Should you Buy Stellaris Overlord (Review)
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Stellaris Overlord is out, and it's time to see if the features are worth your while. Should you buy this on launch? Wait for a sale? Or just leave it all together? Let's find out.
The review copy for this expansion was supplied by Paradox Interactive
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to be fair to a point you made towards the end of the video. Its REALLY hard to match how impactful Utopia was
Utopia at this point is a must buy.
@@MrDeflador agreed.
They went all out on Utopia for their first major expansion, and the result afterwards was them going "Well fuck...probably would've been a good idea to have cut a bit of the content out to sell for later expansions instead of adding all our ideas in at once"
Like it's honestly insane how much Utopia added and how borderline essential it was (and still is really)
@@terrypennington2519 what does utopia have again? It must be so essential I don't even know what it adds besides megastructures lol.
@@felipegdesouza2011 megastructures, habitats, ascension perks, government and slavery expansion, primative indoctrination.
I always get the DLC but definitely agree on the UI needing some sort of overhaul and reorganisation, one of my biggest peeves is just the sheer amount of tabs you have to cycle between for a lot of the in-game systems. The prompts for missing traditions etc are great, but when navigating around the menus there's a lot of screen clutter. Things could probably be sized down or compartmentalised a little better.
I just want to be able to reorder my fleets. (Maybe a decent fleet manager for the federation and custodian fleet)
I also always get the DLC.
In the end i will keep playing the game, and if you think how it looked at the start and how it has evolved, worth every euro i spend on it.
Honestly all I can say is 'Welcome to Paradox' I promise you, Stellaris is tame by comparison to their other titles.
Probably, I don’t really give a shit myself. Guess I’m just used to it
I’d agree to some extent but for the most part…I actually enjoy the UIs, in the current game…not the overlord DLC UI. It’s worse on the peasant box
@@erikaverink8418 it would be really nice if you could organize your fleets in the outliner. Sometimes I have fleets on the whole other side of the galaxy mixed in with other crap over near my empire and it’s a whole mess figuring out where everything is…what to multi select…blah blah blah…I all GREE!
I feel that an opportunity was missed to add a holding that we will call a "stargate" for lack of better term. Allows an overload to instantly send occupant armies to vassal worlds in case they get too uppity, or just to re-enforce them if attacked.
That would be very interesting thing to see worked out.
Dude. That's a really cool flavor
Seems a bit too broken, though.
*Reinforce is the military term.
Hope we can get a Event expansion to add .. Lets say 300 New events/Quests .. we need to fill the universe withe more content like that.
Early game has too many events, mid and late game too few. I wish they would spread them out more.
@@rake483 can agree on that.
mods easily fixes that
@@rake483 mods easily fixes that
Use those events mods
Something I badly want in Stellaris is more victory conditions that I could work towards that isn't combat oriented. Personally I am not a fan of domination victory and I feel mixed on score victory. When i originally played the game I found that I loved playing with a mildly small empire. I love playing tall and even when playing tall is not meta I find it to be so much fun. I just wish there were other victory conditions to win the game.
Agreed, its done in well in civ 6, would be super nice to have in stellaris
Agreed
The only issue I have is with the human portraits. Not that the new ones are particularly bad, I just wish there are more variety among them and that the old human portraits were still kept as options to choose from. Other than that and the UI issues, this is a fantastic dlc.
I think there should be an option to pick the type of human clothing you want.
Gothic
Military sci fi
Feudal
Science
I don’t see why the UNSC should dress like they’re in Dune.
Such a weird decision to get rid of the old portraits. The new ones honestly seem less diverse.
The new hivemind origin is the Zerg origin I've been waiting for. I can now create specialized broods to suit the needs of the territories they inhabit!
Im here just waiting for the buy button to become available
Being able to build Gateways in Subjects Space (and also the highways) are SUCH a quality of life change. Now the Game only needs decent spy mechanics which allow to boost a certain ideology or fan rebellion on planets so i can have my fantasy of a dark technology focused tall necroid empire influencing the Galaxy with spies.
that would be soooooo cool
There was a mod like this. I considered it a must have to play the game. Sadly it’s broken now, I think it was called Sow Unrest. You were able to sow rebellions on planets close to your borders with special buildings and starbase modules. Then you could back the rebels in a proxy war. I used this to wreck havoc, and also, had it used against me by a very shrewd AI that almost killed me with it..
still hoping for a criminal underworld rework for crime empire's
Definitely going to get the expansion. The standard UI has been bad for a while but their are several mods to fix that.
