This guy is a masterpiece. The movie writer did say he was suppose to be skywarp but it was an animation error. In Japan they consider cyclonus previously skywarp
This is definitely one of my absolute favourite figures I've ever owned. The Robot, Vehicle and Transformation are all spectacular; and the joints/articulation and posing options are well above something of a Voyager. This is a Leader Class in disguise. No pun intended.
@Brandon same here! I'm getting lots of characters for my collection I couldn't get a long time ago as well as the main guys!many of em are little masterpiece figures! I haven't been getting any of mp figures either. Might only get a few of my favorites one day. Yeah, seige and earthrise lines are incredible and great to get a collection going. The only problem I've been having are exclusives! Still haven't been able to get Ratchet as he's been exclusive twice! Hopefully I can get him soon!
Not just a home run, a grand slam! This is totally the best Cyclonus we ever gotten, by far! Even a Masterpiece Cyclonus would not be that much better! Very cool and cartoon accurate! Maybe there's a way to minimize the side panel problem in jet mode, just a matter of studying the area carefully. Awesome review, Paul!
those panels that don't seem to close all the way, it almost seems to me that its just part of the design. idk maybe i'm wrong but i think it gives the alt mode some more definition/sculpt.
They apparently did a bit before the recent theatrical re-release of the movie where when asked by a sweep, Scourge states Cyclonus was a seeker....Also, at a con a few years back, one of the writers stated that he was Skywarp and that was always the intention. Look at the toy brochures, Thundercracker & Skywarp are replaced by Scourge & Cyclonus with the Insecticons still on sale.
"Rrrahhrr that's me!" is how you should start every video after the Optibotimus intro. You know all these years I always thought it was the other way around but you make a good point about the flexing and now I agree Bombshell is Cyclonus, maybe we always knew that to be the truth but always wanted to believe it was Skywarp!
I bought this figure at about 30 dollars on amazon and it came yesterday and now I bought more because this is hands down the best transformer Hasbro has ever done, the engineering is on par with even some third party companies so that in both his robot and alt mode (the space jet) he looks fantastic. I have zero gripes or complaints I could not ask for a better cyclonus.
I always like Cyclonus in the season 3 Transformers he's a great Decepticon character. It would be nice if they made a Masterpiece Cyclonus that'll be worthy of his honor.
Agreed, I was convinced that Cyclonus was Skywarp, even back then. Even so, Bombshell wouldn't even make any sense, even if the Insecticon could mass shift in size, Bombshell wouldn't come close to Cyclonus's size.
Kind of funny that people even thought otherwise. The only argument for it being bombshell was his placement during the scene, in a cartoon well known for its many animation errors. Mixing up character's positions was so common, especially with the seekers lol.
The writer said Skywarp was ment to be Cyclonus, it's on one of the DVDs. It was an animation error. Just like how Thundercracker is at Starscream s coronation.
Ordered one of these recently and can't wait for it. I too also believe his past self was Skywarp and pretty glad a writer from the movie and Hasbro agree.
TBH without a spark, a transformer is dead, and just a metal husk. So I lean towards saying that none of them is anyone. Neither Scourge, Sweeps or Cyclonus. Unicron simply used their dead bodies as materials. We are even confirmed more or less that sparks are the essence of a transformer, if so then they would refer to themselves as their previous selves. Particular BW dives deeper into it. Though sparks can give birth to more sparks it seems. As in BW lineage is established. particular with Blackarachnia being a descendant of Autobots not Decepticons. But I am going too far into it. Safe to say that both Unicron, as well as Vector sigma, have creator ability. If I am correct and none of them is a new version of himself then he has the ability to create sparks.
