So i revisited this video because it rashly does encapsulate where i an with this series. I think what irks me the most about this series is the Fandom. Because there's this running theme of "pseudo intellectualism" that ppl seem to have with it. Basic storytelling concepts such as foreshadowing, consistent themes and characterization and development (plot and characters) is lacking in this series. I have no idea how the beginning goals of this series structurally corresponds to the shinjuku showdown (which will result in the merger). It seems that this series is more cohesive IF kenjaku is at the helm but the series wants to be a fight merchant. The series lacks direct focus with a protagonist because ID ARGUE Gojo drives the plot THE MOST in the series. I also find myself frustrated with the lack of interesting character interactions because they DON'T ACTUALLY INTERACT IN KEY POINTS IN THE SERIES. (How does gojo feel about nanami death?)(I wonder what gojo is going to do if he trains with nobara)(how does panda feel about yaga and the jjk higher ups [who cares gojo killed them IN FLASHBACK LOL]) THE SERIES doesn't let me get HYPE for these moments because time and time again it just decides to undercut it and NOT DEVELOP IT IN THE STORY. Yeah this hurts man.
As in the video, many things happen just for the sake of happening and create artifically depth. If the creator wanted to stay within that range, then that's what Gege should've done, but he tried to go elsewhere and failed. A critique on the fandom isn't a critique on the series. Even in this comment section I see comments of people purporting head-canons as opposed to what's actually being told in the series.
@solitary2 the purpose of my content was to juxtaposed my grips with the series in relation to my belief on how incongruous they are to common "analysis" content fans make. A bad Fandom (or critique of them) doesn't make a bad series (or warrant a critique of them). If my comment gave you that idea then I apologize for being unclear.
@@DulKyoujiAnime Nah, I understand the comment; it was clear. I think a lot of people take the smallest incantations of themes or "decent writing" and blow it up. However, it's never done in a cohesive way, as you said. Things just happen when they need to happen and what connects them is a string as strong as a strand of hair. Todo came back just for Gojo to come back a chapter later and now everyone has forgotten about Todo. Story sucks which makes the characters suffer.
16:56 People will non-ironically call that good female character writing so long as she’s strong. That is what jjk’s most obnoxious fans come into play, they think of a woman is just merely “strong” she is well written. It is very obnoxious as a female fan of manga/anime.
@@vertexedits1806 Honestly I find it funny people will shit on the female cast of demon slayer but praise JJK. Demon slayer has strong females with various emotional connections to the story and why they fight. No one besides maybe Maki has it.
i mean isn't this the same community that shat on most female characters cause they were so weak and played second fiddle to the MC. So why is this any worse?
I found that the answer for that is because they don't offer anything othen than their fighting ability. Not just them, men too the moment they aren't strong enough would become "bad" because they didn't get out of the box of being something else than a plain old 2D characters. What can we like about these characters other than their strength in this battle shonen? Unironicaly, the moment a character is introduced we wonder if they are strong enough to have an impact in the story, not meeting the requirements meant that they need to have something else going for them else why even are they here as a character? You don't have that feeling for characters like Jynx in Arcane and character that have a compelling story or traits. We just can't bash them because we understand their personality, they are "human". In JJK the only one that got this pass is Yuji. He failed many times but did he get bashed? No, because he's so tragic and it was well portrayed. Subaru from RE Zero too.
JJK fans love the “you just don’t understand bro” defense. Then they use their own head canon to explain what the story means…meanwhile Gege prob didnt even think of it himself
Gotta put bro on mount hatemore now. But as someone who dislikes demon slayer for reasons i wont explain rn i can appreciate someone else not scared to dislike one of the popular anime and have their own opinion.
Demon Slayer has some redeemable qualities to it but its the first anime I seen where it obviously had so much crap thrown in that was meant to be carried-over into games for $$$
Demon Slayer isn't that good to me either! It's just a mid modern shonen anime from my point of view AND IT'S NOT EVEN PRETTY! People dickride for its animation but the 3d animation is trash!!! The water makes me so mad T.T I need japanese animation studios to stop trying to do 3d animation if they can't be bothered to learn how to do it from the skilled and talented people in the US, Canada, France, and Korea! It's a fucking disgrace
The worldbuilding, plot and writing of characters in JJK are merely aesthetics for the main attraction: the fights. That's how I feel about JJK. It's like a mediocre story mode of an amazing arcade side-screen fighting game.
Yeah, that's what I like about jjk fast fight anime without bs backstory in the middle of the fight, and about the story of you think about it, it was very simple story.
@@sakamotoverge3194 Bro JJK has all of that, and this just will make ppl hate yall enough with the comparison. This just means you didn't read the manga
JJK's world building is so bad that it ruins or at least negatively affects the characters and the plot. Maki's achieving he "apparently fake" goal was lacklustre due to having a terrible world building when it came to the Zenin Clan. They had no impact on the story nor on the chatacters. All we got is an edgy narcissist try so hard to convince us that Maki and a terrible life in the clan house. The Clan members were annihilated before we could learn who they were. The sad part is that the most fleshed out clan out of the 3 was the Zenin Clan 😭 Note about Maki's fake goal, It was always made clear that Maki wanted to lead the clan not commit genocide. Only after her fight in the culling game was it told to us that she did actually care about it. This is ridiculous.
@Jaafar_Alkhalifa what a way to misrepresent maki and her goals. She wanted to become the leader to change the clan for her sister. The zenin has always been a plight to her, stopping her from progressing higher in rank and one of the few that wanted for the execution of yuji. The fact is that you didn't read this and now are calling her goals fake cause you didn't "see it enough." She only committed genocide cause her wanting a good place for her sister. The one thing that was holding her was gone. I feel the ppl who criticize JJK sometimes don't even understand it and then blame the fans for liking it as if they themselves are any better.
@@orpheemulemo8053 I'm sorry, isn't this the same clan that shunned her and her sister. This clan has done nothing but be an ache for her and her sister. Plus, when she murked her dad, the rest of the clan wouldn't sit and let that slide. It's good character development cause it showed what she fought for and her detachment from the clan, unlike toji. Just say you didn't understand it cause this obsession with character development is getting old.
@@faith4657 she killed her father which justified then then the elders and rest probably children to Maki was nit mistreated that bad she joined hei and was taught fighting and weapon skills naobito is the one who alowed to join jujutsu high in first place and the Zenin clan itself is a victim of its traditions the point is the Zenin clan wasn't shown to be the climax of evil most Zenin clan members at best don't even care about Maki her reaction didn't seem proportional to the action the clan felt like it could be saved with good leadership Toji broke free from the Zenin clan lived his own life until his wife died and he felt worthless like they told him he was and in the Gojo fight he felt he needed to prove himself Makis character arc and her potential was basically wasted gone after killing them there wasn't any major change happening or anything big to expect from her And I don't think she ever mentioned wanting to be clan leader for mais sake but to prove herself
@orpheemulemo8053 Zenin is straight dookie dooks. She left the clan so she could change it for her sister. That was her main goal for her sister and prove that she could be a higher ranker without their help. But even after going to school, she was held back by said zenin as they stopped her from going higher, one of the few that signed off on yuji's execution. She wasn't treated that bad? So, being a woman in a clan where women aren't allowed to be jujutsu sorcerer's, or even fight, while also not being able to see spirits and have abysmal levels of CE and no technique. Sure, she wasn't treated badly. She never joined hei, and she mastered her skills and became a sorcerer despite them. She wouldn't come back until she wanted to retrieve her weapons. She didn't kill the women or the children, only the men, who were the heads. They would have killed her after she smoked her dad, plus hse was an ally of gojo and plotting his release, the clan was corrupt and with the shit they did to her they had it coming cause to them she would be basically not even human due to her disadvantages. Maki arc was done after that, the hell. Like I said, this obsession with character development. Maki only wanted to be a leader to the clan for her sister she didn't care for their nonsense. Wanting reform, but after her sister was killed, that reason was gone. Her character was the build-up of all the trauma and hate she had for them. What they did to her and her sister. Toji had a family, but he still wanted to be accepted. He wanted to stick up to the jujutsu world. Despite all that, he could have destroyed them for what they did to him. The pain and neglect. He was stuck in the past, Maki, as she said, destroyed that. She was free, it's why she was better than toji cause she wasn't shackled like him. She did it for her sister, like looking at the two of them. It's all there. Don't misconstrue the setting and then call her character wasted when you didn't understand the arc she went through.
I've always wondered what the overall story of JJK is, my biggest issue with it are 1. the Lackluster attempt at worldbuilding 2. the seemingly non-existent plot 3. the repetitive loop its fallen into in its final arc 4. deliberating keeping information from readers to suddenly reveal it for some shock factor or to forces a convenient result.
1. That’s fair tbh 2. Destroy Sukuna by finding all fingers, kenjaku got involved so now they have to worry abt him 3. Fair but it still makes sense 4. Also fair but everything is kind of explained or able for the reader to have seen/learned about earlier in the series
I agree a lot with you! I think my main issue with JJK is that its hype was warranted when Gege cared about fleshing out specific ideas and arcs. But if not the audience is left to the whims of Gege and just like George R Martin this man has no mercy. 😂 He allowed his female characters to flop. This man creates a roster of some capable female characters Nobara, Maki, Mei, fucking Yuki, guess what he renders them useless, as support or puts them at the whims of other male characters even Maki's arc I think was rushed especially with Mai's sacrifice. Because as a female lover of anime/manga this shit gets old. Additionally, I think Gege's greatest strength WAS his breaking of shonen conventions. When Yuji died that got me more hooked, Gojo's imprisonment and death I loved it, the breaking down of Yuji forcing him to challenge his black and white beliefs about "dying a good death" and "helping people". And The fact that the story doesn't revolve around Yuji I did find intriguing because the traditional shonen allows the MC to be OP, to overcome the big bad, to get the girl, to be happy, so I enjoyed watching Gojo, Satoru and Yuta's story. But Gege doesnt care to evolve these breaking of conventions in a meaningful way and there was NO reason to bring Yuta back in Gojo's body if Gojo's desire was to create a group sorcerers who are equally powerful and capable in their own way. Also using continual flashbacks as exposition and justification is lazy writing 101. Why didn't we see Yuta and Miguel training? And I think you hit on an excellent point that Gege underdevelops characters relationships with each other. It did bother me that Gojo never checked in with Yuji, there is no time to see how these deaths impacted Gojo's psyche especially Fuishiguro and that would be effective for the story. Also Kenjaku's death was also a waste because the sheer amount of lore and jjk history, he could have shared in the story and helped build the jk world - died with him. Yuji's parents? More permanency with his connection to Sukuna? The point I disagree with you is not that Gege does not know how to write good characters. He does not have PATIENCE! It is clear as someone who teaches English...the way he rushes these fights and arcs do not build together, but he doesn't give a fuck at this point.
It's not about female cast, it's about the haphazardness of death Maki, Nobara, and Yuki all have massive weight in the story and it's characters. Mei Mei is probably the only character in here that'll be okay no matter what happens. You gotta question what you value in a character if you think otherwise. But I guess it delves into gender politics huh? You say there is no reason to bring Yuta in Gojo's body when the point of this storytelling choice doesn't even have the time to be released (also ignoring Yuta's arc in Sendai Colony about never being able to challenge calamities like Sukuna because of his humanity) I'd like to know what a Yuta/Miguel training arc would've added to the story tbh I'm pretty curious. But I don't understand how you guys are running with the idea that the flashbacks are lazy expo and justification (cause at this point it's just a catchphrase) when they all are actual character moments you guys cried for when Gege skipped to Shinjuku. Those inform the course of action the characters have taken and bring a new light into previous events. None of them explain events that weren't foreshadowed, already seen, or shown to be possible so I really don't get where are you coming from. This way, the story is able to maintain it's hyperfocus in battle (which is deliberate, shows called fucking Sorcery Fight) and has the leeway to conceal and reveal information when it actually matters! Tell me what would you do? Training arc? Karaoke arc? Heian flashback arc? Everybody wants it, but I wonder about the right fit. Can we wonder about the right fit? When an author should display information so readers that already are dissatisfied with the weekly releases won't complain about the answers they asked for? How to write so eloquently that no one ever calls "asspull"? I think the answer is simple, it's always there. Read this shit, volume, from volume. The clearer picture will suddenly appear trust me. You say that Kenjaku died with JJK's lore and history like you already read the complete series... I'm sorry but the fella was already dead when we started to get information about what his son actually is. His plan is still underway and in my opinion, there is no reason to believe that those parts will remain unexplored. Though saying they won't is straight bad faith. But yeah it would've been fire to see Gojo show emotion before what happened during his nap, I agree, But you're grasping for straws, the guy made a joke and proceeded to roast Sukuna and Kenjaku the second he saw that Megumi had been taken over, it's just how he is. You guys hope for your ideal version of the characters then mistake your wishes for criticism, it's a shame
Exactly. the three main characters literally just feel like they're coworkers. And I genuinely felt like Mai was more interesting than maki until gege made it clear as day that she was only a tool..
