What’s killing Minnesota’s moose?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- And what it would mean to lose the moose.
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The Anishinaabe or Ojibwe, have lived on the land we now call Minnesota since long before European settlers arrived. For as long as they can remember, their lives have been intertwined with that of the moose. It’s more than a source of food - it’s also a way of staying in touch with their ancestors, who carved game pieces from the antlers, fashioned elaborate clothing from the hides, and used the hair to embroider intricate designs on everything from stockings to cradleboards.
But this relationship between the Anishinaabe and the moose is in danger. The population has been in freefall for the past two decades. We joined a group of scientists as they set out to unravel the mystery, in the hopes that this generation of Anishinaabe won’t be the last to thrive alongside the moose.
Note: A previous version of this video was mistakenly published with a graphical error. The error was corrected and a new version was published.
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As an anishinaabe this was pretty heart breaking to watch. I like vox videos but this one was so close to home. I grew up in Northern Minnesota and I may not be that old but I've noticed how the winters have been changing for the last 20 years. I live in the twin cities now but when I go home to visit family the woods and wilderness just feel different. Plus this year's drought doesn't exactly help. All I can think is my people are survivors and hopefully we can make it through this.
I believe you would and I think you'll make it because of the strength of your ancestral culture.
Watching this gave me chills. I’m also a Minnesotan. It absolutely devastates me knowing how poorly natives have been treated here both presently and in the past, but also how poorly we continue to treat our planet. All in the name of money. Northern Minnesota continues to feel different every year. It’s been three years since I’ve had a summer where there hasn’t been a haze from the fires that continue to ravage parts of the world.
You will. I wish our country did more to help the indigenous people here. It’s angering. Resilience. Indigenous. Deserving. Your people will find a way through this, you find a way through everything you face.
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We’ve survived 1000’s of years despite all the challenges we’ve faced. We’re not going nowhere. ✊🏽
It's scary to think that the Minnesotan ecosystem I remember, that my parents and grandparents remember, is so quickly slipping away. I used to joke that the mild winters might be nice, but it stopped being funny many years ago.
Do you think a bit of snow shows it’s harsh?
Living on the north shore of MN I’m really glad to see more coverage about stuff like this
We need to protect the norshore at all costs
@@PH-wc8ll Vox also had a video a few years ago about the copper sulfide mines proposed near the boundary waters and the potential pollution.
Its because of wolves not people
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Down on the other part of the state. Southern part XD
100,000 Effin ticks? That's incredible and heartbreaking.
Just to show you nature is terrible and human invention is good
Don’t possums eats these ticks?
@@adanactnomew7085 not sure if you're serious or not. If not, ignore this comment. If you are, it's because of humans that the ticks are a problem.
@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? thanks for the truism
That's my Dad Jeff 💗 Proud of him.
We have been living off of one mooz for the past year. It was one of my daughter's first foods. The mooz is very important to us, culturally too.
Hi, Allie! Thank you for watching and for commenting. I learned so much talking with your dad and other members of the Ojibwe community for this story. -Liz
@@Vox I know Carl too and he is so knowledgeable. He and my Dad are a part of Native Skywatchers, a really inspiring group. I'm glad you got a chance to meet them!
@@Vox Hey Liz, very interesting story. I have a question though. Why go through all the effort to explain all the various causes, and to then further explain how they can all be tied to climate change. Only to end up at the intellectual dead end of "White man bad".
Such a waste of time and effort.
@@peteblackburn7850 because euro settlers are the catalyst and commonality between all of this.
Media: Scientis are desperatly looking for an answer
Scientist: It's climate change
Media: There is no answer yet
Me as soon as I heard that at the beginning... "It's probably climate change"
Honestly I feel really bad for future generations...the environment is changing so fast and in so many ways.
and the 80 year olds in congress refuse to do anything because it's not their problem, meanwhile they've taken everything they can from our economy and environment for their own comforts and threw the future generations in the trash. they got theirs, and we are done for.
One of the most impactful things we can do is urge our governments to make decisions and enforce regulations that will push us towards a greener future.
Not just future generations… OUR generation is in great peril unless something changes soon
Societal collapse is predicted to happen by mid 21st century (2040) due to our limitless extraction of limited natural resources. It was predicted by MIT in 1972 and it is still on track
That’s why we are learning biodiversity in school
As a Minnesotan, this is something that's worried me for years. Thank you for highlighting this problem to a wider audience.
He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life.
