A few disclaimers to add after the fact: 1. I slip back and forth between saying "soccer" and "football". A lot of that has to do with habit, being American, soccer is what I've heard all my life, though I do try and call it football in context. 2. I've since been corrected that Welsh and English are 2 very different people, thank you for this correction and I hope any Welsh viewers understand. :) 3. I know I said European Leage, not English League. I know the difference, just a slip of the tongue.
@@Red_Snappa oh ya, great episode! John Green did like a mini crash course explaing it, and being a fan of his and knowing his history with the sport that was so cool. Then when I recorded all that info fell right out of my head.
Had South American friends that lived in Cardiff. Their parents would call regularly and ask how London was. In those moments they would feel Welsh, explaining it’s actually a different country who have their own language. Calling the Welsh English is a great way to insult.
It's not a English soccer club that plays out of Wales, it is a Welsh football club that plays in the English league system. I wouldn't recommend calling them a English soccer club. Not many in Wales would support it if it was. Wales and England are separate countries, with some of the most intense (historically driven) rivalries anywhere on earth.
@@BaileyOrdiway just to add, the reason a Welsh team is in the English football system is that Wales does not have a professional league. So the teams of the largest Welsh towns and cities (Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham) all play in the English leagues. I guess a bit like Toronto being in the MLS.
@@Brownwhale7 Wrong. The Welsh clubs were invited to play in the English leagues in the 1800's because Welsh football clubs were getting far higher attendances at their matches than the English clubs. We do have a league in this country where the clubs qualify for European competition. It's called the Cymru Premier.
@@goattm2 Wrong again...... the top Welsh clubs which were competing in the Southern league many many decades ago were invited to join the Football League in the early 1900s when there was a supremacy battle for top dog between the Football league and Southern League as to which was the top football league in England, Cardiff, Swansea, Merthyr, Aberdare and Newport in South Wales all joined up by invitation as well as Wrexham in North Wales at some point, with a number of now famous English teams who are also now competing in the Football league as opposed to formerly playing along with the Welsh clubs in the Southern League which lost the battle for supremacy of the two leagues.... nothing to do with crowds numbers at all.
Recent convert here. Wasn’t really interested in the game and only watched it because of Ryan. Now- I can’t say the same. I checked their stats weekly, watch highlights and interviews in RUclips, campaigned online for it to be globally streamed and just become an absolute fanatic.The community, their stories and the club really made an impact on how I view the sport. Much love and respect from down under ❤
It's a real shame that they weren't cleared to globally stream, but I'm definitely with you on this. I didn't expect to become a fan of them, and although I'm kinda wrestling with feeling like a traitor to Wimbledon, I still bought a scarf lol
Thanks for your support! I’m from Wrexham and it has been very odd watching our town in high definition on tv with Rob and Ryan 😅 It’s been great to see our town and football club through the eyes of people who’ve never been here - makes me realise how lucky we are to have such history in such a beautiful setting. I love that Americans seem to be appreciating football a lot lately - I think it won’t be long before you can stream the games. ❤ 🏴
John 11.25-26 Jesus said unto her I AM the resurrection and the life he that believes in me though he were dead yet shall he live and whosoever lives and belives in me shall never die believest thou this Amen
Wrexham is a football club, it is not just a team, hence way they all are FC. In America you have a franchise which is a privately owned team, not a club, it is the club that is at the heart of the community, it is basically a social club where members get together, it could be a working mens club or even a bowls club.
I’m a Man United supporter and I work occasionally in north Wales with a lot of Welsh lads, I’m pleased for Wrexham and the new owners seem very genuine about the club and also the local town, I find myself checking out Wrexham results each Saturday, the love is in the club and the city of Wrexham. Salford uk👍
Brabant and Holland don't have separate national teams, Wales and England do. As far as we are concerned, the English are our oldest, and only, enemy. 🏴 So it's like Netherlands and Germany.
1:13. Here’s how it makes sense: There’s a propensity in the UK to not name things in an obviously hierarchical manner to avoid tagging people in a way which might inadvertently allude to their degrees of wealth (or lack of) and social status. For example, the cheapest ticket on American Airlines is called “Basic Economy” whereas the cheapest ticket on British Airways is called “World Traveller”. It’s just a more polite way of labeling those with less money or status.
Good theory! But the reason UK Football leagues are named what they are is the result of a mess. In the olden days, all football was organised by the Football Association (FA). There was the 1st Division, 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th. Logical. Then the teams in the 1st Division weren't happy with how much money they were earning. They thought the FA (a group of old men in blazers) were holding them back. So they formed the Premier League. Then the "new" 1st Division, formerly the 2nd Division, did the same and formed the Championship. So the former 3rd Division was then the 1st Division of the FA. The result is what we have now.
It's not the European football pyramid structure, it's just the English one (which includes some Welsh teams). Pretty much every country in Europe has their own pyramid structure. These resemble the English one to greater or lesser extents, but are entirely standalone and have nothing to do with the Premier League/Championship etc.
Up until the advent of the Premier League in '92, the names of the various divisions made sense. The top division ( now Premier League) was League Division One, & the lower divisions followed in order - 2, 3, 4. What is now known as the National League was then the Conference.
I just looked it up after I read your comment cause it seems interesting... So I learned that they broke away and created the Premier League to sell TV and broadcast rights and nowadays they have an audience of 4.7 BILLION people. Largest watched sports broadcasts in the world. Thats a wild number. Thanks for the comment :)
Welcome to the Wrexham road trip , I’m a recent convert myself . The club is like a happy virus , your whole weekend either ruined or made perfect by one score line . The dragon has been asleep too long , this team in full flight will burn all before them , I’m convinced promotion can happen . I’m a kc cheifs fan myself, but now do look out for the eagles . All we ask for is maximum effort
I'm Welsh, never EVER say ( or associate ) that we are anything to do with the english. I've calmed down after reading your comment above (below at this point) I will now move on and watch the rest of your video ( and calm )
In fairness to the documentary… it’s does explain the difference between us ‘Welsh’ Wales 🏴…‘English’ England 🏴.. I mean it ain’t rocket science!🙄🙄🙄
@@BVking509 nope incorrect. There is the ‘Welsh premier league’ also! For many years we could play in the Welsh cup and it’s a route for ‘Welsh’ teams to play in Europe on the back of winning this!
