah...poor victim Bin Laden
He's a victim just like pretty much everyone else in that show. That doesn't discount what he's done.
One thing a lot of people don't bring up is all of the people he's saved. He's saved thousands of people and has the power to save thousands more.
He didn't save Teddy, Teddy can teleport. But I mean Butcher is the one that would have actually been a baby killer if Teddy hadn't teleported.
The show gives of the idea to make a parody to the real world in the realistic take of superheroes which is a very good example as you put out because he is indeed a victim since he was definitely been torment and not in the right mind, especially when evolves power corrupting him for being a powerful supe in the world, keep it up dude
This was a damn good essay. I think Homelander does deserve some sympathy, and he has done great things and saved thousands of people.
I hope Vought faces punishment for creating such an unstoppable monster.
I feel Butcher and the Boys will have to pay for siding with HL when they had the perfect chance to kill HL and bring down Vought.
Homelander being a victim of Vought doesn’t absolve him of all the evil he’s done in the slightest, the truth is Vought gave him a horrible childhood and in doing so made a monster, so he’s a victim but he’s without question evil and he’ll never change
Agreed. What happened to him sucked and he's definitely a victim in that regard, but having an awful childhood doesn't make it okay to turn into such a monster. Homelanders one of the most evil people in the show and has no desire to change, the fact that he's evil because he had it rough as a kid does nothing to justify or excuse his actions, and the fact that he has so much power and choice now but still chooses to sink deeper into depravity makes him pretty unsympathetic to me. You can't control your abuse, but you can control how you choose to handle it, and I don't have much sympathy for remorseless serial killers and rapists.
trauma isn't an excuse for rape and mass murder
YEP THAT'S WHAT I'AM FUCKING SAYING THE MAN WHO MADE THIS VIDEO WAS A FUCKING STUPID IDIOT
Nobody cares. We gonna keep licking Homelander's feet
@@thebemstar7636LMAOOOOO
homelander is what happens when you convince someone the evil they commit is acceptable, and never giving them any repercussions for anything. in this case tho homelander is the most powerful supe in the show, so there ain’t much that can be done to punish him. to the people saying that homelander could just leave vought, that’s very unlikely since his outlook and morals were shaped a while ago by those same people. vought gave a superiority complex and superior biology to him
Thank You!!! I tell this to people whenever we talk about it, homelander just needs or needed one person close to him to care for him, be honest with him and not be afraid of him.
Bro. If you met Homelander he probably would murder you for looking at him wrong.
he would just want you to love him
@@romse9547 and if you don't he would murder you
This Homelander video is beyond perfect and accurate.
Cool story bro, he's still gonna catch these hands
Homelander didn’t save Madelyn’s son. The son teleported from the house
I highly doubt it
Still though, a good theory I suppose. Also, lovely video, thanks for the effort@@BetterCallSahly
What? Since when did her son have powers? If he could save Butcher from the explosion he could save the baby too.
@@KingSlayer_. he's in the adoption place where hughie goes, he's the one who point out hughie on the tv
It takes courage to express such a controversial view. It's good we have the internet, people should appreciate hearing different views, rather than snubbing them and insulting the one who raised a point.
what if the only way to beat Homelander is to Save Him from Himself
I think he's lost so much that he's too far from saving
"I can do whatever the fuck I want..." - Victim
"Homelander" and "victim" just doesn't look right...
Hopefully the video can somewhat convince you
This is honestly why I think he’s such an interesting character. I wrote a long dissertation about him too on my channel, called “the ultimate tragedy villain” I covered that he never had freedom as well, and went quite in depth. You definitely touched on some things I didn’t, really well done video!
My controversial opinion is that I would except genuine forgiveness from him. Real and awful people that has had a similar heart ei; sociopaths, serial killers, horribly broken people has had and wanted genuine redemption. And I know he’s a fictional character, but if all he deeply wants is sincere love, imagine how affected his heart would be.
“No one deserves redemption, but it’s a gift free to us all.”
I would love to hear what you think of my video essay too, since we have similar conclusions.
