I know for a fact this game would take the top of my head off, seal it in a capsule, fly it to Mars and then shoot it straight into the sun. Very much appreciate the wonderful production quality of this video though!
Wow, spot on! I generally like this game (played twice) but that shuttle mechanism is brutal and if you make a couple of timing mistakes, you'll end up outside the dome gasping for air. Unforgiving.
@@TheShapingSickness ..and I don't? I am just asking out of curiosity, I watched way too many Game Night! episodes before learning that two of the players are married.
I love the look of this game-all the colorful components, the art, the table presence-but I think if I ever tried to play it, my head would explode. :)
Regarding the stalemate you mentioned near the end; it's not necessary to have the technology to build complexes in order to advance the colony. You can build a lone building if it's exactly 2 tiles away from a matching tile. So in theory it's possible to level up the colony the whole way with no complex technology in play. P.S.: Good review though!
I sold _Lisboa_ and kept this because - yes, it is heavier, but the theme is more interesting and the mechanisms more interconnected. So I find it easier to teach than "over here is the bishop, he gives you bonus tiles and sometimes changes the economy" etc.
Two things. 1) I just bought this and it's my first Vital Lacerda game. Everybody told me not to buy it. They said it's too complicated. They said I'll be frustrated. They said Gallerist would be better. I don't care and I can't wait for it to get here after watching this video! :D 2) I just watched this and it's my first No Pun Included video. Loved everything about it. The camera work. The editing. The playful banter. Thank you for not fading to black in the first 45 seconds!
Wow, another stellar review by NPI. I feel you really captured the full extent of what makes On Mars interesting, dynamic, and different despite it's complexity. And the comparison to Concordia seems really apt. Thanks for the work and effort you put into it -- definitely the most informative and useful review of the game I've yet seen!
Your videos just keep getting better and better, great insightful and thoughtful review, keep up the good work! Plus the lighting and editing was top notch.
New to this channel and I love the two of you already 😂❤️. I’ve been delving too much lately on channels that showcased lots of board game scales easy, intermediate and heavy and plethora of titles. Just got so overwhelmed and excited and your video is like breath of fresh air with the entertainment value sprinkled in it 😆👍.
Absolutely love this. This is the only 3 hour game I've ever played that immediately makes me want to play again. You think you know how to improve your play, jump into a new round and it's just a different game altogether and you're STILL left wondering why none of your plans line up. Shameless fanboying aside, completely agreed on the first 10 seconds of this video. If a 4.5 weight Lacerda game sounds like a good time to you, get this. Otherwise, probably stay away or try some of this other offerings first. I'd recommend Vinhos Deluxe for that, it was my entry point and still feels like the most accessible.
Love your videos, and love the “guarded recommendation” for this game. I watched the video from start to finish, and have enjoyed other Lacerda games, so I suppose I’ll just have to start saving my money now...
Great to see Elaine back, and great to see you guys back to euro mammoths business! Awesome to see somebody not afraid of Master Vital's work 😋 Just to add, if this guy who just have finished Agricola wants to try Lacerda... perhaps s/he should start with Vinhos first ^^' I think it is the most approachable of all his heavy euro games. On Mars can wait for later. Albeit, not sure how well you can play such a demanding game without both of your kidneys... On a side note, I would say Lisboa, with their clunky building mechanisms, is indeed a bigger brain burner. And I still find Gallerist the best Lacerda game 😊
DIdn't think this game was a difficult as it was made out to be(not just by you guys to be fair). Surely it IS heavy and requires the rules to be read and then re-read. But after one mistake filled game, we got through game 2 with hardly any issues or rule checks. I just think there is much heavier stuff out there, and I think Lisboa is harder to learn. NPI being seasoned board game vets I was surprised they struggled with it. Those 18xx games they just reviewed are more complex then this. Just me. My point is: Give this game a shot, it's worth it!
Another fantastic review! This one would not be my cup of tea, but you still made it look quite fascinating. I think my brainy capacity isn't much beyond Tiny Epic Galaxies when it comes to colonization games. This video, the Essen games one, and the Foodchain Magnate one were all absolutely top tier.
