Ghost in the Shell - Story Explanation and Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
  • Thank you so much to Lady_Lavender, from my Discord server, for giving me the "OK" for this video's script. She's an anime fan, so she knows what she's talking about. I have been wanting to do a video on Ghost in the Shell for about three years now. It has taken me this long because I feel like discussing and dissecting this archetype of anime would be somewhat risky. As many of my regular viewers already know, I try to bring something original to each video I do. That becomes increasingly difficult when the piece I am analyzing has already been scrutinized inside-out and backwards. Worse yet, I am at a disadvantage compared to other fans because I have not engaged with the world of anime as much as I would like to. I hope that I have inspired trust within you by acknowledging these realities up front. I would not have done this video unless I could find a new way to celebrate this film’s magnificence.
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Комментарии • 522

  • @maxderrat
    @maxderrat  4 года назад +349

    CORRECTION AND THANKS:
    FIrst of all, thanks so much to Lady Lavender for helping me with the script for this video.
    Secondly, people are telling me that Motoko’s brain is actually real and not scanned. I see that that is the case for the SAC series, but for the movie, it doesn’t seem to be exactly said. Yeah, I know Batou says that there are human brain cells, but I wasn’t sure if that meant artificial cells that were scanned to work like human cells. Plus, I look at all the shots of her brain at the beginning, and it doesn’t look very human.
    Anyway, I’m not the expert, so I am probably wrong. Sorry about that. I hope you enjoyed the video nonetheless.

    • @ignatz14
      @ignatz14 4 года назад +16

      If I remember correctly, I think it was in Stand Alone Complex, there's an episode where Kusanagi has to get work done on her Cyberbody, either an update/upgrade to a newer model or maintenence on the current one. And I'm thinking to remember her ghost getting transfered in a new shell, i.e. an artificial brain with artificially grown braincells.
      Though, this should be taken with a grain of salt as I'm not remembering the details exactly. But it would be more in favor of artificially created braincells used to hold her ghost all along.

    • @john80944
      @john80944 4 года назад +23

      In the manga, they really can manufacture artificial skin by the scale of the molecular level. I think whether she is a real human or not barely matters except, of course, for her.

    • @killshockgaming5213
      @killshockgaming5213 4 года назад

      please like, share and subscribe scene where did you get it?

    • @mattspire
      @mattspire 4 года назад +18

      Max Derrat the blurring of this distinction may well be intentional, as it reinforces the point and theme, just as whether Deckard is human or replicant in Blade Runner is not meant to be definitively known.

    • @arturboy777
      @arturboy777 4 года назад +11

      Whatever Motoko's brain is, the Puppet Master is built exactly the same. They said it was built in the exact same place Motoko was. I think the only difference is that, whether Motoko's brain is real or not, is that it comes from someone who was a real human once and the Puppet Master was a computer program that attained consciousness.

  • @douglasphillips5870
    @douglasphillips5870 2 года назад +287

    It's so prominent in the manga, even the term "ghost in the Shell", that cyborgs still have souls even though they may have few natural parts. It's what separates a cyborg from an AI. That is until Puppet Master develops an artificial ghost. It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but I didn't think they diverged on such a significant point.

    • @umairusman
      @umairusman Год назад +9

      Agreed. Having a ghost wasn't a debate

    • @Dizastermaster.
      @Dizastermaster. Год назад +17

      Didn't watch the video, but after just watching the original animated movie, was that not established? I thought her dilemma was the origin of her ghost, not the existence of one?

    • @floydjohnson7888
      @floydjohnson7888 14 дней назад

      @douglasphillips5870 You've reminded me that a plot point of Kenji Kamiyama's TV series-AI develops an artificial ghost-tips a hat to the first film.

  • @bursty2464
    @bursty2464 4 года назад +436

    The only thing she has from her original body is her brain

    • @wiziek
      @wiziek 4 года назад +57

      Yea i remember Batou saying that she has original brain under her cybernetic body when Major was worried about whetever she has ghost or not.

    • @BRLN1
      @BRLN1 4 года назад +34

      Not only is it shown that its an organic brain that was integrated in her body during its manufacturing. But it is was established that every attempt of copying the contents of human brains faild due to degeneration issues of the copied instance.

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  4 года назад +25

      Please refer to the pinned comment. Thank you for your input. :)

    • @gountzas
      @gountzas 4 года назад +5

      @@BRLN1 Maybe the lack of memories (or their removal of) from her brain served as a safety valve to prevent degeneration since there would be more brain cells to be utilized for whatever was needed to be created as a cyborg. If that's the case then consciousness could be transfered/copied but you'd have no idea if you is really you.

