Why This Cult ‘$40 Pencil’ Almost Went Extinct | WSJ Coveted

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  • Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
  • With wax in its core, the Blackwing pencil was said to write faster than its competitors on the market, quickly earning a coveted status among creatives. Disney animators, artists and writers like Steven Sondheim and John Steinbeck added to its reputation. So why did these pencils reselling for anywhere from $40 to $200 almost go extinct?
    WSJ explains why the Blackwing’s for sale today are different from the ones Steinbeck used to write “The Grapes of Wrath.”
    Chapters:
    0:00 The story of the Blackwing
    1:28 Supply chain
    4:12 Why the pencil disappeared
    6:14 What’s next for the pencil?
    #Blackwing #Pencil #WSJ
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  • @nazor1
    @nazor1 4 месяца назад +2240

    Now this is marketing

    • @TheBestDog
      @TheBestDog 4 месяца назад +198

      How much do you think Blackwing paid for this commercial?

    • @timan2039
      @timan2039 4 месяца назад +52

      Everything is marketing

    • @nazor1
      @nazor1 4 месяца назад

      Everything? Bold claim. @@timan2039

    • @MyWatchIsEnded
      @MyWatchIsEnded 4 месяца назад +75

      Now this is podracing.

    • @am4793
      @am4793 4 месяца назад +37

      Yup, hyping a product you never knew you needed.

  • @gerald5344
    @gerald5344 4 месяца назад +719

    I know Blackwings have a cult following, but some years ago I tried a bunch of different pencils and found the price-quality sweet spot in a smooth-writing office pencil to be the Mitsubishi Pencil Co. 9850 HB, still made in Japan (I think) and available from Amazon at about $8 a dozen.

    • @user-mh5hc2bv3t
      @user-mh5hc2bv3t 4 месяца назад +24

      Thanks! I'll check that out

    • @user-mh5hc2bv3t
      @user-mh5hc2bv3t 4 месяца назад

      I trust the Japanese more than your average American business eager to squeeze out every possible ounce of profit anyways.

    • @doowi1182
      @doowi1182 4 месяца назад +34

      Mitsu-Bishi 9850s are super solid for the price. Might even be my preferred.

    • @BoondockGore
      @BoondockGore 4 месяца назад +24

      Ticonderoga black

    • @AndrewQuinn42
      @AndrewQuinn42 4 месяца назад +12

      Ticonderogas are sweet also

  • @Guez_art
    @Guez_art 4 месяца назад +690

    As an artist, I love using these pencils. It is not uncommon to go to the art store and buy a pencil for about $2.50 a piece. So $30 for a box of 12 is a sweet spot. These are the best, 99 cent pencils have nothing on these!

    • @closer2theheart684
      @closer2theheart684 3 месяца назад +17

      I said the same thing. Paying $2.50 sounds about right for a high quality pencil.

    • @jenpsakiscousin4589
      @jenpsakiscousin4589 3 месяца назад

      Ticonderoga is a good pencil as well.

    • @humorss
      @humorss 3 месяца назад +5

      Not really all that expensive, high quality colored pencil are about the same. I'm not an artist but I find them useful in construction with the very specific colors you can order individually.

    • @DrBananananananananananananana
      @DrBananananananananananananana 3 месяца назад +2

      lol wow insane I buy Misubishi's for 10 bucks a box all day long and they're not reproductions.

    • @greekveteran2715
      @greekveteran2715 3 месяца назад

      Mitsubishi's are great, just not THAT great, as the Blackwing are. Blackwing provide better precision, which is crazy because they are softer and with softness, you supposed to ;lose the precision, that a harder HB pencil can provide! Blackwing also have 10 layers of lackuer,a decent eraser and an overall quality, that no other pencil can much. IT's the same as cars, all cars have wheels and all can take you places, but Rolls Royce is Rolls Royce and Mercedes is Mercedes,Mishubishis and Hundais, are a different category.@@DrBananananananananananananana

  • @geneard639
    @geneard639 4 месяца назад +367

    I admit, I am weird. I have loved pencils since kindergarten. That love, has made me a snob of pencils. My pet peeve with most pencil makers is they use low grade materials for the graphite core and the wooden jacket. I hate the 'premium' pencils you buy that, that the wood is bendy and gummy, and the graphite core is all busted up because the wood is bendy. So you never get a good point. Black Wings are a true premium pencil, you get what you expect. Its a solid pencil, the graphite is nice and hard and you can take a few pages of notes, the wood is properly cured and tight grained. Sharpening one of these pencils is a joy, second only to writing with it.

    • @elementgypsy
      @elementgypsy 4 месяца назад +20

      Idk when cheap pencils flooded the market, but I couldn't stand many pencils in the 90s. Erasures would just smudge. Always cracked graphite. Sharpen and it's broken.
      Buying pencils at an art supply store is where it's at! You can test them, get diferent kinds and darknesses.

    • @ivy_47
      @ivy_47 4 месяца назад +10

      How would you say Ticonderoga compares? They're the "nicest" brand of pencil I've used.

    • @closer2theheart684
      @closer2theheart684 3 месяца назад +3

      Glad to know I'm not the only pencil snob. I love Blackwings.

    • @bsanchez3563
      @bsanchez3563 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@ivy_47imho usa gold, or else the Tenn red eg Tennessee red is the best of them.

