When the ref blew the whistle at the end of the game it was like releasing a pressure valve with the influx of people from the sidelines. If the rumour is true that the GAA decided to re build hill 16 after this game, how the hell did it take until the end of the 1987 championship to commence work on it, and even more mind boggling, how was a partly constructed new hill 16 allowed to hold spectators for the 1988 all Ireland finals, as the terrace wasn't fully completed until late spring/early summer in 1989. In the wake of the hillsbourough disaster, they then went & constructed a 10 ft fence between the new hill and the pitch, and as a spectator during the mid 90s as a young teenager, the newly constructed hill could still be a scary place in a big crowd , especially down near the front at the
...fence behind the goal. Not that the canal end was much better, people nearly lost their lives there during the 1988 all Ireland hurling final. The idea of being able to turn up on all Ireland final day without a ticket & be wrecklessly admitted onto these terraces showed how complacent the GAA were to crowd control & safety at the time
That's true. I've heard the two of them interviewed together on a sports radio show and there was zero animosity between them. Time is a healer and they are both philosohphical about it now.
I think the Dublin mindset at the time was to win at all cost regardless of the consequences because archival Kerry were out of the way. It would be inconceivable the the culchies from the west could defeat the mighty Dubs in Croke park
Dublin - J. O’Leary, M. Holden, G. Hargan, R. Hazley, P. Canavan, T. Drumm (capt.), P. J. Buckley, J. Ronayne, B. Mullins, B. Rock, T. Conroy, C. Duff, J. Caffrey, A. O’Toole, J. McNally. Subs: J. Kearns for T. Conroy; K. Maher for J. Caffrey. Galway - P. Coyne, J. Hughes, S. Kinneavy, M. Coleman, P. O’Neill, P. Lee, S. McHugh (capt), B. Talty, R. Lee, B. Brennan, V. Daly, B. O’Donnell, T. Tierney, G. McManus, S. Joyce. Subs: M. Brennan for B. Talty; W. Joyce for P. Lee; J. Tobin for J. Hughes
I just can't understand why the reff sent Thomas Tierney from Galway off, he didn't do anything wrong, it's just the Dublin man he should have sent off
A great game, and a manly bit of fisticuffs as well. Its hypocriatical that the media nowadays refer back to this game with fond nostalgia about the '12 apostles', 'they were men back then', and 'that's the way it was'... And when a brawl happens nowadays it is the end of the sport as we know it; with cries of 'what about the women and children!' This was a great game and the boxing added to it.
Kev Mc The 12 apostles or the dirty dozen. Each person has to make his/her own mind up on that I suppose. I certainly don't agree that "the boxing added to it" The game could have done without that. Many a great match across the sporting spectrum has been enthralling because of the closeness of the scoreline and the sporting manner in which it was played. That didn't apply here. This was one of the most bad tempered finals ever. That's borne out by the fact that only 26 players finished it. The only legitimate place for fisticuffs is the boxing ring.
Dirty scummy dublin bastards never knew how to play football only sneaky punching and pulling players down and they are still at it this is how they win all irelands not by playing stylish football !!!!!
The most violent final in history of Irish sports. The Dublin team of late 70s early 80s was the dirtiest team in history of gaa and Irish sport. Intimidated teams with violence.
After the glory days of the 1950scGalway have been the under achievers in the Gaa It took them 15 years to reach their next final They hadn't been in a final since 2001 until last year Come on Galway you can do better than that .
