Helaena was disassociating when she said “They killed the boy”. She experienced both the freeze and the flight reactions when faced with that extremely traumatic situation, and then she disassociated. It’s also heavily implied that Helaena is neurodivergent as well as clairvoyant, I think the actress did an amazing job portraying all of this in the midst of trauma responses.
Thank you thank you THANK YOU for pointing this out. I'm a book reader, I've read the books so many times I have them memorized (I'm autistic and ASoIaF is my special interest) and I'm in love with both the neurodivergent representation and the fact that they made Helaena a dreamer, and when I went through a really traumatic experience involving the death of somebody close to me, my response was VERY similar to what Phia did here. The response book readers had to this episode was so upsetting to me because even though it's different it made perfect sense to me, and seeing people confused or upset at Helaena for not screaming and for giving up her son was such a disservice to Phia's skill as an actress. I was floored by how well she conveyed dissociative shock, and if you pay attention you can hear her muttering "they only want the boy" in her first scene. That moment she starts to say no and interrupts herself, pointing him out, that to me is the very moment she understood what her dreams meant and that she had no choice but to give Jaehaerys up. Brilliant imo, this adaptation is so good.
Hi Pilar! Welcome back to RUclips, we've missed you! I had a little question... I know you pretty much restarted your channel from scratch 3 years ago. Do you still have your old Game of Thrones reaction videos somewhere? Any chance you could reupload them on a Google Drive somewhere, or something? They were very good.
Rheanrya's dragon cried with her on the beach not only because of their bond but because Luke's dragon was her dragons baby so it's two mothers mourning their babies
Nothing happened? What about Aegon's son and heir being decapitated? That will inevitably have terrible consequences. But you're right, there should have been kingsguard around. Also, Alicent will probably blame Rhaenyra for the murder of her grandson.
I am team black all the way. But I can't help but feel sad for Helaena because she is the only green which I like no mother should loose their baby like that 😭. I totally expected for Criston Cole to go for Alicent because he likes to screw royal blood. Aegon is not a nice person it was all an act, he even found it funny when they said "Aegon the magnanimous" because deep down he knows he is not big hearted. Alicent is a not a nice person trust me it bad people can do good deeds as well, she was even having sex with the guy that was supposed to keep an eye on the kids and Helaena..
The rat catcher and his dog were seen twice earlier in the episode, once as Alicent and Cole went into the Council meeting then he was seen walking across the back hall as Aegon was hearing about the blockade. They are a trusted sight no one questions so that's why they take the dog along. That's how they can walk past everyone in the throne room or elsewhere without anyone worrying. This changes when they have to go upstairs. The man says "Different group of rat catchers work the upstairs" and doesn't want to go because he could be recognised. When he is forced to go he kicks the dog so he wouldn't follow them, because that would give him away.
Great to see you uploading again ! Your season 1 reactions were honestly the best, particularly the chaos surrounding early season Rhaenyra and Daemon.. 😂
Alicent is doing the same thing she blamed Rhaenyra for, with the same guard, she's not going to want guards around while she does it. The two mousers don't attract attention, there are many working in the castle, the dog is for hunting rats.
Is good to have you back 😘. "iron from Ice". The House Forrester or Iron Wrath, loyal bannermen from the Starks nevera will be forgotten 💪. I'll give you a sugestión for something for not see. The "spin-off" from the "Game of Thrones", made by Telltale. Yeah, the have Emilia Clarke, Kit Harrington, Natalie Dorner, Lena Headey Peter Dinklage, Iwan Rheon (I don't remember if there was anymore important character) playing their characters. Don't missunderstand, the history is good, but there will be not a second season (and the cliffhanger is so huge, still hurta almost 9 years later 😓).
16:52 I thought it was bad that Jace came home straight away, I wanted to see more scenes of Jace in the north. The books have several moments of Jace in the north, but apparently the writers chose not to include them, it's a real shame. 10:43 Rhaenys' Scene with Daemon Eva best who plays the character Rhaenys I talk about her scene with Daemon. "When we did that in the reading and it seemed like a kind of trump card, like whoever has more power" (...) so, what he throws at her in that scene entirely reflects him and his own vulnerability and a desperate need to blame someone" "Understanding that thing about being an outsider. Those who have been mistreated, those who haven't gotten the position they were raised in or deserve, I feel like there's a deep understanding that Rhaenyra resonates with a lot." As Rhaenyra was absent for days, it was probably the daemon who received Alicent's letters. I imagine he burned all of Alicent's letters. (I would do the same thing) I'm sure he did this the first moment he read it "Friend, how are you? How are you?🥰 I'm sorry for your son😰🤧 You know how it is, accidents happen🤷♀️ but move forward and lift your head so the crown (a princess's, not a Queen's) doesn't fall off, right lol I miss you already." (bro when Alicent speaks The fact that I sent the letters made me angry because, bro, it's only the scriptwriters who can do this shit, I hope Daemon burned all the fake letters. 14:11 I wanted to talk about Rhaenyra in the book in relation to how Lucerys' death happened. How sad Vhagar must have been, the dragon who ended her boy's life. Riding Visenya,a woman she clearly admired and then her beloved Laena. Rhaenyra clearly admired the conqueror. She wore her hair normally tied in a long braid, like her ancestor and even named her daughter after her, who unfortunately did not survive. Besides, in the book the relationship between Laena and Rhaenyra was different.They flew together,visited each other and she was with Laena in her final moments.They promised their children: Jace to Baela and Luke to Rhaena, when the boys were four and three and the girls two. How sad it must have been to think that the dragon that once belonged to a woman she so admired and was inspired by and then to such a dear friend was the very one who killed her son. 10:39 Daemon was Anxious throughout the episode, lashing out at everyone he talked to because he was worried about Rhaenyra. He probably hadn't slept for days, not knowing if she was safe. Then she came back and he did his best to comfort her. (The funny thing is that Dameon was mad at everyone and blamed everyone, but when Rhaenyra arrived he was calm with her presence) They [Daemon and Rhaenyra] have a connection that no one else on the show shares, they are almost the same person, in different bodies. Sarah Hess. Matt Smith: “[Blood&Cheese] It's love, grief and vengeance. Daemon feels it's impossible not to exact that feeling of revenge when it's in him... [Jaehaerys' death] isn't his mistake ultimately, but he does put it in motion.” 17:13 Jace's scene with Rhaenyra was very beautiful. Jace placing the crown in front of the mourning is Rhaenyra putting the pain aside to comfort. He trying to hold back to say what he managed and clinging to her afterwards. This scene is important to show that Rhaenyra raised her children in a very loving way. On the other hand, we have a mother (Alicent) who is extremely negligent and neglectful and on the other, Nyra is simply being loving towards all of her children. Seriously, they put the scene of Alicent lighting the candle for Lucerys, seriously, scriptwriters, this woman doesn't care about Rhaenyra's children, she calls hers bastards and tried to take a child's eye out and then put this ridiculous scene of hers, She called the jace and luke from savages... said he would rather die than let Helaena marry jace... spent 10 years questioning the legitimacy of the Children and putting a target on their and Rhaenyra's foreheads... but yes he does everything I felt the parallel of the wake with Alicent's fake, They are forcing too much, Alicent clearly never liked Rhaenyra's children but is called empathetic for lighting a candle at Lucerys' death... however, Rhaenyra who never had anything against Is Helaena called fake for showing empathy towards another innocent mother? Sometimes it's difficult to understand people, but she's the victim, folks.. she started the war by accident.. she sent Larys to kill Mysaria's informants by accident.. she spent 10 years preparing Aegon to be king by accident. .she questioned the legitimacy of luke/ep8 without meaning to.. she is just the victim of the patriarchy, incredible how everything they do the producers want to make accidental. "Ah, they didn't want to usurp the throne", "Aemond didn't want to kill the boy", damn what a bummer. 18:09 They didn't have Lucerys' body for the funeral so to represent him throughout his life, Jace wore his newborn clothes, Joffrey his toy as a child, Rhaenyra her clothes as an adult.
