Dealers are working hard to make themselves irrelevant. Pretty much any new EV startup will follow the Tesla model of skipping dealers entirely and selling direct to consumer. The mafia tactics of forcing consumers to eat inflated prices and/or add ons will come back to bite them eventually. Keep fighting the good fight, man. Love your dealer markup roasts!
Haha thanks brother! You’re 100% right about that. Ford’s CEO has hinted at moving to the Tesla model several occasion now. They’re even beginning to make that change in Europe. Not here yet of course… wonder what car sales will look like in 2040… 🤔
Unfortunately these are the times we live in. You found what you wanted and needed after many phone calls and your time is worth more than the "overpaid" price. I am not in the market for a minivan but I do shop other Toyota prices. The Sienna is very low inventory compared to other models. Some dealers I've searched have one or none. So all in all, you got it, now enjoy it!
I remember car manufacturers a year ago openly talking about changing their tactics regarding selling on low inventory... I'm surprised no-one remembers this in the news.
Seinna concern..... I have 2022 and we have had problems with battery going dead periodically when it sat over night. Come to figure out the door sensors for the 2 rear doors stay on and run down batteries. You can turn them off in the dash settings. If you don't use them I'd turn them off cause it's same to charge battery in back. When the battery is dead u can upen the back hatch so you have to crawl over seats to get to the small battery on passenger side. And its 6 month back order to get new sensors too. Otherwise it's been great.
Got mine 2 weeks ago so AWESOME You did real good man real good No vehicle stacks up all around Gas mileage, comfort, size, features etc 2023 White AWD 25th AE Paid 59K OTD delivered to me Was 500 miles away so had to do the math about picking it up and time off work and they told me I had to get it the day it arrived at the dealership or it would be sold to someone else About 3k in addons in that price like you The local toyota dealer it shipped to for pickup offered me 65k to sell it to someone else on pickup day probably for 70k-75k after just like you I called about 50 dealers for 8 months to find an XSE to then get lucky and find this 25AE with no actual markup except for the addons No regrets at all and I absolutely drive around with a big smile on my face Most expensive vehicle I have ever purchased but worth every penny Everyone loves it once I show them everything on it and it looks amazing Everyone loves it and can’t get one Especially not at the price you paid You did real good man
I commented before about my excitement when the dealership called us saying they had one of these coming and that we could get it at MSRP. We go to the appointment to value our trade in and to put down the money to reserve it. Surprise surprise, once we get there, the sale guy acts all surprised that the other guy (not there for the appointment) would promise such thing, and said we should still reserve it with their 20% (yes, that's right 20%!!!!!) Markup. Take it or leave it. So, of course we left, angry that they wasted our time with this bait and switch, but lesson learned.
That’s just slimy… leave them multiple 1 star reviews on google. Shame on that dealer for pulling that. I’m sorry. Hope you’re able to get another one secured soon.
Thanks man, I’m happy with it! My time is valuable to me… didn’t want to spend countless hour searching and calling to save another $1000. That $15K markup is ludacris… smh
I am shopping for a sienna minivan too at Los Angeles area. They have a lot of in transit listed but no one have any available. I found couple dealerships marked up $5000 and added a lot of after market accessory and added the other $2000-3000 more for it. Toyota let go Crazy!
I like it. No SUV is as useful as a minivan for people/family hauling when you have a family of more than 4. The size of SUV you need to have the same level of storage makes the vehicle huge, bad on gas, and more cumbersome to maneuver in parking lots and garages. And the Sienna is the best of the minivans IMHO. So this is a W. No, the cool factor is not there, but that's why you have another vehicle!
That’s a great van. I was lucky enough to get the awd silver 25th anniversary edition with ottoman at msrp. I would love to have the wind chill color but I jumped on it because of the scarcity of this edition. Awesome van though. Congrats. There was a dealership in California that marked theirs up by $12,000. Supposedly most dealerships was only getting one of these in. But who knows.
Nice, ( I still have my grey 2004 Sienna AWD limited, 120K miles and everything still works beside the sonar, with snow tires its unstoppable up to tahoe snow trips , but only 18-19mpg on prem)
After 12 months wait and talking to 25+ dealers across CA, I got my Sienna Platinum AWD last week with $6K mark up! The Bay Area dealer marked up $15K and had to negotiate to get it down!! Atleast this dealer was straight didn’t push us for any additional options to buy on top!! Not sure if we over paid but got the color, options we exactly needed, overall happy with the car and enjoying it!!