I LOVE the look of this game! But experience has taught me anything this complex (above about 3.5 on bgg) makes me cranky like a 3 year old in need of his nap, and none of my gaming group will want to play it. So ill keep my bank account looking a little healthier on this one I think. Great review.
Excellent video and audio quality in this video. Crisp, is the word that sums it up. Plus top notch delivery of the content. Thank you very much for your review. Will NOT add this to my pledge manager when buying into Kanban EV (Upcoming review for that one perhaps?? ;-) )
Another step up in production quality! Awesome work from both of you! In the past month I've had my first plays of both this and Lisboa. Gotta say I prefer the latter. With the advanced facilities and scientists On Mars started to be a bit too much. Still, if someone suggested a game of it, I wouldn't skip a beat to jump in :)
Played it once. Didn’t have fun at all. Decided to not spend working hours trying to find out, if it probably could be enjoyable one day. The rocket mechanism/worker return thing alone was counterintuitive and made me angry. It also didn’t felt thematic to me, when I pushed up this scale with the white wood piece thing and those colored tiles on the right board side.
Thanks for the excellent review. I can’t believe I’m the first to ask where you got the lovey component trays matching the resource colours. Gawd I’m a suck for this sort of thing. You guys really are upping your game here. Nice one.
I'm a Vital fan for the most part and play heavier games. I played it 4 times and just got frustrated with all the rule exceptions... Take that for what it's worth.
I'm guessing you guys got a new camera 📷. Those crisp shots and composition make me more immersed in the video! Keep up the good work! The video made me pretty lost as the game seemed way too crazy and huge but as always, enjoyed your dive into it!
We haven't upgraded our cameras since... two years ago? I think the first video we shot with this camera was High Society. Just constant learning and the luxury of having Elaine working full time now.
This is your best video yet. I like that you don't just say a binary GOOD/BAD and instead clearly define who the target audience is. Your production keeps getting better and better!
Hey the tumbnail has it's title blocked out by the time. So it just says it's bad. And then there's no title card to find out what the complete sentence was.
Thank your for a great review. I was looking into this game, because I love thematic euros (Terraforming Mars is favorite in my family), but also I kind of want something less involved lately. Sadly, I just don't have enough time and patience to learn and play such an extensive game.
Cool, I played it once & it does give you that experience, that whatever you play later, no matter how complex - will always feel less complex than On Mars. I lover Lacerda games, I just stay on Earth.
On Mars was the second Lacerda game I played, the first being Lisboa. This may sound weird, but I feel that On Mars made a lot more sense than Lisboa in terms of grasping the rules and understanding the why and how of applying them. With that being said, On Mars is in a weird state of flux in my opinion-space after playing The Gallerist, and I'm not jumping to play On Mars anymore despite it being a pretty darn "quick" Lacerda game. On Mars feels messy at times and while I won't turn down a game of it, I'm not asking for it as my first choice. The more I play it, the less certain I am that I love it, and the less certain I am that I really understand what makes it tick. There are a lot of systems at play and I wonder if it'll hit a stride for me or if it will become a game that continues to feel a bit messy. I want to add that I feel that the Concordia comparison is a bit odd. I love Concordia, I will never sell my copy, but I find them to be highly different games. Both about efficiency of limited actions and managing resources appropriately, but On Mars is significantly more interactive, for better or worse. Concordia has some interactivity in the card market and vying for space on the map, but with On Mars every action feels dire. Anyway, great review as always, I don't know if there's a better board gaming RUclips channel.
