Friday Freakout: No Tracking, Skydiver Collides With Parachute In Freefall
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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** What happened **
During a belly jump with an unknown number of people, one jumper - who made it into the formation - went to pull after not tracking. Another individual - who went low and also didn’t track - deployed while underneath the rest of the group. The first jumper fell through the second jumper’s canopy, blowing out a few cells and requiring a cutaway.
** Why did it happen **
Poor tracking
Both jumpers did a poor job tracking. The first jumper - the one who made it into the formation - watched everyone else leave the formation and appears to not move at all. The second jumper - the one who went low - spun a few times but never seems to realize that he needs to track away from the jumpers above him.
Inadequate level control
The second jumper wasn’t able to stay with the group on a relatively basic belly jump. Staying on level is a skill every jumper should have before joining larger groups.
** How could it be prevented **
Group size
The skill levels exhibited by both these individuals suggests that this jump was too large. More knowledgeable jumpers should have broken the jump into smaller groups. By placing multiple inexperienced skydivers onto a single jump, the potential for a dangerous situation was increased significantly.
Training
Both of the major issues with this jump - poor tracking and inadequate level control - are skills that a jumper should be relatively familiar with prior to getting their license and, certainly, before attempting larger group jumps. If a jumper is unable to grasp these concepts, they should continue getting coaching before getting cleared to do group jumps.
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Dude is out side the formation, does a 720 spin, and then tracks 2 seconds underneath the formation and pulls.... Genius.
This one is so bad it made me start laughing. Spinning base, major level issues, terrible tracking, dumping under a formation, not clearing your airspace. Just wow.
LODI!!! JK this isn't lodi but similar lol
No wave
Definately too big group for the skill level. And if you go horribly low, track away (from line of flight)
like your life depended on it.
@@alterthough I know it's a popular strategy, but I'm not really a fan of the 'gone horribly low, track away and keep tracking' plan. If you do that, now nobody knows where you are and the other people are relying on your tracking skills and heading awareness to guarantee that you will be nowhere near your group (or anyone else's) when they come to break off and deploy themselves.
If you overshoot or can't stay up with the base, chances are your tracking skills are not all that hot either. I've seen so many people who dive when they think they're tracking that I'd be afraid if they start 'tracking' after going low, then mainly what they're doing is putting even more vertical distance between themselves and the other members of the group, and making themselves less visible.
I'd prefer for people to have gone low to spend the rest of the dive if necessary, all the way to the agreed break-off height, staying in close proximity and working to get back up. If they haven't managed it before break-off, then they turn and track with everyone else.
Other than what you mentioned...the skydive was grrrrrrreat.
In Russia, the sky dives you!!
These guys should not be jumping as a group. can't even hold a heading. I did like the AN2 though!
This guys should not jump. Dot, thats enough.
Here's I filmed an AN-2 and clouds ruclips.net/video/JwglVt-NjKE/видео.html
Nice plane.
The very exit showed a promise of a great zoo dive
Seriously
They had a story to tell in the bar afterwards, but they were inches away from a double fatality
Perfect example of "if you sink and can't get up just track for your life"
Questions you didnt think you needed to include on an A license test.
True/False: Spinning and Tracking are not the same.
True/False: Spinning will get you proper distance from a group to pull.
True/False: Pulling under a group is fine. The group will track away from you.
True/False: Pull at a lower altitude than the parachutes below you.
True/False: Your Russia comrade will provide proper cushion. Parachute not necessary.
I heard kurwa, which is a polish word. Don’t think it is from Russia. But kurwa might be a word of neighbor countries too. Not Russian anyway.
@@ErsanYolcu Nope this is not Polish (I'm from Poland)
@Ersan Yolcu
The guy said in russian: "ebat' vy tam otkryvalis' konechno". He was shocked about his teammates, how they pulled up main. In English it is hard to transtate, but I will try: "Wow fuck, is it the way you open up"
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*turning
I thought he handled the line twists ok. That’s my - if you can’t say something good about it don’t say anything at all statement
Cool plane, hard to dock on a rotating base. Who needs to track anyway.
Yeah that left knee did not want to stop digging in. Zero body awareness
come on, its hard to maintain a smooth rotation like that, it was all part of the plan
Sweet opening ) doing skydive in Russian way. Some say in Chalyabinsk they jump with a metal canopies )
m̶e̶t̶a̶l̶ stalinium™ canopies!
Chelyabinsk skydivers jump with reserve iron kettlebells.
