I took DB one round. Died to a team of two. One was downed. The other had 5hp total. Everything else was burned. They dropped down to res their teammate and died. I win. 😈
The Rival. I can reasonably get the other shotguns to work for me, but the rival ALWAYS fails me yet whenever I face one it always feels like it one taps me at ranges twice that I need to use it at. However I do find memeing with double Rival Handcannons with slugs in them quite entertaining personally.
same, i can reliably kill with most shotguns rival always needs follow up shots no matter how close i am. but whne the enemy has one i get one shot out of a second story window at like 15 meters
The terminus is the bane of my existence, more so than dualies, fanning or anything else. The terminus sells me every time regardless of if I have levering or not, it doesn't matter what ammo I take, whether its the hand-cannon or the regular that gun will literally always fail me when I need it most.
Try the mach. Super stable, 2 taps to torso in close because of long barrel, same rapid pewing. Normal Bornheim is hit or miss for me. Nothing like hitting 4 limb shots.
Any scottfield variants for me. Idk why the gun is just a mini nerf gun u get hanging in the middle of the isle at grocery stores. I try hard with it and it just doesn’t work. Banging video as always mr. Hornet man
when i have quatermaster, i sometimes pick a rifle 3-slot, and a 2-slot shotgun compact specter or rival, with slug ammo +130$. that give a oneshot capacity with 4 or 2 bullet, its quite efficient. the beauty of the minishotgun, is the ammo type change totally the way we use it. 4 different ammo.
My least favorite gun has to be the centennial. I like sniper scopes, but the ranges I can hit headshots with it are outside of its effective range. It just doesn't feel good to use. It's a lever gun that fire slow, but doesn't pack a punch.
Centennial has a bigger velocity with FMJ than the Vetterli with regular Ammo. Just a thing people might wanna consider before writing it off. Also Terminus has Flachette! I mean COME ON!
The vetterli has more base damage and has access to high velocity. It also is cheaper, has a higher rate of fire, and more ammo reserve. Sights are literally the only reason you should consider the cenntenial. Levering on it is a meme. It's too weak as is and should be buffed to be more inline with the vetterli or should get a stat buff to make the gun actually shine somehow.
@@trickmiller8169 well no, like said its big advantage is velocity, especially with FMJ. Also the rate of fire difference of 2 rounds per minute is neglectable.
Berthie, possibly martini and lemat, i think its something to do with muzzle velocity, though for some reason despite the berthier’s velo i cant hit shit with it, have to go through most of the ammo with it, i’m more used to things like winnie, cheaper weapons and such, but the martini has the same velo basically. I don’t much like custom ammo even when i was in 6 stars.
Dualies never work for me, meanwhile one of my teammates gets such ridiculous clutches with them fairly often. Shotguns fail me so often too since I always seem to get caught out between compounds when I run them.
I enjoy playing for KD while maintaining a pretty aggressive playstyle. I was stuck at one point on a loss streak (being a 5 star down to 3). Then I started using a Centennial and man.. I'm back in business! (never evaluated that gun before)
Crossbow and Uppercut. Even at near point blank range, I never OHK with the crossbow's standard bolts. For the Uppercut, it has the worst hitreg of any gun that I run. Literal STATIONARY targets don't even get hitmarkers.
i only started using the terminus because i see hornet clean up with it when it comes out and it looks sick and i respect hornet. now it is probably my favorite shotgun. now hornet posts a video saying its one of his least favorite guns. how long have i been living a lie.
Centennial is garbage if you start running into compounds and stay indoors. I make sure to take mid-long range fights, because damn near every other rifle / decent revolver in the game will out damage you simply because of fire rate. I do enjoy 600m/s during outdoors, but still inside compounds, fights. It's almost hitscan until the fights occur outside a compound. Of course, at that point, long ammo weapons become an uphill battle, but you have a decent chance with 180m to spare, and we all know the majority of gun fights are 95% of the time, below 100m.
