The ending with Catherine IS one of the good endings. The bad endings are the ones where you get dumped...one of which involves Vincent dying in a hit and run.
Yeah I can't see how being more powerful than the devil [which you can see in the muted clip with the text if you read it] and basically being so much so you don't realize you're sitting on him, is a pretty good ending when other options involve "Dead".
What about the secret ending in Far Cry 4? Yes, you're basically going to be trained as Pagan Min's despotic replacement, but at least you managed to get your mother's ashes safely home without killing anyone.
I think it's a good deconstruction of why a good guy can't waltz in to a dictatorship, fix everything and walk out a democracy. However a more benevolent leader taking over from Pagan Min instead of the two pricks in the Golden Path is probably a good ending...
The first Infamous game. Sure, Cole stopped all the evil Conduits and saved Empire City, but now he has to live with the burdens of being a superhero, his girlfriend is dead, there’s a rogue government agent plotting against him, and his best friend has ended their friendship out of remorse for betraying him. I’ve seen Batman stories with happier endings.
@@IamaPERSON Yeah, either you go with the "evil" ending and everyone not a Conduit dies, or you go with the "good" ending, where everyone who IS a Conduit dies, including Cole. Kind of a lose lose xD
One contender I'd argue for is the "Good" ending in Spec Ops: the line. Yeah, you might have survived and are getting out of Dubai but now you're mind is gone and you'll probably put on trial for war crimes.
The very bad, absolutely horrible ending of Corvo the Black in Dishonoured 2 where you don’t revive Emily and take over the throne for yourself was, in my opinion, super badass, even though it was deeply unethical.
I’m pretty sure the Dark ending of Dark Souls is the “good”ending. By the time the third game comes around, it’s clear the endless cycle of Linking the Fire has drastically corrupted the world. And if you do all the right steps, letting the Dark Age finally happen frees humanity from the hollowing, and undeath no longer bleeds your humanity away.
Yeah. Or that your choice is at least pointless because of the cycle. Dark Lord ending still leads to DS2 because someone else lights the flame. Light the flame ending leads to DS2 because you light it and then it eventually fades. No winning here.
Now I'm no master of Dark Souls Lore, however my interpretation is that neither ending of DS1 matters. Both are bad options, either endless cycle of relighting the fire causing cruelty and distortion or world filled with tough monsters and devoid of friends (Untended Graves DS3). Most importantly though, both choices seem meaningless. It is hinted in the dark ending of DS3 that even if the fire was to be let fade it will all play out again. Really I think, the only way to truly break the cycle is the Lord of the dark ending in DS3.
On a surface level, kindling the First Flame is the good ending. Dig deeper, and it's turns a bit more gray, but not bad. It isn't until Dark Souls 2 and 3 where we start learning why hollowing is happening, and why simply lighting the flame doesn't really change anything
Hey now, the Catherine ending where you rule hell is referred to as the "Good Ending". The real Catherine "Bad Ending" involves Vincent running out into the street and getting hit by a car, which is definitely less cool
Yeah Neither or "Order" or "chaos" endings are treated as bad. In fact the game makes a point of emphathizing that both choices are entirely valid and it's more what kind of life you desire for yourself. Although the "Order" ending is obviously more "Virtuous" while the "Chaos" ending is more about raw desire, but the game doesn't shame you at all for choosing chaos is that is what you wanted. What the game punishes you for is if you basically back out at the last second choosing one pathh but trying to go for the partner tied to the other path. So both the "order" and "chaos" paths have bad endings of their own but the "true chaos" ending was meant to be a "good" ending. Even if you do kind of give up your humanity for it.
@@metazoxan2 I do like the true neutral ending. My man says nah to both and books a ticket to a space station as he goes on a journey of self discovery
For me, the hardest part about getting Sekiro's "Shura" ending wasn't the boss fight against Isshin Ashina, it was having to kill Emma each time I wanted to restart the fight :(
Time to go to work boys (tm) let's give them some examples! (Own video game knowledge doesn't go too much further than Mario, Ninja Turtles, Batman, Spider-Man, and Grand Theft Auto) Uhhh, Web of Shadows again. I mean, still ruling New York with an army and Spider-Man's best girl. What can I say? I like my superheroes with cats
The Sonic CD bad ending does have an undeniably badass explosion, but I think it's heavily implied Robotnik escapes by travelling back in time, since after the credits, the Miracle Planet reappears, chain and all. Not only is Robotnik not dead, but used the power of time travel to undo Sonic's awesome improvised shot putting skills. Probably counts as negative cool. Sorry
Idk imo linking the flame in darksoul has always been the bad ending. Lord Gwyn artificially extended the age of fire by linking the flame so the gods continue to rule. The age of dark is the age of man and so by linking the flame you're basically ensuring humans remain subjugated.
@@GenesiisDavid true I am not denying that linking the fire is a bad Idea Just that letting darkness over the worl is not that great either But I would/have always choose the dark ending
Bravely Default's "bad ending" sees you foiling the villains plot before it ever gets to its final phase. Compared to the true ending where you actively fulfill the final phase of the plan despite the game screaming at you so much that the title tells you what's going on.
I feel like the dark lord ending for ds is a good ending. You break the cycle that was never meant to happen, letting nature take its course and helping humans be free from the gods allowing them to develop, hence why its called the age of man, something Gwin tried to prevent by linking the fire over and over, first by himself and later by other chosen undead, unnaturally prolonging his age, all so he could keep his kingdom
Now I remembered the bad ending to Blood Omen in which, instead of sacrificing himself to restore the pillars of Nosgoth, Kain went "You know what no, I'm gonna take over the world instead." That ending was so much better than the good one it actually became the canon ending for the rest of the series.
Jane: "Opps, just noticed I'm wearing a Friday shirt while shooting this. I could stop the camera, change, and then just reshoot my parts.... Pfft, it's Friday, who cares."
Looks like we got the "bad ending" of this video, where Jane puts on the wrong shirt and ends up making a joke about it. I'm sure the "good ending" isn't nearly as funny, though.
That's Outer _Worlds,_ not Outer Wilds. In Outer Wilds death by sunbathing is a regular occurrence. Hell, it even managed to creep up and hit me from behind a few times. Fun fact, Outer Wilds also has a "bad" ending. One where you ... [Spoiler] Destroy the fabric of spacetime. This "Kazoo" ending is hilarious.
