Jim Bridger is my great-great exedra exedra grandfather. His third wife "Marry" her name was actually Little Fawn. She was the daughter of Chief Washakie. These are my grandparents that I descend from. Love the show I'm a huge fan.
This fella Josh was born to tell stories. Very easy to listen too. Most narrator's are annoying if you like the subject matter this is as good as it gets. period
I found him annoying finally over the “magic underwear” crack. Low blow from low intelligence in my book. But that’s the difference between a historian and an internet story teller. Admittedly I do have a bias. But love Western Early History over any European history. Jim Bridger was a friend to my family the Taylor’s as I understand it.
31 minutes never went so quickly, the sign of a great story teller. I don't normally 'shout out' larger channels than my own, but the UK needs to hear your narrations.
Mr. Josh, I don't listen to these quite often enough. But when I do, I'm appreciative of your ability to make history, first, educational. But for myself, more fun to learn. Your delivery is on point for folks like myself. Always a good listen, and lesson, in my opinion. Please carry on!
@@outdoorloser4340 I should’ve called it diner pass. It started out as auto correct, but was just too funny to pass up. You can’t recall a word that is spoken or make something go away by erasing it. So it stays if it hairlips every cannibal in the USA.
As a descendent of Mormon pioneers that traveled with Young I enjoyed the jokes immensely! I have always liked Jim Bridger and prior to this video I too thought his motivation for pushing the Hastings cutoff was selfish but this video changed my mind.
You failed to mention that when Brigham Young met Jim Bridger, Young was suffering from Tick Fever. This fever as with any fever, can cause hallucinations & delusions. So you might've cut him a little slack by being fair about the fever instead of running him down.
I lived in Utah for 20 years.... 1988 S.L.C. was the Greatest City ever . The world discovered Utah and just invaded by people moving there. S.L.C. changed bad.... I moved out of there in 2006. Thanks 😎
While I’m definitely guilty of thoughtlessly griping about the sustained Mormon influence both socially and politically. What I can say is that Salt Lake City has changed a lot since 2006. Immigration is definitely at a high, however the majority are all moving into new houses, in new towns, far away with little voting influence to the nearby locals. I can say that Salt Lake City, in comparison to other “blue enclaves in red states” has a far better living standards, cleanliness, public services, maintenance, job opportunities, and urban homelessness management. Due in large part to that very same, sustained Mormon influence. To sum it up in one sentence: Liberty Park is NICE now, if you can imagine.
@@Mr.Marketing liberty park is nice now? What a twist I was 8 years old and lived there in 1985. My parents told me never ride my bike to liberty park and didn’t explain why until I was older lol
@@MantecaCa-f6w It’s the same with “Sugarhood park” where I was born in 2001. It was in an awful state during my childhood and we moved out. Now at 22 I’m paying insane rent to live in the immaculately gentrified Sugarhouse. The City very forcefully condensed the homeless into like 3 blocks downtown and a portion of State Street. The moral implications of which are uncomfortable, but it made SLC’s habitability skyrocket in only 5 years. Downside is you can’t pilot a novelty paddle-boat through salmonella water in either park anymore.
Spent a night in Jim Bridgers house in Kansas City around 2015. My old navy buddy had bought it from a professor. Place was in some disrepair, and my friend told stories about the place, but I hadn’t heard of JB prior... somehow came across this in my feed. Cool
As a Donner party descendant, I found this very interesting. Although it's been a while since I have studied the tragedy, I can't remember Jim Bridger being blamed for the incident.
Great. Fit's the years of Jim's first wife with father Washakie life times? Her father one of Custers chozen scouts and a relative of legendary Sacajeva! Josh man ,you made it again, I learnend much about the earlier mormons, we have them here in Germany Germany for decades, nice people all of them. You got it dealt right out. Regards Ludwig
You could put a picture of the man in the moon if you wanted to as far I'm concerned.You still tells a good story about a part of history,keep doing it!
@WildWestExtravaganza I'm still trying (not very hard) of you even know what the hell you're talking about. Oh, I haven't subbed. Definitely not planning on it due to your stellar replies. Don't worry though, it'll be shared on my socials. I'll show how awesome you and your channel is.
Excellent series on Jim Bridger!!! Thanks for including the links to the other podcast that your alter-ego said not to check out in the show notes!!! 😅
200 years ago we traveled in wagons drawn by horses, fastest way. Now you can travel by jet and do that in hours with your furniture a day or two behind. Those people were tough, at least the ones who made it.
Mormons are some of the best people I've ever met. But realize that while exceedingly polite, every single one of them are armed to the teeth, and damn willing to fight at the drop of the President (of the church)'s hat. I was a Boy Scout leader in a mostly Mormon troop. When it came time for the rifle shooting merit badge, every damn dad showed up with an AR-15 for their son to qualify with. 99% of Boy Scout Troops use a few .22 rifles... Not with the Mormons.. it's "Bring you gun to qualify your son" day lol. Most of the young boys needed NO pointers to qualify... the'd been shooting that AR since they were in Cub Scouts 😂. Most polite, kind, and gentle people you will ever meet... But not to be F-ed with. Respect.
As a former believer myself, I think I may have a bit more expertise on the Mormon people. No they all aren't armed to the teeth. There are a number you could describe as owning lots of firearms, but many would never have a firearm in their home. Painting with wide brushes renders little accurate detail.