@Dicencraft I found maki more interesting but to each his own. Don't blame gege for using his characters his own way. As for the trio, I loved their dynamic relationship, and they felt like they had been together for years despite just meeting. Idk about you.
@Dicencraft Yea "his own characters" how he uses them is what he does. You don't like it, and it's OK, but don't blame him for it. He uses them for his story his own way. Especially to characters that aren't always the main focus. 🫥
@@faith4657 you do realize that jjk characters aren’t real right?? They don’t have a mind of their own Every decision they make is from the mind of gege. So if Gege makes a bad decision (imo) for a character why am I not allowed to critique and blame him for it???
@Dicencraft Of course, they aren't real the hell 🤦. But him applying a character one way does not automatically mean what he did for them is somehow evil or bad. Like how yall are trying to make it seem that he wastes his characters when he does the opposite. If you don't like it, just say that. If you want to critique, do it, but don't trash and diss his skills cause yall know this shit ain't easy.
"You don’t develop the journey, you just infodump at the end" This exactly how I been feeling about that manga for a while 😹. But they gonna say you being contrarian for no reason instead of addressing the critique
11:07 Yuki was fumbled so hard. She should be top 3 in terms of importance. She's a special grade, a star plasma vessel, wants to rid the world of curses etc. So much potential.
Lmfao this is he perfect summation man. I sped read the whole series in about 2 n half ish weeks. And it was so gasss for set ups. But in the end it was nothing but fight after fight. And the saddest part is thats all i wanted to see at that point. Anytime i actually found myself reading dialogue or "plot" i ended up just getting bored and having to use my own imagination on what might be the backstories/ interactions with characters. It feels like only if you know/ have read plenty of shounen manga, that you should understand the development and interactions between characters. I literally told my girlfriend that its just a bleach clone for like the first 5 episodes lmfao. And i do love this series. But man. It feels like its meant to have the anime flush out middle plot stuff because gege doesn't wanna write it anymore. Like damn. At that point just write a screen play for the anime with reference panels and let the studio do the work. Cuz THE ANIME IS FIRE (visually at the least), dont get me wrong.
Thank you, my brother. The sukuna vs. gojo fight brought all the problems in this series to my eyes, and they are issues that have existed since the beginning. CE is a half assed power system barely better than chakra. It doesn't even come close to nen or even triggers from world trigger.
@MrBruh-kb7fb CE is the fuel to everything. People have their own domain's within themselves from which their powers are formed for those who have the potential to get them. 80% is talent, while the rest is training and skill. There are reverse curse techniques (RCT) opposite of CE, which is negative energy. RCT is positive energy it is used to heal unlike curse spirits. By applying RCT to your Curse Technique (CT), you can make a reversed of that. But, not many have the ability to gain this skill, or their technique is hard to reverse. The power system is easy. I just have to pay attention. There are other ppl online who can also help you understand more cause this is just grasping the surface. Later, cause you sounded kind of rude 👍.
@@faith4657some techniques literally cannot be reversed, i dont think Gege really thought of that when he kept making some weird ass techniques that make no sense reversed
I keep seeing this defence that supposedly you’ve gotta read closer, think harder etc to grasp the true depth of JJK but it just isn’t there. What’s on the surface has been mostly fun and it’s benefited hugely from a glorious adaptation by MAPPA but it ain’t that deep to the point it’s actually frustrating to think about. No wonder they call it Lobotomy Kaisen
A monkey cannot appreceate Art, jjk is as good as you want it to be and thats why its better than everything Else. Be it the themes, characters, Story symbology, If you only watch it at a surface Level, you will only enjoy it at a surface Level. Youre probably the Type of Person to enjoy demon slayer
I think JJK succeeds at what it wants to do! It's not that damn deep to me tbh. I don't care much for lore or the specifics of powers cuz that's not what I watch this kind of show for. I'm just here for vibes and spectacle! And some fun characters lmao
Bruh wtf are yall talking abt @KyngD469 summed it up perfectly it’s da not that deep fr there’s just hella character conflicts but that doesn’t necessarily mean the plot is as layered as yall think
I don't dislike jjk, but I never fully resonated with the themes it tried to convey. I think part of the reason is that some meaning gets lost in translation, or maybe I'm not familiar enough with Japanese culture to fully get what it's trying to say. The only exception was Nanami. Him quitting his well paying job for something that could actually help others and give him meaning, spoke to me deeply, especially now that I'm experiencing a similar thing. Edit: Ultimately, I do agree with many of your points.
I really get annoyed that rabid fans hate others criticize the show for not exploring its themes beyond “people die”. They tell you it’s not that serious and back pedal. But when you say it’s not that deep writing. Then they start saying it’s a deep story with fleshed out characters. Even though many characters die or get off screened. Gege clearly wants to write a battle shonen but also wants to “look” deep with subverting expectations. But doesn’t replace that lack of expectations with satisfying flesh out of the theme or characters cause it’s cuts itself at the knees every time.
I'm sorry, but fuck Fairy Tail. Mashima had me straight fuming because Natsu would never lose a fight-I get that it's shonen, yes, but plenty of other series use defeat as a lesson or method of grow. It's just not for me.
I’m standing on that shit I’m fumbling 10s over that Fairy Tail leaves so much to be desired and it’s way too fuckin long for that to happen say what you want E.N.D and all that dragon lore could have went so much harder
Nobody copes harder than Battle Shonen fans. Like it's okay to like it just because of the fights but acting like it's some grand master amazing writing that's better than other battle Shonens is pure delusion. It doesn't matter how popular something is, that does not automatically make it great. This video nailed everything wrong with JJK. Bad writing is bad writing and being a battle shonen is no excuse, defending it by saying shallow writing is okay isn't the win you think it is.
@angedenpeacelove_411-00 JJK was popular as a manga before it even got adapted. Clearly, ppl liked it. Mappa just helped enhance that. You can't call everything bad writing cause some things didn't go the way you wanted or he killed someone you wanted more of. Gege isn't the type to go deep into world building his trying to lead a plot with characters.
@@faith4657actually you can call something bad writing if it has: Underdevelopment characters. Plot points that were set up for entire arcs but never went anywhere. Convenient story contrivances that only serve to get rid of certain characters-Sukuna, Gojo, Kenjaku. And a completely lackluster ending that left a lot to be desired.
@SilentGhost91548 And that's where you're wrong. Undeveloped characters? Characters like maki, yuji, megumi, gojo e.t.c were very much developed. Also, not many need to go through arcs of "change" to be good characters. These plot points were touched on again. Only the ones that weren't even important were not. But for some reason, yall wanted to see them despite them not being necessary to the story. How were those plot contrivances? Sukuna was beat after his power was greatly diminished and he was getting jumped, gojo got beat from a sneak attack which he didn't account for after sukuna got the blue prints for WCS, and kenjaku was beat due to the yuta todo combo. That's a lot of saying with no backing. Not everyone would like the ending. Not everyone will be pleased by the same thing. It's why we call it a preference. You don't like it. Maybe someone else will. This isn't bad writing unless there is something wrong in the plot. A lot of ppl say bad writing, but it's really just their opinion on the matter. You didn't like how the villains went sure but it's not bad writing, you wanted to talk about these other stuff more sure but it's not bad writing, you wanted more characters to be developed despite there already being a big potion of that sure but it's not bad writing. As a whole, it's just different tastes and different plots.
@@faith4657 Kenjaku getting beat by a comedy sketch without any explanation of his past and plans is bad writing. There's a whole dialogue when fighting Yuki where he says that Tengen has been lying to them and the story never reveals what it was. Maki and Megumi have no development. They ended as they started. Gojo is pretty much the same thing. Yuji's development is there but is very weak. True, not every character needs to change to be good. The problem is we get next to nothing with their characters beyond fights.
@kevintanza6968 Kenjaku doesn't need 60 pages of backstory to be a good character or a good villain. Aizen didn't get no backstory, and his already a good villain and character. The fact you don't even know his plan isn't an example of "bad writing," which is just based on yall feelings, but simply you not taking the time to read it. Yea, from kenjaku to yuki, this isn't a major plot point, just some shit Kenny said to trip them up. Maki and Megumi do have development. You are lying out your ass now. Maki broke free of her chains, megumi breaking the mold of his mindset and not trying to end himself. These characters break away from things holding them back. Which is part of one of the core themes of the series. They don't need anymore to be good. Yuji also had a very strong arc, his literally the one carrying the themes the most. From the cog mentality to the needs of saving ppl to his discovering and what a curse is. Like you may not like it, but to call it weak is just meh. The fights basically push the story, themes like these are built into the fights, and it's why they are there. It's true that not everyone needs change, but for some reason, ppl can't seem to understand that there are different types of characters ppl are. Some would be static, others dynamic, etc. They ain't all going to be the same.
You completely misunderstood Todo's "we are the exception" speech. In the next chapter when talking to Yuji he says "as long as we live our friends who have passed away will not truly have been defeated! It's not about sins or punishment. The moment we become jujutsu sorcerers, our lives cannot be limited to such misfortunes. Looking for meaning or logic in death can at times defile the memories of those we've lost!" This further shows his mindset isn't one of arrogance, but acceptance and camaradarie. He believes jujutsu sorcerers will never decay, not because of the arrogant belief in yourself required to reach the peak, but because he can carry the memory and will of his fellows on with him, and when it's his time to die someone will carry on his memory and will. Death weighs on Todo, but he has found a (pretty healthy) way to cope with the death that surrounds him in jujutsu society.
And it encompasses the main theme of jjk very well, this fight isnt to get rid of cursed energy or some fairy tale bs like that, where they cure humanity of negativity and suffering. its the management of suffering and the collective impact of indivdual life and death. “Saying whats the point of jjk if there is suffering?” Is like asking “whats the point of life if there is suffering?”
@@TFD.aep2then let me ask you this, is the Yuji vs Mahito fight good because of the theme of parallels or is the theme of parallels good because of the fight between Yuji vs Mahito? 👀
@@TFD.aep2typical best chad Todo w my favourite character for a reason mainly the fight and the vibes are the reasons but I'm glad to learn more about his philosophy too
Not really though. I mean you're right. But he's not wrong either. That quote encapsulates both ideas. If anything he uses that quote to justify his cope. So he's not really misunderstanding Todo, rather he's focusing on the quote itself. And he's using it to praise Todo's character, so idk why get so defensive about it. Like it's still one about arrogance but also acceptance and camaraderie. The quote itself focus on the arrogance part and the follow up is show to how he used it to help him find acceptance.
It’s funny how everything you said in this video aged like a fine wine with the manga ending. JJK is a series that had a lot of potential but fell flat due to Gege not being a good writer when it comes to world building, character development, and sticking to established plot points. Sukuna got his first and last bit of character development in the last couple of pages in the final chapter.
THANK YOUUUUU! Someone speaking sense, my friends are all calling me a hater for basically the same points. Also don’t forget the 99 flavors of “Binding Vow” that gets Expo Dumped in dialogue boxes every 5 seconds!!!
Good video dog. I know it probably took a lot to make this but those of us who aren’t delusional are appreciative that you mentioned the inconsistencies because there are soooo many. You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Also, because almost the entire fandom is toxic I feel like I can’t really say what I want in the comments but good job. I love variety of content on your channel.
hot take incoming: if gege hadn't skipped the month preparation and simply showed us those flashbacks then to foreshadow all of this, then he'd be called a writing genius because if it wouldn't entirely feel like he was just covering up his bullshit with bandaid flashbacks with a "see, this is possible in the hypothetical sense" and no other explanation second hot take: it would have still been kinda shit even if he did do that due to the other plot points he left out, but i think we could have at least been satisfied with it to an extent
A training arc with some questions for the audience (if you're doing the Yuta-Gojo thing, have a scene in the training arc where Yuta and Gojo are going to talk and leave it as a mystery for the big moment) and switch from time to time to Uraume, Kenjaku, and Sukuna so we can flesh out their past. All of the sudden you get a much stronger setting for the final arc and stronger world-building.
I mean as a manga reader I agree, it feels like Gege's writing is not as good as he thinks. He relies on tell-don't-show with so many fighting mechanics and inner workings of jujutsu society. It feels like a guy came up to me and said "So I have this cool idea about demons and spiritual fighting" and then he just spends an hour rambling about the rules of combat and weird theories he hasn't even thought out
This was a fantastic video it actually scared me how you band for band had the same takes that I discuss literally every week with my homeboy. I’m here for the fights ever since Yuki died
Fr i thought after the shibuya arc gege was gonna develop the characters and gojos prison realms location would be unkown to both protagonists and antagonists, thinking it was a stepping stone into a training arc where everyone searched for gojo. The culling games just felt like a watered down version of shibuya tbh. Great video as always!