A lot of people who read the Book Fire and Blood don't like what they did with Cheese and Blood because they changed things. I'm going to give my opinion on the whole episode, so I liked the episode but I expected more from the episode, about the blood and cheese I thought it was cool but it could be much better. I'm going to talk now about what really happened in the Book Fire and Blood. Blood and Cheese is one of the darkest moments of the civil war between the Targaryens,known as the Dance of the Dragons. After receiving information about Luke's death at the hands of Aemond, the Black Council met at Dragonstone and received a raven from Prince Daemon, who at that time was in Harrenhal. "An eye for an eye, a son for a son," wrote Prince Daemon."Lucerys will be avenged." Thus begins one of the bloodiest chapters of Dance. "Let it not be forgotten: in his youth, Daemon Targaryen was the Prince of the City, his face and his laughs were familiar to all the pickpockets, whores and gamblers of Flea Bottom. The prince still had friends in the lowest reaches of King's Landing and followers among the gold cloaks. Unbeknownst to King Aegon, the Hand, or the Dowager Queen, he also had allies at court, even on the green council... And another intermediary, a special friend whom he trusted completely, who knew the taverns and rat pits that festered in the shadows of the Red Keep, as Daemon himself had known, and moved with ease in the shadows of the city. He sought out this pale stranger then, by secret means, to enact terrible revenge." Her intermediary, as it turns out later, was (Mysaria) and she is the one who recruits Blood and Cheese, in King's Landing. Blood is described as brutish and deadly, and he had been a sergeant among the Gold Cloaks (City Guard), but was permanently dismissed for beating a prostitute to death during a drunken binge. Cheese, in turn, was the rat exterminator of the Red Keep and therefore knew all the entrances and exits of the Castle and he is the one who takes Blood to the interior of the castle,without them being seen by anyone. “Cheese knew the Red Fortress better than the shape of his own dick,” says Cogumelo. The hidden doors and secret tunnels Maegor the Cruel had constructed were as familiar to the exterminator as they were to the rats he hunted. Using a forgotten passage, Cheese took Blood to the heart of the castle, without being seen by any guards. Some say that the prey was the king himself, but Aegon was accompanied by the Kingsguard wherever he went, and not even Cheese knew of an entrance or exit from Maegor's Fortress other than the drawbridge that passed over the dry moat and its formidable iron spikes. The Tower of the Hand was less dry. The two men climbed the walls, avoiding the spearmen stationed at the tower doors. Ser Otto's quarters were of no interest to them. They went directly to his daughter's quarters, one floor below. Queen Alicent had come to live there after the death of King Viserys, when her son Aegon moved to Maegor's Keep with his queen. After they entered, Cheese tied and gagged the widowed queen while Blood strangled her chambermaid. Then they sat down to wait, as they knew that it was Queen Helaena's custom to take her children to see their grandmother every night before they went to sleep. Oblivious to the danger, the queen appeared as dusk spread across the castle, accompanied by her three children. Jaehaerys and Jaehaera were six years old and Maelor was two. When they entered the chambers, Helaena was holding his little hand and calling her mother's name. Blood blocked the door and killed the queen's guards while Cheese appeared to get Maelor. -If they scream, everyone will die - Sangue warned His Grace. Queen Helaena kept her cool, they say. -Who are you? -he asked the two. -Debt collectors -said Cheese. -An eye for an eye, a son for a son. We just want one to settle the score. We will not harm rest of you, not by a hair's breadth. What does Your Grace want? lose? When she understood what he meant, Queen Helaena pleaded for men to kill her in the place of one of her children. -A wife is not a son, said Blood. -It has to be one boy. Cheese warned the queen to choose quickly, before Blood was left I'm tired of the little girl. -Choose - he said -, otherwise we will kill everyone. On her knees, crying, Helaena chose the youngest, Maelor. Perhaps she had thought the boy was too young to understand,or perhaps it was because the oldest boy, Jaehaerys, was the firstborn and heir of King Aegon, next in line of succession to the Iron Throne. -Are you listening, little boy? -Cheese whispered to Maelor. -Your mom wants you dead. He gave Blood a smile, and the hulking swordsman killed Prince Jaehaerys, taking the boy's head off with a single blow. The queen began to scream. Strangely enough, the rat exterminator and the butcher were true to their word. They did no harm to Queen Helaena or her surviving children, but they fled with the prince's head in their hands. A scream sounded, but Queijo knew the secret passages that the guards did not, and the killers fled. Two days later, Blood was captured at the Gate of the Gods trying to leave King's Landing with Prince Jaehaerys' head in one of his saddlebags. Under torture, he confessed that he was taking the head to Harrenhal, to collect his reward from Prince Daemon. He too gave a description of the prostitute he claimed had hired them: an older woman, foreign in her accent, with a cape and hood, very pale.The other prostitutes called her Myseria. After thirteen days of torment, Blood was finally able to die. Queen Alicent ordered Larys Clubfoot to learn his name so he could bathe in the blood of his wife and children, but our sources do not say whether this happened. Ser Luthor Largent and his golden cloaks searched the Street of