Those broom substitute supports were good, nice and easy to deploy. I'm sure at least one thing gets overlooked in every project, no matter how big or small. Shame there was no lingering pan around the finished job. Save that for next time..... Atb to you all for the new year; looking forward to the first cup of tea in the above mentioned shed.
Hiya Ade. Happy Xmas and New Year to you all my friend. Yep - should have panned around after last board fixed into place. Definitely looking forward to my first cuppa mate. Best wishes all, Des
Hard work pays off. Well done! Perhaps you could pan around the inside and out for the start of your next video. Would be nice to see a full view of the current stage
I'd say you have about had your money's worth out of that impact driver now ;-) Where would we be without such tools! As my old man always remind me, "you don't know you are born these days, all we had was one phillips and one flat screwdriver and a bloody strong arm!" You are never going to think of everything before the project, looked like you came up with good solutions to me to your problems. Hope you have a nice Christmas break and all the best for 2020!
Happy Christmas to you and yours my friend. That impact driver has been a god send as is always my go-to tool for this sort of stuff. I rarely use the combi drill now for anything other than drilling. have a good one. Des
Great instructional videos, they're the best I have found and so helpful, thank you :) Got a question regarding insulation please. We are looking at insulating our single brick garage and were going to do; DPM on the brick> timber frame > glasswool/polystyrene insulation between timber battons > plasterboard/OSB fixed to timber. Do you think this would work? Or would it work better as; Breather membrane on brick > timber frame > glasswool/polystyrene insulation between timber battons > DPM attached to battons > plasterboard/OSB? Thank you for reading.
Outside of cost, do you have any recommendations on using painted OSB or painted hardwood plywood for interior walls? Once it is properly painted, how splintery is OSB?
Hi there. Painted ply will definitely give you the smoothest and best finish by far. Also, Be aware that there are 2 sides to OSB, one is rougher than the other. OSB arguably adds character but it depends what you're aiming for. Hope this helps, Des
I have boarded thermal bubble wrap behind some OSB boarding that I purchased. I'll be spending about 10hrs a day in the 'cave'. Is the OSB dangerous to breathe in for periods of time being in there or no harmful gasses given from anything on the wood?
Good question that. I'm not a chemist but I think you'll be fine. If concerned though, obviously make sure you have adequate ventilation. I personally wouldn't be too concerned buddy. Des
Great vid and lots of good advice for my build too. What are you using for insulation? I was planning on fiberglass insulation and then using OSB or ply board. Hadn't thought to use plastic sheeting between insulation and board. Any suggestions for OSB over ply for the wall choice? Thanks :-)
Hiya buddy. Just used 200mm attic top up insulation from Wickes. More than adequate and perfectly appropriate for a job like this. Plus, very inexpensive if purchased in a promotion - in fact probably the cheapest option available if bought right. You'll also find that it won;t irritate the skin or cause rashes like your old fibre glass type insulation Plywood is arguably stronger but completely unnecessary. Go for OSB - far stronger and very, very strong. Hope this helps my friend. Stay safe and well. Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Thanks a lot Des. I gave all my spare rock wool loft insulation to my dad after renovating my house, and he is giving me the fiberglass. I get the feeling he is happy to be rid of it. :-). But since it's free, it would be rude not to, otherwise I totally agree, the rock wool would be perfect. Ace. I'll get checking out the OSB tonight then. Thanks a lot for the advice and well wishes. And same to you and family, stay safe.
Really inspiring to watch and making me feel I could have a go at doing this myself. Thanks for documenting it all. If you don't mind me asking, how much were all the materials? I'm guessing somewhere between 1-2k
Hi there. Good question. Yes, plasterboard can be used for sure. However, im rather clumsy and always banging into stuff so I thought Id use somthing more durable. ATB, Des
Hiya buddy. Certainly didn't make them my friend.You appear to have more faith in my abilities than I have in myself lol. I bought mine several years ago in a sale from Machine Mart and they're excellent. These appear to be almost identical: www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cht711-extension-support-arms-pair/
would i need to line my walls with that plastic membrain if i am using celotex PIR insulation with aluminium taped on the joists to seal it? a bit of an overkill i would think.