    • @CharlesDavid-qb9nm
      @CharlesDavid-qb9nm 3 месяца назад

      @@bsanchez3563 Tennessee red is one of my favorites, however some of the pencils I have of theirs got fairly splintery when sharpening, you need a nice sharpener to go with it.

  • @MoonLitChild
    @MoonLitChild 4 месяца назад +188

    A friend of mine went to Japan and brought me back one Blackwing as an in-joke, not really knowing the story behind them-- after using it I hopped on line and immediately bought a full box. They're so great for outline and sketching for the watercolors I do for fun (I prefer to write with a Pilot Metropolitan fine nib fountain pen.) Haven't talked to that friend in a while but I will always be grateful she saw something she thought would make me laugh, and in the process introduced me to the best pencil I've ever used.

    • @smokingbeetles5793
      @smokingbeetles5793 3 месяца назад +8

      You should reconnect with her. Friends are a special.

    • @Jimbo_McBacon
      @Jimbo_McBacon 3 месяца назад +1

      @@smokingbeetles5793 Totally agree. Friends and pencils, and cats, are some of the best things you can have for friends in life

    • @halcyon_studio
      @halcyon_studio 3 месяца назад

      @@smokingbeetles5793 all we are is dust in the wind

    • @ellaisplotting
      @ellaisplotting 2 месяца назад +1

      Pilot Metropolitan, good solid pen! I was looking to get one myself but I upgraded to a Lamy instead.

    • @MoonLitChild
      @MoonLitChild 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ellaisplotting Ironically I just bought a Lamy to try out their left handed nib and it's the first left handed thing I ever felt made a difference. The angle at which it hits the paper means I'm not smudging the ink constantly before it has a chance to dry.

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd 4 месяца назад +62

    I never thought much about pencils until my most recent box of Staedtler's came out so inferior to what I used in the past.

    • @markvann9347
      @markvann9347 4 месяца назад

      Really? I love straedler pencils I've never got a bad batch self...

    • @adityasixviandyj7334
      @adityasixviandyj7334 4 месяца назад

      @@markvann9347 there is always be bad batches due several variation due manufacturing process, and it's common. In Indonesia, Faber Castel 9000 & Straedler Mars Lumograph 100 is the classic here, and I did have several bad batches from them. Most common bad batches on me were: easily broken leads, the wood is too soft so when saving it went fray, and uniquely several time the leads were detach from the wood and I can pull the lead EASILY from the wood. then I switch to Stabilo Exam Grade, and it was better in term durability & batch consistency, but because it formulated specially for exam, the lead are much more softer but also went darker & smoother on any papers, so you need to learn not to put much more pressure when drawing & sketching; the wood also more grainier somehow, but it was reliable during exam & drawing overall.

    • @leam1978
      @leam1978 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MattWithTheCat4541 like any corporation, they have to constantly make their product cheaper and cheaper

  • @user-qj4dx4fc3n
    @user-qj4dx4fc3n 3 месяца назад +64

    I wonder what Caroline Weaver is doing these days. People still talk about her legendary pencil shop in NYC, which closed a couple of years ago. That little shop was paradise for pencil lovers! And she was always so gracious, and so knowledgeable. Come back, Ms. Weaver!

    • @dskim24
      @dskim24 7 дней назад +1

      I used to go there a fair amount. I think the curmudgeon in me assumed it was going to be super hipstery, I mean, a store for just pencils. But then I absolutely came to love that shop, I have tons of pencils still that I got there. I wish I had gone more. Amazingly, the prices were really reasonable, too! I used to load up on Tombow 100s, Monos, etc. there. And yes, I had to try some of the new Palominos. Got some nostalgia items -- the Dixon 308 etc. And some great holders and sharpeners. And there was that fun vending machine with the old ad pencils. Indeed, Caroline Weaver was really really nice. She'd wrap up your purchases so nicely too! I wish it was still around. Yes, CW enterprises, please come back! Become a chain!

    • @user-qj4dx4fc3n
      @user-qj4dx4fc3n 7 дней назад

      @@dskim24 Yes, you are so right. A lovely memory! Wouldn't that be amazing if the shop returned, and with a few branches???

  • @stevenj9970
    @stevenj9970 4 месяца назад +76

    I've been using the original Blackwing 602 since 1978. I'm a classical musician and my teacher always used it since he played under Toscanini. FYI, L. Bernstein/Percy Grainger, Marvin Hamish and many other composers all used the 602. In the old 'Hogans Hero's' you see Col. Klink using one at his desk. I still have 4 one dozen boxes of the old 602's. I was over joyed they brought back that pencil EXCEPT they first released the black color pencil only called 'Blackwing'....THAT pencil MOST closely feels like the original 602. When they LATER released the BW 602 the graphite is stiffer, not gliding as smoothly as the old 602. If you want the feel of the old 602, purchase the black color "blackwing".... all my symphony/freelance musician colleagues now use that pencil.

    • @kinghenry7058
      @kinghenry7058 3 месяца назад

      Are you referring to Blackwing's Matte pencil? Or are you describing a pencil which is no longer in production. I'm curious b/c I want to try the original pencil.