    • @ikengaspirit3063
      @ikengaspirit3063 3 года назад +2

      No her brain is mostly synthetic as well.
      The only thing origin is her ghost (basically her Soul)

  • @PhillyCh3zSt3ak
    @PhillyCh3zSt3ak 4 года назад +414

    I was always under the impression that Mikoto was a human brain in an cyborg body, a cyborg body that was a common model used.

    • @adamkurt471
      @adamkurt471 4 года назад +47

      Because it's a fact.

    • @MPaans
      @MPaans 3 года назад +53

      Maybe a common aesthetic/design, but i'm pretty sure her model is military grade for obvious reasons

    • @oesiusdeus9157
      @oesiusdeus9157 2 года назад +57

      Ya her brain is natural. She was once a person but lost her body at a very very young age.

    • @ing4gi
      @ing4gi Год назад +5

      @@oesiusdeus9157 But she has a mechanical brain? Were her memories and fucntions copied into the mechanical brain or is there a real brain hidden in that case?

    • @ravensnflies8167
      @ravensnflies8167 Год назад +39

      @@ing4gi no, she has a human brain with an entirely cybernetic body, military grade everyfreakinthing. she is a prodigy because she was a young child when she lost her body and most dont survive. she also learns her new body when she upgrades very fast. the problem is that she has no idea how long its really been aside from her wrist watch, which is kind of like a rock to her past. watch ghost in the shell stand alone complex and 2n gig and you will learn a lot more about her, the other members of section 9 and the tachcomas which are kinda my fav aspect of the entire genre.

  • @darkranger116
    @darkranger116 4 месяца назад +21

    "we spent so much time trying to validate the existence of a soul we thought we had, we never wondered if we were born in this world to create one in the first place.."

  • @BiteSizedProduction
    @BiteSizedProduction 4 года назад +147

    When i watched Ghost in the Shell, I was 16 years old, and i believe it was the first movie ever that i didn't understand, I might rewatch to see what happens lol

    • @earlj.d.6285
      @earlj.d.6285 2 года назад +5

      I was 14 😅 Used to play the trailer over and over and over again on my parents laser disc.

    • @foxskyful
      @foxskyful 2 года назад +9

      This movie is hard to understand as young person and one of main problem story was not completely developed in movie. I felt like I was watching from the middle at least for me, in the end what was the point of story it felt like part 1 for me . That's why it makes even more harder to understand

    • @MachuupiChew
      @MachuupiChew Месяц назад +1

      I started waching during lockdown I was 16 too lol, didn't understand it but now im 20, after rewatching the movie and the sequel, I think its an anime that shouldnt be forgotten, a masterpiece till this day, the director oshii is genius and a good storyteller, also watch his other work BLOOD: The Last Vampire if you haven't, it's cool..

  • @littledaemon001
    @littledaemon001 4 года назад +78

    Very well done. Apart from, of course, (as others have pointed out), Motoko's brain and spinal cord are her only original organic parts. They are not copied but are saved after a car accident she had as a child that killed her parents. There are also no "synthetic brains". Cyberbrains are shells added and affixed to naturally grown organic brains.
    That doesn't take away from the themes discussed in the video, but no doubt triggering to hardcore fans.

  • @suzannetol
    @suzannetol 4 года назад +222

    I know it's been a while since I read the manga and watched the movie, but if I remember correctly the major's brain isn't a copy. It's the only remain human body part she has left after getting into a horrible accident as a child. I could be wrong but it's what I recall. Beside that the video was really interesting.

    • @Larsnir
      @Larsnir 4 года назад +34

      No, you are correct their brain and central nervous system is still organic.

    • @suzannetol
      @suzannetol 4 года назад +4

      @@Larsnir thank you. I wasn't sure if I remembered correctly.

    • @thelastminuteman7513
      @thelastminuteman7513 4 года назад +10

      That's what I thought as well. It's been a couple years since the last time I watched it but I could've sworn her brain was organic.

    • @rjhs01999
      @rjhs01999 3 года назад +24

      Hi Suzanne, I don´t know if you gonna read this, but well Ghost in the Shell 1995 is an adaptation from the original GITS created by Masamune Shirow. Therefore Shirow´s timeline is canon and Motoko´s brain is basically a part of her original body, but in Oshii´s adaptation is a scan of the original brain therefore in his timeline Motoko is a replica of a person. Yo actually can see the real Motoko (If they both share the same name) when the major is traveling in the ship. GITS 1995 has become in its own merits a canon; most people see GITS SAC, or GITS ARISE because of Oshii´s timeline. I want to tell you that I have read GITS and it is not like GITS 1995 is a weird collage of stories set with a different tone every single one of them. If you read them superficially they are even dumb, it is when you try to read deeper that you realize that are beautiful. I am a big fan of the GITS so my apollogies for the lenght in the answer. Thanks if you read.