I truly agree with you on that,
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I feel Carl's exasperation, European settlers came, took the land, killed the people and animals living there, extracted all they could from the ground and now their descendants know barely anything about the native inhabitants of the land they live in. It's truly infuriating.
Not to mention the loss of biodiversity, and people growing up thinking that’s just totally normal.
@@kaitlyn__L To be honest, they are probably related to those European settlers. A vast majority of Native American people end up marrying outside of their race.
so much for liberty.
if it was not for the old photographs. people could easily dismiss this. man, the word "progress" really means destruction. obliteration
@@kurikuraconkuritas in the span of 100 years, humanity manage to destroy thousand years of earth's life
Love these documentaries. Would like to see a longer one sometime
It’s good cause it’s filled
Watch explained on Netflix, it’s a series co-written by Vox. Highly recommend
I actually really like how short they are! I appreciate that Vox does shorter stuff, especially because I like showing these in my classroom.
Hey, Ras. Thanks for making my day. Hearing about teachers using our videos in their classes is so motivating! -Liz
@@Vox lol ignore the main comment and reply to another one much
The calibre of journalism on this channel is phenomenal. I always come away so impressed
plus the editing!
Yo that is my cousin April! Such a well done video and great representation of my tribe!
Restoration efforts for certain populations of animals can work, but how well? Watch our video on the grey wolf to learn more about conservationist work and what it means when an animal is endangered: ruclips.net/video/6Ix2hRBf1V0/видео.html
I am from Minnesota
You say “European settlers “ and “their descendants “ lol. YOU AMERICANS ARE THOSE SETTLERS AND DESCENDANTS.
Ok and…
I'm from Minnesota.
@@animmonster3553 yes that’s the point.. to think of modern Americans as European colonists’ descendants, rather than somehow separate from that.
Lots of people like to think something along the lines of “well I was born here, _I_ didn’t do any of those things myself” with the implication being “so my existence here is neutral rather than a continuation of colonisation”.
But obviously the remaining indigenous population doesn’t see it that way, it’s extremely obviously “the colonists’ descendants” from that perspective.
Man the end was inspiring but hopefully we can eventually reverse the damage we've already done
There's about a 30 year lag time for the output effects of putting carbon into the atmosphere, so we're already signed up for it to get much worse than it is now. That is why we need to drastically change our infrastructure over to zero emissions energy immediately.
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@@JohnSmith-sk7cg Also we can start to implement restorative programs, it's completely possible to restore natural environments and with a bit of help from humans it can be accelerated. If we lower our land use a bit and then return that land to nature and start to restore it we can both start to undo the damage of climate change, reverse it a bit as nature is the best carbon sink, and protect ourselves from climate change by creating natural environments that can soften the impact. There are several ways to do this, demolishing suburbs and building denser cities instead, abandoning unsustainable farm land, reducing the capacity of highways and using rail instead, and closing down every coal mine and oil well.
@@hedgehog3180 Yeah but now try to convince people who have that power to do that. I don't know a single person who would prefer to leave their suburb and move to a city for example
We need to abolish capitalism first, it is the only way.
Very good video. As a resident of Minnesota in the Minneapolis area, this sounds about right. Temperatures have usually been unusually hotter than normal this summer. We barely had a winter. Last year, our first big winter storm was the day before Christmas Eve. 10 inches. That was for us down in Minneapolis but it was felt similar up north.
Feeling it here in northern ontario too. Way hotter (Had never experienced a summer with 40 degree (C) weather until now) and the forest fires are getting out of control.
This exactly.
It’s going to be around 90 degrees in the Minneapolis area tomorrow. It’s late September. It should be much colder at this point. And the snow amounts have been noticeably lower the last few years even though the winters have still been extremely cold.
The weather has been getting much more extreme here and everywhere else in the world, and it’s only going to get worse
Sad that this comment thread is being taken over by bots. Don’t click their profiles people and report them.
Spectacular explainer. To successfully connect the dots and make the whole chain-reaction understandable is a major feat. It feels easy because the creators made it easy, but the amount of research and creativity needed to make it comprehensible to laymen is not insignificant.
As a scientist, I agree completely with your comment. Liz and the Vox creators did an outstanding job of describing an complex problem in terms that non-scientists can readily grasp. Furthermore, this was done with an excellent description of the context of the work through an Ojibwe worldview.
Connect the dots to make the whole chain-reaction understandable you say? It predictably ended up exactly where I figured it would 5 seconds into it. They explain this, and go over that, all for it to end up exactly where many of Vox's stories do...
And it's so blantantly obvious that I don't even have to say it. Because everyone already knows.