    • @stevenj9970
      @stevenj9970 3 месяца назад

      The new blackwing BLACK color is most like the original...and they released that one first...the old orig. was gun metal gray and had '602' written on it...WHY the new company didnt release that design first, is beyond me...@@kinghenry7058

    • @Bootus123
      @Bootus123 3 месяца назад +3

      Yeah I’m surprised to see how many people here haven’t heard of this pencil… but I’m also a classical musician. It must be abnormally popular in our field.
      Personally, I find Blackwings to be a tad on the expensive side for we do and I love my Mitsubishi 9850s, and while I wouldn’t buy Blackwings for myself I’d happily welcome them as a gift.

    • @stevenj9970
      @stevenj9970 3 месяца назад

      The new ones still don't quite match the original 602 from the late 1990's and before....when I use one of them, it just glides SO beautifully.....I cant tell you over those earlier years of my career when a stand partner would grab my old 602 to mark the music, after using it, they would ALL turn the pencil over to see what KIND of pencil it was.....@@Bootus123

  • @defeatSpace
    @defeatSpace 4 месяца назад +97

    I vaguely remember a friend gifting a pack of the originals like 10 years ago during highschool, both the friend and pencils are phenomenal, there's probably even a few remaining in the pack!

  • @digitalbuzz
    @digitalbuzz 4 месяца назад +11

    I used one Blackwing pencil, i happened to find at work, throughout my 4 years in design school, down to a nub. I keep that little pencil in a box of memorabilia.

  • @stevenj9970
    @stevenj9970 4 месяца назад +36

    FYI, as you wear down the erasure, put it out and lift it out further from the aluminum sheath, crimp the aluminum and stick it back into the gold holder.

    • @grissee
      @grissee 3 месяца назад +4

      I'm not gonna be able to afford those pencils but thanks for the tips anyway 👍

    • @sclogse1
      @sclogse1 3 месяца назад

      I just use a separate erasure. And really, I never erase.

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown 4 месяца назад +105

    as an artist who works in pencil.....quality is hard to find,
    and I hate any pencil that does not live up to my art pencils...
    I had a Blacking back in the 1960's, and thought the eraser was really cool...
    I think my dad snagged it from work.......
    keep up the good work......
    and thanks for caring so much,
    cheers from an old guy in Florida , Paul

    • @AryaStarky
      @AryaStarky 4 месяца назад +2

      Japanese pencils are way better than these overpriced ones

    • @dillan6134
      @dillan6134 3 месяца назад

      Musgrave Pencil in Tennessee has the best pencils money can buy

    • @skydivenext
      @skydivenext 3 месяца назад

      @@AryaStarky agree and they are cheap sometiems third the prices

  • @rickintexas1584
    @rickintexas1584 4 месяца назад +118

    I’ve used pencils as an engineer since the 80s. I’ve never heard of a Blackwing. The Pentel mechanical pencil has been my pencil of choice since 1981.

    • @differentkindofGEKE
      @differentkindofGEKE 4 месяца назад +14

      I’m an engineer too (chemical/environmental). I don’t really do any engineering that requires a pencil anymore but sometimes I need to sketch something on a site visit. I’m a mechanical pencil girl. I started using fountain pens for writing. I do love a good old-fashioned pencil and may buy a Blackwing or two to sketch and write a bit.

    • @svgs650r
      @svgs650r 4 месяца назад +3

      …P205 & 7’s are simply magic and superior for what you do

    • @godfreycarmichael
      @godfreycarmichael 4 месяца назад +6

      I love Pentel mechanical pencils.

    • @GildaLee27
      @GildaLee27 4 месяца назад +5

      It's more of an artist's or writer's pencil. Far too soft for drafting work.

    • @seanseoltoir
      @seanseoltoir 4 месяца назад +12

      When I was working as a draftsman back in the 1970s, the Pentel and Staedtler were the standards for mechnical pencils and lead. I even tried the 0.3mm pencil, but quickly gave up on it because being so small, the lead was always breaking. Back then, they hadn't put the spring mechanism into the lead holder that allowed the lead to retract slightly if you pressed too hard... The first one with that mechanism that I encountered was when I was in the military and it was made by Skilcraft. Surprisingly, I still have a couple of the "US GOVERNMENT" marked Skilcraft mechanical pencils and they still work perfectly even after all these decades.

  • @bernadette85
    @bernadette85 4 месяца назад +21

    people love their office supplies. I never tried an original, but I’m happy to have tried a new release Blackwing! The quality and elegance are unmatched

  • @DJmcRUSH
    @DJmcRUSH 4 месяца назад +25

    What's amazing is a company picked up the brand, and decided to recreate the actual product. Rather than just using the brand, and running it off for quick profits

    • @largol33t12
      @largol33t12 3 месяца назад +1

      Their dedication makes my jaw drop. They couldn't fix a machine to attach the eraser so they made their own machine to do that. That's such a boss move. I have only respect for them for all that backbreaking work to get the pencil as close as possible to the original.

  • @ProkoTV
    @ProkoTV 4 месяца назад +595

    Great video on the rebirth of a pencil we love!

    • @anr5525
      @anr5525 3 месяца назад +2

      Was not expecting proko to be here

    • @ProkoTV
      @ProkoTV 3 месяца назад

      We love pencils lol@@anr5525

    • @eijonasson
      @eijonasson 3 месяца назад +2

      One pencil for $3.is worth far more when you really need a writing instrument of any kind.
      It's a fetish...
      Freedom is grand when you are not afraid to enjoy it.
      So many people have houses full of unnecessary stuff and don't flinch.
      Same people will get all messed up on a really nice $3 pencil.

