0:30 Roth, you keep fighting the good fight for Paddington. Both the first and second are among the best family movies I've ever seen. (Not "kid's" movies, but "family". EVERYONE can enjoy Paddington!!)
"These talking pictures will never catch on" - I mean, I agree about VR and AR for the most part, but don't count it out as a story telling medium yet.
A solo Black Widow movie? Nah. A origin story? Nah. A Black Widow lead movie where she glues into action a group of street level heroes that haven't met yet? Sure! For example a Mission Impossible with Black Widow + Ant Man + Daredevil + Quake as a prequel to Secret Wars would be nice.
if they had announced a black widow movie a couple years ago i would have been very excited, but by now i've pretty much lost all interest. i dunno, i feel like we've maybe spent too much time with the original mcu avengers by now. i'm much more interested in the newer characters. the one thing that could get me on board with a black widow movie is if marvel hired a female director. that'd be really cool.
famously, patty jenkins went to marvel before she went to dc. she wanted to make thor: the dark world. kevin feige didn't like her ideas and sent her away. marvel has a man/woman team directing captain marvel, but there's still no sign of any female directors working solo in the mcu.
+Mie R i liked thor 2 well enough, but a lot of people seem to think it was a really weak entry for the mcu. we can't say though whether jenkins's approach would have worked better. i trust kevin feige not to make terrible movies, unlike some comic book studios. however, that doesn't mean that every decision he makes is the best one.
David Hayter who wrote X2 and also played Solid Snake wrote a screenplay for a Black Widow movie ages ago, so I can't detach the Metal Gear Solid aspect out of my brain when talking about this movie. I just see Scarlett Johansson like crawling in a blizzard and speaking to Nick Fury over codec in a gravelly voice and I WANT IT
So Gambit isn't interesting enough for a movie, but Black Widow is? We've seen everything we need to know about her story, used to be bad, now is good. Scarjo won't be able to carry the movie, I'd be more interested in a Scarlett Witch or Valkyrie movie than Black Widow.
With regards to Movie Pass and I, Tonya...they aren't just advertising for it. I went to see I, Tonya using Movie Pass and they sent me a marketing survey afterwards. Mostly the usual questions you would expect...what influenced your decision to see this film, what advertising did you see for it, what other movies have you seen. I wouldn't ordinarily fill a form like that out, but I'm all for helping Movie Pass build a sustainable business model, at this point. So, I sent it back.
I love the idea of the Black Window movie FINALLY coming together. Scarlett Johansson is awesome and she made Black Widow such an outstanding character. If this gives some women in the industry the chance to make a big (and good) blockbuster movie - then I am SO excited :)
I'm beyond happy and excited for a Black Widow solo movie! Black Widow is my second favorite MCU character only behind Iron Man. I've been hoping for her to get my own movie since the first Avengers. Now it's happening. So cool.
Movie pass sounds brilliant. We’ve had subscriptions like that in the UK for a long time. I currently pay £16 per month for my cinema pass and a single ticket for a film is around £8-10. If you see movies often these subscriptions are a brilliant idea
A funny story about a friend I knew with a 3D tv.... We were having a Rocky Horror cast party at someone's house because they had a new 60 inch 4k 3D TV that he paid thousands for. A lot of people were late so we just started the movie and what people were there immediately commented on terrible soap opera motion blur, and it's overall poor picture. He got upset, told us how expensive and impressive it is, assured us that Avatar looks amazing on it (I guess at the expense of an average movie looking like shit). But none of us were convinced that the TV was worth his money and we all thought he was a fool for going 3D. As people started to arrive, every single person said something about how bad the TV was. "Why does it look like a British show?" "What's wrong with your TV?" "I thought you had a brand new TV?" and the best comment of them all.... "Oh, are we watching a version downloaded from RUclips or something?" I realize that non-3D 4k TVs generally also look terrible when watching movies, but the mention of a 3D tv reminded me of this. Soooooooooooooo glad I was able to find a TV that can actually look like a movie. 4K motion blur is snake oil.
Re VR - Agree w Billy, think it'll be D-Box style select experiences and theme parks, AR mostly. You'll wear a big lightweight transparent welding mask, and scene elements will creep over the ceiling and into the theatre, simple & select dimensional effects. At least until Disney builds a VR theatre and sends us all into space. That'll be rad!
Henry Ford said something like, If I gave people what they wanted, I'd have made a faster horse. Every industry has to think beyond what people are asking for, or they'll stagnate.
A Black Widow and Hawkeye team up spy movie, mission impossible meets John Wick. That would be awesome. Black Widow Lead with Hawkeye as the the side character.
I think VR could be alright in certain movies if it's just used for parts of the movie. Kinda how 3D has certain parts of the movie especially tailored for 3D that jump out of the screen, perhaps a movie could be for the most part still directed perhaps with limited range of movement (so not 360degrees perhaps but with an ability to expand your field of vision to 'wider screen' when you move your head) and then have full VR scenes tailor made throughout. It would still be very niche though but could lead to some interesting movies finding clever ways to use the tech.
The gimmick l wanna see a theater do is have the single strictest cell phone and talk policy possible, if someone uses their phone get em out of there.
Gambit is a pretty interesting character it’s just not many people know it because Gambit hasn’t been used in X-Men comics that much anymore but he does have an interesting connection with Mr.Sinister and Gambit is a pretty powerful Mutant
Hi guys, Gonna take a few minutes to THANK YOU for all the work you put on your videos, from news to humor, is a good way to keep you inform and to laugh especially when you have a low day or a low week. I've watched your videos for a couple of years and most of the times I dont leave coments but after hearing you talk about all the negative vibes that you get from youtube I wanted to put a little bit of positive energy here. That's all, hope you read this. Happy new year.
