Bruh, I don’t even understand Queenzflip logic here. How does he think he’s not supposed to pay his camera man at all, but think that the camera man is supposed to stay loyal to him. Am I missing something here? Cause that’s crazy!
It’s amazing how maff and flip can speak on how he was around there kids and it hurt that he left the way he left but how much do they think it hurt him to know they didn’t feel he deserved to get paid and feed his kids and family y’all put him around your kids but don’t respect him enough to pay him for his work ? Wow
@@MaadAzzGang.... Based off of everything @Rocky said. He's not from NYC and don't know about nothing he's talking about. He's just a Joe Budden stan. Smh!
@@MaadAzzGang Depends. BK and Southside Queens niggas roll together most of the time. Brooklyn, Southside and Far Rock niggas not afraid to get they hands dirty. On some street shit tho, Queens niggas is different because they got money and connections. They'll fuck around and hire out of town shooters to knock you off before you even know it's beef. Fuck around and pay a nigga from Boston (Roxbury, Mass), New Haven (CT), or Newark (NJ) to knock you off while they chilling on a beach somewhere.
I hope the best for your show and theirs and your guests. You created a great show shared with your viewers and I hope it grows positive for everybody from this point on
Space wants 100k because with the "equipment" theres footage that Math wants to upload so he can make a profit and he can't upload it w/o Sp8ce to license it. Sp8ce doesn't care about the equipment. He wants compensation.
I wouldn't have agreed to a non-compete clause because I'll always be under the 'Math Hoffa' umbrella and unable to spread my wings fully. With that being said, if this is what you signed up to, contractually there is no way to get around that. Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
Aye Math, I know exactly how you feel. Betrayal don’t sit right with the morally sound… ever! But you gotta let it go. It’s easier said than done, but the wins should be your revenge. It’s the ONLY thing they’ll hear loud and clear. Let the work speak for you. 🤝🏾
@@nogrecords They've followed the same schedule since the beginning. Has nothing to do with needing the bread "now more than ever." Shit is business as usual but people nosey so they can't wait lol.
Math like "I brought you in and put the lights on you." But the snakes came in and took the lights. lol It's dark AF in the barbershop now. I salute you Math during this difficult time. Keep it going bro. ✊🏽💯🇱🇾
@Far7rom But Math was paying SG from the beginning, and if for some reason Space felt he was owed something, he could've just had a conversation with Math and worked it out. Don't just say, "Naw, he should know what he owes me" and not say nothing about it. Then try to extort the man. That's not how you should do business. Math is at fault for some things too, but SG should've communicated. This is what happens when people don't take the time to talk and listen to each other. And when people be pocket watching.
@Far7rom again, I said Math is not blameless, but extortion is not how you do business. And if he's owed 6k why ask for 100k? I'm the 6k could've been resolved easily. Stop treating business like it's the streets or you'll never make it in business.
Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
I could be wrong but this looks to me like Math wasn't paying people on time, as soon as a potential big contract came into play, he's now trying to X out dudes by clearing debts so all the content is solely his, and dudes are not going for it because that $6000 they're 'owed' is potentially $60,000 or more now.
@@blackjesus4525 I wouldn't have agreed to a non-compete clause because I'll always be under the 'Math Hoffa' umbrella and unable to spread my wings fully. With that being said, if this is what you signed up to, contractually there is no way to get around that. Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
It's hilarious to see Joe act calm when he has handled everything in his career emotionally and in front of a camera (Wu beef, ransom, Eminem, drake, Rory mal break up.