I am impressed by the way your aim is stable, I miss many shots on stationary players because of the balance of the aim and whenever I try to control it to aim at the head, I end up taking a headshot myself because it takes too long or I simply make a mistake. it is much more common
I sometimes have this issue of missing the easiest first shot of my life but then the 2nd one is always the hs , control is still something i always need to improve
For me, this really is a focus and energy thing. If I am tired I really struggle to make fast and exact movements. In those times I even miss stationary shots. As far as I analysed it, in those time I relax my hand to often and then I shake and or don't get into control fast enough if I put tension on it again. So if this problem consists with you, then maybe try to change your handposition. And sometimes it's actually the hardware as well. If your mouse is not precise and or fast enough, it's not possible to accurately pin the exact points you want to hit.
Terminus is weird without levering, feels a bit off, like the whole rhythm of shooting is messed up. With levering it's quite good, but usually if i dedicated to the shotgun on the hunter, i won't take levering just for terminus and play slate instead, or something like that Centennial was not very good at the start, but now it's one of my favorites, it's kinda fun and enjoyable Nitra is disappointing. You get a good game with it, you feel like it's the Nitra day. And next game it's just tag after tag. Feels bad, and with only 6 shots, and getting like 2 out of boxes doesn't seem worth the money spent Oh, and dual wield. I don't know how, but i can't land 2 shots in 10m, but i get headshot by someone from 60m from me in 2-3 shots. I simply can't wrap my head around it. And i suck with short shotguns, besides slugs obviously
I can't hit anything with the mosin or label but Im pretty confident with a berthier or a winfield in my hands. Im more confident with a bow or crossbow against a trio than I am a mosin or label.
Don't know why, but i can't kill at least someone with romero for a long long time. There even was a moment, when i pannyshot a guy from super close distance . It was a hit marker, he survived. Then i two tap him with new army and we traded
For me Veterlli Marksman is one of the best scopes in the game. Perfect scope zoom, even without special ammo i feel like this sniper is reliable at a longer distance shots
I kinda like all the guns. I think the issue is they don't like me. I'm kinda awful with all of them, which means I can use them all whenever I want with similar performance!
in your Centennial clip when you're blow chapel and you're scoping in some of the darkness around structures/hunters got highlighted. Does that have to do with your game settings?
Regular. The tactic is to hit someone with the sparks, bring them down into 1-hit-from-anything range, and then they just need to get grazed by a pellet.
Idk for me lately the Romero just cant kill anyone no matter the range, few months ago it was actually doing something and meanwhile I get onetapped by it over 15m without slugs while I cant even kill at 5m with it
Funny you mention the nitro....cant use it outside of sniffing distance i feel like most the time. Its me for sure im just bad but god hitting the long shots with that wack ass "sight" just doesn't work for me lmao
For me it's not really the guns, just the fact that if I ever buy something somewhat expensive or try for a quest challenge I just get one tapped all day.
The Caldwell Pax (which is my favorite pistol, sound-wise) has a surprisingly low muzzle velocity and I can’t even practice with it because 99% of the time I peek I straight up just miss. There’s no improvement, I don’t know where the bullet went. I just suck. I do be in love with the officer nagant, though! (Also the Nitro would seriously do well with a consistency buff at its “optimal range”. Not saying one-shots to arms or whatever but I would advocate against the gun doing as advertised in its current state lol)
Why would anyone choose the Centennial? It is such a crap weapon. Everything it does the Vetterli does better with the possible exception being muzzle velocity. It is a hit-scan weapon, that's it. Maybe I'm preaching to the choir on this but maybe not everybody is going to agree with me on this, but this is just an opinion piece. Here are my suggestions for how they need to buff the Centennial: Reduce the price (again lol) to about 100-120 dollars so that it can be a contraband weapon AND not just a weapon you can also find in the open world. Increase the rate of fire to about at least as fast as the Vetterli which is 42rpm or 45 rpm. 45rpm makes sense seeing as how it is a lever-action rifle and the Vetterli is bolt-action. Increase the damage to at least as much as the Vetterli 130 or 132, so it is not so pathetic. Increase the Handling from 76%? to 82 or 84% Improve the levering yet again, or did they fix it? I haven't used levering on the Centennial in so long. That is what I could come up with, I am not right or wrong, this was just my opinion and I know not everyone is going to agree with this but there you go. Hornet, nice vid as usual, wish I could play half as good as you. I would love to hear your guy's thoughts on this.