Nothing to do with the English, eh? Yeah, how strange that anyone should associate a club that's played in the English football league for over a hundred years with England.
I grew up playing football with and living only a few houses away from an x afc Wimbledon manager who use to play for Wimbledon when they were in the Premier league.
AFC Wimbeldon has an amazing and complicated history. A club screwed over by ownership and revived by fans. You should read up on them, I think anybody would find it hard not to like them.
@@wsp2000 'Soccer' was used as an insult by the English Rugby Union crowd. They denigrated the working class and were against professional (paid) players. Rugby Union was an amateur sport until the 1980's, primarily because the players were from privileged backgrounds and had independent, often inherited incomes so they didn't need to play for money. 'Soccer' is a class war thing.
@@trym7549 Of course not. Americans have earned their reputation for being ignorant about other countries and cultures through sheer, ceaseless and dedicated hard work. My bad for forgetting what we all know and forgive.
@@lewilewis3944 i’m not saying they are not ignorent about the rest of the world, I have never understood the anger when americans call it soccer 🤷♂️ it’s what they have been brought up calling it since they got their own sport called football. For most europeans the reason they dont call it soccer is not because we know the history behind the word, it is because we are brought up calling it football
The documentary gives the impression that everyone in Wrexham and its surrounding areas are football-mad. I'm one of the ones who lives nearby and generally doesn't give a crap about football. I did enjoy the documentary, though, and I have to admit that I do check on Wrexham's progress every now and then. But it isn't life-or-death for me as it is for so many of the people in the documentary. If Wrexham fail to progress again, well... meh. I do remember when it was first announced that McElhenney and Reynolds were in talks to buy the club, though. I was waiting for the punchline. Whether I am interested in the football or not, it cannot be denied that those two guys have done huge things for the town in the last 18 months or so. There's an upbeat atmosphere in the town that I do not ever recall seeing before, and I've lived here for over 40 years. The town is still run-down and badly in need of work. If we could just stop the public from continuously electing the same bunch of self-serving councilors who do nothing for the place, that would be a good start. But at least there's something positive to talk about for a change, in place of the pot-holes, drug problems and town centre with hardly any shops. (And yes, most of us in Wrexham will always think of the place as a town, not a city.)
Can you please stop calling the beautiful game as soccer, it's called football, not to be confused with the sport I like to call throw ball. I'm glad you're showing an interest in the game I and billions around the world love but please call it for what it is football. Apart from that keep up the good work. ⚽️
I slip back and forth between the two a lot, mainly cause if I said football instead of soccer where I'm from than people get confused, so it's more of a habit than anything. Glad you liked the video, though!
Both are acceptable. Especially since the term 'soccer' was invented in the UK to specify which type of football was being described. SOCCER, which was 'Association Football' to specify from the other popular football games in England which were Rugby and Shrovetide. Rugby became the more popular in the US, Canada and other countries. In the US and Canada, it evolved into what they call football. Canada has its own football game that is extremely similar to the US version. Thus, in countries where other forms of football are more popular than Association Football, soccer is still used. Instead of being butthurt over a WORD, just be glad a person is getting into the game. Edit: One could argue that Aussie rules football is a sort of hybrid between rugby and shrovetide football. Shrovetide is the actual original football game played since the Middle Ages.
If you don't like the word soccer blame the Brits they came up with it. Oh btw the sport was called soccer for up to 70 years until the early 80s when football became the norm. We on the other hand have called our sport football for over 140 years since it was first played in colleges in the 1860s.
Using the first half of the Ship of Theseus philosophy experiment to describe a sports team. First I’ve heard of it but never been a more apt metaphor, especially coming from a Chicago Cubs fan.
I've heard it used to describe a company once in a meeting, but all I could think was that in applied to sports teams perfectly. I'm glad you liked it!
You know they certainly don't have the biggest money behind them, but they are able to create a global fan base when they are non-league, imagine in the next 10 years if they get 4 promotions. They could already be a global brand without having played in the PL. Hollywood can work.
What is the point of all America sports if theirs no promotion or relegation, what America's don't get is a small club surviving relegation is same buzz for the fans as the big teams winning the league.
There's at least ten tiers. By tier 7, the number of teams just explodes - there are some many tier 7+ teams. In principle you can start at the bottom and get to the Premiership. But tier 5 is the lowest professional one absolutely; although it gets a bit blurred - if you get relegated to tier 6 like York City was and then get back to the National League some of your playing staff may remain professional.
I played in the Welsh league 1st and 3rd teams which is the Welsh premiership but now all clubs can achieve anything as there is the national league and the Welsh league
There is the difference between having clubs and having franchises. You couldnt move wrexham to a different city because then it wouldn't be wrexham. The same with man utd or arsenal. You couldnt just up sticks and move them. They are where they are from
Oh damn, ya, and Paul Mulin is fantastic. It was fun rooting for them last season, but with them getting promoted to the same league as Wimbeldon I can't anymore lol
@Bailey Ordiway Yep Paul was absolutely brilliant for us in League Two a couple of years ago then took the big money move to Wrexham. I was disappointed to see Wimbledon relegated last season, one of my favourite Cambridge United away days and we 29n it with a brilliant goal from Adam May. Hopefully you'll come back up soon and beat MK Dons along the way
Just as a point. When your talking about wrexham football club or any team in England,Wales and Scotland at least give the respect to what we as a nation call it Football. I get it your from outside Europe and you call it soccer,but be respectful and call it what we all call it.
I think anybody that is a Wimbeldon supporter can appreciate the story of Wrexham and root for their success. Wimbeldon had their club stolen from them and had to rebuild from the ground up as a community, and fought their way back up. Wrexham seems to have an amazing community behind the club and I want them to do well. The only club I truly hate is the MK Dons. Fuck them.