Hi there, although I've never used the celotex product you're referring to I've had a quick look at the description. I would personally take a chance and not bother with the plastic membrane. Providing the joins are sealed properly with tape and the foil is is not damaged I would think it would effectively keep moisture out which is the whole point of the plastic membrane I put in. However, it might be worthwhile seeking a professional opini0on on that one or checking on forums, etc. ATB, Des
Hi, thanks, i've been looking at a lot of shed building in uk, to see how other people insulated there builds, so there is a lot of options out there, i do have a few rolls of tyvex house wrap, not sure if it can be used on the inside of the build though, and do you know if it can be used on the roof of my build? then cover it with super shed felt. -Regards pete-
Thanks very much. I used decking screws. Plse see links below. Obviously choose the length of screw which meets the majority of your needs. Always go longer if you're unsure. www.screwfix.com/p/timbadeck-double-countersunk-carbon-steel-decking-screws-4-5-x-75mm-500-pack/99621 www.screwfix.com/p/timbadeck-double-countersunk-carbon-steel-decking-screws-4-5-x-65mm-500-pack/73014 www.screwfix.com/p/timbadeck-double-countersunk-carbon-steel-decking-screws-4-5-x-65mm-500-pack/34251
Hi I want to do roof felt and insulation same as yours but I have to put electricity inside, I have got questions if you don’t mind. Did you get any water from the rain or any dump this winter I just want to make my shed waterproof. Any suggestions please. I appreciate your help 👍
Not a single drop my friend. Absolutely bone dry. Your electrics will be fine providing you use a good quality felt like I have done (do not under any circumstances simply use the cheapest stuff you can find - you'll regret it - it tears like paper and won't last 2 minutes) and also make decent overlaps and seal using a decent quality felt adhesive. Also, try and lay your wires on the edge of the insulation (i.e. along the timbers) rather than say sandwiched between the insulation to minimise small chance of overheating. Go for it. You'll be fine mate, Des
Hi there. If you're not heating it you have to decide firstly whether it's actually worth lining and whether you want to insulate it. If so, I'd personally batten out walls, infill with sheets of polystyrene , line with OSB or plasterboard. Although normal plasterboard is cheaper you must remember that it's nowhere near as durable as OSB and if your shed gets damp then it will deteriorate. Personally, I'd use either 12 or 18mm OSB . Hope this helps, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 thanks des, yeah it’s only for a gym in a cement shed. Trying to line it cheap and with what will last in Irish cold damp weather
If the vapour barrier stops the vapour from reaching the insulation and causing damp and rot then we’re does the vapour go when it hits the barrier. Would it not rot the OSB plywood in the same way.
Hi there and thanks for watching. Firstly, there's water vapour all around in the air we breathe and in every nook and cranny. It should eventually evaporate in small enough quantities. Secondly, if there's adequate ventilation it shouldn't be a problem so don't worry about it. Thirdly, OSB is naturally resistant to rot anyway because it is made up of loads of layers of strategically placed wooden fibres and strips which are all glued together with a cocktail of resins, etc. If you live in a climate similar to the UK this is definitely the way to go IF you are going to heat the building and spend lots of time in there. HOWEVER, if you're just going to use it as a shed then you don't need to insulate or line it. This will save you a lot of unnecessary time and expense from which you will receive no benefit. Stay safe and well, Des
21st Century Caveman thanks. I’m at the beginning stage of planning my man cave and just finding the best way. Some say to use a vapour barrier and some say not. Little bit confusing.Thank you for your information. 👍 uk based
Hi, can I ask how long it took please until completion, I am currently at vid 18 and am myself building a small office 7ftx7ft. I am doing probably 3-4 hrs a night and have done about 8 days so far. Can't wait to watch the rest of the vids thanks for filming this man, peace to you.