Don't feel bad. I called about 15 dealers in CA. After 5 months of searching, I found 2 dealers that sells them at under 1k over msrp. The rest wants 5k to 15k over msrp. Paying about 50k for an XSE with all the bells and whistles.
Longo Toyota is MSRP only, but have to wait a while. Long Lexus is the same, but wait is long on all hybrid. I end up buying a Lexus NX hybrid at Crown Lexus at MSRP with no add ons.
my dad is a broker, has sold a couple new siennas. I got my limited awd for $56k which was sticker in 2021. I could sell it now for close to $70k because no one in Canada can get these.
For $1,400 you could of bought them 2 brand new iPad mini and 2 mounts and still be under $1,000. Nevertheless, I love the minivan! 😢 that’s how you know I’m getting old and a dad (29 years old)
I agree. I have already passed up 3 Siennas that have the crappy & expensive Entertainment package, as I don't want to pay for it and I don't want it hanging from the ceiling, taking up space and blocking the view.
Here in Honolulu we usually have to order vehicles and wait. RAV4 hybrid & prime as well as Sienna Hybrid can’t be ordered per Toyota corporate. I really would’ve gotten Sienna Hybrid then RAV4 hybrid and lady RAV4 Prime over my Model Y.
They forced you to spend $2000 on something you may not have needed/wanted? Sounds criminal...I'd tell them to go you know what and go to a different dealership. I'm currently looking to change to a van too for practicality reasons and dealers in MA are low on inventory as well so we'll see if the waiting game pays off :)
Did you pay that much with tax or w/o? I'm on the verge of commiting to this and I really dont feel being suckered. We're looking into a 25th Anniversay Edition as well.
Exactly. We will receive our 2024 Lexus NX hybrid next month and I told my salesperson I will not pay a dime over MSRP nor add ons. He checked with his manager and ok’d it in writing. They are out there, but you might have to wait.
I paid a 5k markup on top of all the crap they threw in. Which makes me really upset. Honestly I will never buy from that dealer we got our XSE 25AE again or recommend. They honestly are screwing customers by loading accessories and markups. To top it off, im getting the front PPFed and that ceramic coating I paid extra for needs to be removed before I can have the PPF done. Extra $400 after paying for the ceramic coat and Crappy factory partial PPF. Times are tough for family yet toyota and dealers are greedy. Anyways enjoy your sienna. We will try to enjoy ours as well.
Did the dealer forced you? You had a choice. I called 20 Lexus dealers in the whole state of California and I refused to pay MSRP on my wife’s 2024 Lexus NX hybrid and two dealers agreed. If they didn’t, I would just buy her a Mazda CX5 or CX9 which are selling at MSRP in my area.
@@jml9550 I could have waited but I probably wouldn't have gotten a 25th AE sienna. Only 2525 will be built and the dealer basically said if we pass on this car they will go to the next person on their list. We have been waiting on a sienna for almost a year.
@@aktong28 well that’s the choice you made to get the AE and price you were willing to pay. Sure you are entitled to be upset by the decision and the fact that you knew if you didn’t pay it would’ve gone to the next willing buyer, again nobody forced you. I know a co worker who paid $20k over his new corvette when it came out, he knew the markup he has to pay to be the very few in the area and he made the choice. He wasn’t upset but looking back 2 years later he admitted it was stupid. Don’t blame Toyota and the dealer entirely, you chose to participate in this. No dissing you here but we as adult made decisions and should considered consequences.
@@jml9550 yeah it's on me. I know. But not given an option to choose my options and loading up practically every AE with extras is on Toyota. As for the dealer adding unneeded accessories like $70 usb charge cables, ceramic coating for 1k to name a few is a profit making move on them. I made that choice because we needed a van for our family. Don't need you to be a keyboard warrior and make me or anyone else that paid a markup feel upset with their decision. I'm simply giving my take. Don't need to state the obvious that it is our choice. Obviously we made the decision to buy. Im just stating that my feelings on how toyota and the dealer took advantage of the situation that's all. Yes I considered the "consequences" but I wanna exercise my right to voicing my dislike.
@@aktong28 well you stated your distaste on markup and other stuff publicly. Then you should expect other people’s comments as well. Calling me a keyboard warrior does not hurt my feeling nor I care how upset you are. It won’t change the fact that it was entirely on you to willingly participate in the game with both Toyota and the dealership to get the AE. You could have gotten a lower trim version at MSRP which apparently you weren’t willing to take. I will leave it at that.
