That chip is an MOS device, all OP-Amp and MOS devices are numbered per pin that correspond with a given input or output to various devices on that chip (one of those chips could have 4 transistors or op-amps depending on what kind of chip it is) Since that is a PCB board, you cannot wire the pins to the correct outputs/inputs yourself because the path is already pre-determined. The notch upfront is telling you that it is the front of the device so you can match it up correctly on the PCB board. It would be wise to also take your time while soldering so you do not overheat and fry the device as solder guns produce a ton of heat. Not saying anything you are doing is wrong but knowledge is power! If you're curious to see what the chip actually does, you could easily google the spec sheet and look at exactly what that chip does.
Thanks. Yea it is a process that can be easily detrimental to your ecu. I had a bad connection on one of the pins on this one, but i fixed it, so a troubleshooting video will be uploaded shortly, hopefully this week
tonytober hondata includes a new capacitor in the installation kit. These ecu’s are over 20 years old and more often than not the capacitors are leaking and need to be replaced
th3f3ttiallday there is no such thing as piece of mind when you get to the point that you need to be tuned. Any of the options allow you to make changes to a calibration yourself. Crome, neptune, ectune, s300, aem infinity, motech. In my opinion i like hondata because i am familiar with it. Does that make it better than the others, no, its just my opinion. Most people go with hondata. As far as reliability there all the same, it really is more about the tune
Yea, unfortunately honda filled the holes with solder instead of leaving them empty, de soldering all that is the only kind of hard part, be careful not to burn the board.
Say I already have a hondata s200 board plugged to my ecu and would like to upgrade to the s300 board. Can I just remove it and install the s300 board? Thanks!
Bernard Garcia honestly I don’t know. I would imagine so but I really dont know. Go to hondata/forum.com its free and you can talk to people from hondata with any questions. Im sure your question has already been covered in the forums, just do a quick search
So I'm super confused about why your doing all this. I'll start off with 2 questions, what is the reason your chipping this ecu (what does the chip do)? And then why does honda not include the chip in their ecu, isn't the s300 the top notch computer that honda makes?
the s300 is made by hondata, not honda. No honda ecu comes with the s300, although you can buy an ecu from certain performance stores with an s300 already installed . The s300 is the chip/circuit board you see me install to the stock honda ecu. Installing the s300 will allow me to access the ecu from my laptop and make changes to basically every engine parameter, at the same time monitoring the engines behavior in real time(data logging). For example, Adding a source of forced induction to an engine will require added fuel and ignition timing changes at the very least, the s300 will allow me to do these things
Hey thanks so much for the information. So the soldering your doing is just allowing you to control everything through the hondata program on the computer. So hondata recommends you send them your ecu and they put the s300 on it which is what your doing. Out of curiousity do you know how much it would cost for you to send them your ecu and for them to do it
An antistatic wriststrap. Static electricity can kill some of the microchips hes handling. Its basically a wire connecting his body to the metal case of the computer to discharge any static safely through the ground.
Not as hard as you might think. 1)keep your tip tinned, re tin it everytime 2)use soldering flux, drip some in the hole and the solder will follow it. Practice a little bit on something you dont care about youll find that its pretty easy. You can also find soldering videos on RUclips
That depends on what is already in there. You will have to de solder the existing 28 pin socket for the chip, remove it, and re solder in the two 14 pin strips for the hondata to plug into. Just be careful with the heat, the more times the board has been soldered on the easier it is to lift a track or just damage it from too much heat
Max Herman oh so i cant just plug the hondata 14 strips on to the 28 pin socket? can i like just stick in the two 14pin strips into each side of the 28pin then install the hondata? will that work? or will it not have connection
+coolaznboi99 you can and it should work, but than you wont be able to fit the cover back on the ecu, it will sit too high. but ive never tried it so you should give it a shot just incase. Let me know if it fits
+coolaznboi99 yea, better to play it safe. If i was you I would just do it the right way the first time, every time i try to take a short cut i end up regretting it in the end. Especially with an ecu. I found this site extremely helpful when i had to troubleshoot mine. qcwo.com/technicaldomain/troubleshooting-a-honda-p28-installation/
All this is boogie woodie chrome works.qell and you ready jus need a wide band go to pgmfi.com or something like that and omg chrome tune by great your set ....hondata is jus plugging you, yeah
That chip is an MOS device, all OP-Amp and MOS devices are numbered per pin that correspond with a given input or output to various devices on that chip (one of those chips could have 4 transistors or op-amps depending on what kind of chip it is) Since that is a PCB board, you cannot wire the pins to the correct outputs/inputs yourself because the path is already pre-determined. The notch upfront is telling you that it is the front of the device so you can match it up correctly on the PCB board. It would be wise to also take your time while soldering so you do not overheat and fry the device as solder guns produce a ton of heat. Not saying anything you are doing is wrong but knowledge is power! If you're curious to see what the chip actually does, you could easily google the spec sheet and look at exactly what that chip does.
awesome video man. lol ill let the professionals install my hondata s300
Thanks. Yea it is a process that can be easily detrimental to your ecu. I had a bad connection on one of the pins on this one, but i fixed it, so a troubleshooting video will be uploaded shortly, hopefully this week
5:40 what's up about that capacitor? Install a new one? Remove it...?
tonytober hondata includes a new capacitor in the installation kit. These ecu’s are over 20 years old and more often than not the capacitors are leaking and need to be replaced
So basically you need hondata in your ecu and then it can be tuned after?
th3f3ttiallday hondata is only one of many options, but yes.