Star Wars Knights of the old Republic in the dark side ending Revan reclaims his or her title of Dark Lord of the Sith and has Bastila become their Jedi apprentice in addition to having access to the star forge.
Could never actual go through with this ending, can't even remember the name of the characters since its been years since playing that game but i do remember never being able to go through with having to kill of one of them
The Dark Souls one makes me think of "times the bad ending was the best choice", as, as far as I know, reigniting the fire kept the world in a slowly rotting limbo and letting the age of darkness come would later bring an age of rebirth, kinda like how in legacy of kain later games revealed choosing to rule as a vampire was the best choice for everyone
Speaking of Dance parties and bad endings, what about the "Bandit Ending" of Mortal Shell. Do a bunch of side quests for a random NPC in the game and rather than continuing the cycle of immortality you just sit around all day drinking and playing some pretty rockin' tunes.
You probably wont read this because there are 500 more comments around here but i wanted to let all of you know that i used to watch all of your stuff religiously and stopped for a while. I just binged your most recent d and d stream. That along with other videos i rewatched have hit me with nostalgia really hard and i want you all to know that you guys are awesome and i love your work. Thank you for the good times
timestamps! (to skip around to one you want to see or to avoid spoilers) 0:00 intro 1:03 outer worlds 4:06 spiderman web of shadows 7:33 sekiro 9:52 catherine 12:26 sonic cd 15:01 dark souls 17:19 dying light: the following 20:33 outro
" 7 bad endings that were cooler than the original." One involves a whole crew of people we love dying to sun radiation and the other involves spiderman enslaving new york citizens. ....I thought these were suppose to be cool? I mean the first one's pretty hot if ya know what I mean!
Hey, Symbiote King Spiderman is a pretty damn good ending. Hot Symbiote Queen Waifu? Check. An army of Symbiote subjects to rule New York and attempt world domination? Check. I think this is better than swinging off with a Mary Jane who has spent the whole game whining about him wearing the superior suit.
Spider-man doesn't even kill anyone. Sure, he practically mind wipes all of New York, but no one died!... Well except Brock, but he was gonna sacrifice himself anyway, it's fine.
There's a comic (I don't know which one, so don't ask) where Spidey gets his hands on an orb that allows him to know everything (he was even able to name all the Spice Girls). He considers keeping it, since he figures he could do more good if he knew everything. But them rejects the idea, saying that "too much power would give him too much responsibility."
@@jdb2002That just reminds me the lessons of Thor and Iron Man saying “Wielding this (the suit or Mjlonir), you are signaling to the universe that you’re ready to accept a higher form of responsibility.”
I like to get attached to the characters and gain their trust then betray them not only ruining my characters relationships but had him kill everyone of his allies who trusted and respected him, then I reload the save file and pretend it was nightmare of what would happen to the player if he fails
The dark souls ending is the good one... the one where you replace gwyn is just continuing a cycle of abuse and exploitation designed to subvert destiny. Dark souls's subversion of themes of light and dark by tying dark to good and light to evil is extremely berserk... and also extremely awesome.
They really aren't reversed, though. Dark is supposed to only be accessible by dredging up horrors in the human psyche, and pro-dark characters tend to be pro-murder characters, besides a witch. Also the darkness tends to be the thing causing corruption. And the dark ending tends to be borne of betrayal, or framed as giving up. And the bad consequences for fire characters tends to be that their best was not enough (though not necessarily for faith characters...who tend to fall via darkness). Really, even if you figure ending the fire cycle and hoping for the best is the best ending, it's definitely not because darkness is good.
@@arthurpendragon309 I mean, it is though. Darkness is just humanity. With the virtues and vices that entails. Darkness is framed as evil largely by people who aren't exactly reliable... but by contrast the light is ALWAYS a lie. Even the sun of an orlando is just an illusion. And what we see of darkness is largely relics of those defeated. The real enemy of darksouls. The real evil... its entropy. And Gwynn tries to hold it back by standing on the corpses of civilization instead of allowing the world to pass to the next age... is it fair to call the man being stepped on evil for demanding liberation?
Catherine and Vincent using the legendary evil antithesis to God named Satan as a FOOTSTOOL is just hilarious. This pure and unfiltered evil which is said to be a parallel to the very being who supposedly created the world and all life being used as a simple piece of furniture is just perfect.
I always loved the bad ending to The Witcher 3: Heart Of Stone, Geralt choosing not to defeat this godlike trickster since, in all fairness, it wasn't his fight, and just having Mirror walk off into the sky whistling was just so much cooler.
Well, provided that there are no proper "good" endings in "Sinking City", awakening the daughter of Cthulhu and unleashing her on the world as in the "worst" ending is still the coolest option.
Assault Suits Valken, a mid-90's side-scrolling mecha shooter from Konami for the SNES, had an alternate ending you could set up about halfway through if you weren't careful. The setup level involves assaulting an enemy space station built into a small asteroid in high Earth orbit. Just as you break into the command center, they activate the station's engines to initiate a Zeon-style colony drop. If you don't destroy the engines in time, you can see the asteroid impact (which briefly whites out the screen) in the background during the next level, but you can still finish the game. If you do, your side still even wins the war: it's just, everything is so broken that there's little point. Your side has taken such a beating by that point that your ship and cute bridge-officer girlfriend don't make it, and the world is irreparably ruined by the asteroid impact, so your character becomes an embittered nihilist wracked by survivor's guilt. I can't say it's a _cooler_ ending, since your character sees everything as his fault (admittedly, it kind of is, at least in the context of the story being a game), but it's definitely well written, and it was an excellent touch to include it.
I'm pretty sure that Dying Light The Following's bad ending is the canon one since it is already known that the infection wasn't stopped and eventually got to the rest of the world, as is the premise of Dying Light 2.
add: the weird alt ending you could get early on in Suikoden 4 where you just live out your endless days on an island with your friends. endless coconuts, wood, and bonfires. And you can get this alt ending very early in the game, so BONUS, you dont actually have to play the terrible game that is Suikoden 4
@@michaelrate7693 you are entitled to your opinion, tho it is wrong. 4 didn't even have the right number of party members. How could they screw up something that simple? 2 and 5 are the best IMO.
