"God" or the maker of this universe is always connected to his creation in every way, and not just to those who go to church every Sunday or read the scriptures.
Ethan Hawk must be the coolest dad to have and Maya Hawk must be the coolest daughter to have. Such a deep love and mutual respect for each other as human beings and as artists. It's such a rare, beautiful thing to see. I'm so happy for them. I can only hope my daughter and I can have that type of friendship when she grows up!
Currently battling an addiction that has consumed me for the last 13 years. I pray for the strength to overcome and will continue to fight to the end. God bless you all
Every time I have thoughts I can’t control I say a Hail Mary until I feel peace. Try picking a prayer that’s meaningful to you and saying it when you’re having inclinations back towards your addiction or inclinations towards precursors to the addictive behaviors. God Bless. With God all things are possible.
Fifty years of writing comic books...now in my 70s, realizing that "gift" came from the Holy Spirit...for a reason. I'm humbled, grateful beyond understanding, and continue to write comic books...to His Glory.
Amazing conversation! I had no idea that Ethan and Maya were so into Flannery O’connor, and they had such elevated spiritual sensibilities. Bishop Barron keeps surprising me with unexpected brilliant conversations…
I love Ethan Hawks too. My first impression of him was in the movie Dead Poet’s Society. I loved the character he played. He is born to be an actor. I enjoyed this interview so very much. I loved his insights and Maya’s too. She reminds me of myself when I was young. And of course I love and appreciate Bishop Barron’s intellectual and spiritual self. 👼
@@williamoarlock8634 I'm sure your mind is so far above Lewis', Chesterton's, Ronald Knox's, Eliot's, et al, that we should be stunned to be in your cyberpresence. How lucky is that?!
The interview felt rewarding. Like I was Assigned a coach seat on the plane. Then the airline hostess says would you like to sit In First Class. Unexpected. ✌️
As an admirer of Flannery (as you might guess from my profile photo haha) I truly enjoyed this conversation. First of all, I love Ethans humility at the end to suggest that his conversation with the Bishop might impact his editing of the film! What a neat grace that is! I also enjoyed seeing how much time, energy, and knowledge (and respect) that the Hawks are putting into this project about O'Connor and I am beyond excited to see the film. I think that the Bishop did a fantastic job of Christian "active listening" to affirm truth and to sometimes be silent and show respectful listening when less-than-orthodox ideas were shared, as he always models well. I was delighted to see such insighful, respectful dialogue happening between people who might have rather different opinions on many things here in the year 2023. I felt a little protective of Flannery towards the end, however, when they suggested that her regionalism limited her in any way, or that she had somehow missed out on things, or might have been a "better person" (my words not Mayas but the sentiment seemed to be there) had she not had lupus and been able to live a more metropolitan, typical life. I was glad to hear Ethan say that it was lupus that opened the door to her genius, and I think this is the better reading. Her illness and the limitations and loneliness, not to mention the physical pain, that it brought her, were part of her vocation as a writer and she understood that well. I think, at the end, despite the hardships she wouldnt have had it any other way, as she had such a good theology of redemptive suffering. Mary Flannery O'Connor is one of the most gifted writers of the modern age, and she is a gift to the Christian who longs or creative, insightful, honest fiction that is entirely Christocentric (a rare find). Her letters are just as profound a gift to humanity as her fiction was, as uncomfortable as she might have been to know they would be so widely read, as her faith and her unique character shines through them. I have learned so much "at her feet" by reading her, and I am so grateful that the Hawkes are using some of their hollywood cache to bring light to this underrated author and artist. May the Lord use this film for His glory and the good of others. Flannery O'Connor, Ora Pro Nobis.
Your comment is as passionate and descriptive as this profound interview. Haven’t read any of FOC’s writings but this conversation and your comment have totally opened me up to wanting to dive into her writings.
Yes please do! And I always tell people if they really want to get the most out of her fiction, read her collection of letters aswell. Understandin her mind and her theology makes them come to life so much more. God bless.@@guest4888
I also had a moment of "now, hold on a minute" around 01:01:30 when Maya Hawke suggested that Flannery OConnor's views would have changed if she hadn't been "so caged" in "such a small world" (her words). That combined with her body language any time faith and spirituality came to the forefront of the conversation told me that she only admires Flannery's wordsmithing and didn't fully grasp Flannery's ultimate motivation in her writing. Was she writing for her own glory? Or for God's? And what's their goal in making this movie? Is this movie going to glorify the Hawkes? Or Flannery OConnor?
I appreciated this interview! I've written about Flannery O'Connor for years, and have written a bit in anticipation of this film. I understand that the Hawkes worked to respect O'Connor's faith, and in filming in Kentucky, consulted with the pastor of the parish which they used to stand in for Sacred Heart in Milledgeville. I was struck, though, by their very generalized understanding of Flannery's faith, most clearly expressed in the discussion of "Parker's Back" - no disrespect to what they saw in the story, but it's so obviously a story *about* the power and scandal of the incarnational faith that Catholic sacramental theology embodies - it's hard for me to see how they could *not* see it! One more point: the grace moments that are at the center of O'Connor's work aren't just about seeing the world as it is - it's about seeing yourself as you are. As you really are, no matter what your pride tries to hide from you. The point in "Revelation" - a story mentioned in the interview - when Ruby rages at the memory of being called a "wart hog from hell" - she yells - "Who do you think you are?" ...and her words come back in an echo....
"about the power and scandal of the incarnational faith that Catholic sacramental theology embodies" I swear half the time I want to read commentaries because I find myself confused when reading most books.
I had the same thought about Parkers Back. There is definitely a commentary in that story on the fundementalist protestant embrace of the heresy of iconoclasm, and Ruby's rejection of a beautiful depiction of Christ due to her wrong theology, as well as the radical incarnational nature of the sacramental economy. But in their defense, some of that might sound like nonsense to them if they aren't at all steeped in Christian theology and thought (though it seems from Ethans past, at least, that he has some grasp on these concepts). Im still very much looking forward to the film, though, as they seem to be trying to be respectful even if they wont get it all right.
@lisaohare3328 Purely for hearing her voice and her oration, I would recommend A Good Man is Hard to Find (1952). It is on RUclips. Her twang is amazing.
