Hi, Mark. Just in case you read this somehow:I LOVE your reviews, they're funny, charming, and you put a lot of effort into them. When I see your videos, they put a big smile on my face and they inspire me and many other people to make reviews.So, I'm going to say this...IGNORE THE HATERS.Just because some dude says that you suck and you do this for views doesn't mean that you have to leave RUclips. There are more people that care about you more in the YT community than what you think. Hell, at this point you shouldn't even care about those people because they don't know what are they talking about, and your content is very well done. So, please, don't leave RUclips! Ignore all those mean comments and keep doing great reviews. Have a nice day, Good Sir.
I've got a Joycard Needs for my MSX, and I quite like it -- it's basically a standard NES controller, but with a ridge running along the side that actually makes it a little more comfortable to hold... and with turbo switches for the trigger buttons, of course. The only downside is that the thing is really dirty, so the up and down arrows on the D-pad sometimes get stuck and trigger left and right intermittently when you hold them. And while I've attempted to get into the thing to clean it, the screws on the back have been stripped bare, so I haven't yet found a way to get inside.
There's a recent CGR episode in which Mark comments something like " - Check the Ninja Scroll poster on the wall" while he was showing something else. I can't remember exactly, maybe in that episode in which he was preparing all the stuff to move to a different scenario?
It seems that the NES Advantage had different manufacturers over the years though I have always suspected that Ascii was one of them. One that I know for sure was Mitsumi. They have very different boards inside.
Apparently this one also works on the Sharp X68000, Sweet!! I've seen a controller for the MSX by Hudson that's basically a Famicom controller with a 9 pin connector and Turbo Switches, it looks sweet and since it's by Hudson I bet it's a quality product!
way..way back in the day Hudson (which was essentially NEC then) mostly did hardware stuff before they got into software.....I THINK. If i could read Japanese i could have told u definitively but alas..i cannot. I do remember some peripherals with a Hudson branding before some of their games. Pretty much they made top class stuff, and sorta had the reputation of having the "fastest" turbo settings on alot of their controllers over the years. Single best game pad ever made IMHO was their sbom joycard (and yes..lol this is how they branded it) for the saturn. i do believe their perpheral/hardware days ended on the n64? unsure honestly. That controller u mention is essentially the tg16 turbopads..and Hudson even released "premier" versions of it in japan too. While i can't speak on everything they sold in those gens..i will say they made stuff that was on par with hori in my book.
racerxgundam Uhh no... Hudson was a company completely separate from NEC... It is true that they've been making hardware, in the form of peripherals for computers since way back in 1973, they've also been making games for NEC, MSX and Nintendo machines since 1983, they were Nintendo's first licensee after all, and had a strong and close relationship with them, but Hudson only became NEC partners in 1987 when their console prototype they had originally pitched to Nintendo had been rejected, was then picked up by NEC... They've been making Turbo Controllers for the Famicom, and indeed, the MSX, since before they joined forces with NEC, and I have a strong reason to believe that their MSX Famicom controller was released before 1987, because had it been released after, it would probably take the shape of their own console's controller, not Nintendo's... One More Thing! Some NEC computers are natively compatible with MSX controllers, so you could use Hudson's turbo Famicom Controller for the MSX to play PC-98 games if you were using the right model!
Ruko Michiharu Ah my bad kiddo...i always keep thinking that NEC and hudson were the same company due to the tg16...old man memory isnt as trustworthy as it once was :-P ... Quality controllers for their eras. i have a couple here and there. whats weird is that on some of the boxes they REALLY make a point about their turbo functions and their rate of fire!!! you'd think that they were advertising alien tech! XD i would say to cop some..but they tend to be expensive... Is the consensus on nintendo's early hardware/peripherals that they were made in-house?, i have the sneaky suspicion they did alot manufacturing externally while being able to brand it themselves...i have some early hudson and hori stuff that make me wonder...nothing definitive mind you, and i don't think i have read anything to that effect, but i think some plastic molds were getting passed around or something. could be as simple as that the same factory produced for more than one company.
racerxgundam Well, I don't know much about how they were produced, I haven't used many 3rd party controllers in my lifetime, I mostly use Nintendo controllers, even to play non-Nintendo games...
can't go wrong with that stuff usually. Snes 6 button joint is one of my favs. i got a gamecube some months back and i am SHOCKED how much i like that controller...from pics i thought it would be uncomfortable...