    • @MFDOOOOM
      @MFDOOOOM 3 месяца назад

      Pen shills everywhere

    • @JoshuaMartin992
      @JoshuaMartin992 2 месяца назад +1

      @@eijonasson Calling it a fetish is a little weird. People love the nicest version of something its just how it is.

  • @Rev_Oir
    @Rev_Oir 4 месяца назад +64

    I remember these pencils from childhood...
    The silvery grey paint. The funny little rectangular eraser and ferrule. The little aluminum curlicues on the sides.
    I didn't even know they were discontinued, much less resurrected, or even special.
    But somebody in my childhood home liked them, because we had more than one.

  • @Vicarium
    @Vicarium 4 месяца назад +156

    Mitsubishi 9800 is a superior pencil, followed closely by the Tonbow 2558. The Mitsubishi woodgrain is so tight, it feels like you could beat a bull elephant to death with it, and the graphite is effortlessly dark.

    • @Make-Asylums-Great-Again
      @Make-Asylums-Great-Again 4 месяца назад +58

      Are you beating elephants with Mitsubishi pencils?

    • @kmj2000
      @kmj2000 4 месяца назад +12

      I've been a fan of the Blackwings, my go-to is the Extra Firm lead. But I picked up some cheap Tombow Monos at a Japanese store and they are way better in terms of lead.

    • @gerald5344
      @gerald5344 3 месяца назад +2

      Your comment a few days ago inspired me to order a box of the current Tombows, so I can see if the quality is still good now that they've moved production to Vietnam.

    • @kmj2000
      @kmj2000 3 месяца назад

      @@gerald5344 Oh, please update me! The Tombows I got were Tombow Mono-R HB pencils in a plastic case. I just got the new Blackwing Volume 2 with the XX-Firm lead and I still prefer the Tombows. I think I'm ready to leave Blackwings behind and explore the Japanese brands.

    • @R005t3r
      @R005t3r 3 месяца назад +1

      That 9800 is definitely a milspec, tactical pencil.

  • @user-pc3io5ji1o
    @user-pc3io5ji1o 3 месяца назад +13

    Honestly $40 for 12 high quality pencils doesn’t seem like an insane price to me. If your career requires you to use a tool all day every day I imagine you want to have one that feels good to use. It’s like a high quality chef knife for a chef.

  • @alexanderurben6339
    @alexanderurben6339 4 месяца назад +40

    Artists trying to be engineers reveals the beauty of their minds. So many misinterpretations of why someting mechanically works, but an indominable spirit to make it work. Really makes for a beautiful story.

    • @veisslie_4880
      @veisslie_4880 3 месяца назад +1

      That's a damned good way to put it, I'm gonna use this if you don't mind

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 3 месяца назад +5

      @@veisslie_4880 You can replace "artists" by "children" and clearly notice how paternalistic that sounds.
      "Children trying to be engineers reveals the beauty of their minds. So many misinterpretations of why something mechanically works, but an indominable spirit to make it work. Really makes for a beautiful story."

    • @sleepmore8587
      @sleepmore8587 3 месяца назад +1

      You know artists aren't idiots. A lot of us are engineers, architects, mathematicians, doctors.

    • @alexanderurben6339
      @alexanderurben6339 3 месяца назад +1

      @@sleepmore8587 of course! Sorry if it came off like I don’t respect different creative processes. I see my own approach to solving their problems with manufacturing and material science, and it would be a lot easier. BUT I wouldn’t make a perfect pencil, I’m not an artist. Their approach to solving problems is geared entirely around the writing experience, and I think it’s really beautiful to create something that way. Very different from my thought process when designing for manufacture.

    • @alexanderurben6339
      @alexanderurben6339 3 месяца назад

      @@veisslie_4880 thank you❤️how are you using it? Just curious

  • @mr.m12345
    @mr.m12345 4 месяца назад +101

    These pencils are worth the price. It is really had to explain it until you have used one. It's like butter, very little effort is required to draw with these. They silky smooth and consistent. If you are not sure, get try the 3 pack that has the white, gray and black pencils. You will not regret it.

    • @Shamufrootyboots
      @Shamufrootyboots 4 месяца назад +11

      This. I thought they were ridiculously priced. Bought one to really dunk on the hype and then used it up entirely in one week. It’s just a great drawing tool.

    • @jimrussell-us
      @jimrussell-us 3 месяца назад

      I love mine. A real delight.

    • @jaa67s
      @jaa67s 3 месяца назад +1

      I have used Staedler, Faber, Derwent (new ones), Caran Dáche in my drawings.
      Blackwing is in another league, it's like butter, I don't want anything else.

  • @xlerb2286
    @xlerb2286 3 месяца назад +4

    I remember those pencils from school in the 70's. We had an art instructor that always used them and I liked them so much I started using them. There's probably still a few in the pen & pencil box at my parent's house. In college I started using a Pentel mechanical pencil as it was great for engineering classes. Though I hardly ever use a pencil these days.

  • @darwinwins
    @darwinwins 4 месяца назад +37

    I can't be critical of people who spent tens of dollars per pencil after blackwing went under. I've spent hundreds of dollars on spectracolor colored pencils (precursor to prismacolor).
    I am definitely going to go buy a box this morning.