I dt think im gonna continue watching, the chemistry will never be the same. Exactly with the Joe Budden Podcast, i ain’t even watching like i used to anymore…
@@theprotagonist2025 "you don't understand!" -Bernie Mac Itz worst than you kno❗😂 My kryptonite tho iz my reticular activatin system❗😂 Dependin on how shokin it is, I kan be starin whatever head-on, & it may take an entire room for me to get it #pardonme😂 Like somethin real-simple that ANYONE in the world would get, dependin on what it is may take me a min, but let a certain frequency of sound(z) be outta-place, Ill kno IMMEDIATELY❗ - eq - television - muzak - a room - outside - pod - anywhere therez sound😂 Itz like that with visualz too❗😂
Joe showing his incredible growth in this episode. The lesson in business is to remove your emotions from your decision making. One of the best lessons my pops always taught me was that in business there are no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interest.
You're another victim in Joe's ability to paint a good picture. Matter of fact, he is a smart business man when it comes to his business but a terrible one at treating people who work for him.
Dudes be complaining about the sucker deals the industry gives them. Then when they get in position they basically pull the same thing on their people. It's a nasty greedy business but just own it, instead of acting like they're horrible people and you're just this great guy. I've watched the show with only Hoffa a couple of times and it wasn't great. The dynamic with the other dudes made it way better. Hoffa is not a likeable person. I'm sure he can find some other guys to help balance him a little and get a good dynamic again though.
@MatthHoffa it is not necessary to air out all of the dirty laundry. Simply move forward and get out of your feelings. Sometimes business goes sideways. The objective should always be to examine the mistakes, make adjustments and keep it moving!
@@nycqn I'm aware of why he is responding. I'm simply saying that it's not necessary. He is giving energy to a negative situation that doesn't benefit him.
@@s_vincent6942 He is new to this and being accused of things that could ruin his business. I get where you are coming from but I am sure he feels as if he is fighting for his reputation and business.
All this podcast beef aside can we get the lights back in the shop? SpaceGhost extorting but amazon prime ain't! With all the lineup changes that have taken place over the years this is the only time I seen the show actually look different. Math always brought that 🔥🔥🔥 so I'm sure things will get back to normal soon.
Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of from your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
I’m with Math!!! To evolve to greater levels everyone cant go! Your inability to let go is because of the expectation you had from the men. Often times expectations that we set upon others equals disappointment when things don’t manifest. You have to let that Go for your continued growth ! In my life all of my disappointments have been my biggest blessings and lesson. Peace
Right. It's weird with all these new "fans" that don't know Math's back story. A leopard doesn't change its spots even though a lot of us were hoping otherwise in Math's case.
@jay b I'm not sure if he fuxked you and left you, but I notice his growth. Sorry you're angry. Sounds like you need to grow as well. Therapy helps. If you don't know him personally, you definitely need help. ✊🏿🖤✌🏾
I feel like I’m Joe in this situation. Business is business, the way you feel is understandable but the way it looks is different. When things don’t go your way that’s life and that’s business. Keep it moving, don’t talk about the wrong doings you’ll have plenty more of those to come.
This the point podcasts start to fall off. Unfortunately y'all was a great team. I thought Esso and hynaken was the perfect co hosts and the visuals was always on point. This might be hard to recover from.
Someone tell Queenzflip the fallout with him and Space Ghost 👻 was HIS Fault. He shouldn't even have a seat at the table for this one. I don't care if they said they didn't want to get paid you show your gratitude because that's your people you know that people need money in these streets pay what you owe. Dude selfish.
Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
if you are willing to pay him, just zelle it to him. stop expecting to force convo with him. he doesnt owe you that. maybe he is tired. does he have to physical come meet you to get his money back? lol
Esso not a bad dude, Math not a bad dude, these are just two different people with two different mindsets, everybody ain’t meant to get along. You could see the disconnect in several episodes, they were never really on the same page. Math definitely wanted to snap on him when they were paying tribute to Kay Slay.
I wouldn't have agreed to a non-compete clause because I'll always be under the 'Math Hoffa' umbrella and unable to spread my wings fully. With that being said, if this is what you signed up to, contractually there is no way to get around that.
I see where Math coming from and based on what he saying, they did him dirty but Flip is bugging and Flip was in the wrong IMO and he keeps trying to justify his actions like he's the victimm..