I guess I'm weird. I held off from Lacerda games until the last year. I mean, they're so COMPLICATED, right? But then I finally said "okay" when a friend (who buys all the Lacerdas) brought Vinhos (2016). It took a while to teach and to play. But I won. And I had a great time. And once the teaching was over, I didn't find it all that complicated at all. In fact, I found it less complicated than most "medium+" weight games I played. We went on to play Lisboa, The Gallerist (twice), Escape Plan (twice) and finally On Mars. Each time this cycle repeated. Super complicated teaching, thinking "how the heck do I get started", but then about 30 minutes in it started to sing. And I was good at it! Of those seven games played, I won every single one except the two plays of The Gallerist. And I still enjoyed that game and really want to play it again. And this is against players who are not slouches in any way. Often these are players that trounce me in other games. On Mars was fantastic. Yes, it took us about 5 hours with the setup and teaching. But every turn, I was eager for my NEXT turn. I was always thinking about my grand plans. Sure, I had to unwind a few turns due to doing things wrong, but it wasn't too annoying as a learning game. It just hummed along. Again, for *my* brain, these games just click into place. They are far simpler and less stressful for *me* to play than Concordia, Agricola/Caverna, Great Western Trail, Terra Mystica, Brass, Scythe, etc. I'm just so lucky I don't have to pay for all them. :)
I'd like to try a Lacerda game, and _Escape Plan_ sounds like a good entry point, since it's supposedly less complex than his others, and I like the theme. But I'm just not sure it's worth ~$120, especially as a 2-player game.
For what it's worth, we didn't get on with Escape Plan. Purely from a thematic standpoint it promises you a getaway and then puts you in charge of planning your route on google maps for two hours. The Gallerist is a touch more complex but much more rewarding and dynamic.
@@NoPunIncluded - Ahh, thanks for the tip! I've also heard that _Escape Plan_ is too luck-based, when it comes down to seeing which lockers your key will unlock (or something to that effect).
I've got; Gallerist, Lisboa, On Mars, Escape Plan, and Vinhos. Gallerist was the one that drew me in, and it is probably the most accessible, but Lisboa or On Mars are my favorites. I like Escape Plan a lot partially because poor planning can cause you to fail to finish. Vinhos didn't click with me.
I agree that The Gallerist is a good entry point. Kanban is perhaps a bit more straightforward, but I think a little less forgiving. Escape Plan is really a different style of game.
@@Grumplestitskin - Does Escape Plan have a lot of luck? I read a review saying that (about the keys & lockers, I think). I've heard Kanban is really good, but the theme (building & testing race cars, right?) doesn't really interest me.
I always thought the idea that euros lacked interaction and tension was...not really what euros are actually about. Euros tend to be hyper-cutthroat, just not like a fist to the face.
Agreed. Funnily enough considering it was mentioned in this review I played a game of Agricola recently - I think it’s fair to consider that a very Euro-y Euro. It is still absolutely cut-throat, because of the way the worker placement spots work - like the resources building up over time. I lost a game I played because another player took the 5 Stone from the stone spot on the 13th round of the game. I had played the profession that would have allowed me to upgrade my wooden hut into a stone hut, without needing to go through clay first. Renovating my hut to stone would have been an 8 point play for me; all I needed was the stone itself. Another player saw that, and took it from me. Just because we aren’t rolling dice and knocking over minis, doesn’t make Euros any less cut-throat. And this is coming from someone who loves rolling dice and knocking over minis!
Ouchy! Bought Terraforming Mars (LOVE IT!). Bought First Martians (UNPLAYABLE!). Dodged On Mars (THANK HEAVENS TO BETSY!). I enjoy Vinhos, but that's as Vital as I'll go... Awesome video - forget the camera quality and haircuts - I tune in for the white knee ;) Thanks E&E. X
Oh Efka. You set up the circle of farts and missed the opportunity to land it with a “i fart in your general direction” reference when someone gives you a “fart” for using your tech. Tsk. Loved the video. Love the game. Keep it up guys.
Both of you are so charismatic. And you have such a subtle sense of humor. Despite your warning I bought the game. I hope if my brain explodes, you won 't get splattered (because Russia is too far away from you)...
I really want to pick up this game as it looks amazing. Sadly I think this is far too complex for my usual gaming group. Aesthetically On Mars is probably my favourite of the various recent Mars themed games with Mission: Red Planet coming in a close second.
