How to make painting panels
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- In this video I show the simplest and easiest way I know to make great quality panels for oil painting.
Materials
. Birch or Maple Plywood (1/4 inch thick)
. Sandpaper
. Shellac
. Brush or sponge brush
. Acrylic Gesso
. Artist retouch varnish
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Hi, I am the son of two artists and began painting in my hometown of Richmond, Virginia before I could walk. I was a rare combination of artist and athlete so I moved to Los Angeles in 2008 to play football for USC. I left the team my sophomore year to focus on painting and filmmaking, applying the same focus and discipline from my football career to my art. I primarily work in oils, and spend most free days painting "en plein air" around Los Angeles.
Where to find me:
Website: www.chrisfornataro.com
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My husband bought what we call hardwood..in England. It’s great cos het cuts it to sizes I want. He sands them and I then gesso them and I love them and it’s cheap!🥰🥰🐶🐶🇬🇧👍👍👏🏼
Oh man so super easy to do and thanks for this.
2:19 is where the instruction starts
Great tutorial. I loved it how you showed us exactly what to shop for at stores.
So happy to find this thank you so much for making this video
I really love the fact that you mention economics here. This is a huge consideration in how I make things. I know you like to cut costs and streamline things, I am curious how you have changed over the past four years since this video... I myself have begun the up my quality and increase the volume, (and cut my costs considerably) by buying larger sheets of plywood at a lower cost, then adding a cradle to the back. (I might mention I have a workshop that allows me to do this) What changes have you made and why? Love to hear about this! I am not a RUclipsr by any means but there is an example of my work on the channel.
@@dianehansma1725 Well, I make cradles for all my panels now, and they act as a frame would for a regular cotton canvas, however, many artist that use just panels hang their art by framing it into floating frames or as in the case of my favorite wildlife artist Robert Bateman, he uses two sticky backed hangers stuck to the back of his Masonite panel, and hangs it onto a regular hooks, or nails on the wall.
@@dianehansma1725 They can, I mentioned that Robert Bateman (a Canadian btw) uses sticky back hangers?
I prefer 1/4 inch ply, its a little stiffer and oddly enough just as cheap. But with the way birch plywood is priced, I have never gone for it, and that is why I cradle my work- to keep it from warping. If I were to use the plywood as is, I would go for a better quality birch 1/4" plywood.
@@chrisgriffith1573 darn, lol, I just can't get away from cradling I guess. I just thought there is enough thickness to put in a small screw eyelet to put wire through it so it can be hung. Thank you for your time!!
Thank you for this video! Very straight forward…..
I love wood panels for acrylics, especially acrylic pours (though I’ve heard there’s some risk of discoloration with that use-case too), but what I’ve heard is that wood really isn’t ideal for oil painting, because acids can leech out into the paint & damage the paint films over time, harming the archivability of the painting. What I’ve read is that this is a much bigger issue with oils than acrylics (which are more resilient to the acidity) & makes wood panels not super well-suited for oils, at least if you want the painting to last. I don’t know if sealing it with shellac significantly reduces that problem or if the warnings I’ve heard are taking that into consideration, but something to think about.
What I’ve heard is a much better alternative is ACM panel- basically an aluminum composite panel with aluminum surfaces sandwiched around some kind of very hard, rigid, durable material (usually some kind of plastic I believe). From what I’ve heard (there are some great videos more experienced oil painters than me have made about why they consider it the ideal surface for the medium), these ACM/MCM (metal composite material) panels are supposed to be much more reliably pH neutral, highly durable (certainly more so than canvas panel, which it’s fairly easy to dent the corners of)- just all around very good for the archivability & survivability of oil paintings. I haven’t personally tried it yet, because I’m trying to figure out where to get it at a good price in my area (apparently you can get better prices from various big suppliers rather than art supply stores, but they do tend to be marketing it either for construction or other industrial supply purposes, so it does get a bit confusing looking at their sites & trying to figure out what kind you need, how much it’ll cost, how small of an order they’ll be willing to sell for art purposes… But anyway, if one does some research, watches some do the videos about using ACM for oil painting, answers should be forthcoming. Regardless of where you get it from, how good of a price you get, it should be a really great alternative for oils specifically (though it can take acrylics & whatever else, depending on what kinds of grounds/primers you apply to prepare it). I hear you can also cut it to whatever size you want pretty easily.