I liked doing the bad ending in TW3 blood and wine (even though I did on accident), although it was sad. It felt a bit like "you can't win them all", which I think sort of fits the tone of the Witcher universe
Cuz none of the Shadow The Hedgehog bad endings could be cannon, all the endings besides the "True Ending" are referred to as "What if endings" which you have to see what if shadow did this since he suffers from Amnesia, he can do anything, since none of them could happen, they didnt put it in, the Sonic CD bad ending could be made cannon
I wanna make a shoutout to Fable 1. Where the "bad" ending sees the Hero of Oakvale becoming an unstoppable demonic overlord. And in the Lost Chapters variant, you become the immortal vessel for your charming nemesis throughout the game, complete with a sick mask.
And on top of that, regardless of what you pick, according to rumours in Fable 2, your character eventually snaps and carves "YOUR HEALTH IS LOW" into the Guildmasters face.
4:49 Andy: But also included our other favorite thing about old console spider man things..." Me: "Black Cat's cleavage" Andy: "...hilarious quick time event fails" Me: "Oh right"
What about Fable TLC, after defeating Jack of Blades in the form of a dragon you get to choose whether you destroy his mask which you trapped his soul in or you become the next Jack and wear it.
There's also a hidden timer with that part, if you sit and listen to all the dialogue the Mask eventually forces you to wear it. Theres also an implication (to me at least) that Jack himself was possessed by the mask, so who knows how far back that things corruption goes.
I know I'm late, but watching this on a Friday worked out pretty well for me. Especially since my work week ends on Thursday nights and I was too tired to fix my router when I got home. Thanks, Jane.
Good choice with Dark Souls, the "bad ending" is actually the good ending, since the Gods arent tricking you into becoming a Martyr just so they can survive.
I honestly think that the "Dark Lord" Ending is the good ending, as humanity was born of the Furtive Pigmy aka the "Dark Soul" and thus the Dark Ending is ending the Age of Gods and Ushering In The Age Of Humanity.
There isn't really a clear answer, which seems fitting. Bear in mind the only people who claim that no, this will totally be a good thing for humanity no really trust us, are the grinning serpents. If those guys told me water was wet, I'd run my hand under a tap just to make sure.
@@paulgibbon5991 I think there's a misinterpretation by the Souls community of the dichotomy of light and dark, fire and abyss, gods and humanity, etc. I think the fundamental point is one of balance and cycle; neither light nor dark are completely good or completely bad, and the natural, stable cycle of the world is a balance between them, as dark souls 3 so brilliantly displays the results of an unnaturally long age; the world is folding in on itself, death, the curse, plagues, insanity, all ravaging what little remains of life in Lordran. I'm sure a prolonged age of dark would find itself in a similar position. It's also worth noting, however, the influence of third party, unnatural interventions, like Gwyn's curse, for instance. The entire story of Dark Souls begins in a state of relative peace, "absolute disparity", or perfect balance, and only once the Gods threw that balance out did things set on their course to corruption. I think that's why the age of dark is the "good" ending; It's not that the dark is good on it's own, its that it's needed to counteract the light thats currently dragging the world down with it. Sorry for reviving a year old comment btw, lol
@@akalichamp7030 Thinking about it, you could see the moral as being quite Buddhist--unhappiness comes from trying to cling to something that's past its sell-by-date and refusing to accept that nothing lasts forever. Still don't trust the snakes. 🙂
Somehow the alternate ending for persona 5 Royal didn’t make it on here, so. (Btw spoiler alert) Here’s my formal suggestion. The third semester ending where you go with maruki’s reality. Whether good or bad, it gives all your characters a better life, which is undeniably cooler since everyone really, really deserves it.
is it a better life if that life is a lie? especially because it all but invalidates all the growth the characters got through their trials. I mean its an undeniably interesting ending, but let's be real, its not really a happy ever after. its just what Maruki believes will make everyone happy, even at the cost of their own free will.
@@jamesherb4384 to me it’s the bad ending, but it does give all of you and your traumatised friends a break, which is cool to me. Don’t get me wrong though, I like the true ending too
Been so long since I last watched one of your vids. I wonder what it's going to feel like rewatching these after the pandemic, when you're back at your studios and all
you got the dark souls ending reversed. lighting the fire is the bad ending as you irreparably ruin the world and it's natural order. the dark ending you set things back to the way they're supposed to be. the reason the evil serpent is on the good ending's side is because of a very successful propaganda campaign by the gods
Yeah but you really don't piece it together til the third game. It definitely does put the whole series in a different context and that's some brilliant writing.
@@mr.j7444 Ooo yeah you're right. The world has long been dead and you get the sense that everything isn't right. But do you really understand that linking the fire prolongs the suffering? Either way someone else ends up linking it cuz it's cannon
Those smiling blinking worms that now to you in the bad ending are far and away the scariest thing I’ve ever seen in dark souls which is really saying something!!! And the bulldogs jowls uggghhh 🤦♂️ gives me the willies *shiver*
In dark souls though, kindling the fire is like, the sacrificing yourself for the oppressive and dying status quo ending though, so I'd actually say that dark souls is wrong on this list, since you list the good ending as the cooler one (which it is, but like, I always read it as the good one)
To be fair, Age of Dark is presented as the bad ending. Its only once you get deeper into the lore and series that you learn that the Age of Fire is the bad ending instead.
For me it was always Dishonored, sure in the good ending Emily learns how to be a benevolent leader or whatever, but man was the final mission boring. Bright sunshiny day and all the main villains just get poisoned by Mr. I-can't-even-remember-his-name. Meanwhile in the bad ending you approach this dark stormy island brimming with security that only a master assassin could overcome, systematically kill off the traitors yourself and teach Emily the very important lesson of not trusting anyone in politics.
@@murasaika2776 How about instead of him getting bent, you as he so eloquently put it „do your goddamn job“ and shoot your psychiatrist in the fucking face?
while maruki may have had good intentions, I find it very difficult to accept what he was doing. aside from the fact that him making sumuri belive she was Kasumi was all together unsettling, the whole point of his boss fight is acknowledging that the characters are who they are because of what they have gone through. artifical happiness that someone else decided for me, sounds more like a nightmare than a paradise.
Outer World's reminds me of the Expeditionary Force book where the captain decides they need a big red button because he was wondering aloud if they should jump the ships they captured into a planet and the AI just says "Done"
It is. There's a Good, Bad, and Neutral ending for choosing either Catherine or Katherine. Ruling hell is her Good ending. The bad ending has Catherine turn Vincent down and then he gets hit by a car
Sekiro's bad ending is indeed interesting, but not the "most" interesting considering you miss so many interesting things. The final fight in the fields is still one of the best moments.
