10 Flaws: YUUZHAN VONG (Star Wars)
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- We continue our 10 Flaws Strongest Aliens Series by looking at the legendary Yuuzhan Vong from Star Wars.
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Biggest weakness, combat robots. A eventfully exploited weakness, that is a combination of their fanaticism and technophobia, is that they went psychotic at droids and YVH - series battle droids owned them.
Plus their weapons were mostly toxic which had no effect on droids, which seems strange for a race that hates AI and had fought it in their home galaxy. Fanatical anti technologist that have no really effect hand weapons against machine races seems a bit of a oversight.
They're lucky they didn't run into the Cylons.
or the DAoT era men of iron @_@ that would be hell incarnate for them.
Weapons development follows your projected enemy capabilities.
If we fought giant bugs, armies would be armed with flamethrowers, if we fought slugs we would have salt grenades.
When the vong fought robots, they likely had mechanical weapons. Later, over generations, they got rid of their hated machines.
They could not prepare for the next war, because they had nothing to expect but the unexpected, and fanatics are pretty bad at seeing alternatives, ok?
What they could expect was lifeforms, and most importantly, they fought each other.
Real life example: A battleship, tank, whatever, should be able to survive its own main gun in two thirds of cases.
Its OWN gun. Thats what they did. They did not innovate, it was heretic, but they did improve, a bit, something slightly more suitable to win a fight. You know, no changes, but "variations". A lighter stock here, a longer barrel there, larger or smaller clips... you know "personal touches"
So things changed, or "evolved", as the vong would say. But evolution, as always, is not proactive, its reactive. It changes according to environment, not expected threats. So weapon choices, weapon and armor evolution, tactics, all developed to fight yuuzhan vong who favored a certain kind of philosophy.
This made ranged weapons so despised. You cant have a proper duel with guns, and if you do, someone is probably going to die, and soon you have no army.
No paintballs or lasers,its heresy, ok.
So their development was preordained by their circumstances and philosophy. You can even predict the type of weapons used knowing the situation they started from.
Damn right, those YVH droids were bloody incredible asskickers. It's too bad a lot of the Clone Wars era stuff was either lost or ignored though, cause I'm pretty sure the shielded Destroyer Droids would have ripped some Vong to pieces pretty easily as well.
If they ran into the Necrons, Men or Iron, Forerunner sentinels they would get slaughtered
@@eichler721 Imagine a Total Annihilation Core Commander or Planetary Annihilation Commander going against them. Total Annihilation Core Commander uses copies of AI personalities, while Planetary Annihilation uses nothing but drones
firepower kills
Wedge: "We're going to face them with an enemy they've never had the displeasure of fighting. We're going to hit them with the Empire."
Tycho: "They're not going to like the Empire."
―Wedge Antilles and Tycho Celchu[src]
Was that from Dark Journey?
I remember this. Operation: Empreror's Hammer
Here’s some advice for the republic:
NAPALM
Vietnamese: why do I hear boss music?
Riddlie wrong republic.....
ROBOTS
Napalm sticks to xenos sticks to xenos like glue
The Emperor knew the Vong were coming, knew their weaknesses, and developed the weapon systems to counter them. The Death Star was not really against the Rebels, it was against vong homeworlds.
Worldships
then why did they use it on innocent people
@@reptile1687 because Palps only wanted to defend the galaxy if he was in charge
@@robland3253 and control it
Lets have the Tyranids have a go at the Yuuzhan Vong.
That's not even remotely fair. It'd be a total massacre of the Vong
Either the tyranids, or the flood, would absolutely annihilate them. With the vong's technology, there are no worse possible enemies for them to face. ESPECIALLY in the case of the flood; the amount of damage a single flood infection form could do simply by latching onto a worldship...
@@Ariana321 *shudders in revulsion* Yep, they're screwed.
The Vong would be massacred and the Tyranids would grow even stronger.
Jakub Bończak
Ha. They’d be even more fucked.
This is one of the Xenos races that definitely need purging.
Get the flamer. The heavy flamer
They are the purgers, of deadly life killing machines.... They seemed to have gone a lil crazy though
Well spoken brother.
The Yuuzhan Vong - The only time I missed the Death Star.
I think lack the Force is a good thing, Force users can't control those people without the Force!
You can still hit them with rocks or use telekinesis on their equipment, like the thud bugs.
@@KnightsWithoutATable I think the dark side is effective against them as well.