I think, what could be a decent storyline too for a black widow movie if not for an origin. is one that has to deal with the aftermath of some of the potential deaths of the avengers after infinity war and how it affects her and SHIELD organization, and what she has to do to save the world without powers or help. idk, could show some depth for that character as well.
Dan Murrell , good points about MoviePass (tm), though I haven't received the same emails. Hopefully these kinds of promotional deals will keep them afloat. But we all know it is the data mining their main investor is really interested in.
I'm not specially excited about VR, but that could change with content. When TVs first showed up, they offered something different. Color TVs also represented a huge leap. But 3D just doesn't improve the experience a lot. 15min into the movie you already forgot about it and they have to throw stuff at your face to remind you why you paid extra. I think it's the same with VR right now. It needs to change a lot, but most importantly, it needs to find its place. Where can it be used best.
Do it. Winter Soldier is at the top of my ranking. I love spy action. Assassins. Agents. All the armed and unarmed combat. Spy technology. Make the combat and acrobatics and spy stunts jaw dropping.
Great show. I had always assumed long term movie pass was trying to become like clearinghouse of unsold seats for movie tickets. With the idea theaters can make some money on mostly empty weekday showings.
People have literally been touting VR as the next big thing since the late '80s. Every time they roll it out, the public has rejected it as costly and uncomfortable. The problem with a VR "movie" is that the filmmaking is supposed to direct you towards the plot relevant action. If you can look around at the irrelevant stuff in the scene, you are going to miss the good bits. It would only really useful in an open world video game.
I would preffer a duo/movie with her and Hawkeye, both characters work together so well and both deserve a good story. And it could be a very cool spy/thriller/action movie.
I'm not saying I don't want this movie, I love Black Widow. I just think it would be a little bit more cool to have both characters leading their own movie.
I still haven't gotten any ads from MoviePass. Then again, if they can track my movie watching habits, and learn my preferences kinda like Netflix does, then I might be totally on board with them giving me ads. I mean, is it really an ad if they're coaxing me to go see a free product?
I'm not interested in a Black Widow film, but understand that there are those who might be interested. I don't know that a Black Widow film will be of interest to the masses. I've seen Johansson in several films, apart from Marvel, and haven't been that impresses with her. If they had done a stand alone film for her a few years back, I might have different feelings about it. I think they will be going backward by doing a Black Widow film now. And again, I'm not impressed with her acting and her carrying a film. Black Widow fits in well with an ensemble.. If she needs to be propped up with Captain American or others in her first solo venture, what's the point.
I have an idea of making Black widow movie more interesting and potentially being a box-office hit, but this is just my opinion on what they should do with the movie if they do decide to make it. Here it is: BLACK WIDOW: CODE RED The universe was pulled from the brink of ultimate defeat post Avengers 4, but on Earth Natasha Romanov is still a wanted woman. They could also add Thaddeus Ross and his UN task force to have a new target: his old obsession Bruce Banner, which also adds to the Hulk story arc too, since Hulk can't have his own movie, and also expand on the Hulk-Black Widow relationship which we've seen in the first two avengers movie. You can have Black Widow, the Hulk, and Nick Fury fending for their lives in the jungles of South America, and discover what the Red Protocol is. VILLAINS introduced could be RED HULK (a very popular HULK villain in the comics), THE LEADER (maybe the main villain), and either TASKMASTER or YELENA BOLOVA (BLACK WIDOW vs TASKMASTER would be dope as fuck and a good way to introduce him into MCU, but YELENA BOLOVA vs BLACK WIDOW would be awesome as well since she is a classic adversary of black widow). Add some hawkeye, bucky in the movie to really flesh out the character of Black Widow by exploring their shared pasts together with the Red Room and really explain what happened in Budapest. Heck, maybe throw in Wolverine too, but not really necessary.
Black Widow ascending to leadership of the Avengers and leading the Earth based heroes to the cosmic and Dr Strange's multiverse will be interesting. She will be our conduit -- a normal human being discovering the craziness of space travel and magic
I think VR will be aimed at TV shows with one/two locations, like the sitcoms or maybe documentaries where there is no need for a narrative. Don't think they're aiming at movies. If you read the comic Saga you will find the source for this. Live, choreographed theater.
I agree with Dan, I never found Gambit to be that interesting of a character, and was never excited for a solo Gambit movie. He only works well when playing off other X-men characters, and just has a very 90's cool-but-superficial persona. Like Deadpool without the humor or 4th wall breaking.
I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS BLACK WIDOW MOVIE! I would hope, given it will be after IF and most likely Avengers 4 it will be a prequel...hopefully we'll get to see some Red Room or maybe even BUDAPEST WITH HAWKEYE! FYI taking it back in time will be just like this upcoming Captain Marvel movie which will be set in the 90s with Nick Fury. Both of these movies, although after IF will be great to add to the narrative of the overarching story of the MCU. I trust Marvel. They know what they're doing.
Almost every time I see Joe and Danielle in the same video I comment asking for a Joe v. Danielle movie fight... I can't believe it's actually happening! My dog and I are actually going to watch live this time, usually I just watch afterwards but I have the day off work today. . . it's fate.