Yes the centennial is not very good at all which comes down to everything u mentioned plus it being medium ammo , they planed to rework ammo stacking in the future so maybe they will seperate the calibers and be able to balance guns of yhe same ammo type individually kinda exciting tbh
see, i super enjoy the cenni (with just fmjs, usually) because of its sight picture and the speed of the bullet. they “recently” buffed it’s RoF while ads’d with iron repeater and it’s pretty nice. i dunno, maybe i just like bad guns. the fast fmj medium bullets speak to me lol
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That first cennie match being a great example of "Dragonsbreath: it doesn't mean I win, it means you lose"
Exactly
I took DB one round. Died to a team of two. One was downed. The other had 5hp total. Everything else was burned. They dropped down to res their teammate and died.
I win. 😈
@@phosphor112 DB encourages a shitty play style, it does nothing but keep you hard stuck in MMR3
@@ReeferSmoker its fun tho. but really romero DB with upper cut is pretty legit
The Rival. I can reasonably get the other shotguns to work for me, but the rival ALWAYS fails me yet whenever I face one it always feels like it one taps me at ranges twice that I need to use it at. However I do find memeing with double Rival Handcannons with slugs in them quite entertaining personally.
same, i can reliably kill with most shotguns rival always needs follow up shots no matter how close i am. but whne the enemy has one i get one shot out of a second story window at like 15 meters
Double Rival with slugs is interesting actually.
The rival for me is the 2 tap at 18m king usually
'look, it's a bunch of white shirts with winnies shooting at AI, haha, easy kills' - me and my friend about a minute before dying to winnie headshot
The terminus is the bane of my existence, more so than dualies, fanning or anything else. The terminus sells me every time regardless of if I have levering or not, it doesn't matter what ammo I take, whether its the hand-cannon or the regular that gun will literally always fail me when I need it most.
6:37 this light change during ads is hilarious
That whole underground area has such weird lighting
The sparks pistol always feels like I'm playing while drunk. I know it's a super good gun, but I can't ever get it to work with me.
My #1 "I can not get kills with this gun for the life of me" is the bornheim
Try the mach. Super stable, 2 taps to torso in close because of long barrel, same rapid pewing. Normal Bornheim is hit or miss for me. Nothing like hitting 4 limb shots.
Any scottfield variants for me. Idk why the gun is just a mini nerf gun u get hanging in the middle of the isle at grocery stores. I try hard with it and it just doesn’t work. Banging video as always mr. Hornet man
Thanksss
@@hornetlul yessss
when i have quatermaster, i sometimes pick a rifle 3-slot, and a 2-slot shotgun compact specter or rival, with slug ammo +130$.
that give a oneshot capacity with 4 or 2 bullet, its quite efficient.
the beauty of the minishotgun, is the ammo type change totally the way we use it. 4 different ammo.
for me its probably the sparks pistol, i feel like a lot of my shots are on target but i just keep missing with it
I had that issue at release but got used to it more the more i forced myself to play it
When you forget to bring dumdums ICANT
My "never works for me" is the Spectre. I kinda hate that gun, everything else seems to work just fine but there's something screwy with that one.
My least favorite gun has to be the centennial. I like sniper scopes, but the ranges I can hit headshots with it are outside of its effective range. It just doesn't feel good to use. It's a lever gun that fire slow, but doesn't pack a punch.
Centennial has a bigger velocity with FMJ than the Vetterli with regular Ammo. Just a thing people might wanna consider before writing it off. Also Terminus has Flachette! I mean COME ON!
The vetterli has more base damage and has access to high velocity. It also is cheaper, has a higher rate of fire, and more ammo reserve. Sights are literally the only reason you should consider the cenntenial. Levering on it is a meme. It's too weak as is and should be buffed to be more inline with the vetterli or should get a stat buff to make the gun actually shine somehow.
@@trickmiller8169 well no, like said its big advantage is velocity, especially with FMJ. Also the rate of fire difference of 2 rounds per minute is neglectable.