The sad part is maff did a snake move only to end up not paying him also like let’s not ignore these grown men made a choice to not pay him so how u made about the way he left u don’t got no right to be mad u had me working for free you was not taking me serious until I left now they both emotional smh
I wouldn't have agreed to a non-compete clause because I'll always be under the 'Math Hoffa' umbrella and unable to spread my wings fully. With that being said, if this is what you signed up to, contractually there is no way to get around that. Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
This is why I like this podcast the space for black men to have honest conversations show emotion and hold each accountable. I think Esso and Hynekyn are going to look at this feel a gut puch seeing the level of hurt and the space they left behind
Nah, because Esso's going to come w/ the paperwork that his people were from Revolt. There's a lot of accusations thrown around with no basis. Comparing Esso's people to undercover.
B4 I started my business I worked in a pharmacy I was outside with The pharmacist and he said, if I leave the man that owns this business would not know how to run it He doesn't even know how to work the machines, that always stayed on my mind...
Our community is NOT ACCUSTOMED to deal with money that the minute one of us has some the bs begins...that's why I keep my circle small.. and even than I'm on my toes because your best friend today can become your worst enemy tomorrow
Let some one not paid your invoice in full and tried to contact you without paying first, and than speak on how he lost 6k walking around. You gonna keep showing up to work why ?
@@MR.WRECKLESSGAINZ There are numerous ways to go about things like that. 1. Talk like men 2. Take them to court 3. Conduct your business better 4. Create your own thing FROM THE START...I mean if you still get into Contractual disputes and 10000000 people before you went through the same thing.. I mean how many examples do you need? People been jerking rappers since the 80's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so if you're a new age rapper and you get jerked.. you deserve it.
Math bro we was here for you lol. This is beyond me. Math you made the show. I used to fast forward with those guys man. Math stay true and we here with you ahch. Shalom
I've watched the show with only Hoffa a couple of times and it wasn't great. The dynamic with the other dudes made it way better. Hoffa is not a likeable person. I'm sure he can find some other guys to help balance him a little and get a good dynamic again though.
@@daporkoil1 respect. I agree people should be on the panel but the guys are interchangeable. They weren’t Joe Rohan. I didn’t know who the hell they were nor did I care. That’s what I’m getting at. Wasn’t like they brought insightful perspectives or anything. Just average guys with average insight.
I wouldn't have agreed to a non-compete clause because I'll always be under the 'Math Hoffa' umbrella and unable to spread my wings fully. With that being said, if this is what you signed up to, contractually there is no way to get around that. Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
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Joe sitting back with invisible popcorn watching dudes air out “feelings” is great 😂
Word 😂😂😂
He shouldn’t of went there makes him look dumb
He's the biggest hypocrite of them all.
@@RoSha7775 word 😂😂💯
I like your phrase, "invisible popcorn."
Joe: “There’s no time for hurt.”
Joe: “I’m not showing accounting because I’m hurt.”
Underrated comment
YO FOR REAL THOUGH 😂😂😂😂
Joe the most hurt nigga in the room lol
He did show accounting. Rory and Mal aint believe it, so they wanted an audit. He said no to the the audit.
Right Joe a straight Snake 🐍
Sp8 took the the good lights with him also..damn thats messed up
😂he stole the lights ?
Yea that shit is funny. Heard they also left with the toilet seat. Smh
seems like all the good audio equipment too.. I NEVER heard Math's chair squeak in the SP8Ghost-produced videos.. Now i can't UNHEAR it 😩 lol
Mans left the barbershop dim asf 😭😭😭😭
Bruh, I don’t even understand Queenzflip logic here. How does he think he’s not supposed to pay his camera man at all, but think that the camera man is supposed to stay loyal to him. Am I missing something here? Cause that’s crazy!
In another clip, Flip explains why he wasn't paying him.
Love how Joe is like the designated mediator in this conversation ✊🏾
He’s fucked up the most. [>
Crazy how people get messy when money get in the picture.