Silk from top to bottom and investigated and stripped every prostitute in King's Landing, but found no sign of either Cheese or White Worm. In his grief and fury, King Aegon Il ordered all of the city's rat exterminators to be captured and hanged, and this was done. (Ser Otto Hightower took a hundred cats to the Red Keep to take their place.) Although Blood and Cheese spared her life, Queen Helaena didn't exactly survive the fateful twilight. Afterwards, she did not want to eat, bathe or leave her chambers, and could not bear to look at her son Maelor, knowing that she had chosen him to die. The king had no recourse other than to take the boy from her and give him to the their mother, the Dowager Queen Alicent, to be raised as her own. Aegon and his wife began to sleep separately, and Queen Helaena sank deeper and deeper into madness, while the king raged, drank and raged." So I hate all the green people because they are all bad, the only person in the family who is good is Helaena, the rest are all rotten, poor people, he lost his son so she goes after his mother to ask for help and she ends up taking the mother having sex with her lover, what a horrible thing, I feel very sorry for Helena, she does suffer in this green family, but Aegon, Aemond, Alicent do not suffer,they are suffering, they are suffering and because the series wants to portray them as poor things, Helaena does not have love from no one in her family, they all mistreat her, Because Helena doesn't like Alicent or her brothers, you can tell by just watching all her scenes with her family, she never lets Alicent touch her.
I think you are incorrect about George Martin and his views on war - there are wars whose result can change orld for better and that was Dance of the Dragons. Rhaenyra success means gradula upragidng women in Westeros (persumably gay people and bastrads too since Rhaenyra was tolerant person and because Jacaerys was popular enough to people chnage their views on bastardy). Yes, teher are crimes on Team Black and Daemon is dark person... but it was Greens who started this and Greens winning war means keeping misogynistic system. The only right choice is to support Rhaenyra.
Hola Pilar, es un gusto verte de regreso. Te han extrañado. ¿Estás listo para Fuego y Sangre? El infierno está a punto de desatarse. Siempre me encantan tus reacciones, primer episodio muy emotivo. Cuídate.😊 Hi Pilar, its so nice to see you back. You've been missed. Are you ready for Fire and Blood, all hell is about to break loose. Always love your reactions, very emotional first episode. Take care.😊
You're right, it was nice of Aegon to want to help the shepard. Let's just not lose sight of the fact that this is the same man who abandons his illegitimate children to the fighting pits and r@pes female servants.
it seems that the intro recounts the history of the Targaryens the fall of valerya the conquest of aegon the bloody reign of maegor until the arrival of jaeherysse finally to come to the dance of the dragons I love the story of their families
I just asked myself, what about Pilar? I have not seen a video of her since ages. I just was about to search her name in YT and boom! A new Pilar video in my feed! So glad you are back. So glad you are covering the new HotD season!
Es un placer tenerte de nuevo por acá, te conocí por tu reacción a la saga de Lotr y desde entonces me encantó tu canal, encima tus vibes son muy bonitas
You're the first reactor I watched and love for HOTD! I can't wait for your reactions every episode! I also saw your IG post and I understand your crisis over the show having such an attractive cast 😂
I finished book one a few weeks ago. I’m gonna re read it from when I stopped the book club videos and make the videos for those chapters before starting the second one🫶🏼
"Nothing's changed" - except that now the urgency of the situation has become real. If murderers can enter guarded areas and kill the royal family, there is no more careful delaying as Otto and Alicent propose. Aemond and Cole have the better argument.
They were fools to think their delay plan would work after Aemonds actions. And Aegon should be furious at how idiotic his council has been. Specifically otto.
@@TheKillaShow The way I see it, Otto thinks he knows "the board" better than his grandsons and wants to stop them from doing something hasty before he has moved more pieces in the Greens' favour. In that he is certainly right but maddog Daemon throws a wrench into it that will heat up the debate and make his position difficult. Daemon played the terror card, hoping it would do just that.
Having no guards is very curious. I've no answers, but I do hav 2 theories that other reactors haven't mentioned. 1) Daemon still has friends among the guards and may have "arranged" for them to be elsewhere at the time and 2) Criston & Alicent mat have done the same to keep their nocturnal activities more private from the public gossip seekers as much as possible. There are other theories, but this may just be a plot hole of some kind. Don't know why they changed the final scene to only have 2 children when the book version i actually better w/ the 3rd child in the room i.e. choice was between 2 boys (+ the girl also present...). Small change, but I don't see why they chose to change it (at least that much).
Yeah, Craegan Stark sounds just like Ned because the show has officially established that the people from the North in Westeros speak with a Yorkshire accent.
PILAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR Te extrañamooos. Te conocí por la reacción a El Señor de los Anillos, nunca he hablado con nadie sobre mi gusto por la fantasía porque aquí se ve extraño, pero con esos videos sentía que no los veía solo. Es bueno verte de nuevo y con esta preciosa serie, SNK también te encantará.
