What if Arc browser can’t build reliable AI? | Ep 2
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2024
- There's a lot that's "sexy" about AI today - but we believe the thing that will make or break our chances is something quite boring: reliability.
In Episode 2 of "We Might Not Make It", Hursh (co-founder & CTO of The Browser Company), breaks down why we believe memory & agents will be the key to unlocking reliability in consumer AI products and pulls back the curtain on some of our thinking. It's going to be a big 12 months for The Browser Company, we just hope we make it.
00:18 Reliability is our the industry's biggest risk
1:03 Why does reliability matter?
1:40 Breaking down agents & memory
2:04 Are we overthinking memory?
3:31 How should we train our agents?
5:53 What if we're making the wrong bet?
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One important thing about memory for me is that it shouldn’t over index when I go down a rabbit hole. Yes that one time I researched speakers for 3 hours should be kept in mind but most of the time I don’t care about speakers that much. RUclips does a bad job with this with its recommended feed
Completely agree, know the difference between a short-term information/need and a situation that's made to last (medical student / IT engineer).
Indeed. That one time I watch a funny animal video and now my feed is full of them. I actually get apprehensive about watching a video, that isn't part of my daily interests, in case YT starts flooding my feed with loads of these videos and ignoring my main interests.
I'd like to echo this. I find myself avoiding certain content just because I know it's going to skew what services think I like/am interested in.
Such a good point - I frequently get so frustrated with RUclips with this issue
Look up something on RUclips once and it immediately becomes your entire personality
Please address privacy in an upcoming episode! AI thrives on more and more data (1:35) but The Browser Company has yet to make privacy-related promises to your users. How can users be assured that The Browser Company will not change the Privacy Policy to include collection of user data, data not being stored on the user's device, or "end-to-end" encryption that is still readable by Arc?
I really want to see Arc do well. But privacy comes first, and frankly, most of us switched to Arc because its was a groovy browser before/despite the AI. In fact, if AI costs force Arc to become a paid product, PLEASE provide a free-plan without the AI features. Thanks!
Just my thoughts. Wish you all the best.
This is how a nonprofit (OpenAI) or a public benefit company (Anthropic) should communicate (transparently and clearly), but the Browser Company, which is a for profit company from the beginning, is doing! What an irony!!
Thanks for doing this Browser Company of NY! You rock.
openai is not a nonprofit anymore
@@jrRim it almost is. It only took some investment from Microsoft at a capped profit ROI.
I like this video series and how you make your decisions more transparent with it. However there's one thing missing so far in your decision making: user privacy! How do you make sure that all the data points you're getting and using for making the best AI for us users doesn't end up in profiles of every user in the hands of marketing, advertising and other firms as well as governments or even criminals. The only way to make sure would be to train the AI locally on every users device and keep the data there which has other implications like CPU usage for the user, but also monetization for you, I guess? I'd really like to see those points adressed in one of the next episodes.
This is fantastic feedback, and something we should discuss more in these videos. We take user privacy very seriously (it was one of the reasons we started this company! We felt like Chrome and most browsers' business models didn't support privacy as a core tenet).
Our memory system is designed to run locally, and our sync mechanism is end-to-end encrypted so we can't actually see any of your data even when syncing it.
LLM calls are a bit more tricky. We don't track or keep any data from any AI processing, and have signed contracts with AI API providers that also ensure they have a zero data collection policy for our API calls. This isn't enough for us though- we're looking into ways we can ensure an even higher level of privacy by moving those LLM calls into our own infrastructure so we can ensure privacy and security with absolute certainty.
Eventually though, we really want to lean into local, on-device LLMs that run on your laptop. Local LLMs are also interesting to us because they bring out costs down quite a bit, so we're pretty incentivized to move quickly here. As you mentioned though, local LLMs aren't quite there yet in terms of performance and memory usage. They use a TON of CPU/memory and don't perform that well. We're hoping this will change towards the end of the year and through 2025.
they are defiinitly tracking a lot of what you do inside the browser even without AI
@@RemotHuman We don't! We have a very strict policy of not tracking anything related to what you browse in the browser. It definitely hurts us sometimes when we're trying to make decisions about the product but we feel this is really important.