@@SRLowther Yes, this guy wildly inaccurate about the situation. I don’t own guns, my sons don’t own guns. I have a brother who did and brothers who don’t. I have a son-in-law who does and two who don’t. Get over yourself.
Me too driving a truck between Sacramento and Reno in the early 2000s. But didn't those folks in the snowy airplane crash somewhere do more dining? I did some skiing at Bridger Bowl once or twice - was that named after him? Have to leave early so I don't know if it was covered. Interesting - so I will be back. Thanks
Knew a guy who almost crashed on his Cessna onto i80 on Donner summit flying that exact route. It still can be risky at times! He swore he'd never fly that route again with that 170 😅
First off, no one knows how to pronounce Seedskadee….except the 2-3 people who manage the place. But as someone who’s from this region, I’m loving the pronunciations. Wrong on a few, (Wasatch instantly comes to mind) but I seriously and sincerely love hearing people pronounce these names. The town and county Tooele is my favorite. And in all fairness, my Norwegian in laws laugh at me when I try to pronounce words such as “Bodø”. And I do mean laugh! 😂 Next, for history’s sake, Young’s men destroying Bridget’s whiskey one sip at a time. (Your joke was hilarious!) Modern day mormons don’t drink booze, but Brigham Young had a brewery himself. In fact, close to the campus of the University of Utah is “Brewery Hill” and the Anniversary Inn occupies part of the old building. Finally, I really enjoyed this! I do live in Utah, am of first-in-Utah pioneer stock (traded in the magic underwear years ago), and I enjoyed this. You’re a great storyteller!
@@WildWestExtravaganza It’s tough with so many different language influences to pronunciations correct so I hope I didn’t come across as mean or condescending. The important part is your style and you absolutely kept my attention! Can’t wait to listen to more these. Cheers.
The Marcus Whitman monument and the mission is a cool place to see. There’s also an old settlement there that still has the old original cabins by the museum.
@@WildWestExtravaganza it is. There’s an outdoor amphitheater where they do old western plays. And then there’s the native museum as well. Lots to see there. Close to Palouse country where you talked about as well as the Oregon trail. You can go rent wagons to camp in and ride the trail. And it’s all surrounded by beautiful mountains and prairie (then desert but no one says that part 🤫😂) it’s a worthwhile trip.
Have You done a video on Portor Rochelle, Bringham's Assassin, first Federal Marshall of the Utah Territory, Angles of Death , Stansbury Massacre, Missouri Massacre, the etemted Assassination of Missouri Governor.??? There's some interesting History about the Church and there Garments. Thanks 😎
Excellent videos on Bridger, you have a new subscriber. On the attack by the Cheyennes and Arapaho in ‘42; I’ve also seen several mentions of an attack in August of ‘43 by the same group, perhaps the same event misdated? Either way, I’m very curious about the (French?) renegade Louis Revere (if that’s the right spelling) that you mentioned involved this attack. Can you point me towards any info about him please? Not finding anything in my searches.
I watched the South Park episode about Mormonism, and we were laughing our heads off and come to find out that that’s exactly what they believe. It’s unbelievable that so many people can believe in that stuff like the stones in the hat, and the genetic relation between native Americans and Hebrews, which has been proven not the case by simple science tests, but people still believe this stuff.
Spent a short time in SLC while in the military in the sixties. It was a bit weird and they denied the Meadow Massacre ever happened or they said that they never heard of it.
Yeah, not like believing that a donkey told a guy to stop hitting him in the Bible. Or when the serpent talked? Or when the staff turned into a serpent? Stupid Christians. What a joke, amiright?
Jim Bridger was the first one to float down hells canyon.. he did it in a bulldog when he was 14 years old... I've camped in the very spot many times... It took Little Jim Bridger 7 days to walk back on the Oregon side of the river... They all thought he had died but when he came back he still have the cross the river right above the worst rapids
I'm a descendant of Brigham Young. My great Grandfather Charles Paul Held was married to Mabel Alexandra Young Daughter of Brigham young Junior. I'm not a Mormon but found this story fascinating. Especially since I have recently watched historical videos/stories of Jim Bridger.
I lived in Cache Valley, Utah. It was named for the caches of beaver furs the mountain men cached in the valley. Cache Valley was originally called Bridgerland because Jim Bridger was the first White man to visit the valley.
This is a segment of Bridger life I am quite opinionated about. I don't see Brighim Young as the Saint made of him. In my perspective he became the very incarnate of the very persecution that the mormons were fleeing from. And effectively became an Al Capone style leader of a a crime family. Willing to do what ever means necessary to protect his own stranglehold on his own peace of commerce and empire. The whole thing was a rouse base on ol gabe being willing to trade with all comers, including local tribes and worse to young, the US army. So willing to protect his own sanctuary he would burn a prairie to starve out any who dare to come his way. I ordered the events leading to and including the massacre at mountain meadows. History still debates as to if he sent word rescinding his order, or if he ever regretted his own actions. I have no doubt he maintained his own version of a hit squad.
I fell out of bed laughing when you said to break out the Caffeine-Free Diet Cokes at the start of the video. If you ever went into a “Stop-N-Rob” in Utah you get the joke.
For a thorough and detailed review of the Indian Wars in the Great Basin, get a copy of "The Deadliest Indian War in the West," by Gregory Michno. The Mormons were very forward and provocative. The other big, dark event was the infamous "Mountain Meadows Massacre."