Lacerda at his worst and most unrestrained. He needed a developer on this one. I didn't hate it, but didn't feel like I got enough out of it for the insanely long teach and setup times.
Fewwwf! I'm exhausted just watching that review! It looks way too complicated and, knowing my game group, will never get played. Which is why I just bought it. Obviously! Because, like actually settling On Mars, it will probably never happen in my lifetime. But, if the right sequence of events takes place, maybe it will. And I don't want to miss that opportunity, no matter how unlikely.
This game looks great! Moon meeples! I tried to understand the game but it was like listening to Chinese to my English speaking ears. I did enjoy the circle of farts!!! Lol Way too complex and fiddly for me. You guys are great I love your channel and humor. Also, moon meeples!
We got to play a demo of On Mars with Vital Lacerda at Essen Spiel 2019 and we were sold on it immediately. But then we own Lisboa, The Gallerist and CO2, so maybe we're just closet masochists.
elaine! bessie! together with efka at last! how happy they are. but on mars? nah. fresh and clean with the future bright ahead, oh 2020, you silly year.
This game looks good etc. but at what point you can apply the phrase "It's so complicated you could have made it in a videogame" i bet this would be a nightmare to explain to my friends.
Thanks for the shout out!
Is this really Matt Damon?
Thats pretty cool!
Does Matt Damon play board games?
@@maximilliansantiago5208 If Matt Damon plays a boardgame in Mars, can anyone hear him scream?
@@Heldermaior When he plays "on mars", then it is depending:
- yes if he is on mars
- no when he is in orbit (no athmosphere) :P
The game does have a "Martian Potato Survival" mode
The first 5 seconds is really all you need to know.
This made me want to watch the review more. Not because I want a complex game, I don't, but I wanted to know just how deep this rabbit hole would be.
Edwin speaks the truth!
Let's talk about how amazing these haircuts are!!!
I was going to make the same point! Elaine's new bob looks so great on her and Efka's trim is pretty fly, too.
They are very amazing.
Nottingham must have some great hairdressers!
100% my reaction upon starting the video
Right?!
I know for a fact this game would take the top of my head off, seal it in a capsule, fly it to Mars and then shoot it straight into the sun. Very much appreciate the wonderful production quality of this video though!
Wow, spot on! I generally like this game (played twice) but that shuttle mechanism is brutal and if you make a couple of timing mistakes, you'll end up outside the dome gasping for air. Unforgiving.
You guys look great in this review!
Are these two married? Cause Efka doesn't wear a ring
@@pipos193 who cares if they're married or not. I care about the quality content they pour out.
@@TheShapingSickness ..and I don't? I am just asking out of curiosity, I watched way too many Game Night! episodes before learning that two of the players are married.
@@pipos193 I bet it's Lincoln and Nikki.
Just kidding, it's obviously Lincoln and Dave.
@@danpsou no it's not Lin... of course it's Lincoln and Nikki!
I love the look of this game-all the colorful components, the art, the table presence-but I think if I ever tried to play it, my head would explode. :)
beard looking good, my man. glad to see you look happier and healthier overall! thanks for all your dope content!
Some really lovely photography in this one!
You've done it again! Dare I say: perhaps NPI is beginning a golden age of reviews?
you're late to the party :D
Thank you. Lisboa may be harder to learn but that doesn't make it more complicated to play.
Regarding the stalemate you mentioned near the end; it's not necessary to have the technology to build complexes in order to advance the colony. You can build a lone building if it's exactly 2 tiles away from a matching tile. So in theory it's possible to level up the colony the whole way with no complex technology in play.
P.S.: Good review though!
I sold _Lisboa_ and kept this because - yes, it is heavier, but the theme is more interesting and the mechanisms more interconnected. So I find it easier to teach than "over here is the bishop, he gives you bonus tiles and sometimes changes the economy" etc.
The color in your videos keeps getting more and more full and saturated, and I'm loving it. Keep up the good work!