Surely you have some metrics about usage, just not the content?@@hurshagrawal7990
@@hurshagrawal7990 how can I verify the end-to-end encryption of Arc Sync?
What I want to know about Arc's "memory" is how much weightage it will end up giving to the user's privacy. If it's local, amazing. But if it's telemetry based, that diminishes Arc's appeal for me quite a bit.
yeah same for me
We take privacy incredibly seriously, so the only way this will work is if we can't see your data even if we wanted to. Our memory system is designed to run locally on your computer, and our sync mechanism (which is opt-in) is end-to-end encrypted so we can't see your data even when syncing it.
@@hurshagrawal7990 that's great to know
Source: Trust me bro? @@hurshagrawal7990
@@hurshagrawal7990 Is there a diagram or documentation of how that works somewhere? Any third party audits done of that sync system?
A third concern that I feel should be HIGHLY prioritized is privacy and trust. If you are going to build in depth, highly detailed memory of me and my browsing habits and desires, how can I trust you with all that information? There is sense in which this AI will know more about me than I know about me. It makes me very nervous to put that into just anyone's hands. I already feel very nervous about how much companies like Google and Facebook know about me. How can you make the user feel safe using this tool?
My understanding is that all that stuff will be clientside, and not sent to them at all, but they should do a video dedicated specifically to it
I understand that the company's focus does not want to be on Arc Notes, but is it really that much to upkeep? Having a note-taking solution directly in the browser was a huge selling point for me, because I want everything to live in one place and be organized in the same manner. All you needed to do was give it one cosmetic update so the bullet indentations actually looked right, and it had all of the barebones essentials most people would need :(
Also a calculator
I really don't get why they got rid of it
its cuz of focus :) @@sparkserian
perhaps it was difficult to implement onto the windows build?
A good product is to say no to 1000 things and say yes only to one. They stopped stuff which is not in line with the core mission.
Finally, a fun company that innovates ! Love it
Hello from Uruguay! THANK YOU!!! Arc solved a lot of problems I was having with other browsers! :) You ROCK!
To me, Arc is sort of 'The Everything Browser' and I'm not sure that AI will give me enough of a tangible benefit to surmount the costs of losing notes and easels for example, because they're just so darn useful. Nevertheless, AI is pretty neat as well and I love the work that y'all are doing. I really, truly hope that you survive, or if you don't that you open-source the project for the community to continue developing.
Where have they said they’re unshipping easels? I thought it was just notes
you guys are spot on! reliability is everything with an automated system. I recently tried out all the automated browser agents and MultiOn was the best but I dont see that as the future. Cykel and Induced work-ish but have terrible doom loops. ask it to play a song on RUclips and it takes 3 times the length of your song to start your song (maybe) is rough. So looking forward to what you guys do! because browse for me, is a game changer for me and pinch!!!
I'm so here for the building in public. Love these episodes. Just putting it out there, I would totally pay for Arc. It's very quickly become my favorite browser.
i honestly don’t use the AI features of Arc, even if I had to pay for arc (which i would obviously) i wouldn’t use the AI features, it just isn’t a priority for me. The allure of arc was that it was visually and usably different (tabs on the side) far prettier than any other browser, had a unique spaces mechanic, and had Notes, easels, Screen Capture niceties and most importantly Boosts. AI isn’t something i care about at all.
this guy is chill
my thoughts after watching this:
it's obvious that the team cares about this work and proper knowledge advocacy. that makes me care about you guys. how is your health (mental and emotional)? you're working *and* creating *this quality* content, and it's only going to ramp up as the company grows. how are you instituting sustainability for yourselves, and what does that look like at scale for BCNY?
excited to learn from you guys. thanks for your bold steps, and your hard work.