Welcome back! Helaena and her children are the only innocent ones on team green. They're only on team green because they don't have a choice. She's basically a prisoner of her own evil family. Otto got this whole cycle of bloodshed started by trying to steal Queen Rhaenyra throne and giving it to child grapest Aegon all so he could remain Hand. Aemond may not be evil yet but he is a bully who murdered a child. If someone chases down a kid in a semitruck and doesn't stop in time to prevent running them over it's still considered murder. Alicent should know better than to hook up with that repulsive character Cole. The last girl he hooked up with rejected him, broke his black heart and he has been bitter and seeking revenge ever since. Both sides feel the sting of loss now and the realm will burn 🔥
@@jabbajoinj8620 Children are the only truly innocent. We all kind of lose that at a certain age no matter how good people try to be. The only reason I added Helaena in that mix is because she doesn't seem all there (almost childlike in a way) and she's just a victim of her family. Now if we're talking about total amount of victims from the war that Otto and the greens started the list is long and it includes most of the realm including Queen Rhaenyra and her supporters. She's not innocent but none of this would have happened if the greens didn't steal her throne
@@happyslapsgiving5421 rhaenys killing hundreds of civilians with her dragon is in your world innocent and Rhaenerya ordering to kill a innocent man, burning him as a disguise, just to marry her uncle is also cool. I guess alicent and the others are evil for you because she didnt want someone with 3 bastards, who took her sons eye out, on the iron throne.
It’s been to long! 😍 so great to have you back, can’t wait for your reactions every week. Also, I hope you can continue your ASOIAF Book reviews, those were great!
Welcome Back! I know how you feel, the opening scene with the Stark music and Winterfell was like we were dropped right in the OG Game of Thrones and it felt good! lol
Como yo interpreto la reacción de Helaena es que ella ya sabía que iba a morir uno de sus hijos (por eso hablaba de que tenía miedo de las ratas), solo que no sabía si iba a ser el niño o la niña, por eso cuando dice que "mataron al niño" se está respondiendo a ella misma sobre la duda que la atormentaba. También hay que tener en cuenta que ella sabe que sus sueños o visiones se hacen realidad, pues no ha fallado ninguna de sus "predicciones" por lo que en la escena donde elije a uno de sus hijos, ella sabe que no puede evitar lo que pasará y por eso se entrega al destino y su elección es tan rápida que parece fría, pero es así porque en realidad es su única opción
"But he's going to have a kingsguard" - no, there is no need for guards upstairs if the stairways are guarded from the lower floors. This way, the royals can have something like a normal life with the constant protection shield out of sight. Secret passages are a major security flaw but no one knows about them. Rhaenyra didn't before Daemon showed her.
@@oliviatellez4951 The usual moronic argument. The man should never sleep and always be standing guard around every family member at once. Mobbing morons only need to speak one sentence.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Yes, it's inconsistent but that's why they had the scene in which Blood forces Cheese to take him upstairs. He couldn't do it without him. It is also why the book has the whole thing take place in the Tower of the Hand. In any case, it takes complete morons to blame Cole for not having guards anywhere with no one else ever noticing they're missing. But that's Team Black for you, I guess.
@@Leo_ofRedKeep Why do you are always acting like you have something up your butt. Who give a shit about Team Black or Team Green. Just going by logic. Also the show itself seems to want to make a case that the kid getting killed cause Cole was bonking Alicent. By logic, in a time of war like this, there should be King's Guards with the Royal Family at all time. What we saw was literally a ghost town. The murderers even walked by the King!
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Helaena was disassociating when she said “They killed the boy”. She experienced both the freeze and the flight reactions when faced with that extremely traumatic situation, and then she disassociated. It’s also heavily implied that Helaena is neurodivergent as well as clairvoyant, I think the actress did an amazing job portraying all of this in the midst of trauma responses.
The actress was so so so incredible.
Thank you thank you THANK YOU for pointing this out. I'm a book reader, I've read the books so many times I have them memorized (I'm autistic and ASoIaF is my special interest) and I'm in love with both the neurodivergent representation and the fact that they made Helaena a dreamer, and when I went through a really traumatic experience involving the death of somebody close to me, my response was VERY similar to what Phia did here. The response book readers had to this episode was so upsetting to me because even though it's different it made perfect sense to me, and seeing people confused or upset at Helaena for not screaming and for giving up her son was such a disservice to Phia's skill as an actress. I was floored by how well she conveyed dissociative shock, and if you pay attention you can hear her muttering "they only want the boy" in her first scene. That moment she starts to say no and interrupts herself, pointing him out, that to me is the very moment she understood what her dreams meant and that she had no choice but to give Jaehaerys up. Brilliant imo, this adaptation is so good.
Yeah, you could tell that she was screaming inside, but couldn't express it openly.
"There's nothing that really happened except the heir to the throne having his head sawn off in his bed" bruh
Yayy! My favorite reactor is BACK! ❤
WELCOME BACK! I know I'm very new here so I didn't have to wait as long as others but I'm so glad that you're back for season 2!
Hi Pilar!
Welcome back to RUclips, we've missed you!
I had a little question...
I know you pretty much restarted your channel from scratch 3 years ago.
Do you still have your old Game of Thrones reaction videos somewhere?
Any chance you could reupload them on a Google Drive somewhere, or something?
They were very good.
So good to see you again 🤍 I was worried you may not react anymore to the show, but here you are.. bless you 🤍
Omg so happy to see you back and so excited to see your reaction of the episode 2
Pilar! Smashing to see you back!
Did you see they made a statue of Viserys in the throne room
Qué bueno que vuelvas a subir videooos !!! Me encantaban los de ASOIAF así que estos me los miro seguro. Saludos !!! 🇦🇷🇦🇷
I'm just gonna note Deamond giving you hard time loving him ^^
Where have you been? Your reactions are missed!
Oh, Pilar. How much I've missed you! 😊
WELCOME BACK!
Welcome back boss
Where is the next video for HoD!!!
😐🤔🤔🤔 dragon music lol
Bienvenida.
Welcome back Pilar You were so missed!
Yesss. I came here looking for her reaction and thought she had retired. So excited for my favorite Daemon/Rhaenyra shipper to be back lol
But where did she go?
Allerie Florent was Alicent's mom. She's praying for her dead family members, so it's significant that she includes Luke in that list.
Rheanrya's dragon cried with her on the beach not only because of their bond but because Luke's dragon was her dragons baby so it's two mothers mourning their babies
Omg😭😭😭😭
Idk in the books dragons don’t seems like they care about killing their own baby so I think it’s more about rhaenyra’s pain.
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And in real life some people do it, too.
Doesn't mean that all humans lack empathy.
Pilar is back, which means HOTD is really back now!
This made me smile so much❤
Nothing happened? What about Aegon's son and heir being decapitated? That will inevitably have terrible consequences. But you're right, there should have been kingsguard around.