"This area has a relatively harsh climate" he says, sitting in the snow
Snow isn't harsh
As a Minnesotan, all that was, was confirming he's from around here.
Behind the scenes reply, I was interviewed in the beach chair on the shore of Lake Superior for an hour in a half in a sweatshirt and jeans at 20 degrees Fahrenheit, it was snowing and windy. I was hypothermic by the time we finished. :-)
What a great job you are doing at Vox! Telling climate change stories by linking them to settlements and globalization. Love them.
-from India
Really loved watching this video and especially the interactions with the surviving Ojibwe people and their thoughts on this .Thanks Vox !
I've gotta admit, I'm a little disappointed that a First Nations hunter (or more likely a Vox editor) doesn't know the difference between birch & aspen 15 seconds in.
Definitely was the Vox editor
The First Nations hunter is my wife, she knows her trees. Definitely a poor edit by vox with their b-roll footage
"The biggest killer was the brainworm"
Some things never change.
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"I think it would be a lot stronger" Sadly nothing is stronger than Greed
Minnesota is so beautiful never realized.
You need to find the right places
Northern Minnesota is absolutely gorgeous
@@liamthomas3666 I have actually never been there. I would love to see Minnesota and Michigan.
@@drakemayer9197 I would to get there some day. I have only seen it in films and documentaries.
@@Thebreakdownshow1 Wear high bog boots, and a parka. And mosquito netting. Anything I forget?
I’m glad some media is showing & educating others on the impacts of global warming
You and I already know the answer... it's us, albeit indirectly.
That's the price you have to pay living in a society.
The Climate Crisis is pretty much "all us, directly". Not "indirectly".
@@MrGert150 you mean the price people more vulnerable than me have to pay to live in our society
nothing indirect about it.
@@flutee6162 everyone pays some pay more. If you're rich you'll eventually move to Mars so it won't be a problem
Humans, it's always humans.
Commenters, it's always commenters.
Did you post this same comment on the previous upload??
Even living here Duluth Mn on North shore I did not know this was happening. Glad to see coverage like this
I love how such a short video has so well made, i probably wouldn't watch it if it was 20 minutes or longer
That’s because your attention span isn’t capable of it? Longer videos force everyone involved to research more and present more scientific facts. What is wrong with that?
@@Maydaymayday84 or you know we don't all have time for that, i have a job, we don't all have 10 hours to watch long videos
The ending of this video 🤯💯
Doesn’t make any sense
This is heartbreaking 💔
Colonizers, not Settlers. (I'm French, and don't like euphemisms)
Agreed. If nobody lives there, you're a settler. If someone else is already there and you exploit them and their land, you're a colonizer.
Well it depends where the colonizers/settlers decided to build their town. For example, while the island of Montreal was already inhabited before the Europeans came, large portions of the North American continent were empty. There were between 25 and 35 million inhabitants in what is now Canada and the USA before the Europeans came. Even with almost 400 million people in 2021, there are still huge portions of the territory that is empty, so imagine how it was before the 1500.
@Metal Man "just in case there is a possibility they might enslave us, let's enslave them first"
-Every colonizer ever
i learned that in 2014 in school. honestly, it's pretty terrifying
Minnisota is a beautiful amazing state I would love to see you make longer documentaries
Yes it is. Up north
Coming from being in the southern part of the state.
@@onomatopoeia162003 I live in st cloud and I've seen what the north is like so true
I learned about this in my MN bio class!! Really interesting stuff!
If your biology instructor is interested, please have them look up Grand Portage biologists for additional information.
No comments, just a nother horrific story about human greed. Its usless to type some words here we need immediate action before its too late.
Also a good example of how the effects of climate change can go far beyond just the changes in temperature. It can easily cascade into areas that you would have assumed weren't affected.
I've not seen the video yet, but I think Joe Rogan is killing them
Never mind it's actually very interesting and very in-depth video. More people need to watch this and understand the problems with climate change
Only two things can explain more than 50% of the problems we are facing today
1. British🇬🇧
2. Oil🛢️
I agree 1000
caucasian and oil is what got this planet where it is today. this problem isn't limited to Minnesodda
Short Answer: Man's Greed
Long Answer: Watch video
We have to be held accountable for what we're doing to our planet.
I am always amazed how huge they are
They removed something. It's about 6 seconds shorter than the original.
Posting for notification with the answer
Why don't they start with a high bag limit on the deer moving north?