I love the arc browser interface. The sidebar, pinning, traffic control, and profiles are great. But that is all I want. And the focus on AI or knowing anything about me will overshadow that you’ve made a good browser entirely.
Simple, you can make a good browser, and set yourself apart. The rest will push me right back to open source.
1:07 Why is this so accurate?
Some top tier Hursh facial expressions in this video
This is awesome story telling. TBC is getting things really right in terms of "how do I do marketing in 2024". they are not making ads but they are making great content that tells a story about their product and people come and watch it. Kudos to you guys. Well done!
I hope they make it
we all do
I haven’t seen the video, but I must say that if I love ARC it’s not because of AI features, but because of the amazing ✨organisation power✨ that you built. So don’t stress over AI. Love you guys!
I like how you guys are stating this problem. At least you are aware of the underlying issues, hope your ai approaches will end up well. Though I'm not yet convinced with Arc's ai powered features at this phase, after 3 months of using arc.
I really chose Arc because of its ultimate craft, even in the details, the effort that you all pour into building the interface and the user experience itself is what makes me use it even though it's not available for my entire setup (iPhone, Macbook, iPad and Android).
I must admit, it's a little bit off seeing Arc going full AI - looking from the perspective that I chose Arc because of its keen design, and I imagine that from many others too.
At the same time that it makes total sense: "We Might Not Make It"!
The general *impression* is that almost all of the team is focused on building the AI features, and the other parts of the browser, that should be as much as important, will probably not be getting a slice of this effort. It seems that all of the "craft" poured into the "normal" features of a browser will also slowly fade away, as it will not be a priority in face of the new AI related features and enhancements.
In the other hand, it's been really nice seeing how you're addressing and solving this "AI race"!
By the way, although it really sounds like a rant, it's not an Arc-specific rant.
I myself would be willing to pay to NOT have a single word mentioning "AI" in any of the apps I use, but comparing to what I inescapably see from other companies, you all are killing it!
I love Arc!!
i just got the arc broweser beta version of windows one month ago and i really like the stuff browser company is doing , and im currentlty studying computer science and hope i can help with their journey , love the browser btw
Save page into context would be interesting IMO ... I read an article I might want to reference later so I want to click a button to save it into a folder from which my agent can infer.
Hi incredible Arc team! Could you please keep Arc Notes? Okay keep being awesome 😊
Nice one! Are there any plans to bring these browse for me functions to (window) desktop as well? I love it on my phone but it’s a bit of an awkward workflow sending myself links 😅
Odeon playing! Nice reference to Brazil
Excellent video from a fantastic company. The two areas that you identify are topical and high-leverage. But they will likely require billions of dollars to pursue. I recommend that TBC remain a consumer of AI tech and adapt it to the "web exploration" task. A third cornerstone challenge will likely be cost. Memory in LLMs, for example, isn't cheap. Quite the opposite. How will browser users pay? Will they pay? Regardless, your pivots are exciting, and your videos are top-shelf genre pieces! Good luck. EDIT: As others have identified, privacy is a fourth pillar.
There are a couple of concerns from a user point of view and they all are about user privacy.
1. Can the users' data be kept locally on devices? Can models run locally or deal with the data in a privacy respectful manner?
2. Would it be possible to review which data is stored? Would be cool to manage your data and actions just like you can manage your browser history.
And as soon as Arc is free it needs to earn money somehow. Would it mean that users' data going to be sold/sold already?
I think the data is kept locally on devices; they have addressed point 2 before, I don’t remember the exact video but it was titled something along the lines of “how does arc make money” or something like that
I haven’t used arc in awhile because the password saving stuff wasn’t good. But notes was one of my favorite features.
@@busimo any suggestions?
To integrate seamlessly it would have to be a web-hosted notes solution, and there really aren’t many of those.
That's actually a good point, because I just gave them feedback about exactly this in my last feature request ;D
I love using Arc, do you know when a beta application for Android may come ?