I Livid Close to Bridger Pass. He had a Trading post at Mt. View Wildoming. Andb the Mormons Burnt it down. Floated the Green from Fontenelle to Sissikedee several times. Cheers !?
@@WildWestExtravaganza Perspective Clarity ... Based on your description: 📚 If one applies Discernment, rather than Judgemental, defining the Behaviors and identifying their roots, what emerges is the energ8es that are housed in the Human Lower Mind 9r Human Higher Mind. By category: Bridger: Communicates Disires of Cooperation - Higher Mind Attempts to use the Established Legislative System for Solutions and Resolutions - (Higher Mind/Personal and Collective Harmony) Mormon Administrative Individual(s): Commentaries of Opinion and Accusations, Blame - Lower Mind Actions of Aggressions, force, to bring harm or death - (Lower Mind/Overt Power Act, Personal Power, Potential Greed; Group Power) Government: Usurped the request for assistance to resolve through Legal Means, "taking of anothers property for the gains of power and financial gains - (Lower Mind/Overt Greed) You determine the values involved in Higher Mind vs Lower Mind traits and behaviors. Defining behaviors absent of Judging the individual, allows one to apply compassion, seek solutions, avoids one delving into their own Lower Mind. Apparently the Mountain Man had mastered his Thinking and evolved to his Higher Mind, (that would be in l8ne with the original teachings of Yeshua/Jesus) ☀️ Best Thoughts ... Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian
The matter of Bridger's fort ownership was settled when Brigham young produced a bill of sale for around $10,000 in gold for the fort and all its holdings with Bridgers mark on it. The Army recognized Mormon ownership and the the Mormons forfeited the fort to the government as part of the peace settlement with the government.
That's interesting. I have a copy of a house of representatives document that stated Bridger was never paid by the government because he could never provide them with a document of ownership. Are you saying Young bought the property before, during or after the lease agreement with the government? The document stated there were witnesses that said the Mormons burned down most of Fort Bridger and that Bridger was given the land from the the Mexicans when it was still under there control but was never provided a legal document of ownership to Bridger.
Thank you for the heart.... Jim Bridger with special there's a lot of places that people don't understand where he grew up... And the man that he hung out with..... The seven temples is a seven angels that's my area... 7 temples were well-known because King David built the first one Solomon when he was a teenager into his early twenties built the second Temple... Their names reflect the seven churches over in turkey that the seven temples were built way before you know those seven Temple set outside until 1883 when they had to put them away... SARDIS PHILADELPHIA LAODICEA EPHESUS SMYMA PERGAMUM THYATIRA.. There's their names don't wear them out.... You know that's why Jim Bridger when he was 14 years old was there on the Snake River Solomon's Temple of Philadelphia.... People used to go there to trade with the temples... I can understand a lot of history has been destroyed in this country
It was a little hard to follow the timeline on Fort Bridger, but during the Utah War (1857-1858) and immediately prior thereto, Fort Bridger would have represented a vital strategic asset to the Mormons. It was likely used to prevent or delay the arrival of Johnston's Army into the Salt Lake Valley.
The problem with these stories from history, is that we're making a lot of speculation and assumptions based on things that happened hundreds of years ago with poor record keeping. When you say "there's no evidence of this, there's no evidence of that," that doesn't mean it didn't happen. we don't have a lot to work with. Hell, the media can't even get stories right today that happened yesterday or within hours, so these types of story's need to be taken with a massively huge grain of salt... Or in this case, an entire lake made of salt. 😅
OK my only issue, is that you make a lot of stupid comments about Brigham Young being paranoid or cult like and blah blah blah, the problem is that these people were driven out of their homes and killed and raped and beaten and all kinds of horrible things, The governor of Missouri passed the mormon extermination act, making it legal which was completely unconstitutional obviously, to kill mormons. so you can't really sit there and say that was paranoia on their part. You're also giving benefit of the doubt to bridges when it came to his recommendation of trails without any evidence, but then turn around and make disparaging assumptions about other people in the story with equally no evidence, it would seem that you have a biased that is shown. There are equally many people and writings that would say this was out of character for Brigham Young as well, so you're completely taking one side of the issue and being biased in the way you're framing the story, the truth is we have no idea what really happened.
Also, unless I missed it, I would love to hear your account of Jim Bridger's relationship with Hugh Glass, which whom may be great subject matter for another episode or series.
@@WildWestExtravaganzato be fair, not being familiar with this subject my 1st thought was that was Bridger. I see your next video on him does use his picture. Just a little confusing for us that don't know any better
I like your quick pace summary of events. My critique is your pronunciation of Nevada. The first a sounds like when you pronounce "at" or "ham" not "ah."
@@WildWestExtravaganza Yes and a bodyguard of Joseph Smith and Later Brigham Young. Though by the period that the story is from he would have been much older. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Rockwell
Really enjoyed the video. And Yes Im an Elder in the Church of Jesus Christ of Later day Saints. We all have to understand History is to learn from. People are people. Even Prophets. We don’t get to choose what we want and throw out the rest. That said not everything written is the whole truth. I appreciate you explaining that from the LDS side it may well have appeared that Bridger was a gun runner for the native tribes in the area. I believe in a way he was though Like you mentioned. Probably not with the intent of arming them for war. I once belonged to the American Mountain Man Association. It was a rule to go no where without your firearm. Doing so brought much derision and many practical jokes.. In the 1830s Mountain men and others might cut short their days by being caught without a firearm during a trip to relieve one’s self or just stepping away from the security of camp, bears, wolves, and any number of people with bad intentions abounded. So of course these were much sought after items.