I think homelander is especially later on shown to be more evil and villainous but it's my theory that his start was more sympathetic
@@JustfullmetalEdge-rs7nl yea I can see that for sure. He’s just falling deeper in the rabbit hole. And just like in real life if there’s no on to pull you out, you’ll only fall deeper.
I don't care what happened to him, that doesn't justify doing those things to others.
Hitler had a horrible past too but no matter how much torture or depressing past he may have had, it doesnt justify any atrocities he committed, would you call hitler a victim even if his past was extremely horrendous? ... Same thing applies here.
victim doesn’t mean good person. also hitlers past is nowhere near as bad as homelanders and homelander hasn’t killed nearly as many people
yet @@sterbenodonis2772
@@itznukeeyHe’s a fictional character, he will never be as bad as
@chandllerburse737 I’m not defending, lmao. But Hitler did horrible things to REAL people, that has more impact than anything any fictional character has ever done.
Homelander was different he was trained to be a weapon and not a human and was expected to live up to such all the way into being a adult
Even antony starr doesnt want homelander to be redeemed
Neither do I
Homelander is a victim for sure. He had no choice in life and its been stated he was subjected to brainwashjng and years of neglect, torture
While I appreciate your effort into this I heavily disagree with your opinion, but unlike the people in these comments I'm going to explain why
1: Saying that Hughie is not the victim because he could have "just signed the papers" and because he has starlight he cant be a victim is just disregarding the fact that Hughie's girlfriend died just because a-train was abusing compound V. And its also shown a train has no remorse for this event when he states and I quote "I ran so fast through this ***** that I swallowed one of her molars. Like a bug on the ****** freeway."
2:Saying butcher could have just "moved on from Becca" is quite literally the worst argument I've ever heard, thats completely disregarding that homelander literally SA'd Becca. Saying that butchers pursuit of justice after that is unjustified would be the same thing as saying batman's war on crime is unjustified just because it started from a personal experience.
3: Saying homelander had no other path is just wrong, he's literally the strongest man in the world. Vought cannot get rid of him if they wanted to, if homelander decided he didnt want to be a superhero he wouldnt have to because simply put, whos going to stop him.
4: Using the fact that homelander doesn't have a maternal figure as a way to justify all the things hes done is just wrong once again, you know who else didnt have a dad CHARLES MANSON!! But I dont think you'd exactly call him a victim.
5: Calling him a victim because queen Maeve dated him out of fear is lacking in context simply because the show doesn't exactly give us context, Starlight dated him because he made it official on live television and she was afraid of him(He literally murdered Supersonic because he got too close) to call her a victim would be a flawed argument.
6: Using Antony Starr saying that homelander is a victim of Vought is missing the point of the show, The boys is all about victims of the system, everyone in the group of the boys(Frenchie, MM, Hughie, Butcher) are all victims of supes in one way or another as MM states in season three the whole point of their orginization is nobody should have these powers in the first place.
7: Saying that giving anyone that much power firstly Supports the boys argument of nobody should have powers in the first place, and secondly does not make him morally right or a victim in the slightest, if a world leader were to drop a nuke on a country simply because they had "so much power how could they resist" would not make them a victim.
8: Yes homelander does some good things, another major thing in the plot of the boys is just corruption overall, a goverment agency could be doing good things but still be horrible people and it in no way would make them a victim.
9:Using the argument that homelander saved the baby would has 2 major flaws in that one, it is never confirmed that he saved the baby, yes you addressed the other theory of his powers kicking in then but just because you find it unlikely docent mean that its not canonically what happened. Secondly, if he had saved the baby it could have just been to shed him in a better light in the public eye. The most important scene to me in the boys is when homelander talks to himself in the mirror and says "I want them to love me."
10: saying homelander turning his back to the people who want him dead because he cares for his son dosent have as much impact as you would think, homelander is quite literally invincible. He's only ever been scratched before I highly doubt homelander was fearing for him life in this moment.