@@lisaohare3328 It sort of depends. If you are only interested in her fiction, I would say start with her collected short stories, then move onto her novels. If you want a more thorough understanding of her from a theological perspective, however, I would actually suggest that you read her collected letters first, and then read her stories. Or, read them at the same time.
Oh, this is wonderful. I love that Ethan Hawke says he had read Flannery O'Connor, Walker Percy, and Thomas Merton. When I converted to Catholicism decades ago, I considered the three of them to be critical to my understanding of faith.. Terrific interview!
Bishop Robert Barron really brought me back to faith. All of these deep deep topics and issues I’ve struggled with in my life, he dissects and breaks them down in ways I can get on with. Father Mike Schmitz helped as well. I’ve posted on so many videos because from a struggling drug addict to what I am now, is nothing but a loving gift from God
Bishop Baron is a courageous man. I'm sure on a personal level he's very different than these two people, but I trust him to dialogue with others in this way.
Bishop Barron engages with people and tries to find a commonality with them. Their perspective might be different but Bishop Barron respects that and meets people where they are at the moment. Always a good move. By the way, I have always respected Ethan as an actor.
Thank you so much Bishop Barron and Ethan and Maya Hawke for such a wonderful and heart and soul felt discussion of Flannery and her peacockish ways. Blood runs true.
I want to see her audition monologue! Thank you Ethan & Maya for introducing me to Flannery through Wildcat! Her story really speaks to me! I’m new to Catholicism and to read her Prayer Journal made me realize my prayers sound just like hers… especially not feeling worthy. Thank you again 💜✝️🙏🏻🕊️
Very enjoyable interview; very revealing--about Flannery O'Connor and also about Ethan & Maya Hawke were so Catholic, so thoughtful, so well-read, so bright! This is what I needed to move me to read my first Flannery O'Connor book.
Really profound insight by Ethan that you discover who you are by what you love. "Holiness is the fruit of good desire." I learn who I am by my identity in Jesus Christ. Happy Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary!
THIS IS WONDERFUL. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WILDCAT, BUT HEARING ETHAN AND MAYAS TALK OF THIER LIFE IN THE ARTS AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO GOD AND SOCIETY IN JUST GREAT.
The movie is really interesting and a thoughtful approach blending O' Connor's autobiography with her written stories. I think this movie will get multiple viewings at my house. I really enjoyed this conversation. Not your usual movie promotion!
For me now, at this time in my life, the greatest interview I’ve heard (and I have listened to many).. So rich in understanding Flannery, in reminding us of her spiritual and artistic vision. The Hawkes (father/daughter) are beautiful in their relationship and commitment to bringing authentic Flannery and her prophetic role. The interview was so natural, genuine, and “graceful.” Thanks to the loving relationship of Ethan(?) and Maya, their love of Flannery, their own spiritual mission, and to you Bishop Barron for creating a milieu for epiphanies to happen.
Great timing: I'm in the middle of her collected stories and collected letters. It's great to read whatever she writes aloud - it's enjoyable just to say the words as you imagine she would say them. The diction is half the joy of reading her works.
As a writer who also incorporates elements of the Catholic faith into my books, I deeply felt the part where they mentioned how Flannery submitted one of her books to a publisher who came back and said "it's great, but take these parts out". I felt that *so* keenly, and that's precisely why I elected to self-publish my stuff. Because secular agents and publishers don't "get it" when you include faith in a story that's not Christian fiction. Futher, I have often said that I would never allow my books to be made into movies. Watching this interview cemented that resolve. If someone sees my books simply as "art" and fails to pick up on the deeper message, I wouldn't trust them to tell that story... This felt very much like when you're praying in a beautiful cathedral, and tourists are wandering around with selfie sticks, taking pictures with the "beautiful art" rather than meditating on it and allowing it to transform them.
Absolutely delightful; Flannery would have loved this, too, I believe. Beautiful how the conversation flowed and Bishop being so gracious. I pray for them to come to the fullness, can sense that in Maya's partial taking herself out of the conversation at points and entering in her fluttery lingo which is yet still ever so thoughtful and insightful. What a great discussion on life and grace! Thank you, Bishop. I missed Ethan when he was in Fort Worth at a showing - sold out fast. Somehow I think I received an even better seat at this event you arranged! and isn't that The Way! Peace.
The father directed the daughter's sex scenes in this film and he said he couldn't care less. Look it up. I'm not having a go at you. I just think you deserve the truth.
Thank you. That was a lovely interview & it really lifted my spirits. I just ordered a print copy of her short stories & I am so excited to see the film. All the best, Jimmy James
Great interview and unscripted, authentic discussion! As a Catholic and a filmmaker, this hit quite a few topics of interest related to creativity and spirituality.
once again i come to his channel curious of what he might had been up to and i find unexpected guests. Bishop Barron thank you and to Ethan and Maya im without words just incredible.
A great conversation with great insight into Flannery's work. I only missed more interventions from bishop Barron. I would like to hear more of his particular perspective of each story.
One of the best books i've read in recent years was Rules for a Knight, by Ethan Hawke. The Christian influence on the book is undeniable. So it's no surprise to see Ethan Hawke talking to Bishop Baron about making a film about a Catholic writer.
This was a great meditation that I need so badly and am encouraged that soon, I might sort out my confusion, as you provide a glimmer of hope. Thank you, one of the best ever.