Having driven the entirety of the areas you mention here, often in lousy weather, i can only say that in the mid 19th century, it would have been the equivalent of colonizing or exploring mars. Beautiful, but incredibly remote, unforgiving country. Love your narrative style (this being my first taste of it), and you earned a new subscriber! Btw, im direct kin to the not so historically beloved patriarch of the Young clan, and find neither fault nor insult in your quite factual (if a bit over the top at times, lol) chronicle of the old lunatic
Have some stuff under Joshua Terry my great great grandfather and he worked with Jim at the fort . Look under church history under his name , he was also best friends with Porter Rockwell , William Hickman , Lot Smith , Chief Washsaka , Joshua Terry also ran a ferry crossing at the green river and had two Indian wife's and one son George Terry was a Indian chief but killed being half white and fighting with the Indian government winter reservation supply food for the tribes in the area .
Jim Bridger is my great-great exedra exedra grandfather. His third wife "Marry" her name was actually Little Fawn. She was the daughter of Chief Washakie. These are my grandparents that I descend from.
Love the show I'm a huge fan.
Thank you!
Wow. That is a couple of great - great grandfathers. Two of most famous and revered men of the west!
No kidding
@@dionbridger5944 yes sir
That’s awesome thanks for sharing!
This fella Josh was born to tell stories. Very easy to listen too. Most narrator's are annoying if you like the subject matter this is as good as it gets. period
Thanks James!
dont glorify mormons....
@@WildWestExtravaganza
I found him annoying finally over the “magic underwear” crack. Low blow from low intelligence in my book. But that’s the difference between a historian and an internet story teller. Admittedly I do have a bias. But love Western Early History over any European history. Jim Bridger was a friend to my family the Taylor’s as I understand it.
“Open a caffeine-free Diet Coke and gather the sister-wives” 😂 I about fell out of my chair!
😀
31 minutes never went so quickly, the sign of a great story teller.
I don't normally 'shout out' larger channels than my own, but the UK needs to hear your narrations.
Thanks man!
I'm in the UK and I hear him.......love this Channel ♥️
Josh is one of the best
I agree.
Mr. Josh, I don't listen to these quite often enough. But when I do, I'm appreciative of your ability to make history, first, educational. But for myself, more fun to learn. Your delivery is on point for folks like myself. Always a good listen, and lesson, in my opinion. Please carry on!
Thanks for listening
Being a truck driver I’ve been across dinner pass, Donner pass many times. I can see where it could be rough on a wagon. Terrible joke I know
You should erase your comment as it might trigger/offend the Modern American Cannibal Community (MACC).
@@outdoorloser4340 I should’ve called it diner pass. It started out as auto correct, but was just too funny to pass up. You can’t recall a word that is spoken or make something go away by erasing it. So it stays if it hairlips every cannibal in the USA.
Here from MACC we resent and resemble your remark sir. Would you care to discuss this at dinner pass? Damn spell check.
@@blueliesmatter2 as you have pressed the matter I suppose I get to choose the weapons? Say dinner forks at 10 paces? Time and place of you choosing
@@outdoorloser4340 lol I didn’t know the “modern American cannibal community” was a thing but it doesn’t surprise me lol
Hard life, rough, great people taking all the hardships with dignity and patience...
You are a great storyteller. Never leaving the path you started but adding asides and enrichments. Well done.
Glad you enjoyed it!
As a descendent of Mormon pioneers that traveled with Young I enjoyed the jokes immensely! I have always liked Jim Bridger and prior to this video I too thought his motivation for pushing the Hastings cutoff was selfish but this video changed my mind.
Mormons have great senses of humor!
My ancestors were were in Brigham Young s party too. Brigham Young was my great great uncle.
You failed to mention that when Brigham Young met Jim Bridger, Young was suffering from Tick Fever. This fever as with any fever, can cause hallucinations & delusions. So you might've cut him a little slack by being fair about the fever instead of running him down.
Also the photo you used was not Jim Bridger. It is a photo of a Mormon named Porter Rockwell, one of Brigham's body guards.
@@WildWestExtravaganza what's your take on Into the Wild Frontier?
Damn I got excited for a minute until I remembered I listened to the whole story already. Very good job on these.
These episodes get exponentially better because of other episodes! I love this
Thank you
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This channel is absolutely amazing. I'm gonna share this in every need group I'm in. Brilliant stuff. Well done.
Much appreciated!
The sponsors quote got me!! 😂😂🙌🏼 love the podcast, love the info. Very well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I lived in Utah for 20 years....
1988 S.L.C. was the Greatest City ever . The world discovered Utah and just invaded by people moving there. S.L.C. changed bad....
I moved out of there in 2006.
Thanks 😎
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While I’m definitely guilty of thoughtlessly griping about the sustained Mormon influence both socially and politically. What I can say is that Salt Lake City has changed a lot since 2006. Immigration is definitely at a high, however the majority are all moving into new houses, in new towns, far away with little voting influence to the nearby locals. I can say that Salt Lake City, in comparison to other “blue enclaves in red states” has a far better living standards, cleanliness, public services, maintenance, job opportunities, and urban homelessness management. Due in large part to that very same, sustained Mormon influence. To sum it up in one sentence: Liberty Park is NICE now, if you can imagine.