Wow! This guy cleans up so nicely! What an absolutely incredible figure! I have the old classics one, but I'm definitely gonna have to get this dude too!
who's Cyclonus? Easy, it's Skywarp. Here's why. Point one: Cyclonus is a jet, so is skywarp. How would Cyclonus be so talented at flying if he couldn't fly before his reformation? Point two: Cyconus and Skywarp are both very loyal to their respective leaders. some bombshell people may say that it was a personality change and he is cyclonus, but remember that Megatron and Galvatron have the same personality. Point 3: In the script, yes it does mention that Bombshell is Cyclonus but It has been stated before that that was a mistake in the script and Skywarp was always supposed to be Cyclonus. Over all, I suppose it depends on the piece of Transformers media we're talking about, but generally Cyclonus is, and always will be Skywarp
I mean the footage is obvious. It's Bombshell. and for those who don't notice, the "armada" in the background is NEVER seen again. It was labeled as an animation error. Personally for me it stands to reason that the one in front is the one to become Cyclonus. Side note: Fantastic review as always. I love your work and I always look forward to hearing you talk about Transformers. Keep it up and Happy New Year
The product pic on BBTS has Cyclonus' alt mode as having those same side panels popping out somewhat. Doesn't look bad to me, even proper, but I haven't got him in hand. Yet.
5:10 Yep.. I have seen this in other vids and my Cyclonus I just got has the same issue. Some kind of weird molding issue I guess, because you can force them flush but they won’t stay. It’s an “almost”… so close. But I still love this fig, I never had the original but my friends did, and I managed to get a re-issue many years ago that I still have. Overall, this guy is better… I just wish he wasn’t so… lavendar 😏
I got the same issues with the panels. Transformering him to jet mode was a lot of fun. Definitely glad I got him. I was doubting but the jet mode makes the difference. 👍
I 100% say that skywarp is cyclonus since why would bombshell become cyclonus when the other insecticons became sweeps and cyclonus is unbelievably loyal to galvatron much like skywarp was to megatron and bombshell was not loyal at all
3:32 Translation is that Optimus dies in battle, which is a reference to him dying when he fought Megatron in the '86 movie. his fate is also a reference to the Dead Universe Optimus Prime repaint from last year
I believe no one became anyone in that seen except for Megatron becoming Galvatron. I say Unicron just took parts from the other dead Decepticons and upgraded them and giving them new sparks with no one caharacter becoming another.
My thought as well. Though that gives Unicron the power of creation. But that isn't all that far fetched. Seeing something as small as Vector Sigma being able to create. And everything is made by the Quintessons.
Just got scourge other day at target. Beet a scalper to it lol was so happy. But the scourge is my new favorite and for a shellformer its great. Got cyclonus comming from gamestop in mail.
This guy and SS Scourge will look great next to Kingdom Leader Class Galvatron when he comes out. Can't wait for the Unicron trio (not counting the Sweeps) to be reunited.
I picked him up over the weekend at Target. I have the same issue with those sides that look like they should be tighter. Another reviewer mentioned the same thing so it's probably supposed to be like that. I do love the box art. Very eye catching
I picked this guy up at Walmart about 5 days ago. Couldn't believe he was still there and only $29.99. I snagged him, but does anyone else think the legs look a little too squared-off? Kinda blocky, maybe? Haven't taken him outta the box yet, and see he's going for like $50-$60 on eBay now. Cyclonus is tied as my favorite Decipticon with Soundwave and his minions. I LOVE the Deluxe version, too. Have them both. Anyone else think I'm wrong about the legs?? Great review as always, sir. Thank you!
So we aren’t gonna mention Cyclonus and Scourge being present on Cybertron in the headmasters comic that was set in the 80s. Altho there was a lot of time travel shenanigans going on....
The side panels are crooked due to the pins. Been looking at how to repair that, however would involve removing the pins and making sure that they are properly inserted.
Have this on pre order, so excited for him and the leader class Galvatron.👍 My opinion has always been Cyclonus is Skywarp's body and Bombshell's intelligence, not fact only an opinion.