I’m glad you pointed this out because I noticed this as well. It’s a lot of “he is the strongest because of this” and no showing feats or backstory at all. Nothing but “Telling Instead of Showing”. That I can’t personally see as nothing more than ass pulls
Nah i agree with almost all of your points after watching shibuya arc i have come to conclusion that jjk is arguably the most overhyped anime and manga the manga readers on twitter hyped this arc to oblivion most of them said this is one the best arcs in shonen along with return to shiganshina, marineford, chimera ant, pain arc etc. and after watching the whole the whole anime and almost 240 chapters of manga i think this the biggest insult to shonen and animanga to in general
I like the JJK Series, and I disagree with you saying the series is crap, but I can see some of your points, too it with the Characters pretty much don't have any deaf to them in the series at all and the fact that there's no world Building whatsoever. To me, the only people who are important in the series are Kenjaku, toji, and sukuna. Toji being the one who stops the merger between the star vessel and tangan to have Tangan merge with the entire of japan, the final plan of Kenjaku. Kenjaku Himself, the literal person who planned everything in the series, Itself, such as sakuna's vessel being yujI, sealing gojo away, bringing back ancient Sorcerers from 1000 years ago, merging the entire population of Japan. and other things he did in the middle to achieve his plan. And last sukuna The only person strong enough to achieve it to the very end. JJK Story, to me, is a story that's already planned and told before it was made. And now we're just seeing the conclusion of it. But that's just my opinion😅
It feels like you decided “Jujutsu Kaisen sucks” and then worked backwards from there. A lot of these “criticisms” are you just rephrasing “it’s ass.” Without any actual logic, just hyperbolic statements. An example: Todo was hinted to be back before 259, you even commented on the chapter he was first shown in and you had 0 idea 😭Nobara has had two different statements confirming her status of whether she’s alive or dead too. Edit: I’ll take the L on the Nobara comment.
Funny how you chose the easiest and most contrite and meaningless criticism to call it hyperbolic or stupid instead of any other meaningful criticism he had. He had a lot more criticism for todo’s reintroduction and what it did for the story, how it felt for the character, and how it was treated the chapter after. The Nobara one is also false simply due to how vague the statements are which makes a large portion of the fanbase even entertain the idea that she could come back. and if it did confirm by virtue of literally never seeing her again till the end, what a terrible showing of impact. It was gonna be bad eitherway
@@quin0000 I could’ve chosen even easier ones is the funny part to your response. His criticisms don’t come across as genuine, but as bad faith. When you purposefully leave out information consistently in your “criticism” like he did, it becomes hard to take it seriously. The second he said “If you take out the fighting, the story loses its substance” I knew it was him working backwards from the idea of “this is poorly written.” It’s not to say jjk is perfect. But you can make anything look worse than it is when you leave out critical information a story provides. The story itself addresses some of his points, but he ignores them (or doesn’t see them?)
@@TheMrzachat My point wasn’t that you can make easier points, but that the only point you can make is an easy one to ignore or retort. The only one i can say the story sufficiently address is maki’s situation with mai but it’s still clunky in its execution which is what the video talks about. Other than that, I agree with most of his claims (except the flash without substance thing but that doesn’t negate his criticism). So i’d like for you talk about your specific problems in the video instead of attacking hyperbole like the quote you brought up or meaningless criticism like todo foreshadowing when it wasn’t the only problem he had with todo, and his very real problem of nobara’s lack of explicit status that a majority of the fanbase are confused on.
@@quin0000 Okay, I can mention my problems with another one of his criticisms. I think ultimately, his interpretation of Gojo removes a lot of the nuance that the story actively shows in Gojo's characterization. And with this stuff included, his entire criticism of how Gojo was handled just doesn’t land. Gojo wasn't ever really good at helping people process through emotional trauma. He couldn't help Geto. He can't even really help himself process trauma. and it's why he had Nanami become a mentor for Yuji in the first place. When Yuji is worried about the idea of killing someone, Gojo isn't the one Yuji spends time talking too. When we see Gojo mentoring his students, it's all about mentality in combat and their strength on the field of battle. He doesn't spend time helping them process their emotions. Nanami, Nobara (he conveniently ignored this in her criticism), and Higuruma all fill that role for Yuji. Gojo was never the teacher that really helped his students process their trauma, he just made sure they'd be at their top strength when on the battlefield and facing death. I know Gojo is confident in his abilities, but I think the story shows moments throughout where he doubts himself. A great example of this is his own doubt when Yuji dies for the first time. He feels like he's failed, and he has been humbled. I think if Yuji stays dead there, there is a real chance he snaps and kills the elders then. Sure it isn't in combat, but there are times where Gojo isn't "conceit personified." There are other examples in the story where he does have doubts about his own capabilities, but that was the first one that came to mind. I don't agree at all that Gojo was in control of the fight either. Sukuna was pushing for a specific victory condition, where Gojo was looking simply to outright kill Sukuna. That being said, sukuna is still in the drivers seat for large parts of the fight. Gojo is overcoming hurdles, but we don't see Sukuna having to overcome nearly as many hurdles to stay in the fight. See: Gojo having to literally melt his brain and remake it to stand a chance. Gojo himself even makes comments on the idea that Sukuna isn't going all out, and actively was seeking what Sukuna's true end game plan was. Every big moment of the fight for Gojo is really him reacting to the fact that he's behind, and on the losing end. Gojo is just strong enough that when he starts to figure things out, it could still wind up killing Sukuna. It's why the fight works so well imo, because even though Sukuna is in control one slip up can lead to his death. Had Sukuna not already found his win condition, which he did in 234, then he would've lost to the second hollow purple. Gojo was unfortunately a step to late. By the end of 235 it tells us Gojo won, but ironically we have been shown through the fight that Sukuna was the one who was set up to win. As for Gojo in the afterlife, I think he misunderstands the entire scene.Gojo lost in combat for the first time ever (no, Toji doesn't count.) Having him be confident he still would've won would turn his confidence into arrogance, where instead we see humility.I don't think Gojo being humble in his first defeat is a bad decision, and actually shows more depth than actual contradiction of his character imo. He mentions Nanami's comments about Gojo, and interprets Gojo as 100% accepting of Nanami's comments. The same chapter mentions that you can help a flower bloom and still not understand it. So, Nanami cruelly doesn't fully get Gojo. Even when Nanami was alive, we are shown he doesn't fully understand Gojo, nor does he ever truly intend to understand him (this is a consistent thing in their interactions.) We the reader see Gojo's own actions don't align with Nanami's interpretation of Gojo. Gojo looks upset because Nanami has an incomplete understanding of him, and having his own friends still misunderstand him in death probably does sting.Even with having people he cares about, he feels isolated and not fully understood. It reinforces how Gojo was characterized throughout the story as well. So I really don't see how it contradicts his character, and I think his criticism here leaves out key details to force his point. I also think the story shows us that Gojo did reach Sukuna, and his efforts to empathize with someone who also knows the loneliness of being the strongest do reach. The problem is, Sukuna values strength above all else. He understands what love is, he just views it as something he does not need. That being said, Sukuna tells Gojo that he cleared his skies. We also see Sukuna outright explain what his strategy was from the jump. He does that twice, and he doesn't really do that with anyone else. That, with the combination of Sukuna using Gojo's own hand sign tells us the reader how much Sukuna actually was impacted by Gojo. So, Gojo's efforts weren't in vain, and he can die knowing he did reach Sukuna, and was able to connect with someone who truly understood what it meant to be the strongest, and the loneliness that came with it. To me, it even confirms that Gojo wasn't actually correct in his assessment of not being able to win without 10S. Sukuna I think tells us the reader, and Gojo, that he likely would've lost without 10S. It also is the start of Sukuna realizing that loneliness actually does suck, and him toying with his food after his fight with Gojo in an attempt to help create someone else to now satisfy his own loneliness. Sukuna even kind of addresses this when he's in the Sukuna gauntlet. His understanding of Gojo comes across as only surface level, and ignores what gege shows us under the surface (which is ironic.) After Geto died, Gojo's conceit is really just a mask he puts up to cope with the loneliness he is feeling. I do think there's more nuance to how he's presented and how he changed after hidden inventory that OP doesn't mention in his criticism. And I think that same approach happens when it comes to Gojo after being sealed.
I disagree with pretty much every point he mentions. It feels more like I’m being different than anything. Every nickpick is literally addressed in the show.
Subtextual writing is just gonna beat the absolute shit out of most people. Doesnt help that people read through idealism instead of what the narrative is actually trying to say
I knew it was an exercise in bad faith when he failed to mention parts of the story related to some of his points just to be able to make them Or straight misinform shit
What was contrarian, the only thing that was when near the end he said it had nothing good for it except battles, which is wrong I’d say but he gave reasons why some of the things people really love, such as gojo’s character, was desecrated and treated terribly at his death and after his death. It’s best part is it’s fights, that’s a fact
@@quin0000 "Gojo's character was desecrated and treated terribly" Absolute bullshit.. How do you even believe this horseshit? This bozo was just saying complete falsehoods about Gojo's character one after the other and purposefully misinterpreting stuff💀💀
You pinpointed all the things that turned me off of JJK. The frustration of its potential never being realized. It sometimes surprises me how so many people don’t notice its major flaws.
Personally I watch anime for only 3 reasons, because I grew up on it, to gather some philosophical insight, for entertaining fights. JJK has everything I want out of an anime especially the philosophical insight, particular the egoistic themes which contrasted my upbringing and helped me become more self focused instead of trying to be some sort of savior.
In regards to his doubts of being the strongest 30:01 when he broke up with Geto, he asked him if he was the strongest cuz he’s Satoru or if he’s Satoru cuz he’s the strongest, that was the cursed geto left on him
I LOVE THIS VIDEO AND I LOVE JJK! JJK IS AWESOME but you're spitting in this video ignore the angry jjk fans you are valid in this video. The thing I hate the most about jjk right now is gojos death and gege just ruining him
I think I started to have my doubts after the whole "women in jjk society" thing that was kind of interesting and nuanced got completely sidelined after nobura got iced and meimei started to pull a Cosby, then I noticed how much of a "got and drop" the show was with it's themes and story
@@airplanes_aren.t_real the themes and story didn't drop. And "women in Jujutsu society" thing wasn't gone. Nobara basically destroyed that logic on her.
bruh gotham got mfs like joker , killer croc , mr freeze running around night city you can implant machines into your body and protect yourself what you talking about
Gotham City also has the Bat-Family. Night City has cyberpsychos and police that don’t give af. I’ll take my chances out-running the penguin than a cyborg that can use Flashstep 💀 All NC has is Judy and Panam
@@reduxcity Gotham has joker riddler that one guy in a pig mask that swaps body parts. around you speaking like the bat family always gets there on time Gotham has literally hundreds of side causalities whenever Batman and his villians fight not to mention the universe ending that happens every 10 years in dc where everyone just dies and the universe is rebooted. like joker gas alone is a fate worse than death since you can’t reverse that shii or what about that one guy that swaps peoples body parts around if bane breaks into a bank and joker decides to destroy a library on the same day what do you thinks gonna happen chances are that one of those situations is getting handled by robins and if your not getting night wing who’s not in Gotham or red hood to help you then your cooked cause all the other robins are fodder like even if they get the job done half the civilians are dead or severally mentally and emotionally crippled bro I swear one of the robins got beat by a zesty mf twerking in a pig mask you think he’s beating joker or bane if joker can kill robin and the whole justice league when he wants he sure has hell can kill u. Also Gotham isn’t even dangerous cause of the villians gothams bad cause think of the worst trenches in Mexico with the most active gangs Gotham is 10 times worst u got the mafia and cartel in thesame city a secret cult random supervillain gangs random super villians a large population of armed citizens with no morals in a low income area with a incompetent government not to mention rampant mental illness you’ll be luck to die to a actual villian u might get clipped by a bullet taking a walk at 6:30pm. Hell u could get killed buying groceries. Hell the few months where Gotham got taken over by the Batman who laughs is enough for me to end it all cause when that mf pull up to Gotham you got nowhere to run.