@@Mr.Marketing liberty park is nice now? What a twist I was 8 years old and lived there in 1985. My parents told me never ride my bike to liberty park and didn’t explain why until I was older lol
@@MantecaCa-f6w It’s the same with “Sugarhood park” where I was born in 2001. It was in an awful state during
my childhood and we moved out. Now at 22 I’m paying insane rent to live in the immaculately gentrified Sugarhouse. The City very forcefully condensed the homeless into like 3 blocks downtown and a portion of State Street. The moral implications of which are uncomfortable, but it made SLC’s habitability skyrocket in only 5 years. Downside is you can’t pilot a novelty paddle-boat through salmonella water in either park anymore.
Spent a night in Jim Bridgers house in Kansas City around 2015. My old navy buddy had bought it from a professor. Place was in some disrepair, and my friend told stories about the place, but I hadn’t heard of JB prior... somehow came across this in my feed. Cool
That's pretty cool!
Great history. Utah is my home of the heart, been to Bridger National Forest many times. Love learning more about this man. Greetings from Seattle.
Greetings! Glad you enjoyed it!
as always,great story telling and research!
Wonderful information!
I would have appreciated seeing some images, particularly the maps discussed.
Noted!
That would be cool. Maps please sir.
Heard it on Patreon already, but listening again. great one again. I recently signed up on there. The best $5 a month I spent. Great work Josh
Much appreciated!
As a Donner party descendant, I found this very interesting. Although it's been a while since I have studied the tragedy, I can't remember Jim Bridger being blamed for the incident.
Your subject is Jim Bridger but your photo is of Orin Porter Rockwell?
Correct
Great. Fit's the years of Jim's first wife with father Washakie life times? Her father one of Custers chozen scouts and a relative of legendary Sacajeva! Josh man ,you made it again, I learnend much about the earlier mormons, we have them here in Germany Germany for decades, nice people all of them. You got it dealt right out. Regards Ludwig
Love it Josh, great show & outstanding content as usual 🤠🐎💯🍻
Much appreciated!
I genuinely love your channel. It's very funny and plenty immersive. Subscribed!
Welcome aboard!
This is great, many details I hadn't heard. Got yourself a new subscriber
Welcome aboard!
Such a great series my friend!
Glad you enjoy it!
Excellent video, killer channel. You mentioned "Oregon Trail" the video game. Many hrs spent on Apple 2C playing that game in 80's. lol! Saluto!
Thank you!
Wow! The algorithm has been kind and suggested 3 channels this weekend that I’ve subscribed to. Anyway… thanks from a new subscriber!
Welcome aboard! Thank you!
You could put a picture of the man in the moon if you wanted to as far I'm concerned.You still tells a good story about a part of history,keep doing it!
2 minutes in and I'm subscribing. Glad we found y'all
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
That's Porter Rockwell's picture, not Jim Bridger...😂.
#History
Who said it was Jim Bridger? #readthetitle
Immature reply for someone that wants to be taken seriously a an historian. Excellent way to destroy your credibility.
@@WildWestExtravaganza So... we sit and stare at a picture of someone that the whole 'video' isn't even about?
Ya, that makes sense.
#stoopidfish
@@Kirt-Davis lol is that what you did???!
@WildWestExtravaganza I'm still trying (not very hard) of you even know what the hell you're talking about.
Oh, I haven't subbed. Definitely not planning on it due to your stellar replies.
Don't worry though, it'll be shared on my socials. I'll show how awesome you and your channel is.
Excellent series on Jim Bridger!!! Thanks for including the links to the other podcast that your alter-ego said not to check out in the show notes!!! 😅
Ha thanks
"Grieving Parents & Orphaned Children" Would make a great band name.
200 years ago we traveled in wagons drawn by horses, fastest way.
Now you can travel by jet and do that in hours with your furniture a day or two behind.
Those people were tough, at least the ones who made it.
Yessir
the caffeine free diet coke jab earned my subscribe
Great story will be following
Thanks
Mormons are some of the best people I've ever met. But realize that while exceedingly polite, every single one of them are armed to the teeth, and damn willing to fight at the drop of the President (of the church)'s hat. I was a Boy Scout leader in a mostly Mormon troop. When it came time for the rifle shooting merit badge, every damn dad showed up with an AR-15 for their son to qualify with. 99% of Boy Scout Troops use a few .22 rifles... Not with the Mormons.. it's "Bring you gun to qualify your son" day lol. Most of the young boys needed NO pointers to qualify... the'd been shooting that AR since they were in Cub Scouts 😂. Most polite, kind, and gentle people you will ever meet... But not to be F-ed with. Respect.
As a former believer myself, I think I may have a bit more expertise on the Mormon people. No they all aren't armed to the teeth. There are a number you could describe as owning lots of firearms, but many would never have a firearm in their home.
Painting with wide brushes renders little accurate detail.
I'm a utahn born and raised here.. I'm armed to the teeth lol.. or at least that describes me pretty well lol
@@SRLowther
Yes, this guy wildly inaccurate about the situation.
I don’t own guns, my sons don’t own guns.
I have a brother who did and brothers who don’t.
I have a son-in-law who does and two who don’t.
Get over yourself.