11: Your argument of homelander enduring insults from his father figures is flawed because the whole video you speak of how everyone is too afraid of homelander and he turned out this way because of that. Now because these men are not afraid of homelander and tell him their true feelings on him he's still a victim?
12: Saying that butcher killing people just so he could get a take at homelander so he's worse then homelander is disregarding that butcher is doing this for the greater good, you said it yourself, homelander has killed way more people if a couple people have to die so nobody else dies from homelander then so be it. You have to break a few eggs to make a omelet. And no, I dont think in any way butcher is a moral person, its even said in gen V that butchers hate has consumed him so much to where its destroyed him, another reoccuring theme of the boys.
i ain't reading allat
If you didn't copy this from somewhere and wrote this all down in this one video, well done good sir this is a great comment. I would like to see where you found the other arguments though as I don't know where you found them
Oh and also both your and the videos arguments could be true and you could still call homelander a victim, just not a moral one.
Also I agree with your 12th point, I had issue with that as well and I like the additional part about him destroying himself, I never thought about that before
Ok bro 🤓.
You could’ve just counter argued with the airplane scene
Having a bad life isn't an excuse, we make choices to be good people, the problem with Homelander is that he just doesn't. He was abused by almost everyone around him, but that is no excuse for the actions he commits in the show, I agree he deserves a chance at redemption but at the moment he's a very dark grey, much like a lot of the characters
Homelander was a victim in his own right, but he himself has created more victims than we can know of.
Nah Becca's the real victim. Think about it, she's happy with butcher, homelander rapes her, impregnates her as well, has the most painful birth of a child ever with out any loved ones there to support her, then after that she never sees butcher again, until like 6 something years later, in which she raises a son by herself, then gets tormented by homelander, and when she finally sees butcher again, soon after she dies tragically to her own son, knowing this could plague his mind of the fact that he killed her.
black noir the real victim fr
John Walker did nothing wrong, he just followed the USMC code of conduct, in which they are SUPPOSED to use lethal force if the assailant is a danger to public safety, the one he used deadly force against was a t- roar- ist , who , because of the Serum was basically a deadly weapon , and he was not surrendering , he was stalling. His hands were in front, not above or behind his head.
yeah and then he wasn't used to how the Super Soldier serum enhances emotions probably if he trains he can be a cool hero or something lol
yes, yes, i agree with your statement... (ive never watched the boys)
Wonderful video essay, I look forward to what you release next.
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You're right, Billy and Hughie had the choice to just carry on with their lives,
The strength to move on with your life no matter how traumatic or how much anger you feel is truly the definition of having mastered life.
There is no point in throwing your life away or putting yourself in unnecessary danger.
We humans have the strongest ability: we can forget.
Forget holding your gfs. Bloody detached hands?
Not only that but choosing to forget about another man forcing themselves onto counterpart? Fuck that, How can anyone "forget" about something like that and continue to live life and think of themselves a true man
what a retarded comment lmao, how could anyone forget their girlfriend getting exploded onto the pavement. that is a life of ptsd and hatred of supes whether you like it or not
do you feel any empathy irl at all?
okay but it's not like their s/os died of natural causes. they were both victimized by a system that takes advantage of that mentality- just take the hush money and move on. that's such a messed up viewpoint because "moving on" means letting them just die w no justice.
That is why the show is so good. Even the worst people the writers make us sympathize for them. Butcher, etc., are abused by their dads. Hughie is the only genuinely good person and his power, which, according to the writers, match his personality, is to teleport...naked. Showing us that superpowers would make you awful is the point of the comics and the show. I, for one, don't share their pessimism and cynicism, but it does make for some compelling television.
Homelander could've chosen to be a good hero to compensate for his bad upbringing. Zuko from Avatar got treated like shit by his old man, and yet he still found redemption. Whereas if we're to factor in the comics, the only time Homelander gets ''redeemed'' somewhat was when Black Noir revealed that he bamboozled Homelander into becoming evil.