@@jacobm4549 Dear Jacob, Ciaran, you father, or Des as he was affectionately known played for Ballyboden St Endas through every age group, as did I. He was a few years older that I but in 1983 we trained together for Dublin - he with the senior squad and I with the minor squad. On this was founded a respect as sportsmen on top of a friendship....I had great affection for your father as did all. I last saw your father in London where were shared a pint in Baker Street - the pub was right in the Baker Street Underground and I had bumped into your father as he took the Metropolitan Line to Northolt (where he was staying at the time). Being younger that Des and somewhat less mature he reassured me simply because as another emigrant, we were in the same boat, and I felt that if Des could manage the hurt and upset, then so could I. I never saw your father again!! Some months before he died, there was a storage engineering conference in Boston and we'd made plans to meet but at the last minute, you father had to pull out....in talking to him on the phone it was as if no time had elapsed. He was a gentleman, a peerless sportsman and I count him as a friend...I can still clearly see your uncle Mick and his brother Des arriving an a DT 125 trials bike to Ballyboden St Endas, you father with his trademark combat jacket!!! We all wondered at the sight of a relatively small bike holding two huge men. The news of your fathers death was a shock to me coming soon enough after my own mother died...at the time I was removing an analogue TV aerial from a house when David Coffey (a mutual friend) called me to tell me the news. THere and then I used the aerial as a flagpole and a Dublin flag flies there to this day - in memory of your father in Bonneville La Louvet, France. Will you give your uncle Mick my best regards (tell him Muller was asking for him). God Bless you Maher in BOston. Seamus
@@james09995 Sorry for the late response, Muller. These words truly mean a lot to me and my family ( I showed them the messages ). It’s amazing to hear about him and the stories from the past. He was truly one of a kind!! He was the best father a kid could ask for. Thank you again for the kind words, it means so much. Hope all is well
@@jacobm4549 I have only just seen this response. There’s not many a day passes but I don’t think of your father. I wrote a poem in memory of your fathe, Jim Stynes & Nigel Monaghan….I’ll post it here when I dig it out. My regards to you and the Mahers
@@jacobm4549 Dedicated some years back to three footballers from Ballyboden St Endas. Where Blue & White is worn.. I dream of Dublin fields where the Blue and White is worn, Of speed, strength and vitality that brought us victory home, Now withered on wings of destiny no longer first 15, But indomitable men of circumstance though some no longer seen. Capricious fate my friends dispersed to death and mammons shores, Corinthian spirit abandoned to more brutal rules and mores, And my mind doth wonder yet to fields where men were kings Now grown to seeking victories in less forgiving things. So forget not you sporting god’s rapacious in your greed, For young lives spent in hot pursuit of danger, skill and speed, But God takes what He gave to us, not our inalienable right, To leave but dreams that live for us on fields of Blue and White. ‘Tis wing’d destiny carries us to life’s great victory, Called off the bench to meet with Him our Talents to repay, And He will give to us youth again as measure of His might, That we shall live and play again on fields of Blue and White. Seamus Mulrooney In Memory of “Des”, Jimmy and “Nudge”
Nothing was ever mentioned in the press about what happened outside hill16 before this game. It could have been Hillsborough.Unconscious old men, young women and kids were passed over the heads of a major crush trying to get into this game. It was very dangerous and as an 18 year old man I was in tears when I eventually got through the turnstyles. I did not enjoy this all ireland final at all.
How ironic. During Dublin's golden era in the 70's there were at least 3 occasions when Brian Mullins should have been sent off: notably for his "clothes line" tackle in the 1977 semi final. On this occasion, when he finally was, he was more being sinned against than sinning. Strange, that Mr Talty didn't show for the second half. We'll never know the truth about what happened in the tunnel.
If Galway had a better keeper they might have won. It was a useless kick out but good opportunitism by Barney Rock to be fair that led to the crucial score. Also in those days Dublin supporters would fill up about 85% of the attendance, hardly any maroon to be seen at all. Dublin supporters would also be allowed fill half the Canal End but no rival supporters were allowed on the Hill. What a jib!!!