Yeah context is very important for LLMs
Okay, I truly love Arc as a browser, but I genuinely am becoming really discouraged by the AI swing you're taking here. Fantastic features like notes and easels are being deprecated to pay for development of yet another AI thing. I don't doubt that you guys will do a great job with it, but that's what I use perplexity for.
Now that Arc is cross-platform I can actually get use out of My easels in ways that just weren't possible when working with my friends on Windows a few months ago.
Whats the name of the song of the second chapter?
Too Late by SADR!
Even if I go on a horse every day. My butler should let me know if Cars get invented.
so by your understanding of reliability, the renaming downloads should not be in arc?
Honestly you're not wrong... it's not our favorite feature.
@@hurshagrawal7990 PLEASE keep it. I absolutely love it. It's simple, convenient, and just a great example of how elegant you can add AI features to every day experiences.
@@hurshagrawal7990I think it’s great, it’s not perfect but it makes me have to rename downloads less often, which is pretty good
I would really like to have some amount of "hand teaching" Open in the easy-to-use form in the browser, so you can teach it to do some weird things only you need.
Also, I have one big question - you are not planning on leaving the completely ridiculous censure that there is, right?
The ark need to be able to do all the things that normal search can, and having some really pointless censure is really not good.
We don’t use Arc for AI features
Not yet but you will 🤩
+1 I’m curious why they think the right vision and mission to pursue is in AI?!
They’re the browser company, and they have a great browser product which is doing really well and converting many users who try it!
Where in that success do they deduce that these users want an AI experience? I wonder if they’ve conducted any user interviews to gather actual data on what people want…
@@lonebodythe browser as is on its own without those innovation areas just wouldn’t be profitable, they said they want to make money off of charging for enterprise versions but write now they need capital investment and this is how to get it.
And while I too like the browser for its UX more than the specific AI features, I have still found many of them more useful than any other AI features I have tried in a product
@@lonebody They did that. I can guarantee that to you. They want to go privacy-first AI. And just use an LLM like Gemini or GPT-4 in the browser. They want your data to be safe and secure. And AI is going to replace all jobs within the next 10 years, so why shouldn't they embrace it already? AI is the future of literally everything from humanity.
YOU NEED TO BRING BACK ARC NOTES. THAT WAS ONE OF THE FEATURES THAT MADE ARC THE ONLY CHOICE FOR A WEB BROWSER
nha
YES PLEASE BRING THEM BACK
Agreed. Having a note-taking software that can be managed straight with all of the rest of my bookmarked tools was a big selling point for Arc... Now I have to find a new note-taking solution that can be loaded in the web, and there don't seem to be many.
please
Are Easels not a reliable alternative?
just like i hit save password on a new site and the browser auto-prompts me, Arc should ask me save to memory especially if I've repeated a task multiple times a day, week month etc.
mmmm LLMs do not "have conclusions" - they generate more relevant output when give more context via memory.
Don't fall for the trap that LLMs are somehow thinking machines.
They are, though. Claude-3 is partly self-aware. They aren't just algorithms anymore.
@@sirbughunter Redditor spotted.
Please use a State-spaced architecture for your LLM
justice for 2:08 guy 😢
Guys, I hope you all going to make it!
I hope the memory usage is local within Arc on my computer, for speed and privacy. Perhaps being integrated within my account without Arc storing this Google style. _(I think I said this coherently)_
I think the plan is it being local and shared via the sidebar sync which is end to end encrypted
damn that ai, make it eating less resources on tabs and add options with people with disability (e.g. keyboard shortcuts) and it will be best browser on earth, u trying do to something futuristic with pretty old product, add glue and stick ai bullshitty thing with good browser, and now u making whole epic scene out of it, calm down, make good browser, add functions that people actually want, and your part of ai in your time, slowly, with more UI/UX thought, with less noisy and flashy things (e.g. my ai can summarize text or make appointment... yea and all of it can suck dick for 99% people using this browser), that's way, make something that well designed and thoughtful that people will stay with you forever
Wrong approach. AI-first should be every company's motto today. Not even debatable.
umm.. if u read arc release note, they actually do some optimization on performance, bug fixing and UI/UX refinement(for example, latest update give you better UI at media player and cleaner calendar preview). keyboard shortcut are available to customize in setting, im not really like ai stuffs that runs at cloud too. but saying they didnt care about basic stuff. maybe you should read the release notes everytime arc updated.