Seriously?! I didn’t know they also made them out of metal too, that’s crazy! But wait, wouldn’t using a metal parachute canopy be too heavy and not be able to open up like regular fabric ones though?
@@bskee001 it’s a ultralight “Sputnik” type of metal. Forged in Russia.
@@ES-iv6wb Really?! That’s amazing!!!
Lol, yes, I know you were being sarcastic, I was also totally kidding in my initial response.
This almost happened to me a month ago. I pitched & just as the canopy opened, I saw another jumper track right past me less than 50 feet away.... so scary
That's not almost. That's just doing a fly-by.
Simples.........if you can't stay level with the group or join the formation within an agreed height for whatever reason, then get away as quickly as possible in a 'straight feckin line'. Forget about staying where you are or practising your turns or perfecting whatever comes into your head.........just select a safe heading and track as far away as possible into your own tube before pulling and walk home alive.
As soon as I saw Russian text in the airplane I knew it would be brutal...
These crazy mfers can't drive and apparently can't fly. I wonder how they became the global force that they are
@@djangoworldwide7925 hey dude quit the nazi shit will ya? nice day to you.
🤣🤣
Hahaha
@@djangoworldwide7925 vodka und balalaika make us stronger
What hell is gonne wrong with the load organizer? And why they are all at the exact same spot?
It was the same group.
The bus conducter said it was ending station 😂😂😂
@@fujimatosa Yup, and just after opening the door and ringing the bell, he yelled : "The last one down is a sissy !"
I don't know much about skydiving, but that looked bloody dangerous, not to mention expensive.
Well, they got a two way out of it, anyway.
I thought it looked Russian, then I heard the voice to confirm it 🤦🏾♂️😂
So many things went wrong on that jump, yikes.
Слабоумие и отвага...! Они делали все что бы убраться, но что то пошло не так.
I loved the slow mo of the cutaway handle getting tossed off to wherever. As if dude hadn’t yet lost enough money on the skydive. I bet camera one guy got some line burns. Seriously, glad it all turned out okay. That could easily have resulted in double fatality.
I’m surprised he knew his emergency procedures 😅
So much wrong in one video. Throwing his cut-away handle immediately was a nice touch. Was he sobbing during the line twists? lol
Throwing away the cutaway handle is standard procedure in some places, including Russia. They justify it as follows: that way you free your hands and do not have an extra couple of strings whipping around trying to get into your lines.
Massive cluster f. The whole squad was deploying on top of each other. Look how close the mix of canopies and jumpers still in freefall are @1.45. Only a matter of time.
Well that's a big yikes if I've ever seen one
I had NO idea what happened till I saw the slo-mo. WOW!
i freeze frame it. he had his hand on top of the parachute..
Its like 12 solo's all decided on the plane - "Hey; lets just do a 12 way"
That coulda been so much worse, lucky he only hit the edge cells.
I feel bad for the parachute it looks like it tore with some broken lines.
So so lucky
The standard of ability from start to finish is fucking scary.
Track dude! To the right direction!
At 2:32 , The Colliding skydiver screams '' NoOoooOoOoO'' haha.
Lucky he turned out.
After watching this again, who organizes something like this? In past experience, there are always going to be people on inexperienced jumps, but we always make sure they're smiled enough for the jump they're making. And to be perfectly honest, there are always exceptions, like being too busy to notice, but still not an excuse. I see no reason for a 6-7 way when the linked base can't even keep a God damn heading. What a nightmare. Nice plane tho! F that!
very nice friday freakout, that is some good freaky shit yeah
Russian roulette dive ?. No sure if I will be organizing that lol
That's like 100 times the kinetic energy of a .50BMG round.
А отцепка это рядовое..У меня их около 150,потом перестал считать Купольная...
Да, у вас там всё ни как у людей :)
I had to read ALL the comments on this one 🤣
Not waving to warn others you are about to let go of your main is going to kill someone. Don’t forget the basics! They are there for a reason.
Reminds me of a jump me and friend asked to others to join. Simple 4 way accordion linked exit, went over what to do if exit went crap/ everyone go to the lowest man. Neither of them let go of my chest strap after they caused all of use to be bundled up. Finally got them to let go and lowest dude starts doing backflips like a complete douche. Ruined the jump and was extremely dangerous. I hounded on the guys pretty good and one of them almost started crying. Felt bad but at the drop zone I go to it’s busy and stupidity just can’t be tolerated
so glad no one died.
Он сказал блиааать...
My nightmare. Glad everyone landed safelty
And he tossed his handles.....