@@IamaPERSON recent storyline in which the god of the symbiotes, which is the source of the god butcher’s weapon, uses an army of symbiotes to try and take over and then eventually destroy the universe
The ending with Catherine IS one of the good endings. The bad endings are the ones where you get dumped...one of which involves Vincent dying in a hit and run.
Yeah I can't see how being more powerful than the devil [which you can see in the muted clip with the text if you read it] and basically being so much so you don't realize you're sitting on him, is a pretty good ending when other options involve "Dead".
What about the secret ending in Far Cry 4? Yes, you're basically going to be trained as Pagan Min's despotic replacement, but at least you managed to get your mother's ashes safely home without killing anyone.
Well you didn't kill anyone that day. Who's to say Pagan didn't make Ajay kill someone as a test
Honestly having met the rebellion leaders I think taking over myself would be a better way to go about it
I think it's a good deconstruction of why a good guy can't waltz in to a dictatorship, fix everything and walk out a democracy.
However a more benevolent leader taking over from Pagan Min instead of the two pricks in the Golden Path is probably a good ending...
@@mattkennedy9308 I mean, that's the whole plot and idea of Far Cry 4 and by some extent, to an old saying. "Between two evils, pick the one you know"
Without killing anyone yet
Dr. Eggman: a steampunk Teddy Roosevelt... is the best description of a character ever!
Well, I have to say its actually pretty good.
I will never un-see this...
Honestly? Life changing.
Well, Dr. Eggman's design was inspired by Theodore Roosevelt, so ironically that is the coolest description ever!
@@mikagesama1990 correction
His mustache is inspired by roosevelt
Can you do the reverse of this, 7 good endings that made you feel bad. And if not pokemon mystery dungeon games are on that list I will riot.
The first Infamous game. Sure, Cole stopped all the evil Conduits and saved Empire City, but now he has to live with the burdens of being a superhero, his girlfriend is dead, there’s a rogue government agent plotting against him, and his best friend has ended their friendship out of remorse for betraying him. I’ve seen Batman stories with happier endings.
@@anarky1765 and the second game is even worse, good ending wise.
ikr.
@@IamaPERSON Yeah, either you go with the "evil" ending and everyone not a Conduit dies, or you go with the "good" ending, where everyone who IS a Conduit dies, including Cole. Kind of a lose lose xD
One contender I'd argue for is the "Good" ending in Spec Ops: the line. Yeah, you might have survived and are getting out of Dubai but now you're mind is gone and you'll probably put on trial for war crimes.
The very bad, absolutely horrible ending of Corvo the Black in Dishonoured 2 where you don’t revive Emily and take over the throne for yourself was, in my opinion, super badass, even though it was deeply unethical.
(Is it bad that I didn’t even think of what the bad ending in D2 was?)
"deeply unethical" is a bit of a strech for a game where you play as Slits-pipes McGee.
@@daikansanchez7674 Ah yes another commenter of culture
And a bit OOC too.
@@michaelandreipalon359 "Daughter Shmaughter I have ghost powers"
Luke getting the "bad" ending in dark souls by mistake still makes me laugh
That's all I could think about during this entry 😂 He causally wandered off trying to explore and had no idea he triggered the ending.
@@Rodrigo-ei4ht Happened exactly that way to me, too. I wonder how many people became the Dark Lord just because they wanted to explore.
I did the opposite. I saw the bonfire, went "Finally" and then got the Link the Fire ending when I just wanted to rest. Q.Q
Same. I didn't want to light the fire and kick off NG+, so I decided to wander out and bam
it's funny cause the Dark Lord ending is technically the good ending. Reigniting the flame just delays the inevitable Age of Man
I’m pretty sure the Dark ending of Dark Souls is the “good”ending. By the time the third game comes around, it’s clear the endless cycle of Linking the Fire has drastically corrupted the world. And if you do all the right steps, letting the Dark Age finally happen frees humanity from the hollowing, and undeath no longer bleeds your humanity away.
Yeah. Or that your choice is at least pointless because of the cycle. Dark Lord ending still leads to DS2 because someone else lights the flame. Light the flame ending leads to DS2 because you light it and then it eventually fades. No winning here.
@@AbsolXGuardian The fact someone else makes the wrong choice later doesn’t change the morality of your choice though...
Sharles Davis Kendy depends on how you view the ethics
Now I'm no master of Dark Souls Lore, however my interpretation is that neither ending of DS1 matters. Both are bad options, either endless cycle of relighting the fire causing cruelty and distortion or world filled with tough monsters and devoid of friends (Untended Graves DS3). Most importantly though, both choices seem meaningless. It is hinted in the dark ending of DS3 that even if the fire was to be let fade it will all play out again. Really I think, the only way to truly break the cycle is the Lord of the dark ending in DS3.
On a surface level, kindling the First Flame is the good ending. Dig deeper, and it's turns a bit more gray, but not bad. It isn't until Dark Souls 2 and 3 where we start learning why hollowing is happening, and why simply lighting the flame doesn't really change anything
"What happens when Spider-Man gets an adimantium claw jammed through his eyesocket?"
The same thing that happens to everything else.
*FATALITY*
Umm... being promoted to Big Boss?
squish
It's actually a trick question. Spider-Man's too fast for adamantium claws :P
@@mar_speedman oh right, and his spider sense helps
Andy: Remind me not to ever steal any time stones
Don’t worry, they’re just paperweights
@The Gaming Meta yes
@The Gaming Meta I was just thinking that!
@The Gaming Meta For halfway through the first episode so nah 😆
Time Stones are a joke anyway since the chaos emeralds can manipulate time AND space.
So really the time stones aren't a big deal.
I understood that reference!
Hey now, the Catherine ending where you rule hell is referred to as the "Good Ending". The real Catherine "Bad Ending" involves Vincent running out into the street and getting hit by a car, which is definitely less cool
Yeah it's the Catherine best ending too. There was one more where they're just a happy couple in hell.
Yeah Neither or "Order" or "chaos" endings are treated as bad. In fact the game makes a point of emphathizing that both choices are entirely valid and it's more what kind of life you desire for yourself. Although the "Order" ending is obviously more "Virtuous" while the "Chaos" ending is more about raw desire, but the game doesn't shame you at all for choosing chaos is that is what you wanted.
