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I think the beak is probably? The same style of 2D tv system as on the F22. . . Stealthy And agile! And I think the V shape is meant to bounce radar waves away to other angles than they came from, kinda like the rear shape of the B2 😊
I already listed a few ideas, however what I really wanted to talk about is The SR-72's name!😅 Instead of Son of Blackbird I think it should be The Dark Phoenix! Way better name, the program like a Phoenix rises from the ashes, stays with the "Dark" theme from pop culture, it'd be an homage for the Mach 5 AIM-54 Phoenix, and for all the comic fans! The SR-72 Dark Phoenix!👍
As others have said the NGAD won't have a single engine and will be much larger. I will add that it almost certainly will be a TWIN seat plane. One pilot and one drone operator. America is building this plane to fight in the Pacific over areas many thousands of miles in size without suitable airstrips. Range, speed and longevity are top priorities.
@@c0mputaradds performance and range. Bird can be bigger and carry more. Supercruise can probably be guaranteed. Especially if the adaptive cycle engine programs pull through. And perhaps most importantly dual engines provide more power for onboard systems which is becoming more and more important.
Excellent point and completely makes sense, especially given the vast ranges in the Pacific. For this video, I tried to stay true to the image that Lockheed released, but I am already working on a follow up with a larger version of this jet. Thanks for commenting!
Name: Crow, Raven, or Corvus Reason: in concert with its drone wingmen, the NGAD is basically the center of a flock of these birds and flock of Corvus birds is a "Murder". and evocative name and given the Corvus' reputation for intelligence as well, it seeks to fit.
@@cristianocollarin2236 Wait... the F-111 "Aardvark" (Easy to remember because it is so damned strange but likely named for its long-ish schnoz)? A Variant? Wouldn't EF-111 "Raven" be like the F-16 being a nicknamed "Viper" (a name shared with the AH-1z), and not "Fighting Falcon" as it is official callsign?
For the name, I was leaning towards Owl (or some variant thereof). Reason being that the focus here is on stealth and being able to take down the target before they even know what hit them. The owl, among all other birds of prey, is noted for being silent in flight and capable of ambushes even in densely packed forests. So much so that owl wings are a major study topic in biomimicry for reducing noise in fans, wings, helicopter blades, boat propellors, etc.
My guess is 2 adaptive cycle engines on a large frame with no legacy control surfaces. Almost like a flying wing/delta wing hybrid. Extended range for Pacific theatre. 2 seater w/ability to be flown remotely in high risk/high altitude missions. Ability to command and control drones. Designed with next gen weapons in mind.
I see no reason for a manned aircraft at all. These planes could be flown from anywhere on Earth. Also removing the crew would allow the aircraft to maneuver at forces well above a sustained 10Gs, the human limit. If two truly stealth fighters meet in aerial combat, it may quickly break down into a gunfight so the most maneuverable plane wins.
I would call it Raven. Ravens have black feathers, they blend in especially at night. Ravens are incredibly intelligent birds capable of sharing their knowledge with their offspring. They've been observed making and using tools to accomplish their goals. I think this is quite fitting for a stealth aircraft that communicates with its own drones.
Call me crazy but I think the Darkstar was a preview of the NGAD more so than the SR71 successor. Regardless I'm excited to see the new generation of fighters.
@@WolfeSaberThat's my bet, Photogs model probably isn't far off, just a bit smaller than the likely result. 2 shrouded engines, Twin seat (Maybe tandem)
Considering the Viper name is just a nickname for the F-16(it’s officially Fighting Falcon) I think Viper is appropriate. Plus it kinda looks like the Viper in Battlestar Galactica.
Interestingly one of the original proposed names for the F-16 was the Viper due to the orignal BSG show being on the air at the time in the late 1970s. The name was rejected because a general famously said that he didn't want a fighter to be named "after some snake" The pilots and maintainers continued to call it the Viper anyway, and there is an award given to the top F-16 pilot each year which has the name Viper in it. Officially it is the "Fighting Falcon" but the latest F-16, the F-16V is referred to as the Viper. Here is a video I did about the F-16, including a the story of the naming with the full quote from that general: ruclips.net/video/0P5Xmas0Lkg/видео.html
@@Camilo_Z yes of course Apache, kiyowa, comanche, blackhawk and my favorite Iroquois. Hmm I mean they code the Cobra and Viper (not sure but I think they are in Huey family so they are Iroquois) cant wait for Thog to tackle about helos.
Nah, it must be a bird that annoys the heck out of you so you get aggressive. Especially one that you can't see. That is the association (and basically the Job of this airplane).
Yes, that lever will have to rest on a solid fulcrum. Like Physics. Directional signaling and Electromagnetic suppression/stealth might be a factor. Maybe they should build it from Plywood. Let's not forget that "Stealth" or "The RCS-reduction of certain shapes" was calculated by a sovjet scientist, in the 40's i believe. During the 90's Lockheed bought a ton of old Yakovlev patents and paperwork. Because Yeltsin the Drunk Bear had sold out the Industry to USA (Remember cheap fuel)? Yet Russia Never put a Stealth plane into production. Have you wondered why they only did so, AFTER the USA did? Because they remembered the Realities of the cold war. No matter how stealth your plane is, It can't fly forever. And an ICBM has no problem hitting an airfield. And even the biggest Bombers don't have the firepower to "first strike" a country into submission. It is either conventional warfare or "Game Over". And "game over" is bad for MIC-Business.
The NGAD, in that design concept, looks like the fabled F-19 Ghostrider without vertical surfaces. I vote the F-47 Thundershadow, because with the A-10 still in service I can't see a Thunderbolt III!!
Nice job on the CGI model, but no way this will be their NGAD prototype. It's too small and the single engine design won't meet the range requirements for NGAD, which are much longer than the F-22 and F-35. I believe this design is more likely to be one of the NGAD X-Plane technology demonstrators that Kendall revealed a few weeks ago.