Me too driving a truck between Sacramento and Reno in the early 2000s. But didn't those folks in the snowy airplane crash somewhere do more dining? I did some skiing at Bridger Bowl once or twice - was that named after him? Have to leave early so I don't know if it was covered. Interesting - so I will be back. Thanks
Knew a guy who almost crashed on his Cessna onto i80 on Donner summit flying that exact route. It still can be risky at times! He swore he'd never fly that route again with that 170 😅
First off, no one knows how to pronounce Seedskadee….except the 2-3 people who manage the place. But as someone who’s from this region, I’m loving the pronunciations. Wrong on a few, (Wasatch instantly comes to mind) but I seriously and sincerely love hearing people pronounce these names. The town and county Tooele is my favorite. And in all fairness, my Norwegian in laws laugh at me when I try to pronounce words such as “Bodø”. And I do mean laugh! 😂
Next, for history’s sake, Young’s men destroying Bridget’s whiskey one sip at a time. (Your joke was hilarious!) Modern day mormons don’t drink booze, but Brigham Young had a brewery himself. In fact, close to the campus of the University of Utah is “Brewery Hill” and the Anniversary Inn occupies part of the old building.
Finally, I really enjoyed this! I do live in Utah, am of first-in-Utah pioneer stock (traded in the magic underwear years ago), and I enjoyed this. You’re a great storyteller!
Hey thanks! I'm working on my pronounciations haha
@@WildWestExtravaganza It’s tough with so many different language influences to pronunciations correct so I hope I didn’t come across as mean or condescending. The important part is your style and you absolutely kept my attention! Can’t wait to listen to more these. Cheers.
you didn't come off that way at all!
The Marcus Whitman monument and the mission is a cool place to see. There’s also an old settlement there that still has the old original cabins by the museum.
Oh cool!
@@WildWestExtravaganza it is. There’s an outdoor amphitheater where they do old western plays. And then there’s the native museum as well. Lots to see there. Close to Palouse country where you talked about as well as the Oregon trail. You can go rent wagons to camp in and ride the trail. And it’s all surrounded by beautiful mountains and prairie (then desert but no one says that part 🤫😂) it’s a worthwhile trip.
I definitely need to make a trip up there one day.
Have You done a video on
Portor Rochelle, Bringham's
Assassin, first Federal Marshall of the Utah Territory,
Angles of Death , Stansbury Massacre, Missouri Massacre, the etemted Assassination of Missouri Governor.??? There's some interesting History about the Church and there Garments.
Thanks 😎
No I have not
Excellent videos on Bridger, you have a new subscriber.
On the attack by the Cheyennes and Arapaho in ‘42; I’ve also seen several mentions of an attack in August of ‘43 by the same group, perhaps the same event misdated? Either way, I’m very curious about the (French?) renegade Louis Revere (if that’s the right spelling) that you mentioned involved this attack. Can you point me towards any info about him please? Not finding anything in my searches.
Honestly I wasn't able to find more but I'm intrigued too
I watched the South Park episode about Mormonism, and we were laughing our heads off and come to find out that that’s exactly what they believe. It’s unbelievable that so many people can believe in that stuff like the stones in the hat, and the genetic relation between native Americans and Hebrews, which has been proven not the case by simple science tests, but people still believe this stuff.
Spent a short time in SLC while in the military in the sixties. It was a bit weird and they denied the Meadow Massacre ever happened or they said that they never heard of it.
Generally Mormons are much better people than myself and probably you too
I live in independence Missouri where they believe the garden of Eden is 😂
Yeah, not like believing that a donkey told a guy to stop hitting him in the Bible. Or when the serpent talked? Or when the staff turned into a serpent?
Stupid Christians.
What a joke, amiright?
Jim Bridger was the first one to float down hells canyon.. he did it in a bulldog when he was 14 years old... I've camped in the very spot many times... It took Little Jim Bridger 7 days to walk back on the Oregon side of the river... They all thought he had died but when he came back he still have the cross the river right above the worst rapids
Scott chase what's a bulldog a boat of some kind .
Cool story, extra cool because i just got back from visiting the region ne Utah, west Wyoming, east Idaho into Yellowstone.
Sounds like a great trip
Yes the Whitmans were in the Oregon Territory, but their mission is located in SE Washington near Walla Walla and Fort Walla Walla nearby.
I'm a descendant of Brigham Young. My great Grandfather Charles Paul Held was married to Mabel Alexandra Young Daughter of Brigham young Junior. I'm not a Mormon but found this story fascinating. Especially since I have recently watched historical videos/stories of Jim Bridger.
Very cool!
I live just south of seedskadee, and you nailed the pronunciation!
Finally!!!
I lived in Cache Valley, Utah. It was named for the caches of beaver furs the mountain men cached in the valley. Cache Valley was originally called Bridgerland because Jim Bridger was the first White man to visit the valley.
Love Your Stage Humor ❤️
This is a segment of Bridger life I am quite opinionated about. I don't see Brighim Young as the Saint made of him. In my perspective he became the very incarnate of the very persecution that the mormons were fleeing from. And effectively became an Al Capone style leader of a
a crime family. Willing to do what ever means necessary to protect his own stranglehold on his own peace of commerce and empire. The whole thing was a rouse base on ol gabe being willing to trade with all comers, including local tribes and worse to young, the US army. So willing to protect his own sanctuary he would burn a prairie to starve out any who dare to come his way. I ordered the events leading to and including the massacre at mountain meadows.
History still debates as to if he sent word rescinding his order, or if he ever regretted his own actions. I have no doubt he maintained his own version of a hit squad.