What the game punishes you for is if you basically back out at the last second choosing one pathh but trying to go for the partner tied to the other path.
So both the "order" and "chaos" paths have bad endings of their own but the "true chaos" ending was meant to be a "good" ending. Even if you do kind of give up your humanity for it.
@@metazoxan2 so essentially, to get the good endings of the routes, you have to be committed to those routes. Fitting
Damn that's dark
@@metazoxan2 I do like the true neutral ending. My man says nah to both and books a ticket to a space station as he goes on a journey of self discovery
For me, the hardest part about getting Sekiro's "Shura" ending wasn't the boss fight against Isshin Ashina, it was having to kill Emma each time I wanted to restart the fight :(
Fromsoft be really making us kill the waifu ;_;
And it also was not the fight thats so hard but the emotional damage
Even the soundtrack for that fight was sad
What about Issin, he was good I remember drinking Sake with him
I lined it up where I did the final blow with the Mountains in the background and made it my screen saver on my Xbox lol
List idea: 7 Post-Apocalypses That Don't Seem So Bad, Really
I think they already did a list like that.
@@anarky1765 then they could do a commenter edition on that
Time to go to work boys (tm) let's give them some examples!
(Own video game knowledge doesn't go too much further than Mario, Ninja Turtles, Batman, Spider-Man, and Grand Theft Auto)
Uhhh, Web of Shadows again. I mean, still ruling New York with an army and Spider-Man's best girl. What can I say? I like my superheroes with cats
@@subman23lol, fair enough. Then again, it could escalate if he uses the vulturelings to his advantage
wouldn't a Post Apocalypse that don't seem so bad, really need to be not so bad for everyone and not just for spiderman?
The Sonic CD bad ending does have an undeniably badass explosion, but I think it's heavily implied Robotnik escapes by travelling back in time, since after the credits, the Miracle Planet reappears, chain and all. Not only is Robotnik not dead, but used the power of time travel to undo Sonic's awesome improvised shot putting skills. Probably counts as negative cool. Sorry
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Idk imo linking the flame in darksoul has always been the bad ending. Lord Gwyn artificially extended the age of fire by linking the flame so the gods continue to rule. The age of dark is the age of man and so by linking the flame you're basically ensuring humans remain subjugated.
Yeah..
Look at Oolacile and what happened there with the dark and abyss
I think there is no real good ending
@@fabi3790 letting the fire fade frees humanity from hollowing. Gwyn threw the natural world out of balance with the linking of the flames.
@@GenesiisDavid true
I am not denying that linking the fire is a bad Idea
Just that letting darkness over the worl is not that great either
But I would/have always choose the dark ending
@@fabi3790 I chose the dark ending mostly to spite gwyn. It's his fault that we have to fight sif.
@@fabi3790 The dark =/= The Abyss. These are two complete different things. So bringing the Dark Age, doesn't let the Abyss roam free.
Bravely Default's "bad ending" sees you foiling the villains plot before it ever gets to its final phase. Compared to the true ending where you actively fulfill the final phase of the plan despite the game screaming at you so much that the title tells you what's going on.
ikr plus you don't have to fight that annoying final boss.
That's considered a bad ending? I thought it was just an alternative ending.
A sudden Jane appearing at the end of a fade to white doesn't seem so bad.
Pretty sure that means Jane is God.
@The Gaming Meta Well yeah, that's how pre-Jane God for the job anyway. Santa Clause rules.
I feel like the dark lord ending for ds is a good ending. You break the cycle that was never meant to happen, letting nature take its course and helping humans be free from the gods allowing them to develop, hence why its called the age of man, something Gwin tried to prevent by linking the fire over and over, first by himself and later by other chosen undead, unnaturally prolonging his age, all so he could keep his kingdom
Now I remembered the bad ending to Blood Omen in which, instead of sacrificing himself to restore the pillars of Nosgoth, Kain went "You know what no, I'm gonna take over the world instead." That ending was so much better than the good one it actually became the canon ending for the rest of the series.
Wearing a tshirt that says 'Friday' in a video released on a Thursday. Chaos is, indeed, a ladder
Either this video took nearly a week to edit, didn't take as long to edit as was predicted, or Jane needs to do some laundry.
It's Friday for me, so I feel special.
Chaos Queen Jane, bamboozling youtube commentors since 2012
Jane: "Opps, just noticed I'm wearing a Friday shirt while shooting this. I could stop the camera, change, and then just reshoot my parts.... Pfft, it's Friday, who cares."
It’s Friday where I live. Maybe Jane is secretly in Australia? 🤔
Looks like we got the "bad ending" of this video, where Jane puts on the wrong shirt and ends up making a joke about it. I'm sure the "good ending" isn't nearly as funny, though.
At least that stick in Outer Wilds doesn't turn them into a... I don't know... a seal or something!
At least that stick in Outer Wilds works faster than having to hit the person... I don‘t know... a dozen times or so!
That's Outer _Worlds,_ not Outer Wilds. In Outer Wilds death by sunbathing is a regular occurrence. Hell, it even managed to creep up and hit me from behind a few times.
Fun fact, Outer Wilds also has a "bad" ending. One where you ... [Spoiler]
Destroy the fabric of spacetime. This "Kazoo" ending is hilarious.
_Bomph!_
Wrong game
They are getting a TON of mileage out of Ellen just dominating Dark Souls.
I LOVE the ending for Prey 2017 where you just leave the station in Alex's escape pod before you even have the option. It's so freaking good!
Star Wars Knights of the old Republic in the dark side ending Revan reclaims his or her title of Dark Lord of the Sith and has Bastila become their Jedi apprentice in addition to having access to the star forge.
If only Juhani didn’t have to die :(
"The apprentice has learned his final lesson."
No. This is a terrible ending. You kill almost all your companions, how is this better than the good ending?? Go home and rethink your life!
Could never actual go through with this ending, can't even remember the name of the characters since its been years since playing that game but i do remember never being able to go through with having to kill of one of them
@@NerdKing2nd One of them? You butcher almost all of them. It's a horrible ending!
The Dark Souls one makes me think of "times the bad ending was the best choice", as, as far as I know, reigniting the fire kept the world in a slowly rotting limbo and letting the age of darkness come would later bring an age of rebirth, kinda like how in legacy of kain later games revealed choosing to rule as a vampire was the best choice for everyone
Always love seeing Web of Shadows pop up, my good friend Mike was Spidey's voice and it just tickles me.