Hopefully they make orbital rings a separate bar so you can minimize or keep open at your convenience but at least it would be separate from the star bases.
The origins look fun at least and I can’t wait to try them all out.
I’m looking forward to what mods come out with all the new toys the developers gave us with this update.
Watch Gigastrustures make a superior even more accurate/exp megastructure to pinpoint jump around the galaxy.
I'm only here to let ASpec rationalize the purchase I already made impulsively because new Stellaris DLC make my wallet go brrrrrrrrrrrrr
"not quite as good as utopia... But nearly" is high praise from the Aspec!
I really appreciate that you gave a a good critique and warning for the UI. For me it's not a deal breaker but good to know im advance.
Nemesis felt very underwhelming for a big expansion. It's very nice to see one that adds and expands every new game you play.
I know right? It’s got a few bugs and questionable decisions, but this feels like a much more worthwhile purchase than Nemesis
Really good to see a well structured and thought out video from yourself. Much appreciated
I've been waiting for this one, can't wait to try out the new stuff
Thank you so much for explaining the quantum catapult
ASpec doing his best to, though futile it may be, stay objective. It is much appreciated!
I've purchased every DLC for the game haven't regretted any of them some of them may not be the best but it adds content for the game and so I hate playing a game where I am missing content and this just happens to be one of my favorite games. Besides Paradox also has been adding content into previous DLC.
When you pay full price for a game you expect the full and completed product with some minor and far between bugs, DLC is DLC when it simply ADDS to a completed product and not completes it. This is not a DLC, this is them completing the game Stellaris over the course of 4 years and milking you for money everytime they get off their ass and start fixing the game.
Stellaris at launch was like a early access title and it was waaay overhyped, just Like Hoi4 had barely any content at launch compared to what they hyped up before they released it (Play Launch Hoi4 and compare it to launch HOI3 roflmao) . I suggest you open your eyes and stop kissing up to Paradox as if they were a small indie studio in some random village in Sweden.
They are a Studio who has made millions off gullible people like you who just think "Oh they will patch it after launch" "Oh they will add that in a DLC" "Oh it just released dont be too harsh on the game" you are the people they are marketing these crappy point and click games to, open your eyes and realize that and stop giving them your money and maybe they will start putting actual effort into games again.
All of this makes them one of the most greedy and anti consumer companies ive ever seen just because of their policy of released Half Baked products for FULL PRICE and then charging you a further 4 times as they release "DLC" after "DLC" just so you can get half of the product you paid for.
And in the end people still sing their praises and jerk them off so much that people like you leave comments like this misleading people into thinking Stellaris is a halfway decent game on its own without DLC or mods (Because it isnt even after a billion patches)
Take better care of your money bro.
@@kingofkemet5736 The issue of not delivering a complete and playable product and milking their fans is a main Gaming industry as a whole issue not just a Paradox Issue..As for Paradox Compared to their Competition, Civ and Total War specially dam Total War recently they make Paradox look like Angels. and funny enough, less greedy... and if not mistaken it seems Paradox has passed Civ and Total war so I dont think their policy will change any time soon since they are more and more succesful
@@kingofkemet5736 I agree with you 50% you are right about paradox not being a consumer friendly company. They hire a community management team that is pompous and narcissistic. And Devs who get mortified at criticism. So the treat their customers poorly (just look at how they handled EU4 Leviathan)
They do have a point that they need more revenue. Most games are more expensive to make, and the cost has stayed the same sense the 2000’s. So they offer the bases game incomplete with DLC to help cover for the development cost. But this constant stream of DLC has gotten to their heads. And the sheer quantity of “needed DLC” they sell borders on micro transactions. This stifles them making new games that run smoothly, and doesn’t feel like a 10 year old game.
It’s a shame there isn’t another game developer who makes Grand Strategy. Paradox needs healthy competition.
@@kingofkemet5736 tell me you're a tool without telling me you're a tool. Lmfao
@@kingofkemet5736 so you expected like, all of this at launch?
By far the most exciting feature of this expansion are the bug fixes for the AI. Finally the game difficulty will be higher than cadet.