Bullshit.
@@montymangum3214 ok witch? The historically accurate events of history, or who the badie's are?
@@StevenMMan The mis-characterizations in your historical opinion.
Why is there a pic of Porter Rockwell? Because he was a Mormon?
Yes
That sponsorship thing was the best part. Lol
I fell out of bed laughing when you said to break out the Caffeine-Free Diet Cokes at the start of the video. If you ever went into a “Stop-N-Rob” in Utah you get the joke.
For a thorough and detailed review of the Indian Wars in the Great Basin, get a copy of "The Deadliest Indian War in the West," by Gregory Michno. The Mormons were very forward and provocative. The other big, dark event was the infamous "Mountain Meadows Massacre."
I'll check it out
I Livid Close to Bridger Pass. He had a Trading post at Mt. View Wildoming. Andb the Mormons Burnt it down. Floated the Green from Fontenelle to Sissikedee several times. Cheers !?
Very cool
So Jeds dad named him after the fighter Jim Bridger...Red Dawn for those who didn't know.
WOLVERINES
@@WildWestExtravaganza
Perspective Clarity ...
Based on your description:
📚 If one applies Discernment, rather than Judgemental, defining the Behaviors and identifying their roots, what emerges is the energ8es that are housed in the Human Lower Mind 9r Human Higher Mind.
By category:
Bridger:
Communicates Disires of Cooperation - Higher Mind
Attempts to use the Established Legislative System for Solutions and Resolutions - (Higher Mind/Personal and Collective Harmony)
Mormon Administrative Individual(s):
Commentaries of Opinion and Accusations, Blame - Lower Mind
Actions of Aggressions, force, to bring harm or death - (Lower Mind/Overt Power Act, Personal Power, Potential Greed; Group Power)
Government:
Usurped the request for assistance to resolve through Legal Means, "taking of anothers property for the gains of power and financial gains - (Lower Mind/Overt Greed)
You determine the values involved in Higher Mind vs Lower Mind traits and behaviors.
Defining behaviors absent of Judging the individual, allows one to apply compassion, seek solutions, avoids one delving into their own Lower Mind.
Apparently the Mountain Man had mastered his Thinking and evolved to his Higher Mind, (that would be in l8ne with the original teachings of Yeshua/Jesus) ☀️
Best Thoughts ...
Beth Bartlett
Sociologist/Behavioralist
and Historian
Whoops, thought this would be a Travis Tritt video based on the thumbnail. 👍
I wish!
@@WildWestExtravaganza lol 🤠
Interesting video, well presented.
One thing: Wreak, as in wreaked havoc, is pronounced as reek.
The matter of Bridger's fort ownership was settled when Brigham young produced a bill of sale for around $10,000 in gold for the fort and all its holdings with Bridgers mark on it. The Army recognized Mormon ownership and the the Mormons forfeited the fort to the government as part of the peace settlement with the government.
That's interesting. I have a copy of a house of representatives document that stated Bridger was never paid by the government because he could never provide them with a document of ownership. Are you saying Young bought the property before, during or after the lease agreement with the government? The document stated there were witnesses that said the Mormons burned down most of Fort Bridger and that Bridger was given the land from the the Mexicans when it was still under there control but was never provided a legal document of ownership to Bridger.
The intro got me!
That intro was epic
Im 37 and remember playing the oregon trail game in 5th grade.
Wednesdays are my favorite days!
Hump day
Good video 👍🏼
Thanks 👍
Thank you for the heart....
Jim Bridger with special there's a lot of places that people don't understand where he grew up... And the man that he hung out with.....
The seven temples is a seven angels that's my area... 7 temples were well-known because King David built the first one Solomon when he was a teenager into his early twenties built the second Temple... Their names reflect the seven churches over in turkey that the seven temples were built way before you know those seven Temple set outside until 1883 when they had to put them away...
SARDIS PHILADELPHIA LAODICEA EPHESUS SMYMA PERGAMUM THYATIRA..
There's their names don't wear them out.... You know that's why Jim Bridger when he was 14 years old was there on the Snake River Solomon's Temple of Philadelphia.... People used to go there to trade with the temples...
I can understand a lot of history has been destroyed in this country
One thing bout a good yarn is they get better with age...
Yes, and some of them are even true.
Great video. Would love to hear one on John Colter as well.
I did one a long time ago that's now only available on my Patreon. I do plan on rerecording it, though
Ever heard oh Lewis wetzel
As a Historian I must say Nice commentary lol I had to sub to the channel 🤷🏽♂️
Hey thanks!
@@WildWestExtravaganza holy crap you replied ‼️ no seriously I commend your research and knowledge combined with your dialogue brother I’m honored 👍🏾💯
I'm honored you think so, thanks again
It was a little hard to follow the timeline on Fort Bridger, but during the Utah War (1857-1858) and immediately prior thereto, Fort Bridger would have represented a vital strategic asset to the Mormons. It was likely used to prevent or delay the arrival of Johnston's Army into the Salt Lake Valley.
My 5th cousin. His parents operated a hotel in Richmond Virginia before they moved to Missouri.
There was a quote about JB in Jeremiah Johnson, I can’t remember what it was.
Excellent. New subscribed.
Welcome aboard!
The problem with these stories from history, is that we're making a lot of speculation and assumptions based on things that happened hundreds of years ago with poor record keeping.
When you say "there's no evidence of this, there's no evidence of that,"
that doesn't mean it didn't happen. we don't have a lot to work with.
