Scott Walker- Bish Bosch ALBUM REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2012
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While Bish Bosch isn't the strangest thing walking the planet, that certainly seems to be what he aims for on what is easily his most absurd album yet.
What did you think of this album? Love it? Hate it? Why? What should I review next, eh?
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FAV TRACKS: PHRASING, SDSS1416+13B (ZERCON, A FLAGPOLE SITTER), EPIZOOTICS!, TAR
LEAST FAV TRACK: PILGRIM
SCOTT WALKER- BISH BOSCH / 2012 / 4AD / EXPERIMENTAL ROCK, SINGER-SONGWRITER, DARK AMBIENT, WEIRDMEOUTSTUFF
7/10
Y'all know this is just my opinion, right? 
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He died today. Bish Bosh apart, people like Scott Walker or Kate Bush do not pop up every day in pop and u are left facing the enormity of their work when they are gone... in a snap what was alive and exciting and still full of possibilities it's a dead language for archeologists of rock music. For me, after Prince, this is the loss that traumatised me the most in pop music. For now... Genesis is apparently very sick...
He was a genius. Unlike what Fantano says in this review, everything he did was fully thought out and meant something - he just had an imagination like no one else. Who else would write a song like Jesse, comparing the death of Elvis's twin brother to 9/11? Or The Cockfighter, which is pieced together from the Eichmann trial and the trial of a 19th century queen? He was totally unique.
I was floored when I heard Scott had died. I thought he'd hit his stride with Bish Bosch and Soused and would continue for a good while longer. Scott Walker (and I mean the Walker of Bish Bosch) helped me through some awful times in my life. I feel like he laughed at the absurdity of life and death in such an artful yet unpretentious way. It's a genuinely brilliant album. If only people could look past the perceived ugliness.
Federico Pinci RIP Genesis
Wow Kate bush “not popping up” aged well
Scot Walker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kate Bush
There's a Sunn O))) album on that record shelf...
Did Anthony subtly predict the future with this review...?
I know, right?! WFTTF
What's the crossover??
@@Her_Viscera Scott Walker + Sunn O))) - Soused. Good fuckin' record that we can't expect that to happen.
Scott's the David Lynch of Music.
bradshawvincent But David Lynch does make music
@@therealabsurdhero this nigga is dead now lmao
Wouldn't David Lynch be the David Lynch of music?
@@spamsingles5948 no, because while David Lynch does make music, the expression "the David lynch of.." is obviously referring to his work as a filmmaker since he has a much bigger slice of the pie in that department
@@bhavyakukkar Yes, I'm aware
He ended up ranking this really highly on his year-end list; it grew on him considerably. When you listen to as much music as we do, the only thing that can provide a surprisingly meaningful and purposeful release from "the rest of music" is a Scott Walker album. It's cathartic, really. THERE IS NOTHING LIKE SCOTT WALKER.
Jake holmes first 2 albums
Where you been? Never see you in the comments anymore
@Ivory_ Lagiacrus_YT good to hear, they always had good comments that had to do with music discussion and not just bs memes
@Ivory_ Lagiacrus_YT nah I just been sitting here waiting for Shellac to respond 😬
This comment was helpful. I’m struggling with seeing this above the 2012 Beach House album, but I think that’s because Fantano values the initial or second listening experience rather than replayability. I mean there are literal fart noises on this record, but I get it.
Bish Bosch is the avant garde interpretation of "get off my lawn".
bluestate69 woah
I thought it's Trout Mask Replica. lol
@@zackzallie8735 no, trout mask replica is more of a "get your lawn off me!" type album.
@@bluestate69 lmao nice.
@@zackzallie8735 ha! glad you liked it. "trout mask replica" is a masterpiece. lately i have been getting into "ice cream for crow".
i'm actually scott walker.
theneedledrop scotthany walktano
modern scott walker? an impossibly smooth talker?
I don't believe you.