@@JoahTheThread5ive Anything that produces a measurable effect, basically. Mindtricks are out, but force lightning, telekinesis, force choke, all are still good against them.
They are disconnected, not Force-repelling. In latter case, force lightning would cease to be a certain distance away, as the electricity would exist but would not be, "guided" through the Force, and skills like choke would not work at all.
In case of vong, physical manipulation would still work normally. Their minds are invisible to the force, but not non-existent.
Basically normal anti-invisibility tricks would work, so targeted or two way communications dont work, but if something simple, such as fear could be sent in a wave or burst like pattern, it would have, theoretically normal though diminished effect. Assuming of course that such effects are possible and their alien physiology would be affected in same ways, and assuming that emotions are not actually somehow Force based to begin with.
DEATH KORPS OF VONG!
Ribbitgoesthedog Lastnamehereyeah Corran choked one with the force by creating an air tight bubble around one of thier heads as a demonstration to them that the force was real
The New Republic should have used the Defoliator on the Vong
The New Republic are fxxxing losers!
Peter Yim, technically, they didn't have any idea on how to build a Defoliator. Any blueprints for the DDT and it's special shells were destroyed by the Empire after the Reconquest Of The Rim. And they did try to use bio-weapons against the Vong, like a special tree sap from Ithor that Vong armor was genetically allergic to.
@@marinerproductions1315 Doesn't even need *bio* -weapons, They don't have helmets, so gas would be a major threat.
@@marinerproductions1315 So... they wanted to spray the bugs with DDT? Lol.
Not enough is said about the Vong.. Great job
These Xenos had the Tyranids Tech and the religion fuled rampage of the imperium of Man
That's one hell of a combination...
By the emperor it is
how dare you compare the purity of the Emperor's holy imperium with these Xenos
Problem is:
The Nids are pragmatic and have no inhibitions about honour etc.
The Imperium is far superior in ranged combat.
In the ultra-long-term Star Wars RPG I am running, I am planning on making the Yuuzhan Vong the penultimate threat the players will face. This video was very helpful in expanding my functional understanding of these very dangerous but very flawed villains.
The vong whilst being crazy in most regards are as a warrior race something I respect, immensely.
I've honestly always looked at the Vong as a plot-armour protected and unearned threat to the galaxy that literally came out of nowhere to fill a narrative void left by the defeat of the Empire and the writers just came up with something way different so they didn't look like they were reskinning the Empire. A bunch of edgy melee-focused sadists who swing snakes at people and think technology is vile should have been easily destroyed in first contact; the writers however deem that the Vong miraculously had armour and weapons that resisted basically every weapon in the Star Wars galaxy and had them take Coruscant quickly to establish them as a credible threat. Oh, and they're somehow not a part of the force so that nerfs Jedi.
Thing is, it's like how in a zombie series they never show the outbreak; you always end up seeing the zombie apocalypse well after it's overrun civilization. Let's be honest, a handful of mindless monsters would be dealt with relatively quickly, not get so out of hand that the world is overrun by the walking dead.
The main reason the Vong cut a swath through the galaxy so quickly wasn't because they were such better fighters or because their weapons tech worked differently, it was because they were dead set on conquering, where as the New Republic and Imperial Remnant had just finished up a twenty five year long slugging match, not a single faction in the star wars galaxy was ready for a war like that. as far as the not being part of the force thing, yeah, thats kind of weak, they should have thought that through a little better, like they were resistant to it (like the ysalmiri)
Imma say it,
Midichlorians explain why the Vong weren't effected or sensed by the force
If Midichlorians are just mitochondria that make the force, it can be assumed that they might only exist in the star wars galaxy, as Obi Wan said it binds the _Galaxy_ together not the Universe, so it might not be a universal force but just exist in the star wars galaxy meaning that the Vong, who are from a different galaxy and wouldn't have midichlorians, wouldn't be effected by the force. But the whole being abandoned by the force was dumb because I don't think the force would abandon an entire species, one person makes sense, but an entire species is a bit much.
@@marshmellowmoon7990 exactly! The Vong are immune to the Force because they're from another galaxy.
Honestly, the Yuzan Vong were a stab at making an enemy that would be in _Star Wars_ similar to that of both NextGen's Borg and DS9's Jemm'Hadar (particularly the latter).
Yeah, I agree. They‘re just a 40k species invading star wars
That moment when Allen takes you back to your childhood readings and inadvertently makes you realise that Yuuzhan Vongs are really just Space Islam.
