I think a topic that often goes unmentioned is Optimal play vs Realistic optimal play Most people get stuck on what is the 'perfect' move here without thinking of the current situation, and their team's behaviour, to see what is the most perfect move that is actually do-able with their team. I probably explained it bad but you probably got the idea, if you like it, make a video on it 😌
Yo I watched some of your videos and it immediately helped me out a ton. I have been so dragon focused since like S9 because I main vi and she takes them so easily but I have been giving up so much tempo and gold by always going for them rather than just clearing camps. Your defensive tempo video helped a ton!
Keep up the great videos, its nice to have actually useful videos from someone who also enjoys shaco. Not just unhinged or clickbait 😂 Learning a lot from you.
You said to gank several times in this video. Even one time by doing a huge circle behind the ennemy botlane to kill them. But isn't ganking there way too much risky ? If the ennemy laner is already gaining ressources from another place, ganking with a risk of not getting kills is a huge risk, no ? But maybe the kill is garanteed and I just don't see it. Good video anyway
They are pushed up and Naut can engage, even if he doesn’t get kills getting the Ezreal low is good to threaten dive and this will create a gold diff for red team
Interesting concept but it has some drawbacks. If enemy knows you gonna do accelerated jungling, enemy jungler will simply not even bother invading or making plays because he expects you to be there, and in the process you're screwing over your own clear time while enemy jungler has a beautiful full clear pattern. This is a typical situation where "I know that he knows that I know that he knows, therefore he knows that I know...", thus doing a stardard macro play is not really a mistake most of the time.
@@SorakaOTP462 i was joking bro, if their jungler recalls expecting us to 'accelerate' our jungling, then it's whatever...that play either still happens where we get kills/camps and we can just react to them being there...but if they don't recall and stick to what they almost always do on the other side of the map, the game is over...go watch my video vs sheiden rank 1 NA...i do my red buff when he shows top thinking i could still dive his bot lane after, it slowed me down and the map was lost and it's very bad
@@Eagzv9 I know you were joking xD Sorry sometimes I post troll comments on your videos possibly encouraging people to engage in commenting and increasing your publicity.
Your actually right tho, atleast for lower ranks, theres only been maybe 2 games out of 100 where enemy jungle tried to trade me. They always either contest or do nothing but full clear. So not full clearing will actually lose you games in lower elo. Doing this accelerated jungling stuff is stuff ive tried time and time again, and it never works because 1: teammates are extremely unreliable, wont help in even the most hard winning fights because they are scared for no reason 2. You mess up your tempo, meaning you have more chance of making a key mistake and completely losing the game(Especially since your low elo), and 3. Even if it works out, it just simply doesnt matter. Your teammates dont take advantage of any of it, you cant do it all by yourself, and it ends up just being a waste of time. Best strat to carry low elo? Do nothing. Literally play farm afk, get yourself ahead and win. Only take 100% guaranteed OBJs. That you know you can get SOLO. Never rely on team ever. Even with full prio and wave crashed they still wont rotate. And guess what? Im ranking up now. Maybe i can accelerate jungle in higher ranks.
I feel like all the high elo jungle coaching videos have been trying to teach us the opposite and a correct way to play, and something like this would be considered a low elo way to play. It just gets confusing. Obviously there are a lot of conditions and having to understand when to do what.. but trying to fit my jungle to a lot of what other past masters+ coaches have tried to teach me has made my jungling a bit sterile and not very good (i deranked from emerald 1 to low plat trying to "improve" my jungling). I feel this way of "accelerating" your jungling makes more sense. Maybe its just the meta shifting and the way i learned to jungle many seasons ago was the better way back then.
no, its simply playing for where there are the most resources. After taking a neutral objective or getting a kill, you are down tempo, the enemy jg has a move to try to take something from you, and theyre almost always going to move to the opposite side of the map where both yours and theirs camps are up. when you skip a quadrant, its not going anywhere, you can always clear it after basing.
