Drinker's Chasers - The Stellar Blade Censorship Firestorm
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- In this clip from Open Bar 93, Grummz explains the backlash against censorship of Stellar Blade, how it all began and what it means for the wider gaming industry.
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I'm old enough to remember when everyone thought the "religious right" were going to censor everything if they got power.
Pretty elegant evidence that it's more about power in general that practices censorship, rather than particular factions.
To be fair, they totally would. The religious right has historically been a force of censorship across the modern age. BUT, that doesn’t mean they have a monopoly on censorship.
It turns out being lectured to and censored by hedonistic brats is even worse
They would/will. It'd be the exact same moral busybody bullcrap.
Oh don’t worry, instead of censoring women’s bodies in a game, they do it in real life.
If Eve was touted as trans, they’d allow nakedness
Don’t even need to go that far, give Eve more defined muscles and these clowns would go “uwu yes mommy”
Honestly, I think she's smooth like a barbie doll under that nanosuit... why would a super weapon need to reproduce.
@@shaifs5072 ok, I get what you're saying, but Muscular Woman can be Attractive too
(So long as it doesn't go TOO Rediculous)
Case in point:
Urbosa from BotW!! 😍🤤
@@nerdrage3626no they can’t
I'm under the impression she's smooth like a barbie doll under that nanosuit, why would a super soldier need to reproduce.
Censorship isn't designed to protect anyone it's designed to combat freedom of speech/expression
That, and it's also about certain marxist cancel-grifters running through the industry like bulls in a china shop: It's not about following any logic in the censorship (as we can see that ugly, gay, etc. people can show as much as they like...even to little children! It's about obeying a small group of leftist cancel-vultures who work in the media, NGOs and now even in the gaming companies. They don't have any logic, they just have power which they want to wield randomly and they expect companies to obey whenever they have one of their knee-jerk reactions.
Literally rated M for mature already, are they trying to "protect adults"?
Nah, send these people to a daycare or something for "adults" because the complainers can't be trusted with anything at that point.
turtle man appears everywhere. Hello turtle guy!
@@denkerbosu3551Didn't you hear? All the tech companies have started to shut down all their adult daycare facilities at the office 😂
@@devdutdutta8796 He's a bot. Get lost, bot.
All they had to do is add the censored one in and let the player choose between that and original outfit through a toggle in the menu.
it's not about choice, it's about punishing straight people for enjoying things.
You know there was actually a game that option it SABOTEUR which I had on ps3
This is about limiting choice, not expanding it. They need to subvert "Normative Standards" and natural Beauty and the valuation of the feminine form is exactly what the androgynous potatoes want to sublate/subvert/transform, etc.
Yeah like a Blood on/off but with sexiness
@@michaelrizzo7342100% accurate. The modern world is anti-hetero and doubly anti-male. The woke cultists know we love games, therefore they must destroy games.
Censoring things that people want. I’m sure that will work out. Give Sony hell.
Didn't they recently take away games from not just from their store, but downloaded games from the PS5s of people?
Between this and helldivers, I'll start avoiding Sony as much as possible
Most vidoo game conpanies have done that a lot for a _long_ time.
Virtua fighter 4 - Evolution (PS2)
In the Japan version, Vanessa Lewis is wearing a smokin' hot outfit. In most other versions (example = USA), they replaced _all_ of her stuff with some military garbage!
Panel de pon (SNES)
The Japan version was great.
The USA version got _destroyed_ by Nintendo. (There's an english language patch for the Japan version.)
In the age of Onlyfans, woke game developers have a problem with THIS? Isn't this the same woke crowd that says sex work is real work? Holy hell.
There are still TABLETOP games!
Be anti-establishment; meet REAL people, be social in RL, do things where you can actually SEE OTHER PEOPLE around you. I swear, it's actually pretty damn great.
It’s so ridiculous. There’s no way the devs knew what “HARD R” means in the US. And even if by some insane miracle they did know, there’s still nothing wrong with it, besides being hilarious.
The full word is even funnier. I’d say it if youtube wasn’t the king of censorship.
Hell yeah I agree
Hard R means lots of nakedness and violence, as in R rated movie.
Hard R as in Racism is not used in standard english.
A lot of *Americans* don't know what it means. I don't... or rather didn't before this issue came to light.