“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”-Maya Angelou
That’s one of the hardest lessons in life to learn.
Yet people keep believing Joe changed
All Math is doing right now is DAMAGE CONTROL to protect his already SHAKY reputation
It’s amazing how maff and flip can speak on how he was around there kids and it hurt that he left the way he left but how much do they think it hurt him to know they didn’t feel he deserved to get paid and feed his kids and family y’all put him around your kids but don’t respect him enough to pay him for his work ? Wow
they full of shit
Exactly! What’s funny to me is that THEY STILL don’t get it. They still don’t understand. [>
Math literally was trying to pay him tho?
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🤣🤣🤣this is weird man ,why let it get to the point of no return and only then ask "how much do I owe you ?I can pay you "
promise you we ain’t getting this full vid for another 3 weeks 😭
Take it back jagged edge lookin mf
Facts
3 weeks is generous lol
Right annoying
Does a bear shii in the woods
SMOKE DZA out here looking like WTF did I step into? A podcast therapy session? 😂😂
This really hitting home for me right now. Betrayal come in many forms.
No funny it’s something about betrayal,people & this year 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏾♂️
Flip and Math coming together to form the avengers for Ghost😂😂
Idk why Flip was dead wrong.
@@RoSha7775 flip is just as bad if not worse. FLIP WAS NOT PAYING
@@RoSha7775 it honestly shouldn’t even been a second thought. He’s still going On as if he has a reason to be upset at him when he wasn’t paying him
@@RoSha7775 wtf type of property you gonna put a down payment on with 1k bro ?
Joe comes in and immediately puts shit in perspective. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gotta love this guy.
@@RoSha7775 Can Queens really hang with BK on the streets? BK is wild.
@@MaadAzzGang.... Based off of everything @Rocky said. He's not from NYC and don't know about nothing he's talking about. He's just a Joe Budden stan. Smh!
@@MaadAzzGang Depends. BK and Southside Queens niggas roll together most of the time. Brooklyn, Southside and Far Rock niggas not afraid to get they hands dirty. On some street shit tho, Queens niggas is different because they got money and connections. They'll fuck around and hire out of town shooters to knock you off before you even know it's beef. Fuck around and pay a nigga from Boston (Roxbury, Mass), New Haven (CT), or Newark (NJ) to knock you off while they chilling on a beach somewhere.
@@RoSha7775 Huh? I never dissed you i think you quoted the wrong guy.
I hope the best for your show and theirs and your guests. You created a great show shared with your viewers and I hope it grows positive for everybody from this point on
How is it pocket watching if somebody owes you money and he showing up with all types of new stuff - I'm losing all respect for these guys
These are real business conversations that we’re getting an in depth view of… this is priceless depending on the lense that you’re viewing it through
Space wants 100k because with the "equipment" theres footage that Math wants to upload so he can make a profit and he can't upload it w/o Sp8ce to license it. Sp8ce doesn't care about the equipment. He wants compensation.
exactly
Math knows that, I feel like he’s playing crazy.
Didn’t mention that one time and he is well aware of it
I wouldn't have agreed to a non-compete clause because I'll always be under the 'Math Hoffa' umbrella and unable to spread my wings fully. With that being said, if this is what you signed up to, contractually there is no way to get around that.
Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
Everybody snaking everybody on the low..lool this is pure gold..popcorn level entertainment ...best game of poker i seen..
Aye Math, I know exactly how you feel. Betrayal don’t sit right with the morally sound… ever! But you gotta let it go. It’s easier said than done, but the wins should be your revenge. It’s the ONLY thing they’ll hear loud and clear. Let the work speak for you. 🤝🏾
This deserves the whole episode @math Hoffa don’t part us to death like GLADTV the internet skreets are hungry for content 💪🏾
RIGHT!!!