Awesome, you really don't see that many proper arcade sticks for the MSX. Had not seen one of these, and now of course I want one :) I have staved off my urge with a Pachinko arcade machine joystick (which of course had a MSX inside).
Mark, (a. loved your show for years, let's get that out of the way) (but, b. I know you love collecting and first party, or time correct stuff) but, Is there any way to build a female-male pinrthrough converter to make Megadrive/Genesis stuff work on an MSX? I've never looked into it and have no idea how the interface pins out in the first place. But it could be a thing.
The price of MSX stuff is steep indeed i've been checking MSX 2 models on ebay over the last year, and they're just too espensive They're a bit cheaper on Yahoo Auction Japan, but still, collecting for this is out of the question for me (unless I find a dirt cheap MSX 2... but that's just not going to happen)
I was able to get an MSX2+ with a refurbished floppy drive off of eBay for $250 + shipping, which wasn't bad at all -- and I've been loving it! If you keep your eyes open, you should eventually be able to find some good deals.
I've had my Nes for almost 25 years, and I've never really stopped playing it, but I've never ever tried the Advantage. It's not like I wouldn't want to, I've never just come across one or got around to getting my own. Someday..
Same here, although I did get an NES Max controller. There was a fight stick size joystick made for an NES clone I would try to get first though just because, well I don't know, it looks cool.
As for the whiners: don't like the Patreon shout-outs at the end? Just click out of the video when they come up. I'm not a fan of them either but whining isn't gonna do you any good.
What're you talking about? His review style has been like this since MARK2, I don't necessarily see a difference with Patreon involved aside from the shoutouts.
+Ambone105 I know exactly how long it takes. I used to do it for a living for a big company. I quit the job because it fucking sucked. But it doesn't take as long as you think, not for what Mark here is doing.
Why can't I find the old ASCII Stick II Turbo AS-3399-FC review? Hoping it can shed some light on the extra ports on the back.
Hi, Mark. Just in case you read this somehow:I LOVE your reviews, they're funny, charming, and you put a lot of effort into them. When I see your videos, they put a big smile on my face and they inspire me and many other people to make reviews.So, I'm going to say this...IGNORE THE HATERS.Just because some dude says that you suck and you do this for views doesn't mean that you have to leave RUclips. There are more people that care about you more in the YT community than what you think. Hell, at this point you shouldn't even care about those people because they don't know what are they talking about, and your content is very well done.
So, please, don't leave RUclips! Ignore all those mean comments and keep doing great reviews.
Have a nice day, Good Sir.
I've got a Joycard Needs for my MSX, and I quite like it -- it's basically a standard NES controller, but with a ridge running along the side that actually makes it a little more comfortable to hold... and with turbo switches for the trigger buttons, of course.
The only downside is that the thing is really dirty, so the up and down arrows on the D-pad sometimes get stuck and trigger left and right intermittently when you hold them. And while I've attempted to get into the thing to clean it, the screws on the back have been stripped bare, so I haven't yet found a way to get inside.
I like the convenient x68000 compatiblity. Cool to see the resemblance to the Advantage. I always liked the ASCII stuff I've had. Thanks for sharing.
Has that Ninja Scroll poster always been there and I just never noticed?
Good anime, nice poster.
they're now working on a second.
+TheOtakuKat don't hold your breath.
I've been doing so since 2008 and now have respiratory problems.
There's a recent CGR episode in which Mark comments something like " - Check the Ninja Scroll poster on the wall" while he was showing something else.
I can't remember exactly, maybe in that episode in which he was preparing all the stuff to move to a different scenario?