The NGAD will be highly integrated with the B-21 Raider. Bomber, drones, and NGAD along with the F-35 will work as a team to achieve air dominance. A dog fighter or extreme maneuverability is not the primary goal of this platform (ex the legacy P-51 mustang is WAY more maneuverable than any current jet fighter aircraft, but wouldn’t stand a chance in modern air combat warfare). I vote to call it the Sabre, Shadow, Savage. Too bad Reaper has already been used.
Highly integrated with stuff that flies half it's speed? And they probably out-turn it at low speed. WHY WOULD YOU EVEN DO THAT? It's supposed to go HIGH and QUICK for mIssile dispersion and Interceptions. This is not the F-35 program. the "One Plane does it all" stuff. If it would be that, with all those requirements, you would see the DoD go bust before it is paid.
It looks like it might be the fastest combat aircraft we've seen in a long while. If they have the right materials. I wouldn't be suprised if this ends up being a mach 3+ capable aircraft.
It will be aerodynamically unstable. Most electronically-stabilized aircraft are not fighters, more bombers that are sub-sonic. Expect a few accidents in the flight test program while they rediscover the laws of areoynamic stability. Again.
@@matsv201 Most fighter aircraft are at least marginally unstable to make them more manoevrable. But they can still fly without electronic flight stability aids, just like the F-18A/F (with difficulty). But aircraft like NGAD and B21 etc tail-less aircraft are completely aerodynamically unstable, not at all manoevrable and difficult (or impossible?) to land in a strong cross-wind. You just have to eject - a very expensive way to fly an aircraft.
The grooves down the sides of the fuselage are very interesting, I’m pretty sure those are being used to provide some of the aerodynamic stability lost with the removal of vertical stabilizers.
All good suggestions, I believe the CIA's A-12 was codenamed the Archangel - and was made by Lockheed so I could see this being the Archangel II. Here's a video I did about it, and how the CIA came up with an ingenious way to buy titanium from the Soviets: ruclips.net/video/9mVXdo0QmPo/видео.htmlsi=swjJ_knVi9K8gVm_
Great video. Please more on the NGAD- topic!! And by the way: the shape showed by Skunkworks may also resemble the silouette of a single-engine test article flown or still flying in Groom Lake.
Good Artwork, but I believe it will be about twice the size shown against the Drones and directional controls will use engine bleed air to aid in maneuverability akin to the Hawker vent ducts. It will have huge internal stowage.
Valkyrie In honor of the fighting spirit of America’s fallen heroes. In Norse mythology, Valkyrie would ride into battle or fly with wings over the battlefield to escort the souls of their chosen fallen warriors to Valhalla.
I really like how the rear chines above the engine provide yaw stability when all flight surfaces are centered, so yaw control is only done by the split rudders when needed.
Interesting concept - just don't land in a strong cross-wind! Vectored thrust can only do so much for you. Taking off will not be easy either. It is an understatement that stealth and low observability will come at a cost of manouvreability. Just don't expect good outcomes in a traditional arial dogfight.
If it even manages to get into Chinese airspace.. Don't forget that Both Russia and China have top tier AA defense systems.. And they are all MUCH MUCH cheaper than any fancy jet.
@@RED--01 And about twice as fast. I think, one single Iskander missile delivers as much explosives as an F-35. The F-35 just drops smaller warheads but more of them. But i don't know exactly, how much explosives there is, in a 2000lbs bomb.
Great work, Tog! There are so many systems designed or being designed for having advantages for success/combat, they're needed as everything is getting more and more complex and the capability to do more than ever, just fascinating. It's always what can be conceived, then made, then counter. I bet the warfare that is going on now, like in Ukraine, though they are given old stockpiles that are being used up, while those new weapons aren't used to the point of what is being revealed, since the other side(s) want to know the capabilities and weaknesses and how to counter and defeat them. That's just my guess. I'm not too good at naming names, the only thought of I could come up with, by the overall design and shape is Assassin, since it looks more sleek and deadly.
Assassin could work, others have suggested Raven, Wyvern, Ghost, and Phantom II to name a few. Thanks for commenting, for being a member, and now you know!
@@PilotPhotog The F4 series Already claimed Phantom II and its' name predecessor the FH-1 claimed Phantom. EF-111A were known as Ravens. Now a Ghost with a flock of Ghost Bats.......Hmmmm Sticking with Falcon bird theme; Peregrine?
Specter. Also I don't see something with "Arid Dominance" in its acronym giving up maneuverability/range/payload... think this platform is going to be a lot bigger than that and my reason is the Pacific Ocean's size. As far as weapons go if they go with something like Peregrine you get a full AMRAAM in have a half size package. I see that being more useful than a jet that can go really far and only carry 4-6 AA Missiles. Just my 2 cents.
I can't help but think that keeping the plane stable at low speeds (i.e. landing) is going to be tricky. Not much margin for error with in-line control surfaces, so unless AI does some kind of magic, this thing may be coming in fast and require some seriously long runways.
Maybe they could design a system that allows for vertical stabs to pop up and drop. Its never been done before but it would allow for both maneuverability with stabs up and stealth and distance with stabs . I mean they have fold in wings… why not try fold in vert stabs? The f35 did all kinds of crazy things… there needs to be something crazier a new game changer.
Speaking of likewise, the new Boeing airliner design with the ridiculous long and thin wing for high speed cruise (where do you put the flaps?), but plus truss-bracing with albeit some lift (not new, back to Bellanca in the 1930s). Can't wait until on approach at slow speed and icing occurs and the plane drops out of the sky cause they didn't learn lessons on the ATR-42/72 icing incidents/accidents?
@@iceebearhawaii1735 Boeing Airliner still has a rudder though. It CAN change direction when attempting a landing at slightly less than ideal crosswinds.