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Homelander could just try therapie🙃 u know, instead of killing everyone around him
I think calling him the victim is fair but he likely does have a choice if it's true that no one can stop him. But I think he is psychologically too far gone
Homelander was dealt a bad hand growing up. But every day of his adult life, he chooses over and over again not to grow from it and just be a monster.
What exactly do you mean by bad hand growing up? Was he homeless? Was he left out starving without food? Was he physically abused? he was the most privileged kid who was brought up with utmost care than any homeless, parentless kid in this world, yet you all victimize a psychopath. You can't just give a reason for why he is bad. He is just plain evil as his creators(Writers) intended him to be. That's all
@user-ev9gk4vp8x lol, you seem like a bunch of fun to discuss character analysis with, what with your deep, "he just bad" take. You also seem to have a fundamental lack of comprehension of the difference between understanding and excusing.
@@SuperMrDeadpool It seems you dont understand the difference between a "victim" and an "assailant". Are you trying to say " bad hand growing" is an excuse for him being evil? or is this the way you define victim?
@user-ev9gk4vp8x lol, did you even read my original post? once again you prove you don't get the difference between understanding why someone is the way they are, and excusing their actions. Never once described Homelander as a "victim". The way he was raised was shitty, without loving parents, just uncaring scientists and corporate handlers. Did I ever say that excused his actions later in life? No. My original point clearly soared over your head and you're just arguing with a strawman you constructed.
@@SuperMrDeadpool "without loving parents, just uncaring scientists and corporate handlers" does not qualify one to become a mass murderer, rapist, or psychopath. Still, he had a better life than a real homeless kid who would starve for breakfast. HL is only a fictional "what if?" Superman parody character. I can't digest anyone saying he is a victim while he casually splits people into halves with his laser and looks into civilians like they are bugs.
Didn’t homelander say he didn’t want Ryan to end up like him
you forgot to make sure that he is a lab rat
the animation shows him being tortured by vought since 4 years old or smth
plus, he sees himself being a sort of spartacus, leading almost a slave revolt (which is what most supes are for vought)
"I don´t care why he did that, nothing justifies it" yeah of course you´d say that, you grew up in a first world country. Homelander is what superboy is like: a slave in the 21 century
Great character analysis! Homelander is one of my favorite characters and a tragic one. I feel horrible for him because of everything he's gone through, knowing he never had a chance to be an actual person; always a product of Vought. He's my favorite character overall, over all media types, and I love analyzing his scenes and describing what thoughts are currently going through his head and motivating his actions.
I truly wonder what kind of man he could've been if he was *actually* born and into a loving home.
He would be the better superman
Nice video, I see the point that He’s been conditioned his whole life into being what he is
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Homelander?
nah he could just be nice and not murder n rape ppl 💀
have you even seen the show
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Very well done 😊
About home lander saying he was born in a tube would be interesting if mallory was actually the one to give birth to him like just let that sink in
I think there are a lot of people who are much bigger victims than homelander (mainly the ones that are dead at this point) but I do agree he has a veru good motivation and backstory for his actions. Also comparing him to john walker really doesn't fit, walker killed a literal terrorist who was responsible for the murder of his friend and then got jumped by two colleagues who beat his ass. homelander has daydreams about mass murder. BIG difference.
I absolutely agree but I'd like to point out Homelander has done way worse than simply daydream about Mass murder. He's killed innocent people both on a whim and to advance his personal interests
if he dies by the end of the show i will unironically cry because like man he is a massive cc and I don't want him to die ;( i know he's a bad man but I just...love him a lot for some reason (most likely brainrot).
he's my bbg blorbino he should be rehabilitated and given true love and not death
Ew.
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Maybe have him live and find true happiness, but only after willingly giving up his powers.
The way everyone in the comments missed the conclusion of this video, of not excusing Homelander’s behavior but simply understanding the inhumane conditions he was raised in. He’s a victim of severe child abuse, no other way to put it. Any normal child raised without basic emotional support, emotional/behavioral regulation skills, forced labor (he never had a choice becoming the “face” of Vought) is literally set up to fail in life.