But if Movie Pass is advertising a specific movie for their users to go see, they are still paying for the ticket to that movie... So that still makes it seem part of the data collection strategy, which doesn’t seem sustainable.
Wish they made mini-series for Netflix instead, Daredevil or The Punisher style. If they are gonna go with a movie, they should go for a Winter Soldier style spy movie
I agree with Billy. Black Widow works best in a group. Also with the failure of Ghost in the Shell it's pretty clear Johansson is not a headliner. I am way more interested in Captain Marvel and Valkyrie. I love spy movies but I don't need a black widow movie.
If they get a great writer, director and supporting cast then it might work. The problem is Atomic Blonde, Proud Mary, and Red Sparrow are like Non-Marvel Black Widow movies anyways. What would be cool is if they made an A-Force movie instead featuring Black Widow, Valkyrie, Captain Marvel, Wasp possibly Gamora, Nebula and maybe even She-Hulk.
Black Widow movie would be great especially of exploring more of her back story. I think they should add in Hawkeye in it because he needs more spot light in the MCU.
It should be a Black Widow and Hawkeye movie that shows the origin story of both characters and then goes into a Budapest storyline. Please do this marvel!!!!!!!
I don't really think we really need a black widow movie anymore she's a very well rounded character and we've seen a lot of her and know a lot of her it's a bit unnesary to so if the movie is only average or slightly above average there're so many character they could spin off and develops instead but hey theres nothing with it
But there's people out there really want to know more of her's back story though. I do believe a origin story of Black Widow would work on the big screen.
yeah i agree with shellyman. I don't think there's much to do with Black Widow in the present day, but her origin (russian spy stuff) is definitely something that would be interesting to watch.
I agree that we don't 'need' a Black Widow movie. But I do hope they do it, and they knock it out of the park like Wonder Woman did surprising all of you naysayers and reaffirming the genius that is the MCU
When Roth asked if Dan was okay and why he was holding his arm, I got scared for a second that Dan might be having a heart attack ... even though I’ve already watched Movie Fights. Spoiler alert: Dan lives.
I've been calling for a Black Widow movie since Winter Soldier so any news on it moving forward is good news. I hope it isn't undermined by Atomic Blonde, Red Sparrow & John Wick making it feel too familiar. I also want a Gambit movie but it shouldn't be ABOUT Gambit, you can't explain cool, just make it like a classic western where a stranger rolls into town.
I would have wanted a Black Widow and Hawkeye movie back when they introduced the throw away line about Budapest in the first Avengers movie. That was..what? Five or six years ago now? Maybe more? I wanted to know what happened to them and then before that how they met. That would have been a great movie back then. However, there's no story there. One would have to be invented. It's like "The Kessel Run" for Han Solo in the Star Wars franchise. That was just a throw away line. There never were plans to tell that story, but now all Han Solo fans want to see that. And we're about to, and it's gonna suck. The sad truth is too much time has elapsed. You can't go back in time and tell the story of Budapest. Johanssen and Renner are too old to play their young counterparts, and if you recast no one will care. It's gotta be Johanssen and Renner, or there's no point in going back. We also know both of the characters have since moved on. Perhaps when they first met sparks flew and they fell in love but now Clint Barton's happily married. Natasha has a thing for Banner. It'd just be really weird now if we went back in time to tell that story. So instead, a Black Widow movie would have to be about where she is now in the middle of the MCU, and I just don't see how that's remotely interesting unless you team her up with the other characters. I want to see her in Black Panther. She'd be fun in the next Doctor Strange film. Like The Hulk, Black Widow is more powerful as a foil for other big brand names in the MCU franchise. She started in the comics as a one off villain. I don't recall her ever having a successful solo comic book title. My favorite stuff growing up reading about her in the comics was her teaming up with Daredevil or Spider-Man. it's a shame Charlie Cox can't be moved from Netflix to the big screen, and Johanssen would never slum it in the tv series. but I bet those two actors would chew up scenery well together. Since then, Agent Carter happened. And especially during season two, anything I needed from a Black Widow movie I got from the Agent Carter tv series. I would have wished they'd continued with Agent Carter cuz it was as if that series had been written especially for me. It failed cuz it was a little geeky and tongue in cheek and weird. Most people were not going to get it. And if they'd done a Black Widow film instead of the Agent Carter tv series I'm concerned that the film woulda been less fun and more dark and I think everything worked out well. I'm good. Yeah five years ago I was pissed off when it looked like the Black Widow movie was gonna fall through but you know what? I'm good. For me it worked out great. I'm even happy with where Agents of SHIELD is going overall. I've had my criticisms over the years with how this tranwreck of a franchise has been barrelling down its tracks but looking back it's been a hell of a ride. After Infinity War, I'm concerned that the use of the Infinity Gauntlet in the story line might tempt Feige to reboot the MCU, so who knows what a Black Widow movie will even look like now. If it turns out to be fun that's okay, but if it falls through, I'm not gonna lose any sleep.
Did they talk about the New Mutants movie being pushed till feb 2019 in another video?I am so curious to see what they have to say about that. It´s a whole year it´s been pushed back, and we have a trailer for it already, or a teaser, but still. We don´t have that for Solo and that´s coming out in a few months. And also now Deadpool 2 has been moved up to a before Solo release date! Cray cray!