Some other great names for the fighter would be Torrent, Banshee, Vampire, Warlock, Condor, Baron, Zombie, Wolf, Coyote, Rattler, Python, Adder, Maelstrom, Executioner, Sheriff, Constable, Sky Demon, Warden, Cyclone, Spirit, Ghost, Avenger, Scout
Thanks for the vid, nicely put together. Though I think it's going to have two engines and be significantly larger than you show here. For the future (Pacific theater) it needs to be able to carry larger longer range missiles and have significantly longer range. It will need more size for that. IMO.
You want a suggestion for a name for the Air Force NGAD. I suggest, "Goodnight, Moon". Yes, it's 2 words and three syllables, but the concept is so apt.
Another great post Juan, I suspect the NGAD's significant departure from current operational "stealthy fighter" designs, means NGAD is more aerodynamically unstable than its predecessors. If so, logically that leads to need for a flight management system of superior capabilities. Thus looking forward, the man in the loop becomes NGAD's weakest link. A romantic notion...if the flight management system were to monitor pilot physiology. It could limit the aircraft to fly only to the pilot's limits despite being capable of harder maneuvers. Couple enhanced manned aircraft performance with unmanned wingman performance...potentially potent. Especially with SEAD and other interdiction missions.
Thank you Scott, I think the NGAD and Raider will be the first of "optionally manned" combat aircraft. Perhaps use it in a crewed mode for super sensitive missions, and have it fly unmanned for routine reconnaissance or high risk missions such as SEAD.
@@PilotPhotog You are starting to ask a lot of this one airframe. Now imagine if you could afford as many as you want. What happens to the rest of the Army?
cool video - thanks for making me aware of this super amazing project. As for a name, my suggestion is "Wraith" - mostly because it sounds cool and kinda goes with it's intended use (IMO)
I believe The NGAD might have a 20mm Vulcan cannon just like every other fighter after the Vietnam war. However If the plane is that size then the gun might only carry about 400-450 rounds of ammunition.
To be fair, I've seen some concept renderings showing a larger, two-seater version. I will have to update my model for my next NGAD video. Thanks for commenting!
Just don't make the mistake the pentagon did in V iet Nam with the F-4. F-4 was 2 Huge Engines w/Wings, optimized for Missiles AND NO GUN. The Lil very maneuverable MIG's could kick their azz in a Dog Fight. SOooo if Take-Em-Out-At-A-Distance is the game - better make damn sure they can.
What is going to explode your minds, is that they are working on a cold engine design, meaning the exhaust will be cold or very close to ambient temperature, not hot. That will change everything in air dominance, it will also have more thrust to weight ratio.
Last comment - Why Mach 3+? 1. New stealth coatings can handle the heat. 2. The long narrow F-111 had a total after burner top speed of Mach 2.5. Remove all surfaces that do not contribute to lift, increase thrust 140%-180% (using F-22 & F-32 numbers) then increase altitude to say 70K FT - it’s not hard to see that Mach 3+ over the Pacific is not only possible, but desirable. Haha - I wonder if Lockheeds work on the X-59 is working into their NGAD submission? Remake you video with some of these ideas. I think what you have is the proof of concept design - smaller single engine one-off and not what they are actually going to submit.
The way i see it is NGAD and SR-72 darkstar are identical except the former has a tailfin while NGAD doesn't . So stablization will be different and the flight control computer will have to factor that into account. Of course both aircraft will have divergent features and forge their own development path. Like NGAD which have secretly flown, darkstar is rumored to exist despite being portrayed as a fictional aircraft only in Top Gun movie
@@PilotPhotog wow, thinking that you make the 3d model, and the animation together with the good narration makes you a genius. Wow. Please make some more videos. ❤️❤️
": RADAR " is antique compared to what is available today for detection . Many countries are adopting 'light detection' modules . A permanent beam of light that when penetrated emits a warning where the penetration occurred . Inexpensive and easily maintained with a minimal force on the ground protecting and maintaining it. Need to know more ... ? ....
I like the name “rapier.” A light sword that must be used with surgical precision. I also like the names “Valkyrie” and “Siren.” Although Valkyrie was used for an aircraft already, it was used for a prototype, super sonic bomber that never saw service.
Ngad fighters will be twin engine which is pretty much confirmed. And it will be a massive fighter carrying a lot of fuel and ammunition as it's designed with the pacifin in mind.
Honestly the whole concept is a mistake. Hasn't Ukraine shown us that mass matters? I'd rather have 1000 f22 or something similar than 300 NGAD. They should be trying to build a mass producible fighter that costs 100 million each not 300 million each. If a war breaks out you need an aircraft that you could build 100 of in a year to replace loses. It's like we never learn.
@@amazinkay4512 US is not lacking mass by any means. However, SEAD and establishing superiority in contested airspace is impossible with just mass. ESPECIALLY if the shores of that airspace is like 1000 miles away. You absolutely NEED a fighter that is very stealthy, fast, and far-reacing for situations like this.
@@amazinkay4512No. Ukraine has taught us that mass alone is not enough. Russia has mass numbers and they still couldn't achieve superiority in the air or on the ground.
I have a hard time believing NGAD won’t be a 2-seater. Someone to handle interfacing with various unmanned assets so the pilot can focus on flying. If that’s the case, the Lockheed concept would be quite a bit larger since that cockpit would be for 2 instead of 1
@@PilotPhotog one thing I’ve wondered about is, with the stated goal of much increased range necessitating increased fuel capacity, would a larger airframe be used solely to carry more gas or would they sacrifice a bit of the gas tank to increase internal weapons capacity? Would the Air Force be fine with 4x AIM-260 like in your model if the platform had 2.5x the combat radius of the F-22, or would 6 or even 8 (I’m aware 8 is pushing it, but this could potentially be quite a large aircraft) AIM-260 be worth only 2x or 1.8x the range? That would enable only a couple of airframes to do a lot. And also, would the NGAD even need to have huge internal weapons storage? Would it only need enough space for 2x hypersonic AWACS killer (or satellite killer) missiles, which is probably enough space for ~4 regular missiles, and offload more carrying capacity onto CCA drones that could fly 25+ miles ahead of the NGAD and carry 1-2x AIM-260 each? And how do directed energy weapons and the associated infrastructure factor in? I think the best and most likely approach is to mix increased fuel and increased weapons capacity, so that the NGAD will be augmented by the networked ecosystem it’s embedded in rather than being reliant on it.