Unless I'm reading the situation incorrectly, it sounds like they need the bread, from parting it this way, now more than ever
@@nogrecords They've followed the same schedule since the beginning. Has nothing to do with needing the bread "now more than ever." Shit is business as usual but people nosey so they can't wait lol.
Yeah for real, it will actually get more views if he drops the whole thing now, otherwise it will all be old news by the time the full one drops
This is what every podcast does nothing new for math either
Now I see why joe is where he’s at in life very smart & intelligent
Joe the most bothered unbothered dude that I’ve ever seen 💀
“I’m willing to pay him.”
Pay them.[>
And this is how black balling works ladies and gentlemen “ How you gonna let him work here knowing what he did to me? I thought you were my mans?” 😏
Math like "I brought you in and put the lights on you." But the snakes came in and took the lights. lol It's dark AF in the barbershop now. I salute you Math during this difficult time. Keep it going bro. ✊🏽💯🇱🇾
ESSO was bringing the guest ESSO is the jayz of rap management
It's sad that this happened, especially since Math Hoffa's Podcast was on a rocketship to 1 million subscribers :D
@Far7rom true but it's not like Space Ghost forced Hynaken & Esso to leave and start a podcast together just saying.
@Far7rom who is that?
@Far7rom thanks for putting it plainly.. I’m new to all of this and couldn’t figure out wtf happened.. your comment just made things clear
@Far7rom But Math was paying SG from the beginning, and if for some reason Space felt he was owed something, he could've just had a conversation with Math and worked it out. Don't just say, "Naw, he should know what he owes me" and not say nothing about it. Then try to extort the man. That's not how you should do business. Math is at fault for some things too, but SG should've communicated. This is what happens when people don't take the time to talk and listen to each other. And when people be pocket watching.
@Far7rom again, I said Math is not blameless, but extortion is not how you do business. And if he's owed 6k why ask for 100k? I'm the 6k could've been resolved easily. Stop treating business like it's the streets or you'll never make it in business.
I had hope that my people would work together & not stab each other. Salute Math
Flip wildn. How you refuse to pay the man then be mad when he leaves
Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
@@user-mv7kh5sv9z yea that part had me lookin real sideways. Imagine being space ghost and that’s the excuse you hear. Crazy
I could be wrong but this looks to me like Math wasn't paying people on time, as soon as a potential big contract came into play, he's now trying to X out dudes by clearing debts so all the content is solely his, and dudes are not going for it because that $6000 they're 'owed' is potentially $60,000 or more now.
Exactly! His story switches to much.
@@blackjesus4525 I wouldn't have agreed to a non-compete clause because I'll always be under the 'Math Hoffa' umbrella and unable to spread my wings fully. With that being said, if this is what you signed up to, contractually there is no way to get around that.
Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
These talking bout not paying dudes like that's cool. Then say they snaking me
Math gotta get that chain cut down to neck length 😂😂😂
Math probably won't be wearing a damn choker chain. He wasn't born in the 00s
When you reach a certain age, you just gotta take that big ass chain off. Your old ass neck won't be able to handle all that weight. 🤣
@@hovae10 you probably want to see him in some skinny jeans and hella face tats plus that choker chain huh? Foh 💀💀
OMM
Young chill😂
It's hilarious to see Joe act calm when he has handled everything in his career emotionally and in front of a camera (Wu beef, ransom, Eminem, drake, Rory mal break up.
Joe.. one of the most emotional giggas on RUclips.. talking ish
You gotta take the term "pocket watching" out of business. You're supposed to be observant.
Math & Flip: You pay a man for his work. Never feelings involved & missed steps to receive payment‼️ Pay & move on‼️
I dt think im gonna continue watching, the chemistry will never be the same.
Exactly with the Joe Budden Podcast, i ain’t even watching like i used to anymore…
Did y’all also fire the chair greasers as well😂😂 cause the chair squeaking is annoying af but I love this level of conversation Great Job Math!