How to deal with the Vhong: Recommission the Blaze Troopers. Massive armor, Jetpacks and flamethrowers. A sufficiently hot flame can destroy any organic matter.
A strong specie but their regressive views is their own Achilles heel. I give them a *3*
Exactly this, once you have survived the first attacks and learned about them they are as good as beaten.
Hey after this can you please do a best mech based army in sci-fi. My suggestion is the UN Spacey from SDF Macross.
Earth Sphere Nation Army from Gundam 00 after Season 2 but before the movie.
The flood has joined the chat
Vong: (screaming) please no!!!
Not even gonna mention my guys the Sith Technobeasts at all there? ;p
Wish we had that technology, amazing weapons and maybe it could be used to improve everything on a cellular level
Yuuzhan Vong vs Zurg vs Tyranid vs Aussie wildlife. Place your bets people
i thought the nids were aussie wild life
Tyranids.
None
Shrek would dominate
Tyranids
Aussie
Love these💙
That which does not bend will most surely break. The Yuzhan Vong refused to bend.
They remind me a lot of the glorious Imperium of man from the Warhammer 40K universe
More Vong! Then we eat spicy Porg wings.
I very much doubt that Vong body armor could stop a round from a Bolter. Additionally, their ground forces don't seem to have any tanks or ground transportation. So most other sci-fi factions would have an easy time out maneuvering Vong forces and annihilating them from a safe range.
Of course you disbelieve. Faith in the holy weapons given by the Emperor is mandatory, and all doubt against it, especially based on experience, is heresy punishable by execution.
You ARE still alive, arent you?
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 What? I was clearly stating that Space Marines would massacre Vong Warriors.
@@adambielen8996 So you were. Your belief is laudable and your comment is true.
Will there be videos on the 10 Flaws/ Strengths on Doctor Who's DALEKS as part of the Strongest Aliens Series..? Also, imagine if the Yuuzhan Vong met the Daleks..?
Excellent video/review!👍☯️👍
The yuuzhan vong challenged the galaxy in ways no one thought was possible before.
11: exposed heads and necks. Snipers will tear them apart.
Damn dolphin loving Vongs
The Vong hada belief like the Mass Effect fear of artificial intelligence replacing organic life but....taken to the utmost extreme. Wonder if a bio-technological race like the Yuuzhan Vong will appear some time in a new ME game.
Rebuilding the entire C.I.S droid army/navy would have been a good idea.
For example the new republic/empire would use them in the outer rim, take advantage of the vongs anti-machine frenzy and then the republic/imperial forces would finish off the rest once the droids put the majority of them through the proverbial meat grinder.
But what do you guys think about that idea?
Weren't you meant to split it 50/50 of strengths and weakness like you did in previous videos of the series?
Aka the perfect test subjects for the chaos god nurgle aka perfect army for the flood to infect
Hello Allen. I hope you had a great 4th of July. I love you so much
If I met Thrawn, I'd offer to help stop the Grysk/Vong right away.....
Something interesting about the Doven Basals, the way the NR ended up countering them was by firing extremely rapid, but low power shots spread out over a wide area, so the Dovin Basal had to project a wide, fairly weak field to intercept them, at random a program in the X-wing fire computers would shoot full power bolts at the Vong ships, and the doven basal field would be too weak to catch it, resulting in the Basal exploding. after knocking out all the basals, most vong ships were very, very inferior to XJ5's, with their only saving grace being the heavy armor, as the basals also provided extra propulsion when not blocking enemy fire.
Cherish these guys ever survived the Warhammer 40K universe well there's other dangers in 40K have a nice guys from this universe can survive
I love you Allen
Despite their filthy xenos status, they have the right Imperium mentality on many things
In the Vong religion it is believed that the Goddess of the Shaper cast stole all the knowledge from the almighty God Yun Yuuzhan and passed it down to them. This gave them the belief that knowledge can not be created, only passed down from one to another. As such innovation and imagination in Vong science and tactics is viewed as heresy which is what stops them from advancing any further then were they are.
There lack of Force-sensitivity also made those employing ooglith masquer easily identifiable.
The Yuu Zhang Vong are the White Walkers of Star Wars.
They are the BORG of the Star Wars.
@@ravoniesravenshir3926 the Borg assimilate. The vong flat out kill people. Also, they have more parallels with the White Walkers.
Uh. Don't ya mean the white walkers are the yuuzahn vong if got?
