Salomon Quest 04 Review After 100 miles/6 months! What happened to the best shoe ever??
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- Опубликовано: 19 дек 2022
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I am pretty disappointed with these guys. Although my shoes have not broken yet, the fact that they are starting to deteriorate after only the first 100 miles is frustrating. These are shoes that should last years, even a decade. I love everything else about them, its such a shame they are no longer durable.
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Thank you for giving a truly unbiased review I almost bought these
I have a pair of quest 2 (the previous version) I have over 1600 kms on them and they are holding up well, apart from the tread almost completely worn away. I also have some quest 4’s same as your ones. 600kms and no wear or issues other than wear you would expect to see after that distance. I’ll be buying another pair when these need replacing.
I totally agree with your assessment
Great video, im a proud owner of 2 pairs of Solomon speed cross 4 . My complaint is the outsole is completely gone after 4 months of use. I have called a asked Solomon to upgrade there outsole from continental to 3M rubber outsole.
Salomon constitutes a part of Amer Sports, owned since 2019 by the Chinese group ANTA Sports with sister brands Wilson, Atomic, Sports Tracker, Suunto, Precor, Arc'teryx. Sad true top brands like Salomon ,Suunto and proud Arc'teryx are now fully owned by Chinese business. Just to let you all know
WOW!
You should read Stealth War, its pretty interesting about china
They are very comfy hiking boots but I can also confirm that they just fail after a few months. I went through 4 pairs in 3 years (they replaced them under warranty).
The 4 version are falling apart big time. The main failure is around the toes with them splitting and a lack of waterproofness.
@@chrisgibson2328 yes, the waterproofness was a big issue and also a reason for at least one return. I really wore out a previous version and loved them but the quality degraded with each new version as it seams...
I have USA-made Salomon for 10 plus years not one problem. Also have Aku made in Italy for 6 or 7 years not one problem a very comfortable boot. Lots of good boots out there. Also the life time boots I own is Merrell wildness made in Italy about 20 + years a go still going strong no problem I would guess the Merrell are pushing close to 1000 miles. I take care of my boots clean after every out condition often
Thanks for the feedback! I wish I could say the same for mine. I don't know where mine are made, is it possible to find salomons made in the USA anymore? I know they used to be but in 2005 they were purchased buy a Chinese company I believe Amer sports. I would buy a new pair of salomons in a second if they were made in the USA.
totally agreed im still have my olds Salomon Quest 4D gtx (2018) they still rock like crazy after Fitz Roy/Cerro Torre/ Torres del Paine and El Bolson trekkings (more than 190km on rough terrain) they dont build this bad boys as they used to.
I recommend try to get the older boots, made in USA/THAILAND/CAMBODIA/VIETNAM are all great just avoid CHINA made
Try the Forces line! I've had pretty good luck with the XA Forces and the Speed Assaults.
Exactly dude! I love Salomons' looks and the way they feel but... Believe it or not, I returned mine yesterday for warranty assessment. I am based in the UK, got the Salomons 11 months ago, it is unbelievable! Same issue about toe cap coming off. Gotta admit tho I used them heavily on various terrains but for that price point, I expected more! Such a shame, because those Quest 4s do feel good and look good but anyways... I switched to Mammut Trovat Guide II today...
It's so sad my favorite hiking shoe went down the drain. the more people I talk to are having the SAME problem. Im bummed, i got mine at REI (USA version of decathlon) in there used section where everything you buy is final. So i got mine for only 120ish but now i cannot return them :(. Im just gonna wear em till they break, which hopefully isnt too soon, but at this rate it could be tomorrow. Thanks so much for the recommendation on the shoes you got! Ill look into them, any particular reason u bought them?
@@Joshr13047 I wanted something more heavy duty and robust, suitable for backpacking, multi day hikes. It seems that people love them. Higher price point, but I think it’s worth it. These boots are heavy duty, more for rocky, wet, mountain terrain. It doesn’t have that flexibility of Salomons unfortunately but definitely has 10x better ruggedness, robustness. Also I like how they look and they feel secure…
@@Joshr13047 by the way I just had a look at your channel. I feel like our gear are very similar haha! My only jackets are Proton LT (for cold high output activities), Nano Air Hoody (for mild weather high output activities) and Nuclei SV (for stationary or emergency jacket at cold weather activities).
Hahaha no way! thanks for the info! I absolutely Love my proton and my nano air. I havent had a chance to get to know my nuclei yet, but its warm as hell and packs down smaller than i expected for such a large warm jacket. pretty much all my gear i found at rei garage sale or at thrift stores. My nano air i found at a throft store and they had it listed for $3.99😂 probably bc the patagonia name on the front was almost gone and there was a small tear. super lucky find!
@@Joshr13047 wow you caught a real good deal there! Nice one dude! I love those jackets too! They will be put on some real test next week actually, climbing Ben Nevis 🙂
Seem great boots so far had the threes too
I've got a pair of Keen Durand II boots that are probably pushing 100 miles and seem to be holding together fairly well.
thanks so much!!
100 miles. That's nothing. I should hope so...