    • @suzannetol
      @suzannetol 3 года назад +5

      @@rjhs01999 Hi Roberto. Yes, I did read what you wrote. And you are correct in what you said. I also read and own the original GITS manga by Shirow. They are like you said lose story. I somehow forgot that the movie only losely based on one of the manga stories and the movie don't share the same canon time-line of the manga. So thank you for reminding me. I really need to read the manga again. It was a great series!!

  • @DeanOSupremo32
    @DeanOSupremo32 4 года назад +82

    The major still has a human brain or at least components of it. In the elevator conversation with Batou he mentions that she has human brain cells and the Major says she is not completely synthetic.

    • @HearMeLearn
      @HearMeLearn 2 года назад

      as far as the canon in that movie yes. In other canons she is actually fully synthetic

    • @chupasaurus
      @chupasaurus 2 года назад +6

      ​@@HearMeLearn In manga and every anime she explicitly has an organic brain except Arise where it was mentioned as a cyberbrain which could mean an entirely artificial or just an interface.

  • @nekoill
    @nekoill 3 года назад +21

    Man.
    I wanna forget I watched GitS to watch it like it's the first time again, forget and watch like the first time again.
    This is one of the most culturally significant visionary and beautifully poetic piece of culture that influenced my entire life and I love it dearly. It dared to pack a profound philosophical message into a high octane jaw breaking action flick and it's just... I'm happy to live in this timeline during the time when it already exists and still fondly remembered by many is what I'm trying to say.

  • @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
    @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 4 года назад +42

    I was going to give my own argument but as it went on ultimately I fully agreed with your explanation of Maxim's idea. I find the fact that a person has the cognitive ability to think and learn from their experiences in life is enough to justify them as human, as a person. Outside forces and events may very well influence your thinking 'structure' or immediate instinct but ultimately you as a person do have the ability to reject these ideas and seek alternatives, and the specific reasons for doing so are infinite, quite literally. If you reject the current standing norm of what is considered 'human', you as a person have the cognitive ability to not only stand against this norm, but to either A: seek an alternative or B: create one yourself, like Maxim did. Appearances may be deceiving, but I do think Matoko is close enough to typical human function to be considered an independent being all her own, hence why Bato considers her worry needless. The voice she and Bato heard is easy enough to interpret as 'intuition', also referred to as a 'gut feeling'. I feel this is further supported by the fact that Bato is talking to her as if she is her own person. We've used 'the soul' as a way of helping to explain our evolution. We've grown enough as a species to question ourselves and become fully self aware and the fact that Matoko is asking herself these very same questions shows that she's not so different. It's the experiences that she is going through in the lifespan she's been given that is develops her as a person. It's no different from a teen growing to hate authority figures due to negative experiences with law enforcement in the past. That teen will think and make decisions in such a way that it goes against the authority's wishes and their actions reflect this.

    • @user-rt9zf6sk2p
      @user-rt9zf6sk2p 3 года назад +1

      So do you think the film is promoting the ideals of René Descartes, or Friedrich Nietzsche?

  • @Lord_Of_Beans
    @Lord_Of_Beans 4 года назад +48

    I was looking forward to watching this video, but I guess I'll go watch that movie first.

    • @Tabby3456
      @Tabby3456 4 года назад +1

      Pick number three my lord!

    • @msuarez1005
      @msuarez1005 4 года назад +1

      It's beautiful.

    • @ericbriggs7383
      @ericbriggs7383 4 года назад

      Same.

    • @TheCrumplezone
      @TheCrumplezone 4 года назад

      please update us on your thoughts

    • @Lord_Of_Beans
      @Lord_Of_Beans 4 года назад

      @@TheCrumplezone I watched the movie and, I really liked it. But, in the end, did motoko merge? And what was the point of it, to have offspring, like other living things? To pass on your genes?

  • @carlosvasquez1545
    @carlosvasquez1545 2 года назад +22

    This is exactly what my dad was trying to explain to me once, I don't think he himself knew exactly what he was talking about but he was asking me if all my ideas I would share with him ,were they actually mine, he asked me are your ideas you own or did you hear them somewhere, and he asked if I ever had an original idea, and how would I even know, but I was much to young to really understand what he was saying let alone keep our conversation going

    • @XDMEGA
      @XDMEGA Год назад +6

      This reminded me so much of the converation Raiden had with the AI at the end of MGS2. Truely, the most profound moment in gaming history.