@@baronvonbeans9887 a game of thrones was written in 1996. The vong were not created until 1999.
Sooo... hyped up to a disappointing execution?
The Vong should have been the big baddie for the last SW movies
The Yuuzhan Vong had rigid shaping Protocols which stifled creativity due to new knowledge being seen as “heresy” which apparently violated the edict of Yun Yuuzhan and was punishable by death in most cases.
These would've been a much cooler villain than yhe FO.
Also because their ships are organic, they also age and fixing them is not an easy job I hear.
Yuuzhan Vong ships heal over time
@@Charlie94781 they could also be infected.
@@Charlie94781 They do heal, but they do start to die and get infected in places, and the shapers gotta fix it. It’s a crazy hard task, but I think the oldest one was…. Like Yodas age? In the Galactic Core anyway.
The Yautja or predator
The Zerg from Starcraft
They are beatble, smart and cunning enemy could defit them.
Generation Films. who would win in a fight between the Vong and the Borg?
The borg
The New Republic Series was the first Star Wars books I read, and they're still my favorites.
I realize it would never happen, both because the story has already been told, and it's no longer part of canon, but how awesome would it be to get a TV-series of the Yuuzhan Vong invasion?
I read these books when they came out too. I'm dead if I go up against them. I suck at fighting, so I'm toast.
Excellent video on the frightening Yuuzhan Vong. Even with their technophobic religion, they still score a 4/5.
So the aliens from The Thing could absolutely destroy the entire Vong species? Also ya gotta do the shapeshifters from The Thing sometime
My roommate thought I was watching WH40K lore when this video was playing. This race is dangerous, but the religious zealotry and stagnation makes them defeatable. Dropped into another setting, they would either be on par with the most dangerous races or just another race for humanity to fight against.
Here is a terrifying though: the Borg assimilate the Yuuzhan Vong.
yea in 40k these would barely qualify as minor xenos as they would be so weak relative to everything else in 40k ..... i doubt they would ever make it off their own home planet before being purged or worse.
a decent ork waaaagh alone would be enough to wipe out the Yuuzhan Vong in the SW universe while also kicking the shit out of the galactic natives like the new republic ..... mostly because of crazy shit like red ones go faster being a very literal thing with the orks simply because they believe it to be so.
do a federation vs first order war series!
nah i think it would be hilarious to see how the federation reacts to the Imperium of Man from 40K .... it would like 1 episode short but oh so entertaining to watch. xD
Even with all the flaws and eventual defeat of the Yuuzhan Vong in the EU. The Vong would very easily take over and defeat both the New Republic and First Order in the new canon.
Rey would sneeze too hard and somehow stop them
@@arthurbriand2175 i bet she would unleashed her ultimate mary sue power against these being
Star killer base:YOU FOLL YOU THINK YOU COULD DEFEAT ME!
I’be not read the New Jedi trilogy through I know the basics of the Vong from Wookipedia.
It’s a cool story and I like the fact the Vong was deadly enough to force the New Republic and Empire into an alliance. However, I think the writers tried to hard to sell the bio-technology theme of their culture into every facet of their culture.
Starfighters that fire rocks, it’s just to ridiculous to envisage.
I think they would have been better selling the Vong perhaps as something like Borg from Star Trek or the Strogg from Quake. A bastardised fusion of advanced cyborg machinery over bio-engineered supersoldiers.
It would still be cool to see a similar threat force the First Order and Republic into an alliance.
You misprounced the Vong's name as well as Dovin Basel (according to audiobook pronounciations)
Please do the harvesters from independence day
The Yuuzahn Vongs biggest flaw by far is their predictability. They are heavy on religion. If you know their religious code then you can predict how they will react. You can bait them by insulting their Gods. This is why Jaina was so successful with the ' Trickster' method
"An organization that throws away rational thinking quickly becomes a danger to itself.” seeing this in real life 2022.
When the Xenos hordes come to invade Earth, we will be ready, and Allen shall lead us. What most people don't know is that 'Allen' is merely a pseudonym, an identity assumed by a being that has already guided and protected human kind in various different guises for thousands of years. Come the hour of humanity's greatest need, come the day when he leads us all to glory, he will called by another name. He will be known simply as... the Emperor....
Suddenly the Empire doesn't sound so bad now does it.