I'm a true cinephile. From being bedridden for the first 6 years of my life watching films 24/7, and for the next 12 years a continued obsession with movie theaters all around Manhattan, always looking forward to doing movie marathons on 42nd Street. I never read a book those first 20 years. My brain since birth adapted to processing information through cinema logic, Proust merrily haunting every reel in defiance of Time and Space that comes easy to film art, which, I now realize at age 76, made me an outsider my entire life, making it impossible for me to socialize, for no one I knew knew film language and logic, how I communicated. An excellent example of how film can dive into the depths of a subject that linguistic logic hasn’t even attempted yet is in the exploration of solipsism during this Age of Solipsism, having long ago transitioned from the Age of Narcissism. None of this to be found in books, but was explored to perfection in a Spierig brothers’ film, Predestination, where Ethan Hawke gets to display his radically unique and always entertaining approach to acting that has made him one of my favorite actors of all time (to begin an adventure into his acting, it can’t hurt to start with The Northman, Daybreakers and Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead; and if really bold, try his Hamlet). Although I would eventually read all of what Flannery wrote, John Huston’s cinema adaptation of Wise Blood is my favorite dive into the imagination of Flannery and what she was up to, having watched it at least 40 times. And the making of that film contains my favorite story related to Flannery’s art: Brad Dourif, playing the protagonist, Hazel Motes (an actor in that rare category of being radically unique and deep as an actor, like Hawke), along with Benedict and Michael Fitzgerald, screenwriters and advisors on set who had been lovingly close to Flannery since childhood, and other members on the set, including John Huston, all arguing about the religious framework of the film, Huston insisting on a strictly psychological interpretation, and the Fitzgeralds insisting God must remain in how the story is told, with Brad Dourif bravely and adamantly taking sides with the Fitzgeralds. At a certain point, Huston, an avowed atheist, had enough and stormed out. The next morning all were at table for breakfast, except Huston. Halfway into breakfast, Huston arrives with his gargantuan ego hovering over them, and then saying with the authority of Samuel, “Ok-you can have your Jesus!” And as far as grace, it is what’s always present sustaining and helping us to advance down many avenues of expression with degrees of intensity (“It’s not a matter of dialectics, but a matter of degrees.” - Nietzsche). The problem is we fight against grace because it always conforms to the incomprehensible logic and motion of God’s Providence that is always moving inside the will of the Father in his incomprehensible ways, what we most often reject in our willfulness, and thereby reject the graces present to and for us, an understanding of which is in my experience more easily accessed through film art, as in Tarkovsky’s The Sacrifice. And what art form travels deeper into the mystery of Man and Woman pulled irrevocably in the direction of one another while simultaneously trying to get away from each other, even unto death, than in Tarkovsky’s Solaris? Or persona at war with person in Ingmar Bergman’s Persona?
I’m beyond excited to see this film. I have for quite a while now wondered how to write a biopic about Flannery. How difficult a project! I had envisioned Emma Stone as Flannery living with her mother, played by Allison Janney. Then I saw The Help and I became obsessed with the idea for a screenplay, but could not imagine how to actually pen such a problematic story. These two did it! It so happens that I’m presently writing a story specifically revolving around the wiley nature of grace that had and is working its magic on myself by dint of a year long relationship with a particular person that has come and gone. Flannery is quoted often in it. The thing is a blend of Bukowski and O’Connor, if one could I imagine such a thing. Thanks be to God for these two and the good Bishop to have them on. I’ve read everything I could get my hands regarding Flannery. Admirers should get familiar with Jessica Hooten Wilson. Look her up and you will be blessed. I’ll just leave it there.
I personally like when an interviewer allows the people he is interviewing to talk so many times the interviewer takes over and it becomes about interviewers ideas rather then who interviewee
Such a wonderfully enriching conversation. Really impressed with Ethan and Maya's ability to articulate spiritual threads. Bishop Barron amazing as always. Feeling very uplifted by this. Plus inspired to go read some Flannery O Connor books for the first time.
Great interview. Maya has so many insights, as does Ethan. I really like how her love of nature recognized how O'Connor welcomed the experiences of birds from the backward walking chicken to the peacock. Ethan and cowriter sound like they did a brilliant screenplay incorporating O'Connor's life with her stories. Remarkable, as he said, how his great desire to do O'Connor with spiritual themes from his childhood, was presented to him at the invitation of his daughter. Thank you, Bishop Barron. God bless you all.
It is good to see that Ethan Hawke as a good father encouraging and guiding his daughter to the right path. Jesus Christ is our Lord, the only Saviour. Thanks Bishop Barron for the interview with Father and Daughter! Christianity on display! God bless you all!
He also admitted to being comfortable with guiding her through sex scenes, but he didn't bother talking about that with Bishop Barron. Don't be deceived.
I did not see this coming. "God always has great timing." Or should I say, in times when we need guidence, or being delivered from a diffcult situation? God's timing is (always) perfect. Your Excellency, it is nice to see you kept the few things that is good about L.A. in your heart. May God Bless You, and His blessing to Ethan and Maya also. P.S. Maya if you are reading this? Five words; Dairy of Saint Maria Faustina. ❤
Wonderful conversation. I was recommended this because I'm a massive fan of the Hawkes (Ethan in particular), so expected a conventional discussion about the Flannery film. Little did I know how rich this dialogue would be, a fascinating dive into spirituality. One of my favourite interviews featuring either of them, and I've watched tens of hours' worth of interviews with them.
This is a good exchange: "Can you bear the prophetic identity?" "Most of us... fail, but the attempt [has] value." Also, I think people today (often young people), seem to think that they've "evolved" to a place where they can be very critical of the past (as if their values are inherently superior), although they frequently fail to see that their morals are no less bound to time and circumstance than those who preceded them. When pressed, they can almost never offer an objective basis for this supposed moral superiority, and are forced fall back on the popular consensus of tribe of their circumstance.
Maya was utterly brilliant as Robin in Stranger Things, with the character's tendency to blurt things out. When I heard she's playing my girl Flannery, I may have fist-bumped heaven. I hope they include That Incident where Flannery just blurted something out to defend the Holy Eucharist.
I love everything about this interview. Thank you all - this conversation has moments so powerful I want to weep. Such grace abounding, and such a testament to the power of God who moves in and through us in the artistic endeavor.
Ethan didn't mention in this interview about directing his daughter's sex scenes and joining didn't bother him. He saved that for another interview. They're Hollywood perverts, just like the rest of them.
Sincere thank you to all involved for this wonderful conversation. Credit to the Bishop for amplifying voices outside the right wing, which I feel can become an unnecessary bubble around the the Catholic Church in its dialogue. Greetings from Iowa City!
@brendamyc3173 True Catechisis happens in the home- it’s there where it flourishes, or doesn’t happen - or happens poorly. …Parents have free will to instill the faith in their children… the forces outside in a random Catechism class can’t compete. …And yes, many parents have failed and are in dereliction of duty. Fortunately- God does the choosing and we only need to turn to Him… and He will run to us.
I wonder what Bishop Baron would have said if given an opportunity. Other than that... great interview. I'm very happy artists are making spiritual movies again!