I feel like I am the only one who gets consistently bodied on anything but the lowest 2 difficulties lol. I have over 1000 hours and evetybody around me still manages to triple my fleet size by mid game
@@outcastshryft its the same as with every other grand strategy ever. tech rush and survive the early. thats really the only time where any ai ever shines
*cries in can't win a cadet game after 1.4k hours*
TBH Ai has been fine for a few patches now when fighting the player. Still made some weird choices every now and then but good enough for most players I'd say. Main problem I had with the Ai was when the crisis rolled around and the AI just kinda didn't get how the crisis worked.
@@outcastshryft Are you playing with scaling difficulty turned off? If yes, the game will be much harder probably. From what i have seen, the standard difficulty for experienced players seems to be admiral or grand admiral with scaling difficulty turned ON.
Starting as psionic's with your first perk is a definite yes reason for me to get it. It really saves having to roll the dice in the hopes you find the psionic theory tech anywhere in your games via the planet, the zroni colony/crystal, the phasing gaia planet into shroud planet, etc.
Thanks for the heads-up about the UI issues.
Thanks for the recommendation and review.
You're welcome
I love using Vassals for my games in general. Did the same for EU4, did the same for Stellaris. It’s good that there’s a lot more that we can do with vassals now
Overlord just sounded like something that was right up my play style so glad to hear it’s turned out quite well. Btw how good were the Mercenary mechanics? Did it turn out well and fun?
They're like an overclocked version of the Kahn
@@A_Spec your opinion is biased because you want to have a good relationship with the developers. the new human faces are horrible, the game is full of buggs, the vassal mechanics make you want to never have vassals and the primitive worlds rebelions are super idiotic. the selling point of this DLC is so poorly implemented that makes you want to avoid vassals.
@Achronic Deth I just use them for the money they generate. Usually by the time I need them I can recall them since I'm their patron.
Been getting back into Stellaris recently. Then I realized I didn't have a bunch of DLC's for this game installed. That has been rectified mostly in part to your video review series.
Does the chaos of the Holy Roman Empire sound fun? Give it a try. Adds a few super structures, vassals are fleshed out, more enclaves, extended options for psionic races and hives, plenty of general stuff or just expanding the galaxy. I don't know if it's required but like Megacorps the new origins are interesting to consider. I hope the general UI can be polished over time with Custodians but as just content I think it's fair for a discount or anyone who wants more out of Stellaris+
Hoping a bunch of the vassal type mods jump onto the specialization thing, Bulwark is nice but it feels like they don't really do much other than being a roadblock, i would've liked a Martial protector type vassal that takes some industry resources from the overlord and focused heavily on fleets.
literally watching this video with the credit card in hand
Just the video I needed
Can you... shotgun your fleet to the L-cluster...?
If u opened them
Jump drive doesn't work so I assume not before opening.
I just wanted to buy the DLC for the OST but sadly my money expectation doesnt got meet, looks like imma wait for my checkouts.
I think for the next major update the custodian team should focus on adding more content to the base game and DLCs for instance more than one shipset for each type of species.
You were fast with the realest but I clicked buy before and download was finished 4 min after launch
Thank you for the review! Are you going to do a new beginner series tutorial tutorial after the release of 3.4? :)
Yes
@@A_Spec Excited for that!
I saw a lot of backlash on the steam page of this dlc. Especially about the vassal system. I did not buy it yet. But it seems like you can not force your vassals to do as you ask... That seems odd.
This will be the first time I wait to get a dlc for stellaris.
Same.
I agree with the idea of hyper relays coming sooner in the tree. I always feel by the time I get my network up, I already got jump drives as a threat and it kind of ruins the vibe of protecting those routes.
Aspec, I know its not Christmas yet, but is there a discount code coming?
Haven't been following overlord much and wanted to wait till it's released and see what people think. My take is that the additions are pretty solid, but we might need a patch or two to smooth out some wrinkles. I'm still excited though and plan on getting it now!
Tbh with the habitation ring stuff I just had starbases and shipyards and such turned off on my outliner so it’s only really a problem if you wanted to have that open
Yeah this is a 100% buy for me, the game is a gem.
Hi! I love this game, the phase is that I have it after a site that always adapts it to every update like the original one and it works multiplayer, I will buy it in the future, it's really worth it! I'm glad I got it for free after a site that updates it and I was surprised that it works multiplayer :)
I just buy all dlcs since I will play from time to time but appreciate what the developers are doing. This is one of the only games I buy all dlc that come out for most others I won’t unless it has a damn good dev team behind it. Hopefully they fix those ui issues as mentioned in the video in another update
Started a Rogue Servitor (should have picked a new origin) playthrough and at least early game I am not seeing too much of the new mechanics. It’s 2250 and it’s feel like it will take a long time to grind these vassals down before they do what I want. Maybe once I get some of the railroads and later tech it will start to feel different but atm I am not seeing the changes.