I’m Scott runner
and I am invincible in these sunglasses
I feel like this influenced David Bowie on Blackstar
Michael Lindner I agree 100%
Bowie was a massive Scott Walker fan. He covered his songs and openly admitted to trying to imitate his sound.
I thought this while I was listening to it
Bowie said he wanted to make a record like 'Tilt' ever since he heard it. 'Tilt' is pretty similar to this but darker.
adding on to what the others said, its almost funny how much bowie wanted to be scott walker, he loved that sound. listening to nite flights from '78 and hearing lodger the following year, there are very clear inspirations, it's wonderful.
i also know past few years scott had wished bowie a happy birthday on a radio show and bowie had almost teared up hearing such kind words from his hero
SCOTT WALKER SHALL LIVE FOREVER...pretty sure he's immortal....
This didn't age welll
RIP Scott Walker
How ironic that he has the Sunn O))) record on the shelf and about two years later Scott and Sunn O))) would be working together.
MagnumPineapple27 source of inspiration
More like a coincidence, but yeah.
Anthony is a simpsons confirmed
This album is from the same man whose first solo song was "Mathilde".
Talk about progression.
+Daniel Plainview We can talk of an odd trajectory, making his music and persona particularly thrilling.
"Lou Reed is a more coherent lyricist on Lulu"
"After hearing this LP I actually wanted to kind of sit back, relax, and have a nice chilled out listen to Trout Mask Replica."
Fucking lol'd
8:28 actually an amazing impression
glad you dug it, man. i find it funny that you can't get into metal, but you are that into something this impenetrable!
talking to self?
@@9THDEATH youtube didn't have replies back then
Drift is such a great album.
He woulda given this one a 9 or a 10 if it came out today.
He put it in his top 100 albums of the decade, so it's at least an 8 now
@@ellie-ys3qz blessed. Thanks 4 the heads up!
I usually don’t like these comments because they just seem like a way to make people feel like Anthony shares their opinion. But this one is actually bang on
@@ellie-ys3qz I would argue it’s probably a 9/10. It was among a lot of 9/10s and above quite a few. The 8/10s that are above Bish Bosch seem to only be up there because they grew on him quite a lot
Wait, how exactly does one thrive unsuccessfully?
idk but scott walker did it somehow and i believe it
Intellectually but not commercially.
Integrity.
Seven years on, this is probably my most listened to album. I love it. I cried when I heard that Scott Walker had died. The thought that I would never hear anything new by him again was horrible. But I guess we all have to go some time. I will enjoy Scott's weird music until I die. I think I'll arrange to have one of his songs played at my funeral. But which one? I'll have to think about that.
have you decided yet? what about epizootics! ?
I think The Haxan Cloak should get in on the production of his future work
This is a GREAT idea.
If only 😩 rip scott
Black One on the shelf in the background... How did Fantano call SCOTT-O))) 2 years in the future?! Some kind of wizard?!
Great review. The only way I can explain how I view the more non-eventful tracks on this album, and maybe the vibe over all, is that it's how I feel going to a museum. There are some paintings of fox hunting, maybe a Jackson Pollock, Roy Lichtenstein and then maybe a whole wall is some giant canvas with one or two colors on it. I feel that music like this is to remind us that there is so much unexplored space in music. Scott, please continue to make us fevered and cramped feeling.
You don't need cost Walker to do that for you. You could knock this up in a day or two.
Scott Walker should collaborate with David Lynch
Ok, so I had the same response to this album when it first came out, but then it dawned on me recently: Bish Bosch is a playing on Pish Posh (a silly phrase in English) and Hieronymus Bosch. So this album is meant to be a combination of the silly and the horrific and a linguistic/pun-filled ode to those paintings and what they say about how "dark" reality is. It's Metal Noir and it's great. (Also, have you noticed how relevant The Old Man's Back Again is to today? And Also alsoalso, I agree that he needs to calm down in this record and that Captain Beefheart record is a better execution of the same ideas!!!!) {pps: want to make out sometime (?), you're totally sexy.}
I really liked the way you covered Walker's whole musical history at the beginning. It'd be cool to see you do more of that with other artists with lots of material.
you think so? i thought scott was really in his own world on this album.
what's this comment doing here
@@the.boog.. it’s a reply to a comment from before replies were a thing
I'd love to see you review "The Drift" by Scott Walker, which you touched upon briefly in this review. I think it is a much darker and much more unsettling album than "Bish Bosch". The first time I heard it, I had a hard time falling asleep! Now it is one of those essential albums in my collection.