@@tuorofgondolin8235 i din't either, until I searched online and discovered the feared word don't even start with an 'R'. Ffs, americans are starting to pick up letters and getting offended by it.
Meanwhile, over in Baldur's gate....
More like Baldur's thirst.
Gay bear fucking? Not an easy sell.
Baldur's Gate 3: Bear's OFs edition
One has to understand the pickenchoosy mind. No way. It's bipolar and it's always something. Typical female mindset - nothing is alright until I say so. Everything is faulty unless I say it isn't. You know the girl boss type... I just don't get it why those have such influence on games mostly males play. How many female gamers are there? 1 in 10? 1 in 20?
Yeah you can put them in fucking lingerie
If you are actively looking for racism in everything, your WILL find it in everything.
I think/hope as time goes by, we'll get more companies and/or at least indie creators telling these toxic people to go *piss off* somewhere. I think we're going to see a LOT of these companies dialing it back, restructuring, or outright going out of business similar to how Volition (Saints Row reboot) did in the coming years.
They know that, and they take it as proof that it's actually there
Most obviously in yourself.
My front door is racist, it's white
Including the mirror
Buy physical disc copies and disable automatic updates
The game dev deserves all the credit
I disabled my auto updates and it still tries to download it.
@qb9097 you have to disconnect the console from the Internet entirely
No one deserves credit in this.
Sony arguably deserves less of your vitriol! They're Sony! You know what they do!
SU should never have partnered with them, period!
And then the gull to claim it will be uncensored WORLD WIDE!
lol, lmao even!
And especially anyone who buys this game/console! Giving money to people who hate you! 🤡
Need to turn off network. Souknee will push the dl otherwise.
@@That_Guy- also I will add if you connect to the internet at all then disconnect again it will want to read the download. So i just keep my PS5 offline until I finish the game.
Also people have found that the NG+ is on the disc but you have to get to the final boss and beat it with the update. Then start a NG+ and once you the game to save. Delete the game to remove the update and reinstall forem the disc and you will keep the NG+.
I'm a fucking Brit and I had no idea what Hard R means let alone some Asian studio 🤣
Every American knows because we have WAYYYYYYYY too many of them running around stealing all our welfare and bananas.
I'm an American and I had no idea. But I tend to not pay attention to anything cultural.
@@hatchhermit77 I was about to say that, everyone kept talking about it and I was like "tf does it even mean"
I only heard of it in a meme once a few years ago on /pol/, where the Hard Rock cafe had lights burnt out leaving only the HARD and the R remaining. Even then I still thought it meant someone who is "disabled" as in RE- you get it. It's a REALLY obscure, black only in parts of the US kind of thing. It's more like, if you aren't familiar with it, you'll certainly never guess the context.
I’m American and I thought Hard R meant R as in the rating for a movie lol, but when I heard it being explained, I understood, but still, it’s not what I thought the first time I heard it.
The "hard r" thing is something only people from the US could find offensive. It reminds me how some poeple go crazy about the word "negro", which literally means black in spanish. But some people think they're the center of the universe, and everything is directed to them.
The US _does_ believe they're the centre of the universe, lol.
@@JohnGardnerAlhadis I mean it is a nation on earth so they're not completely wrong.
@@botmushin8878 wut
@@JohnGardnerAlhadis Hate to break it to ya, but we are the "universe".
@@botmushin8878 I'm still confused. Are you admitting that you're a space-denier or something?
It sucks this had to happen cos stellar blade was all set to the be the sweetest, most luscious “Fuck You” to western studios and 8 years of having Ogre-like characters shoved in our face.
Until they partnered with a western publisher known for censoring 😂
Which is exactly.why they just couldnt well leave it the F alone
Wow, such a rebel yall consumers are.. bought into their marketing scheme hook like and sinker..
@@StayFractalesque dude that's the point, we want that product sold to us with our desires in mind. That's how AAA gaming was built in the first place.
If it's a fuck you to the other side that is attacking those desires and forcing their world view into the stuff that was built on our desires, the fuck you is warranted
@@StayFractalesqueLOL you thought you had a gotcha there for a minute, that's cute.
This issue is so perplexing to me. How can a woman sell her body in OF for the price of 2 mcdoubles; and that'd empowering. Yet, a studio using an attractive, not real, woman to sell their game be an issue ?