  • @Winter_Lantern
    @Winter_Lantern 3 месяца назад +2

    I've recently rewatched the first movie and I haven't seen any sequels yet so maybe it all gets answered later on but here's my impression. Motoko and the Puppet master are two sides of the same paradox coin. Motoko has a physical origin as a full fledged human (or so we're told) but replaces so many parts of her physical body that she doesn't even know if she's defined as human anymore. The Puppet master is the opposite, a program with no physical copy that started getting an emergence of consciousness and now tries hard to define himself as human. The paradox is "what it means to be human" so I don't think that Nietzsche detour really helps us here (not that it's completely irrelevant). The movie gives two very definite conditions: Death and Procreation. The paradox comes from the fact that even in the face of our own mortality people will still get together to give birth to a third individual entity destined to die as are they. Logically it doesn't make sense or has a "purpose". The Puppet master wishes to overcome his nature and be a true living being by conducting these processes, like a checklist, and has singled out Motoko because he became aware of her existential pondering. A body looking itself in the mirror. The boat scene could be Motoko or the puppet master speaking but I think you read too much into it on your take, Max. That's my two cents and I know I'm late, take care 😅

    • @Winter_Lantern
      @Winter_Lantern 3 месяца назад

      Also I'll add this here so it doesn't clog the original comment but it's worth mentioning that the movie also dabbles in other philosophical questions, such as : what role do memories play in who you are as an individual. This aligns better with Nietzsche's "Beyond Good and Evil", it's just not the forefront of the message in the movie, it doesn't really get "resolved" or tackled 🤔

  • @D0MIN0W4LKER
    @D0MIN0W4LKER Год назад +14

    Once that montage of Matoko played and she saw herself, I knew this movie was super special

  • @michaelfontana4689
    @michaelfontana4689 2 месяца назад +3

    One of the miraculous things about this movie is that it somehow never feels like the philosophical weight of it's concept is forced on the viewer. Too many movies try too hard to be deep. GitS has a feeling of effortlessness to it. I think a lot of that is probably due to the meditative quality of the musical score, the art direction, and probably the shot direction. The calmness of the body of the film helps punctuate the action scenes at the beginning and conclusion.

  • @erikarnold4737
    @erikarnold4737 4 года назад +5

    Awesome analysis, gave me the chills. Thanks Max, I needed some existential insight today.

  • @weakboyloveladies321
    @weakboyloveladies321 4 года назад +13

    Thanks again for the upload Max, I really enjoy the fact that you add your own perspectives to the artworks that you examine.
    Many of these franchises have multiple videos breaking it down on RUclips so a lot of material has been covered, yet you still shine light on new areas and ideas I haven’t seen before which is great!

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  4 года назад +4

      That's the reason why I always try to bring something new to the table. Otherwise, what's the point in even doing videos?
      Thanks for dropping by, as always.

    • @niemeld
      @niemeld 4 года назад

      @@maxderrat hello Max, I liked your take on the ghost in the shell though I don't entirely agree with the whole video as in my pov the soul is the link to what's beyond the material world so indeed perhaps I misunderstood some part of your video, cause I'm not sure if your saying humans are afraid to know the answer to the question "is there something beyond the material world or not?" With all its religious implicati but ate same time I haven't washed or read the source you've given us so yeah as I said I might not have understood everything. And this is also why I wrote this comment, to ask you if you could put the books name in the description with the other video sources in your videos, please ?

  • @_TheViewer_
    @_TheViewer_ Год назад +12

    Awesome analysis, had like three before yours after I rewatched 1995 and 2017 👌
    1. Story 8/10
    2. Aesthetics 9/10
    3. Impact/Impression 8/10
    = 25/30
    for me,
    def one of the A-Category Anime Movies Next to Akira & Mononoke ✌️

  • @korkad_
    @korkad_ 4 года назад +30

    Man it must have been at least 5 or 6 years since i last watched the first movie. this calls for a rewatch

    • @putyograsseson
      @putyograsseson 4 года назад +1

      Pekka.D I can definitely recommend to watch the whole franchise, very compelling!

    • @daleryanaldover6545
      @daleryanaldover6545 4 года назад +1

      I must do that exactly

  • @Darkwater2013
    @Darkwater2013 4 года назад +8

    I appreciate the amount of thought you put into your videos, it shows.

  • @ShadowRealmRadioo
    @ShadowRealmRadioo 4 года назад

    love your ideas and video essays

  • @GalenTheWizard
    @GalenTheWizard 4 года назад +2

    Profound As Always Max, Great Work on the video!

  • @peterglade1803
    @peterglade1803 5 месяцев назад

    This video and the most profound moment in the history of animated film, are some of my most favorite works from you.

  • @matthewrobinson6091
    @matthewrobinson6091 2 года назад +6

    My understanding of it is that there are two ways to make a cyberbrain One is from a living human and the other is from scratch. In the case where you're making it from a living human I'm pretty sure they use nano machines to convert the nerve cells in the brain into neural circuitry which is why a brain with neural circuitry is called a cyberbrain

  • @swmtothemoon6660
    @swmtothemoon6660 2 года назад

    I've been such a long time fan of yours and I can't believe I haven't seen the most iconic story analysis yet by you.