@@trickmiller8169 tbf i cant stand the vetterli for some reason, while Cente is my absolute favourite gun :D
Berthie, possibly martini and lemat, i think its something to do with muzzle velocity, though for some reason despite the berthier’s velo i cant hit shit with it, have to go through most of the ammo with it, i’m more used to things like winnie, cheaper weapons and such, but the martini has the same velo basically. I don’t much like custom ammo even when i was in 6 stars.
I used to have trouble with the berthier but thats because of the ironsight for me
25:30 was wild bro good job
I was thinking the same thing, such a smart play
I think it's funny that the general consensus for most hunt creators is they don't like the base centennial
Dualies never work for me, meanwhile one of my teammates gets such ridiculous clutches with them fairly often. Shotguns fail me so often too since I always seem to get caught out between compounds when I run them.
Which weapon sets you straight on fire ?
Dragon breath on shotguns
for me it's the martini henry. I can not for the life of me get that thing to sing. She only croaks in my hands.
I enjoy playing for KD while maintaining a pretty aggressive playstyle. I was stuck at one point on a loss streak (being a 5 star down to 3). Then I started using a Centennial and man.. I'm back in business! (never evaluated that gun before)
Crossbow and Uppercut. Even at near point blank range, I never OHK with the crossbow's standard bolts. For the Uppercut, it has the worst hitreg of any gun that I run. Literal STATIONARY targets don't even get hitmarkers.
Doing book of weapons on the mosin obrez was the most painful gaming experience in my life. I don’t think I hit a single pvp shot.
For me it will have to be the berthier.... Man o man the amount of deaths because I just can't land a shot
Dam hornet those boys at chapel really made you work for it.
i only started using the terminus because i see hornet clean up with it when it comes out and it looks sick and i respect hornet. now it is probably my favorite shotgun. now hornet posts a video saying its one of his least favorite guns. how long have i been living a lie.
For me it’s either the nagant carbine or the terminus, slate is just so consistent compared to terminus
You scared me with the cut to where you were killing the spider at darrow man
Soz
Centennial is garbage if you start running into compounds and stay indoors. I make sure to take mid-long range fights, because damn near every other rifle / decent revolver in the game will out damage you simply because of fire rate.
I do enjoy 600m/s during outdoors, but still inside compounds, fights. It's almost hitscan until the fights occur outside a compound. Of course, at that point, long ammo weapons become an uphill battle, but you have a decent chance with 180m to spare, and we all know the majority of gun fights are 95% of the time, below 100m.
Levering with the Terminus is almost easy mode.
Yeah it’s gotta be the centennial for me as well I just can’t get that gun to work for me
for me its the officer, always gets out gunned or i get hs, or it just doesnt down in 3 shots.
Never understand dudes standing still while taking multiple Terminus blasts.
I am impressed by the way your aim is stable, I miss many shots on stationary players because of the balance of the aim and whenever I try to control it to aim at the head, I end up taking a headshot myself because it takes too long or I simply make a mistake. it is much more common
I know that feeling. On some days I also have some problems controlling the sway but then there are days where it isn't a problem🤷
I sometimes have this issue of missing the easiest first shot of my life but then the 2nd one is always the hs , control is still something i always need to improve
For me, this really is a focus and energy thing. If I am tired I really struggle to make fast and exact movements. In those times I even miss stationary shots. As far as I analysed it, in those time I relax my hand to often and then I shake and or don't get into control fast enough if I put tension on it again. So if this problem consists with you, then maybe try to change your handposition. And sometimes it's actually the hardware as well. If your mouse is not precise and or fast enough, it's not possible to accurately pin the exact points you want to hit.
Terminus is weird without levering, feels a bit off, like the whole rhythm of shooting is messed up. With levering it's quite good, but usually if i dedicated to the shotgun on the hunter, i won't take levering just for terminus and play slate instead, or something like that
Centennial was not very good at the start, but now it's one of my favorites, it's kinda fun and enjoyable
Nitra is disappointing. You get a good game with it, you feel like it's the Nitra day. And next game it's just tag after tag. Feels bad, and with only 6 shots, and getting like 2 out of boxes doesn't seem worth the money spent
Oh, and dual wield. I don't know how, but i can't land 2 shots in 10m, but i get headshot by someone from 60m from me in 2-3 shots. I simply can't wrap my head around it.