Easels in Arc for windows: Where can I find?
they dont exist on windows atm
Cuando habrá una traducción de ARCal español y catalan?
hi! When the android app will be released?
To Arc fans watching this video: *You are the one being Browsed.*
"A browser that browses for you" is a cute way of saying, a browser that browses You.
"Arc might not make it if it can't build a sophisticated shadow profile of the person using it"??...
I hope you don't make it.
I don't want my browser to "understand" me at all. I wish there were a browser that was as well designed as Arc but one-time payment, with security in mind.
Memory, in this context, is synonymous with privacy. If there's a blindspot in how you're talking about memory it's answering whether you have the resources to safely manage that amount of user data. Maybe competitors in the space just recognise the responsibility and liability here? We might trust you do not intend to misuse our data but A: what if you get a data breach? B: what if you get bought out? If you see memory as this integral, these are the questions you should be answering at the top of the discussion. Probably the only PR misstep I have seen from TBC is skimming over this so casually.
+1 a million times. Don't just give us the features without guaranteeing it is safe, that is, if it can ever be that. To be honest, I don't think I'd ever trust something like this.
They have said that it’ll be stored locally and shared via the end to end encrypted sidebar sync, but they should really make a video singularly dedicated to answering that
@@corvacopia All of that info is being decoded and sent in what is essentially plain text to **some** provider (which we're not even sure what it is, I was able to get it to say it was Anthropic's once though).
How much do you care about information on your whole browsing profile to some other company who'll feed off of it? My answer is 'too much'.
if i was offered 1M$ to give up arc i would deny the offer
While I do like Arc very much, if you are not gonna use the 1M$ offer, I would appreciate it if you could forward it to me. I could use 1M dollars 😉
I miss Arc Notes!
Arc Notes please
My Arc browser has been freezing for about 3 weeks now when I highlight text, during this time the browser has hung about 50-60 times and I have had to force quit, it's infuriating beyond belief, support is not responding to my tickets about this problem, I will probably have to say goodbye to this browser very soon.
What if Arc officially releases on Windows? (The card tweet was on March 9th 😢)
Arc is already available in preview for Windows. Afaik there are no wait lists anymore for it. Do not expect the full feature set, though. It's pretty stripped down feature-wise compared to the macOS version.
i would be inexplicably, and w/out even exaggerating, eternally grateful if someone can [please] tell me the name of that blinds-lookin font used in this series 🙏🏽 truly, may your best be blessed if you are able solve this question for me ✨
do u guys know about yann lecun's latest opinions? that can help
A lot of your users work in tech companies with policies that restrict the used of unapproved AI software… that’ll kill ya too.
They just addressed this fin their last update
Every company is affected by these rules they have to adhere to. So that's nothing new. They will have to manage it somehow.
I want a browser to provide a good UI and UX that makes it easy for me to browse. I don't need an LLM to help me because it will give me bad results until I give it full context. And even if it had perfect context, I don't want something else browsing for me. It seems like that would be TikTok-ifying the experience.
Arc’s AI features-aside from the browse for me, imo-have all been pretty useful, so I have faith that they’ll keep making good ones; like, a search result may not be accurate but organizing my tabs for me? Shortening insane download titles? Little things that, while they may not be perfect, I can still tweak and it just saves me time and effort
Great video! And awesome to see you understanding how important AI is going to be and already is in literally all industries. So kudos on that! Please ignore the people who say "AI bah bah, I don't like!". They obviously don't see the impact of AI yet.
You could tell them that it's not only gonna be AI-based. Maybe that will please them somehow... But yeah. AI is the way and you guys are right about it. Not even debatable.
Fiddle Leaf is thirsty just like mine
What if AI doesn't matter to build a successful browser company?