I wonder if Cate can push him to “feel loved” and 180 the storyline to have everyone destroy Vought for good.
so true, I can relate so much only I didn't have to do forced labor but yeah, that's why I feel so freaking bad for Homelander because -- like even know it's gonna make me cry just thinking about my childhood and how I am as an adult, like those things can really ruin your life. Like him going around and killing people isn't good, but he can not at all regulate his feelings... and as you said you learn those skills as a child, but no one ever did help him grow emotionally. And also this is a fictional character so I don't care if I feel more about his trauma and the sad stuff than him killing people, the sadness resonates in me so much more so that's what I attatch to him the most.
Does not make him a victim, at the very least, not more than the people he affects
@@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare Thanks for sharing your experience, and I hope you’re doing well to heal those past scars 💙 Yea, he’s a fictional character but He’s like a character study of narcissism and how a person can grow to become so insecure and vindictive…oh and the fact he has powers further adds to his delusions of grandeur because if he didn’t, he’d still have this god complex without the heat vision to reinforce his ideas.
@@ruruisu Welll, no. We can recognize that he’s an evil person, and is fueled from his past traumas of physical and psychological abuse.
@@ReamyD11 What the hell? He was shown to be the most priviledged child who was kept under intense care, given Superpowers and he has the freedom to do whatever the fuck he want? What sort of abuse did he actually suffer?
Would you agree if i say Bin Laden was the real victim and the people killed in the twin towers were joke?
The Hug wasn’t unintentional …He killed that tutor on purpose
it was unintentional
He didn’t mean to kill her he felt attached to her but didn’t know his true strength of his powers back then because he was a kid he didn’t realize
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All those lasered innocents: Am i a joke to you?
They attacked his son
@@di11onm1nkgaming He lasered a jet plane full of passengers into half, let a plane full of 100s of innocents crash into the sea and die, coerced/raped a woman, and threw a teen girl off the building. Who is a victim?
@@di11onm1nkgaming bro you cant be this dumb
I understand this fully .I grew in an abusive household .all forms of abuse were present. I grew numb to everything in my childhood. Was on a bad path towards being a serial killer.
How did you get out of it?
well good that you didn't become a serial killer, but it is so true that when you're around so much chaos and you are basically left to yourself with your emotions because no one will listen, you do feed more off of bad stimuli than good because that's what you're becoming used to, and the safe and calm stuff disturbs you in a way, while the darker stuff feels more fitting in a way
Do you guys not hear the satire 💀
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i agree!!
He was apparently a really sweet as a kid as well.
I despite Homelander, but he's the most tragic character the boys, nobody can match him in that.
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what do you mean hughie and butcher arent victims???? lol what
Yo Guys Imagine if Stan Edgar Told Him That He Can be as Narcissistic and Arrogant and as childish as he can Be but At the End of the Day He’ll Never Be Happy and would Come to hate his Powers one Day and would also Tells Him True Happiness and Love Comes from Trusting and Caring for Others and Being a Good Person and Tells Homelander Enjoy while it Last cause you’ll End of Hating yourself and Questioning your Existence!
He’s my favourite character
Mine too. Tied with Soldier Boy
@@BetterCallSahly yh ikr he’s so cool. I love Soldier Boy as well (along with A-Train)
@BetterCallSahly mine too 😊
I agree with all of this and have felt this myself when watching the show. I feel bad for almost every character in this show but he is still the villain but I root for both sides except vought. The company vought is the true evil manipulating everyone and the senator person.
Corporate is the real villain.. If Homelander was free from his childhood to fall in love and help people I really think he'd be different.. The look on Homelanders face when Butcher helps him stop soldier boy says it all. It's not his fault he's a dick and people are terrible
Judging homelander based not on his actions, but his past, isn't really fair. Nobody has "free will" in the literal sense. All your choices are predetermined. Everyone's a victim, even when they don't know it.
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Homelander does really have “free will” he was literally brainwashed to be like this.
@@SpicyTurkey83 yeah I know it's weird to claim no one has free will, but there's good evidence everything in the universe is predetermined.
