Re: long echo cds, I think it's not worth waiting for it to be up before using your skills so I think the best approach is to use the echo for every other rotation. That's just my opinion!
@@MrMiki43 That's why I run 44111 with double CR but I had to switch to CDMG/CR to meet the DPS check. Managed to 30* with 70/290 something but yeah, the resets were painful, and the boss bugging out when it spawns in doesn't help either (plus the wave in the beginning sucks to have to deal with). Once she gets lv90 I'm swapping her back to CR/CR since by then she'll outscale everything anyways, and I'm not dealing with resets -_-
Do you have any other 5 star sword? If no, you can pull for Changli. Just use Jiyan Blade for Jinhsi is enough to beat any end game content in this game. Signature weapon is not mandatory, any 5 star weapon is enough.
@@matheuscfs97It depends at the beginning of the game is great to have new characters, but as someone who plays Genshin and HSR I find it better to have couple really strong characters, than just bunch of characters who are just ok. But in this case you got a Point Jinshi is great with Jiyans weapon and Changli works really good with the Standard 5 star.
Jiyan's weapon is like a 12% difference compared to Jinhsi's sig, so it's pretty good. If you have Jiyan's, I'd suggest saving for Changli if you want another DPS.
I see that you are using 44111, i myself am having a difficult time getting two 3 cost echo with good stats.. do u recommend 44111 ? I can posible build around 270 cd
Yeah I'm using 44111 because it's easier to get good stats. I'm still trying to roll for a good 1 cost since I'm trying to switch to a cdmg 4 cost. But anyway the difference between 44111 and 43311 on Jinhsi specifically is very small compared to other DPS because she gets a lot of % from her own kit. It's like a 3-4% difference and according to this spreadsheet from Jinhsi mains it's 2-3%. I'm assuming that's with her sig and 3-4% is without. Linking it here so you can look at it yourself. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MaJzGk5p7t16NRs5mVBXXbJJC9rml-ADS0n3DKMontY/edit?gid=0#gid=0
@@TheMrBonzz the more stacks jinhsi has the more damage her nuke deals. If you don't need healer for the team you can replace verina with mortefi that way jinhsi can get more stacks faster
My Jinhsi isn't the best example for comparison, her build and team is hella budget compared to my Jiyan's. Jiyan has his sig and Mortefi is just goated being a buffer and extremely good off field DPS while having access to the only current 5* support weapon. But from what I've seen, other similarly invested Jinhsi's on their own are pretty much equal with Jiyan, however Jinhsi is very punishing if her nuke misses a crit. I think Jinhsi teams only beat S0R1 Jiyan's if they have a strong Yinlin as well. That's fair imo seeing as Yinlin is a limited 5* while Mortefi and the standard pistol are fairly accessible. Also the whole powercreep drama is just silly. They're not even the same element and have completely different strengths and playstyles.
i think there is 3 things that not equal 1. jiyan uses signature, jinhsi no 2. jiyan gets heavy attack deepen from mortefi, jinhsi no 3. mortefi in jiyan teams deals damage, but yuanwu no jinhsi lack a proper support that boost skill deppen and also gives damage
All valid points! They’re not like for like so sure, you can’t really make a direct comparison. But wanted to know your opinion on piloting them through ToA in their respective teams. A lot of us don’t have the luxury to pull all the characters so opinions from those who can compare are valuable, even if it’s not absolutely quantifiable.
@@space-crow oh yeah I get that. I skipped Yinlin because I didn't think she was going to be worth it without her sig, there was no way I was going to be able to get both. I will say though that both Jiyan and Jinhsi are relatively easy to play and it's not hard to achieve their theoretical damage potential. Both are also good in single target and AoE with Jiyan obviously having a slight edge in AoE, especially vs mobile enemies who like to jump around or stay ranged.