It seems like a lot of reserve deployments end up with line twist. Is that a fair assumption?
Moves skydiver with twist on reserve absolutely right. Needs forced turn in other side. I don't see it more videos with cutaway twists main chute
Green/Gray guy was at fault in my opinion. Sure, the other guy didn't track, or look below himself....green/gray still carries more burden due to going low and getting under the base.
spinning base... twice not to mention the potato-chipping. And that reserve deployment is exactly the reason I will leave my skyhook disconnected... when I deploy my reserve it will be from a stable position when possible, not from a spin caused by a malfunctioning main.
Never sacrifice altitude for stability. Remember that one?
It was the old fashion jump, practiced in eastern countries before in 80s, 90s. The rule is just one, all out. And was not very uncommon. That's why no jump master, no load organizer, no formation organizer, no section organizer. All this things, that became common in recent years. Merely the accuracy was jumped and occasionally the jumps like this. Who comes near, to formation, comes, and who not, not. Usually the base was formed with the heaviest and weakest by knowledge, ones. Seen his and jumped like this before.
line twist on a reserve is some scary ass S&%#. i ain't lyin...
Would waiting for a stable position, belly-to-earth position give more chance to have no twisting?
@@YannCamusBlissClimbing that would be preferable however, rule # 1 is pull the ripcord. if you are aware of your altitude then flat and stable is ideal.
most people have an rsl which deploys the reserve when you cut away. that is why i have never used one.
@@sharkair2839 Thanks for the reply!!
@@sharkair2839 Yea interesting!!
о ....уже и тут прославились ))) ..... ни волнуйтесь ....все распистяи живы и здоровы , хорошо я этот бардак уже с земли наблюдал )))
Как так получилось ?
@@nortops9992 один низко открываться стал , другой рано , плюс разбежка слабая ....
@@sergsh5081 нда....хорошо хоть , что все выжили
Yellow AN-2 - lakes on the ground - DZ Starodub Bryansk Russia??
Yes it is
And he lost his handles. HAHAHHAH
The jump ain't over until you : track, deploy, fly & land the parachute CORRECTLY.
Holy moly !! Maybe he thought he living the dream!!
Lol how is your comment a month old when it was released 15 hours ago ?!?!
situational awareness
Well, on the positive side... BEER!!!
They just play Interstellar docking scene 😂
The offender lost his cut away handle as well.
кто вас в небо выпустил?
Типичный зоопарк.
Давно такого зоопарка не видел... Ждал, что после отцепки, влетит в нижнего...
Ну хоть долго не думал .
Everything was wrong in this jump. Lol
they just got FS to a next level - spinning base by default and nobody track away. FS for brave and tough ones
I love how he kept kicking to get his chute straight.
When I see people stop while they're making progress, I have no idea what the fuck they're thinking..
How could you stop? You were untwisting it so well, making great progress, how could you possibly quit while you're ahead?
This dude didn't but he only had a few twists
But I've seen people with 15 twists stop making progress after 3, stop even trying to make progress..
I'll never understand that
It’s possible they reached their decision altitude for their emergency procedures. Although that altitude can be different for different people, we don’t mess around with malfunctions any lower than that decision altitude. You should applaud those people for their discipline.
Seems like we put too much emphasis on jump numbers and not enough on actual skill level. Neither of those jumpers should be flying a camera let alone jumping in large formations.
That will definitely ruffle your jump suit.
They tried but it wasn’t their time yet.....
I have no desire to skydive. But I must say part of me wants to. I get anxiety watching these videos. And I can't stop watching.
Meh, this is the exception not the rule. Tandem is spaced out, the pilot chute is already deployed. The jumper has 1k jumps usually. It's more dangerous to go road biking
This is why you do a briefing bovor you jump
Like watching a bunch of only students in the air all at once.
Did you see how far he threw his handles! Beer!
Question is did he buy him a new chute?
would be hard to point the finger of blame at just one person on that load
they just cut off another piece of it for symmetry. Russian downsize.
Twilight_Sun lol yes agreed
There's a difference between tracking and slacking...
Was the canopy ripped or was it just folder over following the impact?
Blown open like a trailer in a tornado
Almost happened to me cuz the group behind gave no separation time
In Soviet Russia, parachute lands on you.
Good morning... The Soviet Union ended in 1991.
@@pepege5175 #knowyourmeme
@@Kossi85 #knowyourtroll
A lot of things went wrong on that jump
Ну это же групповушники, всё нормально!!
😁
Чайники ))
what happened to the guy who punched a hole in the canopy?