rival supporters were allowed on the hill...they chose not to go...the Canal end was actually bigger than the hill so plenty of room to share.When the Dubs played Meath in the late eighties and 90's Meath had most of the Canal end. When they built the new croker they should have left the bottom deck of the canal end as terracing
its amazing how years later, the hypocrisy that a lot of teams punch others off the ball and blame Dublin for it. you lot wanted to go to that level no one forced you to, kerry fans watch out
Apparently old age pensioners sitting in the old nally stand beside hill 16 were pelted with glass bottles & other missiles from dubs fans standing on the hill, and the overspill of fans from the hill through the barrier on the old cusack side displaced hundreds of genuine cusack ticket holders. No matter what part of the stadium you look at it appeared to be dangerously overcrowded that day. Serious stewarding & safety shortfalls that thankfully have since been resolved. It's only a miricale that someone didn't lose their life that day
BULLSHIT! Usual "culchie" nonsense to paint Dubs as animals. I am a proud Dub and my father is a Galway man...I am a proud Tribesman since that is my heritage. But I will tell you one thing, the ability of our country cousins to be even handed when it came to Dublin is non-existent. Get the chip off your shoulders. You had a one man advantage for a huge portion of the game and still you couldn't win it.
Dublin supporters are knackers. I can only imagine what they were like back then😂😂Galway tried to mix it but they couldn't they were soft. They were playing a team of thugs. Galway started it but Dublin finished it on the field and on the scoreboard. Mullins and Duff would be locked up and charged with assault if they did that today. Duff kicked a man in the face🙄Overall the experience and streetwise Dubs was the difference. Galway were a new team that were very naive. No one is denying that the better team won it's just the antics on the field certainly brought the game into the gutter
"Dublin supporters are knackers" & "a team of thugs"....clearly you know-nothing of either. If, as you state, "the antics on the field brought the game into the gutter" remember that there were two teams on the field and Galway had a man sent off too....
The day the dublin gurries brought the gaa to a new low. Beteween the gurries/jackeens (Jackeen waver of the little Union Jack) on the pitch and those in Hill 16, this was the moment that says it all. Kicking a prone footballer in the head.. thats real class !
Actually he never hit him but he did flick his boot towards Pat O'Neill, who made the most of it. Galway just were not good enough on the day. if it was 15 v 15 the score would have been greater in favour of the Dubs
The incident between Tomas tierney and Ray Hazely was only hand bag stuff but the rest deserved the red card and the Dublin goal was illegal because the Dublin manager was on the pitch at the time
@@rorybrennan360 Maybe Duffs kick on Pat o Neill could have been a bit exaggerated but Mullins punch on Talty was a sending off offence. The Dublin goal was as a.real fluke.
@rorybrennan360 Did the same v Cork, accuracy wise anyway even though Cork hadn't taken to the field 2nd half. No fluke just a world class finish. Credit where credit is due. Go suck on a lemon.
I was there. Fourteen years old in the hill almost crushed to death. Great day though never will forget
When the ref blew the whistle at the end of the game it was like releasing a pressure valve with the influx of people from the sidelines. If the rumour is true that the GAA decided to re build hill 16 after this game, how the hell did it take until the end of the 1987 championship to commence work on it, and even more mind boggling, how was a partly constructed new hill 16 allowed to hold spectators for the 1988 all Ireland finals, as the terrace wasn't fully completed until late spring/early summer in 1989. In the wake of the hillsbourough disaster, they then went & constructed a 10 ft fence between the new hill and the pitch, and as a spectator during the mid 90s as a young teenager, the newly constructed hill could still be a scary place in a big crowd , especially down near the front at the
...fence behind the goal. Not that the canal end was much better, people nearly lost their lives there during the 1988 all Ireland hurling final. The idea of being able to turn up on all Ireland final day without a ticket & be wrecklessly admitted onto these terraces showed how complacent the GAA were to crowd control & safety at the time
That's true. I've heard the two of them interviewed together on a sports radio show and there was zero animosity between them. Time is a healer and they are both philosohphical about it now.
God Bless The Twelve Apostles I was only 13 that day and on duty.....with the St. John's Ambulance. Ahhh the memories. BAILE ÁTH CLIATH ABÚ.
The hill was a sea of blue. Packed! Barney rock saved us. And Sam came home to Molly Malone!