I’m pretty sure Teddy Roosevelt is already a steam punk teddy Roosevelt.
Imagine if Persona 6 has Vincent show up as the Lord of Hell as a cameo. I’d love seeing Vincent and Catherine just walking through one of the areas
Vincent has had a cameo in Persona already, he's in Persona 3 Portable
@@tiredenby437 but not as the Lord of Hell, that was iirc pre Catherine Vincent
Nice to see you are getting some use of Ellen's Dark Souls footage already. Her suffering wasn't in vain !
Can i say how much i love that they used Ellen's dark souls academy footage for defeating the lord of cinder
Speaking of Dance parties and bad endings, what about the "Bandit Ending" of Mortal Shell. Do a bunch of side quests for a random NPC in the game and rather than continuing the cycle of immortality you just sit around all day drinking and playing some pretty rockin' tunes.
Don't forget about the part where you and your gang of lute playing marauders still party on as the region is conquered by demons
15:44 to 16:17 , we all know exactly who's footage that is! Great job Ellen, as well as mentors Luke, Aoife, Johnny, and Mike!
You probably wont read this because there are 500 more comments around here but i wanted to let all of you know that i used to watch all of your stuff religiously and stopped for a while. I just binged your most recent d and d stream. That along with other videos i rewatched have hit me with nostalgia really hard and i want you all to know that you guys are awesome and i love your work. Thank you for the good times
"Secretly evil" ? I don't know about the rest of you, but I make no secret of being at least morally ambiguous.....
And I can respect that
Morality should always be disambiguous
@@jamesmeppler6375 not when you play videogames, no, there feel free to do whatever
@@TheHUEZOX So. Many. Corpses.
@@justinflemings5756 What corpses? So what that the streets are eerily empty and silent? I definitely didn´t hide all the bodies...
(Dishonored)
timestamps! (to skip around to one you want to see or to avoid spoilers)
0:00 intro
1:03 outer worlds
4:06 spiderman web of shadows
7:33 sekiro
9:52 catherine
12:26 sonic cd
15:01 dark souls
17:19 dying light: the following
20:33 outro
Thanks! I still can't believe they put my suggestion on the list!
Righteous mate!
Out here doin the lord's work 👏🏻
Ah yes, seeing May Sunshine in the Dark Souls footage just give me a strange feeling of nostalgia, like it wasn't recorded just weeks ago.
" 7 bad endings that were cooler than the original."
One involves a whole crew of people we love dying to sun radiation
and the other involves spiderman enslaving new york citizens.
....I thought these were suppose to be cool? I mean the first one's pretty
hot if ya know what I mean!
Hey, Symbiote King Spiderman is a pretty damn good ending. Hot Symbiote Queen Waifu? Check. An army of Symbiote subjects to rule New York and attempt world domination? Check.
I think this is better than swinging off with a Mary Jane who has spent the whole game whining about him wearing the superior suit.
@@toakovika exactly why I thought it was the better ending
Spider-man doesn't even kill anyone. Sure, he practically mind wipes all of New York, but no one died!... Well except Brock, but he was gonna sacrifice himself anyway, it's fine.
I wonder what knots they used to tie down Mike to keep him away from the editing bay when Jane did the Dark Souls segment.
Uncle Ben: "With Great power comes Great responsibility. "
Evil Spidey: " UNLIMITED RESPONSIBILITY!"
There's a comic (I don't know which one, so don't ask) where Spidey gets his hands on an orb that allows him to know everything (he was even able to name all the Spice Girls). He considers keeping it, since he figures he could do more good if he knew everything. But them rejects the idea, saying that "too much power would give him too much responsibility."
@@jdb2002That just reminds me the lessons of Thor and Iron Man saying “Wielding this (the suit or Mjlonir), you are signaling to the universe that you’re ready to accept a higher form of responsibility.”
I like to get attached to the characters and gain their trust then betray them not only ruining my characters relationships but had him kill everyone of his allies who trusted and respected him, then I reload the save file and pretend it was nightmare of what would happen to the player if he fails
I legitimately have a stupidly big crush on Jane. That end of video banter was ridiculously cute.
The dark souls ending is the good one... the one where you replace gwyn is just continuing a cycle of abuse and exploitation designed to subvert destiny.
Dark souls's subversion of themes of light and dark by tying dark to good and light to evil is extremely berserk... and also extremely awesome.
They really aren't reversed, though. Dark is supposed to only be accessible by dredging up horrors in the human psyche, and pro-dark characters tend to be pro-murder characters, besides a witch. Also the darkness tends to be the thing causing corruption. And the dark ending tends to be borne of betrayal, or framed as giving up. And the bad consequences for fire characters tends to be that their best was not enough (though not necessarily for faith characters...who tend to fall via darkness). Really, even if you figure ending the fire cycle and hoping for the best is the best ending, it's definitely not because darkness is good.
@@arthurpendragon309 I mean, it is though. Darkness is just humanity. With the virtues and vices that entails.
Darkness is framed as evil largely by people who aren't exactly reliable... but by contrast the light is ALWAYS a lie. Even the sun of an orlando is just an illusion.
And what we see of darkness is largely relics of those defeated. The real enemy of darksouls. The real evil... its entropy. And Gwynn tries to hold it back by standing on the corpses of civilization instead of allowing the world to pass to the next age... is it fair to call the man being stepped on evil for demanding liberation?
No talk about how "Epic Mickey"'s bad ending is the one where Mickey Mouse is nice to everyone... At least acording to it's sequel.
Catherine and Vincent using the legendary evil antithesis to God named Satan as a FOOTSTOOL is just hilarious. This pure and unfiltered evil which is said to be a parallel to the very being who supposedly created the world and all life being used as a simple piece of furniture is just perfect.
Yeah, the last video had some comments with real “commenter edition” vibes.
In a good way, right?
@@IamaPERSON Yes, I just meant the format is usually quite distinct.
@@majdramadan8404 oh, ok
I went to see if I posted anything, and all I had was a comment bitching about what an Asshole Doug Tennapel is.
The bad ending for this video would've been the final list entry being finished up and Ian Higton appearing to thank us for watching Eurogamer.
18:36 I literally cannot hear that voice actress in anything without immediately going "A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON" lmao
I always loved the bad ending to The Witcher 3: Heart Of Stone, Geralt choosing not to defeat this godlike trickster since, in all fairness, it wasn't his fight, and just having Mirror walk off into the sky whistling was just so much cooler.
