Also knowing the importance of the Golden Temple and bathing in it’s pond for Sikhs, that last scene of him washing away blood and grime in that water, and his face hardening from the innocence of youth to a mature determination was chef’s kiss.
It’s interesting to hear the difference in the perspective of someone who isn’t ‘in the know’ to this movie. I came in knowing the story (I live in Punjab, and have even visited the site of the massacre multiple times). I thought the movie would end with the assassination, but it happened within 15 minutes of the movie. So for me the time jumps kept the story we already knew interesting. I was not expecting the massacre scene. While it has been shown in movies before, but was never done such justice to before, because I guess technology hadn’t caught up yet to make the atrocities as realistic. So, knowing what caused the assassination at the back of my mind since the start, getting that scene in such depth felt justified to me. We didn’t feeling a sudden change of tone as we already knew the motivation of Sardar Udham. But I totally understand how both the jumping around and the sudden change in tone might have been jarring for you. I guess Shoojit Sarkar might have had this bias of knowing the story before as well
Thanks for the perspective! We appreciate you being able to see the film from multiple angles, including ours. It's an interesting study in how expectations and knowledge of subject matter affect filmmaking, both as a creator and as an audience. It was a very effective scene, undoubtedly, and we were grateful to be informed of this important atrocity in Indian history.
Glad u watched it... Hope u understand .. Y i have been telling u to watch it again n again... Sach a tragic events happened in India.. More than 2000 ppl were killed within 10 minutes... N still they became just a footnotes in Western history... Irony .. This was done by champions of democracy... One more thing...n
It was very insightful, thank you for your recommendation. Despite some problems we had with the structure, we recognize it's an important film and are glad to have learned about this significant and impactful atrocity.
17:26 No not a watershed moment for Indian cinema. Truth be told very few people in India actually watched the film and it was released on OTT. I don't remember it having a theatrica release. Also regarding realism there have been plenty of movies in the past. When it comes to graphic violence a movie called the bandit queen from the 90s come to mind. It was based on the real life story of a bandit from an exploited llower caste who goes on to become a politician later. But you will mostly find such movies in the independent cinema circuit of India or the parallel cinema movement that started in the 1960s. But off late such movies have become more mainstream with the coming of digital platforms. The independent circuit still exists but it mostly caters towards the film festivals and dont get theateical releases but you can see some of it bleed into the mainstream commercial cinema of India as well. Specially in that regard Malayalam film industry of India have been making some real gems off late.
That's incredibly interesting, thank you for commenting. We have received so many comments from people telling us to watch this movie that we assumed out was more widely known and viewed. We'll watch Bandit Queen, it will be good to learn more about the independent Indian film circuit, those films tend to interest us more than mainstream cinema. Is there a name for this cinematic movement or is it generally referred to as Independent Indian cinema?
Also knowing the importance of the Golden Temple and bathing in it’s pond for Sikhs, that last scene of him washing away blood and grime in that water, and his face hardening from the innocence of youth to a mature determination was chef’s kiss.
Famous line of this movie... Like their elephants, the Indian never forget their enemy, they strike them down even after 20 years..
Finally u did it 🤓
22:01 some footnotes can be really painful for many.. Its not only you most of british don't know about this massacre
It’s interesting to hear the difference in the perspective of someone who isn’t ‘in the know’ to this movie.
I came in knowing the story (I live in Punjab, and have even visited the site of the massacre multiple times). I thought the movie would end with the assassination, but it happened within 15 minutes of the movie. So for me the time jumps kept the story we already knew interesting. I was not expecting the massacre scene. While it has been shown in movies before, but was never done such justice to before, because I guess technology hadn’t caught up yet to make the atrocities as realistic. So, knowing what caused the assassination at the back of my mind since the start, getting that scene in such depth felt justified to me. We didn’t feeling a sudden change of tone as we already knew the motivation of Sardar Udham.
But I totally understand how both the jumping around and the sudden change in tone might have been jarring for you. I guess Shoojit Sarkar might have had this bias of knowing the story before as well
Thanks for the perspective! We appreciate you being able to see the film from multiple angles, including ours. It's an interesting study in how expectations and knowledge of subject matter affect filmmaking, both as a creator and as an audience. It was a very effective scene, undoubtedly, and we were grateful to be informed of this important atrocity in Indian history.
24:07 its not revenge thriller, udham singh actually killed that english man in london in 1940
Glad u watched it... Hope u understand .. Y i have been telling u to watch it again n again... Sach a tragic events happened in India.. More than 2000 ppl were killed within 10 minutes... N still they became just a footnotes in Western history... Irony .. This was done by champions of democracy...
One more thing...n
It was very insightful, thank you for your recommendation. Despite some problems we had with the structure, we recognize it's an important film and are glad to have learned about this significant and impactful atrocity.
Maybe one day the world will know the brutality of english..
17:26 No not a watershed moment for Indian cinema. Truth be told very few people in India actually watched the film and it was released on OTT. I don't remember it having a theatrica release. Also regarding realism there have been plenty of movies in the past. When it comes to graphic violence a movie called the bandit queen from the 90s come to mind. It was based on the real life story of a bandit from an exploited llower caste who goes on to become a politician later. But you will mostly find such movies in the independent cinema circuit of India or the parallel cinema movement that started in the 1960s. But off late such movies have become more mainstream with the coming of digital platforms. The independent circuit still exists but it mostly caters towards the film festivals and dont get theateical releases but you can see some of it bleed into the mainstream commercial cinema of India as well. Specially in that regard Malayalam film industry of India have been making some real gems off late.
That's incredibly interesting, thank you for commenting. We have received so many comments from people telling us to watch this movie that we assumed out was more widely known and viewed. We'll watch Bandit Queen, it will be good to learn more about the independent Indian film circuit, those films tend to interest us more than mainstream cinema.
Is there a name for this cinematic movement or is it generally referred to as Independent Indian cinema?
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Now u know.... 0.01% of british brutality in India.....