The Jose Rizal Retraction: Primary Sources in favor of the retraction

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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2022
  • #philippinehistory #readingsinphilippinehistory #joserizalretraction #joserizal
    The debate about the retraction of Jose Rizal has been a very controversial topic both in the academe and within history enthusiasts. We will attempt to review and analyze the primary sources that will lead us to the evidences of the existence of the alleged retraction of Jose Rizal.
    References:
    Batis: Sources in Philippine History by Jose Victor Torres
    englishkyoto-seas.org/2019/12...
    nhcp.gov.ph/the-rizal-retract...
    varsitarian.net/news/20111004...

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  • @melissapacio3123
    @melissapacio3123 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much po sa paliwanag..God bless you sir!

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

      Thank you din po for watching. Please watch my other videos dn po for this topic. ☺

  • @Gij3marrie_
    @Gij3marrie_ Год назад +3

    Omygad sir thank you for sharing this video

  • @melroseyamson8606
    @melroseyamson8606 Год назад +5

    hi sir, super thankyou po sa malinaw na explanation, malaking tulong po ito sakin kase po part to ng report ko

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

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  • @AiraChloeBasa
    @AiraChloeBasa Год назад

    Thank you so much po!!

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Welcome! Please watch my other videos about Rizal and other RPH topics. Don't forget to share and subscribe!

  • @aym._ej
    @aym._ej 4 месяца назад +2

    ¡Esto es muy informativo! ¡Muy detallado! ¡Gran explicación, señor! ¡Tú también eres guapo!

    • @lyn4977
      @lyn4977 4 месяца назад +1

      How did u understand it😮

  • @JoemacOliverio
    @JoemacOliverio 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for the detailed info, sir.

  • @riyapark1524
    @riyapark1524 Год назад +5

    Hello sir! Great discussion! Is it possible to get a copy of fr. balaguer’s affidavit of retraction?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Hi, you can check the references posted in the video description I hope it will help.

  • @louiseann4381
    @louiseann4381 Год назад +1

    Thank you Prof, can i ask po about the historical facts about this topic?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Yes po how can I help?

    • @louiseann4381
      @louiseann4381 Год назад

      @@profnextdoor21 may i know po about sa historical facts ng retraction of rizal?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

      I guess every detail about the last day of Jose Rizal can be considered as a fact except for the retraction part since it is still disputed today. For me the closest one that can lead you to the facts about the retraction is the cuerpo de vigilancia report which could be watched in this video

    • @louiseann4381
      @louiseann4381 Год назад

      @@profnextdoor21 thank you po, appreciated! super helpful po sa report namin next week!❤️

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

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  • @marychristinejoyalbon178
    @marychristinejoyalbon178 Год назад

    Comparing the multiple perspectives about Jose Rizal's "issue of retraction, which have more accurate historical narration and why? are there are similarities and differences of their accounts? If there are give and explain

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Hello, you can check the report of the Cuerpo de vigilancia. It is included in this video. You can also check the sources posted in the video description.

  • @yamipique6265
    @yamipique6265 Год назад +1

    Good evening, sir! We are going to have a debate about the retraction of Rizal, and we stand in the affirmative. Can we have any tips from you, sir?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +5

      Hi! If you are done with gathering and organizing your supporting infos from this video and other sources, just focus in building up your confidence and consistency. Rehearse your arguments and everything will fall into its rightful place. All the best!

  • @koboshisol7142
    @koboshisol7142 Год назад

    Helpful💚💚💚

  • @user-ur1ol4nq8u
    @user-ur1ol4nq8u 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good afternoon, Sir! Pwede po ba malaman kung saan makikita yung statemement ni Fr. Pi?

  • @jamaicaluna6963
    @jamaicaluna6963 Год назад

    hi good evening po sir ,may i ask po who create that sources?thank you po

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      May I know what specific primary source you are asking about?

  • @princess-dp9jh
    @princess-dp9jh Год назад

    hi sir, do you have a handout for this topic po ba? thank youu so much!

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

      I only have books and internet sources from which I use as a basis for this video.

  • @angeliemancia5368
    @angeliemancia5368 8 месяцев назад

    Hi we are going to have a debate about the retraction of jose rizal. what are the possible pros qnd cons?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  8 месяцев назад

      Hi you can watch this video and the anti retraction video for full discussion for this topic. Thank you!

  • @marychristinejoyalbon178
    @marychristinejoyalbon178 Год назад

    Please help me sir😢

  • @jianmaasin806
    @jianmaasin806 Год назад +1

    sir may I asked if sinong professor ng UP diliman yung nabanggit mo?