And i suck with short shotguns, besides slugs obviously
I can't hit anything with the mosin or label but Im pretty confident with a berthier or a winfield in my hands. Im more confident with a bow or crossbow against a trio than I am a mosin or label.
The rival fails me every single time. full or short, slug or flechette. it doesnt matter.
For me its the Slate. Even with slugs I feel like I'm playing at a disadvantage because I never get the one shot.
tbh i feel like the normal crossbow bolt is better then the shot bolt, cause if u dont one-shot they at least bleed
Don't know why, but i can't kill at least someone with romero for a long long time. There even was a moment, when i pannyshot a guy from super close distance . It was a hit marker, he survived. Then i two tap him with new army and we traded
Kudos. Some high tactical IQ moments, there! Thx
The guns that don't work in martini and terminus, with shotgun i need like 2-5 shots to make 1 kill xD
For me is the veterli Marksman red flag and I dont know why. I love verterli, Dead eye and the other varionts. But this one I cant handle 🤠
The gun is cursed until i got Sofia DLC for that beautiful Weeping Marigold skin on the vetterli marksman. But Vetterli deadeye is still better :((
For me Veterlli Marksman is one of the best scopes in the game. Perfect scope zoom, even without special ammo i feel like this sniper is reliable at a longer distance shots
Well my best performance gun is definitely uppercut. Love to rock two single uppercuts every once in awhile
dont enjoythe uppercut, but i like how you roll. one of my favorite loadours is 3 paxes, dualies for spammy and a single one for precision
@@Vezrabuto Oh fella gunslinger I see :D
I'm absolutely shite with the crossbows, everything else has varying success but crossbows I just never have any impact with
Nitro with no bleed ammo is a meme.
it's insanely good if you hit body shots. Take it with 2 ammo boxes and you wipe lobbies. I take it whenever I get it from bodies and run it.
@@trickmiller8169 cap
I love the terminus, it is one of my Ol' Reliables.
What if you wanted to ads but the weird fog effect in the healing waters church basement said 💨💨💨
I kinda like all the guns. I think the issue is they don't like me. I'm kinda awful with all of them, which means I can use them all whenever I want with similar performance!
in your Centennial clip when you're blow chapel and you're scoping in some of the darkness around structures/hunters got highlighted. Does that have to do with your game settings?
You mean the healing waters basement , no thats just an ancient lighting bug
I hate that Sparks is the weapon I just can't help but play badly with. It's sad because I know how good it can be. For most people I guess
Also, are you using the terminus there with slugs or regular ammo? Range seemed crazy
Regular. The tactic is to hit someone with the sparks, bring them down into 1-hit-from-anything range, and then they just need to get grazed by a pellet.
For me its slate and obrez. Cant hit shit with it. Even the springfield compact works better for me xD
I'm pretty new to the game. Just wanted to say i really like your vids. Keep it going! :P
I love the outro, I watch it every time haha
Ahah thats neat
Idk for me lately the Romero just cant kill anyone no matter the range, few months ago it was actually doing something and meanwhile I get onetapped by it over 15m without slugs while I cant even kill at 5m with it
nailed it as always man
For me It's like any weapon I use i just cant do anything with lol
the mosin has never worked for me
Funny you mention the nitro....cant use it outside of sniffing distance i feel like most the time. Its me for sure im just bad but god hitting the long shots with that wack ass "sight" just doesn't work for me lmao
How do you have so many hunter upgrade points?
ANY shotgun fucks with me. i cannot use them for some reason. It just doesn't hit like it's supposed to
terminus if i hold mouse button its recoil is to much if i dont its to slow + veterli silencer i know its good just not for me
the db I always gotta use 2 shots to kill one guy
I refuse to use the Rival, Berthier, and LeMat. They hate me, and I hate them.
The nitro for me, I just can’t adapt to the hideous iron sight.
Yep I feel that
Centennial/Pax FMJ is my favourite loadout.
The gun i really don't enjoy is the springfield, hammer is too up in my face :(
I will asume u dont like the ironside much more then :D
@@hornetlul bahahahah i love having a lunchbox taped to my gun! ;D
For me it is absolutely the Springfield ^^
Hornet, the base nagant revolver never works for me :(
hornet there's no weapon that works for me
For me it's not really the guns, just the fact that if I ever buy something somewhat expensive or try for a quest challenge I just get one tapped all day.
amazing vid again
I got a 1.5 kd with 300 hours, but can never hit a shot with any type of silencer weapon 😂 everything else goes fine.