Two things. 1) I just bought this and it's my first Vital Lacerda game. Everybody told me not to buy it. They said it's too complicated. They said I'll be frustrated. They said Gallerist would be better. I don't care and I can't wait for it to get here after watching this video! :D 2) I just watched this and it's my first No Pun Included video. Loved everything about it. The camera work. The editing. The playful banter. Thank you for not fading to black in the first 45 seconds!
Welcome! So glad you enjoyed the vid. If you're into Lacerda games, our review of Kanban is some of my proudest work (Efka).
Wow, another stellar review by NPI. I feel you really captured the full extent of what makes On Mars interesting, dynamic, and different despite it's complexity. And the comparison to Concordia seems really apt. Thanks for the work and effort you put into it -- definitely the most informative and useful review of the game I've yet seen!
Your videos just keep getting better and better, great insightful and thoughtful review, keep up the good work! Plus the lighting and editing was top notch.
New to this channel and I love the two of you already 😂❤️. I’ve been delving too much lately on channels that showcased lots of board game scales easy, intermediate and heavy and plethora of titles. Just got so overwhelmed and excited and your video is like breath of fresh air with the entertainment value sprinkled in it 😆👍.
Easily the most engaging, funny and insightful reviews of boardgames on RUclips.
Absolutely love this. This is the only 3 hour game I've ever played that immediately makes me want to play again. You think you know how to improve your play, jump into a new round and it's just a different game altogether and you're STILL left wondering why none of your plans line up.
Shameless fanboying aside, completely agreed on the first 10 seconds of this video. If a 4.5 weight Lacerda game sounds like a good time to you, get this. Otherwise, probably stay away or try some of this other offerings first. I'd recommend Vinhos Deluxe for that, it was my entry point and still feels like the most accessible.
I suspect this post is more to brag about how smart you are than anything else..
@@AbeBSea you'd suspect wrong
Love your videos, and love the “guarded recommendation” for this game. I watched the video from start to finish, and have enjoyed other Lacerda games, so I suppose I’ll just have to start saving my money now...
4:10 dude this transition is insane
Just from the beginning of the explanation it was brutal.
Recently discovered your channel really enjoy the reviews. Thanks for making them.
The new camera is so damn good!!!! You're videos reached next level!! Thank you for your effort
Great to see Elaine back, and great to see you guys back to euro mammoths business! Awesome to see somebody not afraid of Master Vital's work 😋 Just to add, if this guy who just have finished Agricola wants to try Lacerda... perhaps s/he should start with Vinhos first ^^' I think it is the most approachable of all his heavy euro games. On Mars can wait for later. Albeit, not sure how well you can play such a demanding game without both of your kidneys...
On a side note, I would say Lisboa, with their clunky building mechanisms, is indeed a bigger brain burner. And I still find Gallerist the best Lacerda game 😊
Even if it's a heavy game, once it's running, the choices are not as much as you thought. My group enjoyed this so much!
DIdn't think this game was a difficult as it was made out to be(not just by you guys to be fair). Surely it IS heavy and requires the rules to be read and then re-read. But after one mistake filled game, we got through game 2 with hardly any issues or rule checks. I just think there is much heavier stuff out there, and I think Lisboa is harder to learn. NPI being seasoned board game vets I was surprised they struggled with it. Those 18xx games they just reviewed are more complex then this. Just me. My point is: Give this game a shot, it's worth it!
Another fantastic review! This one would not be my cup of tea, but you still made it look quite fascinating. I think my brainy capacity isn't much beyond Tiny Epic Galaxies when it comes to colonization games. This video, the Essen games one, and the Foodchain Magnate one were all absolutely top tier.
I had placed this game on my "for sale" pile but rewatching this review made me change my mind. Maybe I'll just play it solo after all.
"So what is it about the surface of this planet that has such a gravitational pull." Mass. It is mass.
I LOVE the look of this game! But experience has taught me anything this complex (above about 3.5 on bgg) makes me cranky like a 3 year old in need of his nap, and none of my gaming group will want to play it. So ill keep my bank account looking a little healthier on this one I think. Great review.
Another great review Efka and Elaine! Awesome stuff!