Hi there. Thanks so much for watching the series. It's really difficult to say because I just kept going back to it when i had time. Therefore, the time factor wasnt something i paid any real attention to. Sorry, Des
Very nice Tho I’m a bit careful with my money as you seem to be too and I don’t like buying tools just for one job. Did you buy them ceiling raisers just for this job
Hiya buddy. No, not at all. I've had them for @ 12 years when I did a couple of ceiling plastering jobs. They're excellent and were well worth buying even though I only use them occasionally. However, you can get by with 2 lengths of timber - 1 long and 1 short. Screw the shorter one to the longer one to give you a 'T' shape and use this to prop up boards like this. You just need to gauge the length of the longer timber to make sure it reaches the ceiling and is long enough to prop up boards. Hope this helps, Des
We have ordered a summerhouse that we will insulate and board ourselves , we have opted for the breathable membrane attached to exterior timber walls , then we plan to add rock wool 50mm for insulation , will we need a moisture barrier before boards even with the breathable membrane attached to the structure ?
Absolutely yes. Plse see comments and answers to similar questions in this series. It is imperative that you protect the internal insulation from moisture ingress. Best wishes, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 cheers des , even if using exterior grade (structural) ply board ? Could you please advise on best moisture layer material to use , many thanks appreciate your time
Hi there. Very good question indeed. I think you'll find that even most structural grade ply has NOT been treated or rot proofed and therefore still needs treating. So, unless you go for very expensive marine ply then most exterior, structural ply available in your typical hardware stores will not be moisture resistant until treated. I personally went for this: www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-1000-Gauge-Black-Damp-Proof-Membrane---4-x-12-5m/p/152859# This would also work well and is a third cheaper but only half as thick: www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Green-Polythene-Vapour-Barrier---2-5-x-20m/p/153230?scid=scplp153230&sc_intid=153230&ds_rl=1255408&ds_rl=1255411&ds_rl=1256312&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8rT8BRCbARIsALWiOvQk_g79CXKtNsOe4_58DM_jbKV51oXj7cLV3KEH7G7sgoicNaVvTO8aArovEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds# Have a great evening where you are, Des
Spot on (BUT the membrane needs to be completely waterproof and NOT breathable to protect the insulation from moisture in the warm air within the summerhouse).
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Love this series - looking forward to the window and door fitting :)
Thanks for leaving in the mistakes/errors/oversites.
H there and thanks for your continued support. Hope you're enjoying some quality time with your family over Xmas and New Year period. ATB, Des
A true 'have a go hero'! Got stuck in, made mistakes, and learned the hard way. Well done.
Thank you. Appreciate your support. Des
Have a great Christmas....🎄🎁 Looking forward to more videos, great work 👍
Same to you my friend. Take care, Des
Coming along nicely. Took me back to when i boarded my ceiling on my own with no props. That was a funny video lol. Stressed me right out😅😅😅
Been there, got the T-shirt mate. ATB, Des
I totally agree with you that DIY skills are advantageous.
Great minds ..... lol. ATB, Des
Great video as always. Bet you were glad of those acrow props.
Absolutely, they came in handy for sure. Every one is an extra pr of hands mate. Best wishes, Des
Those broom substitute supports were good, nice and easy to deploy. I'm sure at least one thing gets overlooked in every project, no matter how big or small. Shame there was no lingering pan around the finished job. Save that for next time..... Atb to you all for the new year; looking forward to the first cup of tea in the above mentioned shed.
Hiya Ade. Happy Xmas and New Year to you all my friend. Yep - should have panned around after last board fixed into place. Definitely looking forward to my first cuppa mate. Best wishes all, Des
Great work, Des. Coming along nicely matey :-)
Thanks very much buddy. Have a good one. Des
Great job & it looks like you got it closed up against the eliments just in time 👍
So close!
Hard work pays off. Well done!