You can swap bumpers and grill from a xse to any other model. I've seen a platinum with a xse front. Looks pretty nice. The dealer won't do it for you but I'm sure any body shop can.
Just out of curiosity, how much is the new Grand Highlander on your radar? I prefer body on frame trucks and SUV’s but the GH seems like the perfect family hauler. I wouldn’t mind a review of one…they seem really cool if you can get good mpg’s.
I just bought a 2023 toyota highlander xle for 39k. We sold our 2012 sienna, and was looking for another car. I looked online and saw this one dealer offering a few highlanders 5k under msrp, went it test drove 2 of them and finally bought the white one. At least I know that way if I sell it withing a year I can still get my money back.
Seems like XSE and above like what untamed said. But XLEs are in high demand too. Also I love how you asked about sienna models yet some guy chimes in about lexus nx. 🤣 Nobody asked about the demand of Lexus.
Congrats on your car. Personally, I refuse to pay any markup for any reason. Even if it’s just a $1000 or a $1 markup. Paying markup basically tells them we’re suckers. There is no such thing as market value. There are dealers who offer MSRP prices.
Till people stop over paying for this car, there is no reason for them to stop over charging for it. Toyota used to be known as affordable and reliable. Now they starting to be known as just greedy.
man toyota needs to get their shit together. how are these people charging these prices for Minivans! plus they're selling to Parents who are already financially struggling trying to raise families. Give us a fucking break. :(
What Inflation And Recession if you can afford $55 or $60 thousand dollars car! Most people buying this car because of big family, a house payments and $60 thousand car payment the numbers doesn’t add up!
You're not a goober, but that is a goober vehicle 😂. Just kidding; with all those kids, you may have to get one of Good Times Van's. Do they still make them???
As long as there are such stupid people who are willing to pay more than this car is worth, the dealer will fill his pockets full of money at the expense of these people. Stop buying cars for at least one year and you will see their prices fall. but for now there is.demand due to stupid people, prices will be even higher.
Correction: the XSE starts around $43K… the LE starts around $36K. Sorry about that!
did you mention if this purchase model is awd or fwd? did not catch that.
@@yoshigolfer1512 the one I bought here was the Fwd model. Some small differences between this and the AWD. Like the wheels.
Dealers are working hard to make themselves irrelevant. Pretty much any new EV startup will follow the Tesla model of skipping dealers entirely and selling direct to consumer. The mafia tactics of forcing consumers to eat inflated prices and/or add ons will come back to bite them eventually. Keep fighting the good fight, man. Love your dealer markup roasts!
Haha thanks brother! You’re 100% right about that. Ford’s CEO has hinted at moving to the Tesla model several occasion now. They’re even beginning to make that change in Europe. Not here yet of course… wonder what car sales will look like in 2040… 🤔
@@UntamedMotors Hopefully different, but the dealer lobby is powerful...
Unfortunately these are the times we live in. You found what you wanted and needed after many phone calls and your time is worth more than the "overpaid" price. I am not in the market for a minivan but I do shop other Toyota prices. The Sienna is very low inventory compared to other models. Some dealers I've searched have one or none. So all in all, you got it, now enjoy it!
Thanks Greg, you’re right about that. 👌 💯
Appreciate it man.
Welcome to the future of car buying. Manufactures and dealers have figured out that low inventory = high profit.
Thanks a lot COVID !!!
I remember car manufacturers a year ago openly talking about changing their tactics regarding selling on low inventory... I'm surprised no-one remembers this in the news.
Nice practical review of your buying experience. Refreshing.😊
Love it! Congratulations! Wish my wife would allow us to get a van. So much more family friendly.
Thank you! I’m shocked by how much we love it… super comfortable and tons of conveniences. 👌
Seinna concern..... I have 2022 and we have had problems with battery going dead periodically when it sat over night. Come to figure out the door sensors for the 2 rear doors stay on and run down batteries. You can turn them off in the dash settings. If you don't use them I'd turn them off cause it's same to charge battery in back. When the battery is dead u can upen the back hatch so you have to crawl over seats to get to the small battery on passenger side. And its 6 month back order to get new sensors too. Otherwise it's been great.