This is so sad and heart breaking
@1:43 it is relatively hard to read Seth Moore's job and name due to the white text on snow, very minor but makes it slightly harder to follow!
Yeah a border and/or a drop shadow would help a lot. It’s industry best practice to do those things all the time, even when the composition doesn’t seem like it strictly needs it, just to ensure everyone can read it easily. So it’s annoying that was missed, especially given the amount of snow in the video.
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This is horrifying! There has to be a way to reverse the climate disaster we're experiencing.
I think climate change is not about reversing, it's about preventing
To prevent something is better than to reverse something
But I don't think it's too late
For me the turning point might be 2025 but I guess we may not no for sure
This world is cruel
this explains and illustrates so many important things from ekology to climate change to nutrition nets and mutualism
I am from minnesota and also live on lake superior. This is a serious problem.
'relatively harsh climate' - says the man chilling outside as the snow falls
What a sad thing. Obviously and effort needs to be done to help this animal thrive again.
just started watching the video but i’m gonna take a wild guess that it’s either directly or indirectly humanity’s fault
Minnesota is a beautiful place, I wish I could visit one day.
Should. Would recommend it.
We know, but a significant amount of people in power don't care.
Extraordinary explanation!
Omg 🥰🥰 i cant believe Vox made a video about my Home state Minnesota 😻😻😻🥰🥰
please help us preserve our state it’s truly beautiful
I litterally love you guys so much for making these.
Just forget about Mars and try to protect our planet first.
Based on the geographic area shown in the map, the traditional land seems to be significantly more than 2,000 square miles.
Beginning of the video: I'm gonna guess climate change and white people.
End of the video: Wow, what a surprise.
It's always a shocker
Why white people?
@@kashifahmaad7489 it's vox they are gonna always find a way to make a video racial or politicial
black people don't drive cars? They don't warm their houses?
@@rubenvansoest6200 Your so much as mentioning that is racist. I’m surprised Vox hasn’t censored your comment yet.
As someone who lives in Finland whitch is in Northern Europe, It has been noticable even throughout my life (22years) how the winters of my childhood have changed to winters with almost no snow. And if you compare temperature data from the past to the present it is imminent that the winters and summers have become warmer substantially. It's so sad that human actions are causing the climate to change in such a way
Brainworm sounds like something that could explain antivaxxers behaviour, too. Someone should look into it...
Can anyone explain why it was previously taken down?
It hasnt snowed since last year in MN. {I live here} This footage must have been taken last year.
I also live in MN, was thinking the same thing!
wonder what the last date it was to snow here in the state.
"BuT cLimAtE cHanGe is NoT rEaL ThouGh"
Time to wake up
Vox is one of the best channels on RUclips and I watch it religiously.
That lookout over on Mt. Josephine is one of my favourite places on the planet. Took me right back! I miss Minnesota.
It’s always humans. What is causing this or that, you can always answer humans,overpopulation and capitalism, which in turn is the cause of all the other things that plague nature.
overpopulation is a capitalist myth
@@EdhellenCuar This is false overpopulation is not a myth it is an important factor which can't be neglected. Research has shown that you can not remove population as a factor as human land use is a major contribution to the problem as agriculture is one of the largest sources of carbon emissions. It isn't the sole factor for sure but fossil fuels were a large part of what allowed that extreme population growth in the first place at the same time degrading soils and global biodiversity. As the soil is one of the largest carbon sinks mostly in the form of the large biodiversity that soil used to be as the wild environments have been replaced with desolate and lifeless monoculture laden with toxic chemicals. The net result is we have temporarily boosted the carrying capacity of humans we can sustain but this will not be sustainable without either serious cuts in resource expenditures
Research has began to reveal the extent of which human land use over the past 12,000 years has increasingly released more carbon dioxide as the net loss of living biomass has crashed. Yes these problems escalated drastically since we started before fossil fuels, but the underlying issue that humans have driven up the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere remains, from ancestral hunter gatherers, fishermen, big game hunters which have impacts when population numbers exceed the ecosystems sustainability limit and particularly both pastoral and agrarian lifestyles which have an additional harsh impacts on the soil ecology and the amount of life an area can sustain, there are simply far to many large consumers relative to primary producers.
This impact is certainly less than the petroleum driven surge of industrialized lifestyle but there is evidence to suggest a sizable correlation between the "little ice age" and the declines in human populations through disease, famine and violence around the time due to European colonists introducing serious diseases and causing population crashes through sub Saharan Africa and the Americas as well as the effects of a number of significant volcanic eruptions over the roughly 500 year period. The population factor is recognized in ice sheet sediments which reveal that there was a drop in carbon dioxide over this interval as collapsing civilizations such as the Maasai herders (due to Rinderpest and the large Amazonian farming civilization allowed for the regeneration of forests. Now this was only contribution one of at least 3 different factors but it helps emphasize the sizable role human land use can have.