I'm not sure what you've done to yours . I've had a pair of these for two years now and I've put them through hell...800+ miles on them and the only issue I've had is a snapped lace.
Ownership for Solomon has changed to a Chinese owned company, had the older ones and they are amazing, but no more, buyouts need to stop to many companies
Do you recommend going half a size bigger than your normal shoe size or is that not needed with these?
dont buy these the quality sucks
Hey I have a question, how long U think those will last if I use them every day and go hike on weekendes every weekend.
hey i saw your comments and i have one experience to tell you.
I had been living 4 mounths in Tirol and 3 in Sarajevo mountain, their i hike at least 4 times a week ( long hikes at least 2 hours)+ work 5 times a week in garden.
I use one pair of salewa grow gtx and was amazing. The only problem is that the boot is quite heavy and you can use grampons and it makes more hard because this kind of boots has to have one plástico in insole BUT try to research salewa mountain Runner or alp runner. Probably will feet you perfect and dont forget to buy 1 size bigger than usual.
Go with salewa and you are gonna love.
I'm looking into buying a new pair of hiking boots and the Salomon Quest 04 caught my attention. I did a little research on the internet and there are remarkably many reviews with a score of one out of five. Makes me hesitate to buy the Salomons.
They are definitely not as durable as I was thinking but they are still an extremely comfortable hiking boot. Waterproofness does not last. but any shoe gortex is like that, the liner just wears out. When I recommend stuff I generally just say go with what fits you best and is most comfortable. and for sure make sure to try it on first. With shoes its a requirement. definity try before u buy
I just returned my quest 4 to REI after 11 months. Toe cap started delaminating a little after 100 miles or so. Might just buy the same model again and return it if I have issues. I was even considering shoe goo repair. They are very comfortable on any terrain. Not too bulky either. Kinda felt like that at first.
Ultimately I bought these shoes and what a mistake this turned out to be. These shoes are perfect for a bit of rocky terrain around hills, but once the terrain becomes more rugged like the morenes around the K2 in Pakistan... Ow boy :(
The soil of my left shoe was completely wasted after three weeks of trekking. One or two days on morenes was enough to wear down the soil. These Salomons are supposed to be hiking boots for mountains, but can't even handle two days in the mountains... I'm extremely disappointed with them, especially as they are very good shoes in all other aspects: water proof, great support, very comfortable and good traction. But the durability is really, really bad unfortunately.
Salomon boots are not heavy use boots. They feel great, so the design good. IMO, they use materials that don't hold up. Maybe it's insufficient testing but nearly all of these complaints come down to material failure and/or glue failure. LOL - this from someone that is wearing a brand-new pair of Quest 4D Forces 2 GTX in Coyote Brown. I have another pair in earth brown that are 3 months old. So far,so good. FWIW, if you wear them when they're wet and bend/flex them alot when wet they'll develope creases and fold lines - typically around the area between the toe cap and where the lace eyelets start and that's where they begin to fail usually due to adhesive failures.
Oh wow thanks so much!
I've owned the original, quality-made Salomons and I've also owned the new (not improved) version and it's crazy how far they fell!
On my last pair I got approx 20 miles on them and the sole split on the inner part of the right boot so I returned them and ordered some La Sportivas (which have great reviews)!
I have heard that the salmon quest 4 forces are the best ones.
Nice military boots. Might be the best thing it seems for durability and function
You’ll want to get the Forces version of this show. It’s specifically designed for soldiers.
@@Hitithardify Garmont NFS is what I’m rocking now and these are hard to beat… with the right socks your good for anything
There are plenty of European countries where Salomon could make quality boots at a reasonable price. Lowa for instance owns their own large production facility in Slovakia. Hanwag has facilities in Romania and Croatia. Scarpa boots are made in Italy and Romania. Almost all Meindl boots are made in Germany.
Asian manufacture can be very good too with the right quality control and hardware used. Salomon want to do things on the cheap and they're no longer quality boots. Some of the hardware used is cheap. Lowest cost fasteners attached carelessly. The design and finishing isn't robust enough. They feel nice but they wear out too fast and that's because the company prioritises profits over quality. Spend a few more dollars on better boots that can be resoled.
top notch info! thanks so much. i was trying on some scarpas the other day and the lady said they were made in Romania, i was unsure if that meant anything. she assured me it was better than china but thats all i had to go on. I also was reading a reddit thread about scarpas and a guy who worked at a shoe store said he got salomons back a ton and only 1 pair of scarpas in 3 years.
@@Joshr13047 The Eastern European countries make good shoes. Those brands also have European supply chains so they source most of all parts from Europe. It ensures better quality in the finished product.
@@Joshr13047 I think it's important to make a point about fit of some of the European brands, like Scarpa and Hanwag. These brands make great shoes but they tend to be shoes with very technical fits. They can be narrower and lower volume in the toe box than Salomon. You really need to try them on or be willing to order your usual size and say a half size up to see which fits best.