What a wonderful start of a video! So touching to see both views, the father, amazed at the evolution of the daughter, the daughter so eliquitely telling her story. Thanks
That's ridiculous. Gid is very clear. It's the devil who spreads confusion. Also, Ethan directed his daughter's sex scenes in this film and said he couldn't care less. They're twisted perverts.
Jesus save me I’m losing hope. Please come soon I don’t know how much longer I can hold on. But I’m keeping faith. I keep faith even as I constantly struggle to take care of my children and I’m constantly struggling to buy groceries. BUT I TRUST YOU LORD! My husband died years ago. At times I feel so alone. I’m a single mom. I suffered an heart attack a year ago and I’m battling lupus so my health is failing. Both of my sons are autistic. I praise you Lord even as I constantly struggling to pay rent. Help me Jesus as I struggle to buy my children’s school supplies because I want to give up. I don’t know how I’m going to get through this, but thankfully I have you Lord! I know you will provide. Faith over fear! Praise God and his son Yeshua!
We cannot cross the divide to befriend you in person. So, Lord, please help this woman recognize the person/persons who can befriend her. May she have a community where each can share the others' burdens. God bless you.
Wow. This conversation hit me right in the gut. I'm a Christian and also a writer of fiction. And I write because it's this thing inside of me that I have to get out. I have no choice. But why do I write? Is it to service my ego or do I write to glorify God? I tell myself it's for the latter but I'm not really sure. Maybe it's both. It's a dilemma I struggle with every day.
22:08 "Flannery, Thomas Merton, Walker Percy, Dorothy Day..." From this, I'm guessing Ethan Hawke has *surely* read Paul Elie's quad-biography on these four folks, 'The Life You Save May Be Your Own: An American Pilgrimage." I’m mostly through it now and what good timing to stumble across this interview.
How wonderful it is when some of our wonderful Creator's wonderful creations create wonderful creations for and about our wonderful Creator and some of His wonderful creations, for the benefit of His other wonderful creations.
I love what she said about all of us or some of us being part of a Mandala and shaping this forms to create a character. She has a degree of alter dimensions, that are not that abstract as this traits as colours and vitamins we use and are part to consume and create with.
I can honestly say I NEVER thought I'd see these three together.
Yeah, same here. This is almost as surprising as Shia becoming Catholic.
The best things in life are unexpected.
As a demon for a Dad, of course she’d end up here. Luckily she made the beautiful choice like her mom.
"God" or the maker of this universe is always connected to his creation in every way, and not just to those who go to church every Sunday or read the scriptures.
@@glenncrainmusic How is inane celebrities pushing an ancient fantasy in any way 'good', let alone 'the best'?
Ethan Hawk must be the coolest dad to have and Maya Hawk must be the coolest daughter to have. Such a deep love and mutual respect for each other as human beings and as artists. It's such a rare, beautiful thing to see. I'm so happy for them. I can only hope my daughter and I can have that type of friendship when she grows up!
He said he was "so comfortable directing her sex scenes." Bloody disgusting.
Sick Holywood weirdos.....Ethat was comfortable directing his daughters sex scenes....gross!
They're all narcissistic
Having a multimillionaire parent is usually 'cool'.
Currently battling an addiction that has consumed me for the last 13 years. I pray for the strength to overcome and will continue to fight to the end. God bless you all
You are stronger than the addiction. Keep going on you'll overcome this
I will pray for you, Christian.
The opposite of addiction is not sobriety, but connection.
Ask and you shall receive.
Every time I have thoughts I can’t control I say a Hail Mary until I feel peace. Try picking a prayer that’s meaningful to you and saying it when you’re having inclinations back towards your addiction or inclinations towards precursors to the addictive behaviors. God Bless. With God all things are possible.
I will pray for you also!!🙏
Fifty years of writing comic books...now in my 70s, realizing that "gift" came from the Holy Spirit...for a reason. I'm humbled, grateful beyond understanding, and continue to write comic books...to His Glory.
Which comic books are you or have you written @Airship27?
Ron Fortier? How cool is that! Thank you for all your writing work.
Thank you, that was most kind of you.@@thefangster
I certainly find the bible and comic books equally vacuous.
@@williamoarlock8634 In that case, what made you choose to spend time with this video?
Amazing conversation! I had no idea that Ethan and Maya were so into Flannery O’connor, and they had such elevated spiritual sensibilities. Bishop Barron keeps surprising me with unexpected brilliant conversations…
They discussed the rose window on your profile.
Spiritual sensibilities?
@@mr.horrorchild4094 Weird username 😜
Uma’s father is a venerated Buddhist scholar. It makes so much sense to me that this would impact Ethan’s life as well as Maya’s. So wonderful. ❤
@@melw6848 Spirituality is the realm of material and social privilege.
This was so beautiful. I adore Ethan Hawke and he’s smart. What a great guy and what a worthy project. God bless them
I love Ethan Hawks too. My first impression of him was in the movie Dead Poet’s Society. I loved the character he played. He is born to be an actor.
I enjoyed this interview so very much. I loved his insights and Maya’s too. She reminds me of myself when I was young. And of course I love and appreciate Bishop Barron’s intellectual and spiritual self. 👼
'Smart' by sheltered Christian standards.
@@williamoarlock8634 I'm sure your mind is so far above Lewis', Chesterton's, Ronald Knox's, Eliot's, et al, that we should be stunned to be in your cyberpresence. How lucky is that?!
@@bobtaylor170 I don't have any 'answer' and neither do these bourgeois, of-the-world-but-not-in-it Christian 'intellectuals'.
@@williamoarlock8634 YES!
The interview felt rewarding. Like I was Assigned a coach seat on the plane. Then the airline hostess says would you like to sit In First Class. Unexpected. ✌️
As an admirer of Flannery (as you might guess from my profile photo haha) I truly enjoyed this conversation. First of all, I love Ethans humility at the end to suggest that his conversation with the Bishop might impact his editing of the film! What a neat grace that is! I also enjoyed seeing how much time, energy, and knowledge (and respect) that the Hawks are putting into this project about O'Connor and I am beyond excited to see the film.
I think that the Bishop did a fantastic job of Christian "active listening" to affirm truth and to sometimes be silent and show respectful listening when less-than-orthodox ideas were shared, as he always models well. I was delighted to see such insighful, respectful dialogue happening between people who might have rather different opinions on many things here in the year 2023.