Like Alyssa Mercante you mean?
For _Disney+_ they added some CGI hair to the 1984 movie _Splash._ ..to cover _more_ of the mermaid's backside than they _already_ had covering it. Meanwhile, _Hugh Jackman's_ is uncensored in _Days of Future Past.._
As Captain Picard famously said ~
_"The line must be drawn here! Fantasy this far! No further!"_
Censorship is Censorship, plain and simple. If sony is ok with Abby from last of us 2 having (UNCENSORED) sex in full display, then Sony should allow Shift Up to do the same.
The devs said this wad always the plan for release......
Ppl cone at Sony, but I'll take the devs word for it.
This is on shift up
@aaronclay4665 if you really believe that, then you’re part of the problem. Sony of California. It’s not Sony of Japan anymore
That was the most disgusting scene in gaming history. Nobody will ever delude me into thinking that that wasn’t a gay sex scene.
@@kaj7135Agreed, Abby was a woman from the neck up. Everything below was that of a juiced up body builder. Nothing more disgusting than that combination.
@@aaronclay4665 So you're explanation is they just lied when they said it would be uncensored in all regions? Why bother lying about that and then censoring it? Makes more sense for it to be Sony.
It’s not about sexiness, it’s not about anime, it’s only about power. The fake journalists want to be the gatekeepers. This is why they hate anime and games that are more direct to consumer.
Hell, I’ll take the right half as another costume, but censoring the original? If the player character looked like Abby from TLoU2, bet that would be ok.
Why is no one talking about the loss of gore that sanitized the game. Eve was covered in blood at the end of the first boss battle in the demo and now stands in a shower of blood perfectly clean. That was worse even gameplay wise than the outfits (which is also bad).
The gore wasn't necessarily the selling point for this game, it isn't Mortal Kombat, first thing you see prominently is the pretty, sexy and clean female character
@@CYRU5_DA_GR34TI wanted the blood and combat. I could care less about outfits or a hot pixel chick. She could be a dude for all I care. My wife is in better shape than Eve.
Imagine Bloodborne without the blood.
because its some nerds who never seen a girl before and dont seem to know porn sites is a thing... the game is exactly like they advertized. they changed some outfits... this is just sad man.
@@CYRU5_DA_GR34T the game still have overly sexy, hot, clean female character... this has not changed
Nudity in Baldurs Gate is okay, cleavage in Stellar Blade is not okay.. brain damage.
Ever since the day I was born..
@@EnnuiPilgrim Drugs...
The first thing I thought when I saw that costume was: "Who would wear a piece of lingerie under a swimsuit!?".
Can someone explain to me, why so many people tell that Stellar Blade sexualizes women, when almost every single female celebrity wears open dresses during Oscar? Seriously, sometimes I can barely tell is it a dress or some fancy underwear.
No clue... fictional bad... OnlyFans good.
Make it make sense
Because when women sexualize themselves it’s considered empowering.
Every female I’ve seen play the game has been loving the game and her design and is like “okay girl! Damn” when that shot at the beginning plays as she exits the pod for the first time. And they also all love Tachy and think she’s gorgeous immediately as they see her.
Women like to see beautiful women.
Can someone explain to me why so many people are rallying behind some fetish meme game instead of an actual good game?
@@MagcargoMan it’s a good game.
Censorship is simply to keep opinions you don't like quiet.
Just wanna tell people to go sign grummz petition if they can! 75 thousand strong right now!
Remember when MK9 came out, with several sexy badass female characters, all with outfits just as revealing as Eve's? Remeber how no one gave a damn, they just loved the game?
Any censorship is fundamentally taking away from a product, it never adds to the product or makes it better in any sense. It is some authority claiming they know best and in the process trample over the freedom of a creator because SOMEONE or those that enforce it have taken a disliking to some aspect of the work. Now to make something clear it doesn't matter if it's a small or big censorship, it always needs to be called out for what it is.
Another thing to note is that there are censors or restrictions built into law, rules but the big difference is that these are known by a creator ahead of time that you can't do X thing for X reason. For example you can't put extreme gore in a day time TV show for kids for the obvious reason that it would frighten children who might be watching. That sort of restriction or censoring isn't impacting the work in question because it makes logical sense why it's in place and no would argue that platforms aren't allowed to set rules on what they allow to be shown. Also that content wouldn't be censored if it was on at a later night time slot or a different TV channel. It's been just restricted and the creator can choose whether they do something like a censored and uncensored version for different time slots.