Perhaps you could pan around the inside and out for the start of your next video. Would be nice to see a full view of the current stage
Yes of course. Vids on their way my friend. ATB, Des
a good progress des enjoyed the video
Thank you my friend. Slowly but surely .... Have a god one, Des
I'd say you have about had your money's worth out of that impact driver now ;-) Where would we be without such tools! As my old man always remind me, "you don't know you are born these days, all we had was one phillips and one flat screwdriver and a bloody strong arm!"
You are never going to think of everything before the project, looked like you came up with good solutions to me to your problems.
Hope you have a nice Christmas break and all the best for 2020!
Happy Christmas to you and yours my friend. That impact driver has been a god send as is always my go-to tool for this sort of stuff. I rarely use the combi drill now for anything other than drilling. have a good one. Des
Great instructional videos, they're the best I have found and so helpful, thank you :)
Got a question regarding insulation please. We are looking at insulating our single brick garage and were going to do; DPM on the brick> timber frame > glasswool/polystyrene insulation between timber battons > plasterboard/OSB fixed to timber. Do you think this would work?
Or would it work better as; Breather membrane on brick > timber frame > glasswool/polystyrene insulation between timber battons > DPM attached to battons > plasterboard/OSB?
Thank you for reading.
No problem at all. My pleasure. Will you be heating the inside of this building?
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Yes, with an electric heater - looking to use it as a home office
Outside of cost, do you have any recommendations on using painted OSB or painted hardwood plywood for interior walls? Once it is properly painted, how splintery is OSB?
Hi there. Painted ply will definitely give you the smoothest and best finish by far. Also, Be aware that there are 2 sides to OSB, one is rougher than the other. OSB arguably adds character but it depends what you're aiming for. Hope this helps, Des
I have boarded thermal bubble wrap behind some OSB boarding that I purchased. I'll be spending about 10hrs a day in the 'cave'. Is the OSB dangerous to breathe in for periods of time being in there or no harmful gasses given from anything on the wood?
Good question that. I'm not a chemist but I think you'll be fine. If concerned though, obviously make sure you have adequate ventilation. I personally wouldn't be too concerned buddy. Des
Great vid and lots of good advice for my build too.
What are you using for insulation? I was planning on fiberglass insulation and then using OSB or ply board.
Hadn't thought to use plastic sheeting between insulation and board.
Any suggestions for OSB over ply for the wall choice?
Thanks :-)
Hiya buddy. Just used 200mm attic top up insulation from Wickes. More than adequate and perfectly appropriate for a job like this. Plus, very inexpensive if purchased in a promotion - in fact probably the cheapest option available if bought right. You'll also find that it won;t irritate the skin or cause rashes like your old fibre glass type insulation Plywood is arguably stronger but completely unnecessary. Go for OSB - far stronger and very, very strong. Hope this helps my friend. Stay safe and well. Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Thanks a lot Des.
I gave all my spare rock wool loft insulation to my dad after renovating my house, and he is giving me the fiberglass. I get the feeling he is happy to be rid of it. :-). But since it's free, it would be rude not to, otherwise I totally agree, the rock wool would be perfect.
Ace. I'll get checking out the OSB tonight then. Thanks a lot for the advice and well wishes. And same to you and family, stay safe.
Really inspiring to watch and making me feel I could have a go at doing this myself. Thanks for documenting it all. If you don't mind me asking, how much were all the materials? I'm guessing somewhere between 1-2k
Hi there Michael. Appreciate you watching. Please see Q & A sessions at end of build. Thanks, Des
hi i was wondering if it would have been possible to use plaster board to line the the shed since is it definitely looked waterproof ?
Hi there. Good question. Yes, plasterboard can be used for sure. However, im rather clumsy and always banging into stuff so I thought Id use somthing more durable. ATB, Des
Love those hand-squeeze acro props Des. Did you make them or are they an actual product?
Hiya buddy. Certainly didn't make them my friend.You appear to have more faith in my abilities than I have in myself lol. I bought mine several years ago in a sale from Machine Mart and they're excellent. These appear to be almost identical:
www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cht711-extension-support-arms-pair/
So from the plain shed wall will i need a vapour barrier then insulation then another barrier?