I felt a little protective of Flannery towards the end, however, when they suggested that her regionalism limited her in any way, or that she had somehow missed out on things, or might have been a "better person" (my words not Mayas but the sentiment seemed to be there) had she not had lupus and been able to live a more metropolitan, typical life. I was glad to hear Ethan say that it was lupus that opened the door to her genius, and I think this is the better reading. Her illness and the limitations and loneliness, not to mention the physical pain, that it brought her, were part of her vocation as a writer and she understood that well. I think, at the end, despite the hardships she wouldnt have had it any other way, as she had such a good theology of redemptive suffering.
Mary Flannery O'Connor is one of the most gifted writers of the modern age, and she is a gift to the Christian who longs or creative, insightful, honest fiction that is entirely Christocentric (a rare find). Her letters are just as profound a gift to humanity as her fiction was, as uncomfortable as she might have been to know they would be so widely read, as her faith and her unique character shines through them. I have learned so much "at her feet" by reading her, and I am so grateful that the Hawkes are using some of their hollywood cache to bring light to this underrated author and artist. May the Lord use this film for His glory and the good of others. Flannery O'Connor, Ora Pro Nobis.
Your comment is as passionate and descriptive as this profound interview. Haven’t read any of FOC’s writings but this conversation and your comment have totally opened me up to wanting to dive into her writings.
I could imagine a Director’s cut with commentary included from the good Bishop 🎉😊
Great comment, well said ❤
Yes please do! And I always tell people if they really want to get the most out of her fiction, read her collection of letters aswell. Understandin her mind and her theology makes them come to life so much more. God bless.@@guest4888
I also had a moment of "now, hold on a minute" around 01:01:30 when Maya Hawke suggested that Flannery OConnor's views would have changed if she hadn't been "so caged" in "such a small world" (her words). That combined with her body language any time faith and spirituality came to the forefront of the conversation told me that she only admires Flannery's wordsmithing and didn't fully grasp Flannery's ultimate motivation in her writing. Was she writing for her own glory? Or for God's?
And what's their goal in making this movie? Is this movie going to glorify the Hawkes? Or Flannery OConnor?
I appreciated this interview! I've written about Flannery O'Connor for years, and have written a bit in anticipation of this film. I understand that the Hawkes worked to respect O'Connor's faith, and in filming in Kentucky, consulted with the pastor of the parish which they used to stand in for Sacred Heart in Milledgeville. I was struck, though, by their very generalized understanding of Flannery's faith, most clearly expressed in the discussion of "Parker's Back" - no disrespect to what they saw in the story, but it's so obviously a story *about* the power and scandal of the incarnational faith that Catholic sacramental theology embodies - it's hard for me to see how they could *not* see it!
One more point: the grace moments that are at the center of O'Connor's work aren't just about seeing the world as it is - it's about seeing yourself as you are. As you really are, no matter what your pride tries to hide from you. The point in "Revelation" - a story mentioned in the interview - when Ruby rages at the memory of being called a "wart hog from hell" - she yells - "Who do you think you are?" ...and her words come back in an echo....
"about the power and scandal of the incarnational faith that Catholic sacramental theology embodies" I swear half the time I want to read commentaries because I find myself confused when reading most books.
I had the same thought about Parkers Back. There is definitely a commentary in that story on the fundementalist protestant embrace of the heresy of iconoclasm, and Ruby's rejection of a beautiful depiction of Christ due to her wrong theology, as well as the radical incarnational nature of the sacramental economy. But in their defense, some of that might sound like nonsense to them if they aren't at all steeped in Christian theology and thought (though it seems from Ethans past, at least, that he has some grasp on these concepts). Im still very much looking forward to the film, though, as they seem to be trying to be respectful even if they wont get it all right.
I've heard of Flannery O'connor but never read her work.. Where would be a good place to begin?
@lisaohare3328 Purely for hearing her voice and her oration, I would recommend A Good Man is Hard to Find (1952). It is on RUclips. Her twang is amazing.
@@lisaohare3328 It sort of depends. If you are only interested in her fiction, I would say start with her collected short stories, then move onto her novels. If you want a more thorough understanding of her from a theological perspective, however, I would actually suggest that you read her collected letters first, and then read her stories. Or, read them at the same time.
Incredible interview. Maya and Ethan, please make those wonderful vignettes in Wildcat of Flannery’s short stories into movies!🙏🏼
Oh, this is wonderful. I love that Ethan Hawke says he had read Flannery O'Connor, Walker Percy, and Thomas Merton. When I converted to Catholicism decades ago, I considered the three of them to be critical to my understanding of faith.. Terrific interview!
I love the respect Ethan and Maya express to each other
Bishop Robert Barron really brought me back to faith. All of these deep deep topics and issues I’ve struggled with in my life, he dissects and breaks them down in ways I can get on with. Father Mike Schmitz helped as well. I’ve posted on so many videos because from a struggling drug addict to what I am now, is nothing but a loving gift from God
Bishop Baron is a courageous man. I'm sure on a personal level he's very different than these two people, but I trust him to dialogue with others in this way.
Bishop Barron engages with people and tries to find a commonality with them. Their perspective might be different but Bishop Barron respects that and meets people where they are at the moment. Always a good move. By the way, I have always respected Ethan as an actor.
yeah so stunning so brave.
Yeah kind of like that Jesus guy
Thank you so much Bishop Barron and Ethan and Maya Hawke for such a wonderful and heart and soul felt discussion of Flannery and her peacockish ways. Blood runs true.
I want to see her audition monologue! Thank you Ethan & Maya for introducing me to Flannery through Wildcat! Her story really speaks to me! I’m new to Catholicism and to read her Prayer Journal made me realize my prayers sound just like hers… especially not feeling worthy. Thank you again 💜✝️🙏🏻🕊️
Fiction as a great art form seems often rather underated and I love to hear such a genuine conversation about art, this is a joy to listen to!
I just love Ethan in every way possible, he is so talented, intelligent and all. I just admire so much
The Holy Spirit brings all things full circle. A father and daughter duo. Amazing.
Blessed are the rich.