Well, it's not always about a need to explore more, but whether people would like that, whether it'd be successful and they have the right people for it. But, yeah, them being a woman shouldn't be THE reason to not do it. If anything, ScarJo has proven successful enough, the Russos good enough with the spy/espionage genre and Black Widow established enough there's more reason to do it. Also, I agree with Spencer - having some hot food in theater's lovely. We don't have that where I am.
actually instead of an origin story for black widow i'd b more interested to watch a movie about how c's handling her adjustment to her role in the world now, after 'winter soldier' when all her background is on the internet, when everyone knows who c is on sight. the adjustment from superspy that sheds identities like snake skin and infiltrates and presents a different image according to what's required in the situation to very visible superhero must have been jarring to say the least...as well as the change in mission profiles, esp after shield's collapse.from an agent that follows orders and works to the shadows to a public figure that has to operate in the spotlight and has to be responsible themselves for what 'mission' they choose to follow... and then the tables flip again after civil war. what even IS her 'job' right now? what does c identify herself as? now that i would find interesting...
I think for the point of her story, a Black Widow movie is to little to late to come out now that the masses are getting to a point of superhero fatigue. Even if its a grounded down to earth spy movie, it holding a "superhero" name will put a lot of people off of it. This movie if it were to come out, should have come out along with Winter soldier, (as a minimovie or TV show that came out alongside it). If having a female superhero movie is such a big deal theyll only make one, there are so many others I would rather see then black widow...
Black Widow is probably not gonna cost that much like the other marvel movies. Im guessing from 80 to a 100 million ? And would gross upto a 100 or 300 million. If so? In terms of numbers still wont be a flop
I feel like Black Widow has missed it's window for a solo movie. Should have happened after the first Avengers movie. Could have been the new Spy franchise now Bond is played out.
What if this Black Widow script is actually that female avengers team-up that the women in marvel pitched to feige? It could feature a female team like Thor did the revengers
I don't think VR will even touch the theater market. Where you will see change will be in live stream casting, real estate, sadly enough porn will take a huge chunk and maybe even VR dating. Theater experience isn't really even a viable avenue, people go to see movies and that's it. Nobody wants to take the time to stand in line and give their car keys or id's to check out a headset. And would have to include a trained employee(s) to give a 15 min walk thru including a is your seat belt on like on a theme park ride? And imagine the price. And you would need a viable amount of time given for the viewer to look around and if there's nothing to look at or even interact with then it's a total waste. Personally I think VR is a very private experience. That way you can fall face first into your TV for whatever reason or stare at a womans or man's armpit without having someone say wtf are you looking at situation. In my experience so far I've really enjoyed the live stream aspect. I've stood in a 360° haunted insane asylum (which I'll get into in a hot second), I've really enjoyed anything RedBull extreme has done and actually think that is one avenue that RedBull may corner. Everythjng from anything caught while helmet camd. Snowboarding, race drifting, air rally races you name it. Now in regards to the 360° ghost hunters experience, I just love me some of that and then seconds of some of that, then some more. What really trips me out and especially with the rewatchable aspect is just the nuts and bolts of that whole 360° basic concept. I can't seem to get my mind around how this crap works and is stored. I mean I'm able to login to this person's stream after their done and have gone to bed and I'm able to look anywhere as far as the camera can see. Isn't that a huge chunk of storage? Or am I just trippin? Lol
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0:30 Roth, you keep fighting the good fight for Paddington. Both the first and second are among the best family movies I've ever seen. (Not "kid's" movies, but "family". EVERYONE can enjoy Paddington!!)
Roth, you have convinced me! I have resolved to watch both Paddington films!
She should mention it in every episode of SJU until everybody decides to see it
Can't wait for movie fights!!!!!!!!!!!! I think Joe is in some serious trouble.
Oh Dan, how I 💗 you.
Omg I didn’t realize I needed a Valkyrie solo movie until just now, thanks man 🙏
Jamie Foxx's real name is Eric Bishop.
"These talking pictures will never catch on" - I mean, I agree about VR and AR for the most part, but don't count it out as a story telling medium yet.
A solo Black Widow movie? Nah. A origin story? Nah. A Black Widow lead movie where she glues into action a group of street level heroes that haven't met yet? Sure! For example a Mission Impossible with Black Widow + Ant Man + Daredevil + Quake as a prequel to Secret Wars would be nice.
if they had announced a black widow movie a couple years ago i would have been very excited, but by now i've pretty much lost all interest. i dunno, i feel like we've maybe spent too much time with the original mcu avengers by now. i'm much more interested in the newer characters. the one thing that could get me on board with a black widow movie is if marvel hired a female director. that'd be really cool.
famously, patty jenkins went to marvel before she went to dc. she wanted to make thor: the dark world. kevin feige didn't like her ideas and sent her away. marvel has a man/woman team directing captain marvel, but there's still no sign of any female directors working solo in the mcu.
+Mie R
i liked thor 2 well enough, but a lot of people seem to think it was a really weak entry for the mcu. we can't say though whether jenkins's approach would have worked better.
i trust kevin feige not to make terrible movies, unlike some comic book studios. however, that doesn't mean that every decision he makes is the best one.
sirmoonslosthismind Having Dark World focus on the Thor/Jane romance instead of the Aether would've fucked with Fiege's grand narrative.
Just use the Waid/Samnee Widow run as inspiration. It's great!
The Tarantino scene I would want to see in VR is the Crazy 88 fight.