The ending in Sekiro where he kills himself in the best ending imo.
It's just so narratively and emotionally beautiful.
Well, provided that there are no proper "good" endings in "Sinking City", awakening the daughter of Cthulhu and unleashing her on the world as in the "worst" ending is still the coolest option.
Kyle crane becomes a night hunter for sure and it is definitely the coolest ending in this whole list
I actually got the Dark Lord ending in Dark Souls by wondering what would happen if I just walked away. 😂
Assault Suits Valken, a mid-90's side-scrolling mecha shooter from Konami for the SNES, had an alternate ending you could set up about halfway through if you weren't careful.
The setup level involves assaulting an enemy space station built into a small asteroid in high Earth orbit. Just as you break into the command center, they activate the station's engines to initiate a Zeon-style colony drop. If you don't destroy the engines in time, you can see the asteroid impact (which briefly whites out the screen) in the background during the next level, but you can still finish the game. If you do, your side still even wins the war: it's just, everything is so broken that there's little point. Your side has taken such a beating by that point that your ship and cute bridge-officer girlfriend don't make it, and the world is irreparably ruined by the asteroid impact, so your character becomes an embittered nihilist wracked by survivor's guilt.
I can't say it's a _cooler_ ending, since your character sees everything as his fault (admittedly, it kind of is, at least in the context of the story being a game), but it's definitely well written, and it was an excellent touch to include it.
I'm pretty sure that Dying Light The Following's bad ending is the canon one since it is already known that the infection wasn't stopped and eventually got to the rest of the world, as is the premise of Dying Light 2.
Either that or somehow even though you blew everything up, something manages to escape and the whole world is screwed regardless.
@@Altoryu I mean it’s kind of heavily implied the group crane works for released the zombie plague so most likely they had more than one sample.
@@mr.j7444 Or that sure
The Catherine ending is technically one of the good endings
I love that ending. Going for the Rin ending now. 😁
add: the weird alt ending you could get early on in Suikoden 4 where you just live out your endless days on an island with your friends. endless coconuts, wood, and bonfires. And you can get this alt ending very early in the game, so BONUS, you dont actually have to play the terrible game that is Suikoden 4
still better than suikoden 3
@@michaelrate7693 you are entitled to your opinion, tho it is wrong. 4 didn't even have the right number of party members. How could they screw up something that simple? 2 and 5 are the best IMO.
I liked doing the bad ending in TW3 blood and wine (even though I did on accident), although it was sad. It felt a bit like "you can't win them all", which I think sort of fits the tone of the Witcher universe
Okay, no Shadow the Hedgehog, but we still have a Sonic game!
Cuz none of the Shadow The Hedgehog bad endings could be cannon, all the endings besides the "True Ending" are referred to as "What if endings" which you have to see what if shadow did this since he suffers from Amnesia, he can do anything, since none of them could happen, they didnt put it in, the Sonic CD bad ending could be made cannon
The fade to white with Jane suddenly appearing saying “well hey, you made it” is what I imagine dying is like
I got the Jane wears a Friday shirt ending
Jane's end-of-the-list-ramblings are just the best.
I wanna make a shoutout to Fable 1. Where the "bad" ending sees the Hero of Oakvale becoming an unstoppable demonic overlord. And in the Lost Chapters variant, you become the immortal vessel for your charming nemesis throughout the game, complete with a sick mask.
Yes! And the best part is, regardless of which ending you get, you get to fight a dragon!
And on top of that, regardless of what you pick, according to rumours in Fable 2, your character eventually snaps and carves "YOUR HEALTH IS LOW" into the Guildmasters face.
4:49 Andy: But also included our other favorite thing about old console spider man things..."
Me: "Black Cat's cleavage"
Andy: "...hilarious quick time event fails"
Me: "Oh right"
What about Fable TLC, after defeating Jack of Blades in the form of a dragon you get to choose whether you destroy his mask which you trapped his soul in or you become the next Jack and wear it.
No Jack takes over your body
@@ddsjgvk yes, but you are still in control of your character as you're still able to play afterwards.
@@Jsgamer117 with the controller yes but who's to say in game Jack is making the movements.
There's also a hidden timer with that part, if you sit and listen to all the dialogue the Mask eventually forces you to wear it.
Theres also an implication (to me at least) that Jack himself was possessed by the mask, so who knows how far back that things corruption goes.
I know I'm late, but watching this on a Friday worked out pretty well for me.
Especially since my work week ends on Thursday nights and I was too tired to fix my router when I got home.
Thanks, Jane.
In the bad ending-well, the only ending- of this video, we get to see Jane's eyebrows. So it all worked in the end.
19:42 she sounds like Boethiah in Skyrim
Good choice with Dark Souls, the "bad ending" is actually the good ending, since the Gods arent tricking you into becoming a Martyr just so they can survive.
Dude, how awesome is it that 'The Mother' is also the voice actress for Meredith Stannard in Dragon Age II?
I honestly think that the "Dark Lord" Ending is the good ending, as humanity was born of the Furtive Pigmy aka the "Dark Soul" and thus the Dark Ending is ending the Age of Gods and Ushering In The Age Of Humanity.
There isn't really a clear answer, which seems fitting. Bear in mind the only people who claim that no, this will totally be a good thing for humanity no really trust us, are the grinning serpents. If those guys told me water was wet, I'd run my hand under a tap just to make sure.
@@paulgibbon5991 I think there's a misinterpretation by the Souls community of the dichotomy of light and dark, fire and abyss, gods and humanity, etc.
I think the fundamental point is one of balance and cycle; neither light nor dark are completely good or completely bad, and the natural, stable cycle of the world is a balance between them, as dark souls 3 so brilliantly displays the results of an unnaturally long age; the world is folding in on itself, death, the curse, plagues, insanity, all ravaging what little remains of life in Lordran. I'm sure a prolonged age of dark would find itself in a similar position. It's also worth noting, however, the influence of third party, unnatural interventions, like Gwyn's curse, for instance. The entire story of Dark Souls begins in a state of relative peace, "absolute disparity", or perfect balance, and only once the Gods threw that balance out did things set on their course to corruption. I think that's why the age of dark is the "good" ending; It's not that the dark is good on it's own, its that it's needed to counteract the light thats currently dragging the world down with it. Sorry for reviving a year old comment btw, lol
@@akalichamp7030 Thinking about it, you could see the moral as being quite Buddhist--unhappiness comes from trying to cling to something that's past its sell-by-date and refusing to accept that nothing lasts forever.