My OCD bn in overdrive forever with them shitz❗😂 Between that, & that shot at the end, Math has zero of a clue how much go into pressin-play❗😂
#sidebar #twowords
#trigger #warning
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yall niggas ears sensitive as hell I ain’t even notice
@@theprotagonist2025
"you don't understand!"
-Bernie Mac
Itz worst than you kno❗😂
My kryptonite tho iz my reticular activatin system❗😂 Dependin on how shokin it is, I kan be starin whatever head-on, & it may take an entire room for me to get it #pardonme😂 Like somethin real-simple that ANYONE in the world would get, dependin on what it is may take me a min, but let a certain frequency of sound(z) be outta-place, Ill kno IMMEDIATELY❗
- eq
- television
- muzak
- a room
- outside
- pod
- anywhere therez sound😂
Itz like that with visualz too❗😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Joe showing his incredible growth in this episode. The lesson in business is to remove your emotions from your decision making. One of the best lessons my pops always taught me was that in business there are no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interest.
You're another victim in Joe's ability to paint a good picture. Matter of fact, he is a smart business man when it comes to his business but a terrible one at treating people who work for him.
Sound like a shady ass business practice to me.
Dudes be complaining about the sucker deals the industry gives them. Then when they get in position they basically pull the same thing on their people. It's a nasty greedy business but just own it, instead of acting like they're horrible people and you're just this great guy. I've watched the show with only Hoffa a couple of times and it wasn't great. The dynamic with the other dudes made it way better. Hoffa is not a likeable person. I'm sure he can find some other guys to help balance him a little and get a good dynamic again though.
@MatthHoffa it is not necessary to air out all of the dirty laundry. Simply move forward and get out of your feelings. Sometimes business goes sideways. The objective should always be to examine the mistakes, make adjustments and keep it moving!
He is responding because they did an interview on their channel.
@@nycqn I'm aware of why he is responding. I'm simply saying that it's not necessary. He is giving energy to a negative situation that doesn't benefit him.
He can't do that lol
@@s_vincent6942 He is new to this and being accused of things that could ruin his business. I get where you are coming from but I am sure he feels as if he is fighting for his reputation and business.
DJ Clue came out and said Esso always did good business with him. Who can say that about Math? Genuine question
All this podcast beef aside can we get the lights back in the shop? SpaceGhost extorting but amazon prime ain't! With all the lineup changes that have taken place over the years this is the only time I seen the show actually look different. Math always brought that 🔥🔥🔥 so I'm sure things will get back to normal soon.
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
u funny
Bro this was color correction with the editing. Give him a break tho, he might have a brand new editor.
Stop sucking math bruh. The new visuals are trash compared to before all this happened 💯
@@IndigoUchiha26 No one is disagreeing with you.. LOL you weird
Flip: "They gave it to me!"
Sp8Ghost: "How they just gonna give u something like that?!?!!?"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Around @7:40 Joe caught him lmaooo Flip said "how the Fk Space ghost left me for you" and Joe said because you didn't pay him, everybody laughed
Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of from your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
I’m with Math!!! To evolve to greater levels everyone cant go! Your inability to let go is because of the expectation you had from the men. Often times expectations that we set upon others equals disappointment when things don’t manifest. You have to let that Go for your continued growth ! In my life all of my disappointments have been my biggest blessings and lesson. Peace
A queen a never without her 👑
I miss the old camera guy
I Knew He Was Gone Cut Niggas Off Once He Got A Deal Everybody Know Math That type he Look Like It
Right. It's weird with all these new "fans" that don't know Math's back story. A leopard doesn't change its spots even though a lot of us were hoping otherwise in Math's case.
28 years later and now I understand who Mobb Deep was talking about when referring to halfway crooks
You can tell Joe has been to therapy and the level of maturation is seeping thru his pores. Proud of Joe's growth as well. 🤞🏽✊🏿💯💪🏾
Oh pls he's good at giving advice but not following his own, he still the same snake he always been.