@@Reia_YT do u have any Advice for me because I try and even when my jinshi bar is full my damage is not that good, like do I need more Crit? Because my Crit is not that high the highest dame that I did was like 75k. Ps I'm f2p with yillin so and weapon, jinshi s0 with standard 5 star weapon
@@Reia_YT do u have any Advice for me because I try and even when my jinshi bar is full my damage is not that good, like do I need more Crit? Because my Crit is not that high, the highest damage that I did was like 75k. Ps I'm f2p with yillin s0 and her weapon, jinshi s0 with standard 5 star weapon
@@t.e.s.7.y how about your Crit damage bro? I have a 58:202 crit ratio with her sig weapon and She casually deals 100k with full stacks in overworld (100k isn't that good imo) and 140k in tower
@@t.e.s.7.yit depends on your general stats. Maybe you need to increase crit dmg, change some cost 3 echoes ( for ex, 2 spectro dmg for cost 3 if your atk above 1k8, or 1 spectro and 1 atk) the maximum dmg you can reach with s0 is about 100k to 110k, i guess :)
yuanwu can use the 3 star weapon to heal himself on a single auto which activates the full effects of the healing set. moonlit is more optimal on verina because she gets her outro skill a lot faster than yuanwu, allowing better uptime on moonlit, hope this helps :)
If you're tight on resources, yes. I think a well built Yinlin would be better due to her own personal dmg, but that's a whole other limited 5* with a potential sig pull.
@@promlead9426 You don't even have to build him, just slap the 3* weapon that heals on basic attacks and a random healing set on him, and you're good to go!
No habla espanol, Google Translate XD Es como una diferencia del 3-4% según Jinhsi Mains, ya que ella obtiene un gran porcentaje de su propio kit. Ella pierde menos en comparación con otros DPS que ejecutan 44111 incluso en S0R0, y prefiero tener una tasa de críticos más alta porque pierde mucho si su arma nuclear no hace críticos.
@@Reia_YT no since you’re above union level 50 already I want to know if it’s possible for day 1 player. I didn’t question the build or the characters at all.
@@WisdomTeeeth several day 1 players already hit UL50 if they play daily, or are very close. Also we got around 30 or 40 something crystal solvents (wave plates) for free so I've been using that here and there when I wanted to rush something. I have 20 left.
Not really, because her skill dmg% is already oversaturated. You rather want atk% increase. Even current meta 3-cost echoes right now for her are ATK% (assuming you have her weapon of course)
@@yunsha9986 I'll do you one better, support that has coord attacks and buffs crit so I can run a better build and not feel like sh*t when her nuke doesn't crit 😭
@@yunsha9986 the current calc says 1 atk and 1 spectro, for s0r1. Even with saturation, 38% more of skill damage would do a ton for her. But yeah, they could just invent a crit rate outro or something, it probably would be better. Im just TC with the outros provided until now.
Re: long echo cds, I think it's not worth waiting for it to be up before using your skills so I think the best approach is to use the echo for every other rotation. That's just my opinion!
Yeah I'm definitely going to try that next to see if it makes a difference on my monke floor time! Thanks! 🥰
Imagine we get a sub dps with spectro dmg bonus 20% and skill dmg bonus 25% outro 💀
I want a support that buffs crit because Jinhsi not critting a nuke usually means having to reset if you're just barely making the DPS check 😭
@@Reia_YT i had to reset today like 10 times due to most of her nukes not critting at 68 crit rate..
@@MrMiki43 That's why I run 44111 with double CR but I had to switch to CDMG/CR to meet the DPS check. Managed to 30* with 70/290 something but yeah, the resets were painful, and the boss bugging out when it spawns in doesn't help either (plus the wave in the beginning sucks to have to deal with). Once she gets lv90 I'm swapping her back to CR/CR since by then she'll outscale everything anyways, and I'm not dealing with resets -_-
I want to ask smth. I’m on rate on now, better i pull jinhsi with jiyan’s sign or better i pull changli with her sign?
Jihnsi with Jiyans sign and then Changli with standard banner crit sword, both will be great, having more characters is better for f2p or low spenders
Do you have any other 5 star sword? If no, you can pull for Changli.
Just use Jiyan Blade for Jinhsi is enough to beat any end game content in this game. Signature weapon is not mandatory, any 5 star weapon is enough.
@@matheuscfs97It depends at the beginning of the game is great to have new characters, but as someone who plays Genshin and HSR I find it better to have couple really strong characters, than just bunch of characters who are just ok.