@@benbowlandthanks for commenting, my thoughts: I believe more range would be a priority, having a fighter that can fly farther without refueling and relying on tankers is essential in a near peer environment. The reduced weapons load could be compensated by teamed drones that can be launched from smaller bases or even ships along the fighters route.
@@PilotPhotog I think it all depends on the level of confidence in this new unmanned kill web's resistance to degradation from adversary UCAVs and EW assets. I'd think there would probably still be people high-up in the air force pushing for NGAD (or I guess technically PCA) to be able to execute high priority missions on it's own, but maybe they are so confident in this whole ecosystem that it isn't necessary.
Names - here are three in my order of preference: 1. Vortex 2. Helix, or 3. Scythe. These are names that are not warmed-over names from WWII. The first name implies the NGAD is the center of the Vortex - the center of the storm - an apt metaphor.
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I think the beak is probably? The same style of 2D tv system as on the F22. . .
Stealthy
And agile!
And I think the V shape is meant to bounce radar waves away to other angles than they came from, kinda like the rear shape of the B2 😊
I already listed a few ideas, however what I really wanted to talk about is The SR-72's name!😅
Instead of Son of Blackbird I think it should be The Dark Phoenix! Way better name, the program like a Phoenix rises from the ashes, stays with the "Dark" theme from pop culture, it'd be an homage for the Mach 5 AIM-54 Phoenix, and for all the comic fans! The SR-72 Dark Phoenix!👍
Names for NGAD--
Terminator, Hunter, Starlight, Venom, Magician, Skynet, Legion, Predator, Firehawk, Ghost Shell, Diamond Dragon*, Nexus*, and Indoraptor!👍
Scorpion
Good names:
Glaive
Ballista
Mustang II
Black Widow III
Peregrine
Gyr Falcon
Golden Eagle
Silver Hawk
Nightshade
Estoc
Hitman
Arrow
Rush Limbaugh
As others have said the NGAD won't have a single engine and will be much larger.
I will add that it almost certainly will be a TWIN seat plane. One pilot and one drone operator.
America is building this plane to fight in the Pacific over areas many thousands of miles in size without suitable airstrips. Range, speed and longevity are top priorities.
Yup
Yup Yup
Is a double engine more fuel efficient even at the expense of fuel space? Or is it just for the redundancy?
@@c0mputaradds performance and range. Bird can be bigger and carry more. Supercruise can probably be guaranteed. Especially if the adaptive cycle engine programs pull through. And perhaps most importantly dual engines provide more power for onboard systems which is becoming more and more important.
Excellent point and completely makes sense, especially given the vast ranges in the Pacific. For this video, I tried to stay true to the image that Lockheed released, but I am already working on a follow up with a larger version of this jet. Thanks for commenting!
Name: Crow, Raven, or Corvus
Reason: in concert with its drone wingmen, the NGAD is basically the center of a flock of these birds and flock of Corvus birds is a "Murder". and evocative name and given the Corvus' reputation for intelligence as well, it seeks to fit.
Wonderful suggestion and explanation!
agreed
Raven was already used for the EF111
@@cristianocollarin2236
Wait... the F-111 "Aardvark" (Easy to remember because it is so damned strange but likely named for its long-ish schnoz)? A Variant? Wouldn't EF-111 "Raven" be like the F-16 being a nicknamed "Viper" (a name shared with the AH-1z), and not "Fighting Falcon" as it is official callsign?
There's also Rook, Jay, Jackdaw, and Magpie in the same family to pull names from.
For the name, I was leaning towards Owl (or some variant thereof). Reason being that the focus here is on stealth and being able to take down the target before they even know what hit them. The owl, among all other birds of prey, is noted for being silent in flight and capable of ambushes even in densely packed forests. So much so that owl wings are a major study topic in biomimicry for reducing noise in fans, wings, helicopter blades, boat propellors, etc.
Anytime you have an engineering problem, look to nature. It usually has already solved it.
My guess is 2 adaptive cycle engines on a large frame with no legacy control surfaces. Almost like a flying wing/delta wing hybrid. Extended range for Pacific theatre. 2 seater w/ability to be flown remotely in high risk/high altitude missions. Ability to command and control drones. Designed with next gen weapons in mind.
This precisely what Binkov's channel has said in their coverage of this platform.
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I see no reason for a manned aircraft at all. These planes could be flown from anywhere on Earth. Also removing the crew would allow the aircraft to maneuver at forces well above a sustained 10Gs, the human limit.
If two truly stealth fighters meet in aerial combat, it may quickly break down into a gunfight so the most maneuverable plane wins.
My favorite Lockheed product is the F-104, so my vote for the NGAD name goes to Starfighter II.
Mine as well call it widow maker if we're talking F-104
YF23 was way ahead of its time
I would call it Raven. Ravens have black feathers, they blend in especially at night. Ravens are incredibly intelligent birds capable of sharing their knowledge with their offspring. They've been observed making and using tools to accomplish their goals. I think this is quite fitting for a stealth aircraft that communicates with its own drones.
Raven is already in use. Its the name for ELINT aircraft of any time and would be confusing.
Call me crazy but I think the Darkstar was a preview of the NGAD more so than the SR71 successor. Regardless I'm excited to see the new generation of fighters.