It absolutely will
ok but context window is like RAM or short term memory for humans. dont you think it would be good to basically train an own model for everyone so its like it learned all the stuff from you and rememberes it well. it seems a bit overkill to have a separate trained model for everyone as curremt hardware cant run a big model but in the future i guess we'll have the respurces. or maybe we'll have completely different ai architecture by then
I mean presumably the idea is it’s a model that is designed to work with your web browser data that already exists in addition to specifically saved stuff. A big part of the model isn’t individual, but it’s the individual part that really adds to it
Honestly, AI will either be a hit or miss X"D
Really? I wouldn't bet against AI these days....
AI will hit. And not just a bit...
@@uploadsadlibitum6264 I don't mean universally, I was referring to how Arc decides to implement it
The browser that browses for you feels like a tangent to the collaborative browser ideas you'd been breaking ground in. I think building the Al features on top of the larger collaborative framework it seemed you were triangulating before would be a more powerful and better spend of resources. AI agents should augment and amplify the way we act as agents for and with other people in day to day life, not replace human agency. It really feels like you're losing your own plot here with this pivot. You're doing innovative stuff, but i think you had the right framework before. Build browser tools that brings us closer to each other and each other's content rather than adding more machinery between us. The AI agents should live beside us rather than between us (and each other's content. Why even build web sites then? ) Avoid the browser that browses. Get us to a browser that bridges.
This series is actually making me kinda sad. I'm still rooting for y'all, but it sounds like you've been seduced into serving us tech instead of making tech that serves us. And repackaging low hanging generative llm functionality is so uninspring, even if it feels like magic. If Google can do what you're doing, you might be doing the wrong thing.
You know what the big players can't replicate? Relationships between people. Network effects tied to liberatory workflows. Every single thing I've seen of the past few videos, even if you deliver them first they're so low hanging technically that you have no first move advantage. You're just doing cheap R&D for the big players. Do what they can't do because it empowers your users to interact with the web as a social web in ways that will undermine their own business models. AI can fit beautifully within that foundation, but the other way around is gonna burn so much of your time, money, and I suspect, excitement outside of the tech bubble.
Yeah.. this is making me sad.
It's also making me sad that Mozilla seems to be headed along a similar path.
Wow this is very well written. I agree with everything you’ve said! Sad to see them take this pivot and remove functionality that so many users really appreciated.
You can see how big of an impact these decisions are already making by scrolling through the comments.
Well said.
please please PLEASE change it back so that you can edit the app icon, i know that for a lot of people including myself, arc now doesn't look right and fit in their dock setup at all because they're unable to change the way it looks
You guys are fumbling a great product solving non-problems
Wait.... Are you guy foreshadowing a future deal with nothing???? with that font? or am I just imagining things?
I have to be honest. I love your browser, but I just can't trust a large ai model to do work for me. Because of the nature of the way it is trained, I know it will have bias and twist my actions even if that is not what is meant. I really hope you continue to pursue simple tools as well as ai.
I know in the tech world, AI is the main way to get VC funding. But, by already launching so many Arc Max and Arc Search AI features, without 100% reliability, it’s turned off so many users. Just like your analogies, it’s like a calculator that’s sometimes wrong: nobody will trust that calculator *brand* anymore. Think about the impressions you’re giving your users. AI can’t be the primary selling feature if it’s also sometimes totally broken. Iterate, sure, but don’t make it the key focus because normal users can’t keep giving chances. You’re setting us up to give up on AI. Remember that everyone loving Arc Max today is someone who is OK with a calculator that’s sometimes wrong.
2:11 Who at Arc enjoys Ernesto Nazareth?
Still waiting for my Windows invite 😭
What is the song used throughout the video that shit is 🔥!!!!??
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
wen ep3!
Day 01 of asking to move the side bar to the right on windows so that title bar can be hidden.
Does the average person really need AI in their browser?