Listened to some of this album while I was going to the kitchen at night, everything pitch black. God damn, that was eerie. And fascinating.
I think it is a pretty good reflection on Bish Bosch. If you want to go in there do so. If you want to stay with easy music, by all means do so. My 15 year old kid hates this, being a fan of Fall Out Boy and the likes (which I don't mind), but Bish Bosch is a hard candy. It is sweet and lasts. It is like a Kaleidoscope, put it to the light of your mind and it will show you something new.
Damn Scott, thank you for all your work.
Solid 9/10 overall. Zercon is probably the best track this year.
alive and well, apparently!
Hi Anthony,
I've listened to your pod-casts on and off for several years, and your electic open-mindedness to music has introduced me to genres and artists I previously would not have even considered. For example, you alerted me to The Cults (who I have since seen live), Washed Out, and Wild Beasts, amongst others.
However, I struggled with your pod-cast due to how I perceived your vocal delivery. You always struck me as an eloquent and articulate guy, but I felt sometimes your articulation was actually more noticeable than your personality; I felt you were difficult to connect with emotionally, such was your dry delivery style.
However, with the addition of these video reviews (which I stumbled across while looking for Scott Walker videos), I see you are able to communicate more fully (with body language and facial expressions). You also seemed to have loosened up, and this feels much more like a train of thought - with relaxed humour - rather than 'clever essay-like sentences'.
In short, I see and admire the growth you have made as a broadcaster, and will be back discovering new music from your recommendations! Many thanks for your work.
Lewis Boadle
b0ss
@@davidvasey5065
Nice one David 👍🏻
Lol this album actually makes Trout mask replica sound like Justin Beiber.
No way
truemansparks that's true. I love TNR, but is on the next level of madness.
truemansparks Nope..nope. Nothing beats Captain Beefheart.
Ymbert Bonaventure Dickens you mean TMR?
it doesn´t........ totally different stuff, era, process....just stupid a quote
Anthony's Scott Walker vocal impersonation has mine beat. Well done.
Scott's voice can portray heaven or hell.- so glad we have a backlog of his wonderful recordings which were pure heaven. As an artist it is indeed his perogative to present us with the music/redcording today that I would personally describe as sheer hell - but it can be so disappointing to the majority of his older fans. I guess he has moved on and we oldies are still stuck hankering after the good old days when his recordings used to knock our socks off!
I tire of his declamatory, histrionic vocal style quickly but admire the adventurous orchestration, the shocking contrasts, the unsettling atmospheres. Not for everyone, certainly... but in my opinion, a masterpiece.
This album will make you go from heart racing anxiety to genuine laughter at how absurd some songs are. Going from a song with fart noises in the background to a song with knives being sharpened and crooning about maggots and decay just makes this album an unforgettable listen. As someone who is a fan of his early work on Scott1-4 his trajectory into avant-garde music is definitely interesting but worth checking out if you’re into that kind of music.
This album broke my mind! It was truly an experience. Can't wait to hear it again.
i'm probably just gonna do awayland when it drops.
awwwwww
Anthony look out in 7 years you give mbdtf a 10 and call it the best of the decade
“I’m a modern Scott Walker”
"After listening to this LP, I actually wanted to sit back, relax and have a nice chilled out listen to Trout Mask Replica." LOL! Nice attempt at describing this album...a heroic effort indeed.
After listening to this, I just told a friend "This isn't something you want to experience twice, but everybody should definitely experience it once!" Powerful stuff, and one of a kind.
Masterpiece 9/10 or 10/10
A very punctual Bishtony Boschtano on this one...
it's difficulty to understand is actually what makes it pretty boss.