Successor huh 😂
Mach ten, open the payload bay, oops the wind took the rear half of our airplane off. sorry, mom, not coming home today....
NGAD won’t be a single engine , no chance
I have on good authority it will be one and half (1.5) engines
It could still have two, just one exhaust pipe.
@@WolfeSaberThat's my bet, Photogs model probably isn't far off, just a bit smaller than the likely result.
2 shrouded engines, Twin seat (Maybe tandem)
What if it has one huge engine?
It will have no engines, it'll run on Lockheeds stock prices
Considering the Viper name is just a nickname for the F-16(it’s officially Fighting Falcon) I think Viper is appropriate. Plus it kinda looks like the Viper in Battlestar Galactica.
Interestingly one of the original proposed names for the F-16 was the Viper due to the orignal BSG show being on the air at the time in the late 1970s. The name was rejected because a general famously said that he didn't want a fighter to be named "after some snake" The pilots and maintainers continued to call it the Viper anyway, and there is an award given to the top F-16 pilot each year which has the name Viper in it. Officially it is the "Fighting Falcon" but the latest F-16, the F-16V is referred to as the Viper. Here is a video I did about the F-16, including a the story of the naming with the full quote from that general: ruclips.net/video/0P5Xmas0Lkg/видео.html
I thought snakes are for Choppers
@@DOI_ARTS AH-1 Cobra agrees with you. I need to do a video on that copter.
Werent their names taken from north american tribes?@@DOI_ARTS
@@Camilo_Z yes of course Apache, kiyowa, comanche, blackhawk and my favorite Iroquois. Hmm I mean they code the Cobra and Viper (not sure but I think they are in Huey family so they are Iroquois) cant wait for Thog to tackle about helos.
My favourite name for NGAD would be "Phantom III". It's Name would be a warning for every adversary: you're the prey, I am your curse!
Yes. This thing will be virtually invisible, especially within a swarm of drones.
but there is also an f-4 phantom that is not similar to ngad
Now you are just superstitious.
Im hyped as hell for both NGAD programs. If they truely have adaptive cycle engines theyre going to be game changers.
I think it should be called, “The dagger” because it resembles something that can pierce anything.
If it has to be named after a bird, Raven is always the first that comes to mind.
Yeah, I like Raven or Peregrine. For some reason, Howler pops into my mind as well. I’d like to see a plane named the Howler, lol..
Nah, it must be a bird that annoys the heck out of you so you get aggressive. Especially one that you can't see. That is the association (and basically the Job of this airplane).
I can't imagine that they would leak the even the general shape of this plane until it publicly revealed.
I think wraith would be a suitable name for the NGAD considering the level of stealth technology that it will leverage.
Yes, that lever will have to rest on a solid fulcrum. Like Physics. Directional signaling and Electromagnetic suppression/stealth might be a factor. Maybe they should build it from Plywood. Let's not forget that "Stealth" or "The RCS-reduction of certain shapes" was calculated by a sovjet scientist, in the 40's i believe. During the 90's Lockheed bought a ton of old Yakovlev patents and paperwork. Because Yeltsin the Drunk Bear had sold out the Industry to USA (Remember cheap fuel)? Yet Russia Never put a Stealth plane into production. Have you wondered why they only did so, AFTER the USA did? Because they remembered the Realities of the cold war. No matter how stealth your plane is, It can't fly forever. And an ICBM has no problem hitting an airfield. And even the biggest Bombers don't have the firepower to "first strike" a country into submission. It is either conventional warfare or "Game Over". And "game over" is bad for MIC-Business.
The NGAD, in that design concept, looks like the fabled F-19 Ghostrider without vertical surfaces. I vote the F-47 Thundershadow, because with the A-10 still in service I can't see a Thunderbolt III!!
If this concept is similar to what the real thing is,the jet could be more of a delta wing fighter.
Nice job on the CGI model, but no way this will be their NGAD prototype. It's too small and the single engine design won't meet the range requirements for NGAD, which are much longer than the F-22 and F-35.
I believe this design is more likely to be one of the NGAD X-Plane technology demonstrators that Kendall revealed a few weeks ago.
Good points and I can see it being a larger and possibly two seat aircraft, I will make a follow up video with an updated model.
@@PilotPhotog Yes, hunt those clicks.
The NGAD will be highly integrated with the B-21 Raider. Bomber, drones, and NGAD along with the F-35 will work as a team to achieve air dominance. A dog fighter or extreme maneuverability is not the primary goal of this platform (ex the legacy P-51 mustang is WAY more maneuverable than any current jet fighter aircraft, but wouldn’t stand a chance in modern air combat warfare).
I vote to call it the Sabre, Shadow, Savage. Too bad Reaper has already been used.
Highly integrated with stuff that flies half it's speed? And they probably out-turn it at low speed. WHY WOULD YOU EVEN DO THAT? It's supposed to go HIGH and QUICK for mIssile dispersion and Interceptions. This is not the F-35 program. the "One Plane does it all" stuff. If it would be that, with all those requirements, you would see the DoD go bust before it is paid.
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It looks like it might be the fastest combat aircraft we've seen in a long while. If they have the right materials. I wouldn't be suprised if this ends up being a mach 3+ capable aircraft.
It will be aerodynamically unstable. Most electronically-stabilized aircraft are not fighters, more bombers that are sub-sonic.
Expect a few accidents in the flight test program while they rediscover the laws of areoynamic stability. Again.
@@alant383 Both F22 and Gripen is aerodynamically unstable, and they both doing supersonic with no problem
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Most fighter aircraft are at least marginally unstable to make them more manoevrable. But they can still fly without electronic flight stability aids, just like the F-18A/F (with difficulty). But aircraft like NGAD and B21 etc tail-less aircraft are completely aerodynamically unstable, not at all manoevrable and difficult (or impossible?) to land in a strong cross-wind. You just have to eject - a very expensive way to fly an aircraft.