David Hayter who wrote X2 and also played Solid Snake wrote a screenplay for a Black Widow movie ages ago, so I can't detach the Metal Gear Solid aspect out of my brain when talking about this movie. I just see Scarlett Johansson like crawling in a blizzard and speaking to Nick Fury over codec in a gravelly voice and I WANT IT
So Gambit isn't interesting enough for a movie, but Black Widow is? We've seen everything we need to know about her story, used to be bad, now is good. Scarjo won't be able to carry the movie, I'd be more interested in a Scarlett Witch or Valkyrie movie than Black Widow.
With regards to Movie Pass and I, Tonya...they aren't just advertising for it. I went to see I, Tonya using Movie Pass and they sent me a marketing survey afterwards. Mostly the usual questions you would expect...what influenced your decision to see this film, what advertising did you see for it, what other movies have you seen. I wouldn't ordinarily fill a form like that out, but I'm all for helping Movie Pass build a sustainable business model, at this point. So, I sent it back.
I love the idea of the Black Window movie FINALLY coming together. Scarlett Johansson is awesome and she made Black Widow such an outstanding character. If this gives some women in the industry the chance to make a big (and good) blockbuster movie - then I am SO excited :)
Scarlett Johansson was honestly not the best choice for the role.
+Juan Alvarez (Codename) Who would you have in mind?
luq7 Emily Blunt. Though Blunt did turn down the role, she would have been a better Widow.
+Juan Alvarez (Codename) Yeah , why not. But I am good the way it is. Marvel and DC both nail casting pretty much every time :)
luq7 I hope captain marvel and black widow be good friends in avengers 4
black widow solo movie would be pretty cool in the netflix universe. teams up with punisher or something.
Great panel! I really enjoyed hearing from everyone.
A home VR theater would save a ton of space... Imagine a VR program that is just like a local theater where you sit down and watch films.
Dirty Aunt Roth is my spirit animal
I'm beyond happy and excited for a Black Widow solo movie! Black Widow is my second favorite MCU character only behind Iron Man. I've been hoping for her to get my own movie since the first Avengers. Now it's happening. So cool.
There's some interesting things about Gambit's background... the thieves guild and their rivalry with the assassins...
Movie pass sounds brilliant. We’ve had subscriptions like that in the UK for a long time. I currently pay £16 per month for my cinema pass and a single ticket for a film is around £8-10. If you see movies often these subscriptions are a brilliant idea
A funny story about a friend I knew with a 3D tv....
We were having a Rocky Horror cast party at someone's house because they had a new 60 inch 4k 3D TV that he paid thousands for. A lot of people were late so we just started the movie and what people were there immediately commented on terrible soap opera motion blur, and it's overall poor picture. He got upset, told us how expensive and impressive it is, assured us that Avatar looks amazing on it (I guess at the expense of an average movie looking like shit). But none of us were convinced that the TV was worth his money and we all thought he was a fool for going 3D.
As people started to arrive, every single person said something about how bad the TV was.
"Why does it look like a British show?"
"What's wrong with your TV?"
"I thought you had a brand new TV?"
and the best comment of them all....
"Oh, are we watching a version downloaded from RUclips or something?"
I realize that non-3D 4k TVs generally also look terrible when watching movies, but the mention of a 3D tv reminded me of this. Soooooooooooooo glad I was able to find a TV that can actually look like a movie. 4K motion blur is snake oil.
Re VR - Agree w Billy, think it'll be D-Box style select experiences and theme parks, AR mostly. You'll wear a big lightweight transparent welding mask, and scene elements will creep over the ceiling and into the theatre, simple & select dimensional effects. At least until Disney builds a VR theatre and sends us all into space. That'll be rad!
Henry Ford said something like, If I gave people what they wanted, I'd have made a faster horse. Every industry has to think beyond what people are asking for, or they'll stagnate.
A Black Widow and Hawkeye team up spy movie, mission impossible meets John Wick. That would be awesome. Black Widow Lead with Hawkeye as the the side character.
I think VR could be alright in certain movies if it's just used for parts of the movie. Kinda how 3D has certain parts of the movie especially tailored for 3D that jump out of the screen, perhaps a movie could be for the most part still directed perhaps with limited range of movement (so not 360degrees perhaps but with an ability to expand your field of vision to 'wider screen' when you move your head) and then have full VR scenes tailor made throughout. It would still be very niche though but could lead to some interesting movies finding clever ways to use the tech.
Watching TV or movies can be a shared communal experience, VR will always be a personal experience.
The gimmick l wanna see a theater do is have the single strictest cell phone and talk policy possible, if someone uses their phone get em out of there.
I know, every time the screen says "please silence your phones" I yell, "turn them off!"
La Femme Nikita is the original, all these others are simply copies.
Gambit is a pretty interesting character it’s just not many people know it because Gambit hasn’t been used in X-Men comics that much anymore but he does have an interesting connection with Mr.Sinister and Gambit is a pretty powerful Mutant
Hi guys,
Gonna take a few minutes to THANK YOU for all the work you put on your videos, from news to humor, is a good way to keep you inform and to laugh especially when you have a low day or a low week.
I've watched your videos for a couple of years and most of the times I dont leave coments but after hearing you talk about all the negative vibes that you get from youtube I wanted to put a little bit of positive energy here.
That's all, hope you read this. Happy new year.
I think, what could be a decent storyline too for a black widow movie if not for an origin. is one that has to deal with the aftermath of some of the potential deaths of the avengers after infinity war and how it affects her and SHIELD organization, and what she has to do to save the world without powers or help. idk, could show some depth for that character as well.
I’m really frustrated with MoviePass right now I ordered my card in August or September, and I still haven’t gotten it after 3 emails.