Maybe I am getting massive penalties because I am a machine empire and using the vassal mechanics?
This is the first one in a while that I'm tempted to get on day 1, I was considering picking up Nemesis whilst it's 33% off but to be honest this one looks like it has far more interesting features that will influence more games.
I love how I got almost every dlc along with the game for the summer sale, it was awesome, only cost around 100 dollars total
Now, can someone make an updated Tier maker list of the DLC?
Looking forward to it
Ultimate Bundle is only 110 on steam right now. Waiting for it to drop to 80 on G2A again and I'm picking this up.
I went to the gog shop to buy it and it would not allow me. Had hard time figuring out why til i rememberd a dunken night buying it the month before
Question if anyone thinks this is a bug or something meant to be. When playing as a mega crop and you not have the other vassal types? It only lets me have subsidiary's
I don't know if there will be but it would be super cool if we could get a Stellaris 2 with updated ui and qol. I love this game but some things do feel odd.
Do I need to start a new game to use this update? Or will it apply to current play throughs?
Megastructures! Do you use them often?
I've gotten every single pack so far and one of my favourites is the federations pack
I love the flavor of the Shroud Coven, but are they fun? Unique?
2:05 back in my day we could fit a whole hyper relay into a starbase.
You're too late A-Spec-Kun, I've been waiting by the button for hours
Maaaan I wish my pc didnt break on me 😭😭😭 I'm playing on xbox and this dlc doesnt come out for a little while now. Getting back into this game after a year break has been refreshing and has me hooked. Only if I was pc tho uugh. Cant wait to get my hands on this dlc
Started playing my first lithoid game with the subterranean origin. Only just into it but pretty cool so far.
As soon as it will be possible I will buy it. But not sure when :(
Literally scheduled a game to launch 30 min after expansion launch so, waiting about 9 minutes over here.
Haven't read the notes, but is there any under the hood changes for optimization? Late game has gotten better, but I'm curious if there's any further improvements with things like lag.
Tons
Does anyone know how to create sectors? They seem to have moved the option.
Gonna go wait until I buy a new pc. mine is getting quite old and even the mid game makes my pc struggle by this point.
The subterranean one is such a dwarf origin
My favorite, and only video game. Stellaris brings me back to "Traveler - Trillion Credit Squadron" from my youth. Love it!
what other games do you like? looking for alternatives.. seeing you seem to have a good taste of games
Slipways
Thankfully we have mods to fix the UI, but unfortunately we need to use mods to fix the ui
What do you mean should i buy it? It's already in the library
Buy it again
Has anyone had a glitch where your subjects status keeps changing so you can’t renegotiate your Overlord Status. It’s happened four times on the same Empire for me. Keeps flipping between a Vassal and Protectorate.
Also, first Impression, I don’t think the Overlord Mechanic makes you feel like you own them. Like they can refuse an agreement you try to propose to them. I’d though idea was you could make demands but loyalty would suffer. But you can only get agreements by consent; just like Federation or Galactic Community. I actually feel I have less control over my vassals right now.
I want to be able to charge other empires to use the Hyper Relay through my empire.
Imagine letting xenos into your empire….
i think at some point they are going to have to make basic hive and machine empires part of the base game.
IDK if i missed it but it also introduced a slue of new bugs as well... I know they'll fix them but id rather they delayed updates instead of rushing them out...
Planets that actually orbit DLC that im currently waiting
Thanks ASpec! As a total newb I'm fast getting hooked on this gem. What expansion + DLCs would you say are a must-have for beginners, so we get more of a flavour of the current game, but without over-saturating it with 6 years worth of features? I'll prob end up getting everything in the mega-pack at some point, but just wanted some recommendations for my first 'real' serious play-through. Can we even de-select an expansion/DLC if we want (without uninstalling it)...? Cheers!
I would say Utopia & Distant Stars. Utopia adds some really important fundamentals such as enclaves, megastructures and deeper population management.
Distant Stars adds more Stellaris. It's an event pack that adds nearly a hundred new things to encounter in space; events, unique solar systems, ect. It really adds to the story without bogging the player down with new mechanics.