@@alant383 F22 and gripen is totalt ustable. There is video of both losing there stability
Phantom III. Paying homage to previous generations.
That would be very cool - I am actually working on an F-4 video
@@PilotPhotog will be watching!
I was also thinking Phantom III - here's another vote for that! 😸
The grooves down the sides of the fuselage are very interesting, I’m pretty sure those are being used to provide some of the aerodynamic stability lost with the removal of vertical stabilizers.
That stability helps in straight lines, but how do you "return to base"?
Just a few name ideas - Broadsword, Ghost, Shadow, Wraith, Archangel, Excaliber, Rapier, SkyKnight....
Wraith and archangel are sweet
All good suggestions, I believe the CIA's A-12 was codenamed the Archangel - and was made by Lockheed so I could see this being the Archangel II. Here's a video I did about it, and how the CIA came up with an ingenious way to buy titanium from the Soviets: ruclips.net/video/9mVXdo0QmPo/видео.htmlsi=swjJ_knVi9K8gVm_
@@PilotPhotog Why not call it Jesus? So everybody knows, Armageddon is here.
Great video. Please more on the NGAD- topic!! And by the way: the shape showed by Skunkworks may also resemble the silouette of a single-engine test article flown or still flying in Groom Lake.
Good Artwork, but I believe it will be about twice the size shown against the Drones and directional controls will use engine bleed air to aid in maneuverability akin to the Hawker vent ducts. It will have huge internal stowage.
Yeah, like room for two hypersonic missiles or 4 lrasms. Or whatever the future badass missiles are that we haven't been shown yet.
Valkyrie
In honor of the fighting spirit of America’s fallen heroes. In Norse mythology, Valkyrie would ride into battle or fly with wings over the battlefield to escort the souls of their chosen fallen warriors to Valhalla.
I like it, but I believe there is already a Valkyrie drone - thanks for commenting!
@@PilotPhotog Honor of the fighting spirit of America’s fallen heroes by driving the US into bankruptcy!
I really like how the rear chines above the engine provide yaw stability when all flight surfaces are centered, so yaw control is only done by the split rudders when needed.
Anyone remember the movie Stealth? I do. The NGAD has a similar design to the movie's AI drone design. Also this was in 2005....
The YF-23 was ahead of its time
I played this game back in the 80s on the Commodore 64. The game? F19 Stealth Fighter by Microprose.
Yes, the Graphics were Blocky enough for that one.
Interesting concept - just don't land in a strong cross-wind! Vectored thrust can only do so much for you. Taking off will not be easy either.
It is an understatement that stealth and low observability will come at a cost of manouvreability. Just don't expect good outcomes in a traditional arial dogfight.
Man that 3D model looks PERFECT
It is a bit on the nose, but I would call the NGAD "Dragon Slayer" as the Chinese J20 is called "Mighty Dragon".
If it even manages to get into Chinese airspace..
Don't forget that Both Russia and China have top tier AA defense systems..
And they are all MUCH MUCH cheaper than any fancy jet.
@@RED--01 And about twice as fast. I think, one single Iskander missile delivers as much explosives as an F-35. The F-35 just drops smaller warheads but more of them. But i don't know exactly, how much explosives there is, in a 2000lbs bomb.
My vote for its name is the Wyvern
Great work, Tog! There are so many systems designed or being designed for having advantages for success/combat, they're needed as everything is getting more and more complex and the capability to do more than ever, just fascinating. It's always what can be conceived, then made, then counter. I bet the warfare that is going on now, like in Ukraine, though they are given old stockpiles that are being used up, while those new weapons aren't used to the point of what is being revealed, since the other side(s) want to know the capabilities and weaknesses and how to counter and defeat them. That's just my guess.
I'm not too good at naming names, the only thought of I could come up with, by the overall design and shape is Assassin, since it looks more sleek and deadly.
Assassin could work, others have suggested Raven, Wyvern, Ghost, and Phantom II to name a few. Thanks for commenting, for being a member, and now you know!
@@PilotPhotog The F4 series Already claimed Phantom II and its' name predecessor the FH-1 claimed Phantom.
EF-111A were known as Ravens.
Now a Ghost with a flock of Ghost Bats.......Hmmmm
Sticking with Falcon bird theme; Peregrine?
@@paulzaborny6741 good points - Peregrine would be interesting.
Maybe Atheris would work.@@PilotPhotog
Specter. Also I don't see something with "Arid Dominance" in its acronym giving up maneuverability/range/payload... think this platform is going to be a lot bigger than that and my reason is the Pacific Ocean's size. As far as weapons go if they go with something like Peregrine you get a full AMRAAM in have a half size package. I see that being more useful than a jet that can go really far and only carry 4-6 AA Missiles. Just my 2 cents.
I can't help but think that keeping the plane stable at low speeds (i.e. landing) is going to be tricky. Not much margin for error with in-line control surfaces, so unless AI does some kind of magic, this thing may be coming in fast and require some seriously long runways.
Maybe they could design a system that allows for vertical stabs to pop up and drop. Its never been done before but it would allow for both maneuverability with stabs up and stealth and distance with stabs . I mean they have fold in wings… why not try fold in vert stabs? The f35 did all kinds of crazy things… there needs to be something crazier a new game changer.
Speaking of likewise, the new Boeing airliner design with the ridiculous long and thin wing for high speed cruise (where do you put the flaps?), but plus truss-bracing with albeit some lift (not new, back to Bellanca in the 1930s). Can't wait until on approach at slow speed and icing occurs and the plane drops out of the sky cause they didn't learn lessons on the ATR-42/72 icing incidents/accidents?
@@iceebearhawaii1735 Boeing Airliner still has a rudder though. It CAN change direction when attempting a landing at slightly less than ideal crosswinds.