Your game criticism has gone up to 11. I'm really enjoying your insights in a whole new way (not to mention your comedic timing and production!).
Excellent video and audio quality in this video. Crisp, is the word that sums it up. Plus top notch delivery of the content. Thank you very much for your review. Will NOT add this to my pledge manager when buying into Kanban EV (Upcoming review for that one perhaps?? ;-) )
Another step up in production quality! Awesome work from both of you! In the past month I've had my first plays of both this and Lisboa. Gotta say I prefer the latter. With the advanced facilities and scientists On Mars started to be a bit too much. Still, if someone suggested a game of it, I wouldn't skip a beat to jump in :)
Played it once. Didn’t have fun at all. Decided to not spend working hours trying to find out, if it probably could be enjoyable one day. The rocket mechanism/worker return thing alone was counterintuitive and made me angry. It also didn’t felt thematic to me, when I pushed up this scale with the white wood piece thing and those colored tiles on the right board side.
I wish I had the table space for this game...looks great.
Thanks for the excellent review. I can’t believe I’m the first to ask where you got the lovey component trays matching the resource colours. Gawd I’m a suck for this sort of thing. You guys really are upping your game here. Nice one.
You're by far not the first. They're from the BGG Store.
I'm a Vital fan for the most part and play heavier games. I played it 4 times and just got frustrated with all the rule exceptions... Take that for what it's worth.
I don't think you're alone there.
I'm guessing you guys got a new camera 📷. Those crisp shots and composition make me more immersed in the video! Keep up the good work! The video made me pretty lost as the game seemed way too crazy and huge but as always, enjoyed your dive into it!
We haven't upgraded our cameras since... two years ago? I think the first video we shot with this camera was High Society. Just constant learning and the luxury of having Elaine working full time now.
@@NoPunIncluded the lighting was boss!
Well, the work shows and the video *shines*
This is your best video yet. I like that you don't just say a binary GOOD/BAD and instead clearly define who the target audience is.
Your production keeps getting better and better!
Hey the tumbnail has it's title blocked out by the time. So it just says it's bad. And then there's no title card to find out what the complete sentence was.
I just ordered this. A great crunchy euro, this will satiate my cravings for worker placement and meeples, and I thought A Feast For Odin was complex.
Thank your for a great review. I was looking into this game, because I love thematic euros (Terraforming Mars is favorite in my family), but also I kind of want something less involved lately. Sadly, I just don't have enough time and patience to learn and play such an extensive game.
15:35 oh but wait, soon it will be cooperative! Lacerda is making an expansion for it - Surviving Mars
If the first 25 seconds were the entire review I would have loved you forever 😂
But I would have wanted the entire thing the next day.
Cool, I played it once & it does give you that experience, that whatever you play later, no matter how complex - will always feel less complex than On Mars. I lover Lacerda games, I just stay on Earth.
On Mars was the second Lacerda game I played, the first being Lisboa. This may sound weird, but I feel that On Mars made a lot more sense than Lisboa in terms of grasping the rules and understanding the why and how of applying them. With that being said, On Mars is in a weird state of flux in my opinion-space after playing The Gallerist, and I'm not jumping to play On Mars anymore despite it being a pretty darn "quick" Lacerda game. On Mars feels messy at times and while I won't turn down a game of it, I'm not asking for it as my first choice. The more I play it, the less certain I am that I love it, and the less certain I am that I really understand what makes it tick. There are a lot of systems at play and I wonder if it'll hit a stride for me or if it will become a game that continues to feel a bit messy.
I want to add that I feel that the Concordia comparison is a bit odd. I love Concordia, I will never sell my copy, but I find them to be highly different games. Both about efficiency of limited actions and managing resources appropriately, but On Mars is significantly more interactive, for better or worse. Concordia has some interactivity in the card market and vying for space on the map, but with On Mars every action feels dire.
Anyway, great review as always, I don't know if there's a better board gaming RUclips channel.