Dang that’s good to know. Appreciate you sharing. Sorry it happened though…
Got mine 2 weeks ago so AWESOME
You did real good man real good
No vehicle stacks up all around
Gas mileage, comfort, size, features etc
2023 White AWD 25th AE
Paid 59K OTD delivered to me
Was 500 miles away so had to do the math about picking it up and time off work and they told me I had to get it the day it arrived at the dealership or it would be sold to someone else
About 3k in addons in that price like you
The local toyota dealer it shipped to for pickup offered me 65k to sell it to someone else on pickup day probably for 70k-75k after just like you I called about 50 dealers for 8 months to find an XSE to then get lucky and find this 25AE with no actual markup except for the addons
No regrets at all and I absolutely drive around with a big smile on my face
Most expensive vehicle I have ever purchased but worth every penny Everyone loves it once I show them everything on it and it looks amazing
Everyone loves it and can’t get one
Especially not at the price you paid
You did real good man
I commented before about my excitement when the dealership called us saying they had one of these coming and that we could get it at MSRP. We go to the appointment to value our trade in and to put down the money to reserve it. Surprise surprise, once we get there, the sale guy acts all surprised that the other guy (not there for the appointment) would promise such thing, and said we should still reserve it with their 20% (yes, that's right 20%!!!!!) Markup. Take it or leave it. So, of course we left, angry that they wasted our time with this bait and switch, but lesson learned.
That’s just slimy… leave them multiple 1 star reviews on google. Shame on that dealer for pulling that. I’m sorry. Hope you’re able to get another one secured soon.
I think you got a good price for your minivan. Our dealership here were asking for a $15k marked up almost & $6k installed options.
Thanks man, I’m happy with it! My time is valuable to me… didn’t want to spend countless hour searching and calling to save another $1000. That $15K markup is ludacris… smh
beautiful pups! thx for sharing them with us.
Thank you! Haha I don’t have any choice… they’ll force their way into the video. 😆
I am shopping for a sienna minivan too at Los Angeles area. They have a lot of in transit listed but no one have any available. I found couple dealerships marked up $5000 and added a lot of after market accessory and added the other $2000-3000 more for it. Toyota let go Crazy!
I like it. No SUV is as useful as a minivan for people/family hauling when you have a family of more than 4. The size of SUV you need to have the same level of storage makes the vehicle huge, bad on gas, and more cumbersome to maneuver in parking lots and garages. And the Sienna is the best of the minivans IMHO. So this is a W. No, the cool factor is not there, but that's why you have another vehicle!
Yea, I get it. Nothing is cheap anymore. You have to pay to play. Have a good weekend Untamed 👍🏼
Thanks brother! You do the same!
I got my 25th Anniversary Edition at MSRP. I had to search for dealership in small town 1000 miles away from us and found it.
My family rented one on a trip to Utah last year. My wife who has a Highlander is now debating between the sienna or the grand Highlander lol
That’s a great van. I was lucky enough to get the awd silver 25th anniversary edition with ottoman at msrp. I would love to have the wind chill color but I jumped on it because of the scarcity of this edition. Awesome van though. Congrats. There was a dealership in California that marked theirs up by $12,000. Supposedly most dealerships was only getting one of these in. But who knows.
You did good! A 25th anniversary is a great model and the scarcity of them for what you paid In these times is on par! Bravo for even finding one.
Nice, ( I still have my grey 2004 Sienna AWD limited, 120K miles and everything still works beside the sonar, with snow tires its unstoppable up to tahoe snow trips , but only 18-19mpg on prem)
After 12 months wait and talking to 25+ dealers across CA, I got my Sienna Platinum AWD last week with $6K mark up! The Bay Area dealer marked up $15K and had to negotiate to get it down!! Atleast this dealer was straight didn’t push us for any additional options to buy on top!! Not sure if we over paid but got the color, options we exactly needed, overall happy with the car and enjoying it!!
Congratulations on your new platinum! Happy you were able to get the trim and color you wanted! =] enjoy it!
It’s the right vehicle and they are in demand. Do a 6 year TCO with the 35mpg vs your sequoia and you will feel really good about the decision.
Toyota Sienna XSE 25th anniversary edition all wheel drive v$ 56000
Don't feel bad. I called about 15 dealers in CA. After 5 months of searching, I found 2 dealers that sells them at under 1k over msrp. The rest wants 5k to 15k over msrp. Paying about 50k for an XSE with all the bells and whistles.