    • @pxcampbell4073
      @pxcampbell4073 4 месяца назад

      I was thinking that exact same thing while reading these comments. I sold a set of Prismacolors I found thrift shopping and have regretted it ever since - despite the *huge* profit!

  • @eliasgermer8762
    @eliasgermer8762 3 месяца назад +3

    1:40 - She is without a doubt the best looking pencil historian I've seen.

  • @zachazlett
    @zachazlett 4 месяца назад +12

    My favorite pencil is the Scripto 1.1mm twist top. They also were discontinued in the late 90’s. Several years ago I amassed a pretty large collection. Everyone thinks I’m crazy lol.

  • @TheEudaemonicPlague
    @TheEudaemonicPlague 4 месяца назад +31

    As much art gear as I've collected over my lifetime, how is it I've never even heard of this pencil? I have tons of pencils that I've picked up since the late sixties, always keeping an eye out for a new one. Weird. I think I'm going to visit my favorite art supply shop in the near future...as soon as it gets enough above zero.

    • @leebrokus5069
      @leebrokus5069 4 месяца назад +2

      They're pretty great. I've been using Blackwing Pearls for about 10 years now. They're a little softer than the 602's, but not as soft as the Matte's. It's been a while since I had a set of varying hardness pencils, but writing with one right now, it feels pretty close to a 2B. I don't have any 602's anymore, but I remember them being closer to a 2H, maybe a little softer. Never tried a Matte.

    • @guitar4hire311
      @guitar4hire311 4 месяца назад

      big fan of Viarco and even their packaging is made with old machines, if i remember correctly. i find it too firm/light to compare it to Blackwing. i do think they are coming up with fun ideas with some of their product lines that i haven't seen many other companies do.

    • @sjb3460
      @sjb3460 4 месяца назад

      You must be a very happy person.

  • @reggaestylee
    @reggaestylee 3 месяца назад +2

    Awesome Video thank you very much for your hard effort and work

  • @chrismaggio7879
    @chrismaggio7879 3 месяца назад +4

    As a professional sketch artist I use buy boxes and boxes of the Dixon Ticonderoga #2 (HB) pencils for my day to day sketching and projects, but when I am embarking on a serious project or I'm really intent on a piece I actually do go to my Blackwings. There IS a difference, maybe partly psychosomatic wherein you think it's better so you act and work better, but damned if it doesn't make the art feel better! I do believe it's a better pencil.

  • @Paul_Wetor
    @Paul_Wetor 4 месяца назад +9

    I don't know much about pencils, but I love how people treasure a product that has quality and is a cut above the rest. And it's not just for status, it's because of the pencil itself.

  • @yamamushi
    @yamamushi 4 месяца назад +11

    I have a box of original Blackwings, sometimes I think about taking one out to use, but then I see some absurd prices for them and I figure the Palomino's are a decent substitute while I hold onto them for a little longer. They're not totally the same, but they're close enough.

    • @janemiettinen5176
      @janemiettinen5176 4 месяца назад +24

      No, use them! What if you die tomorrow.. My grandma always saved the “better” stuff, after her death we had small museums worth of things, from design glassware sets to nice clothes and shoes, never worn and out of fashion. She wouldve enjoyed these things so much, loads more than we did.. we ended up donating most of it. Use your fancy supplies, treat yourself. I think we all deserve something nice, as the world gets more broken each day.

    • @yamamushi
      @yamamushi 3 месяца назад +1

      @@janemiettinen5176 good point 🤗 ♥️

  • @langolier9
    @langolier9 3 месяца назад +3

    Wow, just when I think I know at least a little about everything, something comes, comes along and blows my mind about stuff that I never considered

  • @scoobtoober2975
    @scoobtoober2975 3 месяца назад +3

    My dad was a hand pencil drafter. I touched all of his old gear. There is definitely a difference in types, brands and shapes/sizes. Sand paper to hone the edge. Bags of eraser dust to fine wipe the dust off. Very cool. I wish i had it today. he has it in the garage. Cheers
    I'll check these out and compare to the old. He didn't have black wing, but it was staedler and faber for sure. Different hardness ratings

  • @fod1855
    @fod1855 4 месяца назад +16

    Love the Blackwing - cool to see how it’s made!

  • @RetroMacRyan
    @RetroMacRyan 4 месяца назад +3

    Great video! Blackwings are my favorite pencils!

  • @donjohnson3701
    @donjohnson3701 3 месяца назад +2

    Well, I have gone for 70 odd years without knowing about the Blackwing 602, now I can die happy!

  • @NovocaineTV
    @NovocaineTV 4 месяца назад +2

    my favorite pencil set growing up. loved drawing with these suckers

  • @ChadWilson
    @ChadWilson 4 месяца назад +10

    There comes a time when you want to write with quality, not quantity.

  • @jeremymcbride
    @jeremymcbride 4 месяца назад +5

    3:43 - gotta love uncentered graphite

  • @SometimesMyself
    @SometimesMyself 4 месяца назад +20

    Back in the 80s, we had pencils that would produce these long, graceful curls when sharpened. The wood was so dense and smooth, and those curls were a dream. Since then, I seem to only get crumbles and shards when sharpening a pencil. Whatever happened to the gracefully curling pencils?

    • @HIPPIE207
      @HIPPIE207 3 месяца назад

      That's a strange thing to notice

    • @jonnda
      @jonnda 3 месяца назад +6

      The quality of wood, almost in general across the board, is steadily going down. Older trees have been harvested, and replaced in the market by faster growing younger trees.