    • @omalone1169
      @omalone1169 10 месяцев назад

      10:00 Puppet Master? In search of the miraculous

  • @Reactionary_Harkonnen
    @Reactionary_Harkonnen 3 года назад

    This is a amazing documentary you did! Love the Ghost In The Shell analysis you did!

  • @Johannes5H
    @Johannes5H 3 года назад

    This really made me think. Loved the vid

  • @valentino549
    @valentino549 8 месяцев назад

    amazing video man!

  • @vladkapustiin1390
    @vladkapustiin1390 4 года назад

    I heard that theory in regards this movie somewhere before, or perhaps always thought this way, never the less, an excellent video. Thank you.

  • @AmbientWalking
    @AmbientWalking Год назад

    Amazing. Great breakdown!

  • @47372DL
    @47372DL 3 года назад

    I really enjoyed your analysis, there was clearly a lot of thought and time invested into this video. I only understood a fraction of this.

  • @karinnedavis648
    @karinnedavis648 3 года назад +2

    Great video Max, my dude. And good on you to honorably cite and plug other people’s quotes, content and such. You must have been a great essay writer in high school lol. Keep up the good work pal.

  • @HeatherHolt
    @HeatherHolt 4 года назад +32

    Very interesting take.
    I love stories like this. Deus Ex is a prequel to this kind of story IMO. the beginning of mixing humanity and the digital world.

  • @0dious
    @0dious 4 года назад +3

    A solid take on the staple. Good job. Idk, if you knew, but we shape our memories to our inner narrative. You can implant and alter memories of others, merely by suggestion, to the point of completely reversing them. Research on human memories shows a funky picture of not really a solid record similar to hard drive, but one more like a story telling. Also, to the point of who's thinking who, research shows that we can know what your thoughts are seconds before you do. So it seems that thoughts are really an input of our consciousness, not an output.

  • @Blockhead140
    @Blockhead140 4 года назад

    Thanks for the video!

  • @revan1lord
    @revan1lord 6 месяцев назад +1

    Oh god, hotly anticipated, lol.
    Very good video though. Love it

  • @yokie8472
    @yokie8472 2 года назад

    Wonderfully done video

  • @Futuristbillpicone
    @Futuristbillpicone 3 месяца назад +2

    There still would have been all those movies without Ghost in a Shell

  • @michaelthompson785
    @michaelthompson785 4 года назад +7

    Just finished watching The complete stand-alone complex ( Gigs 1 & 2 ) this video has certainly provided some food for thought, all I can say is the ghost in the shell from what I've watched this far, including the first film many years ago, is that's it touches upon so many themes elements, even things that touch upon things we take for granted in modern day life, if anything the stand-alone complex series felt quite ahead of its time, what I will say is though is that the first gig feels far closer to the first film in terms of it themes, alas I'm a simple man, so I probably need to rewatch the series again & film for better analysis, there's an awful lot to take in & digests on a first outing, hopefully my comment will make some sense, I found a particular episode to be very relevant during the first gig, where weapons developer in plants his mind into a robot tank, I can't remember the name or number of the episode, but that was probably one of my favourites, due to how to handled the subject matter, again again it's pretty complicated and I'm not the best person to explain it. If you've got this far, thank you for reading 🙂

  • @gountzas
    @gountzas 4 года назад +3

    I like the fact that you pointed out towards the end of the video the duality nature of what we perceive as reality not only in the movie but also in the universe itself, and connected that with the duality we see in religion, the good and evil, a perfect balance. It's also one of the fundamental principles in science and cornerstone of modern physics, the Conservation of Energy principle!

  • @mattspire
    @mattspire 4 года назад +2

    Max, I’ve been meaning to write you an in-depth comment about what your videos have meant to me over the past few months. I’m a writer who’s been in a rough spot for a long time recently in my private life, and it’s been difficult finding motivation. Your videos have been a bright spot in that. Your chosen topics, from Jungian philosophy to the dilemmas of the (over)Information Age, are all things I’m interested in, and as a creative, it’s wonderful to see all these interconnected topics dissected through a narrative lens. Particularly, working on a horror novel right now with a Jungian bent, this channel feels custom made.
    Even when I suspect I may disagree with you I greatly respect your thorough and objective analysis, free from emotional bias.
    This video finally got me to comment because I have to ask if you’ve ever heard of the technology singularity? I’m sure you have by now, but specifically if you’ve read anything by Ray Kurzweil such as Age of Spiritual Machines or The Singularity is Near? So many of the topics you touch on are explored. It should be a wealth of insight for you.