Ironically, Talty went on to become a big fish in Dublin GAA, managing minor teams etc. He's probably great mates with Mullins now.
people moan about this game as if Dublin didnt deserve to win, Dublin paid the full price on the pitch and Galway were not good enough on the day
I think the Dublin mindset at the time was to win at all cost regardless of the consequences because archival Kerry were out of the way. It would be inconceivable the the culchies from the west could defeat the mighty Dubs in Croke park
Dublin - J. O’Leary, M. Holden, G. Hargan, R. Hazley, P. Canavan, T. Drumm (capt.), P. J. Buckley, J. Ronayne, B. Mullins, B. Rock, T. Conroy, C. Duff, J. Caffrey, A. O’Toole, J. McNally. Subs: J. Kearns for T. Conroy; K. Maher for J. Caffrey.
Galway - P. Coyne, J. Hughes, S. Kinneavy, M. Coleman, P. O’Neill, P. Lee, S. McHugh (capt), B. Talty, R. Lee, B. Brennan, V. Daly, B. O’Donnell, T. Tierney, G. McManus, S. Joyce. Subs: M. Brennan for B. Talty; W. Joyce for P. Lee; J. Tobin for J. Hughes
Small Correction....C Maher (Ciaran Maher also affectionately know as Des...RIP my good friend)
I just can't understand why the reff sent Thomas Tierney from Galway off, he didn't do anything wrong, it's just the Dublin man he should have sent off
It was Peter Lee who was the culprit as it turned out later.
I'm a Galway man and very proud to be
Well done
WHY?
Great county, salthill full of summer dubs, a likeable people in galway.
A great game, and a manly bit of fisticuffs as well. Its hypocriatical that the media nowadays refer back to this game with fond nostalgia about the '12 apostles', 'they were men back then', and 'that's the way it was'... And when a brawl happens nowadays it is the end of the sport as we know it; with cries of 'what about the women and children!' This was a great game and the boxing added to it.
Kev Mc The 12 apostles or the dirty dozen. Each person has to make his/her own mind up on that I suppose. I certainly don't agree that "the boxing added to it" The game could have done without that. Many a great match across the sporting spectrum has been enthralling because of the closeness of the scoreline and the sporting manner in which it was played. That didn't apply here. This was one of the most bad tempered finals ever. That's borne out by the fact that only 26 players finished it. The only legitimate place for fisticuffs is the boxing ring.
Dirty scummy dublin bastards never knew how to play football only sneaky punching and pulling players down and they are still at it this is how they win all irelands not by playing stylish football !!!!!
Johnny Depp 😂😂😂
@@johnnydepp7012 have you got special needs?
The most violent final in history of Irish sports. The Dublin team of late 70s early 80s was the dirtiest team in history of gaa and Irish sport. Intimidated teams with violence.
Great day paid into canal end no ticket was 14 yrs old.
After the glory days of the 1950scGalway have been the under achievers in the Gaa It took them 15 years to reach their next final They hadn't been in a final since 2001 until last year Come on Galway you can do better than that .
Highlights at 3:07 , 4:06 , 6:19
The 12 apostles
The 12 Angry Men!
@Mad Man 1 you forgot the K, ever hear of school bitter little man?