  • @weenagundan7542
    @weenagundan7542 Год назад

    hello po, how about po doon sa critical analysis of austin coates, can u explain it po?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

      Just like with Rafael Palma, he did not believe the retraction. He questioned the real intention of Balaguer who Coates thinks that he only wanted to gain popularity and attention. He also doubted if the marriage to Josephine really took place and how much the retraction would damage Rizal's reputation. He also think that the retraction did not happen because Rizal was denied Catholic burial which was supposed to happen if he retracted. Coates also suggest that ifcthe retraction really took place, Teodora Alonzo should have been informed by Rizal before he was killed.

    • @weenagundan7542
      @weenagundan7542 Год назад

      @@profnextdoor21 thank youuu sir

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

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  • @johnmarkdaradal68
    @johnmarkdaradal68 Год назад

    Good evening po prof, we have a reporting po and I am the one who is assigned of the Historical context of the document at ito na po yun yung retraction of Rizal what can you suggest po? Thankyou po

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      If you are assigned to the historical context, I recommend you also try to visit the references that I posted for this video. You can see it in the video description. I hope it will help you.

  • @ivanpiscasio7017
    @ivanpiscasio7017 10 месяцев назад

    Hello sir! Can I ask for any tips since we will have a debate po but we are on the negative side of Rizal's retraction po

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  10 месяцев назад +1

      I would suggest to watch my explanation about the report of the cuerpo de vigilancia. Here is the time stamp 13:23

    • @ivanpiscasio7017
      @ivanpiscasio7017 10 месяцев назад

      @@profnextdoor21 Thank you so much sir!

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  10 месяцев назад +2

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  • @ronronrobles4036
    @ronronrobles4036 Год назад +2

    Sir tanong ko lang po kung bakit sa 1st main argument is Fr. Balaguer and Fr. Pi yung pangalan ng Pari, tapos nung sa claim na ng cuerpo agent, naging Fr. March and Villaclara na yung name nila. Sana po masagot💞

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +2

      Ayan din yung babasag sa statement ni Balaguer. If the Cuerpo report is true, Balaguer possibly based his statements on the testimonies from March and Villaclara and maybe he wanted to take credit for himself

    • @edelleruelos5399
      @edelleruelos5399 5 месяцев назад

      natural n magreact kasi ang mga bulaang pari dahil isa sila sa mga lumabag s tunay n Biblya...napansin kc ni Rizal ang meeting s Tran atlantic slave trade kaya ginawa nya ang NOLI ME TANGERE

  • @chaeyoung4697
    @chaeyoung4697 Год назад

    thank u sir, laking tulon neto sa reporting namin sa rph po.

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Salamat po! Anti retraction vid is next on the way! Please subscribe and share!

  • @user-op9gn3qi9g
    @user-op9gn3qi9g 10 месяцев назад

    Hello sir! may ask kung saan po pwede makuha yung mga letter na binabasa niyo po need lang po na evidence sa position paper

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  10 месяцев назад

      Hi! Please check the references in the video description

  • @madelplacio8853
    @madelplacio8853 Год назад

    Hello sir pwede kupo ba malaman Yung connection ni Rizal Kay Fr. Rafael palma ? thankyou po😊

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Rafael Palma is a writer who became a popular biographer who studied and wrote books about the life of Rizal.

  • @mynemesis
    @mynemesis Год назад +1

    Sir how about po sa Unfading Glory, Great Debate and Rizal Beyond Grave?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Hi. I am yet to have access to those books hopefully I can create another content for that in the future. Thank you!

    • @mynemesis
      @mynemesis Год назад

      @@profnextdoor21 Pero part po din sya ng Rizal Retraction, kaso nga lang po di ko mahanap summary.

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Yes. I think these are books that can only be accessed through libraries or by purchasing them.

    • @mynemesis
      @mynemesis Год назад

      How about po Sir para sa inyo. Did Rizal retracted or not?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Para sa akin kasi mahirap pa sagutin. I am still waiting for the retraction letter to be once again publicly available and be reexamined by the experts using current technology to verify if it was indeed Rizal's handwriting.