    • @MB-oj7ds
      @MB-oj7ds 3 месяца назад

      I also was in elementary school in the 80s, I remember my favorite pencils were Empire.

  • @Novilicious
    @Novilicious 4 месяца назад +8

    There is a similar thing happening with Japanese chalk. Quality matters!! ❤

  • @silverfeathered1
    @silverfeathered1 4 месяца назад +64

    Just remember one thing... These are "Tribute" pencils. The originals are still superior at what they did for their original price point.
    For that matter, modern FaberCastell are leagues better. They didn't make a bad call dropping that line for a niche eraser.

  • @DursunX
    @DursunX 4 месяца назад +16

    i did the math~
    21% dislike the pencil
    77% dislike the vocal fry
    2% dislike WSJ

  • @UnspokenOldOne
    @UnspokenOldOne 4 месяца назад +3

    I remember first learning about Blackwing Pencil's from an artist friend who wanted some so badly I got him a box as a birthday present. He eventually gifted me one to try myself and to this day I think about that pencil. I might have to buy myself a box.

  • @larryscott3982
    @larryscott3982 4 месяца назад +7

    Never heard of it.
    I want a box!
    I’ve always loved FC pencils, specifically HB lead.

  • @a-hvlogs2046
    @a-hvlogs2046 4 месяца назад +6

    Solid production here, props to the team who made this vid.

  • @TheBrokenEclipse
    @TheBrokenEclipse 4 месяца назад +29

    This was really interesting! Now I want the pencil for some reason

    • @festerofest4374
      @festerofest4374 4 месяца назад

      For real. I’ve probably written with a pencil less than 5 minutes in the last 20 years but now I want these.

    • @JoshWright396
      @JoshWright396 3 месяца назад +1

      That's the whole point of this promotional video...

    • @robert-jason-king
      @robert-jason-king 3 месяца назад +1

      Welcome to Public Relations & Propaganda

  • @thomaswalton8605
    @thomaswalton8605 4 месяца назад +18

    These are the only pencils I use, will never go back to regular ones. I carry a blackwing pencil, a Lamy fountain pen, and a Muji gel pen with me everyday

    • @jamesburton1050
      @jamesburton1050 4 месяца назад +1

      Nice!!

    • @juanmonge7418
      @juanmonge7418 4 месяца назад +1

      Have you tried the Schneider .08 pen. It is the best pen that I have ever tried.

    • @ellaisplotting
      @ellaisplotting 2 месяца назад +1

      I've a Lamy! Gorgeous pens 😊

  • @dogchickencatboi5910
    @dogchickencatboi5910 2 месяца назад +3

    Blackwing also produces the best handheld pencil sharpener I've ever owned. It's metal, it sharpens smoothly, it fits well in the hand, easy to empty and reassemble, it's great. I also enjoy their note/sketchbooks, they're great for everyday and throwing in a backpack. They have an elastic pencil loop, come with one of the pencils, have a pocket in the back, and have an elastic band to hold them shut. Overall a great brand.

  • @ronmcmartin4513
    @ronmcmartin4513 3 месяца назад +3

    I like the Black better than the Gray 602 or Pearl. I like the 6B, soft & dark, like a "No. 1 or 0.5" pencil. I also like Mechanical pencils, Fine Point. They never get dull.
    You NEED the "Long Point pencil sharpener", and buy extra erasers(need replacing after half used). It's like using a fine Carnauba wax on your Classic car rather than Turtle Wax liquid.
    Life is short. You should have the BEST of something!

  • @andreawallenberger2668
    @andreawallenberger2668 4 месяца назад +46

    "Pencil Historian" there's a career path 😂

    • @TomBuskey
      @TomBuskey 4 месяца назад +4

      The Pencil: A History of Design and Cirumstance by Henry Petroski 450 pages. Most pencils in desks, tolboxes, etc got thrown away as they preserved the rest of the contents

    • @poopconsumer1234
      @poopconsumer1234 4 месяца назад +7

      Caroline Weaver, the pencil historian, also ran a pencil shop

    • @acknasty
      @acknasty 4 месяца назад +1

      Missed opportunity 😂

    • @user-qj4dx4fc3n
      @user-qj4dx4fc3n 4 месяца назад +6

      Caroline Weaver is a wonderful person. For a time, she ran the world's greatest pencil shop in NYC, which is sorely missed.

    • @kurtwolter3984
      @kurtwolter3984 3 месяца назад +3

      She’s awesome. I ordered a bunch of pencils from her shop a few years back and she included a hand written thank you note in pencil in the order. ❤

  • @loglad5394
    @loglad5394 3 месяца назад +1

    The amount of passion they put into this should be all you need to know in order to see why they are worth it.

  • @reinhardsmirnofsky2507
    @reinhardsmirnofsky2507 3 месяца назад +2

    Caroline with the teenage Caligurl accent geez woman you're almost 50 XD

  • @johncolley7643
    @johncolley7643 4 месяца назад +3

    I never knew I needed this till now 😂

  • @troytreeguy
    @troytreeguy 4 месяца назад +3

    I love the complaining about how hard it was to recreate something that someone already did most of the work for and you could get into the name cheap. And then out source it. Everything is in the marketing, not in the substance.