@@BaileyOrdiway It's a shame you didn't say "I respect them and I appreciate their story", but instead "I am also now a Wrexham supporter". There's a problematic culture of glory-hunting in football, particularly among US fans unfortunately, and the Netflix documentary only perpetuates that further. You're much better off sticking with the Dons, if they're your first love.
great vid. one thing though. the national league is the lowest professional level in english football, not european football. that would probably be some hungarian 2nd division or something (sorry hungarians if you have a strong 2nd division)
It's football dear friend, football. Even if your goal is to enlighten others in the US. Provide a disclaimer at the beginning, indicating your intention; we must be the change we want in this world!
@@BaileyOrdiway haha no worries I can imagine how it might be confusing. Thought that was a great line from ted lasso. Sums it up pretty well actually 😆 We are 1 country, but we're also 4 countries too :)
Very polished presentation tbf...suprised you don't have more subs (so I've added on more for ya). Football-themed vlogs seem to be getting loads of traffic at the moment, boosted no doubt by the World Cup going on too. It's gone nuts in wrexham nowadays. I was at the match a couple of weeks back talking to some lads who'd come over from the States after seeing the docu-series and fancied sampling some of it. It's happening at a LOT of home games now...
Yeah tier system doesn’t make much sense, kinda like SAE measuring… By the way it’s not the European football league it’s the uk. Each country has its own. And international tournaments hosted by UEFA - champions league and so on
It's not even the UK football league. As you say, each country has its own leagues and the same is true for the countries of the UK. There are English, Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish leagues in the UK, each run by their different national Football Association (governing body). However, just because each nation has its own leagues, this does not mean all the teams competing in those leagues are from that country. There are various reasons, usually historical, why some clubs play in the league of a different country. Wrecsam (Welsh spelling), Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Merthyr are the current Welsh teams playing in English leagues. TNS are a hybrid English/Welsh team following a merger of two teams, who compete in the Welsh league but are based in England. The English club that was part of the merger, historically competed in the Welsh Cup. They are also based in an English border town that was historically Welsh and there are many Welsh speaking families that live in the area. One English club currently plays in the Scottish league. Berwick Rangers, who are based in an English border town. Berwick is similar to Oswestry, given their history as a border town and the town historically changing hands between each country. There are teams in Northern Ireland that play in the Republic of Ireland league like Derry City FC. This happens in other countries. Such as Canadian clubs like Toronto FC Montreal and Vancouver playing in the US league of MLS, despite Canada having her own league. There are many examples of this across Europe and the world. Each national league, even if they have foreign teams, will all have a majority of teams from their own country. Many clubs have historically been apart of the leagues of other countries because of historical reasons. Especially older clubs that predate many of the national leagues. But in recent decades many of these clubs have moved to the leagues of their own country.
As a Wimbledon fan, You should look into what happened with them & the MK Dons. It’ll aldo give u an insight into the american & british mentality to sports.
@@daffyduck1974 No I've never really talked about it, but I'd say my thoughts are the same as all Dons fans. Moving the club and expecting the fan base to remain was a betrayal, and naming them the Dons was downright stupid. But out of it came AFC Wimbeldon, who have many problems these days, but had a historic rise through the league and are completely fan owned. If any club other than Wrexham deserve a documentary it's them.
@Bailey Ordiway And you'll be playing Franchise FC (sorry MK Dons) next season, we basically sent them down. Hope you beat them. I went to Wimbledon away with Cambridge last season, it was a shame to see them go down
Oh dear. Reading the comments here and other videos. Look at everyone jumping on the bandwagon. “My team is Wrexham now. I hated soccer before but love it now”. What will happen, if the team climb up the leagues loads of people will be saying I supported them in the National league. Yes but were you there before Hollywood turned up. I am happy for all those fans who suffered those years stuck in the league, turned up every week or were passionate about them. But my God, I am Wrexham now, bet a few are those Glory supporting Man Utd fans.
They only play in the English league because three welsh teams were formed before the welsh league existed, so they were invited to stay. Also the ship argument is made easy by an episode of only fools amd horses. If you own a sweeping brush and over the years you change the broom handle twice but the brush end four times is it still the same broom stick....no it aint
Useless fact but the 1873 badge you show is now outdated as it was discovered a fair few years ago that the club was founded in 1864 in the Turf pub. The badge was changed to reflect that in about 2012
Where did you get that club badge? It’s an old one. The established year was revised to 1864, which makes us the 3rd oldest professional football team in the world. Kinda surprised you were able to stumble onto the old one tbh.
I honestly just searched like "Wrexham badge" or "Wrexham logo" on Google lol. I'm not familiar enough with the club to have known it was the wrong year. Good catch though!
@@BaileyOrdiway A researcher found a reference in a newspaper from 1879 which referred to the Wrexham club being founded “15 years ago”, so the badge was amended to 1864. Meanwhile, the club had opened its “Centenary Club” in 1973, when it was thought it had been founded in 1873…
Wrexham fans haven't been going there for years , all bandwagon jumping, I used to go in the seventies but live in Yorkshire now , used to be one man and his dog at Wrexham
Rob and Ryan don't make any decisions on players etc they know nothing about football that's why they have people working with them to do all that for them, The show is not about Rob and Ryan it's about the team the people and community.
Yeh it's mad, I'm Welsh and we're into it, even though I'm an Everton fan - BTW (it's not Soccer, we invented it and it's called 'Football' - AS ITS PLAYED WITH YOUR FEET, the NFL should be the NHL (National Handthrow League)
I'm not a fan of American football, I don't call it soccer cause of that. I only call it that cause it's what I was raised on. Our pro league is called "Major League Soccer". Calling it football here would just be super confusing in any conversation. It's like fries/chips trunk/boot. Just a cultural thing.
@@BaileyOrdiway No I understand 100% that was tongue-in-cheek. I always wondered who come up with the word 'soccer' as football, handball and basketball, for example are obvious they depict the sport but 'soccer' where did that com from?. BTW I love the NFL, watched it on Channel 4 from '83 onwards in the UK, top sport.
Something which I felt got repetitive about it is how they do keep saying it’s the heart of the community, like I do get it but they say it so many times and it’s no different to so many other towns and football clubs, even some premier league clubs that don’t share cities with of clubs, to me it just feels like some of the fans try to make it sound unique
You can't be a Wimbledon fan and a Wrexham fan. That's just not how it works. You also can't call Wrexham an English club. Seriously, you'll be detested by REAL Wrexham fans for both of those things.