Also, Alicent will probably blame Rhaenyra for the murder of her grandson.
I dont think Alicent is going to blame Rhaenyra, i think shes gonna blame herself and no one else.
@@kylemma33 She and Criston better pray that Aegon and Aemond don't find out what they were up to while his son was being killed.
I am team black all the way. But I can't help but feel sad for Helaena because she is the only green which I like no mother should loose their baby like that 😭. I totally expected for Criston Cole to go for Alicent because he likes to screw royal blood. Aegon is not a nice person it was all an act, he even found it funny when they said "Aegon the magnanimous" because deep down he knows he is not big hearted. Alicent is a not a nice person trust me it bad people can do good deeds as well, she was even having sex with the guy that was supposed to keep an eye on the kids and Helaena..
I hope Alicent and Cole are found out.
The rat catcher and his dog were seen twice earlier in the episode, once as Alicent and Cole went into the Council meeting then he was seen walking across the back hall as Aegon was hearing about the blockade. They are a trusted sight no one questions so that's why they take the dog along. That's how they can walk past everyone in the throne room or elsewhere without anyone worrying.
This changes when they have to go upstairs. The man says "Different group of rat catchers work the upstairs" and doesn't want to go because he could be recognised. When he is forced to go he kicks the dog so he wouldn't follow them, because that would give him away.
when youtube refreshes and this pops up. god bless
I know right. It feels like 2022 all over again
Great to see you uploading again ! Your season 1 reactions were honestly the best, particularly the chaos surrounding early season Rhaenyra and Daemon.. 😂
😂😂 it was a chaotic first season we shall see what happens now
Waiting on ep 2 & 3 👉🏾👈🏾
They are up!!!!! Both of them ❤
Alicent did have a Guard on her that night.... 😂😂 or under....
La reacción que más estaba esperando!!! Tengo muchas ganas de ver cómo sigue esta temporada y de ver tus reacciones. 😊😊😊
Alicent is doing the same thing she blamed Rhaenyra for, with the same guard, she's not going to want guards around while she does it.
The two mousers don't attract attention, there are many working in the castle, the dog is for hunting rats.
Is good to have you back 😘.
"iron from Ice". The House Forrester or Iron Wrath, loyal bannermen from the Starks nevera will be forgotten 💪.
I'll give you a sugestión for something for not see. The "spin-off" from the "Game of Thrones", made by Telltale.
Yeah, the have Emilia Clarke, Kit Harrington, Natalie Dorner, Lena Headey Peter Dinklage, Iwan Rheon (I don't remember if there was anymore important character) playing their characters. Don't missunderstand, the history is good, but there will be not a second season (and the cliffhanger is so huge, still hurta almost 9 years later 😓).
16:52 I thought it was bad that Jace came home straight away, I wanted to see more scenes of Jace in the north. The books have several moments of Jace in the north, but apparently the writers chose not to include them, it's a real shame.
10:43 Rhaenys' Scene with Daemon
Eva best who plays the character Rhaenys I talk about her scene with Daemon. "When we did that in the reading and it seemed like a kind of trump card, like whoever has more power" (...) so, what he throws at her in that scene entirely reflects him and his own vulnerability and a desperate need to blame someone"
"Understanding that thing about being an outsider. Those who have been mistreated, those who haven't gotten the position they were raised in or deserve, I feel like there's a deep understanding that Rhaenyra resonates with a lot."
As Rhaenyra was absent for days, it was probably the daemon who received Alicent's letters. I imagine he burned all of Alicent's letters. (I would do the same thing)
I'm sure he did this the first moment he read it
"Friend, how are you? How are you?🥰
I'm sorry for your son😰🤧 You know how it is, accidents happen🤷♀️ but move forward and lift your head so the crown (a princess's, not a Queen's) doesn't fall off, right lol I miss you already." (bro when Alicent speaks The fact that I sent the letters made me angry because, bro, it's only the scriptwriters who can do this shit, I hope Daemon burned all the fake letters.
14:11 I wanted to talk about Rhaenyra in the book in relation to how Lucerys' death happened. How sad Vhagar must have been, the dragon who ended her boy's life. Riding Visenya,a woman she clearly admired and then her beloved Laena. Rhaenyra clearly admired the conqueror. She wore her hair normally tied in a long braid, like her ancestor and even named her daughter after her, who unfortunately did not survive. Besides, in the book the relationship between Laena and Rhaenyra was different.They flew together,visited each other and she was with Laena in her final moments.They promised their children: Jace to Baela and Luke to Rhaena, when the boys were four and three and the girls two. How sad it must have been to think that the dragon that once belonged to a woman she so admired and was inspired by and then to such a dear friend was the very one who killed her son.
10:39 Daemon was Anxious throughout the episode, lashing out at everyone he talked to because he was worried about Rhaenyra. He probably hadn't slept for days, not knowing if she was safe. Then she came back and he did his best to comfort her. (The funny thing is that Dameon was mad at everyone and blamed everyone, but when Rhaenyra arrived he was calm with her presence)
They [Daemon and Rhaenyra] have a connection that no one else on the show shares, they are almost the same person, in different bodies. Sarah Hess.
Matt Smith: “[Blood&Cheese] It's love, grief and vengeance. Daemon feels it's impossible not to exact that feeling of revenge when it's in him... [Jaehaerys' death] isn't his mistake ultimately, but he does put it in motion.”
17:13 Jace's scene with Rhaenyra was very beautiful. Jace placing the crown in front of the mourning is Rhaenyra putting the pain aside to comfort. He trying to hold back to say what he managed and clinging to her afterwards. This scene is important to show that Rhaenyra raised her children in a very loving way. On the other hand, we have a mother (Alicent) who is extremely negligent and neglectful and on the other, Nyra is simply being loving towards all of her children.