I hate to be "that guy", but I am pretty new to the album. But some of the songs do have a deeper meaning. At least on the track "corps de blah", there seems to be a strong theme of a man discovering his psychopathic tendencies and becoming a serial killer, even picking up an apprentice at the end of the track, which is where you here the seeming explanatory lyrics at the end and the sharpening of the knives. Though it is pretty tough to really look at the lyrics because Scott does shift from narrator to main character, and it can be pretty difficult to tell when it happens.
That's a good interpretation.
Scott Walker is so amazing, and one day I will get into him, when I am in the proper head space.
The album can be the work of a mad genius or pretentious bullshit. Either way, i never heard anything like that in my whole life. And thats a plus.
I'm sure it's not pretentious shit.
so heres tea: this is better than the drift. his voice and lyrics are more expressive and interesting when he's singing about more absurd and humorous things, and the variety and creativity of instrumentation on this album outshines the drift
Never seen/listened to your reviews before. This was amusing and still quite informative and clever. Thanks.
Cheers, good to hear a review that is circumspect on the artist, but animates the current release for me. Well done
Bish Bosch is a lot like a James Joyce novel, in that it's very dense and takes a lot of effort to navigate through. I would suggest that listeners seek out Scott's recent interviews where he talks about the songs/music. Once you understand what's going on (like Zercon), the lyrics and music make a lot of sense. If anything, Scott is a story teller, as he's always been. Not for everyone, but the adventurous will find much to chew on.
i'd agree. great comment! thank you!
Fantano knew about the collab with Sunn O))) years before and tried to told us with his copy of Black One. Amazing
So glad you reviewed this. Got it today and looking forward to listening.
no, i'll check it out in there. i typically go through my inbox messages once a week.
I recently got turned onto Scott Walker and have quickly become a fan. Bish Bosch is one of the most brilliantly demented works of art I have ever experienced. I frigging love it. It's the Eraserhead of music. Wonderful review, very well thought out.
This album is just insane in all of the best possible ways. Was floored a track and a half in.
7:33 = the best moment in needledrop history.
Really looking forward to picking this album up this week.
thank you for reviewing this, Anthony. Scott is one of my favorite musicians...ever.
yep.
'Epizootics' is EPIC my friend. Great review. Thanks
I'm glad for this thoughtful reaction to _Bish Bosch_'s admittedly visceral effects. However, I do think the only fair way to evaluate Walker's music is to try to dig into its meaning. This is difficult, but there are resources out there which can't be dismissed, regarding his songwriting approaches. And imho, the more you listen, the more humor you hear where you hadn't noticed it before. Walker creates sometimes-painful sounds, but they're always too smart & calculated to be for shock value.
Walker is an extremely complex artist whose work is very challenging to the average listener or for that matter even the initiated. If you are willing to put in the time and simply allow the sounds to wash over you without judgement or expectation you may be deeply rewarded in a way that is musically unique and mind expanding. That said his stuff is definitely not for everyone much the way are the works of other totally uncompromising artists.
For shadowing, SUNN’s Black One on the shelf
Go for 'Tilt' (1995) for the best of Scott's avant-garderie. By the time of 'The Drift' and 'Bish Bosch', the opaqueness has congealed too much The latter two are also too long (probably best obtained as a vinyl double?)
8:29 Holy fuck you sound just like him
Happy 10th anniversary to this masterpiece
I didn't know that Wisconsin's governor was a baroque pop artists too. Damn, man can do anything.
Entertaining review Antony. Not normally my thing, but I'm intrigued to listen to it.
Cheers!
-Mon
I don't think it's vital to enjoying the album, but I think it explains where some of his crazy sounds are coming from. The use of silence, the "shredding" violins, the weird and sometimes tribal-esque drums are all reminiscent, for me at least. The electronics especially reek of Karlheinz and his crew. The thing I really like about this album though, is it's fusions with the other genres. Other than that infinity girl record, this is probably my favorite release this year.