I think everybody is misunderstanding the golden disk cards. They do not show what happens in kingdom, they show what does not happen in kingdom. Case in point: one card says that the ark crash lands on earth in 1984, but as we know from the earthrise netflix series does not happen. There are also cards that mimic the 86 movie and the beast wars series
I’m commenting this here because it’s the only place I think makes sense. In the Netflix series, I don’t think we’ll get a true answer to who became cyclonus. Skywarp already died in siege, and there’s no insecticons. Maybe if unicron brings skywarp back to life as cyclonus, or if bombshell is introduced and quickly turned into cyclonus. Or if unicron just brings cyclonus into existence, or if he’s an ancient transformer like from some comics. Or just completely unrelated to unicron
I don't see how this was ever a question...you actually SEE Bombshell BECOME Cyclonus in the footage...where's the issue? o_O;; I think that's the model of Cyclonus--the older toy you have--that came in the two-pack with Hot Rod.
Just given the animation errors that abounded in G1 I really don't get too worked up about who "really" was Cyclonus before he was Cyclonus. Skywarp makes a lot more sense to me but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter; what matters is really what makes the most sense for one's head canon. EDIT: didn't mean to imply my personal interpretation is any more valid than anyone else's, sorry if my post came off that way.
@@optibotimus Well there was that unnamed Cyclonus clone we never saw again or was ever mentioned to begin with- that's a huge part of why I consider that whole sequence a bit of an animation error and completely suspect. But it's like what you said, it really doesn't matter at the end of the day. I don't think you're wrong, and honestly I kind of feel like this debate is a little pointless, and while I disagree (or at least my personal head canon doesn't match up with yours) I really think there's room for "both continuities", not that this would really change how the story of G1 unfolds in any substantive way. That said, more in direct response to your question, just look at the role Skywarp played in the Decepticons in earlier seasons- sure he wasn't too "loyal" to Megatron, but he was still in the upper echelon of Decepticons and one of Megatron's more trustworthy lieutenants. The Insecticons were notably self interested even for Decepticons, when they weren't portrayed as little more than Cybertronian beasts. That's why in my head canon I still prefer Skywarp as being who was made into Cyclonus... but like I said, it's just head canon, not actual canon. As noted, it's just a kids' cartoon with a ton of animation and other continuity errors (did the Constructicons create Megatron on Cybertron, or did he have them built on Earth? etc) that we fanboys have been banging our heads on navigating for a few decades now. I think the answer to all this is just not to take it too seriously, and enjoy the toys as you see fit.
I think the problem with the pieces not tabbing in in the alt mode is a problem with all runs of the figure, because other reviewers had the same problem, or maybe its screen accurate, but I doubt that
here it is solved once for all!! you see bombshell and skywarp getting changed into two cyconus' .. but in a later shot when they fly in the ship, there is only one cyclonus and 3 sweeps. bombshell cloned himself right before unicron changed them to try and save himself. the clone got changed into a cyclonus along with skywarp. after the clone fell apart, unicron found bombshell and made him a sweep instead. thus skywarp being the only cyclonus.
Unless it was just a play on the colors, when Optimus and Bumblebee walk through the portal, for a moment Optimus looks like the Shattered glass version of himself. 🤷🏿♂️
Actually I studied this upclose. If you really pay attention & have side by side comparison pictures from the cartoon. Galvatron Has the same face as megatron. They kept it & they did that With Scourge I studied it closely Scourge has thundercrackers Face Face is the same. But Facial Hair. As well Cyclonus He has the same face as Skywarp Rest of the head is different. So they are the seekers. plus in the 86 catalog Insecticons were still selling. & In the decepticon planes Starscream still Sold. & Thundercracker & Skywarp were replaced by Scourge & Cyclonus. I also Have noticed too that . I also noticed too in the fandom Thundercracker & Skywarp Appears in much, much more Story lines & such cross overs & gets more love then Cyclonus & Scourge does. ALso In the Original Comics Cyclonus & Scourge were different characters then from Skywarp & thundercraker. They were part of Scorponoks own group of decepticons.. They were on Nebulos While skywarp & thundercracker was on Earth. But Yes I have studied the faces up close on the seekers in the animation run
You forgot something paul,Thundercracker and skywarp is dynamic duo and cyclones and scourge is also dynamic duo that means................skywarp is cyclones case close yay.
i just got this figure today and after taking it out the box i have noticed that opening the chest to transform it into alt that the chest feels like it's almost super glued shut any tips would be cool
I explained more about it in a previous post but my thought is that none of them is a previous existing transformer. Other than Megatron/Galvatron. To me they are all dead and their bodies are simply recycled.