Seriously, they put the scene of Alicent lighting the candle for Lucerys, seriously, scriptwriters, this woman doesn't care about Rhaenyra's children, she calls hers bastards and tried to take a child's eye out and then put this ridiculous scene of hers, She called the jace and luke from savages... said he would rather die than let Helaena marry jace... spent 10 years questioning the legitimacy of the Children and putting a target on their and Rhaenyra's foreheads... but yes he does everything I felt the parallel of the wake with Alicent's fake, They are forcing too much, Alicent clearly never liked Rhaenyra's children but is called empathetic for lighting a candle at Lucerys' death... however, Rhaenyra who never had anything against Is Helaena called fake for showing empathy towards another innocent mother? Sometimes it's difficult to understand people, but she's the victim, folks.. she started the war by accident.. she sent Larys to kill Mysaria's informants by accident.. she spent 10 years preparing Aegon to be king by accident. .she questioned the legitimacy of luke/ep8 without meaning to.. she is just the victim of the patriarchy, incredible how everything they do the producers want to make accidental. "Ah, they didn't want to usurp the throne", "Aemond didn't want to kill the boy", damn what a bummer.
18:09 They didn't have Lucerys' body for the funeral so to represent him throughout his life, Jace wore his newborn clothes, Joffrey his toy as a child, Rhaenyra her clothes as an adult.
A lot of people who read the Book Fire and Blood don't like what they did with Cheese and Blood because they changed things. I'm going to give my opinion on the whole episode, so I liked the episode but I expected more from the episode, about the blood and cheese I thought it was cool but it could be much better.
I'm going to talk now about what really happened in the Book Fire and Blood.
Blood and Cheese is one of the darkest moments of the civil war between the Targaryens,known as the Dance of the Dragons.
After receiving information about Luke's death at the hands of Aemond, the Black Council met at Dragonstone and received a raven from Prince Daemon, who at that time was in Harrenhal.
"An eye for an eye, a son for a son," wrote Prince Daemon."Lucerys will be avenged."
Thus begins one of the bloodiest chapters of Dance.
"Let it not be forgotten: in his youth, Daemon Targaryen was the Prince of the City, his face and his laughs were familiar to all the pickpockets, whores and gamblers of Flea Bottom. The prince still had friends in the lowest reaches of King's Landing and followers among the gold cloaks. Unbeknownst to King Aegon, the Hand, or the Dowager Queen, he also had allies at court, even on the green council... And another intermediary, a special friend whom he trusted completely, who knew the taverns and rat pits that festered in the shadows of the Red Keep, as Daemon himself had known, and moved with ease in the shadows of the city. He sought out this pale stranger then, by secret means, to enact terrible revenge."
Her intermediary, as it turns out later, was (Mysaria) and she is the one who recruits Blood and Cheese, in King's Landing.
Blood is described as brutish and deadly, and he had been a sergeant among the Gold Cloaks (City Guard), but was permanently dismissed for beating a prostitute to death during a drunken binge.
Cheese, in turn, was the rat exterminator of the Red Keep and therefore knew all the entrances and exits of the Castle and he is the one who takes Blood to the interior of the castle,without them being seen by anyone.
“Cheese knew the Red Fortress better than the shape of his own dick,” says Cogumelo. The hidden doors and secret tunnels Maegor the Cruel had constructed were as familiar to the exterminator as they were to the rats he hunted. Using a forgotten passage, Cheese took Blood to the heart of the castle, without being seen by any guards. Some say that the prey was the king himself, but Aegon was accompanied by the Kingsguard wherever he went, and not even Cheese knew of an entrance or exit from Maegor's Fortress other than the drawbridge that passed over the dry moat and its formidable iron spikes.
The Tower of the Hand was less dry. The two men climbed the walls, avoiding the spearmen stationed at the tower doors. Ser Otto's quarters were of no interest to them. They went directly to his daughter's quarters, one floor below. Queen Alicent had come to live there after the death of King Viserys, when her son Aegon moved to Maegor's Keep with his queen. After they entered, Cheese tied and gagged the widowed queen while Blood strangled her chambermaid. Then they sat down to wait, as they knew that it was Queen Helaena's custom to take her children to see their grandmother every night before they went to sleep.
Oblivious to the danger, the queen appeared as dusk spread across the castle, accompanied by her three children. Jaehaerys and Jaehaera were six years old and Maelor was two. When they entered the chambers, Helaena was holding his little hand and calling her mother's name. Blood blocked the door and killed the queen's guards while Cheese appeared to get Maelor.
-If they scream, everyone will die - Sangue warned His Grace.
Queen Helaena kept her cool, they say.
-Who are you? -he asked the two.
-Debt collectors -said Cheese. -An eye for an eye, a son for a son.
We just want one to settle the score. We will not harm
rest of you, not by a hair's breadth. What does Your Grace want?
lose?
When she understood what he meant, Queen Helaena pleaded
for men to kill her in the place of one of her children.
-A wife is not a son, said Blood. -It has to be one
boy.
Cheese warned the queen to choose quickly, before Blood was left
I'm tired of the little girl.
-Choose - he said -, otherwise we will kill everyone.
On her knees, crying, Helaena chose the youngest, Maelor. Perhaps she had thought the boy was too young to understand,or perhaps it was because the oldest boy, Jaehaerys, was the firstborn and heir of King Aegon, next in line of succession to the Iron Throne.
-Are you listening, little boy? -Cheese whispered to Maelor. -Your mom wants you dead. He gave Blood a smile, and the hulking swordsman killed Prince Jaehaerys, taking the boy's head off with a single blow. The queen began to scream.
Strangely enough, the rat exterminator and the butcher were true to their word. They did no harm to Queen Helaena or her surviving children, but they fled with the prince's head in their hands. A scream sounded, but Queijo knew the secret passages that the guards did not, and the killers fled. Two days later, Blood was captured at the Gate of the Gods trying to leave King's Landing with Prince Jaehaerys' head in one of his saddlebags. Under torture, he confessed that he was taking the head to Harrenhal, to collect his reward from Prince Daemon. He too
gave a description of the prostitute he claimed had hired them: an older woman, foreign in her accent, with a cape and hood, very pale.The other prostitutes called her Myseria.
After thirteen days of torment, Blood was finally able to die. Queen Alicent ordered Larys Clubfoot to learn his name so he could bathe in the blood of his wife and children, but our sources do not say whether this happened. Ser Luthor Largent and his golden cloaks searched the Street of Silk from top to bottom and investigated and stripped every prostitute in King's Landing, but found no sign of either Cheese or White Worm. In his grief and fury, King Aegon Il ordered all of the city's rat exterminators to be captured and hanged, and this was done. (Ser Otto Hightower took a hundred cats to the Red Keep to take their place.)