I kinda get Sabrina Cruz vibes from this channel
she actually co-produced this
If Arc's fail, I'm leaving internet y'all...
dear browser company:
while AI can be a really interesting and useful, i'm afraid that you're kinda falling on the hype, instead of seeing it objectively
AI will take away your job within the next 10-15 years. Depending on which industry you work in. It's not a hype. It's a gate to humanity 2.0.
@@sirbughunter yeah like when tablets where gonna replace desktops, or when crypto was gonna replace money, etc
@@Goldman_90 You're comparing apples to bananas. AI is a real breakthrough for humanity. And it will do unimaginable things soon enough.
if you remove arc easels i will throw a fit
Browser is not real until it works on Android and cross platform. Unless you are working on remote only browser where you don't care about which device is user using. Essentially, cross platform.
Or you maybe hoping and trying to get acquired by Apple.
They hired 1 Android engineer already. It'll take a few more months until Arc will be released for Android in Preview.
Now explain this to me like I'm 5.
And so Daddy bear said to Mommy bear "you mean I don't have to click, I just tell Arc what I like and it finds a site for me"
"That's right", replied Mommy bear
"Mommy", asked junior, "will Arc find things I like to? Even if they are silly things?"
"Especially the silly things", replied Mommy.
"I want a car... made out of ice-cream... with a whale driving it... and the horn should have a rainbow coming out of it... and wherever the rainbow lands, it should create a doggy and every doggy should burp out a cat, and each cat should have roller-skates for feet, and..." Junior blurted, before being cut short.
"No more Arc for you", agreed both Mommy and Daddy 😂😂
I'm really waiting for windows support even registered for invitation 😢
If you have the Mac version I’m pretty sure you can just get the Windows version
@@Raiju. Sadly no
@@labhamjain3915 Actually, you can! Check out the latest release notes of Arc. It shows you how to get the Windows version if you already have the macOS version!
I'm not sure how useful an ai agent might be in a browser, could you share some actual usecases in a future video ? Please don't say shopping or booking flights, no one wants to give these tasks to an agent
Hope the AI crashes and burns. I want a good browser. You're still the best at that, but for how long?
Gonna be honest chief, this video was kind of a snooze
Because you don't see the implications of it. You are naive.
You won’t
I really think y’all have to stop making these “what if we can’t make it?” videos. I _didn’t_ doubt your future or my continued reliance on and championing of your browser, but these new videos, while seeming to show a more vulnerable side and therefore garner support, have, at least for me, only decreased my confidence in your spirit.
First you release in Android, then think of competiting chrome . Not even close to basic browser and have expections to cross world's biggest browser. Useless ai
The Browser Company lost me with the whole “Browsing the web sucks! We’ll do it for you! (And make the web even worse in the process.)”
I _like_ browsing the web - and Arc was the best way to do it. But I guess they don’t want to be that company anymore - so I’ll move on.
Why don't you just wait and see instead of prematurely making assumptions about the product?
0) I was already very hesitant to using a Chromium browser (as I don't want Google to control the Web more than they already do, heh) - but eventually caved because the browser is great. So I was already on the fence, I guess.
1) Because they've already implemented features I find unethical.
2) They've clearly stated what direction they're going in, and that's a direction I disagree with. I feel like the only thing I can do, the only message I can send, is to stop using their products. (But they're not in the business of being a business, so losing customers doesn't really matter, I guess. 😛)
The way you guys are going to Fail is if you spend too much time and money on Design and Marketing instead of just doing the hard work of R&D. At this stage of your company, the only way is the heavyweight-on-engineering-and-lightweight-on-everything-else Elon Musk approach....
You have no idea what you’re talking about 😂
who cares about arc ai come on…
Do you care about LLMs in general?
No please too much of this AI stuff. That’s not why I use Arc.
AI is the future of EVERYTHING. Get used to it now or get left in the dust. Your decision. You can have your human thingies in 10 years. But until then AI needs to be implemented in the best way possible on every platform in the world and in every industry of the world.
I am not excited about this at all..
You need to stop focusing on AI…
They need to tripple down on it. LOL