This guy is a masterpiece. The movie writer did say he was suppose to be skywarp but it was an animation error. In Japan they consider cyclonus previously skywarp
This is definitely one of my absolute favourite figures I've ever owned.
The Robot, Vehicle and Transformation are all spectacular; and the joints/articulation and posing options are well above something of a Voyager.
This is a Leader Class in disguise. No pun intended.
He is the same height as leader Galvatron - (I have them both) great figure :)
I'm still a "Cyclonus is Skywarp" type of guy. Great review as always!
So am I. It just feels right having both of Galvatron’s reformatted servants being the seekers.
And the insecticons became the sweeps and armada
Same here
As soon as I heard "Bombshell" I was like oh no...
Same here, makes way more sense considering how the character acts.
If Takara ever releases a masterpiece cyclonus, you really wouldn’t have to get it when you own this one
@Brandon same here! I'm getting lots of characters for my collection I couldn't get a long time ago as well as the main guys!many of em are little masterpiece figures! I haven't been getting any of mp figures either. Might only get a few of my favorites one day. Yeah, seige and earthrise lines are incredible and great to get a collection going. The only problem I've been having are exclusives! Still haven't been able to get Ratchet as he's been exclusive twice! Hopefully I can get him soon!
@Brandon thanks!
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Not just a home run, a grand slam! This is totally the best Cyclonus we ever gotten, by far! Even a Masterpiece Cyclonus would not be that much better! Very cool and cartoon accurate! Maybe there's a way to minimize the side panel problem in jet mode, just a matter of studying the area carefully. Awesome review, Paul!
Nice throwback intro there! This figure is amazing, such a great upgrade from the last mold, must have.
I like how the hidden beast wars eye is also the final shot of Earthrise
It's the perfect figure, no gaps, no backpack and the rturn of lightpiping
:)
those panels that don't seem to close all the way, it almost seems to me that its just part of the design. idk maybe i'm wrong but i think it gives the alt mode some more definition/sculpt.
*"Cyclonus, the warrior and his armada!"*
''I will rip open Ultra Magnus, and every other Autobot, until the Matrix has been destroyed! TO CYBERTRON!''
hey how did u get the unicron emoji?
@@huntercox8835 correct
They apparently did a bit before the recent theatrical re-release of the movie where when asked by a sweep, Scourge states Cyclonus was a seeker....Also, at a con a few years back, one of the writers stated that he was Skywarp and that was always the intention.
Look at the toy brochures, Thundercracker & Skywarp are replaced by Scourge & Cyclonus with the Insecticons still on sale.
The engineering for cyclonus transformation is astounding!
"Rrrahhrr that's me!" is how you should start every video after the Optibotimus intro. You know all these years I always thought it was the other way around but you make a good point about the flexing and now I agree Bombshell is Cyclonus, maybe we always knew that to be the truth but always wanted to believe it was Skywarp!
Sticker translation reads: DIES IN BATTLE
Are you serious?
@@skintgirafde320 Fully serious Skint. Google "Autobot cybertronian alphabet" and you can check the cipher.
Holy shit! It's true!
OH SNAP!
Hey @Skint, i don't seem to have your address. Email me optibotimus@gmail.com
I bought this figure at about 30 dollars on amazon and it came yesterday and now I bought more because this is hands down the best transformer Hasbro has ever done, the engineering is on par with even some third party companies so that in both his robot and alt mode (the space jet) he looks fantastic. I have zero gripes or complaints I could not ask for a better cyclonus.