Although Blood and Cheese spared her life, Queen Helaena didn't exactly survive the fateful twilight. Afterwards, she did not want to eat, bathe or leave her chambers, and could not bear to look at her son Maelor, knowing that she had chosen him to die. The king had no recourse other than to take the boy from her and give him to the their mother, the Dowager Queen Alicent, to be raised as her own. Aegon and his wife began to sleep separately, and Queen Helaena sank deeper and deeper into madness, while the king raged, drank and raged."
So I hate all the green people because they are all bad, the only person in the family who is good is Helaena, the rest are all rotten, poor people, he lost his son so she goes after his mother to ask for help and she ends up taking the mother having sex with her lover, what a horrible thing, I feel very sorry for Helena, she does suffer in this green family, but Aegon, Aemond, Alicent do not suffer,they are suffering, they are suffering and because the series wants to portray them as poor things, Helaena does not have love from no one in her family, they all mistreat her, Because Helena doesn't like Alicent or her brothers, you can tell by just watching all her scenes with her family, she never lets Alicent touch her.
I think you are incorrect about George Martin and his views on war - there are wars whose result can change orld for better and that was Dance of the Dragons. Rhaenyra success means gradula upragidng women in Westeros (persumably gay people and bastrads too since Rhaenyra was tolerant person and because Jacaerys was popular enough to people chnage their views on bastardy). Yes, teher are crimes on Team Black and Daemon is dark person... but it was Greens who started this and Greens winning war means keeping misogynistic system. The only right choice is to support Rhaenyra.
Oh man, so nice to see you back!! I love your reactions and how much you love Asoiaf!
I believe Alerie Florent was Alicent's mother.
Incidentally, Alerie Hightower was Margaery Tyrell's mother.
Dogs were/ are used to sniff and root out rats
Hola Pilar, es un gusto verte de regreso. Te han extrañado. ¿Estás listo para Fuego y Sangre? El infierno está a punto de desatarse. Siempre me encantan tus reacciones, primer episodio muy emotivo. Cuídate.😊
Hi Pilar, its so nice to see you back. You've been missed. Are you ready for Fire and Blood, all hell is about to break loose. Always love your reactions, very emotional first episode. Take care.😊
Pilar! Hope you're well! I know you've had a rough year but I'm very thankful you are back reacting! What a crazy season this will be! Be well!
Thank you so much❤
You're right, it was nice of Aegon to want to help the shepard. Let's just not lose sight of the fact that this is the same man who abandons his illegitimate children to the fighting pits and r@pes female servants.
it seems that the intro recounts the history of the Targaryens the fall of valerya the conquest of aegon the bloody reign of maegor until the arrival of jaeherysse finally to come to the dance of the dragons I love the story of their families
You should know watch Fallout as well it’s a great show and only 8 eps (renewed for s2)
Welcome back girl....so excited to watch house of the dragon season 2 with u...
#teamBlack🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🔥🔥🔥
I was waiting for your reaction I MISSED YOU LADY
I didn't know you were in a relationship with Math Alliace Daemon
I just asked myself, what about Pilar? I have not seen a video of her since ages. I just was about to search her name in YT and boom! A new Pilar video in my feed!
So glad you are back. So glad you are covering the new HotD season!
I knew you would be back once HOTD was kicking again. So happy to see you reacting again to this super madness. 🤗
Es un placer tenerte de nuevo por acá, te conocí por tu reacción a la saga de Lotr y desde entonces me encantó tu canal, encima tus vibes son muy bonitas
Bienvenida!!! habra version en castellano? sino no importa ya que igual te veo y entiendo jajaja
I remember watching your reactions in season 1. Happy to see you back in season 2. This is awesome!
Yes it is ice. The ancestral sword of house Stark
I missed so much. I'm watching your new vid right now
te amoooo, amo tus reacciones❤ they could never make me hate daemon😭 saludos desde buenos aires :)
What country your from, your accent sounds latina!!!
You're the first reactor I watched and love for HOTD! I can't wait for your reactions every episode!
I also saw your IG post and I understand your crisis over the show having such an attractive cast 😂
You forgot to talk about the child getting decapitated
Dude😂 wait cause you might be right I should’ve talked more about that (I think I did talk about it last few min of the video tho)
so nice to have you back! will you still be reading the asoiaf books?
Yes i will❤
We missed you Pilar!! 💕
i think now that they failed to kill aemond he is going to make them regret that and also daemon will probably split up with rhenyra
I mean no spoilers but definitely not splitting up any time soon 😅
Alerie Flourent is her mom
"That's not Criston Cole, is it?" - She's warging him. He's being hodored. Someone save him!
I think the kid could be murdered because Criston Cole was not at his post.
He was supposed to be outside Helaena... Instead he was inside Alycent.
Missed you 😭😭❤️
Love u pilaaaar
How is your game of thrones book read through going??
I finished book one a few weeks ago. I’m gonna re read it from when I stopped the book club videos and make the videos for those chapters before starting the second one🫶🏼
"Nothing's changed" - except that now the urgency of the situation has become real. If murderers can enter guarded areas and kill the royal family, there is no more careful delaying as Otto and Alicent propose. Aemond and Cole have the better argument.
They were fools to think their delay plan would work after Aemonds actions. And Aegon should be furious at how idiotic his council has been. Specifically otto.
@@TheKillaShow The way I see it, Otto thinks he knows "the board" better than his grandsons and wants to stop them from doing something hasty before he has moved more pieces in the Greens' favour. In that he is certainly right but maddog Daemon throws a wrench into it that will heat up the debate and make his position difficult. Daemon played the terror card, hoping it would do just that.
Having no guards is very curious. I've no answers, but I do hav 2 theories that other reactors haven't mentioned. 1) Daemon still has friends among the guards and may have "arranged" for them to be elsewhere at the time and 2) Criston & Alicent mat have done the same to keep their nocturnal activities more private from the public gossip seekers as much as possible. There are other theories, but this may just be a plot hole of some kind.
Don't know why they changed the final scene to only have 2 children when the book version i actually better w/ the 3rd child in the room i.e. choice was between 2 boys (+ the girl also present...). Small change, but I don't see why they chose to change it (at least that much).