What an amazing interview!! So thrilled to hear all that Flannery communicates is being heard!! This movie has so much for all of us to learn!!
Very enjoyable interview; very revealing--about Flannery O'Connor and also about Ethan & Maya Hawke were so Catholic, so thoughtful, so well-read, so bright! This is what I needed to move me to read my first Flannery O'Connor book.
Really profound insight by Ethan that you discover who you are by what you love. "Holiness is the fruit of good desire." I learn who I am by my identity in Jesus Christ. Happy Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary!
Fought all the distractions to make it to Mass, a little late, but I made it and stayed after to pray the Rosary.
THIS IS WONDERFUL. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WILDCAT, BUT HEARING ETHAN AND MAYAS TALK OF THIER LIFE IN THE ARTS AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO GOD AND SOCIETY IN JUST GREAT.
The movie is really interesting and a thoughtful approach blending O' Connor's autobiography with her written stories. I think this movie will get multiple viewings at my house. I really enjoyed this conversation. Not your usual movie promotion!
For me now, at this time in my life, the greatest interview I’ve heard (and I have listened to many).. So rich in understanding Flannery, in reminding us of her spiritual and artistic vision. The Hawkes (father/daughter) are beautiful in their relationship and commitment to bringing authentic Flannery and her prophetic role. The interview was so natural, genuine, and “graceful.” Thanks to the loving relationship of Ethan(?) and Maya, their love of Flannery, their own spiritual mission, and to you Bishop Barron for creating a milieu for epiphanies to happen.
Great timing: I'm in the middle of her collected stories and collected letters. It's great to read whatever she writes aloud - it's enjoyable just to say the words as you imagine she would say them. The diction is half the joy of reading her works.
She has recited one of her short stories.
As a writer who also incorporates elements of the Catholic faith into my books, I deeply felt the part where they mentioned how Flannery submitted one of her books to a publisher who came back and said "it's great, but take these parts out". I felt that *so* keenly, and that's precisely why I elected to self-publish my stuff. Because secular agents and publishers don't "get it" when you include faith in a story that's not Christian fiction.
Futher, I have often said that I would never allow my books to be made into movies. Watching this interview cemented that resolve. If someone sees my books simply as "art" and fails to pick up on the deeper message, I wouldn't trust them to tell that story...
This felt very much like when you're praying in a beautiful cathedral, and tourists are wandering around with selfie sticks, taking pictures with the "beautiful art" rather than meditating on it and allowing it to transform them.
When you don't have anything nice to say say nothing. So I won't say anything
@@jenniferbond5771I will. The commenter has a rather precious view of herself. We can imagine how Flannery would have viewed that, can't we?
I think the Hawkes' approach is very respectful to O'Connor and her work.
Good talk. Bishop Barron has unbelievable patience. Lookin forward to reading Flannery O’Connor!
I would’ve never thought I’d see these three together. God bless ‘em
Splendid conversation!
Absolutely delightful; Flannery would have loved this, too, I believe. Beautiful how the conversation flowed and Bishop being so gracious. I pray for them to come to the fullness, can sense that in Maya's partial taking herself out of the conversation at points and entering in her fluttery lingo which is yet still ever so thoughtful and insightful. What a great discussion on life and grace! Thank you, Bishop. I missed Ethan when he was in Fort Worth at a showing - sold out fast. Somehow I think I received an even better seat at this event you arranged! and isn't that The Way! Peace.
That was really lovely.
“The goal is to turn as many ‘thems’ into ‘us’ as you can”
Genius line.
Pod people.
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What are pod people?
@@daves-c8919 Never seen 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' then.
I see Uma so much in Maya - beautiful and so very intelligent!
I can’t begin to explain how timely this conversation is and how much it blessed me. We are not alone. Thank you, thank you, thank you
Definitely a favorite of the Baron interviews!
Maya’s bird/nature, them/us story really touched me. Thank you for this conversation.
Man I really enjoyed this interview. It's reassuring to see a renewed audience of her work, I look forward to seeing the film!
The father directed the daughter's sex scenes in this film and he said he couldn't care less. Look it up. I'm not having a go at you. I just think you deserve the truth.
Thank you. That was a lovely interview & it really lifted my spirits. I just ordered a print copy of her short stories & I am so excited to see the film.
All the best,
Jimmy James
Didn’t expect this conversation, lovely!
Love the father -daughter bonding through work...
Blessed are the rich.
Great interview and unscripted, authentic discussion! As a Catholic and a filmmaker, this hit quite a few topics of interest related to creativity and spirituality.
once again i come to his channel curious of what he might had been up to and i find unexpected guests. Bishop Barron thank you and to Ethan and Maya im without words just incredible.
A great conversation with great insight into Flannery's work. I only missed more interventions from bishop Barron. I would like to hear more of his particular perspective of each story.
One of the best books i've read in recent years was Rules for a Knight, by Ethan Hawke. The Christian influence on the book is undeniable. So it's no surprise to see Ethan Hawke talking to Bishop Baron about making a film about a Catholic writer.
Nature is the connective tissue. Brilliant.
10 minutes in and this conversation already feels like a spin-off from the 'Before' Trilogy. Thank you Ethan, Maya and Bishop Barron!
This was a deep conversation about art and faith. I hope it was enjoyable and insighful for all three of them.
This was a great meditation that I need so badly and am encouraged that soon, I might sort out my confusion, as you provide a glimmer of hope. Thank you, one of the best ever.
I'm a true cinephile. From being bedridden for the first 6 years of my life watching films 24/7, and for the next 12 years a continued obsession with movie theaters all around Manhattan, always looking forward to doing movie marathons on 42nd Street. I never read a book those first 20 years. My brain since birth adapted to processing information through cinema logic, Proust merrily haunting every reel in defiance of Time and Space that comes easy to film art, which, I now realize at age 76, made me an outsider my entire life, making it impossible for me to socialize, for no one I knew knew film language and logic, how I communicated.
An excellent example of how film can dive into the depths of a subject that linguistic logic hasn’t even attempted yet is in the exploration of solipsism during this Age of Solipsism, having long ago transitioned from the Age of Narcissism. None of this to be found in books, but was explored to perfection in a Spierig brothers’ film, Predestination, where Ethan Hawke gets to display his radically unique and always entertaining approach to acting that has made him one of my favorite actors of all time (to begin an adventure into his acting, it can’t hurt to start with The Northman, Daybreakers and Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead; and if really bold, try his Hamlet).