I want it to take place after Avengers 3 and 4. The contrast of scale between the movies will be really great and interesting!
Dan Murrell , good points about MoviePass (tm), though I haven't received the same emails. Hopefully these kinds of promotional deals will keep them afloat. But we all know it is the data mining their main investor is really interested in.
I'm not specially excited about VR, but that could change with content.
When TVs first showed up, they offered something different. Color TVs also represented a huge leap. But 3D just doesn't improve the experience a lot. 15min into the movie you already forgot about it and they have to throw stuff at your face to remind you why you paid extra.
I think it's the same with VR right now. It needs to change a lot, but most importantly, it needs to find its place. Where can it be used best.
I think during Avengers 2, I really wanted a Black Widow movie. I am excited for this!
Do it. Winter Soldier is at the top of my ranking. I love spy action. Assassins. Agents. All the armed and unarmed combat. Spy technology. Make the combat and acrobatics and spy stunts jaw dropping.
Great show. I had always assumed long term movie pass was trying to become like clearinghouse of unsold seats for movie tickets. With the idea theaters can make some money on mostly empty weekday showings.
People have literally been touting VR as the next big thing since the late '80s. Every time they roll it out, the public has rejected it as costly and uncomfortable.
The problem with a VR "movie" is that the filmmaking is supposed to direct you towards the plot relevant action. If you can look around at the irrelevant stuff in the scene, you are going to miss the good bits. It would only really useful in an open world video game.
I would preffer a duo/movie with her and Hawkeye, both characters work together so well and both deserve a good story.
And it could be a very cool spy/thriller/action movie.
I'm not saying I don't want this movie, I love Black Widow. I just think it would be a little bit more cool to have both characters leading their own movie.
I still haven't gotten any ads from MoviePass. Then again, if they can track my movie watching habits, and learn my preferences kinda like Netflix does, then I might be totally on board with them giving me ads. I mean, is it really an ad if they're coaxing me to go see a free product?
Dan is spot on with Gambit. He's cool, and that's about it.
Disney used to have "360 degree movies" at their parks. Home VR might be a way to rerelease those.
I'm not interested in a Black Widow film, but understand that there are those who might be interested. I don't know that a Black Widow film will be of interest to the masses. I've seen Johansson in several films, apart from Marvel, and haven't been that impresses with her. If they had done a stand alone film for her a few years back, I might have different feelings about it. I think they will be going backward by doing a Black Widow film now. And again, I'm not impressed with her acting and her carrying a film. Black Widow fits in well with an ensemble.. If she needs to be propped up with Captain American or others in her first solo venture, what's the point.
I have an idea of making Black widow movie more interesting and potentially being a box-office hit, but this is just my opinion on what they should do with the movie if they do decide to make it. Here it is:
BLACK WIDOW: CODE RED
The universe was pulled from the brink of ultimate defeat post Avengers 4, but on Earth Natasha Romanov is still a wanted woman. They could also add Thaddeus Ross and his UN task force to have a new target: his old obsession Bruce Banner, which also adds to the Hulk story arc too, since Hulk can't have his own movie, and also expand on the Hulk-Black Widow relationship which we've seen in the first two avengers movie. You can have Black Widow, the Hulk, and Nick Fury fending for their lives in the jungles of South America, and discover what the Red Protocol is. VILLAINS introduced could be RED HULK (a very popular HULK villain in the comics), THE LEADER (maybe the main villain), and either TASKMASTER or YELENA BOLOVA (BLACK WIDOW vs TASKMASTER would be dope as fuck and a good way to introduce him into MCU, but YELENA BOLOVA vs BLACK WIDOW would be awesome as well since she is a classic adversary of black widow). Add some hawkeye, bucky in the movie to really flesh out the character of Black Widow by exploring their shared pasts together with the Red Room and really explain what happened in Budapest. Heck, maybe throw in Wolverine too, but not really necessary.
Black Widow ascending to leadership of the Avengers and leading the Earth based heroes to the cosmic and Dr Strange's multiverse will be interesting. She will be our conduit -- a normal human being discovering the craziness of space travel and magic
She'd probably die in Infinity War or Avengers 4 before having a chance to lead the avengers.
I agree with Billy, I was never really into black widow and I can't imagine her carrying a solo movie
I think VR will be aimed at TV shows with one/two locations, like the sitcoms or maybe documentaries where there is no need for a narrative. Don't think they're aiming at movies.
If you read the comic Saga you will find the source for this. Live, choreographed theater.
More interested in captain marvel movie, what's new with that
No news, it's happening and comes out next year. Don't really need any news at this point.
I agree with Dan, I never found Gambit to be that interesting of a character, and was never excited for a solo Gambit movie. He only works well when playing off other X-men characters, and just has a very 90's cool-but-superficial persona. Like Deadpool without the humor or 4th wall breaking.
Yay a Black Widow solo movie could happen cool. I want to see more solo movie with smaller avengers characters.
I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS BLACK WIDOW MOVIE! I would hope, given it will be after IF and most likely Avengers 4 it will be a prequel...hopefully we'll get to see some Red Room or maybe even BUDAPEST WITH HAWKEYE! FYI taking it back in time will be just like this upcoming Captain Marvel movie which will be set in the 90s with Nick Fury. Both of these movies, although after IF will be great to add to the narrative of the overarching story of the MCU. I trust Marvel. They know what they're doing.
Makes sense to do it before Infinity Gauntlet. They have to explain what shes been doing since going on the run.