@jay b I'm not sure if he fuxked you and left you, but I notice his growth. Sorry you're angry. Sounds like you need to grow as well. Therapy helps. If you don't know him personally, you definitely need help. ✊🏿🖤✌🏾
@@mimijay5563 nah this a whole simp account probably a fat white girl & a blk man 😂😂😂
I feel like I’m Joe in this situation. Business is business, the way you feel is understandable but the way it looks is different. When things don’t go your way that’s life and that’s business. Keep it moving, don’t talk about the wrong doings you’ll have plenty more of those to come.
Woooh that story about revolt gave me the chills imagine if math signed that paper 🐍🐍🐍
MATH WANTED THEM TO BE STUCK TO ONLY 1 SHOW IS WILD CRAZY..
As long as they get paid handsomely and have the freedom to speak when they want to on the pod dosent sound too bad to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lol Aye is the whole ep on patreon cause I can’t for another clip bruh and loving the show
Math has every right to be in his feelings because there was a lot of sneaky underhandedness going on.
We need this NOW!!!!
This the point podcasts start to fall off. Unfortunately y'all was a great team. I thought Esso and hynaken was the perfect co hosts and the visuals was always on point. This might be hard to recover from.
Someone tell Queenzflip the fallout with him and Space Ghost 👻 was HIS Fault. He shouldn't even have a seat at the table for this one.
I don't care if they said they didn't want to get paid you show your gratitude because that's your people you know that people need money in these streets pay what you owe. Dude selfish.
Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
how did flip not tell or talk about getting a whole free car? for promotion at that? doesn't sound like flip was putting him on to anything.
Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
Excellent Job MATH HOFFA. Bringing Joe & Queenzflip and explaining the story.
if you are willing to pay him, just zelle it to him. stop expecting to force convo with him. he doesnt owe you that. maybe he is tired. does he have to physical come meet you to get his money back? lol
Esso not a bad dude, Math not a bad dude, these are just two different people with two different mindsets, everybody ain’t meant to get along. You could see the disconnect in several episodes, they were never really on the same page. Math definitely wanted to snap on him when they were paying tribute to Kay Slay.
What's even crazier so many people drawing lines in the sand and picking sides.
I wouldn't have agreed to a non-compete clause because I'll always be under the 'Math Hoffa' umbrella and unable to spread my wings fully. With that being said, if this is what you signed up to, contractually there is no way to get around that.
@@user-mv7kh5sv9z court would determine if their podcast would be truly considered competition.
We need this full episode ASAP
When Joe is the one giving the rational relationship and business advice, the situation is truly dysfunctional.
Lol 😂 everybody a little shady 😂
This why you gotta watch who you let in your circle everybody is not built for your success that’s why God put names on blessings
Hoffa the videos lately making everything look hella dark
I see where Math coming from and based on what he saying, they did him dirty but Flip is bugging and Flip was in the wrong IMO and he keeps trying to justify his actions like he's the victimm..
I love hearing all sides
I’ll wait for the whole thing to drop, I’m lost on half of what their talking about
The sad part is maff did a snake move only to end up not paying him also like let’s not ignore these grown men made a choice to not pay him so how u made about the way he left u don’t got no right to be mad u had me working for free you was not taking me serious until I left now they both emotional smh
I wouldn't have agreed to a non-compete clause because I'll always be under the 'Math Hoffa' umbrella and unable to spread my wings fully. With that being said, if this is what you signed up to, contractually there is no way to get around that.
Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
This is why I like this podcast the space for black men to have honest conversations show emotion and hold each accountable. I think Esso and Hynekyn are going to look at this feel a gut puch seeing the level of hurt and the space they left behind
Nah, because Esso's going to come w/ the paperwork that his people were from Revolt. There's a lot of accusations thrown around with no basis. Comparing Esso's people to undercover.
This is what we need , real business from scratch to successful in real time, no blueprint just trial and error
It's hard to believe anything math say
Not sure how you just "lose" $6,000 unless someone stole it from you
Dude told his boys that they were irrelevant ...damn!!!