But in this case you got a Point Jinshi is great with Jiyans weapon and Changli works really good with the Standard 5 star.
@@doriansz3130 Yeah totally agreed
Jiyan's weapon is like a 12% difference compared to Jinhsi's sig, so it's pretty good. If you have Jiyan's, I'd suggest saving for Changli if you want another DPS.
I see that you are using 44111, i myself am having a difficult time getting two 3 cost echo with good stats.. do u recommend 44111 ? I can posible build around 270 cd
Yeah I'm using 44111 because it's easier to get good stats. I'm still trying to roll for a good 1 cost since I'm trying to switch to a cdmg 4 cost. But anyway the difference between 44111 and 43311 on Jinhsi specifically is very small compared to other DPS because she gets a lot of % from her own kit.
It's like a 3-4% difference and according to this spreadsheet from Jinhsi mains it's 2-3%. I'm assuming that's with her sig and 3-4% is without. Linking it here so you can look at it yourself.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MaJzGk5p7t16NRs5mVBXXbJJC9rml-ADS0n3DKMontY/edit?gid=0#gid=0
@@Reia_YT thank you very much, great video as always
@@anish9837 Thank you! 🥰
Wow That much dmg with 44111😮
Ooohhhh surprise to hear Chinese voice here 🎉
Just got Jinshi recently but how did you manage to chrage her forte bar so fast?
It's because of yuanwu's skill and verina's burst
@@axelrossjavines4955 i thought it was damage based was it just per damage tick?
Yep Yuanwu and Verina burst, and she gets 2 stacks for coord attacks. It's based on type of DMG per sec. You can read it under her forte description.
@@TheMrBonzz the more stacks jinhsi has the more damage her nuke deals. If you don't need healer for the team you can replace verina with mortefi that way jinhsi can get more stacks faster
How does she compare to Jiyan on Mephis? Doesn’t look like she power creeps him much from your runs -what’s your opinion?
My Jinhsi isn't the best example for comparison, her build and team is hella budget compared to my Jiyan's. Jiyan has his sig and Mortefi is just goated being a buffer and extremely good off field DPS while having access to the only current 5* support weapon. But from what I've seen, other similarly invested Jinhsi's on their own are pretty much equal with Jiyan, however Jinhsi is very punishing if her nuke misses a crit. I think Jinhsi teams only beat S0R1 Jiyan's if they have a strong Yinlin as well. That's fair imo seeing as Yinlin is a limited 5* while Mortefi and the standard pistol are fairly accessible.
Also the whole powercreep drama is just silly. They're not even the same element and have completely different strengths and playstyles.
i think there is 3 things that not equal
1. jiyan uses signature, jinhsi no
2. jiyan gets heavy attack deepen from mortefi, jinhsi no
3. mortefi in jiyan teams deals damage, but yuanwu no
jinhsi lack a proper support that boost skill deppen and also gives damage
All valid points! They’re not like for like so sure, you can’t really make a direct comparison. But wanted to know your opinion on piloting them through ToA in their respective teams.
A lot of us don’t have the luxury to pull all the characters so opinions from those who can compare are valuable, even if it’s not absolutely quantifiable.
@@space-crow oh yeah I get that. I skipped Yinlin because I didn't think she was going to be worth it without her sig, there was no way I was going to be able to get both.
I will say though that both Jiyan and Jinhsi are relatively easy to play and it's not hard to achieve their theoretical damage potential. Both are also good in single target and AoE with Jiyan obviously having a slight edge in AoE, especially vs mobile enemies who like to jump around or stay ranged.
She's definitely stronger than Jiyan she allows me to full star clear ToA but Jiyan is still viable for sure and easy to use.