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Martín Prado thanks! More to come!
Good advice to save money. Its cheaper to purchase 4x8 sheets of plywood then the cut down sizes
brilliant.
The artist retouch varnish was a great tip. I'd seen other artists use the canvas with a Burnt Sienna wash and wondered why? Now I know they are using the varnish with it. Still unsure why you use that color though?
it's so you get a neutral base color to start of at. starting from pure white gives an off-sense of the colors.
is traditinal gesso good for plywood panels and end with shellac?
How do you frame these panels
Thanks for the video. Was searching RUclips for a simple backing board to tape the watercolor paper to. The plywood seems like a good choice. Since I won't be actually painting the board itself, would I need to seal the board? If so, which of the steps in your video would you recommend? Thanks!
How do you frame a panel?
Thank you very much. H E L P - ANYBODY - I'm trying to find an archival surface to do small 5" x 7"s and 8" x 10" paintings on to sell to local tourists during the season. But I absolutely must keep all my material costs down in order to charge the lowest prices possible for my work, selling through gift shops that have their mark up also on a painting. So far it seems the only surface I can afford are the cheap cotton canvas boards sold in like Walmart, but that are made from some kind of cardboard with canvas glued on it. They are definitely not archival. Your method still costs more than would work for my problem. Do you have any other ideas? I really want a smooth surface to work on, but cheap. I'm stumped.
You can use 1/8” or 1/4” hardboard from HD. Comes approximately in 4x8 sheets. The issue is getting it cut down to sizes. Maybe you know someone with a tablesaw. HD will cut the sheets down to a manageable size, but not small sizes. A friend cuts his with a fine blade on his circular saw after laying out grid patterns and using a long straight edge. He uses thick foam underneath so the blade doesn’t cut into anything important. A carpenters circ saw or jigsaw work but it’s never very precise and can be dangerous. I cut a lot of these in my shop for my artist spouse, with a large table saw. To get it to archival quality I coat all surfaces with GAC100 a couple coats minimum, then Gesso sanding and drying between coats. For small panels you don’t need to cradle them (a glues frame underside). Some very expensive archival commercial panel are made this way. Hardwood veneered panel are good too but the veneers chip so easily these days as the veneers are so so thin. The boards can also warp. I use Baltic Birch high end sheet good material for that, then seal and gesso too. These finishing products aren’t cheap. Even the inexpensive lined covered cardboard panels you buy should be gessoed with extra coats. Unfortunately nothing is cheap if you want true archival. Sometimes the panel perhaps doesn’t need to be true archival. It’s all about price points for what you get. Maybe the pre covered linen panels are okay if you can research around and find a better composition subpanel material than cardboard. That might be your cheapest option if you want the textured surface.
Can I paint with acrylics on top of this touch up varnish? If not, which one should I use?
Have you ever tried MDF board?
Canyou say why you use birch instead of tempered hardboard or eucoboard?
Does Chris shellac both sides of the panel?
I've seen a few tutorials on this say to use Gac-100 prior to the gesso. Is this necessary or not, especially if you seal the wood with shellac?
Are there any qualities to look out for when choosing a board to know which ones to choose and which ones to avoid? I assume these boards are manufactured in a way that might not have flaws like weak knots and whatnot in them, but I wouldn't know and figured I would ask.
Sorry if any of them are stupid lol.
Thank you for sharing your ideas! Have you ever painted on larger size masonite? I want to cut size into 32x48~~~masonite, as far as I know, the only panel that has a rough side, which I prefer. I am 65 and learning abstracts but I prefer to paint larger ones. The 24x36 hardboard panels get expensive. Once framed on the back, I am sure it will be heavy, but I think that would work. Afterall, people hang heavy mirrors on their walls, so why not a painting? What do you think? I value your opinion. Thank you so much for your time!!
Weird question: I have a very large canvas photography backdrop. Is it possible to cut it into squares or rectangles and use them by attaching to frames, or glue them to paint boards?
Great video and thanks for the tutorial. Question: Did you shellac all sides of the panel and then gesso on one, or did you just shellac on the non-gesso sides of the panel?