They need them cameras and that good ass editing! Math just don’t know it yet…🤣🤣🤣
A bunch of snakes in a cave, mad at the fact that the foxes out smarted them for the mice.
meh I was completely siding with math until he said he was looking for spaceghost so long with $6000 in his wallet that he lost the money. ummmm.....
Can someone please explain to what this conversation is centered around?
B4 I started my business I worked in a pharmacy I was outside with The pharmacist and he said, if I leave the man that owns this business would not know how to run it He doesn't even know how to work the machines, that always stayed on my mind...
Flip can’t say nothing because he really messed up not paying dude. Too late now
Yo flip so funny mane. Nigga said “i yelled in the car; they gave it to me” 😭😭😂😂😂
What’s good with the lights? The set look like The Young and the Restless
Our community is NOT ACCUSTOMED to deal with money that the minute one of us has some the bs begins...that's why I keep my circle small.. and even than I'm on my toes because your best friend today can become your worst enemy tomorrow
Let some one not paid your invoice in full and tried to contact you without paying first, and than speak on how he lost 6k walking around. You gonna keep showing up to work why ?
@@MR.WRECKLESSGAINZ There are numerous ways to go about things like that. 1. Talk like men 2. Take them to court 3. Conduct your business better 4. Create your own thing FROM THE START...I mean if you still get into Contractual disputes and 10000000 people before you went through the same thing.. I mean how many examples do you need? People been jerking rappers since the 80's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so if you're a new age rapper and you get jerked.. you deserve it.
@@MrMG76 he’s a camera man and video editor wtf are you taking about ?
Hey brotha, thank goodness you are smart enough to know. Love your content.
I'm bouta be dead ass honest bro...Ayo Hoffa, this is giving Wild Emotional
Bcuz he knows he wrong
"There's no time for hurt".... this is why these "friendships" were severed....
Math sayin my lawyers was ultimate flex
I aint gone lie, When Math said he was thinking about that time Esso said what he said about artist, That hit different now...Crazy
I like how they put this out in the open it was a smart move
this deep ... this bigger than Nino brown
Math bro we was here for you lol. This is beyond me. Math you made the show. I used to fast forward with those guys man. Math stay true and we here with you ahch. Shalom
I've watched the show with only Hoffa a couple of times and it wasn't great. The dynamic with the other dudes made it way better. Hoffa is not a likeable person. I'm sure he can find some other guys to help balance him a little and get a good dynamic again though.
@@daporkoil1 respect. I agree people should be on the panel but the guys are interchangeable. They weren’t Joe Rohan. I didn’t know who the hell they were nor did I care. That’s what I’m getting at. Wasn’t like they brought insightful perspectives or anything. Just average guys with average insight.
I wouldn't have agreed to a non-compete clause because I'll always be under the 'Math Hoffa' umbrella and unable to spread my wings fully. With that being said, if this is what you signed up to, contractually there is no way to get around that.
Also, Flip's explanation for not paying SpaceGhost was crazy. Flip has bands coming in from another hustle while the guy whose labor you're also making money off of in your other hustle remains unpaid. And you're justifying it by saying that the other money coming in is what you worked hard for! Even Joe couldn't co-sign that excuse.
@@user-mv7kh5sv9z any business contract has a non compete when you are dealing with sub contracting or independent contracting.
"there's no time for hurt"
Joe a corporate gangsta
That Revolt TV shit is a deal breaker tho. I can’t lie that’s crazy
What goes around comes around 🤭. Pray the situation be quelled
I love how in sitcoms all the problems come from one character not telling another what they experienced while they were apart.
The richer Joe gets ,the worst he dresses Sup with dem diabetic shoes?😂😭
When Budden is the reasonable one in the room...
Man can u drop drose full thang
Math the new vlad with the clips 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's Hoffaaaaaa