Can you let me know which dealer in CA with 1k markup? I’m from CA too and been looking for 4WD
Longo Toyota is MSRP only, but have to wait a while. Long Lexus is the same, but wait is long on all hybrid. I end up buying a Lexus NX hybrid at Crown Lexus at MSRP with no add ons.
@@jml9550 thank you!
my dad is a broker, has sold a couple new siennas. I got my limited awd for $56k which was sticker in 2021. I could sell it now for close to $70k because no one in Canada can get these.
I would sell it if I have an extra car. If not, it makes no sense selling it.
For $1,400 you could of bought them 2 brand new iPad mini and 2 mounts and still be under $1,000. Nevertheless, I love the minivan! 😢 that’s how you know I’m getting old and a dad (29 years old)
Exactly. And iPads are much better qualities than the factory entertainment system.
I agree. I have already passed up 3 Siennas that have the crappy & expensive Entertainment package, as I don't want to pay for it and I don't want it hanging from the ceiling, taking up space and blocking the view.
I got XLE AWD out the door @ $48500 but I had to wait 6 months for my car to be allocated+build+ delivered
Hi can you show me how to order and which dealer?
Here in Honolulu we usually have to order vehicles and wait. RAV4 hybrid & prime as well as Sienna Hybrid can’t be ordered per Toyota corporate. I really would’ve gotten Sienna Hybrid then RAV4 hybrid and lady RAV4 Prime over my Model Y.
You could get a lexus TX or GS for that price. Im changing my mind about sienna due to the ridiculous high price.
They are very nice and high demand vehicles. Thanks for sharing.
Rofl what? These can be found at msrp and below sitting
@@impaul41 where?
SET. Folks posting on lot units weekly.
At this point I’d like to see a little more of the pups on the camera😂
Aw bummer you didn't scoop up that sweet green color - Cypress. Can't believe that 25th only comes in silver or white - wtf is Toyota thinking?
They forced you to spend $2000 on something you may not have needed/wanted? Sounds criminal...I'd tell them to go you know what and go to a different dealership. I'm currently looking to change to a van too for practicality reasons and dealers in MA are low on inventory as well so we'll see if the waiting game pays off :)
Did you pay that much with tax or w/o? I'm on the verge of commiting to this and I really dont feel being suckered. We're looking into a 25th Anniversay Edition as well.
Still not a bad price for the times we live in now !
It’s simple…stop buying above MSRP and dealers will back off.
Exactly. We will receive our 2024 Lexus NX hybrid next month and I told my salesperson I will not pay a dime over MSRP nor add ons. He checked with his manager and ok’d it in writing. They are out there, but you might have to wait.
Would you overpay for a 2014 tundra crew max limited with only 3k miles for $45k. Avondale Toyota has one in Arizona. I’m thinking of getting it
Not $45K but I’d comfortably pay a premium for the mileage.
I paid a 5k markup on top of all the crap they threw in. Which makes me really upset. Honestly I will never buy from that dealer we got our XSE 25AE again or recommend. They honestly are screwing customers by loading accessories and markups. To top it off, im getting the front PPFed and that ceramic coating I paid extra for needs to be removed before I can have the PPF done. Extra $400 after paying for the ceramic coat and Crappy factory partial PPF. Times are tough for family yet toyota and dealers are greedy. Anyways enjoy your sienna. We will try to enjoy ours as well.
Did the dealer forced you? You had a choice. I called 20 Lexus dealers in the whole state of California and I refused to pay MSRP on my wife’s 2024 Lexus NX hybrid and two dealers agreed. If they didn’t, I would just buy her a Mazda CX5 or CX9 which are selling at MSRP in my area.
@@jml9550 I could have waited but I probably wouldn't have gotten a 25th AE sienna. Only 2525 will be built and the dealer basically said if we pass on this car they will go to the next person on their list. We have been waiting on a sienna for almost a year.
@@aktong28 well that’s the choice you made to get the AE and price you were willing to pay. Sure you are entitled to be upset by the decision and the fact that you knew if you didn’t pay it would’ve gone to the next willing buyer, again nobody forced you. I know a co worker who paid $20k over his new corvette when it came out, he knew the markup he has to pay to be the very few in the area and he made the choice. He wasn’t upset but looking back 2 years later he admitted it was stupid. Don’t blame Toyota and the dealer entirely, you chose to participate in this. No dissing you here but we as adult made decisions and should considered consequences.