Bruh if you are in the DC universe you could get a superpower from cringing from a toxic opinion on the Internet. You have to be literally trying to not accidentally fall into some super power giving puddle
Ok I had somethings to say but your Gojo moment just made me think you are more angry with what happened to Gojo than most of the stuff here because I thought you of all people would understand the gojo portions more I want to say it is stupid to call mahoraga, Sukuna and what's his face vs Gojo a 3 v1 because at that point anyone using an ability independent of themselves is a cheater. Calling it cheating should start and end with Sukuna using someone's body. While I do agree that the off screen was bad. I wasn't even a weekly reader when that happened but I was still pissed, but saying it doesn't make any sense is dumb. Sukuna came into that fight with the sole purpose of getting through the infinity. That's where all his stats were laid. They were times Gojo even said Sukuna was making roundabout moves and even the narrator herself questions some of Sukuna's move. Sukuna was happy when mahoraga got through the infinity. Gojo's behavior the afterlife also makes sense because again Sukuna bet everything on the ten shadows getting through the infinity and based his fighting around that. Gojo thinking maybe a fully powered Sukuna who was able to figure out how to use mahoraga beating him makes sense logically and character wise. It makes sense character wise because Gojo was never truly as confident as you'd like to think. He didn't even have an identity. Gojo was only ever confident as sukuna when he got enlightened that first time only for it to come crashing down because of Geto's actions and question. And the story has constantly validated Sukuna's mindset as you have said. His behavior with context of hidden inventory clearly tells us some of his behavior is him putting up a front Also I never took Nanami's statement as true. I thought it was meant to show how everyone always saw Gojo as the strongest and that's why the statement pissed me off. Because even in death he wasn't understood. I took Gojo ruffling his hair afterwards to as just Gojo accepting it The Kashimo thing I will give you because you seem to be a weekly reader. I'm not so maybe my input wouldn't matter much but I never saw it as the story hyping him up to beat Sukuna. They never really gave him impressive feats as much as Sukuna in the story and when the fight comes, we see why. Because Kashimo went to Sukuna looking for a teacher more than fight because his life was already completed. He just wanted understanding on the life he lived. This is why Sukuna crushes him that fast, to hammer home his lesson. Sukuna crushed kashimo as easily as Kashimo did the "dirt beneath his feet". This is why I hope if it gets animated and they reach the scene where Sukuna says "you were strong right?" They should have him kill kashimo just as fast I don't really get your point on how the world revolving around Gojo somehow makes it bad. The characters still have their own agency and doing their own thing. Megumi wants to save Gojo but also wants to save his sister. Kenjaku is busy doing his own thing with tengen. Maki is still having problems with her clan. Sukuna is still planning to leave Yuji's body. I don't really know how wanting to save Gojo takes away from all the major events that happened. Although your point of "hell when he died people weren't convinced" just tells me it's mainly Gojo fans (not jjk fans) who are coping with him. I was still invested in the other events where he wasn't there You said something about Yuta in 261 not making sense because "how does it enlighten yuta or make him grow into an individual?" It doesn't. It's creepy and fucked up which I believe was the point which is something the story alludes to Yuta doing when Uro tells him to discard everything to become strong. When I saw it was Yuta my mind just went back to that moment uro tells Yuta that statement. But again I'm not a weekly reader so maybe it was just fresher in my memory than yours. Also Yuta was the one gege showed being worried about Gojo. When he is watching the fight and says he will go to help and when he kills kenjaku and regretting not going to help Gojo. The last point on Gojo about how it invalidates everyone effort using Gojo's body again makes no sense because Sukuna has less chances of coming out of this one than if Gojo came back again for around two if he got fully incarnated Please for the love of God stop saying Gege pulled it out of his ass. Everything being thrown at Sukuna at this moment has been established prior. Even Yuta stealing kenjaku's body is part of his own abilities. If you don't like the choices he is making, fine. But none of what is happening has been an asspull. What made zetsu an asspull was because they was no foreshadowing of his betrayal. No foreshadowing that the otsusuki would be important. Hell no foreshadowing sage of the 6 paths would even be important because it came across like he was some old legendary figure in the past that people recall. The main antagonist who drive the story absolutely were not interested in him beyond what they knew of his abilities so they could use. I'm sick and tired of people talking as if they know what Gege is thinking. Some Gojo idiots thinks he is pissing them off on purpose. While you think he is pulling shit out of his ass when most of what we see them doing is something we know they can do I love Jjk but I agree it has many fautlts and I agree with quite a bit of what you said but saying it has no story has me so confused. I thought you were gonna touch on the themes of dying alone, being a cog and it's themes on love and how gege may have been inconsistent with it or it's just a very basic theme and nothing to write home about but nah, you just jjk has no story I analyse jjk a bit and look through other people's analysis and more often than not, what I arrive at is the same thing they are arriving at. So idk how jjk feels vague. Characters having different "curses" that pushes them forward. Gojo never having an identity. Sukuna's mindset always being validated in different ways. I like you and your content. Will still be subscribed and hoping you do more anime and manga but I vehemently disagree on some of your points
@@888thawkwhy are you replying to everyone who disagrees with the video with half assed comments and assumptions. Instead of being a lazy glazer why not try to come up with your own counter argument.
I agree with you on all points, it feels like people want to have every detail spoon fed rather than look at all the details given. Every writing style is different, I love jjk and see its faults but when it’s literally basically ‘didn’t want to read the story how it’s written’. We’re genuinely not the cultural audience. I was gonna say gege isn’t a bad writer people are just stupid and haven’t read since middle school but it feels like people are reading and trying to get another Naruto or bleach or Dragon ball rather than JJK itself. Every story is told differently but at like at least read it properly before saying ‘story bad’. Like oh no a story has details I don’t see but am told about? An outrage. I see details but am not told them before, must be an asspull. In my personal opinion, Gege wants you to think like a sorcerer and draw the line for yourself because sorcerers have to piece things together as you get them and you’re supposed to be on your toes because nothing is real but somehow everything is. Idk man it just feels like context clues don’t exist anymore, the MOST basic writing tools is casually forgotten. It’s also sort of realistic you’re dropped into everything as it’s happening in certain povs and people pop up with something new and obviously you’re not gonna see megumi having bonding with his sister, with the context it obvious and any missing points can be exposed with being explained
The thing is, while JJK does have a story. Everything in it, or rather everything building to certain points in the story is just shallow and lacking. Gege is good when it comes concepts, but not when it comes to organically building a story and its characters, or should I say he's not very good at executing those things.
I looked at this initially and thought I was not in for a good time. Here I am at the end of the video; I agreed with a majority of the things that were said. It's helped me view JJK in a new light that has added to my love for the series. Though it seems there are series that you alluded to that do JJK's whole thing better. I'm interested in what these mangas or books are, even if some mangas off the top of my head come to mind as series that do what JJK wants to do but better.
the progression of jjk is really funny to me because it feels like watching rice be slow-cooked in chicken broth until it reaches the congee plateau. i dropped jjk pretty early on, but i've always been so curious about how it was going ever since i heard gojo and nobara died! pretty disappointing to see the author pull all punches that could actually leave an impact, but it's cool to hear your thoughts on it all! very fun video
complete nonsense, Demon Slayer's story is unmatched, actually engage with it instead of listening to factually incorrect and incoherent rants on twitter
15:10 It’s because toji is Geges third favourite character after yuta and sukuna so he just tried bringing him back in some way and maki was that character Sukuna is his favourite followed by the isekai protagonist 16:30 Yea she wasn’t dead which actually made it worse imo
While I dont agree with everything that you say, when you mentioned that Geto would have been a much better villain and could have had more emotional impact on the characters as opposed to kenjaku, I definitely agree. However the way Gege utilized kenjaku and geto, IMO is very well.
Bro some of the comments I’m seeing are filled with keyboard warriors right now. Is this video just hate cause I assumed it was when I watched the entire vid
Wrong Bleach (if you read the manga) actually has interesting themes surrounding the heart and adds in the overarching idea of living in a world where everyone (even the higher ups sans 7 of them are constantly being lied to). Jjk is just hype and most characters who feel no real emotions outside of woah badass.
@@mitsurismp3926facts One piece without pirates and government still has fire flashbacks amazing characters and interactions between characters history etc
@@dontayz99 no you don't have to read between the lines for either, the story clearly conveys ideas at a narrative and thematic level effectively enough for the reader to posit deeper messages/metaphors and future events. Juju kaisens issue is that the world building is poor, these things and concepts are present enough for you to be able to call back to them as happening in the story but not rooted strongly in the narrative or themes for you to interpret any kind of message, atleast imo, but this is something alot of other series suffer from nowadays. Well structured stories are diminishing because the entire narrative concept is dedicated to priming for and generating hype. It's big problem for me personally nowadays. You can like jjk and acknowledge it has flaws you are willing to overlook, but in that same breath you have to understand those flaws that are small for you might not be for others. And even further, if you can admit that you are willing to overlook flaws, how can you rate it highly? Not even being specific to you, but how can you think this show checks enough boxes to avoid people thinking it flat out sucks? I like demon slayer and I understand perfectly why some people don't like it but these same people genuinely, whole heartedly like jjk? I don't understand fans now.
@@mitsurismp3926no way your reading the manga and seriously think these characters have no real emotions. What characters in the manga have not shown emotion to you?
This a follow up comment, but the Takaba vs Kenjaku was fire as hell. A underrated character with a broken ability going up against one of the main antagonists and pulling off a win with the aid of a dirty tactic is beautiful! Come on gang… smh
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So i revisited this video because it rashly does encapsulate where i an with this series.
I think what irks me the most about this series is the Fandom. Because there's this running theme of "pseudo intellectualism" that ppl seem to have with it.
Basic storytelling concepts such as foreshadowing, consistent themes and characterization and development (plot and characters) is lacking in this series.
I have no idea how the beginning goals of this series structurally corresponds to the shinjuku showdown (which will result in the merger).
It seems that this series is more cohesive IF kenjaku is at the helm but the series wants to be a fight merchant. The series lacks direct focus with a protagonist because ID ARGUE Gojo drives the plot THE MOST in the series.
I also find myself frustrated with the lack of interesting character interactions because they DON'T ACTUALLY INTERACT IN KEY POINTS IN THE SERIES.
(How does gojo feel about nanami death?)(I wonder what gojo is going to do if he trains with nobara)(how does panda feel about yaga and the jjk higher ups [who cares gojo killed them IN FLASHBACK LOL])
THE SERIES doesn't let me get HYPE for these moments because time and time again it just decides to undercut it and NOT DEVELOP IT IN THE STORY.
Yeah this hurts man.
As in the video, many things happen just for the sake of happening and create artifically depth. If the creator wanted to stay within that range, then that's what Gege should've done, but he tried to go elsewhere and failed. A critique on the fandom isn't a critique on the series. Even in this comment section I see comments of people purporting head-canons as opposed to what's actually being told in the series.
@solitary2 the purpose of my content was to juxtaposed my grips with the series in relation to my belief on how incongruous they are to common "analysis" content fans make.
A bad Fandom (or critique of them) doesn't make a bad series (or warrant a critique of them).
If my comment gave you that idea then I apologize for being unclear.
@@DulKyoujiAnime Nah, I understand the comment; it was clear. I think a lot of people take the smallest incantations of themes or "decent writing" and blow it up. However, it's never done in a cohesive way, as you said. Things just happen when they need to happen and what connects them is a string as strong as a strand of hair. Todo came back just for Gojo to come back a chapter later and now everyone has forgotten about Todo.
Story sucks which makes the characters suffer.
i jus like the fights lol
@@BucketOfShame that's fair.
This aged too well
Even better now 😂
Revisiting this after Nobara's return and man this manga is cooked 😭
Tell me what happened?
Im fine with it honestly
Higuruma came back
@@EliteFourChadDude that's completely stupid,why didn't show up before I mean before her sensei die,before all those guys got several injuries
@@assouapiraterie9635she was in a coma
16:56 People will non-ironically call that good female character writing so long as she’s strong. That is what jjk’s most obnoxious fans come into play, they think of a woman is just merely “strong” she is well written. It is very obnoxious as a female fan of manga/anime.
So true man their fandom ironically thinks jjk has the best female cast in shonen
@@vertexedits1806 Honestly I find it funny people will shit on the female cast of demon slayer but praise JJK. Demon slayer has strong females with various emotional connections to the story and why they fight. No one besides maybe Maki has it.
@@mitsurismp3926 agreed 💯
i mean isn't this the same community that shat on most female characters cause they were so weak and played second fiddle to the MC. So why is this any worse?
I found that the answer for that is because they don't offer anything othen than their fighting ability. Not just them, men too the moment they aren't strong enough would become "bad" because they didn't get out of the box of being something else than a plain old 2D characters. What can we like about these characters other than their strength in this battle shonen? Unironicaly, the moment a character is introduced we wonder if they are strong enough to have an impact in the story, not meeting the requirements meant that they need to have something else going for them else why even are they here as a character?
You don't have that feeling for characters like Jynx in Arcane and character that have a compelling story or traits. We just can't bash them because we understand their personality, they are "human". In JJK the only one that got this pass is Yuji. He failed many times but did he get bashed? No, because he's so tragic and it was well portrayed. Subaru from RE Zero too.
Completely agreed when you said Geto should have been the main villain. The kenjaku reveal was so mid.
JJK fans love the “you just don’t understand bro” defense. Then they use their own head canon to explain what the story means…meanwhile Gege prob didnt even think of it himself
The average AOT-ending defenders in a nutshell
theyll tell you to read between the lines that they made up
THANK YOU!
Dont forget the classic buzzword they love
"Media iliterate"
Omg the theorycrafting these fans use is crazy. Gege got them gaslighting themselves.
Gotta put bro on mount hatemore now.
But as someone who dislikes demon slayer for reasons i wont explain rn i can appreciate someone else not scared to dislike one of the popular anime and have their own opinion.