Meindl make the widest boots on average. Their shoes are bloody expensive however. Hanwag make a "wide fit" range and so do Lowa. I find some Scarpa fit like gloves and others are just too narrow or tight in the box. La Sportiva is almost always too narrow. If a shoe doesn't fit then it doesn't matter if it's beautifully made or technically brilliant.
Another point is that some of these brands use polyurethane foam cushioning which is better performing than EVA but needs extra care to avoid hydrolysis damage. Most of the complaints about these brands are from customers who just didn't understand you can't leave a PU sole unit sitting damp in a shoe box. I keep my boots in a rack and make sure they're aired and dry when not in use.
@@sdemosi wow thanks for the info. i definitely did not know any of that! Great information that should have been in the video for sure. I'll add info in the description for people to read your comments. thank your for such good information
@@Joshr13047 long time hiker & boot buyer with wider then average feet, around 13-13.5 US size. Finding great shoes and boots to hike and trek in has not been easy. I learned a lot over the years and bought a lot of boots. Some worked, some didn't and some had disappointing durability. .
If I can help anyone make less mistakes then that's great 😁
Have you considered brands like Keen, Meindl, Lowa, La Sportiva, Salewa, Scarpa?
not yet i have been super busy lately and have not been able to do much research elseware or find store where i can try them on
thank you for the advice
27 miles on them? How would you know that?
got them used from rei re supply. they mark all their used gear with reasons why customer returned. On the solomons it said "used for 27 miles, didn't like fit" or something i honestly don't remember why they returned them but it did say the milage. Thats also why i started researching how many miles shows of this caliber are supposed to be able to go. generally 500-1000 miles is a good shoe.
Werent Salomon made in France?
Yes, another commentor informed me of their history I was completely wrong on this, I am planning to make a follow up video addressing this and also that most well made shoes are not even made in usa. many are made in romania
I agree: my Salomons did not even last 1 year of walks with my dog :(
I have a pair of salmon forces 4D gtx 2's over 2 years wearing them almost everyday .... not a problem !
good to know! maybe its just certain shoes/styles/colors. mass manufacturing is a crazy process and it could be that many of the shoes are unaffected by the issues i described
They started making the quest4 in china.
Why are you recommending Salomon to produce them in the USA again and suggest it would increase quality? It's literally a French company with currently a Finish parent company. If they should make them anywhere, it should be the EU. Would probably be miles ahead of American made quality as well.
lol, give him a break. I know I know…
But? Look up “Whites, Wesco and Nicks” boots. MADE IN AMERICA.
Make these look like Poodle dogs lol.
Put any of your European boots up against a pair of Nicks American-made boots and you lose…. 🇺🇸
Oh, and? Dr. Martens SUUUUUUCK 😂
@@ChrisJones-yu9rz American made products suck, it’s on the level of Chinese made crap.
@@ChrisJones-yu9rz Martens suck indeed, that’s why they are probably so popular in the US, since they are on the same level as US made boots.
Just because something is not made in America means that it is substandard
You're totally right. I was completely wrong and I need to make an update video addressing this. Another commentor informed me that solomons were origionally made in france i believe, or is was a french company. He also informed me that most quality shoes come from romania and have for a long time. So I couldn't agree more, I have also purchased some american made things that have broken quickly.
It is not about China, it is about Adidas which is the owner of Salomon and recently promoted their Terrex brand more and more. Their interest is to make Salomon quality worse...
It's just greed that makes a trusted boot maker start to have boots made abroad with inferior materials, they know the brand will suffer in the long term but they just don't seem to care, I have a pair of those boots(the older model) and the toe is coming away slightly at the sides, have used shoe goo, the glue they use is awful, will be buying something else next time, shame!
A damn shame :(
I don't think the drop in quality happens just because an item is made in China. Cost cutting decisions are made in corporate headquarters, and those measures include material, design and production. If a company is intent in the quality and integrity of its products, it institutes a strict standard that is followed wherever the item is produced. Reputable and honest companies do that. Some American companies are all to happy to shift blame on quality problems to "China" and every "reviewer" is dancing to that tune.
If these boots were to be made in the USA u will have to pay $400 or more
That’s always the issue. What are Americans willing to pay for products made in the USA? There must be some sweet spot, like are Americans willing to pay 20% more, but not 80% more? I assume marketing people know.
you might be right, but they've got to change what they are doing now. i dont know where or how they are made now, but whatever they are doing isnt working. they are the equivalent to a 100$ shoe. i hope salomon does something about it
Well, I really hope these boots are the best. I ordered them a few days ago, before I saw this review.
@@danielhoward755 TBH they are the most comfortable hiking shoe I have ever tried by far, and they work decently well for water proofness. I wouldn't worry too much just take good care of them and hopefully they don't start breaking after 100 miles lol
@@Joshr13047 I didn’t get the GoreTex version. I’m more of a day hiker, so I do hope they last. I don’t mind paying for quality especially for critical items like shoes. I was also impressed that many special forces soldiers (Army Rangers) choose this boot. Anyway, I’ll be another data point for this boot.
Yeah their shit now Merrill have gone the same way
since i go for 20 miles a day for 5 days offtrail i wont be buying these. ill go for asolo
They got greedy