What is not okay to be a double faced bitch and say a TV station allows stuff like full on sex scenes in some shows but than in another start screeching about a different sex scene. It's either all of that stuff is fine or none of it is and offer an alternative where that art or TV can be viewed or whichever platform it is makes it known from the start, sorry we don't allow that type of content.
Pity they don't go to this bother to censor things like microtransactions and other BS ways some game studios actually do cause harm to real people.
So much eye-candy gamers might develop eye-diabetes
Eye-abetes
@@a_lost_oneyou beat me to it
They’ll never get to see anything close to this irl so let’s throw em a bone and show them the pixel version
Stellar Blade = Eye-Halloween
SOLID
Gentlemen? It's time. No more abs for women.
We've spoiled them for too long, and they've stopped appreciating it. Shirts on until further notice.
(My six pack may be new, but it's still mine to withhold. So's yours.)
Way ahead of you, I've been hiding mine behind a respectable layer of beer gut for years.
@@Soridan
You'd like yourself at least 20% more than you do now if you took better care of yourself.
(Anything else is just indirectly carrying water for a cardiologist at some point. And they're douches for the most part.)
@@ephraimwinslow I was just joking m8, I'm no six-packer, but I work out regularly.
@@Soridan
Point stands for anyone who tells themselves that same thing earnestly.
We don't care. We're not the ones who pay for OF, dirty magazines or smut online. The only people you're punishing are gay dudes.
The worst is that at this point there have been at least a dozen of outfits identified, that have been changed or potentially changed.
Some even multiple times. So this is not just limited to the day-1-patch. And you can't bring the argument of "planned design choices",
when they all follow the same pattern: covering skin.
Its not about objectifing or misogyny, its about revenge. In the past anything other than straight sexuality was a taboo in the media, they are reversing it. Now the straight sexuality or anything that is attractive to a straight person is a taboo in the media
Allowing companies to market a game one way and then change it post-launch is a road we don't want to go down. Some ppl think "this is a nothingburger", but these companies will take it to the extreme if we allow it.
The developers should've just pulled a Kojima move. When the Metal Gear Solid girl had literal bikini costume, he was critised a lot for it. My boy Kojima spit in their mouths saying that it had lore reasons 🔥🔥🔥
Lore reasons lmao, the only reason was she was smoking hot
Or taken the Nier Automata route.
When people took upskirt pictures of 2B and puritans got up in arms about it, Yoko Taro asked for more pictures to be sent to him because he likes sexy women in heels.
@Noximien oh it was more hilarious than that. People were talking to him about how they were making porn of his characters. His response was "How horrible! Please send me everything you find so I can examine just how vile it all is for myself!"
Yoko is based.
@@squigglesmcjr199 Sounds perfectly reasonable then
@@NoximienTaro is horny as fuck, and it's awesome. Everyone shit on him and Platinum, until they realized how great the story was. Now she's a goddess in gaming. But he hasn't shyed away from his horniness for Eve. 😂
Really good chat. Great guests, knowledgeable. Really enjoyed it.
What I don't get is why those particular outfits were censored. There are outfits in the game that are more revealing and risqué which were left untouched. There's a bikini and thong outfit that has more cleavage visible than the uncensored bunny outfit, and you get a literal lingerie outfit as a reward for collecting all the soda cans, so what was it about those couple outfits that forced them to be changed?
It seems to be completely arbitrary, isn't it?
If I had to guess, it may be a compromise Sony forced onto the devs. It's not like any of the things Sony has ever censored makes any sense. They just seem to think that they MUST not entirely compromise with what gamers want, because what gamers want is to END esg scores and wokeness, and they still want that sweet BlackRock money so gotta save face by showing that are still woke.
They're maybe available for now. All it takes is one update and they're gone.