Hi there, just follow the videos. Thanks, Des
Did you cover it after with anything just to make it look better? Thinking of doing this to mine.
Hiya Stu. Haven't got around to painting it yet buddy. One of my many jobs for the summer, ATB, Des
would i need to line my walls with that plastic membrain if i am using celotex PIR insulation with aluminium taped on the joists to seal it? a bit of an overkill i would think.
Hi there, although I've never used the celotex product you're referring to I've had a quick look at the description. I would personally take a chance and not bother with the plastic membrane. Providing the joins are sealed properly with tape and the foil is is not damaged I would think it would effectively keep moisture out which is the whole point of the plastic membrane I put in. However, it might be worthwhile seeking a professional opini0on on that one or checking on forums, etc. ATB, Des
Hi, thanks, i've been looking at a lot of shed building in uk, to see how other people insulated there builds, so there is a lot of options out there, i do have a few rolls of tyvex house wrap, not sure if it can be used on the inside of the build though, and do you know if it can be used on the roof of my build? then cover it with super shed felt.
-Regards pete-
Would putting the damp proof membrane on the inside side of the shed not trap moisture in the insulation boards themselves?
What screws did you use please? Great job!
Thanks very much. I used decking screws. Plse see links below. Obviously choose the length of screw which meets the majority of your needs. Always go longer if you're unsure.
www.screwfix.com/p/timbadeck-double-countersunk-carbon-steel-decking-screws-4-5-x-75mm-500-pack/99621
www.screwfix.com/p/timbadeck-double-countersunk-carbon-steel-decking-screws-4-5-x-65mm-500-pack/73014
www.screwfix.com/p/timbadeck-double-countersunk-carbon-steel-decking-screws-4-5-x-65mm-500-pack/34251
No power sockets ?
Hi I want to do roof felt and insulation same as yours but I have to put electricity inside, I have got questions if you don’t mind. Did you get any water from the rain or any dump this winter I just want to make my shed waterproof. Any suggestions please. I appreciate your help 👍
Not a single drop my friend. Absolutely bone dry. Your electrics will be fine providing you use a good quality felt like I have done (do not under any circumstances simply use the cheapest stuff you can find - you'll regret it - it tears like paper and won't last 2 minutes) and also make decent overlaps and seal using a decent quality felt adhesive. Also, try and lay your wires on the edge of the insulation (i.e. along the timbers) rather than say sandwiched between the insulation to minimise small chance of overheating. Go for it. You'll be fine mate, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 I will follow ur advice and maybe I try to go for epdm rubber , thanks for the reply, have a good day 👍
just wondering what you would use for lining a concrete shed with a wooden door on it , that wont be heated
Hi there. If you're not heating it you have to decide firstly whether it's actually worth lining and whether you want to insulate it. If so, I'd personally batten out walls, infill with sheets of polystyrene , line with OSB or plasterboard. Although normal plasterboard is cheaper you must remember that it's nowhere near as durable as OSB and if your shed gets damp then it will deteriorate. Personally, I'd use either 12 or 18mm OSB . Hope this helps, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 thanks des, yeah it’s only for a gym in a cement shed. Trying to line it cheap and with what will last in Irish cold damp weather
If the vapour barrier stops the vapour from reaching the insulation and causing damp and rot then we’re does the vapour go when it hits the barrier. Would it not rot the OSB plywood in the same way.
Hi there and thanks for watching. Firstly, there's water vapour all around in the air we breathe and in every nook and cranny. It should eventually evaporate in small enough quantities. Secondly, if there's adequate ventilation it shouldn't be a problem so don't worry about it. Thirdly, OSB is naturally resistant to rot anyway because it is made up of loads of layers of strategically placed wooden fibres and strips which are all glued together with a cocktail of resins, etc. If you live in a climate similar to the UK this is definitely the way to go IF you are going to heat the building and spend lots of time in there. HOWEVER, if you're just going to use it as a shed then you don't need to insulate or line it. This will save you a lot of unnecessary time and expense from which you will receive no benefit. Stay safe and well, Des
21st Century Caveman thanks. I’m at the beginning stage of planning my man cave and just finding the best way. Some say to use a vapour barrier and some say not. Little bit confusing.Thank you for your information. 👍 uk based
@@21stcenturycaveman33 would you say its not possible then to use plasterboard? instead of osb
Did you use same thickness board for ceiling and ceiling?