Still don't trust the snakes. 🙂
"ends with a fade to white... and is that a satisfying way to end anything?"
Spec Ops: the Line?
Somehow the alternate ending for persona 5 Royal didn’t make it on here, so.
(Btw spoiler alert)
Here’s my formal suggestion. The third semester ending where you go with maruki’s reality. Whether good or bad, it gives all your characters a better life, which is undeniably cooler since everyone really, really deserves it.
is it a better life if that life is a lie? especially because it all but invalidates all the growth the characters got through their trials. I mean its an undeniably interesting ending, but let's be real, its not really a happy ever after. its just what Maruki believes will make everyone happy, even at the cost of their own free will.
@@jamesherb4384 I feel like someone could make an alternate ending animation with your comment
@@jamesherb4384 to me it’s the bad ending, but it does give all of you and your traumatised friends a break, which is cool to me. Don’t get me wrong though, I like the true ending too
Geneforge 1 and Geneforge 1 - Mutagen. Use the Geneforge to become truly powerful. Sure you become a little unstable, but power and knowledge…
Sweet, new video on bad but good endings.
Indeed!
@@IamaPERSON Oh hey, weird timing. I’m on your suggestion right now.
@@aydinanuar8807 lol
Been so long since I last watched one of your vids. I wonder what it's going to feel like rewatching these after the pandemic, when you're back at your studios and all
Becoming the ruler of Hell had me laughing.
I remember the first ever "bad" ending I got in Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight. Getting a sweet sith lord cape.
you got the dark souls ending reversed. lighting the fire is the bad ending as you irreparably ruin the world and it's natural order. the dark ending you set things back to the way they're supposed to be. the reason the evil serpent is on the good ending's side is because of a very successful propaganda campaign by the gods
Yeah but you really don't piece it together til the third game. It definitely does put the whole series in a different context and that's some brilliant writing.
@@Rodrigo-ei4ht how about the context the ringed city adds where non of it matters as the world is long dead and it’s all an illusion.
@@mr.j7444 Ooo yeah you're right. The world has long been dead and you get the sense that everything isn't right. But do you really understand that linking the fire prolongs the suffering? Either way someone else ends up linking it cuz it's cannon
The reason why sonic doesn’t kill dr. Robotnick is because that’s tails job while he’s high on pcp (listen to starbomb if you don’t understand)
I would blow up that nuke a million times in a row. Nobody turns me into a zombie.
Those smiling blinking worms that now to you in the bad ending are far and away the scariest thing I’ve ever seen in dark souls which is really saying something!!! And the bulldogs jowls uggghhh 🤦♂️ gives me the willies *shiver*
Secretly evil audience? I resent that. I never keep secrets.
I gotta say, it was kinda cool in DF2: Jedi Knight when you choose the bad ending and basically become the new Emperor
Jade Empire has an Open Palm EndIng
Jade Empire has a Closed Fist Ending
Jade Empire has a "bad" ending too
lol 😝
To be fair to Jane's rant at the end, I have about 50 OutsideXbox videos on various playlists, waiting to be watched.
List idea: 7 throwaway side characters with way too much backstory
This is absolutely gorgeous work! It's so precise and crisp, I'm subscribing right away 💜
In dark souls though, kindling the fire is like, the sacrificing yourself for the oppressive and dying status quo ending though, so I'd actually say that dark souls is wrong on this list, since you list the good ending as the cooler one (which it is, but like, I always read it as the good one)
To be fair, Age of Dark is presented as the bad ending. Its only once you get deeper into the lore and series that you learn that the Age of Fire is the bad ending instead.
For me it was always Dishonored, sure in the good ending Emily learns how to be a benevolent leader or whatever, but man was the final mission boring. Bright sunshiny day and all the main villains just get poisoned by Mr. I-can't-even-remember-his-name. Meanwhile in the bad ending you approach this dark stormy island brimming with security that only a master assassin could overcome, systematically kill off the traitors yourself and teach Emily the very important lesson of not trusting anyone in politics.
was the maruki's offer ending brought up? genuinely one of the few times I felt no regret in not facing the final boss.
My boi Akechi would like to know your location.
your boi akechi can, in the words of kanji tatsumi, "get bent" when it comes to this ending.
@@murasaika2776 How about instead of him getting bent, you as he so eloquently put it „do your goddamn job“ and shoot your psychiatrist in the fucking face?
while maruki may have had good intentions, I find it very difficult to accept what he was doing. aside from the fact that him making sumuri belive she was Kasumi was all together unsettling, the whole point of his boss fight is acknowledging that the characters are who they are because of what they have gone through. artifical happiness that someone else decided for me, sounds more like a nightmare than a paradise.
Outer World's reminds me of the Expeditionary Force book where the captain decides they need a big red button because he was wondering aloud if they should jump the ships they captured into a planet and the AI just says "Done"
Jane, I'll have you know I'm not secretly evil, I'm openly neutral.
17:48 I don't know, they're doing some pretty cool things with prosthetics these days. ;)
I always thought the ruling over hell with Catherine ending was the good ending
It is. There's a Good, Bad, and Neutral ending for choosing either Catherine or Katherine. Ruling hell is her Good ending. The bad ending has Catherine turn Vincent down and then he gets hit by a car
I’d like to point out that in Australia, we get the list videos on Fridays.
Jane says tune in every Thursday, but her shirt says Friday. Who is to say what is true?
*DUN DUN DUN*
jane and her shirt are right.
So glad y’all used my comment thanx guys :)
Sekiro's bad ending is indeed interesting, but not the "most" interesting considering you miss so many interesting things. The final fight in the fields is still one of the best moments.
Jane's shirt is 100% correct in my time zone. These videos always come out on Friday in Australia.
So the ps3 Spider-Man game predicted, kind of, the king in black storyline
What's that?
I'm guessing this is an arc involving Spider-Man rebonding with the - or at least a - symbiote and going all evil?
@@IamaPERSON recent storyline in which the god of the symbiotes, which is the source of the god butcher’s weapon, uses an army of symbiotes to try and take over and then eventually destroy the universe
@@Azrael666Azazel so an extreme version of an alien invasion. Sounds cool though