@@Rivershield What's funny about that is Blackrock is losing money from their funds. They've had several states pull all funds from Blackrock run retirement funds due to the ESG issues and others who had money invested through Blackrock are pulling out because the ESG funds fail to provide good returns on the investment, and the people investing in those funds are close to retirement and don't have the luxury of not getting the maximum amount of return each year. It won't be tomorrow, but within 2-3 years Blackrock is going to be shrinking rapidly and all of these companies that have chased the ESG money are going to find that they are paying an incredibly heavy price to get that investment today.
Afaik, we don't have any hard proof that Sony themselves demanded for Stellar Blade to be censored. It's a reasonable assumption given past behavior (I lean more towards this explanation myself), but it's technically not known either way. If it was Sony, my best guesses are either that these outfits were the most popular with players or they were a part of some kind of mutual agreement between Sony and Shift Up. If it wasn't Sony, it's possible these changes were always intended by Shift Up themselves, but they got updated too late. The most bad faith assumption is that they censored these outfits so that they can put up the uncensored ones for purchase later, but that's a complete and unfounded guess.
Frankly, no explanation out there really answers your main question lol, but this is the best we've got
The soda can unlocked outfit has been censored too, they added sides.
He joked about it, but the answer really is giving people the option
THIS is why nothing will EVER change, acting like this is no big deal because it's only a little bit of censorship. F that and anyone who thinks that it's OK, it's not. I will happily stick with people who actually WANT my money, indie developers. These people obviously care more about a couple of people's feelings who won't even buy these games than what their customers want.
Get used to it. This is how it is now. You're better off just giving up and learning to live with it. You people have lost the culture war. Except defeat.
This. "It is just a minor change", "come one, it was just a few texts" and yet it all keeps getting worse. If it is enough of an issue for them to care, it is enough for me to care.
@@Brnrsn9vi First off, it's ACCEPT defeat dumbass. Second, nobody has to get used to it, I just stop giving these people money. They will have no choice but to change or go out of business. NO company can survive without customers, WE have the power.
@@Brnrsn9viAccept* if you're gonna say something idiotic like that use the correct word at least...
@@Brnrsn9vi Market is crashing, this stuff is unsustainable. nice psy-ops there. Go back to Polygon.
@9:20 The reason western studios get a pass is because it's queer coded. BG3 and Cyberpunk are 'queer-coded', the sexual elements are added to allow inclusion and diversity. Stellar Blade appeals almost predominantly to the straight male, so journos and blue-hairs think it's bad.
I’m glad someone else is saying this. It’s silly logic, but it’s also not exactly hard to see the difference between the two IPs from the perspective of progressives. They would say they aren’t anti-sex, they’re anti-misogyny. I disagree with the reasoning, and I think their argument is a bad faith argument at its core, but I also feel like fighting a bad faith argument with another one isn’t the way to go about it. The best way to combat a position is to represent it correctly.
@@izclop1375 They are full on misogynists though...
I remember seeing an infomercial for a cleavage coverer back in the day
Same. That one was pretty funny... not nearly as funny as "Tiddy-Bear", though. 😆😂
That one had to be a joke. I refuse to believe they actually sold those! 😂
It’s not about the T&A, it’s about censorship and false advertising.
sure it isn't......its about the "principle"....it always is
The thing for me is that sure, these changes aren't too extreme and the outfits still look good, but its the precedent it sets that at any point a new patch could suddenly come along with even more strict censorship. Imagine if the next patch gives her shorts over the top or something ridiculous. It should be illegal for a company to change a product after launch that you have paid for. I think some pushback was needed to hopefully make them think twice about doing it again in future.
Include both versions in the game and give the player the option to select "standard" or "explicit"...that's the only "reasonable" solution" imo. I doubt that will appease the "unhappy people" because they want everyone to be forced into their mindset but tough !!!
Sony turned a huge win into an unnecessary controversy. They absolutely should not have imposed the censorship update, it's a Mature rated game. Lean into it and enjoy the sales, there will always be a minority that are displeased and you can't dilute art to suit everyone.
The weirdos in Playstation HQ in California are more busy getting their way to care whether Playstation loses from this.
Why would Sony censor something that would make them a lot of money? 🤔🎉
Because Blackrock tells them to and such investors are willing to lose money on one of their investments if necessary because they can deduct those losses in taxation, thus paying less taxes for their profits which they made elsewhere.
Because they're stupid.