  • @elizachristensen
    @elizachristensen 4 месяца назад +1

    at 0:56 the dovetail slides on that machine are hand scraped in the swiss pull scraping style, very cool

  • @jonnyfatboy7563
    @jonnyfatboy7563 3 месяца назад +1

    at the end he should've answered: "I'm not crazy my customers are"

  • @MorbidEel
    @MorbidEel 4 месяца назад +5

    What was the price from the original manufacturer before being discontinued? The $40 is the starting resell price after being discontinued and this new company is selling them for $2.25 which seems pricey but still not too crazy.
    Doesn't really matter to me since I will always prefer mechanical pencil and those won't have issue with rolling off either.

  • @davidhenryhudson3102
    @davidhenryhudson3102 4 месяца назад +3

    You had me at $40 pencil.

  • @DigitalViscosity
    @DigitalViscosity Месяц назад +1

    I was a bit Blackwing fan in the 90s and early 2000s until they just disappeared. But I moved on to the Mitsubishi Pencil, I have been using their art supply for a while and I did try the new Pearl, 602, and the Matte blackwings recently and wasn't moved enough to pay their premium.

  • @FreeTimeMastermind
    @FreeTimeMastermind 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video WSJ!

  • @ScaleScarborough-jq8zx
    @ScaleScarborough-jq8zx 4 месяца назад +12

    Going to crack open a can of Liquid Death and write a hit with my BlackWing; yup, I’m definitely getting close to arriving.

  • @NoctilucentArts
    @NoctilucentArts 4 месяца назад +6

    So if Faber-Castell ended the Blackwing just because of the eraser ferrule - they most likely continued making that Blackwing graphite blend under a different name with a round eraser, right?

    • @athmaid
      @athmaid 4 месяца назад +1

      Maybe yes, if they deemed the core to be interesting enough to keep around

    • @sclogse1
      @sclogse1 3 месяца назад

      @@athmaid Costs time and money to change...

  • @MMusic91
    @MMusic91 3 месяца назад +1

    As a stationery lover, thanks for the video~ Very interesting!

  • @Ret_Army_Combat_Vet
    @Ret_Army_Combat_Vet 2 месяца назад +1

    After I watch this video I went to the attic and rummage my old stuff. I found 8 original Blackwing pencil still unused and 2 used from my college days. Thanks. But I rather used Staedtler, Pentel, Pilot, Uni Kuru, Kaweco pencils now.

  • @f150terp
    @f150terp 4 месяца назад +7

    One of pencils that I use daily, love them!

  • @redneckhippiefreak
    @redneckhippiefreak 4 месяца назад +14

    I used the knockoff brand "Black Warrior". They were just as good as far as the feel of the Black Wing but the advantage for an 8 year old of the times was; it was made of California Redwood. For a kid betting 50 cents per pencil fight, the $1 investment paid off really quickly. XD Those things would chew through 6 or 7 regular No2 pencils. XP

    • @ginzo666
      @ginzo666 4 месяца назад +2

      I remember playing "pencil break." LOL Good times!

  • @alexandermarquardt597
    @alexandermarquardt597 2 месяца назад +1

    "...we are crazy. But we are still here"---- yeah OK, that sold me, ordering a box.

  • @stig770
    @stig770 3 месяца назад

    Great!! and thanks for comeback!. I hope distribute it in Peru

  • @kimlindseyOH
    @kimlindseyOH 4 месяца назад +3

    I like the Palominos better than the 602s - the Pearls are wonderful too - but (my opinion) any Blackwing is superior to all other pencils. So happy that this company brought back the brand!

  • @AndrewQuinn42
    @AndrewQuinn42 4 месяца назад +3

    Not putting paid promotion at the top of this video is illegal isn’t it?

  • @themightysquid
    @themightysquid 2 месяца назад

    I found one of these when I was in junior high school back in the 60’s. I’ve never seen a pencil like this and it was my favorite one mostly because of the unique anti-roll eraser. I now own these in the graphite and white pearl, and they’re the smoothest writing pencils, and I just happen to like the style and vintage. And as for the cost, I’ve had the same 2 boxes for years, and even gave a few pencils as gifts. Sure, I have other types of pencils, but there’s a nostalgic feeling when you write with this pencil that’s hard to explain, but makes it an easy choice when reaching for a pencil.

  • @DJKinney
    @DJKinney 4 месяца назад +7

    Caroline's vocal fry is off the charts.

  • @Jsuarez6
    @Jsuarez6 4 месяца назад +14

    This is not the greatest pencil in the world, this is just a tribute!

    • @EzeICE
      @EzeICE 3 месяца назад +3

      Tenacious D! Very nice

  • @m_a_s6069
    @m_a_s6069 3 месяца назад +1

    @6:45 She nailed it. It's a tribute! They aren't the original, but you can tell they spent a lot of time and effort to get fairly close.
    I have a bunch of the new ones, and they have different styles/lead types. The old ones seem to be somewhere between their 602 and their natural. Maybe the next one will be just right.

  • @RichardSanchez137
    @RichardSanchez137 2 месяца назад +2

    1. I'm happy with my Staedtler mechanical.
    2. This is a pencil for unicyclists.

  • @Largecow_Moobeast
    @Largecow_Moobeast 4 месяца назад +3

    Pencil historian seems like an in demand job.