But as far as peace of mind and the ability to make corrections yourself it might be the best way?
th3f3ttiallday there is no such thing as piece of mind when you get to the point that you need to be tuned. Any of the options allow you to make changes to a calibration yourself. Crome, neptune, ectune, s300, aem infinity, motech. In my opinion i like hondata because i am familiar with it. Does that make it better than the others, no, its just my opinion. Most people go with hondata. As far as reliability there all the same, it really is more about the tune
I'm lost. Do I just need a p28 and the hondata kit? Or is there another chip I have to install?
Just the ecu and the hondata kit, no chip. The hondata does everything a chip does and so much more
Easier than i thought its cake.
Yea, unfortunately honda filled the holes with solder instead of leaving them empty, de soldering all that is the only kind of hard part, be careful not to burn the board.
Max Herman yeah ive done like 6 ecus already i know how chipp ecu s
Say I already have a hondata s200 board plugged to my ecu and would like to upgrade to the s300 board. Can I just remove it and install the s300 board? Thanks!
Bernard Garcia honestly I don’t know. I would imagine so but I really dont know. Go to hondata/forum.com its free and you can talk to people from hondata with any questions. Im sure your question has already been covered in the forums, just do a quick search
Max, what kind of camera are you using to film remotely through your phone? Thanks in advance.
Wal Ter its just a go pro hero. The cheapest basic one
@@maxherman4174 Thanks! I never had a GoPro, so no idea you could link it to your phone. I appreciate the info.
So I'm super confused about why your doing all this. I'll start off with 2 questions, what is the reason your chipping this ecu (what does the chip do)? And then why does honda not include the chip in their ecu, isn't the s300 the top notch computer that honda makes?
And if you take the time to answer these questions thank you a lot
the s300 is made by hondata, not honda. No honda ecu comes with the s300, although you can buy an ecu from certain performance stores with an s300 already installed . The s300 is the chip/circuit board you see me install to the stock honda ecu. Installing the s300 will allow me to access the ecu from my laptop and make changes to basically every engine parameter, at the same time monitoring the engines behavior in real time(data logging). For example, Adding a source of forced induction to an engine will require added fuel and ignition timing changes at the very least, the s300 will allow me to do these things
Hey thanks so much for the information. So the soldering your doing is just allowing you to control everything through the hondata program on the computer. So hondata recommends you send them your ecu and they put the s300 on it which is what your doing. Out of curiousity do you know how much it would cost for you to send them your ecu and for them to do it
+Austin Sherwood the s300 it self is $500 or so. And I think most places charge $100-$200 for the installation
Austin Sherwood google
so if you have a resistor at R54 , your gonna have to uninstall it (cut it out)?
No that one is needed, probably he meant to say if you don't have it you need to de solder and install r54.
its a hassle even if your good at socketing u can't on the fly tune your shit you gotta plug and unplug that shit and thats a big drag dude..
Apparently he gets his computers from CVS
I wish it were that simple. These ecu’s will be rare items in the near future
What's that band on your wrist?
Its connected to the anti static mat. Not really necessary, just a precaution against possibly zapping something and bricking the ECU
An antistatic wriststrap. Static electricity can kill some of the microchips hes handling. Its basically a wire connecting his body to the metal case of the computer to discharge any static safely through the ground.
You have any p75
No sorry
Still got that p75?
I dont
Do you have a p28 ECU by chance lol
Is this a p28
This dude didn’t do any thing that has to do with his headline
12:25 are you poping popcorn or drying laundry
Kibble Racing Team Integra your very observant. The dryer is right behind me
Kibble Racing Team Integra laundry
@@HC-ov2hh laundry yep that's what I said
Thats 2 midgets in the backseat wrastling
I need that p75 bro
How do you solder such small dots without them connecting to one another?
Not as hard as you might think. 1)keep your tip tinned, re tin it everytime 2)use soldering flux, drip some in the hole and the solder will follow it. Practice a little bit on something you dont care about youll find that its pretty easy. You can also find soldering videos on RUclips
Max Herman Oh cool. Thank you for your very thorough response
The way u held that drill wtf ,slice your own wrist or arm ,next time stand on it etc 😎
Bet you can tie your shoe one handed
H C that would be impressive. I would never have enough patience to try it
so will it be easy to install if i already have a chipped ecu?
That depends on what is already in there. You will have to de solder the existing 28 pin socket for the chip, remove it, and re solder in the two 14 pin strips for the hondata to plug into. Just be careful with the heat, the more times the board has been soldered on the easier it is to lift a track or just damage it from too much heat
Max Herman oh so i cant just plug the hondata 14 strips on to the 28 pin socket? can i like just stick in the two 14pin strips into each side of the 28pin then install the hondata? will that work? or will it not have connection
+coolaznboi99 you can and it should work, but than you wont be able to fit the cover back on the ecu, it will sit too high. but ive never tried it so you should give it a shot just incase. Let me know if it fits
Max Herman hmm interesting. i would love to give it a shot but kinda worried about damaging the ecu. but it should work like a plug and play.
+coolaznboi99 yea, better to play it safe. If i was you I would just do it the right way the first time, every time i try to take a short cut i end up regretting it in the end. Especially with an ecu. I found this site extremely helpful when i had to troubleshoot mine. qcwo.com/technicaldomain/troubleshooting-a-honda-p28-installation/
Can't just leave parts out man
What did i leave out?
All this is boogie woodie chrome works.qell and you ready jus need a wide band go to pgmfi.com or something like that and omg chrome tune by great your set ....hondata is jus plugging you, yeah
p75 still for sale?
I ended up using it for another project. Sorry
I need a s300
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