So who's fault was it the green parachut guy or the other guy
Разбежка? 🧐 Не, не слышали.. 🥴
Hmm, does such damage make the canopy completely uncontrollable?
The diver did not try to brake, immedately threw the reserve. Why?
Really? Are you serious or completely joking? I don't even know how to react to this question....
@@mikescott2879 Just react with replying literally.
Whether or not such damage makes the canopy uncontrollable?
If yes, - okay.
If no, - is it possible to stop spiralling with brake and/or weight shift?
Or maybe the wing will progress destroying, so it is not reasonable to wait.
Just interesting.
In paragliding, there are instructions to throw a reserve immediately in a wide range of issues, including partial destruction of lines and/or surfaces.
But there are cases when pilots keep control. Especially if emergency landing right here is worse than trying to fly away.
So, what is the border - to try / to escape?
@@nickolaymerkin248 The canopy is damaged, you basically always cut that away since you cant know if it will cause issues (possibly below your hard Deck)
Idgaf if I’m doing a 2-way, track like your life fucking depends on it because it does and if your skilled enough roll over on your back and maybe look up to make sure your airspace is clear
Who is performer? When it was happened?
Curious, are the main chutes that are cut loose typically recovered or just lost?
Sometimes recovered and reused, sometimes lost
It depends on a number of factors: How high the cutaway happens and how fast the winds are at different altitudes (because it will drift downwind), if there are others under canopy on the same load that saw the cutaway happen and can follow it down (if safe to do so) or at least keep visual track of where it was last seen floating towards, what the terrain type is where it lands, if it lands in dense woods or on inaccessible private property, etc. If it's not found right away, sometimes a jump pilot returning from the next load can help look for it, or someone with a drone can.
In the vast majority of cases you would aim to recover your cutaway main parachute if possible - they are expensive to replace, and in most cases the malfunction is unlikely to have damaged it significantly.
Obviously this one was damaged by the impact - it would be up to a rigger to determine whether the damage was repairable.
not great, not terrible
A COA Would have been a Smart Choice. There was a Guy right above Him... 🤷🏼♂️
An absolute shit show 🤣🤣🤣 think they all got their licences from Google.
Я чето не расслышал что он сказал :) Я как-то прыгал с Д10, так хотелось свободного падения почувствовать, прыгнул лицом вних и стабилизирующий вокруг шеи обмотался. Пришлось обосраться, потом распутаться и выдернуть основной. Классно было :)
What a guy
why base jump can open a parachute 50 meters before the ground and when jumping from a plane then a parachute must be opened 100 kilometers before?
If the parachute of a basejumper fails, they're pretty much f*cked. That's why basejumping is much and much more dangerous than skydiving, there simply is no room for error or failure. With skydiving you can have a failed main chute but have enough time to recover or pull your reserve.
@@NANA-kj2pk thank you
@@bbwin1 With base jumping you don't skydive, you jump and fall and pull chute. That's not skydiving. Skydiving is like flying on the air cushion, that's not a thing in BASE jumping. The goals of both sports are totally different.
Base jumping parachutes open faster, regular skydiving gear open slower and softer, but they fall more, from between 350 to 1000 feet until full deceleration.
Fly Beep kinda not really.... what about terminal BASE jumps ? At Terminal Velocity the “air cushion” you talk about is very present. As long as altitude is there to generate the speed needed.
Is it 13500 ft ? No, but 2-8000 ft BASE jumps aren’t uncommon at all.
Safety, opening altitude, gear etc all completely different than skydiving.
I think it's worth inflating the branded merch for serving here)
I don’t see the problem here?
Terrible separation. These guys need more training!
You people do not predetermine and tell each other your opening altitudes either? Also, you TRACK OUT....
Close one.
Inexperienced jumpers = accidents. Just a little brain power goes a long way. smh
I know all of this skydivers. This is my inexperienced friends))))))
Пугачевка?🤔
maybe they need an experienced friend to help keep them safe and improve a little. Doing what they are doing probably isnt going to do either.
@@pepege5175 нет. Ещё варианты? ))
Молодцы!!!
не разбежались, пооткрывались в куче вот и получили приключение на жопу.
прославились хуле...
Это Сша? Ну а серьезно что за ДЗ?
рассмешил
Пугачёвка/Орёл
@@pepege5175 нет ... но пасаны ихнеи )))
Could anybody find just one thing what these guys did well? :D
They did do one thing right. They made the videos available so that they can be used as a bad example. :)
@@MrReasonabubble Bravo! You find it! :D Good job!