Unfortunately, AYSO (children's soccer) is the average American's introduction to soccer. I can't think of a worse way to introduce the sport to non-soccer fans. With the rise of the USL (the U.S. "2nd & 3rd divisions"), I'm hoping small towns and cities throughout the U.S. can culturally attach themselves to their local USL teams the way they attach themselves to their local high school football teams. Shout out to Detroit City FC.
You're blame is misdirected. Wrexham gave Palmer a 3.5 year deal, which Wimbledon wasn't willing to do due to his age. If you didn't know this, then you're not a real fan.
STOP CALLING IT SOCCER!!!! Wrexham are not a battling underdog, they're a big club playing well below their true status. their level should be around top end of league one.
If your both a Wimbledon and Wrexham fan I don't think you've grasped what it means to be a British (or European) football fan. You only support one team (at least one in England and Wales) you can have second teams who you like to see do well or continental teams you follow. But really can only support one team. This isn't a American franchises, you should be loyal to your club and players through thick and thin. Football is much more than a sport to the British.
Glasgow rangers demoted to lowest tier in Scottish football first game playing against plumbers and delivery guys..... 50 thousand crowd would that happen in America ..... Soccer isn't a franchise its a religion..... And Hollywood couldn't write rangers script... Ten year later in European final...... Thats football that's a story that's belief
Never finished Deadpool, was junk! Never watched Sunny in Philadelphia, sounds average US dire TV! But Welcome To Wrexham is brilliant, and probably the best n most successful thing they will ever do!! That's the beauty of English football for ya! Smart move lads global audience guaranteed! 🤣🤣🤣
John 11.25-26 Jesus said unto her I AM the resurrection and the life he that believes in me though he were dead yet shall he live and whosoever lives and belives in me shall never die believest thou this Amen
Premier League isn't at all "the best of the best football teams". This is maybe the best national league (i don't think it is this season), but they're not the 20 best teams in the world, not even close. The best teams are Champions League's team. English have 4 teams in Champions League, so yeah, the top 4 (or 5) premier league teams are ones of the best, but the others ones are not. There are many onthers great teams. This season only one british team is in semi-final of Champions League, and only one team in the two others european cups. And the best club right now and ever, is Real Madrid, not a british team. The second best ever is Ac Milan, an italian club. These who have 14 and 7 Champions League, more than any others clubs, so they're the greatest clubs.
Its more of a cultural thing than anything. In America its called soccer, even in our pro league. It would be confusing as hell to call it football. But I played for years in school, and have been closely following a team for 10 years, so I've always liked the sport.
A few disclaimers to add after the fact:
1. I slip back and forth between saying "soccer" and "football". A lot of that has to do with habit, being American, soccer is what I've heard all my life, though I do try and call it football in context.
2. I've since been corrected that Welsh and English are 2 very different people, thank you for this correction and I hope any Welsh viewers understand. :)
3. I know I said European Leage, not English League. I know the difference, just a slip of the tongue.
We are welsh not English ! 🙄
Point No.2 is explained in great detail in Ep 7 - The Wide World of Wales.
@@Red_Snappa oh ya, great episode! John Green did like a mini crash course explaing it, and being a fan of his and knowing his history with the sport that was so cool. Then when I recorded all that info fell right out of my head.
Had South American friends that lived in Cardiff. Their parents would call regularly and ask how London was. In those moments they would feel Welsh, explaining it’s actually a different country who have their own language. Calling the Welsh English is a great way to insult.
MLS is the pro US soccer league
It's not a English soccer club that plays out of Wales, it is a Welsh football club that plays in the English league system.
I wouldn't recommend calling them a English soccer club.
Not many in Wales would support it if it was.
Wales and England are separate countries, with some of the most intense (historically driven) rivalries anywhere on earth.
My mistake, thanks for the correction on this!
@@BaileyOrdiway just to add, the reason a Welsh team is in the English football system is that Wales does not have a professional league. So the teams of the largest Welsh towns and cities (Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham) all play in the English leagues. I guess a bit like Toronto being in the MLS.
@@Brownwhale7 Wrong. The Welsh clubs were invited to play in the English leagues in the 1800's because Welsh football clubs were getting far higher attendances at their matches than the English clubs. We do have a league in this country where the clubs qualify for European competition. It's called the Cymru Premier.
@@goattm2 I stand corrected, diolch.
@@goattm2 Wrong again...... the top Welsh clubs which were competing in the Southern league many many decades ago were invited to join the Football League in the early 1900s when there was a supremacy battle for top dog between the Football league and Southern League as to which was the top football league in England, Cardiff, Swansea, Merthyr, Aberdare and Newport in South Wales all joined up by invitation as well as Wrexham in North Wales at some point, with a number of now famous English teams who are also now competing in the Football league as opposed to formerly playing along with the Welsh clubs in the Southern League which lost the battle for supremacy of the two leagues.... nothing to do with crowds numbers at all.
Recent convert here. Wasn’t really interested in the game and only watched it because of Ryan. Now- I can’t say the same. I checked their stats weekly, watch highlights and interviews in RUclips, campaigned online for it to be globally streamed and just become an absolute fanatic.The community, their stories and the club really made an impact on how I view the sport. Much love and respect from down under ❤
It's a real shame that they weren't cleared to globally stream, but I'm definitely with you on this. I didn't expect to become a fan of them, and although I'm kinda wrestling with feeling like a traitor to Wimbledon, I still bought a scarf lol
Thanks for your support! I’m from Wrexham and it has been very odd watching our town in high definition on tv with Rob and Ryan 😅 It’s been great to see our town and football club through the eyes of people who’ve never been here - makes me realise how lucky we are to have such history in such a beautiful setting. I love that Americans seem to be appreciating football a lot lately - I think it won’t be long before you can stream the games. ❤ 🏴
John 11.25-26 Jesus said unto her I AM the resurrection and the life he that believes in me though he were dead yet shall he live and whosoever lives and belives in me shall never die believest thou this Amen
Wrexham is a football club, it is not just a team, hence way they all are FC.