Not Mt. Hatemore 😭
Demon Slayer has some redeemable qualities to it but its the first anime I seen where it obviously had so much crap thrown in that was meant to be carried-over into games for $$$
@@abstractfacts The manga is actual dogshit. Japan hyped it up so hard
Demon Slayer isn't that good to me either! It's just a mid modern shonen anime from my point of view AND IT'S NOT EVEN PRETTY! People dickride for its animation but the 3d animation is trash!!! The water makes me so mad T.T I need japanese animation studios to stop trying to do 3d animation if they can't be bothered to learn how to do it from the skilled and talented people in the US, Canada, France, and Korea! It's a fucking disgrace
@@unburdenedcatcreature glad your opinion doesn't matter. Amen
The worldbuilding, plot and writing of characters in JJK are merely aesthetics for the main attraction: the fights. That's how I feel about JJK. It's like a mediocre story mode of an amazing arcade side-screen fighting game.
Yeah, that's what I like about jjk fast fight anime without bs backstory in the middle of the fight, and about the story of you think about it, it was very simple story.
@@juliankurniawan7555you're gonna piss so much when you'll read dukuna kaisen
JJK is just Kagurabachi without Themes, Writing and Character interactions.
If you want Peak go read Kagurabachi.
Now that is a based opinion
@@sakamotoverge3194 Bro JJK has all of that, and this just will make ppl hate yall enough with the comparison. This just means you didn't read the manga
JJK's world building is so bad that it ruins or at least negatively affects the characters and the plot.
Maki's achieving he "apparently fake" goal was lacklustre due to having a terrible world building when it came to the Zenin Clan. They had no impact on the story nor on the chatacters. All we got is an edgy narcissist try so hard to convince us that Maki and a terrible life in the clan house. The Clan members were annihilated before we could learn who they were. The sad part is that the most fleshed out clan out of the 3 was the Zenin Clan 😭
Note about Maki's fake goal, It was always made clear that Maki wanted to lead the clan not commit genocide. Only after her fight in the culling game was it told to us that she did actually care about it. This is ridiculous.
@Jaafar_Alkhalifa what a way to misrepresent maki and her goals. She wanted to become the leader to change the clan for her sister. The zenin has always been a plight to her, stopping her from progressing higher in rank and one of the few that wanted for the execution of yuji. The fact is that you didn't read this and now are calling her goals fake cause you didn't "see it enough." She only committed genocide cause her wanting a good place for her sister. The one thing that was holding her was gone. I feel the ppl who criticize JJK sometimes don't even understand it and then blame the fans for liking it as if they themselves are any better.
@@faith4657and her going on a, rampage and killing people that had nothing to do with Mais death is good character development why
@@orpheemulemo8053 I'm sorry, isn't this the same clan that shunned her and her sister. This clan has done nothing but be an ache for her and her sister. Plus, when she murked her dad, the rest of the clan wouldn't sit and let that slide. It's good character development cause it showed what she fought for and her detachment from the clan, unlike toji. Just say you didn't understand it cause this obsession with character development is getting old.
@@faith4657 she killed her father which justified then then the elders and rest probably children to Maki was nit mistreated that bad she joined hei and was taught fighting and weapon skills naobito is the one who alowed to join jujutsu high in first place and the Zenin clan itself is a victim of its traditions the point is the Zenin clan wasn't shown to be the climax of evil most Zenin clan members at best don't even care about Maki her reaction didn't seem proportional to the action the clan felt like it could be saved with good leadership
Toji broke free from the Zenin clan lived his own life until his wife died and he felt worthless like they told him he was and in the Gojo fight he felt he needed to prove himself
Makis character arc and her potential was basically wasted gone after killing them there wasn't any major change happening or anything big to expect from her
And I don't think she ever mentioned wanting to be clan leader for mais sake but to prove herself
@orpheemulemo8053 Zenin is straight dookie dooks. She left the clan so she could change it for her sister. That was her main goal for her sister and prove that she could be a higher ranker without their help. But even after going to school, she was held back by said zenin as they stopped her from going higher, one of the few that signed off on yuji's execution. She wasn't treated that bad? So, being a woman in a clan where women aren't allowed to be jujutsu sorcerer's, or even fight, while also not being able to see spirits and have abysmal levels of CE and no technique. Sure, she wasn't treated badly. She never joined hei, and she mastered her skills and became a sorcerer despite them. She wouldn't come back until she wanted to retrieve her weapons. She didn't kill the women or the children, only the men, who were the heads. They would have killed her after she smoked her dad, plus hse was an ally of gojo and plotting his release, the clan was corrupt and with the shit they did to her they had it coming cause to them she would be basically not even human due to her disadvantages.
Maki arc was done after that, the hell. Like I said, this obsession with character development. Maki only wanted to be a leader to the clan for her sister she didn't care for their nonsense. Wanting reform, but after her sister was killed, that reason was gone. Her character was the build-up of all the trauma and hate she had for them. What they did to her and her sister.
Toji had a family, but he still wanted to be accepted. He wanted to stick up to the jujutsu world. Despite all that, he could have destroyed them for what they did to him. The pain and neglect. He was stuck in the past, Maki, as she said, destroyed that. She was free, it's why she was better than toji cause she wasn't shackled like him. She did it for her sister, like looking at the two of them. It's all there. Don't misconstrue the setting and then call her character wasted when you didn't understand the arc she went through.
I've always wondered what the overall story of JJK is, my biggest issue with it are
1. the Lackluster attempt at worldbuilding
2. the seemingly non-existent plot
3. the repetitive loop its fallen into in its final arc
4. deliberating keeping information from readers to suddenly reveal it for some shock factor or to forces a convenient result.
1. That’s fair tbh
2. Destroy Sukuna by finding all fingers, kenjaku got involved so now they have to worry abt him
3. Fair but it still makes sense
4. Also fair but everything is kind of explained or able for the reader to have seen/learned about earlier in the series
deliberately*
The world building is borderline trash. Reason why I dropped it when first reading it.
@@Spice_Boiiman not at all the last 20 chapters have all been explaining shit in flashbacks
@@patrickguitterrez5844Yes there has been a lot of explaining, but the chapters have had a lot more than just that, so the fuck are you on about?
I agree a lot with you! I think my main issue with JJK is that its hype was warranted when Gege cared about fleshing out specific ideas and arcs. But if not the audience is left to the whims of Gege and just like George R Martin this man has no mercy. 😂
He allowed his female characters to flop. This man creates a roster of some capable female characters Nobara, Maki, Mei, fucking Yuki, guess what he renders them useless, as support
or puts them at the whims of other male characters even Maki's arc I think was rushed especially with Mai's sacrifice. Because as a female lover of anime/manga this shit gets old.
Additionally, I think Gege's greatest strength WAS his breaking of shonen conventions. When Yuji died that got me more hooked, Gojo's imprisonment and death I loved it, the breaking down of Yuji forcing him to challenge his black and white beliefs about "dying a good death" and "helping people". And The fact that the story doesn't revolve around Yuji I did find intriguing because the traditional shonen allows the MC to be OP, to overcome the big bad, to get the girl, to be happy, so I enjoyed watching Gojo, Satoru and Yuta's story. But Gege doesnt care to evolve these breaking of conventions in a meaningful way and there was NO reason to bring Yuta back in Gojo's body if Gojo's desire was to create a group sorcerers who are equally powerful and capable in their own way.
Also using continual flashbacks as exposition and justification is lazy writing 101. Why didn't we see Yuta and Miguel training?
And I think you hit on an excellent point that Gege underdevelops characters relationships with each other. It did bother me that Gojo never checked in with Yuji, there is no time to see how these deaths impacted Gojo's psyche especially Fuishiguro and that would be effective for the story.
Also Kenjaku's death was also a waste because the sheer amount of lore and jjk history, he could have shared in the story and helped build the jk world - died with him. Yuji's parents? More permanency with his connection to Sukuna? The point I disagree with you is not that Gege does not know how to write good characters. He does not have PATIENCE! It is clear as someone who teaches English...the way he rushes these fights and arcs do not build together, but he doesn't give a fuck at this point.
It's not about female cast, it's about the haphazardness of death
Maki, Nobara, and Yuki all have massive weight in the story and it's characters. Mei Mei is probably the only character in here that'll be okay no matter what happens. You gotta question what you value in a character if you think otherwise. But I guess it delves into gender politics huh?
You say there is no reason to bring Yuta in Gojo's body when the point of this storytelling choice doesn't even have the time to be released (also ignoring Yuta's arc in Sendai Colony about never being able to challenge calamities like Sukuna because of his humanity)
I'd like to know what a Yuta/Miguel training arc would've added to the story tbh I'm pretty curious. But I don't understand how you guys are running with the idea that the flashbacks are lazy expo and justification (cause at this point it's just a catchphrase) when they all are actual character moments you guys cried for when Gege skipped to Shinjuku. Those inform the course of action the characters have taken and bring a new light into previous events. None of them explain events that weren't foreshadowed, already seen, or shown to be possible so I really don't get where are you coming from. This way, the story is able to maintain it's hyperfocus in battle (which is deliberate, shows called fucking Sorcery Fight) and has the leeway to conceal and reveal information when it actually matters! Tell me what would you do? Training arc? Karaoke arc? Heian flashback arc? Everybody wants it, but I wonder about the right fit. Can we wonder about the right fit? When an author should display information so readers that already are dissatisfied with the weekly releases won't complain about the answers they asked for? How to write so eloquently that no one ever calls "asspull"? I think the answer is simple, it's always there. Read this shit, volume, from volume. The clearer picture will suddenly appear trust me.
You say that Kenjaku died with JJK's lore and history like you already read the complete series... I'm sorry but the fella was already dead when we started to get information about what his son actually is. His plan is still underway and in my opinion, there is no reason to believe that those parts will remain unexplored. Though saying they won't is straight bad faith.
But yeah it would've been fire to see Gojo show emotion before what happened during his nap, I agree, But you're grasping for straws, the guy made a joke and proceeded to roast Sukuna and Kenjaku the second he saw that Megumi had been taken over, it's just how he is. You guys hope for your ideal version of the characters then mistake your wishes for criticism, it's a shame
@@44hktanytime someone has to write a novel to disagree. It's a wrap.
@888thawk lmfao isnt this video a whole bible about disagreeing with jjk? 😂😂😂
@@44hkt fell asleep halfway thru reading ur paragraph
@@44hkt also confused because the original comment is also a bible sooo
Exactly. the three main characters literally just feel like they're coworkers. And I genuinely felt like Mai was more interesting than maki until gege made it clear as day that she was only a tool..
@Dicencraft I found maki more interesting but to each his own. Don't blame gege for using his characters his own way. As for the trio, I loved their dynamic relationship, and they felt like they had been together for years despite just meeting. Idk about you.
@@faith4657 don’t blame gege for his flawed usage of his own characters got it 👍
@Dicencraft Yea "his own characters" how he uses them is what he does. You don't like it, and it's OK, but don't blame him for it. He uses them for his story his own way. Especially to characters that aren't always the main focus. 🫥
@@faith4657 you do realize that jjk characters aren’t real right??
They don’t have a mind of their own
Every decision they make is from the mind of gege. So if Gege makes a bad decision (imo) for a character why am I not allowed to critique and blame him for it???
@Dicencraft Of course, they aren't real the hell 🤦. But him applying a character one way does not automatically mean what he did for them is somehow evil or bad. Like how yall are trying to make it seem that he wastes his characters when he does the opposite. If you don't like it, just say that. If you want to critique, do it, but don't trash and diss his skills cause yall know this shit ain't easy.
"You don’t develop the journey, you just infodump at the end"
This exactly how I been feeling about that manga for a while 😹. But they gonna say you being contrarian for no reason instead of addressing the critique
11:07 Yuki was fumbled so hard. She should be top 3 in terms of importance. She's a special grade, a star plasma vessel, wants to rid the world of curses etc. So much potential.
Who’s the other 2?
@@yaboiplank6764may be gojo and kenjaku
Yuki is one of the best examples of how Gege fumbles most of his cast. It's actually incredible.
gege is the true potential man. He can cook up all these peak just to remember that hes Gay² writing sukuna kaisen
Lmfao this is he perfect summation man. I sped read the whole series in about 2 n half ish weeks. And it was so gasss for set ups. But in the end it was nothing but fight after fight. And the saddest part is thats all i wanted to see at that point. Anytime i actually found myself reading dialogue or "plot" i ended up just getting bored and having to use my own imagination on what might be the backstories/ interactions with characters. It feels like only if you know/ have read plenty of shounen manga, that you should understand the development and interactions between characters. I literally told my girlfriend that its just a bleach clone for like the first 5 episodes lmfao. And i do love this series. But man. It feels like its meant to have the anime flush out middle plot stuff because gege doesn't wanna write it anymore. Like damn. At that point just write a screen play for the anime with reference panels and let the studio do the work. Cuz THE ANIME IS FIRE (visually at the least), dont get me wrong.
Bro had a vision
Thank you, my brother. The sukuna vs. gojo fight brought all the problems in this series to my eyes, and they are issues that have existed since the beginning.
CE is a half assed power system barely better than chakra. It doesn't even come close to nen or even triggers from world trigger.