Can we potentially overcome this problem without killing off lots of people? I think so if we change how we live to reduce our ecological footprint and we embrace nuclear fission power as a resource reducing the sizable footprint that renewables take up.
This is a complex issue with no quick and easy solutions so we can't afford to neglect a factor, in particular certain groups are having a disproportionate rate of procreation.
@@Dragrath1 all facts
Also to add. The population of all livings things, when it gets out of control mother nature will find away to do away with the extras. Meaning harsher conditions and catastrophe for said population. As humans we are good survivors, how long will we break the laws of nature to stay alive before nature turns on us completely. It could be heatwaves it could be droughts it could be starvation it could be anything. But as humans we will face certain calamity in the near future as a rule of time. Life has been way too sweet for the past 60 years for everybody and its about that time again for a real struggle to emerge, the weak and needy and those who cannot look after themselves will be the first to go.
The statement stands true that only the strong will survive, the native people as shown are very strong and resilient and they may be some of the only people left given everything goes wrong and life as we know it is reduced back to survival and not excess.
Thank you for following the science on this!
Great explanation and animations. Thank you
everydaym i learn how much problems we humans have created and everyday i grow more and more certaint that we simply will cause an irreversable, permanent damage not only to the earth, ecosystems, wild and generally life as we know it but also to ourselves and everything we will, have and is touching.
Vox always brings the interesting content
Yeah, kind of.
I learn a lot here.
But sometimes there is some pit to this that I can't stand.
I hope that the Ojibwa and their traditions survive this catastrophe.
And Vox, I love these documentaries and I wish that you did these documentaries more often! Vox is my source for news!
Brayden its surviving caucasian that's the most difficult .
It’s going to be a very black spring there’s no flowers here ..
Minnesota needs to start free ranging Guinea Fowl to get those ticks under control!
7:31 as an Indian, I better not see any comments saying we're not Indian. I am Lakota, and my Treaty and Nation use Indian. Stop calling us Native American and leave us alone if you can't respect us.
But you aren’t Indian? You aren’t people of the Indus River? You’re lakota
the mic in this video sounds like it was taken from a set of earbuds lol
What happened earlier?
Why was it made private?
word
I think they accidentally used a stock image with a watermark in the first upload.
Each ancient culture (especially native) must be preserved and much is to be learned from them.
Great video but dear Vox, next time please don't use white letters on written introductions, if literally 90% of the background is Minnesota snow
Wow this is the most Canadian video that's somehow not about canada
Such a delicate balance that maintains us all. Disrespect it and we shall all fall.
I think this is one of the best vox videos
Same problem in Sweden some years ago. Haven’t hear much about it lately.
This makes me want to learn more about my home
Spoiler alerts: it's us
I hate climate change, I hate what we’ve become in the 21st century
We all do
Go vegan c:
@@kemalettinsrt i've figure people have explained to you like you are a 5 yo many, many times about how ignorant that statement is, but you never listened to them, so i'd rather not try. Poor brain of yours in that tight skull
@@kemalettinsrt yes but that prices typically takes ten of thousands of years to go up a degree or two not 100 or 200 years that's like comparing a single car on the highway to rush hour traffic
@@kemalettinsrt someone's got brain worms
Dudes giving an interview while it’s snowing in just a hoodie 😂
What’s wrong with first upload if this video?
I’m from Minnesota. This makes me sad.
well-crafted video,thank you
Apne Selmon Bhoi 😂😂😂
Foothpath pe mil tu😂
lol apne ladke har jagha
Well this is heartbreaking and depressing. Idk why I even watched this. I had a feeling humans and global warming would be a factor.
I've been watching vox since for quite a while, its a miracle that vox can put together all clues and data they've found to a conclusion, basically the documentary channel i would recommend my younglings and other people to watch!
Did they upload twice
yes, first one was taken down by them
More of this please! I had no idea!
Thank you for sharing. We all need to know this.
Well studied and documented... Thank you for insights...
4:21, the average snow depth has declined by 30%, not 70%...... The graph even shows it.....
I am just glad that the Americans have started calling the Native Americans by their actual tribe names instead of calling them all "Indians", coz they aren't and never were in the first place!