In America you have a franchise which is a privately owned team, not a club, it is the club that is at the heart of the community, it is basically a social club where members get together, it could be a working mens club or even a bowls club.
I’m a Man United supporter and I work occasionally in north Wales with a lot of Welsh lads, I’m pleased for Wrexham and the new owners seem very genuine about the club and also the local town, I find myself checking out Wrexham results each Saturday, the love is in the club and the city of Wrexham. Salford uk👍
Welsh club in Wales. That like calling a Canadian an American or a Dutch person German. Great video by the way.
It’s not, it’s like calling a person from Brabant a Hollander
Brabant and Holland don't have separate national teams, Wales and England do. As far as we are concerned, the English are our oldest, and only, enemy. 🏴 So it's like Netherlands and Germany.
@@MabDarogan2 🤣 🏴 you love us really taff
@@tobytaylor2154 like genital herpes
@@MabDarogan2 oh dear, full of hate, that's why you need ruling and hence all the castles 🤣
1:13. Here’s how it makes sense: There’s a propensity in the UK to not name things in an obviously hierarchical manner to avoid tagging people in a way which might inadvertently allude to their degrees of wealth (or lack of) and social status.
For example, the cheapest ticket on American Airlines is called “Basic Economy” whereas the cheapest ticket on British Airways is called “World Traveller”. It’s just a more polite way of labeling those with less money or status.
Good theory! But the reason UK Football leagues are named what they are is the result of a mess. In the olden days, all football was organised by the Football Association (FA). There was the 1st Division, 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th. Logical. Then the teams in the 1st Division weren't happy with how much money they were earning. They thought the FA (a group of old men in blazers) were holding them back. So they formed the Premier League. Then the "new" 1st Division, formerly the 2nd Division, did the same and formed the Championship. So the former 3rd Division was then the 1st Division of the FA. The result is what we have now.
It’s so nice to see my home city of Wrexham get some recognition and nice to see people learn about and support Wales as a country :)
It's not the European football pyramid structure, it's just the English one (which includes some Welsh teams). Pretty much every country in Europe has their own pyramid structure. These resemble the English one to greater or lesser extents, but are entirely standalone and have nothing to do with the Premier League/Championship etc.
Up until the advent of the Premier League in '92, the names of the various divisions made sense. The top division ( now Premier League) was League Division One, & the lower divisions followed in order - 2, 3, 4. What is now known as the National League was then the Conference.
I just looked it up after I read your comment cause it seems interesting... So I learned that they broke away and created the Premier League to sell TV and broadcast rights and nowadays they have an audience of 4.7 BILLION people. Largest watched sports broadcasts in the world. Thats a wild number. Thanks for the comment :)
@@BaileyOrdiway You're welcome. 👍
Welcome to the Wrexham road trip , I’m a recent convert myself . The club is like a happy virus , your whole weekend either ruined or made perfect by one score line . The dragon has been asleep too long , this team in full flight will burn all before them , I’m convinced promotion can happen . I’m a kc cheifs fan myself, but now do look out for the eagles . All we ask for is maximum effort
This is exactly how I became a fan of Wrexham it's a daily search for me an I'm from south Africa
I'm Welsh, never EVER say ( or associate ) that we are anything to do with the english. I've calmed down after reading your comment above (below at this point) I will now move on and watch the rest of your video ( and calm )
In fairness to the documentary… it’s does explain the difference between us ‘Welsh’ Wales 🏴…‘English’ England 🏴.. I mean it ain’t rocket science!🙄🙄🙄
They play with in the EFL the English Football League so keep your xenophobia under control. Without England there would be no WAFC
@@BVking509 nope incorrect. There is the ‘Welsh premier league’ also! For many years we could play in the Welsh cup and it’s a route for ‘Welsh’ teams to play in Europe on the back of winning this!
So Welsh that they don’t even play in the cynghrair pel droed cymru😂😂😂
Nothing to do with the English, eh? Yeah, how strange that anyone should associate a club that's played in the English football league for over a hundred years with England.
Well, well, well are wish came true, moving on up‼️🏆🇨🇦🏴🇺🇸🍻🍾
The Ship of Theseus? Wow, that's deep, deep into metaphysical weeds.
Felt a bit pretentious, but accurate either way lol
I grew up playing football with and living only a few houses away from an x afc Wimbledon manager who use to play for Wimbledon when they were in the Premier league.
I love that you use the Ship of Theseus is your metaphor!
Thank you! I almost didn't cause I thought it might be a bit much, but I'm glad I did.
they're not english bro
Omg I didn't know that about Ollie Palmer's previous team struggling without him! I'll be keeping an eye out for AFC Wimbledon as well, now!
AFC Wimbeldon has an amazing and complicated history. A club screwed over by ownership and revived by fans. You should read up on them, I think anybody would find it hard not to like them.
Soccer…… instantly gets people screaming around the world at you
I still don't really get why
@@wsp2000 'Soccer' was used as an insult by the English Rugby Union crowd. They denigrated the working class and were against professional (paid) players. Rugby Union was an amateur sport until the 1980's, primarily because the players were from privileged backgrounds and had independent, often inherited incomes so they didn't need to play for money.
'Soccer' is a class war thing.
and obviously every american is supposed to know this…
@@trym7549 Of course not. Americans have earned their reputation for being ignorant about other countries and cultures through sheer, ceaseless and dedicated hard work. My bad for forgetting what we all know and forgive.
@@lewilewis3944 i’m not saying they are not ignorent about the rest of the world, I have never understood the anger when americans call it soccer 🤷♂️ it’s what they have been brought up calling it since they got their own sport called football. For most europeans the reason they dont call it soccer is not because we know the history behind the word, it is because we are brought up calling it football
The documentary gives the impression that everyone in Wrexham and its surrounding areas are football-mad. I'm one of the ones who lives nearby and generally doesn't give a crap about football. I did enjoy the documentary, though, and I have to admit that I do check on Wrexham's progress every now and then. But it isn't life-or-death for me as it is for so many of the people in the documentary. If Wrexham fail to progress again, well... meh.
I do remember when it was first announced that McElhenney and Reynolds were in talks to buy the club, though. I was waiting for the punchline.