@@emptyshogun That sounds like a personal problem founded on not understanding the system.
@@faith4657 explain then if you're so enlightened
@MrBruh-kb7fb CE is the fuel to everything. People have their own domain's within themselves from which their powers are formed for those who have the potential to get them. 80% is talent, while the rest is training and skill. There are reverse curse techniques (RCT) opposite of CE, which is negative energy. RCT is positive energy it is used to heal unlike curse spirits.
By applying RCT to your Curse Technique (CT), you can make a reversed of that. But, not many have the ability to gain this skill, or their technique is hard to reverse. The power system is easy. I just have to pay attention. There are other ppl online who can also help you understand more cause this is just grasping the surface. Later, cause you sounded kind of rude 👍.
Tbh I thought it was the second best powersystem until this arc
@@faith4657some techniques literally cannot be reversed, i dont think Gege really thought of that when he kept making some weird ass techniques that make no sense reversed
This has aged like the best wine
I keep seeing this defence that supposedly you’ve gotta read closer, think harder etc to grasp the true depth of JJK but it just isn’t there. What’s on the surface has been mostly fun and it’s benefited hugely from a glorious adaptation by MAPPA but it ain’t that deep to the point it’s actually frustrating to think about. No wonder they call it Lobotomy Kaisen
They call it lobotomy kaisen because of the memes trolls make on TikTok what are you talking about
Don’t blame a series for your inability to grasp depth. Blame yourself for media illiteracy.
@wwe12153 it really aint that deep mate
@@wwe12153lmao great jjk delusional fan cosplay. You nailed it
@@flowerbloom5782 I am not a jjk fan lmao. I just like making fun of losers who can’t understand subtext.
I just stumbled upon this video today and shit... this aged *VERY* well 😂
People do act like this story is deeper than it is. I'm just here for the boxing and the crash outs.
A monkey cannot appreceate Art, jjk is as good as you want it to be and thats why its better than everything Else. Be it the themes, characters, Story symbology, If you only watch it at a surface Level, you will only enjoy it at a surface Level. Youre probably the Type of Person to enjoy demon slayer
I think JJK succeeds at what it wants to do! It's not that damn deep to me tbh. I don't care much for lore or the specifics of powers cuz that's not what I watch this kind of show for. I'm just here for vibes and spectacle! And some fun characters lmao
Real
Bruh wtf are yall talking abt @KyngD469 summed it up perfectly it’s da not that deep fr there’s just hella character conflicts but that doesn’t necessarily mean the plot is as layered as yall think
It's as deep as you want to dig into it
I don't dislike jjk, but I never fully resonated with the themes it tried to convey. I think part of the reason is that some meaning gets lost in translation, or maybe I'm not familiar enough with Japanese culture to fully get what it's trying to say.
The only exception was Nanami. Him quitting his well paying job for something that could actually help others and give him meaning, spoke to me deeply, especially now that I'm experiencing a similar thing.
Edit: Ultimately, I do agree with many of your points.
Nanami is one of the few well-written characters in the story.
JJK is only for shitposting and Gojo fanart thats it
😂😂 you fng joke bro keep hating
I watched the series before watching your video and its real. The animation of the fight scenes is the only thing carrying the entire show.
I really get annoyed that rabid fans hate others criticize the show for not exploring its themes beyond “people die”. They tell you it’s not that serious and back pedal. But when you say it’s not that deep writing. Then they start saying it’s a deep story with fleshed out characters. Even though many characters die or get off screened.
Gege clearly wants to write a battle shonen but also wants to “look” deep with subverting expectations. But doesn’t replace that lack of expectations with satisfying flesh out of the theme or characters cause it’s cuts itself at the knees every time.
JJK had so much potential...
I'm sorry, but fuck Fairy Tail. Mashima had me straight fuming because Natsu would never lose a fight-I get that it's shonen, yes, but plenty of other series use defeat as a lesson or method of grow. It's just not for me.
I’m standing on that shit I’m fumbling 10s over that Fairy Tail leaves so much to be desired and it’s way too fuckin long for that to happen say what you want E.N.D and all that dragon lore could have went so much harder
The only time he takes a L he loses years off his life. And Learns NOTHING from it.
I prefer the characters like erza, Lucy, and gray in that series. They are interesting when it isn’t about natsu. Even happy’s story was interesting
Nobody copes harder than Battle Shonen fans. Like it's okay to like it just because of the fights but acting like it's some grand master amazing writing that's better than other battle Shonens is pure delusion. It doesn't matter how popular something is, that does not automatically make it great. This video nailed everything wrong with JJK.
Bad writing is bad writing and being a battle shonen is no excuse, defending it by saying shallow writing is okay isn't the win you think it is.
@angedenpeacelove_411-00 JJK was popular as a manga before it even got adapted. Clearly, ppl liked it. Mappa just helped enhance that. You can't call everything bad writing cause some things didn't go the way you wanted or he killed someone you wanted more of. Gege isn't the type to go deep into world building his trying to lead a plot with characters.
@@faith4657actually you can call something bad writing if it has:
Underdevelopment characters.
Plot points that were set up for entire arcs but never went anywhere.
Convenient story contrivances that only serve to get rid of certain characters-Sukuna, Gojo, Kenjaku.
And a completely lackluster ending that left a lot to be desired.
@SilentGhost91548 And that's where you're wrong. Undeveloped characters? Characters like maki, yuji, megumi, gojo e.t.c were very much developed. Also, not many need to go through arcs of "change" to be good characters.
These plot points were touched on again. Only the ones that weren't even important were not. But for some reason, yall wanted to see them despite them not being necessary to the story.
How were those plot contrivances? Sukuna was beat after his power was greatly diminished and he was getting jumped, gojo got beat from a sneak attack which he didn't account for after sukuna got the blue prints for WCS, and kenjaku was beat due to the yuta todo combo. That's a lot of saying with no backing.
Not everyone would like the ending. Not everyone will be pleased by the same thing. It's why we call it a preference. You don't like it. Maybe someone else will. This isn't bad writing unless there is something wrong in the plot. A lot of ppl say bad writing, but it's really just their opinion on the matter. You didn't like how the villains went sure but it's not bad writing, you wanted to talk about these other stuff more sure but it's not bad writing, you wanted more characters to be developed despite there already being a big potion of that sure but it's not bad writing. As a whole, it's just different tastes and different plots.
@@faith4657 Kenjaku getting beat by a comedy sketch without any explanation of his past and plans is bad writing. There's a whole dialogue when fighting Yuki where he says that Tengen has been lying to them and the story never reveals what it was.
Maki and Megumi have no development. They ended as they started. Gojo is pretty much the same thing. Yuji's development is there but is very weak.
True, not every character needs to change to be good. The problem is we get next to nothing with their characters beyond fights.
@kevintanza6968 Kenjaku doesn't need 60 pages of backstory to be a good character or a good villain. Aizen didn't get no backstory, and his already a good villain and character. The fact you don't even know his plan isn't an example of "bad writing," which is just based on yall feelings, but simply you not taking the time to read it. Yea, from kenjaku to yuki, this isn't a major plot point, just some shit Kenny said to trip them up.
Maki and Megumi do have development. You are lying out your ass now. Maki broke free of her chains, megumi breaking the mold of his mindset and not trying to end himself. These characters break away from things holding them back. Which is part of one of the core themes of the series. They don't need anymore to be good. Yuji also had a very strong arc, his literally the one carrying the themes the most. From the cog mentality to the needs of saving ppl to his discovering and what a curse is. Like you may not like it, but to call it weak is just meh.
The fights basically push the story, themes like these are built into the fights, and it's why they are there. It's true that not everyone needs change, but for some reason, ppl can't seem to understand that there are different types of characters ppl are. Some would be static, others dynamic, etc. They ain't all going to be the same.
JJK really fooled me in the first half😂😡
You completely misunderstood Todo's "we are the exception" speech. In the next chapter when talking to Yuji he says "as long as we live our friends who have passed away will not truly have been defeated! It's not about sins or punishment. The moment we become jujutsu sorcerers, our lives cannot be limited to such misfortunes. Looking for meaning or logic in death can at times defile the memories of those we've lost!" This further shows his mindset isn't one of arrogance, but acceptance and camaradarie. He believes jujutsu sorcerers will never decay, not because of the arrogant belief in yourself required to reach the peak, but because he can carry the memory and will of his fellows on with him, and when it's his time to die someone will carry on his memory and will. Death weighs on Todo, but he has found a (pretty healthy) way to cope with the death that surrounds him in jujutsu society.
And it encompasses the main theme of jjk very well, this fight isnt to get rid of cursed energy or some fairy tale bs like that, where they cure humanity of negativity and suffering. its the management of suffering and the collective impact of indivdual life and death. “Saying whats the point of jjk if there is suffering?” Is like asking “whats the point of life if there is suffering?”
@@TFD.aep2then let me ask you this, is the Yuji vs Mahito fight good because of the theme of parallels or is the theme of parallels good because of the fight between Yuji vs Mahito? 👀
@@TFD.aep2typical best chad Todo w my favourite character for a reason mainly the fight and the vibes are the reasons but I'm glad to learn more about his philosophy too
Not really though. I mean you're right. But he's not wrong either. That quote encapsulates both ideas. If anything he uses that quote to justify his cope. So he's not really misunderstanding Todo, rather he's focusing on the quote itself. And he's using it to praise Todo's character, so idk why get so defensive about it. Like it's still one about arrogance but also acceptance and camaraderie. The quote itself focus on the arrogance part and the follow up is show to how he used it to help him find acceptance.
It’s funny how everything you said in this video aged like a fine wine with the manga ending.
JJK is a series that had a lot of potential but fell flat due to Gege not being a good writer when it comes to world building, character development, and sticking to established plot points.
Sukuna got his first and last bit of character development in the last couple of pages in the final chapter.
tell me what manga with good writing... for comparison
@@youtubeexplorer19 ???????????????????
@@brifflings what bruh
@@youtubeexplorer19 Naruto, full metal Alchemist, death note, freiren, AOT, Vinland saga....
@@emptyshogun you said that naruto has good ending?
coming back to this vid after the manga just ended and wow that shit was ASS.
My final Verdict on JJK is a 4/10! Below average Shonen slop!
I always knew it was overrated I'm just glad someone can relate
“Overrated” and “Trash” are two very different things. One piece is overrated, but it’s far from trash
@@jacobmcguire106 Thumbnail is just for clicks... It's a really video tho
@@jacobmcguire106 100%
@@jacobmcguire106 50%
Definitely gonna need this video revamped with the ending of jjk almost here & sukunas death
THANK YOUUUUU! Someone speaking sense, my friends are all calling me a hater for basically the same points.
Also don’t forget the 99 flavors of “Binding Vow” that gets Expo Dumped in dialogue boxes every 5 seconds!!!
ngl u need a followup addressing the hate comments
Good video dog. I know it probably took a lot to make this but those of us who aren’t delusional are appreciative that you mentioned the inconsistencies because there are soooo many. You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Also, because almost the entire fandom is toxic I feel like I can’t really say what I want in the comments but good job. I love variety of content on your channel.
If you drop a mass critique now that video would probably be well over a hour long
hot take incoming: if gege hadn't skipped the month preparation and simply showed us those flashbacks then to foreshadow all of this, then he'd be called a writing genius because if it wouldn't entirely feel like he was just covering up his bullshit with bandaid flashbacks with a "see, this is possible in the hypothetical sense" and no other explanation
second hot take: it would have still been kinda shit even if he did do that due to the other plot points he left out, but i think we could have at least been satisfied with it to an extent
A training arc with some questions for the audience (if you're doing the Yuta-Gojo thing, have a scene in the training arc where Yuta and Gojo are going to talk and leave it as a mystery for the big moment) and switch from time to time to Uraume, Kenjaku, and Sukuna so we can flesh out their past.
All of the sudden you get a much stronger setting for the final arc and stronger world-building.
We better get the reasoning behind that Gotham city/Night City choice.😂
Watching after chapter 269 and man did this manga FALL OFF
Yessir, we locked in 🍿
I mean as a manga reader I agree, it feels like Gege's writing is not as good as he thinks. He relies on tell-don't-show with so many fighting mechanics and inner workings of jujutsu society. It feels like a guy came up to me and said "So I have this cool idea about demons and spiritual fighting" and then he just spends an hour rambling about the rules of combat and weird theories he hasn't even thought out
I'mma miss this Manga so much, so much wasted potential in that story.
This was a fantastic video it actually scared me how you band for band had the same takes that I discuss literally every week with my homeboy. I’m here for the fights ever since Yuki died
I’ve been saying this about a ton of anime and animated movies. Demon Slayer, JJK, Spiderverse story is trash but the animation hard carries them.
I thought i was buggin but yea the story is missing something
The algorithm did not reward this video
The video rewarded itself by being factually correct
'Hell' and using the Birmingham library photo is finna go over too many peoples heads but I gotta give props on that one lmaoooo
Can you explain it?
and using nipsey when he said “see” (C) 😂
@@airplanes_aren.t_real So basically
Where the pic in the video?