@@jml9550 yeah it's on me. I know. But not given an option to choose my options and loading up practically every AE with extras is on Toyota. As for the dealer adding unneeded accessories like $70 usb charge cables, ceramic coating for 1k to name a few is a profit making move on them. I made that choice because we needed a van for our family. Don't need you to be a keyboard warrior and make me or anyone else that paid a markup feel upset with their decision. I'm simply giving my take. Don't need to state the obvious that it is our choice. Obviously we made the decision to buy. Im just stating that my feelings on how toyota and the dealer took advantage of the situation that's all. Yes I considered the "consequences" but I wanna exercise my right to voicing my dislike.
@@aktong28 well you stated your distaste on markup and other stuff publicly. Then you should expect other people’s comments as well. Calling me a keyboard warrior does not hurt my feeling nor I care how upset you are. It won’t change the fact that it was entirely on you to willingly participate in the game with both Toyota and the dealership to get the AE. You could have gotten a lower trim version at MSRP which apparently you weren’t willing to take. I will leave it at that.
I have the limited, do you know if i can out the xse bumper and grill on it? I hate the limited one
You can swap bumpers and grill from a xse to any other model. I've seen a platinum with a xse front. Looks pretty nice. The dealer won't do it for you but I'm sure any body shop can.
@@aktong28 thank you so much. Im gonna do it asap
I told any dealer that wanted to force add ons to pound sand.
Give its another 6 months it’ll be 25% discount off!
Just out of curiosity, how much is the new Grand Highlander on your radar? I prefer body on frame trucks and SUV’s but the GH seems like the perfect family hauler. I wouldn’t mind a review of one…they seem really cool if you can get good mpg’s.
I just bought a 2023 toyota highlander xle for 39k. We sold our 2012 sienna, and was looking for another car. I looked online and saw this one dealer offering a few highlanders 5k under msrp, went it test drove 2 of them and finally bought the white one. At least I know that way if I sell it withing a year I can still get my money back.
The best goober on RUclips 😅
Mark Miller toyota is the only Utah dealer that’s trustworthy.
If I could ask, is it just the 25th Anniversary Edition in high demand, or does this apply to all Siennas?
All Siennas… but predominantly XSE and up trim-wise.
Anything hybrid from all brands are in high demand. Since all Sienna's are hybrids, supply was going to be shitty by default.
Xse 25th anniversary is the best model, it has sporty look with ottoman seats
@@panzer_TZ yep. My wife’s 2024 Lexus NX Hybrid took a while. But we were ok with it. And this is MSRP and no add ons.
Seems like XSE and above like what untamed said. But XLEs are in high demand too. Also I love how you asked about sienna models yet some guy chimes in about lexus nx. 🤣 Nobody asked about the demand of Lexus.
Congrats on your car.
Personally, I refuse to pay any markup for any reason. Even if it’s just a $1000 or a $1 markup. Paying markup basically tells them we’re suckers. There is no such thing as market value. There are dealers who offer MSRP prices.
Till people stop over paying for this car, there is no reason for them to stop over charging for it. Toyota used to be known as affordable and reliable. Now they starting to be known as just greedy.
Orrrr Toyota can mandate MSRP deals or better.
When is the backlog catch up will it be this year
I sure hope so…
man toyota needs to get their shit together. how are these people charging these prices for Minivans! plus they're selling to Parents who are already financially struggling trying to raise families. Give us a fucking break. :(
What Inflation And Recession if you can afford $55 or $60 thousand dollars car! Most people buying this car because of big family, a house payments and $60 thousand car payment the numbers doesn’t add up!
You're not a goober, but that is a goober vehicle 😂. Just kidding; with all those kids, you may have to get one of Good Times Van's. Do they still make them???
We sell all our Siennas for 10k over Msrp 😁
People are actually PAYING $10K over?
@@tristanschaper281 for past 2yrs
so around $60 out the door.
Crzy times for sure.
50k bro no way
Who cares. I think we stress too much about saving a nickel. It misses the point. Did you need it? Did you want it? Enjoy.
Did it hurt ?
Haha nope. Especially knowing I could sell it tomorrow for 5K more than what I paid to a dealer since they’re going for more used than new. 😉
First !
Mahh man! 🙌
FWD
As long as there are such stupid people who are willing to pay more than this car is worth, the dealer will fill his pockets full of money at the expense of these people. Stop buying cars for at least one year and you will see their prices fall. but for now there is.demand due to stupid people, prices will be even higher.