@12:57 Number 26 - Ciaran Maher, aka Des Maher to his friends. God Rest you Dessie, gone but not forgotten. Muller
This is Ciaran’s son, Jacob. Thank you for the kind words. We miss him dearly. Still have his #26 jersey from this day. Up the Dubs
@@jacobm4549 Dear Jacob, Ciaran, you father, or Des as he was affectionately known played for Ballyboden St Endas through every age group, as did I. He was a few years older that I but in 1983 we trained together for Dublin - he with the senior squad and I with the minor squad. On this was founded a respect as sportsmen on top of a friendship....I had great affection for your father as did all. I last saw your father in London where were shared a pint in Baker Street - the pub was right in the Baker Street Underground and I had bumped into your father as he took the Metropolitan Line to Northolt (where he was staying at the time). Being younger that Des and somewhat less mature he reassured me simply because as another emigrant, we were in the same boat, and I felt that if Des could manage the hurt and upset, then so could I. I never saw your father again!! Some months before he died, there was a storage engineering conference in Boston and we'd made plans to meet but at the last minute, you father had to pull out....in talking to him on the phone it was as if no time had elapsed. He was a gentleman, a peerless sportsman and I count him as a friend...I can still clearly see your uncle Mick and his brother Des arriving an a DT 125 trials bike to Ballyboden St Endas, you father with his trademark combat jacket!!! We all wondered at the sight of a relatively small bike holding two huge men.
The news of your fathers death was a shock to me coming soon enough after my own mother died...at the time I was removing an analogue TV aerial from a house when David Coffey (a mutual friend) called me to tell me the news. THere and then I used the aerial as a flagpole and a Dublin flag flies there to this day - in memory of your father in Bonneville La Louvet, France.
Will you give your uncle Mick my best regards (tell him Muller was asking for him). God Bless you Maher in BOston. Seamus
@@james09995 Sorry for the late response, Muller. These words truly mean a lot to me and my family ( I showed them the messages ). It’s amazing to hear about him and the stories from the past. He was truly one of a kind!! He was the best father a kid could ask for. Thank you again for the kind words, it means so much. Hope all is well
@@jacobm4549 I have only just seen this response. There’s not many a day passes but I don’t think of your father. I wrote a poem in memory of your fathe, Jim Stynes & Nigel Monaghan….I’ll post it here when I dig it out. My regards to you and the Mahers
@@jacobm4549
Dedicated some years back to three footballers from Ballyboden St Endas.
Where Blue & White is worn..
I dream of Dublin fields where the Blue and White is worn,
Of speed, strength and vitality that brought us victory home,
Now withered on wings of destiny no longer first 15,
But indomitable men of circumstance though some no longer seen.
Capricious fate my friends dispersed to death and mammons shores,
Corinthian spirit abandoned to more brutal rules and mores,
And my mind doth wonder yet to fields where men were kings
Now grown to seeking victories in less forgiving things.
So forget not you sporting god’s rapacious in your greed,
For young lives spent in hot pursuit of danger, skill and speed,
But God takes what He gave to us, not our inalienable right,
To leave but dreams that live for us on fields of Blue and White.
‘Tis wing’d destiny carries us to life’s great victory,
Called off the bench to meet with Him our Talents to repay,
And He will give to us youth again as measure of His might,
That we shall live and play again on fields of Blue and White.
Seamus Mulrooney
In Memory of “Des”, Jimmy and “Nudge”
All Gardai in the 70's were from the sticks so therefore Anti-Dublin. Hope this answers your question ;-)
Nothing was ever mentioned in the press about what happened outside hill16 before this game. It could have been Hillsborough.Unconscious old men, young women and kids were passed over the heads of a major crush trying to get into this game. It was very dangerous and as an 18 year old man I was in tears when I eventually got through the turnstyles. I did not enjoy this all ireland final at all.
Due to safety concerns they decided to re-build the hill following this final
Feet off the ground and being moved 10 feet either way, we shit ourselves.
How ironic. During Dublin's golden era in the 70's there were at least 3 occasions when Brian Mullins should have been sent off: notably for his "clothes line" tackle in the 1977 semi final. On this occasion, when he finally was, he was more being sinned against than sinning. Strange, that Mr Talty didn't show for the second half. We'll never know the truth about what happened in the tunnel.
its well known that Mullins knocked him out in the tunnel. Without the hardest footballer ever to play the game.