Although I would eventually read all of what Flannery wrote, John Huston’s cinema adaptation of Wise Blood is my favorite dive into the imagination of Flannery and what she was up to, having watched it at least 40 times. And the making of that film contains my favorite story related to Flannery’s art:
Brad Dourif, playing the protagonist, Hazel Motes (an actor in that rare category of being radically unique and deep as an actor, like Hawke), along with Benedict and Michael Fitzgerald, screenwriters and advisors on set who had been lovingly close to Flannery since childhood, and other members on the set, including John Huston, all arguing about the religious framework of the film, Huston insisting on a strictly psychological interpretation, and the Fitzgeralds insisting God must remain in how the story is told, with Brad Dourif bravely and adamantly taking sides with the Fitzgeralds. At a certain point, Huston, an avowed atheist, had enough and stormed out.
The next morning all were at table for breakfast, except Huston. Halfway into breakfast, Huston arrives with his gargantuan ego hovering over them, and then saying with the authority of Samuel, “Ok-you can have your Jesus!”
And as far as grace, it is what’s always present sustaining and helping us to advance down many avenues of expression with degrees of intensity (“It’s not a matter of dialectics, but a matter of degrees.” - Nietzsche). The problem is we fight against grace because it always conforms to the incomprehensible logic and motion of God’s Providence that is always moving inside the will of the Father in his incomprehensible ways, what we most often reject in our willfulness, and thereby reject the graces present to and for us, an understanding of which is in my experience more easily accessed through film art, as in Tarkovsky’s The Sacrifice. And what art form travels deeper into the mystery of Man and Woman pulled irrevocably in the direction of one another while simultaneously trying to get away from each other, even unto death, than in Tarkovsky’s Solaris? Or persona at war with person in Ingmar Bergman’s Persona?
You would definitely love the film “First Reformed” starring Hawke - if you haven’t already seen it.
@@G-MIP Saw it and loved it. And of course there is Gattica.
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It’s about time I revisit Gattaca- last time I watched it was probably two decades ago. It was a great movie.
@@G-MIP Yeah - talk about creating mood....
I’m beyond excited to see this film. I have for quite a while now wondered how to write a biopic about Flannery. How difficult a project! I had envisioned Emma Stone as Flannery living with her mother, played by Allison Janney. Then I saw The Help and I became obsessed with the idea for a screenplay, but could not imagine how to actually pen such a problematic story. These two did it! It so happens that I’m presently writing a story specifically revolving around the wiley nature of grace that had and is working its magic on myself by dint of a year long relationship with a particular person that has come and gone. Flannery is quoted often in it. The thing is a blend of Bukowski and O’Connor, if one could I imagine such a thing. Thanks be to God for these two and the good Bishop to have them on. I’ve read everything I could get my hands regarding Flannery. Admirers should get familiar with Jessica Hooten Wilson. Look her up and you will be blessed. I’ll just leave it there.
So wonderfully insightful and encouraging, good conversations are hard to come by these days. Thanks to both parties for a great discussion.
I wanted to hear Bishop Barron more. Ethan and Maya took over.
I personally like when an interviewer allows the people he is interviewing to talk so many times the interviewer takes over and it becomes about interviewers ideas rather then who interviewee
@@marcienicholson3051 You are right. I didn't realize that the Bishop was the interviewer. My bad.
Loved this episode! Loved Maya & Ethan, and you as always Bishop Barron! Working on my first Flannery now.
Congratulations Ethan on debut! I will definitely see this film and maybe probably read one of her books and see where it goes.
And they sing together! I love this so much. ❤
Fantastic Bishop. Love Ethan and even more so now.
Such a wonderfully enriching conversation. Really impressed with Ethan and Maya's ability to articulate spiritual threads. Bishop Barron amazing as always. Feeling very uplifted by this. Plus inspired to go read some Flannery O Connor books for the first time.
She is a one-of-a-kind author for sure...
Great interview. Maya has so many insights, as does Ethan. I really like how her love of nature recognized how O'Connor welcomed the experiences of birds from the backward walking chicken to the peacock. Ethan and cowriter sound like they did a brilliant screenplay incorporating O'Connor's life with her stories. Remarkable, as he said, how his great desire to do O'Connor with spiritual themes from his childhood, was presented to him at the invitation of his daughter. Thank you, Bishop Barron. God bless you all.
It is good to see that Ethan Hawke as a good father encouraging and guiding his daughter to the right path. Jesus Christ is our Lord, the only Saviour.
Thanks Bishop Barron for the interview with Father and Daughter! Christianity on display!
God bless you all!
Maya Hawke. A wild liberal.
@@PhilosophiaeAmatorthat may be but the seed has been planted. It needs time to germinate.
He also admitted to being comfortable with guiding her through sex scenes, but he didn't bother talking about that with Bishop Barron. Don't be deceived.
I did not see this coming. "God always has great timing." Or should I say, in times when we need guidence, or being delivered from a diffcult situation? God's timing is (always) perfect. Your Excellency, it is nice to see you kept the few things that is good about L.A. in your heart.
May God Bless You, and His blessing to Ethan and Maya also. P.S. Maya if you are reading this? Five words; Dairy of Saint Maria Faustina. ❤
Absolutely wonderful and fascinating interview that captivates and immerses one into the depth of Flannery O'Connor. Wish it wold have never ended!
The excitement of how they talk about their brilliant work together is fascinating. I can't wait to watch it plus all the future work!
Wonderful conversation. I was recommended this because I'm a massive fan of the Hawkes (Ethan in particular), so expected a conventional discussion about the Flannery film. Little did I know how rich this dialogue would be, a fascinating dive into spirituality. One of my favourite interviews featuring either of them, and I've watched tens of hours' worth of interviews with them.
Great film! Thank you for creating it.
This is a good exchange: "Can you bear the prophetic identity?" "Most of us... fail, but the attempt [has] value." Also, I think people today (often young people), seem to think that they've "evolved" to a place where they can be very critical of the past (as if their values are inherently superior), although they frequently fail to see that their morals are no less bound to time and circumstance than those who preceded them. When pressed, they can almost never offer an objective basis for this supposed moral superiority, and are forced fall back on the popular consensus of tribe of their circumstance.