The Galactic Empire would have made the Yuuzhan Vong play nice with the Death Stars and Navy along with Lord Vader and Emperor Palpatine using force lightning
The Imperials were the true heroes who tried to defend the galaxy but a legion of rebel terrorists wanted to restore the bureaucratic clusterfuck of the republic and murdered billions of people including the emperor
i have a question for star wars fans out here. what if you developed a cure that would kill midichlorians in your body, would that cut you off ftom the force? if so what would happen to you?
Do the Orks from 40k next!
They should not have destroyed the Death Star.
Also I think the Vongs are some kind of Zerg in the Starwars.
Still the most unsettling aliens; after the 2005 war of the worlds; martians
The DORUK oh, I love (to hate) the martins form war of the worlds. Especially the original ones. They used the bullets and artillery we fired at then. To build more tri pods. But had the same flaw of being stupid aliens and dyeing from basic bacteria. Or perhaps that is humanity advantage, what if we are the only species that can survive a cold or the flue?!
@@joshuadunford3171 actually; it is a *great* mistake to assume a basic cold; they consume blood-and related products; likely a disease that they'll never considered slaughtered them
sounds like a cross the WWII imperial Japanese Army
and Islam
What do you mean
The Yawning Bombs were the worst thing that happened to Star Wars ... until Disney.
How about the Irkens from Invader Zim or the Furons from Destroy All Humans (cause invader aims getting a movie and there's a destroy all humans remake coming out)
Do one on the kaiju
Stargate Wraiths next please
Audible did these dirty
Best part of the series was when, I think, Lando & 3PO?, programmed a whole army of battle droids to talk shit to the Vong in their own language.
Worst part, killing off Chewie in the first book, and having Han go on a galactic bender with a blue Space Kangaroo.
I liked Droma as a character though.
The Vong are ironically a lot like the AdMech.
Zerg VS. Yuuzhan Vong
Must be the vong are from the same place the Doomsday Machine came from.
They look so close to the vorcha from Mass Effect
Flaw #11
They pissed off boba get and every other mandalorian. Yes Mandalore took a beating once the vong figured out the mandalorians had double crossed the but for the damage the vong did they also helped sky rocket the mandalorian economy by causing just craters that led to massive beskar deposits. But boba get and his 100 super commandos are one of the biggest reason the vong lost the war but the Jedi and new republic seemed to forget about that at the end of the war
Vong vs admech
Humanity first!!!
The vong should of studied cloneing and genetic editing
They probably did, some of the creatures they have would almost have to be engineered.
bit of a segway but do the Colonials from Battlestar Galactica count as aliens? because they ain't from Earth LOL. i'd love to see a 10 flaws series on the 12 Colonies of Kobal.
Bring them into SWTOR!!!!
Hi Alan
6.23
Who is there, in the reflection of the screen
8.29
And who is it now?
At least somebody else
I've always had a soft spot for biological technology. It just looks so 'alien'.
I feel that. I was first allured by the concept with the Serpentor storyline from "GI Joe" in the 80's. It made me think differently about things. I recall thinking that John Carpenter's "The Thing" was probably a weapon for relatively cheap, relatively non destructive planet cleaning. Naturally only if the "stuff" had a killswitch.
@@MagnumInnominandum Oh God, yeah. The Thing still makes me lose sleep. I just like how it...challenges our ways of thinking how something can be carried out. For us, we think of machines, but to see a race use basically living things for everything they do just goes to show how different life can be out in space.
I heard a theory how the emperor knew about the vong and that is why he built the death star
every time someone subscribes the space marines get a resupply
Can you do 10 flaws about doom demons
I dont think they have any flaws cuz I think they conquered all of earth in like 10 hours
Unpopular opinion and probably wrong, but the U.E.D. and the Zerg from Starcraft could take them. Yamato gun rush and Zerg rush? Note cough ships or chazarack to stop these things.
Protoss though? Now that’s interesting. Protoss look as if robots in battle and call upon warp signatures and such to build, which dovin basals would handle.
Just make virus bombs and naplam type weapons
Yuuzhang Vong vs. Necrons. Make your guesses.
My name is Allen
Thought that was a vorcha in the thumbnail
like weaker nids but with stagnant tech, still a 4/5 for being able to invade and almost conquer a galaxy
what were the consequences of the vong invasion on star wars galaxy and was that you GF in the reflection of the TV, Rarrr
So they invaded the galaxy because the planets they used to live in were destroyed. Ok, but why didn't they live in the world ships that they were clearly able to make ? (I haven't read the story so maybe there's a reason, but I can't think of any)