  • @killuazoldyck7478
    @killuazoldyck7478 Год назад +1

    good morning po, if the retraction is true there are possibility that Jose Rizal will not considered a National Hero?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +4

      I personally think that nothing will change if ever the retraction will be proven. Jose Rizal's contribution in awakening Filipino Nationalism will not be changed and it already served its purpose of liberating us from Spanish Tyranny

  • @sevillejoappleclairej.2744
    @sevillejoappleclairej.2744 Год назад

    Sir pwede niyo po ba explain sa first part sa afidavit ni father vicente balaguer ?huhu d ko po kasi masyadong gets dun na part , e rereport ko po yan bukas🥺

    • @sevillejoappleclairej.2744
      @sevillejoappleclairej.2744 Год назад

      Sa part po na... I think it convenient to point out that when the Archbishop sent his commission to the Ateneo, he remarked that, in case of conversion, before ministering the Sacraments to him, Dr. Rizal should make a retraction of errors publicly professed to him in words and writings and a profession of the Catholic faith. To this effect, when the Father Superior of the Mission went to the Archbishop's Palace, he brought by way of precaution a retraction and profession of faith, concise, but including what he thought out to be extracted from Dr. Rizal. The Prelate read it, and declared it to befficient. He said, however, that he would prepare or order to prepare another more extensive one.

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

      ​@@sevillejoappleclairej.2744 To make this simple, The Archbishop of Manila ordered that Balaguer should convince Rizal to return to Catholicism. However, for it to happen, Rizal need to retract. Fr. Pio Pi then constructed a retraction letter by the orders of the Archbishop and hand it to Balaguer when he went to the Archbishop before proceeding to the fort and meet Rizal.

    • @sevillejoappleclairej.2744
      @sevillejoappleclairej.2744 Год назад

      @@profnextdoor21 thankyouu poooo 🙈♥️

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      @@sevillejoappleclairej.2744 Welcome! I wish you all the best with your report

  • @jeannebhebnecesario9088
    @jeannebhebnecesario9088 Год назад

    Good Afternoon sir magtatanaong lng po about sa retraction ni jose rizal pra sa debate namin po kami po ay na assigned sa disagree

  • @renanpaulcabarles9505
    @renanpaulcabarles9505 Год назад

    Sir pa help any evidences na si jose rizal did not retract kailangan kupo sa debate namin

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Hi! Have no worries! You can watch it here! ruclips.net/video/vaJtWGYyf4E/видео.html

  • @bsa1-3yasmincodog6
    @bsa1-3yasmincodog6 Год назад

    Sir ano po ba yung similarities ng testimony ng cuerpo at ni Fr. Balaguer?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Hi! The statement of thr cuerpo and Fr. Balaguer are similar in stating that both claimed Jose Rizal participated n Catholic ceremonies like praying and attending the mass. Both also claimed that the retraction was signed by Rizal.

  • @drian15
    @drian15 Год назад +1

    sir samin po kase naka assign kame sa forged anti po ba yon or pro?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

      Hi po sa anti po iyon. I also discussed that in this video 😁

    • @drian15
      @drian15 Год назад

      @@profnextdoor21 thankyou poo sir, and kakatapos ko pang po panoodin yung anti salamat po ng marami sa mga gantong content

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

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    • @drian15
      @drian15 Год назад

      @@profnextdoor21 naka subscribe na po since prelim papo namin, salamat po sir sa information mas napapadali sakin yung ganto, tamad po kase mag basa HAHAHAHA

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Maraming salamat! Please subscribe and share!

  • @MaggiesCorner16
    @MaggiesCorner16 Год назад

    Hello Sir, Good Day po, I hope manotice po Ito, may I know po ba Kung ano po Yung reference NYU po regarding this topic? I am a BSED-ENGLISH student, 1st year. We are tasked to do a historical Paper about the most contested and ever incontestable manuscripts of Rizal by Jesus Ma. Cavanna. Nahihirapan ako umintindi talaga,😥 kuha Lang ako Ng learnings dito .

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +2

      Hi! You can check the video description for my online references. Thank you!

  • @ECFM22
    @ECFM22 Год назад +2

    Sir I just want to clarify some websites said that Pio Pi never really spoke to Rizal. How did he knew about Rizal's Kneeling before the altar??

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +3

      From what I can understand, he received information from the priests that went there.

    • @ECFM22
      @ECFM22 Год назад

      @@profnextdoor21 thank you sirrrr

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

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  • @nelsonogano8264
    @nelsonogano8264 Год назад +3

    Good Eve sir! May debate po kami about retraction and proposition po yung assigned samin. Ano pong strong argument ang pwede po naming sabihin kung bakit nagretract si Rizal po? Your response is very much appreciated po♥️

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

      You can use the report made by the Cuerpo de Vigilancia. It is also included here in this video.

  • @domalantareychel2072
    @domalantareychel2072 Год назад

    Hi sir, may I ask? Confused po kasi ako kung sino Author ng Rizal's retraction need po kasi namin sa Report namin.