@@pistonburner6448 Blackrock and other DEI pushers also seem to have a lot of clout with pretty much all big financers, basically ensuring that if a company refuses to fully comply to their DEI demands, that company will have a very hard time finding a financer willing to lend them any money. My suspicion is that these DEI companies have manoeuvred themselves into the position of being the middleman, who profits from the money lending to gaming companies twice on each deal.
Dei hiring practices
because the free willys of the world dont like it
If actual people are going to choose between a sexy girl and a fugly girl, choosing the sexy girl is the obvious answer.
Its the people who never played the game or a video game in their life that complains about this.
The Hard and Crime with the R next to it graffiti I had to look it up. I didn't realize that saying either one would be even considered an insult. I found it odd.
Hard R isnt an insult its a term used to refer to a word that people say is racist. Its not even bad its a descriptive term.
It's literally the PC terminology to refer to another word. It by itself offense NO ONE and was thought up by the very same fools who are offended.
If a game is rated 18+ doesn’t that mean we can do or see whatever the hell we want we are full grown adults, what’s the problem. Are kids running this industry?
you see, unlike baldurs gate, tlou2, and a long list of other games i could name, stellar blade is not a western release, and must be sanitized.
That’s why I love that Valve started to allow AO games. Even though their standards of what is and isn’t okay is all over the place. They are still the only major platform who allow it and the world hasn’t imploded (shock).
I’m going to turn 36, so I’ll have been an adult for just as long as I was a minor. And I have been over being treated like I am a child or there’s a child hovering over me at all times so I can’t have anything as an adult.
And this game isn’t even that it’s just fanservice, so it’s goofy.
Isn’t “Hard R” a term for an R-rated film that’s almost NC-17, but not quite?
Yup. Welcome to reality.
Far as I can tell your definition of “hard-r” changes depending where you live. To me it means n word. I don’t even when’s the last time I heard of movie with an NC-17 rating. I think they’re more common outside the US.
I hope Grummz is right that, with ESG money drying up, game companies will stop this weird obsession with uglifying game characters. And I also hope that the nitwits at institutions like Blackrock will pull their heads out and stop strongarming companies with their financial policies.
he is in a way. ESG will dry up, but BRIDGE will replace it. BRIDGE will be way worse. ESG just checks boxes. BRIDGE is a way of life. these communists want absolute control over everything.
They're too ideologically driven to turn back. They're also too busy dealing with blacklisted Chinese companies as well.
The same people who complain about this in video games call women who wear even less in my local gym empowered
Tyrone and the drinker is the crossover I needed in my life. 🙌
If only they would pick a standard. Tell lizzo that her body is ALSO beautiful but she should cover it the fuck up.
if they truly HAD to do it then make it opptional since who doesnt love optional things(might as well give you the option to chose what you want for the specific part of the out fit while we are at it)
Love seeing you guys having a knight of rounds meeting.
Sony censoring the outfits is absurd, considering you can take the outfits off and play the game "naked."
The outfits don't show you anything you can't see by wearing nothing.
Wait whut
@mayogamer2800 You can play the game without armor and have just the skinsuit on, which is effectively Eve being naked. Eve isn't human, so she's not 100% biologically accurate. She has no nipples to show or anything, but you can just play the game "naked."
@@beowulfsrevenge4369don’t tell people Eve ain’t human. It will hurt their feelings.
@@beowulfsrevenge4369 the skin suit is still a suit. She probably has human "anatomy" beneath that. We do see someone like her who I won't name for spoilers naked and yeah, they are pretty much human like beneath their suits.
As well as choosing whether to make them bigger or smaller…. Ahem, I mean the costume.
The Stellar Blade issue is much worse and darker than we think. Making women unattractive and manly, while simultaneously making men more feminine is a sinister plan that is coming from the top.
its groomer propaganda to sissify men
When it comes to censorship. Its always gonna be hypocritical.
Some developers will get away with some shit that other cant.
Last of us part 2 had a sex scene and nowhere was that censored.
This game got crapped on for being from a foreign developer. As i notice sony tend to cut slack to western developers
Last of us 2 is all about "The Message" 😉
I will stick to the last phrase Grummz said at 15:40. "Right now is sort of a pivotal time where we are swinging back". I really really hope this is true. A perfect quote to end the video man.