Its because different strats work in different elos. It all depends on your teammates. Lower elos, just full clear bro, go for guaranteed plays and you will win almost every game. Higher elos with people who have more brain, maybe these strats will work more. Especially since people get more predictable the higher you go. Thats why other coaches preach this type of power farming play style. Its the only consistent one. Theres too many factors in league to account for when doing these more risky plays, just power farm, and win. Your teammates rage? oh well. Carry anyways.
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin other coaches preach the power farming playstyle because they cant jungle, you listen to the enemy champions - that's what jungling has always been, if they tell you to full clear you full clear...the amount of players ive coached who are stuck because of getting coached by others who tell them to full clear is unreal
@@Eagzv9 Ok then prove it to us, go unranked to chall since any tier below challenger is low elo to you. Its not low elo coaches preaching this, its consistently rank 1, rank 2 challenger coaches. (sinerias, perryjg, etc) Show us you doing this playstyle all the way to challenger and i 100% guarantee you, that you will fail. You will end up doing exactly what i said (power farm) in lower elos to get out of them. League isnt a game you can solo win on your own. There are no mechanics like in FPS games where you need to aim. One mistake at a key time and its over, and even if its not over the game will drag to 40+ minutes because of that one mistake. thats why you play the most consistent play style with the most agency, and that is power farming. Power farming they teach isnt just being afk, but its only taking 100% plays for the most part.
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I think a topic that often goes unmentioned is Optimal play vs Realistic optimal play
Most people get stuck on what is the 'perfect' move here without thinking of the current situation, and their team's behaviour, to see what is the most perfect move that is actually do-able with their team. I probably explained it bad but you probably got the idea, if you like it, make a video on it 😌
these short videos with many clips are a great help, thank you.
np bro
Yo I watched some of your videos and it immediately helped me out a ton. I have been so dragon focused since like S9 because I main vi and she takes them so easily but I have been giving up so much tempo and gold by always going for them rather than just clearing camps. Your defensive tempo video helped a ton!
np man glad you like the vids
short and straight to the point, thanks.
np i got you
I actually love this form of content, thanks Eagz, you're honestly a G.
yeh how good is it…thanks a lot though for real
The editing style in this video is amazing bro and of course another very good jungling video as usual
appreciate that wolfy thank you
thx man, it helps me alot to learn jg corectely
np bro ty for the comment
it doesn't matter that it's clickbait if it's short and high quality, which this is!
i think the content backs up the title tbh 😎
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Great video.great content.great format
thank you tim
Keep up the great videos, its nice to have actually useful videos from someone who also enjoys shaco. Not just unhinged or clickbait 😂
Learning a lot from you.
yeh just dont watch my stream bro
@Eagzv9 the game gets the better of us all at one point or another 😆
Nice vid, but call me the s-slur again and you'll hear from my lawyers.
Can you talk about matchups, and build importance in some video please?
maybe bro...maybe, for jungle or?
@ yea for jg please
its weird hearing you talk about yourself in 3rd person
You said to gank several times in this video. Even one time by doing a huge circle behind the ennemy botlane to kill them. But isn't ganking there way too much risky ? If the ennemy laner is already gaining ressources from another place, ganking with a risk of not getting kills is a huge risk, no ? But maybe the kill is garanteed and I just don't see it. Good video anyway
They are pushed up and Naut can engage, even if he doesn’t get kills getting the Ezreal low is good to threaten dive and this will create a gold diff for red team
i mean challenger still make mistake even rank 1 so its hard to play perfectly every game
absolutely, we’re all human
accelarete jng? more like clean enemy buff asap so you gain an advantage over them
no idea what you just typed bro
isnt that just crossmapping
Interesting concept but it has some drawbacks. If enemy knows you gonna do accelerated jungling, enemy jungler will simply not even bother invading or making plays because he expects you to be there, and in the process you're screwing over your own clear time while enemy jungler has a beautiful full clear pattern.
This is a typical situation where "I know that he knows that I know that he knows, therefore he knows that I know...", thus doing a stardard macro play is not really a mistake most of the time.
just full clear every game bro
@@Eagzv9 thanks, I trust you since I watch your every video.