I’m this same way with the centennial, so I tried it, and remembered why I don’t use it because it’s fucking awful
i always run the centennial and terminus lol
can you 1v1 Rachta and Vombuz after the update? You are my bet for the best player. sick aim bro much love
love your content bro❤
I dont like nagant silencer but for my brother is great and fun weapon. Also rival most of the time i cant kill anyone in one hit.
Specter never works for me but i really want to like it 😭
Why cant i be as good as you in this game
Centi is so satisfying tho
How tf do you have 350+ available traits for your hunters
A good year of dark tribute
For me the best cheap weapon is the crossbow
outcrouched!
The nitro never works for me 2, i just get hitmarkers even if i aim upperbody , i dont think its that strong as people say it is imo
Try it with shredder that will change your mind :D
Handcross bow. I think ive had more kills on tge derrenger than a handcrossbow lol
The Caldwell Pax (which is my favorite pistol, sound-wise) has a surprisingly low muzzle velocity and I can’t even practice with it because 99% of the time I peek I straight up just miss. There’s no improvement, I don’t know where the bullet went. I just suck.
I do be in love with the officer nagant, though!
(Also the Nitro would seriously do well with a consistency buff at its “optimal range”. Not saying one-shots to arms or whatever but I would advocate against the gun doing as advertised in its current state lol)
Pax has the same velocity as the officer, lol
i dont have a least favorite gun, except for the scottfield 2 slot that just straight up sucks ass
YEAH BOIIIIII
for me personally i find the specter just awful its easily my least favorite shotgun. ive had any of the others work for me but not the specter
Why would anyone choose the Centennial? It is such a crap weapon. Everything it does the Vetterli does better with the possible exception being muzzle velocity. It is a hit-scan weapon, that's it. Maybe I'm preaching to the choir on this but maybe not everybody is going to agree with me on this, but this is just an opinion piece. Here are my suggestions for how they need to buff the Centennial:
Reduce the price (again lol) to about 100-120 dollars so that it can be a contraband weapon AND not just a weapon you can also find in the open world.
Increase the rate of fire to about at least as fast as the Vetterli which is 42rpm or 45 rpm. 45rpm makes sense seeing as how it is a lever-action rifle and the Vetterli is bolt-action.
Increase the damage to at least as much as the Vetterli 130 or 132, so it is not so pathetic.
Increase the Handling from 76%? to 82 or 84%
Improve the levering yet again, or did they fix it? I haven't used levering on the Centennial in so long.
That is what I could come up with, I am not right or wrong, this was just my opinion and I know not everyone is going to agree with this but there you go. Hornet, nice vid as usual, wish I could play half as good as you.
I would love to hear your guy's thoughts on this.
Yes the centennial is not very good at all which comes down to everything u mentioned plus it being medium ammo , they planed to rework ammo stacking in the future so maybe they will seperate the calibers and be able to balance guns of yhe same ammo type individually kinda exciting tbh
see, i super enjoy the cenni (with just fmjs, usually) because of its sight picture and the speed of the bullet. they “recently” buffed it’s RoF while ads’d with iron repeater and it’s pretty nice. i dunno, maybe i just like bad guns. the fast fmj medium bullets speak to me lol
@@hornetlul I'm looking forward to that hornet, if it happens lol.
its prolly my most favourite rifle in the game.
wp! :)
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Personally I use levering with the Centennial and I kill with it
Pls more Night and Fog to ruin my eyes
I started to hate centennial when i was doing scale warden questline. The stats on centennial are also good but maybe we arent meant for each other.
it looks like you are hacking, shame on you
I think I have about 5 vetterli kills after about 2k hours. Cannot use it.
No guns ever work for me because I am just bad at the game.
I honestly play better using a melee weapon.
You are not bad bro
@@argonrml3098 I have actual nerve damage, during intense action I rapidly lose the feeling in my hands and arms.
It makes aiming really hard.