I think Cyclonus is a merger of Skywarp and Bombshell. He has his loyalty to Megatron and he has his genius level knowledge.
This makes sense.
I really appreciate how dedicated Hasbro is.
Scourge will have his chance soon.
14:22 It has begun, the day of reckoning is upon us all!!!
Just had this guy arrive in the mail.
One of the very best I’ve had.
Super excited for the studio 86 stuff to turn up.
Very cool!
I really like the way the hands transform
You use them as like built in arm cannons to go with his blaster
I can't wait to get this one. It's pretty lucky that you used that Tic Tac container as a size comparison. I've got the same one on my desk!
Oh my... he looks absolutely amazing! Can't wait to pick him up with Scourge, and I really hope Hasbro releases a Galvatron on par with the two.
I always like Cyclonus in the season 3 Transformers he's a great Decepticon character. It would be nice if they made a Masterpiece Cyclonus that'll be worthy of his honor.
One of the writers of the movie has come forward and settled the argument.. cyclonus was skywarp.
Agreed, I was convinced that Cyclonus was Skywarp, even back then. Even so, Bombshell wouldn't even make any sense, even if the Insecticon could mass shift in size, Bombshell wouldn't come close to Cyclonus's size.
Kind of funny that people even thought otherwise. The only argument for it being bombshell was his placement during the scene, in a cartoon well known for its many animation errors. Mixing up character's positions was so common, especially with the seekers lol.
"Awesome and sleek" indeed the secret files of teletran doesn't lie
I found Cyclonus at my local Target January 2nd here in Longview Texas.
He is so dang expensive now. I just did a surprise buy on Walmart. I was shocked that I got him so cheap.
The writer said Skywarp was ment to be Cyclonus, it's on one of the DVDs. It was an animation error. Just like how Thundercracker is at Starscream s coronation.
Ordered one of these recently and can't wait for it. I too also believe his past self was Skywarp and pretty glad a writer from the movie and Hasbro agree.
I'm pretty sure that the actual writer confirms that SkyWarp became Cyclonus but it was down to an animation error but I could be wrong!
TBH without a spark, a transformer is dead, and just a metal husk. So I lean towards saying that none of them is anyone. Neither Scourge, Sweeps or Cyclonus. Unicron simply used their dead bodies as materials. We are even confirmed more or less that sparks are the essence of a transformer, if so then they would refer to themselves as their previous selves. Particular BW dives deeper into it. Though sparks can give birth to more sparks it seems. As in BW lineage is established. particular with Blackarachnia being a descendant of Autobots not Decepticons. But I am going too far into it. Safe to say that both Unicron, as well as Vector sigma, have creator ability. If I am correct and none of them is a new version of himself then he has the ability to create sparks.
Best Cyclonus released. Scored this last week instore. Love him. One of my fav Decepticons ever.
Wow! This guy cleans up so nicely! What an absolutely incredible figure! I have the old classics one, but I'm definitely gonna have to get this dude too!
He looks soooooo great!
I agree.
I LOVE the light piping!!!💜
Cyclonus is Bomshell, and his Armada is Skywarp. In the original cartoon series in Season 3 they mentioned Cyclonus was bomshell
Flint has said in a interview that skywarp is cyclonus. It was meant to be him all along. Bombshell sucks and really was only loyal to himself imo.
who's Cyclonus? Easy, it's Skywarp. Here's why. Point one: Cyclonus is a jet, so is skywarp. How would Cyclonus be so talented at flying if he couldn't fly before his reformation? Point two: Cyconus and Skywarp are both very loyal to their respective leaders. some bombshell people may say that it was a personality change and he is cyclonus, but remember that Megatron and Galvatron have the same personality. Point 3: In the script, yes it does mention that Bombshell is Cyclonus but It has been stated before that that was a mistake in the script and Skywarp was always supposed to be Cyclonus. Over all, I suppose it depends on the piece of Transformers media we're talking about, but generally Cyclonus is, and always will be Skywarp
I got mine on the way thanks to a good friend!!! Great review!