WTF! It's my favorite South American RUclipsr living in the UK!!! WTF, she's back!!!!! Yah!!!!!
👋 Pilar....
Yeah, Craegan Stark sounds just like Ned because the show has officially established that the people from the North in Westeros speak with a Yorkshire accent.
PILAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
Te extrañamooos. Te conocí por la reacción a El Señor de los Anillos, nunca he hablado con nadie sobre mi gusto por la fantasía porque aquí se ve extraño, pero con esos videos sentía que no los veía solo. Es bueno verte de nuevo y con esta preciosa serie, SNK también te encantará.
Welcome back Pilar. Still miss alligator Fufu pillow. I think you might need it for HOTD.
Welcome back Pilar❤ and that's a thoughtful cool gift from your friend. You look really pretty and hope Scotland is cool!
Welcome back! Helaena and her children are the only innocent ones on team green. They're only on team green because they don't have a choice. She's basically a prisoner of her own evil family. Otto got this whole cycle of bloodshed started by trying to steal Queen Rhaenyra throne and giving it to child grapest Aegon all so he could remain Hand. Aemond may not be evil yet but he is a bully who murdered a child. If someone chases down a kid in a semitruck and doesn't stop in time to prevent running them over it's still considered murder. Alicent should know better than to hook up with that repulsive character Cole. The last girl he hooked up with rejected him, broke his black heart and he has been bitter and seeking revenge ever since. Both sides feel the sting of loss now and the realm will burn 🔥
who besides the children is innocent in team black?
@@jabbajoinj8620 Children are the only truly innocent. We all kind of lose that at a certain age no matter how good people try to be. The only reason I added Helaena in that mix is because she doesn't seem all there (almost childlike in a way) and she's just a victim of her family. Now if we're talking about total amount of victims from the war that Otto and the greens started the list is long and it includes most of the realm including Queen Rhaenyra and her supporters. She's not innocent but none of this would have happened if the greens didn't steal her throne
@@jabbajoinj8620
Everyone but Daemon.
Get a grip. 🙄
@@kylethompson3008
Helaena isn't innocent LMAO. 😂
@@happyslapsgiving5421 rhaenys killing hundreds of civilians with her dragon is in your world innocent and Rhaenerya ordering to kill a innocent man, burning him as a disguise, just to marry her uncle is also cool. I guess alicent and the others are evil for you because she didnt want someone with 3 bastards, who took her sons eye out, on the iron throne.
Edit Matt smiths hair to white lol
That’s a brilliant idea I will 😍🧝🏼♀️😂🫶🏻
It’s been to long! 😍 so great to have you back, can’t wait for your reactions every week. Also, I hope you can continue your ASOIAF Book reviews, those were great!
Welcome Back! I know how you feel, the opening scene with the Stark music and Winterfell was like we were dropped right in the OG Game of Thrones and it felt good! lol
Welcome back! So happy for you that you met Matt Smith. He’s awesome!
Pilar! Que sorpresa! Estoy tan feliz de verte! Te han extrañado! So glad you're back! ❤❤❤
Como yo interpreto la reacción de Helaena es que ella ya sabía que iba a morir uno de sus hijos (por eso hablaba de que tenía miedo de las ratas), solo que no sabía si iba a ser el niño o la niña, por eso cuando dice que "mataron al niño" se está respondiendo a ella misma sobre la duda que la atormentaba. También hay que tener en cuenta que ella sabe que sus sueños o visiones se hacen realidad, pues no ha fallado ninguna de sus "predicciones" por lo que en la escena donde elije a uno de sus hijos, ella sabe que no puede evitar lo que pasará y por eso se entrega al destino y su elección es tan rápida que parece fría, pero es así porque en realidad es su única opción
honestly? we got off easy with this ending. the way it was described in the material is nightmare fuel omg. miss you, mama.
I'm not watching this show, but it's nice seeing a video from you again
Bro it's been a year? No way that's real!? Wtf 😦 welcome back!
PILAR!!! so glad to see you back in the saddle :)
Face of an angel. Still just as beautiful as ever!
Como echaba de menos tus vídeos, espero que todo te vaya genial
Welcome back Pilar!!!!! So good to have the show back too!
"But he's going to have a kingsguard" - no, there is no need for guards upstairs if the stairways are guarded from the lower floors. This way, the royals can have something like a normal life with the constant protection shield out of sight. Secret passages are a major security flaw but no one knows about them. Rhaenyra didn't before Daemon showed her.
Ser Crispin was supposed to be standing guard at the queens door not banging out alicent 🤣🤣
@@oliviatellez4951 The usual moronic argument. The man should never sleep and always be standing guard around every family member at once. Mobbing morons only need to speak one sentence.
Well in Season 1, Criston was guarding Rhaenyra's door all time.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Yes, it's inconsistent but that's why they had the scene in which Blood forces Cheese to take him upstairs. He couldn't do it without him.
It is also why the book has the whole thing take place in the Tower of the Hand.
In any case, it takes complete morons to blame Cole for not having guards anywhere with no one else ever noticing they're missing. But that's Team Black for you, I guess.
@@Leo_ofRedKeep Why do you are always acting like you have something up your butt. Who give a shit about Team Black or Team Green. Just going by logic. Also the show itself seems to want to make a case that the kid getting killed cause Cole was bonking Alicent.
By logic, in a time of war like this, there should be King's Guards with the Royal Family at all time. What we saw was literally a ghost town. The murderers even walked by the King!
The lady on this channel is pretty 😊.
OMG WELCOME BACK YOUR GRCE 🥰🙌🍻 WE MISSED YOU SOOOO MUCH
Me paso lo mismo cuando empezó a sonar el último de los stark
Good grief, it's been a year!
Gonna need those attack on titan uploads as well
Long time no see. Welcome back kid.
OH MY GOODNESS!! I'm SO happy to see you back again! This just made my day.
Thank you for saying that❤ welcome back!
Welcome back, Pilar!!!
Happy to see your reactions again
Great reaction!!!!!! Welcome back!!!!!!!!
Welcome Back Queen 👑
So happy to see you back! I never unsubbed you because I had faith you would return one day. :)
That’s really sweet thank you 🫶🏼