Some other great names for the fighter would be Torrent, Banshee, Vampire, Warlock, Condor, Baron, Zombie, Wolf, Coyote, Rattler, Python, Adder, Maelstrom, Executioner, Sheriff, Constable, Sky Demon, Warden, Cyclone, Spirit, Ghost, Avenger, Scout
A great name for the fighter would be "Another LM taxpayer Ripoff".
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp Beaufort T. Justice it should be called. While Lockheed is "the Bandit".
Thanks for the vid, nicely put together. Though I think it's going to have two engines and be significantly larger than you show here. For the future (Pacific theater) it needs to be able to carry larger longer range missiles and have significantly longer range. It will need more size for that. IMO.
Excellent points on the range/size requirements - I will start working on an update video!
Nice 3-d model.
thanks!
I always wanted there to be a real Air wolf 😂 but since it was a helicopter i would call it the Wraith
Ive been waiting patiently for a Mustang ll.
You want a suggestion for a name for the Air Force NGAD. I suggest, "Goodnight, Moon". Yes, it's 2 words and three syllables, but the concept is so apt.
I'd name it The Hydra, with the possibility of up to 5 drones per NGAD plane you will have a plane with many heads.
Hades (Greek) / Pluto (Roman) and Perseus had the capacity to be invisible and extremely destructive. Any of those monikers could work.
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Nah, it must be something American with similar destructive Powers. Something like "Burgers" or "Stock Market".
Another great post Juan, I suspect the NGAD's significant departure from current operational "stealthy fighter" designs, means NGAD is more aerodynamically unstable than its predecessors. If so, logically that leads to need for a flight management system of superior capabilities. Thus looking forward, the man in the loop becomes NGAD's weakest link. A romantic notion...if the flight management system were to monitor pilot physiology. It could limit the aircraft to fly only to the pilot's limits despite being capable of harder maneuvers. Couple enhanced manned aircraft performance with unmanned wingman performance...potentially potent. Especially with SEAD and other interdiction missions.
Thank you Scott, I think the NGAD and Raider will be the first of "optionally manned" combat aircraft. Perhaps use it in a crewed mode for super sensitive missions, and have it fly unmanned for routine reconnaissance or high risk missions such as SEAD.
@@PilotPhotog HA! Right... so many possibilities. The extension of man/machine interface conjurs imaginations. 🤔
@@PilotPhotog You are starting to ask a lot of this one airframe. Now imagine if you could afford as many as you want. What happens to the rest of the Army?
cool video - thanks for making me aware of this super amazing project. As for a name, my suggestion is "Wraith" - mostly because it sounds cool and kinda goes with it's intended use (IMO)
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The Penetrator would be a good Name for this magnificent aircraft.
I believe The NGAD might have a 20mm Vulcan cannon just like every other fighter after the Vietnam war. However If the plane is that size then the gun might only carry about 400-450 rounds of ammunition.
To be fair, I've seen some concept renderings showing a larger, two-seater version. I will have to update my model for my next NGAD video. Thanks for commenting!
It looks like the "high-speed mode" from Flight Of The Navigator!
“It changed its shape!” Totally agree.
CGI mate, almost same level.
Shadow or Hand would be good names for the string pulling NGAD.
unveiling is something else than what this is about.
A great name for the NGAD fighter would be Archangel
Call it the Recluse.
I'd go with the F33 Predator. Invisibility and advanced weaponry, just like in the movie. Hell yeah.
You never know Lockheed may not even be the winner of the contract!!!
Love your music.
Just don't make the mistake the pentagon did in V iet Nam with the F-4. F-4 was 2 Huge Engines w/Wings, optimized for Missiles AND NO GUN. The Lil very maneuverable MIG's could kick their azz in a Dog Fight. SOooo if Take-Em-Out-At-A-Distance is the game - better make damn sure they can.
One vote here to call the NGAD the 'Sphincter', What it will do to opposing pilots will be amazing.
What? Let them ENTER?
What is going to explode your minds, is that they are working on a cold engine design, meaning the exhaust will be cold or very close to ambient temperature, not hot.
That will change everything in air dominance, it will also have more thrust to weight ratio.
Yes, it will also stop the air from expanding and pushing the plane forward quick. Brilliant. Physics be damned.
Last comment - Why Mach 3+? 1. New stealth coatings can handle the heat. 2. The long narrow F-111 had a total after burner top speed of Mach 2.5. Remove all surfaces that do not contribute to lift, increase thrust 140%-180% (using F-22 & F-32 numbers) then increase altitude to say 70K FT - it’s not hard to see that Mach 3+ over the Pacific is not only possible, but desirable. Haha - I wonder if Lockheeds work on the X-59 is working into their NGAD submission? Remake you video with some of these ideas. I think what you have is the proof of concept design - smaller single engine one-off and not what they are actually going to submit.
I bet that thing is FAST
Beautiful presentation. Spot on!
Odin's two ravens, Hugin and Munin (Thought and Memory) come to mind. Both good names. Beautiful names for flying sculptures of death.
time to build it in Flyout cause it looks amazing
I would name it the “Dagger” seems appropriate.
The way i see it is NGAD and SR-72 darkstar are identical except the former has a tailfin while NGAD doesn't . So stablization will be different and the flight control computer will have to factor that into account. Of course both aircraft will have divergent features and forge their own development path. Like NGAD which have secretly flown, darkstar is rumored to exist despite being portrayed as a fictional aircraft only in Top Gun movie
The name should be F-42 Stormshadow, F-42 Super Stormshadow Gen ll, and the F-42A Stormshadow.
F-42A is the nuclear bomber variant with an AI pilot.
"Slick Nancy", it should be called, as Nancy Pelosi will be the only Owner of Lockheed by then. and it would compliment "Fat Amy".
Looking forward to the 6th generation of America
Such a very very very good video, narration and of course the 3d plane craft model.
Thank you! I make these animations myself, much appreciated
@@PilotPhotog wow, thinking that you make the 3d model, and the animation together with the good narration makes you a genius.