@@SorakaOTP462 i was joking bro, if their jungler recalls expecting us to 'accelerate' our jungling, then it's whatever...that play either still happens where we get kills/camps and we can just react to them being there...but if they don't recall and stick to what they almost always do on the other side of the map, the game is over...go watch my video vs sheiden rank 1 NA...i do my red buff when he shows top thinking i could still dive his bot lane after, it slowed me down and the map was lost and it's very bad
@@Eagzv9 I know you were joking xD
Sorry sometimes I post troll comments on your videos possibly encouraging people to engage in commenting and increasing your publicity.
Your actually right tho, atleast for lower ranks, theres only been maybe 2 games out of 100 where enemy jungle tried to trade me. They always either contest or do nothing but full clear. So not full clearing will actually lose you games in lower elo. Doing this accelerated jungling stuff is stuff ive tried time and time again, and it never works because 1: teammates are extremely unreliable, wont help in even the most hard winning fights because they are scared for no reason 2. You mess up your tempo, meaning you have more chance of making a key mistake and completely losing the game(Especially since your low elo), and 3. Even if it works out, it just simply doesnt matter. Your teammates dont take advantage of any of it, you cant do it all by yourself, and it ends up just being a waste of time.
Best strat to carry low elo? Do nothing. Literally play farm afk, get yourself ahead and win. Only take 100% guaranteed OBJs. That you know you can get SOLO. Never rely on team ever. Even with full prio and wave crashed they still wont rotate. And guess what? Im ranking up now. Maybe i can accelerate jungle in higher ranks.
I already do that in Bronze tho
dont kid yourself bro
frfr
I feel like all the high elo jungle coaching videos have been trying to teach us the opposite and a correct way to play, and something like this would be considered a low elo way to play. It just gets confusing. Obviously there are a lot of conditions and having to understand when to do what.. but trying to fit my jungle to a lot of what other past masters+ coaches have tried to teach me has made my jungling a bit sterile and not very good (i deranked from emerald 1 to low plat trying to "improve" my jungling). I feel this way of "accelerating" your jungling makes more sense. Maybe its just the meta shifting and the way i learned to jungle many seasons ago was the better way back then.
no, its simply playing for where there are the most resources. After taking a neutral objective or getting a kill, you are down tempo, the enemy jg has a move to try to take something from you, and theyre almost always going to move to the opposite side of the map where both yours and theirs camps are up. when you skip a quadrant, its not going anywhere, you can always clear it after basing.
bro you are listening to players in low elo, please tune out all the noise and just think about enemy jg
Its because different strats work in different elos. It all depends on your teammates. Lower elos, just full clear bro, go for guaranteed plays and you will win almost every game. Higher elos with people who have more brain, maybe these strats will work more. Especially since people get more predictable the higher you go.
Thats why other coaches preach this type of power farming play style. Its the only consistent one. Theres too many factors in league to account for when doing these more risky plays, just power farm, and win. Your teammates rage? oh well. Carry anyways.
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin other coaches preach the power farming playstyle because they cant jungle, you listen to the enemy champions - that's what jungling has always been, if they tell you to full clear you full clear...the amount of players ive coached who are stuck because of getting coached by others who tell them to full clear is unreal
@@Eagzv9 Ok then prove it to us, go unranked to chall since any tier below challenger is low elo to you.
Its not low elo coaches preaching this, its consistently rank 1, rank 2 challenger coaches. (sinerias, perryjg, etc)
Show us you doing this playstyle all the way to challenger and i 100% guarantee you, that you will fail. You will end up doing exactly what i said (power farm) in lower elos to get out of them. League isnt a game you can solo win on your own. There are no mechanics like in FPS games where you need to aim. One mistake at a key time and its over, and even if its not over the game will drag to 40+ minutes because of that one mistake. thats why you play the most consistent play style with the most agency, and that is power farming. Power farming they teach isnt just being afk, but its only taking 100% plays for the most part.