He's probably an asshole :p
@@optibotimus I heard he is a pretty cool asshole 😂🤣
@@EmmaRose85 I heard that to 🤣
@@livingphoenix1 Someone we know?
Cyclonus, the Warrior and his ... Coca -Cola Tic-Tac container. Thumbs Up!
I mean the footage is obvious. It's Bombshell. and for those who don't notice, the "armada" in the background is NEVER seen again. It was labeled as an animation error. Personally for me it stands to reason that the one in front is the one to become Cyclonus.
Side note: Fantastic review as always. I love your work and I always look forward to hearing you talk about Transformers. Keep it up and Happy New Year
Who you think Become Cyclonus???
👍 For Bombshell
Comment For Skywarp
The product pic on BBTS has Cyclonus' alt mode as having those same side panels popping out somewhat. Doesn't look bad to me, even proper, but I haven't got him in hand. Yet.
5:10 Yep.. I have seen this in other vids and my Cyclonus I just got has the same issue. Some kind of weird molding issue I guess, because you can force them flush but they won’t stay. It’s an “almost”… so close. But I still love this fig, I never had the original but my friends did, and I managed to get a re-issue many years ago that I still have. Overall, this guy is better… I just wish he wasn’t so… lavendar 😏
I got the same issues with the panels. Transformering him to jet mode was a lot of fun. Definitely glad I got him. I was doubting but the jet mode makes the difference. 👍
I 100% say that skywarp is cyclonus since why would bombshell become cyclonus when the other insecticons became sweeps and cyclonus is unbelievably loyal to galvatron much like skywarp was to megatron and bombshell was not loyal at all
3:32 Translation is that Optimus dies in battle, which is a reference to him dying when he fought Megatron in the '86 movie. his fate is also a reference to the Dead Universe Optimus Prime repaint from last year
I believe no one became anyone in that seen except for Megatron becoming Galvatron. I say Unicron just took parts from the other dead Decepticons and upgraded them and giving them new sparks with no one caharacter becoming another.
My thought as well. Though that gives Unicron the power of creation. But that isn't all that far fetched. Seeing something as small as Vector Sigma being able to create. And everything is made by the Quintessons.
The plastic on this guy feels like he came from the 2006 Classics line. Great Great TF.
I think those panels are raised on purpose. Look at back of box and artwork on side. The panels are raised out
I agree. The cartoon shows two "air intakes" (or whatever they are) on each side as well. I think this was intentional.
You can try to use a hairdryer in hot temperature in order to warp al little bit the gaps in the Jet Mode and have it flush 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
And these figures are mini masterpieces for sure
Just got scourge other day at target. Beet a scalper to it lol was so happy. But the scourge is my new favorite and for a shellformer its great. Got cyclonus comming from gamestop in mail.
It was Skywarp, dude! In Season 3 there was an episode where he regained his ability to teleport!
This guy and SS Scourge will look great next to Kingdom Leader Class Galvatron when he comes out. Can't wait for the Unicron trio (not counting the Sweeps) to be reunited.
I love the engineering of collapsing the nose cone
I picked him up over the weekend at Target. I have the same issue with those sides that look like they should be tighter. Another reviewer mentioned the same thing so it's probably supposed to be like that. I do love the box art. Very eye catching
I picked this guy up at Walmart about 5 days ago. Couldn't believe he was still there and only $29.99. I snagged him, but does anyone else think the legs look a little too squared-off? Kinda blocky, maybe? Haven't taken him outta the box yet, and see he's going for like $50-$60 on eBay now. Cyclonus is tied as my favorite Decipticon with Soundwave and his minions. I LOVE the Deluxe version, too. Have them both. Anyone else think I'm wrong about the legs??