It seems that the NES Advantage had different manufacturers over the years though I have always suspected that Ascii was one of them. One that I know for sure was Mitsumi. They have very different boards inside.
Can you do a review for the Ascii Stick Alfa Sega Master System and Ascii Stick PCEngine/TurboGrafx16 versions also?
If only this worked on my Atari 7800 for some Galaga & Ms. Pacman action. It even matches the European 7800 controller.
and what goes grate with msx watching ninja scroll
lol that Pacman shirt, someone just bought that for me as a birthday present last week
I want something like this for playing classic emulated games on my PC.
You could get a nes advantage and a nes to usb adaptor.
Apparently this one also works on the Sharp X68000, Sweet!!
I've seen a controller for the MSX by Hudson that's basically a Famicom controller with a 9 pin connector and Turbo Switches, it looks sweet and since it's by Hudson I bet it's a quality product!
way..way back in the day Hudson (which was essentially NEC then) mostly did hardware stuff before they got into software.....I THINK. If i could read Japanese i could have told u definitively but alas..i cannot. I do remember some peripherals with a Hudson branding before some of their games. Pretty much they made top class stuff, and sorta had the reputation of having the "fastest" turbo settings on alot of their controllers over the years. Single best game pad ever made IMHO was their sbom joycard (and yes..lol this is how they branded it) for the saturn. i do believe their perpheral/hardware days ended on the n64? unsure honestly. That controller u mention is essentially the tg16 turbopads..and Hudson even released "premier" versions of it in japan too.
While i can't speak on everything they sold in those gens..i will say they made stuff that was on par with hori in my book.
racerxgundam Uhh no... Hudson was a company completely separate from NEC... It is true that they've been making hardware, in the form of peripherals for computers since way back in 1973, they've also been making games for NEC, MSX and Nintendo machines since 1983, they were Nintendo's first licensee after all, and had a strong and close relationship with them, but Hudson only became NEC partners in 1987 when their console prototype they had originally pitched to Nintendo had been rejected, was then picked up by NEC...
They've been making Turbo Controllers for the Famicom, and indeed, the MSX, since before they joined forces with NEC, and I have a strong reason to believe that their MSX Famicom controller was released before 1987, because had it been released after, it would probably take the shape of their own console's controller, not Nintendo's...
One More Thing!
Some NEC computers are natively compatible with MSX controllers, so you could use Hudson's turbo Famicom Controller for the MSX to play PC-98 games if you were using the right model!
Ruko Michiharu
Ah my bad kiddo...i always keep thinking that NEC and hudson were the same company due to the tg16...old man memory isnt as trustworthy as it once was :-P ...
Quality controllers for their eras. i have a couple here and there. whats weird is that on some of the boxes they REALLY make a point about their turbo functions and their rate of fire!!! you'd think that they were advertising alien tech! XD i would say to cop some..but they tend to be expensive...
Is the consensus on nintendo's early hardware/peripherals that they were made in-house?, i have the sneaky suspicion they did alot manufacturing externally while being able to brand it themselves...i have some early hudson and hori stuff that make me wonder...nothing definitive mind you, and i don't think i have read anything to that effect, but i think some plastic molds were getting passed around or something. could be as simple as that the same factory produced for more than one company.
racerxgundam Well, I don't know much about how they were produced, I haven't used many 3rd party controllers in my lifetime, I mostly use Nintendo controllers, even to play non-Nintendo games...
can't go wrong with that stuff usually. Snes 6 button joint is one of my favs. i got a gamecube some months back and i am SHOCKED how much i like that controller...from pics i thought it would be uncomfortable...
Awesome, you really don't see that many proper arcade sticks for the MSX. Had not seen one of these, and now of course I want one :)
I have staved off my urge with a Pachinko arcade machine joystick (which of course had a MSX inside).
I'd LOVE to play with Mark's stick.
I miss the 80s so much.
We all need more CGR … EDF EDF EDF…
Because friends don't let friends use the good controller. Lmao so true.
Mark knows the rule. If you go over to a friend's house you gotta use the crappy controller.