Whether I am interested in the football or not, it cannot be denied that those two guys have done huge things for the town in the last 18 months or so. There's an upbeat atmosphere in the town that I do not ever recall seeing before, and I've lived here for over 40 years. The town is still run-down and badly in need of work. If we could just stop the public from continuously electing the same bunch of self-serving councilors who do nothing for the place, that would be a good start. But at least there's something positive to talk about for a change, in place of the pot-holes, drug problems and town centre with hardly any shops.
(And yes, most of us in Wrexham will always think of the place as a town, not a city.)
Fair enough but these guys seem to mean well and if it does the city of Wrexham good then 👍, Salford uk
Can you please stop calling the beautiful game as soccer, it's called football, not to be confused with the sport I like to call throw ball. I'm glad you're showing an interest in the game I and billions around the world love but please call it for what it is football. Apart from that keep up the good work. ⚽️
I slip back and forth between the two a lot, mainly cause if I said football instead of soccer where I'm from than people get confused, so it's more of a habit than anything. Glad you liked the video, though!
Both are acceptable. Especially since the term 'soccer' was invented in the UK to specify which type of football was being described. SOCCER, which was 'Association Football' to specify from the other popular football games in England which were Rugby and Shrovetide. Rugby became the more popular in the US, Canada and other countries. In the US and Canada, it evolved into what they call football. Canada has its own football game that is extremely similar to the US version. Thus, in countries where other forms of football are more popular than Association Football, soccer is still used. Instead of being butthurt over a WORD, just be glad a person is getting into the game.
Edit: One could argue that Aussie rules football is a sort of hybrid between rugby and shrovetide football. Shrovetide is the actual original football game played since the Middle Ages.
If you don't like the word soccer blame the Brits they came up with it. Oh btw the sport was called soccer for up to 70 years until the early 80s when football became the norm. We on the other hand have called our sport football for over 140 years since it was first played in colleges in the 1860s.
Yes you may call it soccer,but show respect it’s Football.
@@brianeleighton dude Aussie rules is just Gaelic football on steroids.
Using the first half of the Ship of Theseus philosophy experiment to describe a sports team. First I’ve heard of it but never been a more apt metaphor, especially coming from a Chicago Cubs fan.
I've heard it used to describe a company once in a meeting, but all I could think was that in applied to sports teams perfectly. I'm glad you liked it!
I got that reference from wandavision
Anyone loving the game will call it football. Not the atrocity of that other word.
Born in Wrexham..🏴
You know they certainly don't have the biggest money behind them, but they are able to create a global fan base when they are non-league, imagine in the next 10 years if they get 4 promotions. They could already be a global brand without having played in the PL. Hollywood can work.
What is the point of all America sports if theirs no promotion or relegation, what America's don't get is a small club surviving relegation is same buzz for the fans as the big teams winning the league.
I love the rage that 'soccer' provokes to in people not knowing the history of the word.
This happened to me and now I'm going to their game in NC.
There's at least ten tiers. By tier 7, the number of teams just explodes - there are some many tier 7+ teams.
In principle you can start at the bottom and get to the Premiership.
But tier 5 is the lowest professional one absolutely; although it gets a bit blurred - if you get relegated to tier 6 like York City was and then get back to the National League some of your playing staff may remain professional.
love the video new here nice to see a good quality video surprised you don't have more subscribers
Been grinding at it a few years now, I'll get there! Thanks for the support :)
Just want to note that there is no "European football league". Other countries have their own leagues and pyramids!
I played in the Welsh league 1st and 3rd teams which is the Welsh premiership but now all clubs can achieve anything as there is the national league and the Welsh league
What did you play? I played goalkeeper in grade school, which I'll admit is slightly less impressive.
@@BaileyOrdiway started as left back...then left wing nothing special
Its only the english system not the as you said the "european" one.
Great video but important correction... Wrexham AFC s a Welsh (soccer) football club that plays in the English National League .
I am a Wrexham supporter now as well... and it's the only team I know in that league
Well they're in League 2 now, the first league that's actually considered professional. My team was relegated last season so plays in that league too.
There is the difference between having clubs and having franchises. You couldnt move wrexham to a different city because then it wouldn't be wrexham. The same with man utd or arsenal. You couldnt just up sticks and move them. They are where they are from
Exactly. Which is why when Wimbeldon FC was moved and reformed as the MK Dons, they're not The Dons. AFC Wimbeldon are The Dons.
I understand your annoyance towards Wrexham, as a Cambridge United fan they took Paul Mulin from us after we got promoted to League One
Oh damn, ya, and Paul Mulin is fantastic. It was fun rooting for them last season, but with them getting promoted to the same league as Wimbeldon I can't anymore lol
@Bailey Ordiway Yep Paul was absolutely brilliant for us in League Two a couple of years ago then took the big money move to Wrexham. I was disappointed to see Wimbledon relegated last season, one of my favourite Cambridge United away days and we 29n it with a brilliant goal from Adam May. Hopefully you'll come back up soon and beat MK Dons along the way
Wrexham is a club for everybody to support, even if it's your 2nd team. Watch ' Welcome to Wrexham '
You'll know what I mean.
Great video!
Thanks! I definitely like them quite a bit, but I won't lie, if they get promoted and play Wimbeldon next year, I'm backing the Dons lol
Well articulated! Right here with you on this one 👍
Thanks! I'm happy to see people enjoying it just as much as I am.
Just as a point. When your talking about wrexham football club or any team in England,Wales and Scotland at least give the respect to what we as a nation call it Football. I get it your from outside Europe and you call it soccer,but be respectful and call it what we all call it.
Well done 👏👏👏
Much appreciated!
Great review
Thanks!
"I've supported Wimbledon for years but I watched a Netflix documentary and now I support Wrexham"
Yeah, this is why Brits laugh at Americans
I think anybody that is a Wimbeldon supporter can appreciate the story of Wrexham and root for their success. Wimbeldon had their club stolen from them and had to rebuild from the ground up as a community, and fought their way back up. Wrexham seems to have an amazing community behind the club and I want them to do well. The only club I truly hate is the MK Dons. Fuck them.