I guess I'm weird. I held off from Lacerda games until the last year. I mean, they're so COMPLICATED, right? But then I finally said "okay" when a friend (who buys all the Lacerdas) brought Vinhos (2016). It took a while to teach and to play. But I won. And I had a great time. And once the teaching was over, I didn't find it all that complicated at all. In fact, I found it less complicated than most "medium+" weight games I played.
We went on to play Lisboa, The Gallerist (twice), Escape Plan (twice) and finally On Mars. Each time this cycle repeated. Super complicated teaching, thinking "how the heck do I get started", but then about 30 minutes in it started to sing. And I was good at it! Of those seven games played, I won every single one except the two plays of The Gallerist. And I still enjoyed that game and really want to play it again. And this is against players who are not slouches in any way. Often these are players that trounce me in other games.
On Mars was fantastic. Yes, it took us about 5 hours with the setup and teaching. But every turn, I was eager for my NEXT turn. I was always thinking about my grand plans. Sure, I had to unwind a few turns due to doing things wrong, but it wasn't too annoying as a learning game. It just hummed along.
Again, for *my* brain, these games just click into place. They are far simpler and less stressful for *me* to play than Concordia, Agricola/Caverna, Great Western Trail, Terra Mystica, Brass, Scythe, etc. I'm just so lucky I don't have to pay for all them. :)
Every time you show the box on the table, I think "Damn, that's a huge box! "
I'd like to try a Lacerda game, and _Escape Plan_ sounds like a good entry point, since it's supposedly less complex than his others, and I like the theme. But I'm just not sure it's worth ~$120, especially as a 2-player game.
For what it's worth, we didn't get on with Escape Plan. Purely from a thematic standpoint it promises you a getaway and then puts you in charge of planning your route on google maps for two hours. The Gallerist is a touch more complex but much more rewarding and dynamic.
@@NoPunIncluded - Ahh, thanks for the tip! I've also heard that _Escape Plan_ is too luck-based, when it comes down to seeing which lockers your key will unlock (or something to that effect).
I've got; Gallerist, Lisboa, On Mars, Escape Plan, and Vinhos. Gallerist was the one that drew me in, and it is probably the most accessible, but Lisboa or On Mars are my favorites. I like Escape Plan a lot partially because poor planning can cause you to fail to finish. Vinhos didn't click with me.
I agree that The Gallerist is a good entry point. Kanban is perhaps a bit more straightforward, but I think a little less forgiving. Escape Plan is really a different style of game.
@@Grumplestitskin - Does Escape Plan have a lot of luck? I read a review saying that (about the keys & lockers, I think). I've heard Kanban is really good, but the theme (building & testing race cars, right?) doesn't really interest me.
Congrats. The best opening to date on any review to date.
I always thought the idea that euros lacked interaction and tension was...not really what euros are actually about. Euros tend to be hyper-cutthroat, just not like a fist to the face.
Agreed. Funnily enough considering it was mentioned in this review I played a game of Agricola recently - I think it’s fair to consider that a very Euro-y Euro. It is still absolutely cut-throat, because of the way the worker placement spots work - like the resources building up over time. I lost a game I played because another player took the 5 Stone from the stone spot on the 13th round of the game. I had played the profession that would have allowed me to upgrade my wooden hut into a stone hut, without needing to go through clay first. Renovating my hut to stone would have been an 8 point play for me; all I needed was the stone itself. Another player saw that, and took it from me.
Just because we aren’t rolling dice and knocking over minis, doesn’t make Euros any less cut-throat. And this is coming from someone who loves rolling dice and knocking over minis!
For box size reference, always use Elaine.
Ouchy! Bought Terraforming Mars (LOVE IT!). Bought First Martians (UNPLAYABLE!). Dodged On Mars (THANK HEAVENS TO BETSY!). I enjoy Vinhos, but that's as Vital as I'll go...
Awesome video - forget the camera quality and haircuts - I tune in for the white knee ;) Thanks E&E. X
Nice look, Elaine :)
Oh Efka. You set up the circle of farts and missed the opportunity to land it with a “i fart in your general direction” reference when someone gives you a “fart” for using your tech. Tsk. Loved the video. Love the game. Keep it up guys.