Great review as always, sir. Thank you!
that deluxe is a classic, but daaaang that new voyager looks amazing
Bombshell...Ha. Cool video as usual, Op
Plot twist: Cyclones is neither Bombshell nor Skywarp! I mean, G1 repeated made new characters without introductions.
So we aren’t gonna mention Cyclonus and Scourge being present on Cybertron in the headmasters comic that was set in the 80s. Altho there was a lot of time travel shenanigans going on....
Hasbro already confirmed that Cyclonus is indeed Skywarp!
The side panels are crooked due to the pins. Been looking at how to repair that, however would involve removing the pins and making sure that they are properly inserted.
Cool, can't wait to get kingdom Galvatron as well.
Love the movie accuracy on this figure! Great review as always👍
You said the plastic was WARPED near the cockpit? He's confirmed it here folks. Cyclonus was in fact Skywarp.
He looks wonderful!!! I want him!!!
He's Bombshell...period. Changed in the foreground. IN FRONT. SERIOUSLY...he really did. Bombshell. Wishing for something doesn't make it so.
Skywarp was reformatted into Cyclonus idc
Okay
Bob Budiansky already confirmed that Skywarp is Cyclonus
Have this on pre order, so excited for him and the leader class Galvatron.👍 My opinion has always been Cyclonus is Skywarp's body and Bombshell's intelligence, not fact only an opinion.
The Universe version has finally been dethroned.
I think everybody is misunderstanding the golden disk cards. They do not show what happens in kingdom, they show what does not happen in kingdom. Case in point: one card says that the ark crash lands on earth in 1984, but as we know from the earthrise netflix series does not happen. There are also cards that mimic the 86 movie and the beast wars series
How do you know that what they're showing doesn't happen in kingdom? That show isn't out yet
Ah the Bombshell/Skywarp debate. I just like to think that they were both merged and made into Cyclonus.
He is skywarp!
Just because you say he is, doesn't make it so
@@optibotimus no I don't mean it in literal sense i just like to call him skywarp.
In regard to the size difference- Bombshell+Skywarp would probably equate to the necessary mass
The perfect Transformer does exist!
I’m commenting this here because it’s the only place I think makes sense. In the Netflix series, I don’t think we’ll get a true answer to who became cyclonus. Skywarp already died in siege, and there’s no insecticons. Maybe if unicron brings skywarp back to life as cyclonus, or if bombshell is introduced and quickly turned into cyclonus. Or if unicron just brings cyclonus into existence, or if he’s an ancient transformer like from some comics. Or just completely unrelated to unicron
I don't see how this was ever a question...you actually SEE Bombshell BECOME Cyclonus in the footage...where's the issue? o_O;;
I think that's the model of Cyclonus--the older toy you have--that came in the two-pack with Hot Rod.
the bombshell skywarp thing gets even more cofusing when bombshell shows up on earth again in G2 series
Their was still a lot of insectons clones left around after the movie
Just given the animation errors that abounded in G1 I really don't get too worked up about who "really" was Cyclonus before he was Cyclonus. Skywarp makes a lot more sense to me but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter; what matters is really what makes the most sense for one's head canon.
EDIT: didn't mean to imply my personal interpretation is any more valid than anyone else's, sorry if my post came off that way.
Why does he make a "lot" more sense when i feel that i presented fairly irrefutable evidence from the actual scene to show what i believe
@@optibotimus Well there was that unnamed Cyclonus clone we never saw again or was ever mentioned to begin with- that's a huge part of why I consider that whole sequence a bit of an animation error and completely suspect. But it's like what you said, it really doesn't matter at the end of the day.
I don't think you're wrong, and honestly I kind of feel like this debate is a little pointless, and while I disagree (or at least my personal head canon doesn't match up with yours) I really think there's room for "both continuities", not that this would really change how the story of G1 unfolds in any substantive way.