Worthy of Jordan Peterson 🙄
This was a great discussion! This is why we read! Keep em coming! God bless you!
This was a fascinating conversation to watch! I look forward to seeing this film!
Maya was utterly brilliant as Robin in Stranger Things, with the character's tendency to blurt things out. When I heard she's playing my girl Flannery, I may have fist-bumped heaven. I hope they include That Incident where Flannery just blurted something out to defend the Holy Eucharist.
When she was with smug New Yorkers I think
@@georginatalamo2451 Oh yes!
But 'your Flannery' was no 'girl' she was a withered husk under 30.
@@williamoarlock8634she had lupus, and you're a vicious, horrible b*st*rd.
@@williamoarlock8634she had lupus, and you reveal a lot of who you are with such a comment.
Her youth, her enthusiasm...remember feeling that way? God, it was so great to be so young.
Love you Bishop Barron.. you’re a blessing to the church
Brilliant conversation. Thank you! I’m absolutely going to see the film.
I love everything about this interview. Thank you all - this conversation has moments so powerful I want to weep. Such grace abounding, and such a testament to the power of God who moves in and through us in the artistic endeavor.
Ethan didn't mention in this interview about directing his daughter's sex scenes and joining didn't bother him. He saved that for another interview. They're Hollywood perverts, just like the rest of them.
I am so amazed at the recent proliferation of faith based content! Thank God for all of it!
Love this. I relate to their personal journeys so much and these writers have affected so many at different places on their spiritual sojourns.
Fascinating conversation with three people whose work I admire. And lots of references to “Parker’s Back” - my fav Flannery story! 👍🏻
This was an excellent conversation.
Great interview! Thank you so much 🙏🏻
Sincere thank you to all involved for this wonderful conversation.
Credit to the Bishop for amplifying voices outside the right wing, which I feel can become an unnecessary bubble around the the Catholic Church in its dialogue.
Greetings from Iowa City!
@brendamyc3173
True Catechisis happens in the home- it’s there where it flourishes, or doesn’t happen - or happens poorly.
…Parents have free will to instill the faith in their children… the forces outside in a random Catechism class can’t compete.
…And yes, many parents have failed and are in dereliction of duty.
Fortunately- God does the choosing and we only need to turn to Him… and He will run to us.
I wonder what Bishop Baron would have said if given an opportunity. Other than that... great interview. I'm very happy artists are making spiritual movies again!
Loved Maya’s signaling section! Just listening to her speak you can see her mind sorting through artistic expression to try and make a serious point.
What a delightful discourse.Thanks.
Glad to see Officer Hoyt continue to fly straight after surviving his training day.
My favorite movie of all time
Amen too that!
Most beautiful discussion between three people who are on a journey
What a wonderful start of a video! So touching to see both views, the father, amazed at the evolution of the daughter, the daughter so eliquitely telling her story. Thanks
"if you can understand it, that's not God" --- wow! love this. what a great conversation
That's ridiculous. Gid is very clear. It's the devil who spreads confusion. Also, Ethan directed his daughter's sex scenes in this film and said he couldn't care less. They're twisted perverts.
Blessed are the rich.
May they come to the fullness of faith.
Wow, this was even better than i expected .
Thank you so much for rhis great conversation.
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Jesus save me I’m losing hope. Please come soon I don’t know how much longer I can hold on. But I’m keeping faith. I keep faith even as I constantly struggle to take care of my children and I’m constantly struggling to buy groceries. BUT I TRUST YOU LORD! My husband died years ago. At times I feel so alone. I’m a single mom. I suffered an heart attack a year ago and I’m battling lupus so my health is failing. Both of my sons are autistic. I praise you Lord even as I constantly struggling to pay rent. Help me Jesus as I struggle to buy my children’s school supplies because I want to give up. I don’t know how I’m going to get through this, but thankfully I have you Lord! I know you will provide. Faith over fear! Praise God and his son Yeshua!
You are not alone, you have a community, who struggle, and love you. Yours prayers are our prayers. 🙏
God Bless and Keep You. 💖🙏🏻🙏🏻💖
May God hold you close and grant you the strength to endure this trial.🙏🙏🙏
I like to Pray before the blessed sacrament. If your parish has and adoration chapel. It will bring you much peace.
I am being evicted today. I understand
We cannot cross the divide to befriend you in person. So, Lord, please help this woman recognize the person/persons who can befriend her. May she have a community where each can share the others' burdens. God bless you.
Nice! God Bless you.
Wow. This conversation hit me right in the gut. I'm a Christian and also a writer of fiction. And I write because it's this thing inside of me that I have to get out. I have no choice. But why do I write? Is it to service my ego or do I write to glorify God? I tell myself it's for the latter but I'm not really sure. Maybe it's both. It's a dilemma I struggle with every day.
22:08 "Flannery, Thomas Merton, Walker Percy, Dorothy Day..." From this, I'm guessing Ethan Hawke has *surely* read Paul Elie's quad-biography on these four folks, 'The Life You Save May Be Your Own: An American Pilgrimage." I’m mostly through it now and what good timing to stumble across this interview.
I looked the book up because of this comment and ended up buying a copy for myself. Looking forward to reading it! Thanks for the recommendation.
Great interview, I’m really looking forward to seeing Wildcat!
Fantastic interview for the artist! Will listen again.
22:07-22:36 Incredible list of Catholic thinkers and, maybe, saints!
Fascinating to get this conversation at this stage in the film's creation. Really looking forward to it.
Never knew this serious side of Ethan Hawk. God bless!!
“All we’re trying to do is turn as many people as possible from “thems” into “us-es”. -Maya Hawke
They broke my soul and expanded it.
Turning us all into Christian zombies.
@@williamoarlock8634so far, you're only a zombie.
How wonderful it is when some of our wonderful Creator's wonderful creations create wonderful creations for and about our wonderful Creator and some of His wonderful creations, for the benefit of His other wonderful creations.
I love what she said about all of us or some of us being part of a Mandala and shaping this forms to create a character. She has a degree of alter dimensions, that are not that abstract as this traits as colours and vitamins we use and are part to consume and create with.
Wow! Eagerly anticipating this one!