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Lmao same here
I think the idea that is being missed is that butcher and homelander are the same person or at least very similar and in that situation you highlighted I believe butcher wouldn't have killed homelander if butcher own son said not too
Im starting to get the feeling that buther and homelander will beat each other up then in the end team up to bring down vought and maybe one of them die or both die
After seeing what they did to him as a kid I can't even blame him for turning out the way he did. What they did to him was monstrous, and so they created a monster. At the end of the day tho you blame the mad scientist for the people his monster hurt even if you also have to destroy the monster.
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Where did you find the video of homelander in his peadolescent life?
The main thing people are missing is that most people including myself could very easily become quite similar to Homelander if we were suddenly granted his exact superpowers. Especially with how divided and politically charged everything has become now. I can picture conservatives/liberals absolutely devastating the other side, lasering whole crowds of the opposing view point. I think it's a mistake to assume that oneself isn't capable of extreme evil. Then on top of that add on a childhood of neglect
interesting prespective however I would disagree in some major points.For exmaple he did have a choice when it comes down to things he did to Becca.Butcher on the other side had a terrible childhood too his brother died mainly because of his father. So saying that he had every right to do those terrible things isnt accurate however i can agree he have too much power and the whole point is that no one should have that much power which Homelander possesses.
you do know that butcher was loved by his mother as well as his brother, he grew up with genuine love. Read about childhood emotional neglect in adults and just see, love and being loved is so freaking important as a kid, without it you grow up to be pretty damaged as an adult. So fuck people who get kids when they don't know how to love them...
Astute and thoughtful theory. I can genuinely definitely see it being plausible.
PS - If I had his powers, I'd extract my pound of flesh, on those who betrayed me. Then bathe in their blood.
This is my first video of yours, if you'll have the read?
Your video hit ... home... with me. There's a lot of layers here so I'm going to break it down using personal experience and get right into it without wasting time. I'm trying to consolidate here, so this will come off as a bit all over the place, I'll try to make the connections obvious.
I grew up in the system in Connecticut during the 80's when Deinstitutionalisation was happening. The idea of kids being put into these kinds of situations is real and Homelander's life is one I can relate to in that, if you're smart or have special trauma, you were treated as an experiment. Homelander was, as were a lot of kids growing up in the system. If not an experiment, you were the lowest of human you can imagine.
You are on a correct path here in that, without certain people in my life to change a path or show me a more positive light, my outcome could be this monster we see on the screen without super powers, and this outcome is common among people who grow up in institutions. These days the 'super powers' these kids are using are guns and it's a future that should scare us. My statistic is death or jail. I've dodged these bullets so far and consider this a win. I surround myself with people who keep me humble, chill, and love me. Other humans are a cheat code, which brings us back to Homelander and his relationships. He often gets stabbed in the back by the people who he brings in. His ability to trust diminishes more, removing this net that is vital to pushing those more violent reactions away. He fantasizes about killing the bullies (humans with their big mouths yelling, saying mean things and throwing stuff...) until ultimately he fucks up and does it. The restraint he had his whole life until he snapped will be what this next season focuses on. It doesn't excuse him, and that's where his defense breaks down.
If you'd like to look into this some more, look into Fairfield Hills, Newington's Children's Hospital as well as Wheeler Clinic. I stayed in all of these facilities growing up and the stories are just as insane as you can imagine. There are worse places you'd hear about as you were in these facilities, such as one in Maine and another in Massachusetts... Tufts or something. Kids disappeared and this history is one of America's we are working to cover up. Seeing these stories as a warning to the world is fitting. We're raising monsters right now because of this system that is broken. A perspective you can tell from the other side of the pond as an outsider.
*cough* Please normalize your volumes... it got really loud at the end with your cuts... good video otherwise.