@@BaileyOrdiway It's a shame you didn't say "I respect them and I appreciate their story", but instead "I am also now a Wrexham supporter". There's a problematic culture of glory-hunting in football, particularly among US fans unfortunately, and the Netflix documentary only perpetuates that further. You're much better off sticking with the Dons, if they're your first love.
great vid. one thing though. the national league is the lowest professional level in english football, not european football. that would probably be some hungarian 2nd division or something (sorry hungarians if you have a strong 2nd division)
It's football dear friend, football. Even if your goal is to enlighten others in the US. Provide a disclaimer at the beginning, indicating your intention; we must be the change we want in this world!
ITS FOOTBALL FOOTBALL FOOTBALL
How many countries are in this country!? ☺️ love how confusing Britain is for Americans.
Honestly, yes lol. I never learned anything about it in school. So I'm gonna shift blame to the public education system.
@@BaileyOrdiway haha no worries I can imagine how it might be confusing. Thought that was a great line from ted lasso. Sums it up pretty well actually 😆 We are 1 country, but we're also 4 countries too :)
@Midnight Wolfee LOVE Ted Lasso! In the middle it rewatching it right now.
The United Kingdom consists of England,Scotland,Northern Ireland and Wales. Hope that helps 👍🏻
I think of Rob from the Apple TV show mythic quest
I just did a video on Mythic Quest! I watched it cause I wanted to check out more of his stuff after watching this show.
Listen if you haven't seen mythic Quest Rob is brilliant. Love love this Documentary btw
Just covered it in my most recent video actually :) check it out
Very polished presentation tbf...suprised you don't have more subs (so I've added on more for ya). Football-themed vlogs seem to be getting loads of traffic at the moment, boosted no doubt by the World Cup going on too. It's gone nuts in wrexham nowadays. I was at the match a couple of weeks back talking to some lads who'd come over from the States after seeing the docu-series and fancied sampling some of it. It's happening at a LOT of home games now...
Very polished? He seems literally fucking clueless, idk how u can even say that
Yeah tier system doesn’t make much sense, kinda like SAE measuring…
By the way it’s not the European football league it’s the uk. Each country has its own. And international tournaments hosted by UEFA - champions league and so on
It's not even the UK football league. As you say, each country has its own leagues and the same is true for the countries of the UK. There are English, Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish leagues in the UK, each run by their different national Football Association (governing body).
However, just because each nation has its own leagues, this does not mean all the teams competing in those leagues are from that country. There are various reasons, usually historical, why some clubs play in the league of a different country.
Wrecsam (Welsh spelling), Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Merthyr are the current Welsh teams playing in English leagues.
TNS are a hybrid English/Welsh team following a merger of two teams, who compete in the Welsh league but are based in England. The English club that was part of the merger, historically competed in the Welsh Cup. They are also based in an English border town that was historically Welsh and there are many Welsh speaking families that live in the area.
One English club currently plays in the Scottish league. Berwick Rangers, who are based in an English border town. Berwick is similar to Oswestry, given their history as a border town and the town historically changing hands between each country.
There are teams in Northern Ireland that play in the Republic of Ireland league like Derry City FC.
This happens in other countries. Such as Canadian clubs like Toronto FC Montreal and Vancouver playing in the US league of MLS, despite Canada having her own league.
There are many examples of this across Europe and the world. Each national league, even if they have foreign teams, will all have a majority of teams from their own country. Many clubs have historically been apart of the leagues of other countries because of historical reasons. Especially older clubs that predate many of the national leagues. But in recent decades many of these clubs have moved to the leagues of their own country.
Does anyone know how American Football got named football?
From what I know it was originally football but then incorporated parts of rugby and evolved from there but as it evolved it just kept the name.
Welsh… we’re Welsh. Not English.. Welsh club playing the English pyramid system !
Your Welsh,l ? Sorry too hear that 😢
@@pinkfloydmayweather861 stay on the dark side of the moon la 🙄
Best part of the moon la
@@pinkfloydmayweather861 shine on you crazy diamond
As a Wimbledon fan, You should look into what happened with them & the MK Dons. It’ll aldo give u an insight into the american & british mentality to sports.
I'm aware of the history, I don't think you can really be a Dons fan without knowing it.
@@BaileyOrdiway oh good have u done a vlog i’d love to hear your thoughts
@@daffyduck1974 No I've never really talked about it, but I'd say my thoughts are the same as all Dons fans. Moving the club and expecting the fan base to remain was a betrayal, and naming them the Dons was downright stupid. But out of it came AFC Wimbeldon, who have many problems these days, but had a historic rise through the league and are completely fan owned. If any club other than Wrexham deserve a documentary it's them.
@Bailey Ordiway And you'll be playing Franchise FC (sorry MK Dons) next season, we basically sent them down. Hope you beat them. I went to Wimbledon away with Cambridge last season, it was a shame to see them go down
Oh dear. Reading the comments here and other videos. Look at everyone jumping on the bandwagon. “My team is Wrexham now. I hated soccer before but love it now”. What will happen, if the team climb up the leagues loads of people will be saying I supported them in the National league. Yes but were you there before Hollywood turned up. I am happy for all those fans who suffered those years stuck in the league, turned up every week or were passionate about them. But my God, I am Wrexham now, bet a few are those Glory supporting Man Utd fans.
Rob McElhenney's superhero character is "the shadow"
They only play in the English league because three welsh teams were formed before the welsh league existed, so they were invited to stay. Also the ship argument is made easy by an episode of only fools amd horses. If you own a sweeping brush and over the years you change the broom handle twice but the brush end four times is it still the same broom stick....no it aint
Try watching Sunderland 'till I die. It'll break your heart.
I'll check it out tonight, thank you!
That's a great watch too
Useless fact but the 1873 badge you show is now outdated as it was discovered a fair few years ago that the club was founded in 1864 in the Turf pub. The badge was changed to reflect that in about 2012
Where did you get that club badge? It’s an old one. The established year was revised to 1864, which makes us the 3rd oldest professional football team in the world. Kinda surprised you were able to stumble onto the old one tbh.
I honestly just searched like "Wrexham badge" or "Wrexham logo" on Google lol. I'm not familiar enough with the club to have known it was the wrong year. Good catch though!