Fr i thought after the shibuya arc gege was gonna develop the characters and gojos prison realms location would be unkown to both protagonists and antagonists, thinking it was a stepping stone into a training arc where everyone searched for gojo. The culling games just felt like a watered down version of shibuya tbh. Great video as always!
Great video. This clearly captures the issues i noticed in jjk. It feels hollow. I'll still read the manga cuz it's fun tho.
Akame ga kill with cooler characters and good plot and top tier animation
After chapter 271 I have no words..
gege: im gonna make a character with the ability to not get attacked!
and ill make him hot!
also gege: me no like character
character to strong :(
finally, a breath of fresh air and someone willing to call it for what it is.
The whole series is a big troll
Gege burned the kitchen… the downfall is crazy and even more so now with the latest chapter. “Disney ah ending” was it?
Here come the GeGe glazers...
I’m glad you pointed this out because I noticed this as well. It’s a lot of “he is the strongest because of this” and no showing feats or backstory at all. Nothing but “Telling Instead of Showing”. That I can’t personally see as nothing more than ass pulls
I hate that you are right . Fairy tail better then jjk is a wild take 😂
Well well well, he told the truth
Nah i agree with almost all of your points after watching shibuya arc i have come to conclusion that jjk is arguably the most overhyped anime and manga the manga readers on twitter hyped this arc to oblivion most of them said this is one the best arcs in shonen along with return to shiganshina, marineford, chimera ant, pain arc etc. and after watching the whole the whole anime and almost 240 chapters of manga i think this the biggest insult to shonen and animanga to in general
@@vertexedits1806 what was wrong? Cause how they liked it doesn't take away from it.
I like the JJK Series, and I disagree with you saying the series is crap, but I can see some of your points, too it with the Characters pretty much don't have any deaf to them in the series at all and the fact that there's no world Building whatsoever. To me, the only people who are important in the series are Kenjaku, toji, and sukuna.
Toji being the one who stops the merger between the star vessel and tangan to have Tangan merge with the entire of japan, the final plan of Kenjaku.
Kenjaku Himself, the literal person who planned everything in the series, Itself, such as sakuna's vessel being yujI, sealing gojo away, bringing back ancient Sorcerers from 1000 years ago, merging the entire population of Japan. and other things he did in the middle to achieve his plan.
And last sukuna The only person strong enough to achieve it to the very end.
JJK Story, to me, is a story that's already planned and told before it was made. And now we're just seeing the conclusion of it.
But that's just my opinion😅
5:45 ok so I wasn’t the only one who noticed how they completely threw away this part of the story, which honestly had a massive amount of potential
It feels like you decided “Jujutsu Kaisen sucks” and then worked backwards from there. A lot of these “criticisms” are you just rephrasing “it’s ass.” Without any actual logic, just hyperbolic statements. An example: Todo was hinted to be back before 259, you even commented on the chapter he was first shown in and you had 0 idea 😭Nobara has had two different statements confirming her status of whether she’s alive or dead too.
Edit: I’ll take the L on the Nobara comment.
Funny how you chose the easiest and most contrite and meaningless criticism to call it hyperbolic or stupid instead of any other meaningful criticism he had. He had a lot more criticism for todo’s reintroduction and what it did for the story, how it felt for the character, and how it was treated the chapter after.
The Nobara one is also false simply due to how vague the statements are which makes a large portion of the fanbase even entertain the idea that she could come back. and if it did confirm by virtue of literally never seeing her again till the end, what a terrible showing of impact. It was gonna be bad eitherway
and when I mean impact, i mean how the characters treat it. Very unnatural
@@quin0000 I could’ve chosen even easier ones is the funny part to your response. His criticisms don’t come across as genuine, but as bad faith. When you purposefully leave out information consistently in your “criticism” like he did, it becomes hard to take it seriously.
The second he said “If you take out the fighting, the story loses its substance” I knew it was him working backwards from the idea of “this is poorly written.”
It’s not to say jjk is perfect. But you can make anything look worse than it is when you leave out critical information a story provides. The story itself addresses some of his points, but he ignores them (or doesn’t see them?)
@@TheMrzachat My point wasn’t that you can make easier points, but that the only point you can make is an easy one to ignore or retort. The only one i can say the story sufficiently address is maki’s situation with mai but it’s still clunky in its execution which is what the video talks about. Other than that, I agree with most of his claims (except the flash without substance thing but that doesn’t negate his criticism). So i’d like for you talk about your specific problems in the video instead of attacking hyperbole like the quote you brought up or meaningless criticism like todo foreshadowing when it wasn’t the only problem he had with todo, and his very real problem of nobara’s lack of explicit status that a majority of the fanbase are confused on.
@@quin0000 Okay, I can mention my problems with another one of his criticisms. I think ultimately, his interpretation of Gojo removes a lot of the nuance that the story actively shows in Gojo's characterization. And with this stuff included, his entire criticism of how Gojo was handled just doesn’t land.
Gojo wasn't ever really good at helping people process through emotional trauma. He couldn't help Geto. He can't even really help himself process trauma. and it's why he had Nanami become a mentor for Yuji in the first place. When Yuji is worried about the idea of killing someone, Gojo isn't the one Yuji spends time talking too. When we see Gojo mentoring his students, it's all about mentality in combat and their strength on the field of battle. He doesn't spend time helping them process their emotions. Nanami, Nobara (he conveniently ignored this in her criticism), and Higuruma all fill that role for Yuji. Gojo was never the teacher that really helped his students process their trauma, he just made sure they'd be at their top strength when on the battlefield and facing death.
I know Gojo is confident in his abilities, but I think the story shows moments throughout where he doubts himself. A great example of this is his own doubt when Yuji dies for the first time. He feels like he's failed, and he has been humbled. I think if Yuji stays dead there, there is a real chance he snaps and kills the elders then. Sure it isn't in combat, but there are times where Gojo isn't "conceit personified." There are other examples in the story where he does have doubts about his own capabilities, but that was the first one that came to mind.
I don't agree at all that Gojo was in control of the fight either. Sukuna was pushing for a specific victory condition, where Gojo was looking simply to outright kill Sukuna. That being said, sukuna is still in the drivers seat for large parts of the fight. Gojo is overcoming hurdles, but we don't see Sukuna having to overcome nearly as many hurdles to stay in the fight. See: Gojo having to literally melt his brain and remake it to stand a chance. Gojo himself even makes comments on the idea that Sukuna isn't going all out, and actively was seeking what Sukuna's true end game plan was. Every big moment of the fight for Gojo is really him reacting to the fact that he's behind, and on the losing end. Gojo is just strong enough that when he starts to figure things out, it could still wind up killing Sukuna. It's why the fight works so well imo, because even though Sukuna is in control one slip up can lead to his death. Had Sukuna not already found his win condition, which he did in 234, then he would've lost to the second hollow purple. Gojo was unfortunately a step to late. By the end of 235 it tells us Gojo won, but ironically we have been shown through the fight that Sukuna was the one who was set up to win.
As for Gojo in the afterlife, I think he misunderstands the entire scene.Gojo lost in combat for the first time ever (no, Toji doesn't count.) Having him be confident he still would've won would turn his confidence into arrogance, where instead we see humility.I don't think Gojo being humble in his first defeat is a bad decision, and actually shows more depth than actual contradiction of his character imo. He mentions Nanami's comments about Gojo, and interprets Gojo as 100% accepting of Nanami's comments. The same chapter mentions that you can help a flower bloom and still not understand it. So, Nanami cruelly doesn't fully get Gojo. Even when Nanami was alive, we are shown he doesn't fully understand Gojo, nor does he ever truly intend to understand him (this is a consistent thing in their interactions.) We the reader see Gojo's own actions don't align with Nanami's interpretation of Gojo. Gojo looks upset because Nanami has an incomplete understanding of him, and having his own friends still misunderstand him in death probably does sting.Even with having people he cares about, he feels isolated and not fully understood. It reinforces how Gojo was characterized throughout the story as well. So I really don't see how it contradicts his character, and I think his criticism here leaves out key details to force his point.
I also think the story shows us that Gojo did reach Sukuna, and his efforts to empathize with someone who also knows the loneliness of being the strongest do reach. The problem is, Sukuna values strength above all else. He understands what love is, he just views it as something he does not need. That being said, Sukuna tells Gojo that he cleared his skies. We also see Sukuna outright explain what his strategy was from the jump. He does that twice, and he doesn't really do that with anyone else. That, with the combination of Sukuna using Gojo's own hand sign tells us the reader how much Sukuna actually was impacted by Gojo. So, Gojo's efforts weren't in vain, and he can die knowing he did reach Sukuna, and was able to connect with someone who truly understood what it meant to be the strongest, and the loneliness that came with it. To me, it even confirms that Gojo wasn't actually correct in his assessment of not being able to win without 10S. Sukuna I think tells us the reader, and Gojo, that he likely would've lost without 10S. It also is the start of Sukuna realizing that loneliness actually does suck, and him toying with his food after his fight with Gojo in an attempt to help create someone else to now satisfy his own loneliness. Sukuna even kind of addresses this when he's in the Sukuna gauntlet.
His understanding of Gojo comes across as only surface level, and ignores what gege shows us under the surface (which is ironic.) After Geto died, Gojo's conceit is really just a mask he puts up to cope with the loneliness he is feeling. I do think there's more nuance to how he's presented and how he changed after hidden inventory that OP doesn't mention in his criticism. And I think that same approach happens when it comes to Gojo after being sealed.
I disagree with pretty much every point he mentions. It feels more like I’m being different than anything. Every nickpick is literally addressed in the show.
Yeah bro subtextual writing beating the fuck outta these people bro missed😭
Subtextual writing is just gonna beat the absolute shit out of most people. Doesnt help that people read through idealism instead of what the narrative is actually trying to say
Yeah, a lot of his “critiques” are really forced and are shallower than how he views Gege’s writing.
I knew it was an exercise in bad faith when he failed to mention parts of the story related to some of his points just to be able to make them
Or straight misinform shit
he didn't explain some points well but he brought up a lot of good points.
I see bro is trying to attract a very specific type of audience with this contrarian bs.
You're hurt. Change them panties.
Legit😂
What was contrarian, the only thing that was when near the end he said it had nothing good for it except battles, which is wrong I’d say but he gave reasons why some of the things people really love, such as gojo’s character, was desecrated and treated terribly at his death and after his death.
It’s best part is it’s fights, that’s a fact
@@quin0000 "Gojo's character was desecrated and treated terribly" Absolute bullshit.. How do you even believe this horseshit? This bozo was just saying complete falsehoods about Gojo's character one after the other and purposefully misinterpreting stuff💀💀
Fanboys be fanboying 😂
you're honestly right
I’m right? You might be right. You’re so right!
another one courageous enough to say what needs to be said
😮🙏🏿🥲I will wear this sub wit honor 🐐 Great video bro
..... Gojo even hollow purple himself😂
Squad 7 and Team Urameshi pictures are 1:1 peak descriptions.
Might fuck around and sub after that one.
You pinpointed all the things that turned me off of JJK. The frustration of its potential never being realized. It sometimes surprises me how so many people don’t notice its major flaws.
Personally I watch anime for only 3 reasons, because I grew up on it, to gather some philosophical insight, for entertaining fights. JJK has everything I want out of an anime especially the philosophical insight, particular the egoistic themes which contrasted my upbringing and helped me become more self focused instead of trying to be some sort of savior.
Uh oh so this is what you meant by pissing people off🤣 aweee snap let’s get it!
1:20 secs in and i already knew this brother had a point. Let’s see how i feel at the end of the 45 minute vid.
The JJK vomparison to Hitman Holla was FOUL.
Does that make Gojo Hitman lil brother?? 😂😂
Yuji: My Sensei just got out the box
Gojo: And n!gga don’t make me go back!
@@reduxcity 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
is it licht and schaten playing in the back or am i tripping?