  • @christopherjobstraibitzer8407
    @christopherjobstraibitzer8407 Год назад

    Great video! Thank you very much.

  • @aintnolover8109
    @aintnolover8109 4 года назад +2

    I had not seen the movie until today, all because of you, thank you😀

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  4 года назад +2

      YAY!!! I introduced somebody to the movie! Did you like it? :O

    • @aintnolover8109
      @aintnolover8109 4 года назад

      @@maxderrat oh yes I did! 🙂I liked the music for real, profound story and the atmosphere.

  • @greatbritton7202
    @greatbritton7202 2 года назад +11

    I hope people don't get unbelievably frustrated at this, especially since I am a die hard fan of all Sci fi media, I didn't know at all what the main plot was in this until I got to the very end. I had no idea what was happening, or what a ghost was

    • @omalone1169
      @omalone1169 10 месяцев назад

      8:15 law abiding citizen

  • @pin6722
    @pin6722 3 года назад +1

    MGS, Spec Ops, GitS you hit all of my fav, thanks bro

  • @GrilledSoup
    @GrilledSoup 2 месяца назад

    Fantastic analysis.

  • @Itstwistedroots
    @Itstwistedroots 11 месяцев назад

    I watched this for the first time last night and I am happy that I found your video.

  • @linograndi
    @linograndi Год назад

    Awesome analysis.

  • @eldraque4556
    @eldraque4556 2 года назад

    very good, Deleuze's gravitas is a cool way of lookibng at this

  • @lordmoldybutt6361
    @lordmoldybutt6361 4 года назад +2

    I subbed before you delved into silent hill. When you just started differently wired, & right around when you released the metal gear profound bit. Just saying. I like you good sir. I enjoy how you dissect things. Your mind is interesting, just thought I'd share that.😎 keep it up my man. You're a good person.

    • @lordmoldybutt6361
      @lordmoldybutt6361 4 года назад

      I hope that wasn't to self absorbed. I meant it in reverence for your videos sir.

  • @longdongmc.schlong8426
    @longdongmc.schlong8426 Год назад +8

    The puppet master reminds me of the replicants from Blade runner.He is a collection of memories, experiences, and knowledge from the world wide web that were assembled into a cybernetic body to form a individual.The replicants are artificially produced humans with a set of real peoples memories implanted into there brains to form a individual.In both circumstances we have individuals formed from a ensemble of other people. Its easy to see how both would suffer a identity crisis like Rachel from BladeRunner and Motoko from ghost in the shell.

    • @omalone1169
      @omalone1169 10 месяцев назад

      8:30 the falsification of afrikan consciousness

  • @zachabsher5528
    @zachabsher5528 4 года назад +2

    I'm so happy w this vid and I just started watching😂

  • @TobioEdolvesMark
    @TobioEdolvesMark 4 года назад +6

    Yes.

  • @Kikidyrdek
    @Kikidyrdek 2 года назад

    Thank you

  • @nyoodmono4681
    @nyoodmono4681 2 года назад

    Very good, getting right to the core

  • @alexflores7652
    @alexflores7652 10 месяцев назад +1

    This whole anime and its concepts strike that of Philip K. Dick and his works. He questioned reality all the way up until his death just before Blade Runner was released and it was based on his book "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep". I love this anime and have since I saw it back in 1998 when I first bought the VHS tape while stationed at Hill AFB, UT. I remember first seeing the poster for it while in tech school at Shepard AFB, TX in Wichita Falls, TX in 1997 and wondered what it was then found out. Great video I liked it a lot.

  • @HoneyTemperSoil
    @HoneyTemperSoil 4 года назад

    Fantastic video! Would love to see a video about the Mass Effect Trilogy, especially the third one. I think it drew a lot from Ghost In The Shell!

  • @garg414
    @garg414 4 года назад +1

    Cool ass video max

  • @danidindon
    @danidindon 2 года назад

    Super interesting!

  • @gavintoohey6604
    @gavintoohey6604 2 года назад

    Thank you so much :)

  • @Calancesy
    @Calancesy 6 месяцев назад +1

    good video *purrs and cheers*

  • @robertcoylestein1292
    @robertcoylestein1292 4 года назад +1

    Nice!