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      Hi, what is your question po?

    • @domalantareychel2072
      @domalantareychel2072 Год назад

      May I know po kung sino yung Author ng Rizal's retraction? And what is the relevance or significance of Rizal's retraction?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

      Hi po, you can watch the whole video to give you the detailed information about the primary sources of rizal's retraction.

    • @michi4277
      @michi4277 Год назад +1

      @@domalantareychel2072 base sa video, si Father Pio Pi ang nagsulat ng mas maikli at concise na retraction. pero may minor adjustments pa din na ginawa si Rizal, though. the significance of his retraction is to let the public know that he is retracting all of the things that he said against the church, and is renouncing his catholic faith.

    • @domalantareychel2072
      @domalantareychel2072 Год назад

      @@michi4277 Thank you po❤

  • @josieilagan2400
    @josieilagan2400 11 месяцев назад

    Hello sir! Tanong lang po, considered as primary source pa din ba ang statement ni Fr. Pio Pi kahit naging secondary na yung kay Fr. Balaguer dahil sa report ng Cuerpo de Vigilancia, which is wala naman si Balaguer sa mga bumisita kay Rizal?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  11 месяцев назад

      Pwede natin maconsider pa rn na primary source Si Pio Pi pero pwede ntn sabihin na unreliable kung susundin natin ang cuerpo report

  • @SOLLANOMycaP
    @SOLLANOMycaP Год назад

    THANKS PO SA INFO BIG HELP PO SA PRESENTATION KO BUKAS HHEHEHEH

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      All the best with your presentation! Please subscribe and share!

  • @mynemesis
    @mynemesis Год назад

    SIR! May copy po ba kayo ng text ni Fr. Balaguer in 1987?

  • @kimreyes435
    @kimreyes435 Год назад

    good evening po ito po ba yung sa statement lang?

  • @drexyltusoy2626
    @drexyltusoy2626 Год назад

    Sir, bakit Po kaya pinatay parin at di nabigyan Ng maayos na libing si Jose Rizal?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +2

      Di nmn na mababago kung nagkarun ng retraction o hindi ang sentensya kay Rizal. Pero yung sa di maayos n libing ayun ang kinukuwestyon ng mga anti dhl kung totoong namatay si Rizal n katoliko, dapat ay nailibing ito ng maayos

  • @itik1080
    @itik1080 Год назад

    Sir, saan ko po makikita yung exact words nung affidavit ni Fr. Balaguer? need lang for referrence.

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +2

      I would recommend the book of jose victor torres "Batis"

  • @m.x.
    @m.x. Год назад +1

    Please, can you tackle the Filipino Genocide by US? Another interest topic is the despicable Freemason secret society in Philippines: their true intentions and wrong doings.

    • @leonsano3207
      @leonsano3207 11 месяцев назад

      The philippine revolution could not be possible if without the inspiration and execution of the Heroes like Rizal, Luna, bonifacio, mabini, aguinaldo and many more who happen to freemasons. iyan ang isang wrong doings ng mga mason sa mga kastilang mananakop.

  • @johnreyalibarbar4389
    @johnreyalibarbar4389 Год назад

    Sir nakasal po ba si rizal sa second testimony?

  • @user-gt3ec2po6m
    @user-gt3ec2po6m 10 месяцев назад

    Blessed early morning sir,😊 is the retraction of Dr Jose Rizal really authentic? Then bakit daw po walang nakarating man lang na kopya ng nasabing retraction ang kaniyang mga pamilya at mayroon po ba talagang ipinakita na marriage certificate nina Rizal at ni Josephine Bracken po?😊

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  10 месяцев назад +1

      Hi! thank you for watching! Those that you mentioned are part of the anti retraction sentiments from those who question its authenticity. The supposed retraction only came out decades after his death and only a few was able to examine it.

  • @Sun_God_Nikaa
    @Sun_God_Nikaa Год назад

    Sir proof bakit po kaya gusto ng archbishop na maibalik si rizal bago si rizal mamatay?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +1

      Proof of retraction? I think insufficient. Ang may gusto n makabalik s Catholicism si Rizal are mostly Atenean Priests that are fond of Rizal being him as their most brilliant student

    • @Sun_God_Nikaa
      @Sun_God_Nikaa Год назад

      @@profnextdoor21 thank you po sir sobrang nakakatulong po to sa report namin

  • @briangabayaran7646
    @briangabayaran7646 Год назад

    Then why po na yung retraction letter ni rizal discovered after 40 years pa? Dba that letter is important