Would this work on a Commodore Amiga?
I assume it wouldn't because sega megadrive pads work on an Amiga and this doesn't work on a megadrive.
Mark, (a. loved your show for years, let's get that out of the way) (but, b. I know you love collecting and first party, or time correct stuff) but, Is there any way to build a female-male pinrthrough converter to make Megadrive/Genesis stuff work on an MSX? I've never looked into it and have no idea how the interface pins out in the first place. But it could be a thing.
the Asciiware PlayStation stick is pretty great. Definitely a trusted company.
one of the better episodes in a while but please some cable management please!
That's some messy cable porn right there.
Ninja Scroll
I read your comment in Ragnars voice, made me laugh!
why is he no longer in the intergalactic space arcade ???
My guess is his banishment from Earth has come to its end. It kinda had to; the events of Earth Defense Force 2017 are supposed to happen next year...
Mark, how to travel to 2084 and meet the Future Mark? I want to see him so much!!! X)
new glassware you say... Shut up and take my money, please sir :D
...I miss the "Banished From Earth.." intro.
He ditn't mention that the B & A buttons on the msx ascll stick are reversed,trough it's no coicidance that this msx arcade stick was made in 1988.
God tier controller here
both are great and amazing just saved you 6 mins
The price of MSX stuff is steep indeed
i've been checking MSX 2 models on ebay over the last year, and they're just too espensive
They're a bit cheaper on Yahoo Auction Japan, but still, collecting for this is out of the question for me (unless I find a dirt cheap MSX 2... but that's just not going to happen)
Collecting for the msx is pricey but there is a flash cart for it.
yes, thankfully.
I was able to get an MSX2+ with a refurbished floppy drive off of eBay for $250 + shipping, which wasn't bad at all -- and I've been loving it! If you keep your eyes open, you should eventually be able to find some good deals.
Good I've got mine back in 97. Dirty cheap.
If the stick is the same used in the advantage then I say stay away. No microswitches means the stick feels mushy and imprecise.
Mark has the same Pac-Man T-Shirt that I have.
me too
CGR4LIFE CGRARMY.
Well this made me want to play with my NES advantage, time to whip out the NES
Same here, time to get my Xevious on!
I've had my Nes for almost 25 years, and I've never really stopped playing it, but I've never ever tried the Advantage. It's not like I wouldn't want to, I've never just come across one or got around to getting my own. Someday..
Same here, although I did get an NES Max controller. There was a fight stick size joystick made for an NES clone I would try to get first though just because, well I don't know, it looks cool.
+GreyMasker good call
+Horzuhammer I actually finally got one, got lucky at a thrift, can't wait to dig in
Awesome 😈
I don't like advantage controllers they feel weird. I like controllers like the original nes controller.
Gotta have turbo buttons, ain't nobody got time to mash buttons.
Oh, is this a matter of time? XD
CGR4LIFE
TUURRRRBBBBOOOO!!!!
I miss CGR
why you no review xbox games?
Maybe nobody sends him Xbox games
>Classic Game Room
and your point is ? ...
I miss CGR Undertow :-(
2:18 RUBBER FEET HAHA FEET OF RUBBER HA THAT CHALLENGE BTW RUBBER FEET HAHA
I'll just use my keyboard
Boo
As for the whiners: don't like the Patreon shout-outs at the end? Just click out of the video when they come up. I'm not a fan of them either but whining isn't gonna do you any good.
Omg
It is classic game room, begged of money just to do half assed reviews of games. hurrah.
Half ass? These reviews take a long time to edit, each one is made with effort.
What're you talking about? His review style has been like this since MARK2, I don't necessarily see a difference with Patreon involved aside from the shoutouts.
Some of you guys are so sensitive/butthurt about the patreon stuff. The show needs that support to live, fucking deal with it already.
you have no idea how to edit video, didn't you?
it's take long time and not easy!
+Ambone105
I know exactly how long it takes. I used to do it for a living for a big company. I quit the job because it fucking sucked. But it doesn't take as long as you think, not for what Mark here is doing.