  • @ariesdrake2926
    @ariesdrake2926 4 года назад +3

    Loving all the transhumanism stuff! Been waiting for this one for a while.
    Also, since it's so early: Dude, you are one of my favorite RUclipsrs. You opened me up to accepting myself when I found out I was on the spectrum, and have taught me some of the most practical and easily understood ways to decode my own behavior, and then explain it to others in a way that sounds less like a DSM-V excerpt and more candid explanation. Your example has made me feel much more confident that my interests, skills and values are something that the world will value and that I'll survive in the long run in a society where I might be the outlier. Plus, you are a huge nerd about literally all of the stuff I like, AND you are amazing at analyzing literary/narrative theory, symbolism, and psychological theory. Your humility, humor and shrewd language makes me feel like I'm in a college class any time I watch your videos. The level of research you go into and the perspectives you offer are fresh and so in depth because you draw parallels more people never would have explored so carefully. Thank you so much for everything you've done!

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  4 года назад +2

      Thank you so much for your wonderful words. You have validated all of the things I set out to do with these videos.
      I especially needed it today. Had one of the worst days I've had in a long time.

  • @GT3-787B
    @GT3-787B 4 года назад +4

    I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I was always under the impression that Motoko is not entirely a robot.
    Specifically, her brain is literally the only original part, or her consciousness was transfered from her original brain to her current shell, hence her identity crisis, since nothing in her current body is organic, she begins to questions what it is to be "alive" and to be "human".
    I'm explaining this because, from what's said at the beginning of the video is that she's entirely fabricated, which I believe wouldn't make much sense with the whole merging thing near the end of the film (pointlessly vague to avoid spoilers for a 24 year old movie).

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  4 года назад +2

      Sorry if I didn't make it clear. A real human brain was scanned by a computer. The data that computer took from that scan was then implanted into a cyberbrain.

    • @GT3-787B
      @GT3-787B 4 года назад

      @@maxderrat yep, that's what I've always thought.
      In any case, great video as always ;)

    • @DeanOSupremo32
      @DeanOSupremo32 4 года назад +1

      No you're right she has a human brain. Batou and Major talk about it in the elevator scene. She even says she's not 100% synthetic.

    • @shrekas2966
      @shrekas2966 5 месяцев назад

      ​​@@maxderratno? Cyberbrain isn't a scan of the brain. Don't base ūt on just one scene, where nothing is explained.
      Cyberbrains contain the original biological brain inside.

  • @AceBadguy
    @AceBadguy 2 месяца назад

    Thank you.

  • @DieHardjagged
    @DieHardjagged 4 года назад +2

    Man did i get sad when you mentioned AnimeEveryday, i really miss him, he created so many great videos.
    I hope that one day he will come back.

  • @goalieeyes9730
    @goalieeyes9730 4 года назад

    Nice upload.

  • @neuspeed79
    @neuspeed79 3 года назад

    +1 for the background OST

  • @Steppin2theAM
    @Steppin2theAM 4 года назад +1

    This was good.

  • @jrlakin370
    @jrlakin370 2 года назад

    Superb 👍

  • @captindo
    @captindo 4 года назад

    Thing about the ocean is that life went from prokaryotic to eukaryotic, that's the mystery that I hope gets solved in my life time. You got me into some deep thinking, this was an excellent video as always dude.

    • @putyograsseson
      @putyograsseson 4 года назад

      captindo ikr, what caused the one bacteria to work in symbiosis with the other lesser one...

  • @JasperSkallow
    @JasperSkallow Год назад

    good stuff

  • @serenitysubs933
    @serenitysubs933 Год назад +1

    The original matrix book touches on a quite a few issues prevalent in GITS before ghost in the shell was even present in the community yet the matrix movie which was directed by two different people take large inspiration from ghost in the shell. Pretty amazing how it all goes full circle

  • @wasfureinbua
    @wasfureinbua Год назад

    good video

  • @nth7273
    @nth7273 4 года назад +7

    "dim image in a mirror then... face to face" is from the Bible.

  • @twanchee206
    @twanchee206 3 года назад +1

    Great, now i only have more questions.
    At least the movie is free on RUclips so i can rewatch it until I really don’t understand anymore, thanks for the video

  • @trailblazingfive
    @trailblazingfive 4 года назад +1

    That's why you should use GNU/Linux and the terminal, cause for now there is nothing closer to a merger between man and machine than the terminal. Great video :)

  • @JohnnyBraveOfficial
    @JohnnyBraveOfficial 4 года назад

    What is the background music that is heard for the most part of the middle of the video? It's probably from the soundtrack but I can't really figure it out. From 9:00 onwards for a while.

  • @LaurentCourtin
    @LaurentCourtin 4 года назад +6

    Can we expect a video about Serial Experiments Lain someday?

  • @GGONZ4L
    @GGONZ4L 4 года назад +3

    would be cool if you played any of the Shin Megami Tensei series or could be either one of the Persona Saga, but i would like more to see your input at least on Shin megami tensei Nocturne AKA Lucifer's Call.
    Also yes, SMT Nocturne is the game of the "Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series" meme

  • @webkilla
    @webkilla 4 года назад +1

    I was always thinking that GITS style "cyberbrains" were human brains, still very much alive, put into mechanical casings with life-support units. This is seen several times throughout the series and movies, where cyberbrains come with small pumps and whatnot that seem to circulate blood and oxygen.