I am glad about putting more spotlight on this matter
Welp as of today. We can see that Shift Up was strong armed by Sony. Thanks to the anime game art book censorship and Helldivers 2 strong armed.
What book?
@@That_Guy- Tsukuhime put out a statement saying that the PS version of the artbook will feature 2 "graphical changes", while the Nintendo Switch version will be unaltered.
We've known for years that Sony imposes their own selective censorship, even on M-rated titles that already passed ESRB. They do it mainly to Asian games with pretty, feminine beauty, while western releases are free to show full, graphic, uncensored naked genitals and have sex scenes, etc. The double standards are an everyday thing for Sony
How did Abby get steroids at the end of the world?
"Beauty sells. Imagine if McDonald's instead marketed the burger you actually get instead of the beautiful picture." (paraphrased) Perfectly put, Tyrone.
can someone tell me how does grummz have this feature where he talks through an animated character that moves with his lips and facial expression? i tried looking online but to no avail. how does one do it?
Or: this is an option in a free country, which they no longer want us to be, but anyway…in a free country a person who has strong feels about empowering the ugly or average can go create their own game. It is the trait of a free country that a good idea can profit, yes, but an innovative approach can also change minds and mold culture. Don’t complain, go do. But a desire for taking responsibility is not why people cry for things. No need to. Because taking responsibility is going to do.
Definitely a good idea to say that the game is amazing and people should buy while still whining about the censorship. That will show them.
Indeed. That's peak stupidity. You hit this people in the wallet or not at all*. Pissing and moaning gains nothing.
*I mean, unless you actually confront them face to face, that's a whole other ball game.
You haven't read Grummz' 8 step plan obviously
Anyone remember the "anatomically correct" mods and skins in Sims 2 and the associated "toys"?
Imagine the fuss that would be made about THAT today!
Two Interesting, knowledgeable and funny guys, get them back on again. Appreciated drinker
There can be no disappointment without expectation, and boy did they build up the expectation to absolute frigging hype..
I don't remember any of this crap while playing 'Yars Revenge'.
11:09 So much this. Women who want smoking hot fantasy figures have been pissed about this long before "woke" was a word. DC Comics will never admit they lost scores of Catwoman fans in 2001 when they remade her with short hair, a flat chest, and a costume universally praised as "practical."
what's Grummz's background does anyone know it looks amazing and familiar but I can't place it.
How the turns have tabled. Sony has become so censor happy. Meanwhile, Nintendo has allowed their more mature IP to dive headfirst into the depths of degeneracy.
they just put an escort game on the switch that has lewd twister. this is pretty much the bizzaro version of the early 2000s.
Pokemon Go jumped on the suicidal woke wagon in April. Word is, they lost a million users overnight.
The right and left are indistinguishable when you take them to the extremes
I thought the Hard R was to do with the age rating. The censorship hasnt put me off playing Stellar Blade. I LOVE the combat. But it really pisses me off they did censor it after telling us it was going to be uncensored everywhere.
The black triangle is a camisole under the one-piece. They are typically worn over a bra or in place of a bra. It's a modesty thing to hide too much cleavage. Sometimes for fashion. It should be an option for the costume, not a default.
If you saw the costume from the side or back you would know it's not a camisole. It's just a a triangle of material at the front.
Don't you love it when companies and activists decide what you can and can't watch.
I sure don't
Don't you know? They know what's good for you AND SOCIETY AT LARGE! Praise the rainbow.
That spilled skittles really has gotten out of hand with how they affect culture.
This is exactly the same as when EA Bioware, decided that Miranda Lawson's physical appearance was something that 'needed' adjusting in their Mass Effect Legendary Edition. They decided she was too attractive and sexualised, (despite the fact that her character was genetically 'perfect') so they reduced the size of her arse. Even though it has been 10 years, and Mass Effect 2's popularity was no doubt enhanced because she was attractive.
It made sense in the development of her character to be physically attractive, the dichotomy of being genetically perfect and yet socially unaccepted due to the impression of her being arrogant, superior and unapproachable. (Cerberus Cheerleader)
Removing features of a game people already love only to remarket it as a remastered edition seems like an insult, because they want to espouse some misguided sense of liberal morality.
Who would bother to repurchase a game they already own if it did not provide the original experience in addition to enhancing pre-existing features to increase replayability...