@@A_Spec Cheers mate, will grab those as soon as I can then! :)
Stellaris is going the same path of other Paradox games: Simple for new players to learn at first, but the more content and DLC is shoved into it, the more complicated and overwhelming it becomes. Experienced players will have a better time locating and navigating this UI, but new ones? They'll give up, simple as that.
I just bought the 100$ pack for all the DLC…wish me luck I guess I’m going to have 0 clue what is going on
I would strongly recommend turning on own expansion each play through. Or maybe every other.
Not counting distant stars. That one is mostly stories, and you should turn on right away..
This keeps it from being overwhelming, but also let’s you appreciate what each expansion brings.
@@taylorledet3993 -- I also just bought it. If you watch a few RUclips videos you'll soon pick it up. (I have had the other DLC's turned off while I pick it up though.)
@@taylorledet3993 you will do great, people like to overstate the complexity of the game.
I don't suppose they could talk to one the UI modders contract them to officially rejigger said UI officially?
My first game with Overlord, my fleet and star base refused to attack. My fleet just circle like ground troops in an engagement. Also the damn game started two other civilisations with in four hyper lanes of me.
Yesterday when I tried to create a specialized vassal the only option I could make was a protectorate. Am I missing something? I collapsed the protectorate but there were no indications on how I could change it and as i mentioned before they were non existent. Any help would be appreciated :)
You have to give them tons of research subsidies. If I want my protectorate to be another vassal type I give them a 75% research subsidy. They’ll eventually turn into a vassal automatically after hitting a certain point in research and then you can change to other vassal types. In my current game by giving research, alloy, and mineral/energy/food subsidies I’ve made one of my protectorates the second most powerful empire in the game over the centuries.
Sounds like you did not fully examined this. But im not suprised.
"there's a galactic catapult"
TAKE MY MONEY!!!!
Cannot wait for this to hit console edition!!
One thing that absolutly does not make sense to me is the fact that vassals can say no. Im their overlord, if I say you give me more of your levies then you give me more levies. I was expecting more of a currency system where you gain vassal loyalty from deals that favor them and lose it if you make bad deals. It doesnt make sense that if my vassal refuses my order I cant go and kick their teeth in. Why would a vassal listen to me at all if they can just say no and I slink away with my tail between my legs? Doesnt make any sense. Rest of the dlc is great and I would by it for the hyper relays alone
There have been a number of complaints about this DLC. Should I wait for the bugs to be fixed and some re balancing to be brought in?
No need for that tbh. I have played for about ten hours with no major bugs encountered.
We are now in the seventh year of Stellaris. Will we get to eight, or we are getting into Holy Fury territory with Overlord?
Wonder if the devs employ someone to fix UX problems too
I'm starting to think it's time for Stellaris 2!
Does anybody know why Paradox has deleted the African, European and Latino races and swapped them out for various shades of Pacific Islander...?
Probably because Sweden is obsessed with dying.
I forsee that not a single person will ever use the quantum catapult while the randem effect is present.
I dunno sounds good for deep strikes into unprotected territory
@@ProvostZarakov that is the purpouse. What about the price? Would you rather build this or a dyson sphere? The answer is obvious.
@@UnusualDeathCause I mean you act as if it's one or the other? Por que no los dos?
@@UnusualDeathCause why not both?
Soo im new to this game should I het it or not
Can crisis use hyper relay?
I just want the late game lag to go away idk why its still a issue and I got a beefy system :C
Alright, I'll watch this in a year when overlord comes on console...
How do I access the missions screen that pops up when you start after I’ve closed it?
You click on the science ship that's running it
@@A_Spec thanks aspec you are the best!
Since this is the only video game I'm currently investing in, I'm buying it.
I cant wait
/it's 20 bucks
i can wait
Can orbital rings be destroyed by invading fleets, or are they a permanent addition to planets? I noticed that orbital rings have weapons on them, and I'm curious as to how they will affect space battles. Does this mean that fortress planets could actually defend themselves from enemy fleets?
Honestly, Overlord is best fun I`ve had in Stellaris in a while now. Becomming galaxy emperror not just de-jure with galactic community, but also de-facto with actuall vasals is now finally fun.
Only complaint I have is the lack of new music. The Nemesis theme is starting to get on my nerves every time I load the game up.
It had 4 new tracks
@@A_Spec 👀Just listened to them and they're great. Stargazer would be perfect in the main menu.