8:28 was an insane impression lmao
indeed he is!
I agree. I love it. Strange that so many think it is so out there. I think its a more accessible album than The Drift. But I completely understand that it is not an easy listen for most people and many won't dig it. It honestly took me 2 years of listening to The Drift before I finally realized that I wasn't supposed to "understand" it - just listen to it. Its not music as much as aural art.
glad you dug it! :-)
Thankyou for the review. I have many scott walker records, but this one , i thought would not be for me. Your review was very helpful. Thankyou.
came to this cuz shared with a friend i'd been listening to an interesting group called Land of Kush and he mentioned bish bosch but idk if the two musics are similar
yes, just to relax.
great overview of scott's career, prior to the review
and honestly, great impression "here's to a lousy life"
Just listened to the album today because of this review. The first album I've listened to in a while that actually really shook me up. Haha.
qualify it?
Fair review! And love the impression...
I knew when I put on Bish Bosch for the first time last weekend that I was going to experience something that would radically change my understanding of what is possible in music - and true to my expectation, I was completely shocked by almost everything I heard. Removing all your desires to understand, enjoy, or rate an album as good or bad is key - start by focusing on the power of these sounds. Quiet that little voice that says "what the hell is this?" and take the sonic beating like a man!
I'd certainly recommend it. I had a good week of listening before it came out due to a leak, so most of my thoughts were pretty well developed before my CD came in the mail. This is the type of album that needs some analyzing, the surface level is appealing but the depth of this album is what makes it particularly astounding.
Oh, and if you haven't seen "30th Century Man" (documentary on Scott) I'd highly recommend it. It's on vimeo.
mmaybe i need more time with it.
i hope you enjoy it!!!
I'm still awaiting the release of a Scott Walker album that ends up making everyone realize Walker was a serial killer. It would basically tell us the 666 women and men he murdered, as well as where the bodied are located.
Scott Walker. Amazing singer/songwriter. Thrilled that he didn't pursue the pretty boy/boy-band thing. I've got every record (band and solo) and would love to see him live. (Saw him twice in Melbourne with the Walker Brothers January '67 but don't think that counts). But truly love his solo stuff. Best voice and (for me) pertinent lyrics.
I’d like to know what you think about the album now after all these years.
I love it but I also loved The Drift and Tilt. I felt it's sparseness or sense of being "underdeveloped" was an intentional element adding to it's difficult tone. It's didn't like a negative quality to me.
I'd give the album an 8.
I'd give the fact that Scott Walker exists a 10.
I love your scott impression, anthony
@Recolation To add to that, I'd highly recommend that you listen to the album again whilst reading the lyric sheet, and look up words and phrases that you're not familiar with. I think youll find a greater enjoyment here than you initially thought.
Great review, I agree with most of your opinions here... but I think it is a hard one to rate. I feel over time the album is going to really take on a life of its own, the dust will settle and I would imagine it'll actually rise up in people's minds... there is a lot to take in during its 73 minutes and I think some moments will only truly resonate over time... but I do agree that a track or two are a little underdeveloped. Oh and hope you got toread my review on Love Without Anger.
yay!
What ?
imad abbou he is probably responding to someone, 7 years ago the reply system didn’t exist
PERFECT.
thank you!
great review. Loved the album. Scott Walker is amazing
Never heard of this guy, thanks for introducing to me, really intriguing, the scattered tracks I've just breezed through.. Kind of apt right now as I'm trying to work sampled strings and baroque instrumentation into a few of my songs live. Is there one potent album of his you'd recommend to devour?
I think you handled this review REALLY well. I think reviewing a Scott Walker album would be very hard to do just because of the nature of who he is and the art he makes is so a-typical from the normal artist/band.
I’ve heard this album is based on the experience of having dementia and being around people with dementia, not sure where I heard this and it might even just be me thinking it and imagining someone told me it. Either way it explains the weirdness and enhanced my listening experience quite a bit. This album terrified me.
Are you sure you're not talking about the caretaker - everywhere at the end of time?