  • @tokiomitohsaka7770
    @tokiomitohsaka7770 4 месяца назад +4

    Never heard of these pencils, but it’s pretty cool.

  • @scottsievers344
    @scottsievers344 4 месяца назад +1

    Great story! Kudos to the company and its employees. Now I need to go order some sweet pencils!

  • @mr_nice.
    @mr_nice. 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm just amazed at the fact that there is actualy a historian for pencils.

  • @freeman4755
    @freeman4755 4 месяца назад +7

    This really reminds me of the Hagamoro chalk story that got really famous because of Great Big Story's video on them

  • @enx11
    @enx11 3 месяца назад +5

    npc consumer drones

  • @adrianli7757
    @adrianli7757 2 месяца назад

    Many years ago, when I was taking the LSAT, I needed to find a pencil that was thick and could create large circular dots quickly (every second counted). I ended up going to a specialty shop at the local art college to find Palomino Blackwings. It was very expensive for what was only a handful of them, but it gave me the confidence to fill out the scantron bubbles quickly and achieve a 169.

  • @Americanbadashh
    @Americanbadashh 3 месяца назад +1

    "Some people still do think we're crazy"
    "And what do you say back?"
    "Good question"
    [long pause]
    That moment had me rolling

  • @randallnadeau1691
    @randallnadeau1691 3 месяца назад +3

    Very good video

  • @Andrewbud21
    @Andrewbud21 4 месяца назад +7

    I've bought about 10 dozens from blackwing over the years and I think only two of those dozens were properly glued on the ferrule. Get better with your QAs blackwing! You charge a premium on these things and they aren't even high quality. I've never in my entire life bought any other pencil and had the ferrule just come off. Also there's the other end of the spectrum, y'all use TOO MUCH glue and the eraser clip doesn't wanna come out.

    • @sclogse1
      @sclogse1 3 месяца назад

      I never use the eraser on the pencil.

  • @stephenturner6075
    @stephenturner6075 3 месяца назад

    I loved his answer at the end when told that some people think you are crazy for doing this?...we are crazy!!! I love it!!!

  • @doodleydoo169
    @doodleydoo169 4 месяца назад +1

    One of the few pencils I will use for drawing, absolutely love them!

  • @arianah1225
    @arianah1225 4 месяца назад +9

    So it’s just an “inspired” version. JUST A DUPE

  • @PalmBeachJunk
    @PalmBeachJunk 4 месяца назад +4

    Her vocal fry is like soo .....

    • @user-qj4dx4fc3n
      @user-qj4dx4fc3n 4 месяца назад

      But a brilliant person. She ran a legendary pencil shop in NYC for many years.

  • @izzman66
    @izzman66 3 месяца назад

    Great piece! I personally own the Blackwing Pearl (love it) Side note I think even Hemingway used the Blackwing for writing in journals and so on.. Yes it's worth it.

  • @1337flite
    @1337flite 3 месяца назад

    I think I just found the perfect birthday pressie for my arty partner.
    Thanks WSJ and Palamino.

  • @jeffwhitehead7990
    @jeffwhitehead7990 4 месяца назад +4

    i won’t use a pencil that doesn’t have book-matched cedar sides. just won’t.

  • @michaeltaylor4271
    @michaeltaylor4271 4 месяца назад +3

    I mean half of the price you are paying goes to the box it is put in for sale. lol seriously the boxes probably cost more to produce than the pencils themselves.

    • @user-qj4dx4fc3n
      @user-qj4dx4fc3n 4 месяца назад

      I agree that the boxes have become too elaborate, contributing to the high cost. At the start, the boxes were much simpler (and actually more elegant).

  • @greemblomb
    @greemblomb 3 месяца назад +1

    Brilliant. Kudos to the actors, especially the woman playing the pencil historian, she really nailed the "pretentious urbanite valley girl" persona and vocal fry

  • @DJJ81
    @DJJ81 2 месяца назад

    No way, I had no idea they brought it back. I had these in the 90s in high school and college and literally haven’t used a regular #2 pencil since, because it’s never been the same. My goodness, sometimes good things happen

  • @bpd231martinko9
    @bpd231martinko9 4 месяца назад +4

    In this day and age I can't believe that the "formula" of the composition of the "lead" can't be determined by a chemical analysis of same. Just asking....

    • @MorbidEel
      @MorbidEel 4 месяца назад

      According to the video the originals did not have one composition. I find it strange that they went with something closer to an older formulation rather than the most recent. The most recent one should be the one that the majority of current users would have the most experience with and most likely to replicate whatever those users are after.

  • @engleharddinglefester4285
    @engleharddinglefester4285 4 месяца назад +3

    There's nothing the matter with nice art supplies.

  • @christophermccutcheon2143
    @christophermccutcheon2143 2 месяца назад +1

    Pencil enthusiasts talk about this pencil like it's a rare car lol

  • @DrMuse-on2dx
    @DrMuse-on2dx 3 месяца назад +1

    Faber Castell has the original formula their drawing pencils are amazing but so are Dixon Ticonderoga 2HB Soft and being an artist I prefer the latter. The control you get with the Dixon is unsurpassed all you need is the one pencil 2HB Soft. I was drawing and painting before 5 years old and now I am over 70. I use the Dixon 2HB Soft exclusively for all my art projects.

  • @fornello123
    @fornello123 4 месяца назад +9

    These people are all up-talkers(?)