Wow. Please make some more videos. ❤️❤️
@@alexequinox8774thank you very much! I am already working on the next one, be on the lookout for the Chrome F-35!
I think a good name would be "Raven" - the smartest bird out there.
Excellent work PP.. your created visions help us to get excited..thank you
Thank you, and thanks for being a subscriber!
You need to get out more. LOL
@@Gunni1972 true.. work, sleep and repeat
Given it's slim and pointed profile the NGAD makes me think of the rapier slim but deadly sword!
The Falcon is a good name, fast sleek, and stealthy . . . other birds never see it coming...
Next video, do a SR-72 recap with a higly realistic flight model.
They could call it Rapier as the F22 was called unofficially before final production.
Incredible design, looks like a projectile shot out of a futuristic cannon.
The Arrowhead
I say we call it the Snipe… because when our enemies go Snipe hunting they’re always gonna come back empty handed and see nothing.
They should call it the Wolf because it usually comes in packs
": RADAR " is antique compared to what is available today for detection . Many countries are adopting 'light detection' modules . A permanent beam of light that when penetrated emits a warning where the penetration occurred . Inexpensive and easily maintained with a minimal force on the ground protecting and maintaining it. Need to know more ... ? ....
Shh, they intend to paint it black.
Eventually we will have no wings, just a saucer, watch this space! 20 years guys!
I like the name “rapier.” A light sword that must be used with surgical precision. I also like the names “Valkyrie” and “Siren.” Although Valkyrie was used for an aircraft already, it was used for a prototype, super sonic bomber that never saw service.
Everyone would just focus on the non-consensual sexual connotations that arise from misspelling or mispronouncing that word.
Maybe we could revive "super sabre" for this one
I like the name “Harpie” for the Harpy Eagle spelled like the mythical winged creature!
Harpy eagle is Real. Not Mythical.
They Should nickname it the Viper, idk why just sounds like a good nickname for our next air dominance fighter
This was very good content! Thank you.
Ngad fighters will be twin engine which is pretty much confirmed. And it will be a massive fighter carrying a lot of fuel and ammunition as it's designed with the pacifin in mind.
It very well could be, this is just my best guess to this point. Thanks for commenting!
Honestly the whole concept is a mistake. Hasn't Ukraine shown us that mass matters? I'd rather have 1000 f22 or something similar than 300 NGAD. They should be trying to build a mass producible fighter that costs 100 million each not 300 million each. If a war breaks out you need an aircraft that you could build 100 of in a year to replace loses. It's like we never learn.
@@amazinkay4512 US is not lacking mass by any means. However, SEAD and establishing superiority in contested airspace is impossible with just mass. ESPECIALLY if the shores of that airspace is like 1000 miles away. You absolutely NEED a fighter that is very stealthy, fast, and far-reacing for situations like this.
@@amazinkay4512No. Ukraine has taught us that mass alone is not enough. Russia has mass numbers and they still couldn't achieve superiority in the air or on the ground.
I have a hard time believing NGAD won’t be a 2-seater. Someone to handle interfacing with various unmanned assets so the pilot can focus on flying. If that’s the case, the Lockheed concept would be quite a bit larger since that cockpit would be for 2 instead of 1
Fair point and I need to updated my 3D model for the next video - thanks for commenting!
@@PilotPhotog one thing I’ve wondered about is, with the stated goal of much increased range necessitating increased fuel capacity, would a larger airframe be used solely to carry more gas or would they sacrifice a bit of the gas tank to increase internal weapons capacity?
Would the Air Force be fine with 4x AIM-260 like in your model if the platform had 2.5x the combat radius of the F-22, or would 6 or even 8 (I’m aware 8 is pushing it, but this could potentially be quite a large aircraft) AIM-260 be worth only 2x or 1.8x the range? That would enable only a couple of airframes to do a lot.
And also, would the NGAD even need to have huge internal weapons storage? Would it only need enough space for 2x hypersonic AWACS killer (or satellite killer) missiles, which is probably enough space for ~4 regular missiles, and offload more carrying capacity onto CCA drones that could fly 25+ miles ahead of the NGAD and carry 1-2x AIM-260 each? And how do directed energy weapons and the associated infrastructure factor in?
I think the best and most likely approach is to mix increased fuel and increased weapons capacity, so that the NGAD will be augmented by the networked ecosystem it’s embedded in rather than being reliant on it.
@@benbowlandthanks for commenting, my thoughts: I believe more range would be a priority, having a fighter that can fly farther without refueling and relying on tankers is essential in a near peer environment. The reduced weapons load could be compensated by teamed drones that can be launched from smaller bases or even ships along the fighters route.
@@PilotPhotog I think it all depends on the level of confidence in this new unmanned kill web's resistance to degradation from adversary UCAVs and EW assets. I'd think there would probably still be people high-up in the air force pushing for NGAD (or I guess technically PCA) to be able to execute high priority missions on it's own, but maybe they are so confident in this whole ecosystem that it isn't necessary.
Will be totally beyond anything we can even begin to fathom, the USAF new ngad fxx and the USN f/a-xx
Names - here are three in my order of preference: 1. Vortex 2. Helix, or 3. Scythe. These are names that are not warmed-over names from WWII. The first name implies the NGAD is the center of the Vortex - the center of the storm - an apt metaphor.
Nexus
NGAD is Concept only but for what we know they are over 50 years ahead of this!
Name suggestion: Adder
Here is my suggestion. The owl. They make no sound in flight and kill other birds and mammals. Hawk and Mustang II would work as well.
Robots , Drones and Missiles are the future ...😊
I like the name the Dart like the F106 Delta Dart. It looks like a dart
Well, I’m not one for acronyms but I’d call it, The Owl. Sounds silly until it’s behind you 😂
It is going to be a lot bigger than that simulation model as well