Is baizhi, yillin and jinshi a good team? I don't have verina
Yes
@@Reia_YT do u have any Advice for me because I try and even when my jinshi bar is full my damage is not that good, like do I need more Crit? Because my Crit is not that high the highest dame that I did was like 75k. Ps I'm f2p with yillin so and weapon, jinshi s0 with standard 5 star weapon
@@Reia_YT do u have any Advice for me because I try and even when my jinshi bar is full my damage is not that good, like do I need more Crit? Because my Crit is not that high, the highest damage that I did was like 75k. Ps I'm f2p with yillin s0 and her weapon, jinshi s0 with standard 5 star weapon
@@t.e.s.7.y how about your Crit damage bro? I have a 58:202 crit ratio with her sig weapon and She casually deals 100k with full stacks in overworld (100k isn't that good imo) and 140k in tower
@@t.e.s.7.yit depends on your general stats. Maybe you need to increase crit dmg, change some cost 3 echoes ( for ex, 2 spectro dmg for cost 3 if your atk above 1k8, or 1 spectro and 1 atk) the maximum dmg you can reach with s0 is about 100k to 110k, i guess :)
Verina yuanwu healer sets use it ?
Why do you have rev glow on yuanwu and not verina?
3-star weapon on Yuanwu heals a small amount when you use BA to proc Rev set and Verina gains concerto faster so she can use the other set instead
yuanwu can use the 3 star weapon to heal himself on a single auto which activates the full effects of the healing set. moonlit is more optimal on verina because she gets her outro skill a lot faster than yuanwu, allowing better uptime on moonlit, hope this helps :)
@@mvttchw thank youu it does
Yuanwu is the best team for jinhsi now?
If you're tight on resources, yes. I think a well built Yinlin would be better due to her own personal dmg, but that's a whole other limited 5* with a potential sig pull.
@@Reia_YT who is the best fo Jinhsi team? Yuanwu, Mortefi or Taoqi?
@@promlead9426 Yuanwu unless Mortefi has S4 and standard pistol. Taoqi takes too long building concerto.
@@Reia_YT Then, I will build Yuanwu for Jinhsi! Thanks!
@@promlead9426 You don't even have to build him, just slap the 3* weapon that heals on basic attacks and a random healing set on him, and you're good to go!
Verina healer sets use it ?
No Yuanwu uses it with the 3* wep that heals on basic to proc. Verina uses moonlit because she builds concerto fast.
Doble prob man ¿Porque?
Posiblemente por que no le sale ninguno bueno de coste 3 elemental.
No habla espanol, Google Translate XD
Es como una diferencia del 3-4% según Jinhsi Mains, ya que ella obtiene un gran porcentaje de su propio kit. Ella pierde menos en comparación con otros DPS que ejecutan 44111 incluso en S0R0, y prefiero tener una tasa de críticos más alta porque pierde mucho si su arma nuclear no hace críticos.
@@vaquero2965 Eso pues no tiene sentido, que sea bueno o malo no importa, que sea usable
Do you use astrites to refresh daily or these are topup?
Neither. This is an extremely budget setup using an unleveled Yuanwu and Jiyan's sig with a 44111 build. Dunno why that's even a question.
@@Reia_YT no since you’re above union level 50 already I want to know if it’s possible for day 1 player.
I didn’t question the build or the characters at all.
@@WisdomTeeeth several day 1 players already hit UL50 if they play daily, or are very close. Also we got around 30 or 40 something crystal solvents (wave plates) for free so I've been using that here and there when I wanted to rush something. I have 20 left.
@@Reia_YT thank you, that’s what i wanted to know, sorry for confusing i wasn’t meant to be rude.
I’m trying to learn the same setup too
@@WisdomTeeeth yep no worries, sorry if I came off rude as well. Best of luck!
Imagine whenever we get a sub dps with coordinated attack and skill damage outro
PLEASE! She really wants a Mortefi but for skill dmg % 😭🙏
I hope they rotate fast too. I love Jinhsi's short rotations XD
Not really, because her skill dmg% is already oversaturated. You rather want atk% increase. Even current meta 3-cost echoes right now for her are ATK% (assuming you have her weapon of course)
@@yunsha9986 I'll do you one better, support that has coord attacks and buffs crit so I can run a better build and not feel like sh*t when her nuke doesn't crit 😭
@@yunsha9986 the current calc says 1 atk and 1 spectro, for s0r1. Even with saturation, 38% more of skill damage would do a ton for her.
But yeah, they could just invent a crit rate outro or something, it probably would be better. Im just TC with the outros provided until now.