Hell,
the media can't even get stories right today that happened yesterday or within hours, so these types of story's need to be taken with a massively huge grain of salt...
Or in this case, an entire lake made of salt.
😅
OK
my only issue, is that you make a lot of stupid comments about Brigham Young being paranoid or cult like and blah blah blah, the problem is that these people were driven out of their homes and killed and raped and beaten and all kinds of horrible things,
The governor of Missouri passed the mormon extermination act, making it legal which was completely unconstitutional obviously, to kill mormons.
so you can't really sit there and say that was paranoia on their part.
You're also giving benefit of the doubt to bridges when it came to his recommendation of trails without any evidence, but then turn around and make disparaging assumptions about other people in the story with equally no evidence, it would seem that you have a biased that is shown.
There are equally many people and writings that would say this was out of character for Brigham Young as well, so you're completely taking one side of the issue and being biased in the way you're framing the story, the truth is we have no idea what really happened.
I agree
Thanks!
Thank you!
The confluence of all of my interests. Cults, gunfights, JB, grief for landscapes, trapping, just perfect.
Thanks man!
Also, unless I missed it, I would love to hear your account of Jim Bridger's relationship with Hugh Glass, which whom may be great subject matter for another episode or series.
I spoke about it on the first video in this series, Ashley's 100
You said it right. Love that place
That is Porter Rockwell in the opening, not Jim Bridger
ARE YOU SURE
Correct! It's Porter for sure.
Lol I know...I was just giving him a hard time
@@WildWestExtravaganza Hey you should do one on Porter Rockwell! That would be a fun one! Dude was loco!
"Okay welcome back'
Savage
You should do a story on the Mormons defending Echo Canyon against the calvary.
Mormons are all devil worshipers and child molesters😊
Also do one on the Mountain Meadow Massacre.
I noticed that you highlighted this video with a portrait of a Mormon with no mention as to who he was. Maybe Orin Porter Rockwell was a Mennonite.
I did that just to irritate you, Bucky
@@WildWestExtravaganzato be fair, not being familiar with this subject my 1st thought was that was Bridger. I see your next video on him does use his picture.
Just a little confusing for us that don't know any better
Is it supposed to be a joke.. he has the name written across his head..
I do believe the picture is of Porter Rockwell....
Correct, read the video description
I think that’s a picture of porter Rockwell. I enjoyed the episode
It is
I like your quick pace summary of events. My critique is your pronunciation of Nevada. The first a sounds like when you pronounce "at" or "ham" not "ah."
Nothin but awesome here!
Many thanks
@@WildWestExtravaganza Deserved
Our HIstory teacher let us play Oregon Trail when we were good.
Very cool
That is a picture of Porter Rockwell, not Jim Bridger. But you do a fantastic job. Keep it up!
He was a bad ass even by contemporary standards
The picture above is Porter Rockwell not a picture of Bridger
An ancestor of mine was a member of Bridger’s company. And left to marry an LDS woman.
Was Porter Rockwell a Mormon?
@@WildWestExtravaganza
Yes and a bodyguard of Joseph Smith and Later Brigham Young.
Though by the period that the story is from he would have been much older.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Rockwell
Really enjoyed the video. And Yes Im an Elder in the Church of Jesus Christ of Later day Saints. We all have to understand History is to learn from. People are people. Even Prophets. We don’t get to choose what we want and throw out the rest. That said not everything written is the whole truth. I appreciate you explaining that from the LDS side it may well have appeared that Bridger was a gun runner for the native tribes in the area. I believe in a way he was though Like you mentioned. Probably not with the intent of arming them for war. I once belonged to the American Mountain Man Association. It was a rule to go no where without your firearm. Doing so brought much derision and many practical jokes..
In the 1830s Mountain men and others might cut short their days by being caught without a firearm during a trip to relieve one’s self or just stepping away from the security of camp, bears, wolves, and any number of people with bad intentions abounded.
So of course these were much sought after items.
He sure did have psycho eyes 👀 . Porter Nutwell lol
Looking forward to the rest.
Having driven the entirety of the areas you mention here, often in lousy weather, i can only say that in the mid 19th century, it would have been the equivalent of colonizing or exploring mars. Beautiful, but incredibly remote, unforgiving country.
Love your narrative style (this being my first taste of it), and you earned a new subscriber! Btw, im direct kin to the not so historically beloved patriarch of the Young clan, and find neither fault nor insult in your quite factual (if a bit over the top at times, lol) chronicle of the old lunatic
Hey thanks!
Oh the best !!!!
Cayuse pronounced "Kai-yuse".
Great channel!
Jim Bridger was an absolute savage, but this photo is of another absolute savage, Orrin Porter Rockwell.
Yep, read the title
Have some stuff under Joshua Terry my great great grandfather and he worked with Jim at the fort . Look under church history under his name , he was also best friends with Porter Rockwell , William Hickman , Lot Smith , Chief Washsaka , Joshua Terry also ran a ferry crossing at the green river and had two Indian wife's and one son George Terry was a Indian chief but killed being half white and fighting with the Indian government winter reservation supply food for the tribes in the area .
Excellent Aldo Rain reference 🤣
I try
I like hearing this guy say “Warshington”.
Hell I like saying it
You used a picture of Orrin Porter Rockwell for the thumbnail. Have you thought about doing a video about him?
Yep, I hope to in the future