@@BaileyOrdiway A researcher found a reference in a newspaper from 1879 which referred to the Wrexham club being founded “15 years ago”, so the badge was amended to 1864. Meanwhile, the club had opened its “Centenary Club” in 1973, when it was thought it had been founded in 1873…
ASL? 😆 also it used be division 1,2,3,4 which was easier yes
There used the like that with a single governing body…
- premier ship
- English football league
- National league
Hop this clears it up
Wrexham fans haven't been going there for years , all bandwagon jumping, I used to go in the seventies but live in Yorkshire now , used to be one man and his dog at Wrexham
Highly rude. Who should watch you!
Your using the wrong club badge the correct one says 1864 not 1873
Rob and Ryan don't make any decisions on players etc they know nothing about football that's why they have people working with them to do all that for them, The show is not about Rob and Ryan it's about the team the people and community.
7:00 John dies at the end argument... kind of.
My home team Maidenhead are gonna beat Wrexham this Saturday 👊🏻
Yeh it's mad, I'm Welsh and we're into it, even though I'm an Everton fan - BTW (it's not Soccer, we invented it and it's called 'Football' - AS ITS PLAYED WITH YOUR FEET, the NFL should be the NHL (National Handthrow League)
I'm not a fan of American football, I don't call it soccer cause of that. I only call it that cause it's what I was raised on. Our pro league is called "Major League Soccer". Calling it football here would just be super confusing in any conversation. It's like fries/chips trunk/boot. Just a cultural thing.
@@BaileyOrdiway No I understand 100% that was tongue-in-cheek. I always wondered who come up with the word 'soccer' as football, handball and basketball, for example are obvious they depict the sport but 'soccer' where did that com from?. BTW I love the NFL, watched it on Channel 4 from '83 onwards in the UK, top sport.
English invented it not welsh
@@pinkfloydmayweather861 I say 'WE' As we share the same passports and fight wars together m8. I can see how you mis-read it it though.
When it suits ey
Something which I felt got repetitive about it is how they do keep saying it’s the heart of the community, like I do get it but they say it so many times and it’s no different to so many other towns and football clubs, even some premier league clubs that don’t share cities with of clubs, to me it just feels like some of the fans try to make it sound unique
You can't be a Wimbledon fan and a Wrexham fan. That's just not how it works.
You also can't call Wrexham an English club.
Seriously, you'll be detested by REAL Wrexham fans for both of those things.
You used the Wrong badge the date is wrong should be 1864 UTST
Unfortunately, AYSO (children's soccer) is the average American's introduction to soccer. I can't think of a worse way to introduce the sport to non-soccer fans. With the rise of the USL (the U.S. "2nd & 3rd divisions"), I'm hoping small towns and cities throughout the U.S. can culturally attach themselves to their local USL teams the way they attach themselves to their local high school football teams. Shout out to Detroit City FC.
It's not the European League it's the English league
You're blame is misdirected.
Wrexham gave Palmer a 3.5 year deal, which Wimbledon wasn't willing to do due to his age.
If you didn't know this, then you're not a real fan.
STOP CALLING IT SOCCER!!!! Wrexham are not a battling underdog, they're a big club playing well below their true status. their level should be around top end of league one.
We are Welsh, ffs do your homework before you insult a whole nation.
Insulting the English tbf
Woking fc 🔴⚪️❤ the nation league is where it’s at 👍 premier league is all about money … it’s meant to be the peoples game
Football*
If you Are a Fan of european Football, don‘t Call it Soccer! 😂❤
If your both a Wimbledon and Wrexham fan I don't think you've grasped what it means to be a British (or European) football fan. You only support one team (at least one in England and Wales) you can have second teams who you like to see do well or continental teams you follow. But really can only support one team. This isn't a American franchises, you should be loyal to your club and players through thick and thin. Football is much more than a sport to the British.
They play in different leagues, so I don't have to worry about them competing. If they're ever in the same league, Wrexham can go to hell. Lol
I am not cheating on Chelsea with Wrexham lol
It's called football
It's not the European league
Glasgow rangers demoted to lowest tier in Scottish football first game playing against plumbers and delivery guys..... 50 thousand crowd would that happen in America ..... Soccer isn't a franchise its a religion..... And Hollywood couldn't write rangers script... Ten year later in European final...... Thats football that's a story that's belief
Football...
English football league
Football
It’s not English! Wales is in Wales
Never finished Deadpool, was junk! Never watched Sunny in Philadelphia, sounds average US dire TV! But Welcome To Wrexham is brilliant, and probably the best n most successful thing they will ever do!! That's the beauty of English football for ya! Smart move lads global audience guaranteed! 🤣🤣🤣
NOT AN A CLUB FROM ENGLAND ... THEY ARE FROM WALES .... GOOD START ...NOT .
John 11.25-26 Jesus said unto her I AM the resurrection and the life he that believes in me though he were dead yet shall he live and whosoever lives and belives in me shall never die believest thou this Amen
soccer fan doesn't exist.
WELSH SOCCER CLUB
It's football not soccer
Premier League isn't at all "the best of the best football teams". This is maybe the best national league (i don't think it is this season), but they're not the 20 best teams in the world, not even close. The best teams are Champions League's team. English have 4 teams in Champions League, so yeah, the top 4 (or 5) premier league teams are ones of the best, but the others ones are not. There are many onthers great teams. This season only one british team is in semi-final of Champions League, and only one team in the two others european cups. And the best club right now and ever, is Real Madrid, not a british team. The second best ever is Ac Milan, an italian club. These who have 14 and 7 Champions League, more than any others clubs, so they're the greatest clubs.
Let’s get one thing Straight it’s not F ing “Soccer”, it football . You know clues in the name, FFS. You kick a ball with your foot
Stop calling it soccer, is Football. This game began to be play before american football.
maybe Americans love this
'difficult promotion' while spending 10x the amount of anyone else, what a joke
If you indeed got into "Soccer" you don't call it "Soccer"... So just make pretend.
Its more of a cultural thing than anything. In America its called soccer, even in our pro league. It would be confusing as hell to call it football. But I played for years in school, and have been closely following a team for 10 years, so I've always liked the sport.