If Galway had a better keeper they might have won. It was a useless kick out but good opportunitism by Barney Rock to be fair that led to the crucial score. Also in those days Dublin supporters would fill up about 85% of the attendance, hardly any maroon to be seen at all. Dublin supporters would also be allowed fill half the Canal End but no rival supporters were allowed on the Hill. What a jib!!!
rival supporters were allowed on the hill...they chose not to go...the Canal end was actually bigger than the hill so plenty of room to share.When the Dubs played Meath in the late eighties and 90's Meath had most of the Canal end. When they built the new croker they should have left the bottom deck of the canal end as terracing
if me aunt had baws shed b ne uncle
Epic kick at 6.51 hahahaha
Hey, no probs!
its amazing how years later, the hypocrisy that a lot of teams punch others off the ball and blame Dublin for it. you lot wanted to go to that level no one forced you to, kerry fans watch out
Must be some anti-dub gara activity behind both sides of the goal at 11:44 too?
A dreadfully poor final. The thuggery allied to the lack of skills.
Especially compared to the previous year's final
Nonsense.
The 12 apostles, it lashed rain, galway couldnt take advantage.
Apparently old age pensioners sitting in the old nally stand beside hill 16 were pelted with glass bottles & other missiles from dubs fans standing on the hill, and the overspill of fans from the hill through the barrier on the old cusack side displaced hundreds of genuine cusack ticket holders. No matter what part of the stadium you look at it appeared to be dangerously overcrowded that day. Serious stewarding & safety shortfalls that thankfully have since been resolved. It's only a miricale that someone didn't lose their life that day
BULLSHIT! Usual "culchie" nonsense to paint Dubs as animals. I am a proud Dub and my father is a Galway man...I am a proud Tribesman since that is my heritage. But I will tell you one thing, the ability of our country cousins to be even handed when it came to Dublin is non-existent. Get the chip off your shoulders. You had a one man advantage for a huge portion of the game and still you couldn't win it.
Dublin supporters are knackers. I can only imagine what they were like back then😂😂Galway tried to mix it but they couldn't they were soft. They were playing a team of thugs. Galway started it but Dublin finished it on the field and on the scoreboard. Mullins and Duff would be locked up and charged with assault if they did that today. Duff kicked a man in the face🙄Overall the experience and streetwise Dubs was the difference. Galway were a new team that were very naive. No one is denying that the better team won it's just the antics on the field certainly brought the game into the gutter
"Dublin supporters are knackers" & "a team of thugs"....clearly you know-nothing of either. If, as you state, "the antics on the field brought the game into the gutter" remember that there were two teams on the field and Galway had a man sent off too....
jealous low life
@Mad Man 1 the only knacker commenting on here is you lad, what county are you from?
This game was fucked back then
The day the dublin gurries brought the gaa to a new low. Beteween the gurries/jackeens (Jackeen waver of the little Union Jack) on the pitch and those in Hill 16, this was the moment that says it all. Kicking a prone footballer in the head.. thats real class !
Actually he never hit him but he did flick his boot towards Pat O'Neill, who made the most of it. Galway just were not good enough on the day. if it was 15 v 15 the score would have been greater in favour of the Dubs
It's gurriers, ye prick and pleasre explan Union Jack on dry land?
Your girlfriend must have run away with a Dub!!!!
The bitterness still there after all these years
Anton Bracken It’s please, you prick ! The word Jackeen as is explained above is derived from dubs waving the little Union Jack in Dublin.
up the dubs
usual anti-dub ref
The incident between Tomas tierney and Ray Hazely was only hand bag stuff but the rest deserved the red card and the Dublin goal was illegal because the Dublin manager was on the pitch at the time
Ha ha hilarious.could read bitter comments like that all day.
@@rorybrennan360 Maybe Duffs kick on Pat o Neill could have been a bit exaggerated but Mullins punch on Talty was a sending off offence. The Dublin goal was as a.real fluke.
Your tight.Barney was trying for a point.complete fluke.hilarious.
@rorybrennan360 Did the same v Cork, accuracy wise anyway even though Cork hadn't taken to the field 2nd half.
No fluke just a world class finish.
Credit where credit is due. Go suck on a lemon.