Love Paddington in the front. Good that Roth
I surprised they don't all have Movie Pass for the amount of movies that they have to see
Almost every time I see Joe and Danielle in the same video I comment asking for a Joe v. Danielle movie fight... I can't believe it's actually happening! My dog and I are actually going to watch live this time, usually I just watch afterwards but I have the day off work today. . . it's fate.
i got a survey email asking "if you didn't have movie pass, would you have seen iTonya"
Looking beautiful Roth! X
But if Movie Pass is advertising a specific movie for their users to go see, they are still paying for the ticket to that movie... So that still makes it seem part of the data collection strategy, which doesn’t seem sustainable.
Billy I'm with you I prefer a Scarlet witch or other woman than Black widow movie
Wish they made mini-series for Netflix instead, Daredevil or The Punisher style. If they are gonna go with a movie, they should go for a Winter Soldier style spy movie
Where’s Lon gone? I miss the gamemaster!
I agree with Billy. Black Widow works best in a group. Also with the failure of Ghost in the Shell it's pretty clear Johansson is not a headliner. I am way more interested in Captain Marvel and Valkyrie. I love spy movies but I don't need a black widow movie.
If they get a great writer, director and supporting cast then it might work. The problem is Atomic Blonde, Proud Mary, and Red Sparrow are like Non-Marvel Black Widow movies anyways. What would be cool is if they made an A-Force movie instead featuring Black Widow, Valkyrie, Captain Marvel, Wasp possibly Gamora, Nebula and maybe even She-Hulk.
I heard it could be potentially be Marvel’s first R-Rated film. And though that sounds appropriate I’m skeptical about such an idea.
I asked for chicken strips... I want a ready supply of chicken strips everywhere I go
Black Widow movie would be great especially of exploring more of her back story. I think they should add in Hawkeye in it because he needs more spot light in the MCU.
I'd watch Mallrats as an interactive film
Jamie foxx's real name is Eric Bishop if anyone is wondering lol
It should be a Black Widow and Hawkeye movie that shows the origin story of both characters and then goes into a Budapest storyline.
Please do this marvel!!!!!!!
Eric Bishop is Jamie Foxx's real name.
I don't really think we really need a black widow movie anymore she's a very well rounded character and we've seen a lot of her and know a lot of her it's a bit unnesary to so if the movie is only average or slightly above average there're so many character they could spin off and develops instead but hey theres nothing with it
But there's people out there really want to know more of her's back story though. I do believe a origin story of Black Widow would work on the big screen.
yeah i agree with shellyman. I don't think there's much to do with Black Widow in the present day, but her origin (russian spy stuff) is definitely something that would be interesting to watch.
Tons of people want a Black Widow movie so ...
Everyone is basing this on the MCU while comic readers are looking at the Marvel Knights and later series that would be good.
It would have been great 3 or 4 years ago, but I feel like they've missed the boat a bit with this tbh.
I agree that we don't 'need' a Black Widow movie. But I do hope they do it, and they knock it out of the park like Wonder Woman did surprising all of you naysayers and reaffirming the genius that is the MCU
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When Roth asked if Dan was okay and why he was holding his arm, I got scared for a second that Dan might be having a heart attack ... even though I’ve already watched Movie Fights.
Spoiler alert: Dan lives.
I've been calling for a Black Widow movie since Winter Soldier so any news on it moving forward is good news. I hope it isn't undermined by Atomic Blonde, Red Sparrow & John Wick making it feel too familiar. I also want a Gambit movie but it shouldn't be ABOUT Gambit, you can't explain cool, just make it like a classic western where a stranger rolls into town.
I want to see a gambit movie shot like a john wick film, thats how you keep gambit badass
I would have wanted a Black Widow and Hawkeye movie back when they introduced the throw away line about Budapest in the first Avengers movie. That was..what? Five or six years ago now? Maybe more? I wanted to know what happened to them and then before that how they met. That would have been a great movie back then. However, there's no story there. One would have to be invented. It's like "The Kessel Run" for Han Solo in the Star Wars franchise. That was just a throw away line. There never were plans to tell that story, but now all Han Solo fans want to see that. And we're about to, and it's gonna suck.
The sad truth is too much time has elapsed. You can't go back in time and tell the story of Budapest. Johanssen and Renner are too old to play their young counterparts, and if you recast no one will care. It's gotta be Johanssen and Renner, or there's no point in going back. We also know both of the characters have since moved on. Perhaps when they first met sparks flew and they fell in love but now Clint Barton's happily married. Natasha has a thing for Banner. It'd just be really weird now if we went back in time to tell that story.
So instead, a Black Widow movie would have to be about where she is now in the middle of the MCU, and I just don't see how that's remotely interesting unless you team her up with the other characters. I want to see her in Black Panther. She'd be fun in the next Doctor Strange film. Like The Hulk, Black Widow is more powerful as a foil for other big brand names in the MCU franchise. She started in the comics as a one off villain. I don't recall her ever having a successful solo comic book title. My favorite stuff growing up reading about her in the comics was her teaming up with Daredevil or Spider-Man. it's a shame Charlie Cox can't be moved from Netflix to the big screen, and Johanssen would never slum it in the tv series. but I bet those two actors would chew up scenery well together.