Danny Scott Prejoles I only shellac the back. It probably would work sealing both sides though. I honestly haven’t dived deep into panel building. I find it’s worth the money to buy linen panels and save the time.
Good to know. Thanks for the follow up.
Thanks Chris. I love your videos. I know you don’t use this method much, but was there any particular reason you chose retouch varnish? So you think another varnish such as gamvar would work? Thanks 🎨
thanks
I've watched a few "how to prep wood for oil painting" videos and why is no-one else sealing the backside? Does the sealer prevent oil from seeping through, or does it just protect the backside of the panel from water or dirt, so that the front won't get damaged over time?
What thickness is best for bigger birch plywood panels like 100cm × 70cm that it not get wavy ?
I am using raw wood for canvas but am not able to get a clear understanding on how to prep with a clear seal and still oil paint on top. Have some scrap pieces i am testing using Tung Oil as a base layer to keep it natural looking and almost give a base for the oil paint. Thoughts?
Have you looked at ABS plastic panels?
What are your thoughts on Fredrix pro series Belgian linen panels ?
Merhaba..En iyi sonuç Su bazlı Cesso mu, yağ bazlı Cesso mu sürülür ahşap panele
Do you seal and gesso both sides or just seal one side and then gesso the other?
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Quick question- is that type of varnish only compatible with oil paint? I am making these panels for acrylic & gouache. Thank you! ☮️ 💜
retouch varnish works only with oil paint, but I've never seen before this way to using it.
Can GAC 100 be used in place of shellac? Also at 3:18 what are you spraying??
The shellac sealer to keep moisture out. Even if he isn't using water in his art, humidity in the air can still effect and damage the wood over time without protection.
Do I need to gesso the wood panel if I'm using acrylic paints?
How do you frame and or hang your panels?
Same question
Hey, What size do you feel comfortable going up to before you have to cradle this 1/4 ply?
Bluegrass Arts Anne I’m not too sure. The largest I go is 9x12 bc that’s what my pochade box holds. If I want bigger I just go to stretched canvas and grab my French easel.
I am going to make a 40x40 panel, never tried it before~~~ if you like painting abstract art or just simply like a larger size. Either masonite or mdf, not sure yet~~~larger canvases are way too expensive!! Also, I know you can use primer from a hardware store at a fraction of the cost instead of Gesso, about two coats. You can always try it on a smaller panel, nothing to lose.
Found out GAC 100 from golden blocks oil and moisture absorption and is used under gesso
Can I clean wood panels with water and dishwashing liquid before painting?
The raw unsealed panel may absorb the water and swell so probably not a good idea.
Am making 3×6 feet wood panel. Will it be so heavy for the wall. How to hand it to the wall. Can you please give suggestions?
I have one about that size on my wall. Not too heavy.
Are you sure these will not warp??
I think that's why he chooses these types of wood and applies all the stuff. If it's something you worry about, maybe get a small scrap of these types of wood (some places like Lowe's and Home Depot have sections of scrap wood that you can just take from or pay very cheaply) and test them out. Be as rough with them as you can, rougher than you think you'd ever be when you make your paintings, and see how they hold up. There's only knowledge to gain by testing them out.
Is that work for acrylic and portrait paint?
hi, was the spary sealer you put on the back of the panels shelac?
Yes it was.
I've never heard of treating panels with retouch varnish on top of the gesso before. Do you still use this method? How long do you have to let it dry before it's safe to paint on? Thanks!
He says in the video, Arvetis
Is it ok not to add burnt sienna and just the varnish? Cause I prefer painting on a white canvas
Yes, he just adds the burnt sienna to tint it to his liking.
Hi, what's a role of gesso layers? Are they necessary?
The gesso is the primer that the paint chemically bonds to. Without it, the paint would flake off, soak through the wood and warp and rot it, not be controllable for the artist, etc. I don't know the exact ins and outs of oil and acrylic mediums, but I know this much. So yes; it's a necessity, but it isn't expensive. Even cheap gesso is better than none.
I'm guessing that I shouldn't do this in an apartment huh.
Please shut down the background music? So distracting!!
Way too lengthy. don't talk so much before you get started we don't need all of that information,. thanks