Both of you are so charismatic. And you have such a subtle sense of humor. Despite your warning I bought the game. I hope if my brain explodes, you won 't get splattered (because Russia is too far away from you)...
You guys are awesome. Best BG content creators!
Actually LOL'd at the intro. Great review, ya'll!
Did you guys get makeovers? Looking good!
Great Job ! Thanks for the in depth analysis of this very deep game.
If you think this is complex, try High Frontier, 1 look at the board is enough to scare most people
I really want to pick up this game as it looks amazing. Sadly I think this is far too complex for my usual gaming group.
Aesthetically On Mars is probably my favourite of the various recent Mars themed games with Mission: Red Planet coming in a close second.
automatic english captions: "it's the equivalent of mr. lizard asking you tu run when you've only just learnt to put on your own diaper"
This is the greatest board game review humanity has ever made
Oh, the puppy has grown so much! Still cute, but not ridiculously cute like before. I guess that can be said for all of us as we grow up?
I agree, worth the investment if you care to make it. I have hard time separating the theme and mechanisms in this one.
Great review as always! If you mind sharing, what camera do you use?
Best 30 seconds review EVER!
That's what s-
What camera and mic are you guys using to make this great videos? Production and environment is really great
Great to see Elaine again. The new guy does good reviews. Who is he?
NPI: On Mars is as complex as board games get
High Frontier: Hold my beer.
It’s heavy but once you play it and understand the game, it is very thematic and every step makes sense.
Was that Ameritrash/euro doohickey from Wavelength?
Yes!
@@NoPunIncluded you sly dogs!
Love the Wavelength shoutout
The one-sentence review is pretty much perfect.
Lacerda at his worst and most unrestrained. He needed a developer on this one.
I didn't hate it, but didn't feel like I got enough out of it for the insanely long teach and setup times.
Great review ;) Always entertaining
Fewwwf!
I'm exhausted just watching that review! It looks way too complicated and, knowing my game group, will never get played.
Which is why I just bought it.
Obviously!
Because, like actually settling On Mars, it will probably never happen in my lifetime. But, if the right sequence of events takes place, maybe it will. And I don't want to miss that opportunity, no matter how unlikely.
I love this game. Every time I play it I love it a bit more. But yeah it really isn't for everyone.
As usual, great work.
Great content, as usual! Keep up the good work!
Love the channel. Love the game. Great review!
No Pun Included are:
A. Hilarious
B.Adorable
C. Inspired
D. All of the above
D
Could Matt Damon read the rule book on the Calm Ap? I feel like a reading of this rule book might help me sleep.
That incidental music is 💯
I have nothing valuable to say here. Just punching up the algo.
same here.
Can I just say how great you both look? Cause you both lookin' great!
Top review guys! Another game ill be avoiding like the plague...wait
This game looks great! Moon meeples! I tried to understand the game but it was like listening to Chinese to my English speaking ears. I did enjoy the circle of farts!!! Lol
Way too complex and fiddly for me.
You guys are great I love your channel and humor. Also, moon meeples!
Nice wavelength reference
I am in the 95%
Did you use the red plastic cover as a filter for when you said “angrrrryyyyyy”?
Shhhhh... Don't give away my secrets 😉
We got to play a demo of On Mars with Vital Lacerda at Essen Spiel 2019 and we were sold on it immediately. But then we own Lisboa, The Gallerist and CO2, so maybe we're just closet masochists.
Reggie1408 I’d suggest CO2 Second Chance. It has a cooperative mode, and you’re working against ever-escalating odds. Welcome to the Lacerda-verse.
elaine! bessie! together with efka at last! how happy they are. but on mars? nah. fresh and clean with the future bright ahead, oh 2020, you silly year.
This game looks good etc. but at what point you can apply the phrase "It's so complicated you could have made it in a videogame" i bet this would be a nightmare to explain to my friends.
You have yet to play coin war games. Ey Efka? 😀