@1:26 - perfect comparison!
My message to Grummz - don't ever stop fighting :) You are our defence! Stay strong!
Eve is based on real life Korean model Shin Jae- eun . Girl is beautiful and her character in game is beautiful. Koreans appreciate beautiful women.Many of us appreciate beautiful women.
I refuse to understand why the censorship is needed for a mature rated game. I don't care about the reasons the Sony managers in California come up with.
Political.
"Turn off your PSN"
Sony: "But I got Helldivers 2! "
The main thing that confuses me is that there are plenty of other outfits in the game that "exemplify" Eve's figure a lot, so I wonder why the bunny hoodie in particular came under the censorship hammer, while the other's as far as I'm aware were unchanged.
Censorship is rarely about making _sense_
Fellow traveller, i implore you to stand up for an artistic vision. Soyny forced the censorship and shame on ShiftUp for caving in despite releasing physical copies with uncensored version.. but we deserve better. Sign the petition, cancel psn subscription, make noise wherever you go.. take any appropriate action you deem necessary. Look zey/zems in da face and spit in zey/zem eyes. #FreeStellarBlade
Someone should make a 'spot the difference' game of all the bait-and-switch censorship.
Porno or porn-NO!
> *HARD* R
>In Stellar Blade
SO MUCH WIN!
I thought 20 years ago, that anime is not only for kids, having seen i.E. Evangelion and Monster. I'd expect that sales numbers should persuade the big mofos but looking at the manga vs comics situation, it doesnt seem so.
Clearly this wasn't a last minute decision, all those assets needed time to be changed.
Shift Up has censored their global releases for a few years now. Its just that the first time it happened, it was to their first Mobile game Destiny Child. And as such everyone rolled their eyes.
People being up in arms about it happening again with their 3rd game, Especialy when the console is Playstation, feels hollow to me.
I just said “fk it” and bought the physical copy from GameStop after I bought the expensive digital edition…Love the game!
It's a fun game, it has a few combat lag issues, the story is basic but I pre ordered because of the false advertising
Petition is up to 75,000. Come on guy's lets give em something to cry about.
Lets do it for Stella Blade. Do it for Hell Divers 2.
Down with censorship. Stick it to the hypocrites of Sony and gaming journos.
Good stuff! Now, how about that *_Gangs of London_* review from the Drinker?
If only there was a system where we could rate games and allow certain levels of sexual content or suggestive themes… oh wait… 😂
Games rated for mature audiences should never be censored. Media in general should never be censored imo, but it makes even less so when you don’t have the excuse of “it’s to protect kids”.
Just yesterday I believe it was revealed that Tsukihime, an upcoming visual novel game from a Japanese studio is having its ART BOOK of all things censored by Sony. The book is included with its collectors edition and will have two pages of content “modified” due to “publisher policies”. Ironically the Nintendo Switch version will be printed without the censorship.
Nintendo, the most family friendly company you can think of is now allowing more mature content than Sony. How the turntables turn!
I saw that, it proves SONY is responsible for this Censorship! WTF! I'm 48 years old I paid for Uncensored then got Censored in a forced patch downloaded on digital Deluxe Edition EVE's outfits in the Trailers is what I paid for. I deserve the product, I purchased! #FreeStellarBlade petition 75,297 signatures
Is this from a longer stream or something? Feels like it kind of ended suddenly...
Never forget
Senran Kagura
Personally im not going to plag the game its not my thing. However the reason i care about this is because censorship is an issue and as the age old saying goes, give them an inch they will take a mile. So in other words eventually, a game i enjoy, will be the one facing censorship if this isnt combated.
We love you Grummz!! Keep Up Fighting for whats right!!
It's the same for women as it is for men. as a woman, the most I can aspire to be with my limited imagination is to have a body like Aerith from Final Fantasy. like my mind wouldn't go any further than that and if you say for example "Do you want a body like Aertih from FF or Jessica Rabbit from Who Framed Roger Rabbit or having Eve's butt" i would definitely go to Aerith not because I hate Jessica's body or eve's butt (i would if I could, lol) but immediately realism kicks in and I would say "Jessica and eve's body are way over my league".
I still have faith that we will get the uncensored game that was promised
On PC, definitely.
@@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 maybe but on PlayStation 5, I believe the petition is working