Hi there. No. 18mm on the ceiling and 11mm I think on the walls. ATB, Des
Hi, can I ask how long it took please until completion, I am currently at vid 18 and am myself building a small office 7ftx7ft. I am doing probably 3-4 hrs a night and have done about 8 days so far. Can't wait to watch the rest of the vids thanks for filming this man, peace to you.
Hi there. Thanks so much for watching the series. It's really difficult to say because I just kept going back to it when i had time. Therefore, the time factor wasnt something i paid any real attention to. Sorry, Des
How much do you think it will cost by the end of the project
Vid to follow on completion my friend. Des
Very nice
Tho I’m a bit careful with my money as you seem to be too and I don’t like buying tools just for one job. Did you buy them ceiling raisers just for this job
Hiya buddy. No, not at all. I've had them for @ 12 years when I did a couple of ceiling plastering jobs. They're excellent and were well worth buying even though I only use them occasionally. However, you can get by with 2 lengths of timber - 1 long and 1 short. Screw the shorter one to the longer one to give you a 'T' shape and use this to prop up boards like this. You just need to gauge the length of the longer timber to make sure it reaches the ceiling and is long enough to prop up boards. Hope this helps, Des
21st Century Caveman ah I see good that you had them already
Think I will use some 3x2 as I am trying to keep all my costs down
Would i need to put a plastic sheet up if i use insulation boards instead of the wool
Yes, for the reasons already given in the comments section below. ATB, Des
Sorry mate i can not see any comments past Ashley Hatton
We have ordered a summerhouse that we will insulate and board ourselves , we have opted for the breathable membrane attached to exterior timber walls , then we plan to add rock wool 50mm for insulation , will we need a moisture barrier before boards even with the breathable membrane attached to the structure ?
Absolutely yes. Plse see comments and answers to similar questions in this series. It is imperative that you protect the internal insulation from moisture ingress. Best wishes, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 cheers des , even if using exterior grade (structural) ply board ? Could you please advise on best moisture layer material to use , many thanks appreciate your time
Hi there. Very good question indeed. I think you'll find that even most structural grade ply has NOT been treated or rot proofed and therefore still needs treating. So, unless you go for very expensive marine ply then most exterior, structural ply available in your typical hardware stores will not be moisture resistant until treated.
I personally went for this:
www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-1000-Gauge-Black-Damp-Proof-Membrane---4-x-12-5m/p/152859#
This would also work well and is a third cheaper but only half as thick:
www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Green-Polythene-Vapour-Barrier---2-5-x-20m/p/153230?scid=scplp153230&sc_intid=153230&ds_rl=1255408&ds_rl=1255411&ds_rl=1256312&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8rT8BRCbARIsALWiOvQk_g79CXKtNsOe4_58DM_jbKV51oXj7cLV3KEH7G7sgoicNaVvTO8aArovEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds#
Have a great evening where you are, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 thanks again , so to sum up exterior ply untreated will still be suitable when a membrane is used behind it 🤷♂️
Spot on (BUT the membrane needs to be completely waterproof and NOT breathable to protect the insulation from moisture in the warm air within the summerhouse).
Whats the cost been to date if you dont mind me asking
Video to follow shortly my friend. Project is now completed but just playing catch up on editing vids. Won't belong. Des
I used all screws on mine to stop the nosy neighbours peeking over for my man cave a bit expensive
Hi, the insulation that you used for shed is it sound proof,or normal one
Hi Elvis. Normal loft insulation buddy.
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Sorry - can't do anything about that I'm afraid. Thanks for your patience. Des