Since then, Agent Carter happened. And especially during season two, anything I needed from a Black Widow movie I got from the Agent Carter tv series. I would have wished they'd continued with Agent Carter cuz it was as if that series had been written especially for me. It failed cuz it was a little geeky and tongue in cheek and weird. Most people were not going to get it. And if they'd done a Black Widow film instead of the Agent Carter tv series I'm concerned that the film woulda been less fun and more dark and I think everything worked out well. I'm good. Yeah five years ago I was pissed off when it looked like the Black Widow movie was gonna fall through but you know what? I'm good. For me it worked out great. I'm even happy with where Agents of SHIELD is going overall. I've had my criticisms over the years with how this tranwreck of a franchise has been barrelling down its tracks but looking back it's been a hell of a ride.
After Infinity War, I'm concerned that the use of the Infinity Gauntlet in the story line might tempt Feige to reboot the MCU, so who knows what a Black Widow movie will even look like now. If it turns out to be fun that's okay, but if it falls through, I'm not gonna lose any sleep.
Did they talk about the New Mutants movie being pushed till feb 2019 in another video?I am so curious to see what they have to say about that. It´s a whole year it´s been pushed back, and we have a trailer for it already, or a teaser, but still. We don´t have that for Solo and that´s coming out in a few months. And also now Deadpool 2 has been moved up to a before Solo release date! Cray cray!
Why? A black widow movie, I love her character in every MCU movie, but we don’t need this
Billy-can you post your test online for us to take?
Spencer-stop sipping you drink so much
Damn Roth! I love that shirt!
Well, it's not always about a need to explore more, but whether people would like that, whether it'd be successful and they have the right people for it.
But, yeah, them being a woman shouldn't be THE reason to not do it. If anything, ScarJo has proven successful enough, the Russos good enough with the spy/espionage genre and Black Widow established enough there's more reason to do it.
Also, I agree with Spencer - having some hot food in theater's lovely. We don't have that where I am.
Yeah, just because there is a scrip doesn't mean it will ever enter production.
I hope it’s a movie with her and the winter soldier
does anyone know if movie pass is available in Canada?
actually instead of an origin story for black widow i'd b more interested to watch a movie about how c's handling her adjustment to her role in the world now, after 'winter soldier' when all her background is on the internet, when everyone knows who c is on sight. the adjustment from superspy that sheds identities like snake skin and infiltrates and presents a different image according to what's required in the situation to very visible superhero must have been jarring to say the least...as well as the change in mission profiles, esp after shield's collapse.from an agent that follows orders and works to the shadows to a public figure that has to operate in the spotlight and has to be responsible themselves for what 'mission' they choose to follow... and then the tables flip again after civil war. what even IS her 'job' right now? what does c identify herself as? now that i would find interesting...
I agree with Dan about Gambit. He’s a great supporting character, but am not interested in a solo Gambit movie.
The bobaffect!! x'D
and where is the Blu-ray Release for Agent Carter
Why can't I eat chicken fingers and watch a movie. That sounds great and filling.
Nicole Washington ever heard of dine in theaters?
I think for the point of her story, a Black Widow movie is to little to late to come out now that the masses are getting to a point of superhero fatigue. Even if its a grounded down to earth spy movie, it holding a "superhero" name will put a lot of people off of it. This movie if it were to come out, should have come out along with Winter soldier, (as a minimovie or TV show that came out alongside it). If having a female superhero movie is such a big deal theyll only make one, there are so many others I would rather see then black widow...
Black Widow is probably not gonna cost that much like the other marvel movies. Im guessing from 80 to a 100 million ? And would gross upto a 100 or 300 million. If so? In terms of numbers still wont be a flop
I feel like Black Widow has missed it's window for a solo movie. Should have happened after the first Avengers movie. Could have been the new Spy franchise now Bond is played out.
Err, just after Red Sparrow is about to start principle photography?
Day late doesn't even cut it
What if this Black Widow script is actually that female avengers team-up that the women in marvel pitched to feige? It could feature a female team like Thor did the revengers
Dan is a legit smart dude. Did he really go to Florida St?
She-Hulk movie by Sorkin, please.
I don't think VR will even touch the theater market. Where you will see change will be in live stream casting, real estate, sadly enough porn will take a huge chunk and maybe even VR dating. Theater experience isn't really even a viable avenue, people go to see movies and that's it. Nobody wants to take the time to stand in line and give their car keys or id's to check out a headset. And would have to include a trained employee(s) to give a 15 min walk thru including a is your seat belt on like on a theme park ride? And imagine the price. And you would need a viable amount of time given for the viewer to look around and if there's nothing to look at or even interact with then it's a total waste.
Personally I think VR is a very private experience. That way you can fall face first into your TV for whatever reason or stare at a womans or man's armpit without having someone say wtf are you looking at situation.
In my experience so far I've really enjoyed the live stream aspect. I've stood in a 360° haunted insane asylum (which I'll get into in a hot second), I've really enjoyed anything RedBull extreme has done and actually think that is one avenue that RedBull may corner. Everythjng from anything caught while helmet camd. Snowboarding, race drifting, air rally races you name it.
Now in regards to the 360° ghost hunters experience, I just love me some of that and then seconds of some of that, then some more. What really trips me out and especially with the rewatchable aspect is just the nuts and bolts of that whole 360° basic concept. I can't seem to get my mind around how this crap works and is stored. I mean I'm able to login to this person's stream after their done and have gone to bed and I'm able to look anywhere as far as the camera can see. Isn't that a huge chunk of storage? Or am I just trippin? Lol
Don't really want one. She's fairly bland in PG13 land and the only way to made it decent would be to make it an R rating which Disney isn't doing.
Yay Hopper!