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +2

      That is one of the criticism of Rafael Palma, a Rizal biographer. Please watch my anti retraction video for this topic for more details ruclips.net/video/vaJtWGYyf4E/видео.html

  • @tubatuwariwari584
    @tubatuwariwari584 9 месяцев назад

    Hi po! Can I ask po something para lng po sa final reqs nmin abt analyzing the retraction of rizal?
    "What do you think is/are the impact of retraction of rizal in our contemporary society?"
    Thank you in advance for the insight! Will help a lot po!❤

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  9 месяцев назад +3

      I think sa ngayon, wala nmn po except it gave us different perspective about Rizal and the topic provided us something to get interested with in history. Whether he retracted or not, his legacy and contribution towards Philippine Nationalism is already established.

    • @tubatuwariwari584
      @tubatuwariwari584 8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you po! Helps a lot!❤

  • @judykarl5354
    @judykarl5354 Год назад +1

    nagretract po ba si rizal or hindi po?

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад

      That is still up for debate and it depends on whom you will ask. I suggest yo read or watch my analysis about the Cuerpo report.

  • @timothypaladin5360
    @timothypaladin5360 Год назад +1

    13:20

  • @bashhassan473
    @bashhassan473 Год назад

    Ibig sabihin kailangan mo magpaalam sa pari kung ano paniniwalaan mo

  • @arbeemaerimando6846
    @arbeemaerimando6846 Год назад +2

    Good Evening po Prof ..
    How can you proof that Rizal retracted his mansonic beliefs to become Catholic again ?
    Thankyou so much po pagdating sa history video nio po talaga ang aking pinapanood .. ☺️

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  Год назад +2

      Hi! Thank yo very much. Supposing the retraction was true, the best proof is the report of the Cuerpo de Vigilancia that could provide an impartial primary source that narrated Rizal participated in Catholic ceremonies before his death.

  • @user-iv5ex2hq5o
    @user-iv5ex2hq5o 5 месяцев назад

    Simple lang. Bakit ginagawa nyong kumplikado. Nasan ang pirmado ni Rizal na nag retraction siya. Daming dada.

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  5 месяцев назад

      Panuorin nyo po ang buong video kasama na ang para sa anti-retraction mapag-uusapan po ang retraction letter at pirma ni Rizal. Di naman kasi basta pwede na hindi busisiin ang kasaysayan at iba pang importanteng detalye tungkol dito. Kung sa tingin nyo ay marami akong dada, wag nyo po ito panuorin, gumawa po kayo ng sarili ninyong video baka may mahalagang impormasyon ka na makatotohanan ang pwede maibahagi sa amin. Salamat po.

    • @user-iv5ex2hq5o
      @user-iv5ex2hq5o 4 месяца назад

      Prof. Walang retraction na naganap. Pero may pagbabalik loob sa Simbahan. Iba ang retraction sa pagbabalik loob sa simbahan. Pinagsasama mo kasi kaya nga hirap kayo mag paliwanag ng totoo.❤

    • @profnextdoor21
      @profnextdoor21  4 месяца назад

      @@user-iv5ex2hq5o Sasabihin ko pong muli, pinanuod mo ba ng buo itong video? Binasa ninyo po ba talaga ang sinasabing retraction ni Rizal na puno't dulo ng isyu? Nandun po kasi mismo sa dokumento na nagpahayag si Rizal ng kanyang retraksyon.

    • @user-iv5ex2hq5o
      @user-iv5ex2hq5o 4 месяца назад

      @@profnextdoor21 Propesor, 1896 pinatay Si Rizal ang dokumento mo ay 1935 na nilabas. Hindi ka ba nagduda aa dokumento nayan? Kung totoo iyan dapat 1896 ay na publish na iyan sa news paper ng mga panahon na iyon? Dalawa ang isyu diyan.
      1. RETRAKSIYON O PAGBAWI SA MGA SINABI NI RIZAL LABAN SA KAAWAY NIYA.
      2. PAGBABALIK LOOB SA SIMBAHAN.

    • @user-iv5ex2hq5o
      @user-iv5ex2hq5o 4 месяца назад

      @@profnextdoor21 1896 pinatay si Rizal. 1935 lang nilabas ang dokumento mo. Bakit hindi nilabas ang dokumento nuon mismong 1896?

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  • @edelleruelos5399
    @edelleruelos5399 5 месяцев назад

    c rizal my lahing intsik pero nalaman mo b ang ktotohnan kung pano tau pinagtanggol ng mga intsik?

  • @edelleruelos5399
    @edelleruelos5399 5 месяцев назад

    wala k p alam