That said, more in direct response to your question, just look at the role Skywarp played in the Decepticons in earlier seasons- sure he wasn't too "loyal" to Megatron, but he was still in the upper echelon of Decepticons and one of Megatron's more trustworthy lieutenants. The Insecticons were notably self interested even for Decepticons, when they weren't portrayed as little more than Cybertronian beasts. That's why in my head canon I still prefer Skywarp as being who was made into Cyclonus... but like I said, it's just head canon, not actual canon.
As noted, it's just a kids' cartoon with a ton of animation and other continuity errors (did the Constructicons create Megatron on Cybertron, or did he have them built on Earth? etc) that we fanboys have been banging our heads on navigating for a few decades now. I think the answer to all this is just not to take it too seriously, and enjoy the toys as you see fit.
@@Canoby animation errors abound so your point is very valid
The collector cards are alternate destinies that won't happen. Not really spoilers.
Dead Optimus is Optimus's true altmode
Solid review Paul.
Well, now we all now that this is actually a Bombshell review (if you were at the last livestream you’ll know why)
I think the problem with the pieces not tabbing in in the alt mode is a problem with all runs of the figure, because other reviewers had the same problem, or maybe its screen accurate, but I doubt that
here it is solved once for all!! you see bombshell and skywarp getting changed into two cyconus' .. but in a later shot when they fly in the ship, there is only one cyclonus and 3 sweeps.
bombshell cloned himself right before unicron changed them to try and save himself. the clone got changed into a cyclonus along with skywarp. after the clone fell apart, unicron found bombshell and made him a sweep instead. thus skywarp being the only cyclonus.
Unless it was just a play on the colors, when Optimus and Bumblebee walk through the portal, for a moment Optimus looks like the Shattered glass version of himself. 🤷🏿♂️
Glad to have this guy coming in soon
Great Review on Cyclonus I Can’t Wait to get my Soon And For me Cyclonus Is Skywarp and Scourge Is Thundercracker
Such a beautiful figure...
Bombshell was a bit of leader to the Incecticons, Thundercracker was more of the loyal follower. Your theory makes a heck of a lot of sense.
Actually I studied this upclose. If you really pay attention & have side by side comparison pictures from the cartoon. Galvatron Has the same face as megatron. They kept it & they did that With Scourge I studied it closely Scourge has thundercrackers Face Face is the same. But Facial Hair. As well Cyclonus He has the same face as Skywarp Rest of the head is different. So they are the seekers. plus in the 86 catalog Insecticons were still selling. & In the decepticon planes Starscream still Sold. & Thundercracker & Skywarp were replaced by Scourge & Cyclonus. I also Have noticed too that . I also noticed too in the fandom Thundercracker & Skywarp Appears in much, much more Story lines & such cross overs & gets more love then Cyclonus & Scourge does. ALso In the Original Comics Cyclonus & Scourge were different characters then from Skywarp & thundercraker. They were part of Scorponoks own group of decepticons.. They were on Nebulos While skywarp & thundercracker was on Earth. But Yes I have studied the faces up close on the seekers in the animation run
You forgot something paul,Thundercracker and skywarp is dynamic duo and cyclones and scourge is also dynamic duo that means................skywarp is cyclones case close yay.
I love this figure and yea I believe you bombshell had to be the one who became Cyclonus: The Warrior amazing review Paul, hope you find SS86 Kup
Fingers crossed!
He's reformatted version of skywarp
Be it skywarp or bombshell. Cyclonus is cyclonus and thats all.
Oh how I used to draw these guys when I was a kid
i just got this figure today and after taking it out the box i have noticed that opening the chest to transform it into alt that the chest feels like it's almost super glued shut any tips would be cool
If the 86 movie did a remastered remake to the animation error the duplicate shouldn’t disappear again
I still say it’s supposed to be skywarp
I don't think he is Skywarp but I like Skywarp so I hope he is skywarp
I explained more about it in a previous post but my thought is that none of them is a previous existing transformer. Other than Megatron/Galvatron. To me they are all dead and their bodies are simply recycled.
In Japan he is considered reformatted skywarp