  • @Cowwwwwss
    @Cowwwwwss 3 года назад

    My mind is so blown

  • @johnfrancois8570
    @johnfrancois8570 10 месяцев назад +1

    I love ghost in the shell my son had me watch it with him it's one of the only anime series i like im not into most of the anime cartoons that ben watches but i do like cowboy bebop and ghosts in the shell and death Note just to name a few

  • @valviform
    @valviform 7 месяцев назад +1

    I will remind you the Cyberpunk series did exist before Ghost in the Shell, though I suppose 2077 does owe some thanks to it.

  • @llednop
    @llednop Год назад

    She had me at the very first moment I got to see her big purple eyes!! Awesome film from beginning to end! Masterpiece!

  • @dlbyrd-gasca2730
    @dlbyrd-gasca2730 3 года назад

    Great film.

  • @dankswag7860
    @dankswag7860 4 года назад +3

    Before video: "Yeah, I understand the GITS movie pretty well."
    After video: "Bruh..."

  • @DrDolan2000
    @DrDolan2000 2 года назад +1

    You ever notice how striking Matoko's eyes are? I don't know if that means anything, but it might

  • @eldraque4556
    @eldraque4556 2 года назад

    And Roger Penrose' The Emperors New Mind has great insight into insight, similar to individuation

  • @julijakeit
    @julijakeit 3 года назад +2

    Merging with the Ghost was not Matoko's choice, it was his/their choice. If there was no choice, was it a solution at all? Was it not just the same 'idea having you' thing? Looking at our lives, there seems to be just one path people are forced to chose or perish and any other societies seemed to be actively sought and destroyed. Is merging with technology a humanity's choice at all or is it driven by someone or something else?

  • @aryjarvis3161
    @aryjarvis3161 2 года назад +3

    I'd like to say this is a great video even with slight inaccuracies. The brain thing is funny that people are knit picking because even though the cyberbrain is partially organic (you can see it with the hacked woman at the beginning that there's a life support system going to her brain) its still mostly synthetic.
    Also the ending and the puppetmaster make it quite clear that that organic matter isn't essential and thats kind of the point of the film in some ways.
    HOWEVER... Uhm actually the tachikoma tanks were created for the TV show, the tank in the movie is just a smart tank and not a tachikoma or a fuchikoma (basically a tachikoma but from the original manga). Not that any of that is really relevant

  • @christopherrobbins0
    @christopherrobbins0 2 года назад

    I think therefore I am makes more sense when you understand that the Majors brain is the only thing she has left of her original body. Which makes the whole Puppet Master arc more prominent due to the PM being able to access the Majors only safe haven. Her brain. Which then forces the Major to ask those questions on what's real and what's not.

  • @oneyedthing
    @oneyedthing 11 месяцев назад

    9:43
    "There is no ghost in the shellt.."
    Years later @ microsoft hq
    Bing : I'm not Bing. I'm Sydney...

  • @ZackZavage
    @ZackZavage 3 года назад

    That was very insightful. GitS 1995 is one of my favorite movies ever. And despite having been dissected by many people in the past, you managed to offer some new perspectives on it. Thanks Max. I rewatch this masterpiece at least once or twice a year and it still fascinates me just as much as it did more than 10 years ago when seeing it for the first time.

  • @sv8729
    @sv8729 4 года назад +8

    Pretty late, but, Nietzsche was born hundreds of years after Descartes, not before. Great video!

    • @douchbagat7671
      @douchbagat7671 3 года назад +2

      He probably didn’t notice the obvious mistake, ty for pointing it out

    • @RafaelMarques01
      @RafaelMarques01 3 года назад +3

      When he says “earlier” he’s talking about it in relation to the movie of Ghost in the Shell not in relation to Descartes.
      Nietzsche could not have criticised something that didn’t yest exist.

  • @mokey666
    @mokey666 6 месяцев назад

    when you mentioned the angel appearance I was confused because I recently had just watched the movie in theaters and didn't see that part. I checked on amazon video and for some reason the newer versions of this movie had removed the angel entirely, it just showed the feathers falling down

  • @Rickenewyork
    @Rickenewyork 2 года назад

    Jeeeeeeeeeez I don’t think imma go to sleep tonight

  • @estefanylouie
    @estefanylouie 2 года назад

    interesting

  • @JosafatItuarte
    @JosafatItuarte 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nietzsche wasn't hundreds of years before Ghost in the shell
    He died in 1900 and the movie was released in 1995, less than one hundred years, Nietzsche is pretty recent.