In regards to his doubts of being the strongest 30:01 when he broke up with Geto, he asked him if he was the strongest cuz he’s Satoru or if he’s Satoru cuz he’s the strongest, that was the cursed geto left on him
I LOVE THIS VIDEO AND I LOVE JJK! JJK IS AWESOME but you're spitting in this video ignore the angry jjk fans you are valid in this video. The thing I hate the most about jjk right now is gojos death and gege just ruining him
He’s false about 20 things in this video and literally misunderstood a lot of the story elements this whole video is blatant misinformation
These fanboys be crying cuz their feelings hurt 😂
I think I started to have my doubts after the whole "women in jjk society" thing that was kind of interesting and nuanced got completely sidelined after nobura got iced and meimei started to pull a Cosby, then I noticed how much of a "got and drop" the show was with it's themes and story
@@airplanes_aren.t_real the themes and story didn't drop. And "women in Jujutsu society" thing wasn't gone. Nobara basically destroyed that logic on her.
bruh gotham got mfs like joker , killer croc , mr freeze running around
night city you can implant machines into your body and protect yourself
what you talking about
Gotham City also has the Bat-Family. Night City has cyberpsychos and police that don’t give af. I’ll take my chances out-running the penguin than a cyborg that can use Flashstep 💀
All NC has is Judy and Panam
😭you're not V so those implants aint nothing against a cyber psycho with a military grade sandevistan or any of gangs in nc
Trust me you don't need cyberpsychos to make a good case for why Night City is worse than Gotham
@@reduxcity Gotham has joker riddler that one guy in a pig mask that swaps body parts. around you speaking like the bat family always gets there on time Gotham has literally hundreds of side causalities whenever Batman and his villians fight not to mention the universe ending that happens every 10 years in dc where everyone just dies and the universe is rebooted. like joker gas alone is a fate worse than death since you can’t reverse that shii or what about that one guy that swaps peoples body parts around if bane breaks into a bank and joker decides to destroy a library on the same day what do you thinks gonna happen chances are that one of those situations is getting handled by robins and if your not getting night wing who’s not in Gotham or red hood to help you then your cooked cause all the other robins are fodder like even if they get the job done half the civilians are dead or severally mentally and emotionally crippled bro I swear one of the robins got beat by a zesty mf twerking in a pig mask you think he’s beating joker or bane if joker can kill robin and the whole justice league when he wants he sure has hell can kill u. Also Gotham isn’t even dangerous cause of the villians gothams bad cause think of the worst trenches in Mexico with the most active gangs Gotham is 10 times worst u got the mafia and cartel in thesame city a secret cult random supervillain gangs random super villians a large population of armed citizens with no morals in a low income area with a incompetent government not to mention rampant mental illness you’ll be luck to die to a actual villian u might get clipped by a bullet taking a walk at 6:30pm. Hell u could get killed buying groceries. Hell the few months where Gotham got taken over by the Batman who laughs is enough for me to end it all cause when that mf pull up to Gotham you got nowhere to run.
Bruh if you are in the DC universe you could get a superpower from cringing from a toxic opinion on the Internet. You have to be literally trying to not accidentally fall into some super power giving puddle
DOES THIS DUDE KNOWS WELCOME TO THE NHK? I really thought it was unknown
Thanks for this. It's been nigh impossible to have an objective discussion with JJK fans about this series' numerous failings.
Ok I had somethings to say but your Gojo moment just made me think you are more angry with what happened to Gojo than most of the stuff here because I thought you of all people would understand the gojo portions more
I want to say it is stupid to call mahoraga, Sukuna and what's his face vs Gojo a 3 v1 because at that point anyone using an ability independent of themselves is a cheater. Calling it cheating should start and end with Sukuna using someone's body.
While I do agree that the off screen was bad. I wasn't even a weekly reader when that happened but I was still pissed, but saying it doesn't make any sense is dumb. Sukuna came into that fight with the sole purpose of getting through the infinity. That's where all his stats were laid. They were times Gojo even said Sukuna was making roundabout moves and even the narrator herself questions some of Sukuna's move. Sukuna was happy when mahoraga got through the infinity.
Gojo's behavior the afterlife also makes sense because again Sukuna bet everything on the ten shadows getting through the infinity and based his fighting around that. Gojo thinking maybe a fully powered Sukuna who was able to figure out how to use mahoraga beating him makes sense logically and character wise. It makes sense character wise because Gojo was never truly as confident as you'd like to think. He didn't even have an identity. Gojo was only ever confident as sukuna when he got enlightened that first time only for it to come crashing down because of Geto's actions and question. And the story has constantly validated Sukuna's mindset as you have said. His behavior with context of hidden inventory clearly tells us some of his behavior is him putting up a front
Also I never took Nanami's statement as true. I thought it was meant to show how everyone always saw Gojo as the strongest and that's why the statement pissed me off. Because even in death he wasn't understood. I took Gojo ruffling his hair afterwards to as just Gojo accepting it
The Kashimo thing I will give you because you seem to be a weekly reader. I'm not so maybe my input wouldn't matter much but I never saw it as the story hyping him up to beat Sukuna. They never really gave him impressive feats as much as Sukuna in the story and when the fight comes, we see why. Because Kashimo went to Sukuna looking for a teacher more than fight because his life was already completed. He just wanted understanding on the life he lived. This is why Sukuna crushes him that fast, to hammer home his lesson. Sukuna crushed kashimo as easily as Kashimo did the "dirt beneath his feet". This is why I hope if it gets animated and they reach the scene where Sukuna says "you were strong right?" They should have him kill kashimo just as fast
I don't really get your point on how the world revolving around Gojo somehow makes it bad. The characters still have their own agency and doing their own thing. Megumi wants to save Gojo but also wants to save his sister. Kenjaku is busy doing his own thing with tengen. Maki is still having problems with her clan. Sukuna is still planning to leave Yuji's body. I don't really know how wanting to save Gojo takes away from all the major events that happened. Although your point of "hell when he died people weren't convinced" just tells me it's mainly Gojo fans (not jjk fans) who are coping with him. I was still invested in the other events where he wasn't there
You said something about Yuta in 261 not making sense because "how does it enlighten yuta or make him grow into an individual?" It doesn't. It's creepy and fucked up which I believe was the point which is something the story alludes to Yuta doing when Uro tells him to discard everything to become strong. When I saw it was Yuta my mind just went back to that moment uro tells Yuta that statement. But again I'm not a weekly reader so maybe it was just fresher in my memory than yours. Also Yuta was the one gege showed being worried about Gojo. When he is watching the fight and says he will go to help and when he kills kenjaku and regretting not going to help Gojo.
The last point on Gojo about how it invalidates everyone effort using Gojo's body again makes no sense because Sukuna has less chances of coming out of this one than if Gojo came back again for around two if he got fully incarnated
Please for the love of God stop saying Gege pulled it out of his ass. Everything being thrown at Sukuna at this moment has been established prior. Even Yuta stealing kenjaku's body is part of his own abilities. If you don't like the choices he is making, fine. But none of what is happening has been an asspull. What made zetsu an asspull was because they was no foreshadowing of his betrayal. No foreshadowing that the otsusuki would be important. Hell no foreshadowing sage of the 6 paths would even be important because it came across like he was some old legendary figure in the past that people recall. The main antagonist who drive the story absolutely were not interested in him beyond what they knew of his abilities so they could use. I'm sick and tired of people talking as if they know what Gege is thinking. Some Gojo idiots thinks he is pissing them off on purpose. While you think he is pulling shit out of his ass when most of what we see them doing is something we know they can do
I love Jjk but I agree it has many fautlts and I agree with quite a bit of what you said but saying it has no story has me so confused.
I thought you were gonna touch on the themes of dying alone, being a cog and it's themes on love and how gege may have been inconsistent with it or it's just a very basic theme and nothing to write home about but nah, you just jjk has no story
I analyse jjk a bit and look through other people's analysis and more often than not, what I arrive at is the same thing they are arriving at. So idk how jjk feels vague. Characters having different "curses" that pushes them forward. Gojo never having an identity. Sukuna's mindset always being validated in different ways.
I like you and your content. Will still be subscribed and hoping you do more anime and manga but I vehemently disagree on some of your points
Emotional
@@888thawkyet you the one replying to every person that defends it without making any points of your own lol
@@888thawkwhy are you replying to everyone who disagrees with the video with half assed comments and assumptions. Instead of being a lazy glazer why not try to come up with your own counter argument.
I agree with you on all points, it feels like people want to have every detail spoon fed rather than look at all the details given. Every writing style is different, I love jjk and see its faults but when it’s literally basically ‘didn’t want to read the story how it’s written’. We’re genuinely not the cultural audience. I was gonna say gege isn’t a bad writer people are just stupid and haven’t read since middle school but it feels like people are reading and trying to get another Naruto or bleach or Dragon ball rather than JJK itself. Every story is told differently but at like at least read it properly before saying ‘story bad’. Like oh no a story has details I don’t see but am told about? An outrage. I see details but am not told them before, must be an asspull. In my personal opinion, Gege wants you to think like a sorcerer and draw the line for yourself because sorcerers have to piece things together as you get them and you’re supposed to be on your toes because nothing is real but somehow everything is. Idk man it just feels like context clues don’t exist anymore, the MOST basic writing tools is casually forgotten. It’s also sort of realistic you’re dropped into everything as it’s happening in certain povs and people pop up with something new and obviously you’re not gonna see megumi having bonding with his sister, with the context it obvious and any missing points can be exposed with being explained
The thing is, while JJK does have a story. Everything in it, or rather everything building to certain points in the story is just shallow and lacking. Gege is good when it comes concepts, but not when it comes to organically building a story and its characters, or should I say he's not very good at executing those things.
I looked at this initially and thought I was not in for a good time. Here I am at the end of the video; I agreed with a majority of the things that were said. It's helped me view JJK in a new light that has added to my love for the series. Though it seems there are series that you alluded to that do JJK's whole thing better. I'm interested in what these mangas or books are, even if some mangas off the top of my head come to mind as series that do what JJK wants to do but better.
i got JJK in my top 10 and you haven't told a single lie
Top 10 what?
Thank you ! I always felt like the show is overrated
That's rich coming from a dude with a mha profile pic. Thats craazy
@@imsentinelprime9279why you talking you literally got transformers .did you stop growing after 12 or smthg???
@@imsentinelprime9279 MHA manga is on par with jjk
@@imsentinelprime9279MHA > JJK
@@Zarathustr huh!?
I’m back. Your points are correct.
At least JJK is better than demon slayer, word is Bond.
no, not even close, ds is the greatest
Demon slayer,Bleach,Naruto, fairy tail,One Piece dragon ball are all better than JJK😂
the progression of jjk is really funny to me because it feels like watching rice be slow-cooked in chicken broth until it reaches the congee plateau. i dropped jjk pretty early on, but i've always been so curious about how it was going ever since i heard gojo and nobara died! pretty disappointing to see the author pull all punches that could actually leave an impact, but it's cool to hear your thoughts on it all! very fun video
How is NO ONE talking about the HUGE binding vow issue in the story
let's be real. It only exist for Sukuna plot amor and Miwa's use of it was to justify it's existence
JJK has the same thing going on with Demon slayer: great art and good fights but has a shitty story
Hxh is still peak shonen
Great art? That's only 25% of the time
complete nonsense, Demon Slayer's story is unmatched, actually engage with it instead of listening to factually incorrect and incoherent rants on twitter
Demon slayer is better.
15:10
It’s because toji is Geges third favourite character after yuta and sukuna so he just tried bringing him back in some way and maki was that character
Sukuna is his favourite followed by the isekai protagonist
16:30
Yea she wasn’t dead which actually made it worse imo
While I dont agree with everything that you say, when you mentioned that Geto would have been a much better villain and could have had more emotional impact on the characters as opposed to kenjaku, I definitely agree. However the way Gege utilized kenjaku and geto, IMO is very well.
I think my favourite is one piece atm; world building and character work is top tier
Bro some of the comments I’m seeing are filled with keyboard warriors right now. Is this video just hate cause I assumed it was when I watched the entire vid
“Blue lock without the football elements is a very boring story”, “bleach is boring once you remove all the sword stuff” - what are we doing bro
Wrong Bleach (if you read the manga) actually has interesting themes surrounding the heart and adds in the overarching idea of living in a world where everyone (even the higher ups sans 7 of them are constantly being lied to). Jjk is just hype and most characters who feel no real emotions outside of woah badass.
@@mitsurismp3926facts
One piece without pirates and government still has fire flashbacks amazing characters and interactions between characters history etc
I read the manga and that’s the point I’m making, you have to read between the lines for one piece or bleach to make sense. It’s the same with JJK
@@dontayz99 no you don't have to read between the lines for either, the story clearly conveys ideas at a narrative and thematic level effectively enough for the reader to posit deeper messages/metaphors and future events. Juju kaisens issue is that the world building is poor, these things and concepts are present enough for you to be able to call back to them as happening in the story but not rooted strongly in the narrative or themes for you to interpret any kind of message, atleast imo, but this is something alot of other series suffer from nowadays. Well structured stories are diminishing because the entire narrative concept is dedicated to priming for and generating hype. It's big problem for me personally nowadays. You can like jjk and acknowledge it has flaws you are willing to overlook, but in that same breath you have to understand those flaws that are small for you might not be for others. And even further, if you can admit that you are willing to overlook flaws, how can you rate it highly? Not even being specific to you, but how can you think this show checks enough boxes to avoid people thinking it flat out sucks? I like demon slayer and I understand perfectly why some people don't like it but these same people genuinely, whole heartedly like jjk? I don't understand fans now.
@@mitsurismp3926no way your reading the manga and seriously think these characters have no real emotions. What characters in the manga have not shown emotion to you?
I agree. Show overrated
This a follow up comment, but the Takaba vs Kenjaku was fire as hell. A underrated character with a broken ability going up against one of the main antagonists and pulling off a win with the aid of a dirty tactic is beautiful! Come on gang… smh