I would think that anyone with trauma from not being loved as a kid could relate to Homelander, he is a bully though, other people too but he bullies certain teammates. I grew up with childhood emotional neglect, and I can't trust people, I do not like emotional intimacy (because I can't trust that what people say or do is true, and feel like if I do open up or get vulnerable it's just gonna end up hurting more if something goes wrong), I have social anxiety, avoidant personality disorder and other stuff. Homelander has narcissistic personality disorder though, but I still feel sad for him. He is my favorite character on the show because I can feel for him, like his sad parts, it makes me so sad and I just want to comfort him. But yeah as I said, I think people with trauma can feel bad for him, the ones who's lived pretty happy lives will not be able to at all.
@@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare yeah, in the system there were kids who would bully and others who were victims of the bullies.
Homelander represents who would have been a bully without correction and instead had the behavior enabled.
He still has a choice to not do this behavior. Despite his trauma.
Thank you for this video I’ve been saying this
his a villain, every villain is victim of something but still they are villain
Homelander had a choice, It's just he didn't take it... In fact all of these characters had a choice and are they bad for making a choice? Maybe, that is for the viewer to interpret but I personally believe that all of these characters are just characters at the end of the day. Sure their story was one of tragedy but honestly it's not like they can change WHAT happened to them, they only CHOOSE what they decide to do about what happened to them and life just goes on anyways... no points.
He never had a choice. Put yourself in his shoes for a moment and really think deep about all the things that were taught to him, and WEREN'T.
Combine that with everyone around you treating you like fucking garbage, lying to your face, and tell me you would turn out different.
dude he didnt have a choice dude was raised inside a facility,ppl saw him as an unpredictable rabid animals and has been betrayed,manipulated and attacked by ppl he trusted all the time dude has no positive relationships,life is full of choices but guess what there are times where there arent any
He care about his son than Yujiro
Homelander dying saving Earth would be a great ending.
were did you get young homelander footage
RUclips, it’s the season 1 teaser trailer
Homelander had all the choices in the world.
He doesn't have a clear mind
@@ntinosaggelopoulos6718 how does that make him a victim?
@@user-ev9gk4vp8x because he has a power which he never asked and is truly a curse which had poisoned his mind and his soul. A man who has the sense of the godhood which he can't handle because everything around him seems so alien for him, so fragile and he is completely snapped to his mind. He is truly amoral but the same time he is cursed
@@ntinosaggelopoulos6718 oh no he has so much power poor baby
If only he had been born with no power and he would have to suffer from having no consequences to his actions
ts was interesting af
This gave me new perspective of homelander
they are all victims, you cant dismiss others
The second u ignored everyone else's trauma i knew this video was gonna be cap!!!!!!!!
Homelander is no doubt a brutal "monster". Although, I'd rather call Stan Edgar the "villain" of the show: top of the food chain, manipulating everyone else. Of course, things are a bit more complicated than just this. You actually have tons of villains in the series, constantly making the worst decisions (with Homelander as one of the worst), but Edgar is definitely the one I hate the most.
For me personally Homelander is a victim because he was never given the opportunity to be a part of humanity to understand what is truly good and truly evil to be given the chance to become a hero now he's just a monster to be put down
yeah and starlight is hotter than his previous girlfriend! good analsis! and you guys you guys are the real heroes!
This truly peak stuff
Free my boy homelander
I also think it’s possible for a homelander to have a redemption arc
That would be fascinating !!!!!!!! I'd watch that....
I did feel bad for homelander watching the boys though I think he gets more evil as the series goes on i think at first i felt bad for him
This video is something Vought would play on public tv trying to victimize themselfs
Bad take, all the people killed and hurt by homelander are completely avoidable and yes due to vought but hell nah he is not the only victim in the story. Own up to your mistakes and enable likes again
Likes should be enabled I never turned them off
Your comment is so wrong. He is literally brainwashed and controlled to be like this.
@@Jamesw587 not really brainwashed or controlled... he chooses to view life the way he does. it's just that his egotistical viewpoints were always encouraged and supported by the world around him, so never really got the chance to develop past them
@jaeydec9163 I think you need to look a little deeper instead of monday-morning quarterbacking this.
@@jaeydec9163 he literally is brainwashed💀